Pokemon

[fading stratus]

zam doesnt even get expanding force yet either so champions will have to give it that too

[pseudo goblet]

Mega Volcarona

Which bug best goes mega

[fading stratus]

volc doesnt really need a mega

[pseudo goblet]

Paras maybe??

Venomoth??

[fading stratus]

honestly

golissopod

and give it a good ability

[pseudo goblet]

Parasect, I meant Parasect

Gen 1 bug only those two left without gimmick

[fading stratus]

scyther is a gen 1 bug tooi

[pseudo goblet]

Didnt miss anybody right

Well Scizor lmao

[fading stratus]

scizor is a gen 2 bug

[pseudo goblet]

Scizor roots back to gen 1 mon

Mega Ninjask

I need a good way to hunt Nincada

[fading stratus]

mega shedinja with sturdy

oh yeah fun fact btw zane

shedinja is the only mon whose bst decreases when evolved

[pseudo goblet]

[tacit sphinx]

I have a funner fact

There is only a single Pokemon that is in a three-stage evolution line and that never changes height

It’s Orbeetle

Blipbug, Dottler and Orbeetle are all 0.4m in the dex

[fading stratus]

Satan

[sonic inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dokibird-huh-rejected-live-gif-3859302371757875364

@polar osprey

[mighty storm]

The anti-candy

[sonic inlet]

The zard population will never recover from this

(They'll just have a 2nd rare candy in hand)

[mighty storm]

Oh no, Whitney's Milktank incoming

[sonic inlet]

Yeah the miltank card we're getting is just rollout

[pseudo goblet]

Should we make Raz do a Gen 2 girl chara ranking tierlist

[mighty storm]

oh yeah they showed it already

iirc

[icy heath]

Is a baby

[sonic inlet]

Water really just stole grass' healing shtick

[pseudo goblet]

Ig Azumarill does become a bunny

[icy heath]

But it a normal mon

[sonic inlet]

Irida azurill and milotic

Hey it does become a water eventually

[icy heath]

[fading stratus]

azu is just a big fat egg

[icy heath]

Maybe they were like "fairy can have healing too"

[pseudo goblet]

Wait I said the wrong name

[mighty storm]

getting a game in before new set

got the tank and illima 😄

[sonic inlet]

The gold card is mantyke according to Serebii lmao

[tacit sphinx]

W-what do you mean by this

[frosty ledge]

mono miltank looking more legit by the moment 👀

[sonic inlet]

Jumpluff and poliwrath ex

Bro can they make my girl not dogshit for once

[frosty ledge]

??? am I missing something or 50% chance of a mutual kill not cracked as fuck

[icy heath]

So pwwtty

[sonic inlet]

I mean, stage 1

[frosty ledge]

do we have the base form, also honestly some stage 1 pokemon are nice as hell

60 is a solid clock too

[sonic inlet]

Ig it's better than typhlosion xatu, but idk if this is that good

[pseudo goblet]

Rank tierlist of gen 2 characters

[tacit sphinx]

I hate you all. However.
S: Jasmine, Whitney, Karen, Clair, Skier
A: Janine, Teacher, Kimono Girl, Beauty, Rocket Executive
B: Cooltrainer, Rocket Grunt, Swimmer
C: Medium, Pokefan
Children: Kris, Lass, Picnicker, Twins

[frosty ledge]

I feel like this dumps on darktina cause you can randomly just get 2 points idk

[tacit sphinx]

Unordered within tiers

[sonic inlet]

Yeah I meant more like, evolve into cursola just to try to have her die

[pseudo goblet]

Theres a chara name Skier??

Like Sky-er?

[icy heath]

Sky*er

[mighty storm]

UM
Whitney is also a child

[pseudo goblet]

Or snow skiing

[tacit sphinx]

Isn’t she 20???

[mighty storm]

She's like 16

[tacit sphinx]

Is this some Masters bullshit I missed

[pseudo goblet]

That is, random

Dont look at me

[sonic inlet]

Morty doing his best spyral drone impression

[mighty storm]

Wait apparently she is 20 in the manga?

[frosty ledge]

huh, fatesealing

[pseudo goblet]

Tf

[sonic inlet]

Suicune lost its gold privileges to a baby

[frosty ledge]

that's wild lol

[mighty storm]

this is hilarious

[frosty ledge]

kinda sad this can't evolve into mantine cause that's one of my more favorite water pokemon

[pseudo goblet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_n2pVxC7IJI?si=-xkuWvMAkGYh9cU0

[sonic inlet]

Wait jumpluff is colorless

[pseudo goblet]

Raz prob likes this outfit

I dont have it I think

[mighty storm]

stab and retreat into a colorless wall lmao

[tacit sphinx]

Zane why do you assume I’m horny

[pseudo goblet]

Well do you like it or not

[icy heath]

The S ranking is for how she beats your ass in the battle

[icy heath]

Politoed praising the lord Arceus

[tacit sphinx]

Is it me or does Pocket have like, more explicit theming about evos and specific mons

That’s just been my immediate impression I guess

[mighty storm]

your not running water/fighting hybrid

[tacit sphinx]

Given this Politoed and the Whitney card

[tacit sphinx]

Apply now

[pseudo goblet]

^

[frosty ledge]

trying to think of the best application for this card

[mighty storm]

it lets the eeveelutions use the 20 flip eevee

[pseudo goblet]

@tacit sphinx I forgot they did Jasmine’s same time as Whitney

[sonic inlet]

Donphan ex apparently

Gets to use flail

But the old phanpy is good at beating up babies

[pseudo goblet]

Again, these Christmas units keeps on escaping from me 💀

I like white okay

Anyways, should I pull the new packs or continue Sylveon hunting??

[sonic inlet]

Oh water's really eating good huh

[mighty storm]

Water is to pocket, what Albaz is to yugioh

[sonic inlet]

Wdym this is the set where they finally made good water cards

[mighty storm]

In that we will always get a lot of support for it

[icy heath]

(But still fail to win tournaments)

[frosty ledge]

but reddit told me they couldn't print good water cards because of misty

[icy heath]

Ban misty

[frosty ledge]

tbh I could see that or just find a friend with leafeon/flareon

[icy heath]

https://tenor.com/view/flareon-gif-25143610

[pseudo goblet]

My mindset still stuck back with Starmie EX and Lapras EX, how good is the current meta

In comparison

[sonic inlet]

Uh

[icy heath]

FLA RE ON

[mighty storm]

fire puppy

[sonic inlet]

Water is just non existent

Last good water deck was gyarados ex, but that deck is super slow nowadays and manaphy is what mantyke should have been

[mighty storm]

Watch I pull the crown baby instead of suicune

[sonic inlet]

Or the other way around lol

[sonic inlet]

Tbf, I wouldn’t mind that

[frosty ledge]

do you count giratina greninja

[sonic inlet]

Mantyke is broken

[sonic inlet]

Eh... not rly

[mighty storm]

pack time

its out

[frosty ledge]

full set

[mighty storm]

BABY

NO WAY

[sonic inlet]

Oh wait altaria is 2 colorless too

[mighty storm]

3 packs in

[frosty ledge]

2 colorless but needs 2 different energy to get its best attack

[mighty storm]

well, thats the playset of suicune

[frosty ledge]

nice lol

[pseudo goblet]

Is the Yamp cleaning or messing

[mighty storm]

that attack name

[frosty ledge]

I think messing

[mighty storm]

also got my whitney playset, regular art

[frosty ledge]

this immersive is so nice

[mighty storm]

entei!

[sonic inlet]

Milotic playset so far

[mighty storm]

boltund is 1 lightning for 70 once damaged (otherwise costs 3, LCC)

[pseudo goblet]

Btw, they really add Yamper because of anime huh

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anipoke-suicune-yamper-pokemon-anime-gif-25475037

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anipoke-suicune-love-you-love-gif-25475040

[icy heath]

Goodest of boys

[mighty storm]

my last (21st) pack got something

[icy heath]

Shiny!!

[mighty storm]

third suicune

[icy heath]

Yamper and Suicune

[mighty storm]

Colorless Drud

[sonic inlet]

30 pulls and not a single ex

Welp

[mighty storm]

and the bad counter

[sonic inlet]

And only 1 mantyke too

[mighty storm]

only pulled one latios

and no mantykes

(Manga says she is 20 apparently)

[frosty ledge]

1 solo battle in and shuckle jumpluff already seems annoying lol

[mighty storm]

I feel bad for this person

[icy heath]

You can get duplicates in pocket packs??

[mighty storm]

yep

[mighty storm]

SHINY CLODSIRE IN SET?!

and SHINY PYUKUMUKU?!

[frosty ledge]

one of these days they'll put a meta relevant ex as a shiny

[pseudo goblet]

Do normal shiny hunting

[icy heath]

Old Pyukumuku yells at cloud

komi the reluctant

[mighty storm]

Pray for the infernape ex comeback

[sonic inlet]

Yippie

Actually, probably should play 1 sylv otherwise this becomes bricky as shit

[frosty ledge]

oh yeah did everyone get their ranked rewards

about to do a 10 pull after finishing a few more solo matches

[ashen barn]

Do I get a tyrunt in the team?
I don't have a box.
Dragon monolocke.
Dracovish
Garchomp
Salamence
Kommo O
Drampa
Turtonator

I don't think I do

I do however get a skrelp that is immediately evolving

Drampa, you're barely a factor in the squad

Modest stats for a dragon but it's a fairy neutrality and a eq bait

[fading stratus]

did they change normal to fairy resistant

[swift jasper]

ok fuck my undiagnosed dyslexia

fairy restaurant

[outer eagle]

Normal people don't believe in fairies so yes

[fading stratus]

1 and a half hour for mega incineroar trust

[outer eagle]

Hard to imagine a potential Mega Incineroar being a justifiable slot over regular Incineroar after taking up your Mega choice

Support Megas are more likely to see use in Singles i'd say

[fading stratus]

(mega incin is a joke what they teased isnt actually mega incin)

[warm sky]

Again, go with my ideas

[fading stratus]

support megas are a spectrum

like mega gengar is realistically a support mega too

[warm sky]

True

Tbh I do think I was cooking with the ability that increases damage based on lowered stats

[fading stratus]

realistically mega kang was a support mon too

post power up punch removal

people played fucking bite to flinch people

[outer eagle]

Any support mega that was good in vgc was also broken in Singles tbf

[fading stratus]

it also ran helping hand

[outer eagle]

Mega Gengar was like the best Ubers Mega after Mega Ray was banned
And Mega Kang was also running the rounds in OU

[fading stratus]

the best pure offensive mega in doubles was probably metagross

even ray used stuff like icy wind

[outer eagle]

Meanwhile Mega Sableye was banned to Ubers in gen 6 so yeah

[fading stratus]

sableeye was like maybe used

Idt I ever faced sableye

or atleast I dont remember

been like 6 years

looking at mega list

scrappy is immune to intimidate now

so I can see lopunny be decent

its also technically a mega kang buff too

[outer eagle]

"technically"\

[fading stratus]

well regular kang has scrappy

garde also gets expanding force

[outer eagle]

Hyper Voice Pixelate + Expanding Force

[fading stratus]

it also gets trick room

even if you cant 0IV base 100 is decent for TR

[tacit sphinx]

flat

[fading stratus]

[tacit sphinx]

You know what really annoys me

Why can’t I feed my own mons

[fading stratus]

because they're already full of your affection

[outer eagle]

[ashen barn]

Only when I'm doing a dragon monolocke, people

[fading stratus]

bad mon

couldnt even win worlds

[ashen barn]

You're right, 4x weak to dark

Great, rock gym and I have half of my team weak to rock or ground

Still lead with mence to set rain because fuck permasand, tank a burn, and now I vish

Nomnoms time

[warm sky]

Vid soon

[ashen barn]

God I hate this

[fading stratus]

2 mins

https://youtu.be/RYCOc3SiU7A?si=eJJHwuqadybZLx7N

[ashen barn]

Luckiest froslass ever

2 shadow ball, 2 drops, then 2 cursed body activations off sash

I lost so much tempo trying to dance around shadow ball, blizzard, and destiny bond

[tacit sphinx]

So Sea’s Legend gives you Manaphy I assume

No quest bubbles though

Like

Where do I go

[tacit sphinx]

That doesn’t help

[sonic inlet]

Bro just put on gold accessories

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/agree-yeah-thinking-reflecting-hmm-gif-22653261

[fading stratus]

behold mega hawlucha

[pseudo goblet]

That is, fine ig

[sonic inlet]

Doesn't make me like hawlucha that much more so... eh

[pseudo goblet]

10 years really dulled out GF creative thinking huh

[fading stratus]

I think mega looks worse than regular tbh

I didnt realise mega hawlucha has that mega dong

or whatever that is

[pseudo goblet]

Wow my tumor comment on the mega is kinda pretty true

Besides the plant ig, it just the same creature with added limb/body part

[warm sky]

It's a champion belt???

[pseudo goblet]

Actually looks like a martial art 🥋 belt now that Yami said it

[fading stratus]

man's packed

[pseudo goblet]

Do not say wrestle champ belt, we found a way to justifaiz the crotch feather, leave it at that

[fading stratus]

my least fav thing is the eyes

they look so......lifeless

[pseudo goblet]

Hah, list of Ash’s possible mega increased, at least I got it

Still fucking need Bellsprouts…

[fading stratus]

do you have garde and indeedee again

[pseudo goblet]

Yess

No butler yet tho

[fading stratus]

butler?

gallade?

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-indeedee-gif-27380412

[fading stratus]

oh male

[pseudo goblet]

Hmm, this and Sableye, which one wins in design

[tacit sphinx]

A friend told me how to get Manaphy

I love hiding relevant sidequest information in a different game

[pseudo goblet]

Yup

[pseudo goblet]

Also, so the game really doesnt tell you how huh

[golden lance]

The fit goes crazy

[pseudo goblet]

Guy still looks short, it really is sableye treatment

[fading stratus]

short king mega with mega dong
couldnt have been better

[tacit sphinx]

Why is this a Touhou

[ashen barn]

It's good

[ashen barn]

No unburden stuff tho

Which has historically been lucha's calling card

[fading stratus]

they'll probably compensate for unburden

Before Mega Evolving, Hawlucha would sometimes let its guard down as it became caught up in parading its flashy moves, but with newfound confidence in its own defensive capabilities, it can now show off again and again to both its opponent and its Trainer. It lifts both hands and spreads its wings, constantly putting its beauty and tough pectoral muscles on full display.

looks like they bulked it out or sth

It uses its muscles, bulked up by Mega Evolution, to take hit after hit from opponents’ moves and flex its own strength. After luring its opponent into attacking, it retaliates to make them flinch before diving at them using its signature move, Flying Press, to aim for victory.

[ashen barn]

Ok so fluff

Flying press is awful

[fading stratus]

it could have fluffy + scrappy as an ability

that would be pog

[ashen barn]

Jesus Christ

It's already tough normally

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/disguise-hawlucha-pokemon-wrestler-gif-25733623

[ashen barn]

?!

How bulky is this Torterra

This was a LO poison jab from chomp

[pseudo goblet]

Ig the white eye is like, western heroes

https://tenor.com/view/nightwing-crossarms-gif-7833816

Best robin btw

[fading stratus]

dick is fine

i think everyone likes nightwing

which is fair ig

[ashen barn]

Normal as last gym

[fading stratus]

Jason is like edgier version of dick

[ashen barn]

Oh boy

Kommo O's time to shine

[pseudo goblet]

Totally not in it for his ass

[ashen barn]

Norman is bringing every piece of anti-dragon he can
Can't stop body press tho

Damageless sweep

[tacit sphinx]

Got it

Three Phiones and Manaphy

[pseudo goblet]

Jason is second best

Tim can be overrated some time

Not the biggest Damian hater but, brat

[fading stratus]

tim is also okay

[sonic inlet]

Oh nice I got a suicune already

Just another one and I can go save again

[pseudo goblet]

I still wonder If I can use the Manaphy for Shiny Phione

[tacit sphinx]

You can

Phione isn’t shiny locked

[pseudo goblet]

Problem, what current game can breed Manaphy

Certainly not PLA

The most obvious I would guess to be BDSP

Man I need to hunt Arceus…

[mighty storm]

pretty good looking mega

[ashen barn]

Haaaa

Scale shot accuracy ruining a sweep

90%? Miss against LO hoopa and thankfully survive on 10hp

[warm sky]

I mean he canonically has the best ass in DC

[pseudo goblet]

That is the joke yeah

[fading stratus]

I've never ever noticed asses

especially of male chars

[warm sky]

It's just a long running joke.

Remember Barbara realized he faked his death in the new 52 because she recognized his ass

[pseudo goblet]

Why am I not surprise

[ashen barn]

Ok this AI is beyond annoying

Got 4 protect in a row

And scald burns all over

Can't even run from the legendary dog

[outer eagle]

Cool Mega for once

Nice

[ashen barn]

Good lord a crobat

OF COURSE IT DOESN'T KILL

Why would scale shot ever kill with 3 hits

Why would it ever do 3 hits

Took a needless hit to the face

Nihilego with hp ice and sash. Wonderful

AND ROCKY HELMET AMOONGUUS

So chomp is half hp

And I lost mence

Losing mence is awful

[mighty storm]

https://youtu.be/Xt4ccSMw870

[ashen barn]

Ok wtf is going on with everything being flying

[mighty storm]

Hawlucha is flying/fighting

[ashen barn]

Oh god pult

Lost vish and the run

[placid junco]

THANK GOD IT WASNT MEGA MACHAMP

[ashen barn]

Shit's banded and bypasses everything

Man, dying to the last E4

[swift jasper]

why is the game 15 fps

[ashen barn]

After trying for the entire run to get a pult

[vagrant steppe]

Why was that trailer in engine lol. Ran like shit the whole time

[swift jasper]

yeah this is an anti trailer

[ashen barn]

Gg, it's a hoopa unbound with LO psychic

[vagrant steppe]

I really wanna like Legends ZA lol but all the trailers show it running like shit

Which is crazy when Time Stranger comes out the same month and is looking crazy good

[placid junco]

I’m holding off until I get a switch 2 to get ZA

[vagrant steppe]

I've got a switch 2, so I'm hoping the footage is bad because it's switch 1?

But I dunno if they ever said what these are recorded on

[pseudo goblet]

dw Summer Mug is commenting their game

[placid junco]

I’d hope/assume any poorly running footage is the base switch version

[mighty storm]

OH 😅 mb

[pseudo goblet]

Calling it rn, Mega Pangoro

[tacit sphinx]

wha dis

[fading stratus]

machamp doesnt have a mega either

[pseudo goblet]

Mega Hawlucha is growing on me btw

[fading stratus]

cant grow more than 3'3 sadly

[placid junco]

GOOD

[sonic inlet]

It just got a dynamax

Get in the back of the line

[fading stratus]

I mean

blastoise has a mega and a gmax

[placid junco]

It’s also a Gen 1 mon so it needs to go even further back in the line

[fading stratus]

gengar also has a mega and dynamax and its not even a starter

[placid junco]

^

[sonic inlet]

Those two got a mega before the dynamax tbf

With a good couple of years in between

[placid junco]

Victreebel is one of the few kanto mons who deserved a mega imo

[pseudo goblet]

do not make Mega Seaking unless its cool

[placid junco]

I’ll be honest seaking probably deserves one too but I’ll be fine with only 2 new Gen 1 megas

[sonic inlet]

If that other mega list was correct, then... eh, there's only a few megas I care about knowing how they look like

And I don't like any of the kanto ones

Though I'm more a johto guy

[pseudo goblet]

actually, no fuck Mega Seaking, do Seaking evo first, THEN Mega whatever that is

Mega of second stage mon=mon likely really is stuck like that and needs Mega all times

[placid junco]

Two new kanto mega evos is enough

[sonic inlet]

[pseudo goblet]

mmmmmm, Ig thats it for Hawlucha

[placid junco]

I know game freak always disappoints me by being busy with a mouthful of kanto

[sonic inlet]

Hawlucha never felt like it was going to evolve anyway

[placid junco]

Mhm

It always felt like a fully evolved mon

[pseudo goblet]

open options

[warm sky]

Inb4 Hawlucha gets like an ability that's basically just surge surfer or w/e Raichu's ability is but for all terrains

I mean that's the only reason people use it anyway. Seed + terrain

[placid junco]

Yeah because unburden does nothing for megas

[fading stratus]

surge surfer + scrappy

[warm sky]

Actually tbh, buff A-Raichu to make surge surfer work for all terrains

[fading stratus]

for all terrains

[pseudo goblet]

what unburden do again

[sonic inlet]

Doubles speed

After consuming an item

[warm sky]

Consume item, double speed until you switch out

[pseudo goblet]

??? switch out

[warm sky]

Yeah

[pseudo goblet]

oh 'Until'

[warm sky]

Yes

[fading stratus]

boosts dont remain after you switch out that much was probs obvious

[pseudo goblet]

fuck, you might be right about me with dylexia or whatever

Not saying I expected myself not having it

[ashen barn]

Emerald Rogue

[normal cave]

Mega hawlucha looks exactly as I'd hoped

[polar osprey]

buzzwole stocks through the roof

it already has the best darktina mu in the game and this mauls the mus its weak against

[fading stratus]

didja play

[normal cave]

Nope, but I can play today

Yesterday was busy all day

It was a fun busy

Just draining and busy

[normal cave]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2430453942

Sneasler op

[fading stratus]

coaching goated

their sneasler being slow is weird

they probably speed tied

honestly your incin is really funny against their team

because it has taunt to stop trick room

[sand forge]

Luv Mega Hawlucha

[normal cave]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2430470706-oqer90pqd8i2otqnvejg9mq9yic6mjopw

Lost the speed tie on Sneasler but their Sneasler was meme

Still getting my ass kicked, but it's fine

Need to shake the rust off

[fading stratus]

sick ass sneasler set

but if you play fling I'd always recommend razor claw

[hasty anchor]

"Get too close to the Hawk, and you might get RAWKED!"

[fading stratus]

get too close to the Hawk to uhh get RAWKED

[fading stratus]

its fine as long as you're learning tbh

[mighty storm]

just got this in wonder pick

from pack, eww

[normal cave]

Til summer hates stunfisk

[warm sky]

But that's the only Pokémon subreddit worth visiting

[mighty storm]

hate is a strong word, the art here does not do stunfisk justice.

[young river]

Gotta love it when two of your obsessions collab

[mighty storm]

It looks like someone shook them awake with morning sunlight

[hasty anchor]

They just picked a bad spot to just lay down on

[mighty storm]

https://x.com/CardnlH/status/1961062017726292098

CardnlH (@CardnlH)

Shiny Mega Hawlucha Concept! #PokemonLegendsZA

X · Aug 28, 2025, 1:43 PM

I hope the shiny looks like this

[icy heath]

@pseudo goblet

[warm sky]

got it, Flareon doesn't matter

[icy heath]

Nooooooo

Flareo

@warm sky corrected it

[frosty ledge]

I think it's pretty cool that they gave us fire after being inspired by flareon

[warm sky]

Didn't even bother removing the old text

[normal cave]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2430638238 won through 3 turns of freeze. Amogus just decided to take a snow day off

@fading stratus AV Hamurott is so bulky

[obsidian juniper]

||https://vxtwitter.com/MoxieBoosted/status/1961077268928696675||

Marquitos (@MoxieBoosted)

"How was hawlucha getting packed up with a type advantage?"
Its called selling bro.

QRT: Pokemon
Can the bond between Hawlucha and its Trainer be enough to take down the formidable Machamp? One thing is for sure—when these two strong Fighting-type Pokémon enter the ring, fists will fly! 🤜💥🤛

#PokemonLegendsZA https://t.co/LntRyhMwh8

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 28, 2025, 2:43 PM

[frosty ledge]

second suicune locked and loaded

[fading stratus]

i mean yeah thats the point of av

[pseudo goblet]

@fading stratus they found me

There’s probably some prior notice I didnt thought much on

[fading stratus]

looks like TCG

so not really your concern

idt the VG event has been announced yet tho

[pseudo goblet]

Still lol

[fading stratus]

they probably have your email registered

as a past participant

[pseudo goblet]

Pokemon senpai noticed me

[fading stratus]

big daddy pikachu

[fading stratus]

I had forgotten I had first tried with myself before asking you to register

[pseudo goblet]

Bolt joins tcg

[fading stratus]

no

it was just I tried first before directing you for the vg one

cant send you blind

[lilac fiber]

I forget, will ZA have abilities or no?

[fading stratus]

no

[pseudo goblet]

No parental bond

[lilac fiber]

Damn, gonna have to wait till next gen prob to see what the Megas get

Cause some moms def need a new ability

[pseudo goblet]

Mostly cause, they would have had to remake how every single ability work under ZA’s battle style

[lilac fiber]

Yeah, fair

Just wanted to make sure though

[fading stratus]

champions

oops ping

:p

[lilac fiber]

True, ping is fine

Hopefully champions does have the megas at some point

[fading stratus]

but yeah I think champions will likely have most of new megas

since dnite is confirmed

for next worlds too

[lilac fiber]

Oh he is?

[pseudo goblet]

Or not, I think Hisuian forms had their ability shown before getting to SV

Tho I could be wrong here

[lilac fiber]

That’s cool

[fading stratus]

yeah

they showed dnite mega trailer for next worlds

[lilac fiber]

I think they were but not sure

So is champions gonna be like, the new competitive system?

[fading stratus]

yeah pretty much

[lilac fiber]

And if so, will all gimmicks be legal or will g-max still be banned?

[fading stratus]

leek say that gen 10 will not have competitive battling iirc

so it'll be on champions

[lilac fiber]

Ah, well at least champions makes getting into competitive easier since you don’t have to grind for stats and Ivs

[pseudo goblet]

Ig Champion confirms we getting new mega’s ability early

[lilac fiber]

If I’m not mistaken

[fading stratus]

IVs are deleted

[lilac fiber]

Oh

[fading stratus]

from what we've seen

[lilac fiber]

Weird

[pseudo goblet]

[lilac fiber]

Still, seeing a format with all 4 gimmicks legal seems sick

[fading stratus]

but you can modify EVs and natures and moves with ingame currency

[lilac fiber]

Ah, so likes showdown

[mighty storm]

Champion's comp season 1 is going to be only megas by the looks of things

but we dont know much about legality outside of that

[fading stratus]

they probably will separate gimmicks based on regulations

2-3 month of each format

[lilac fiber]

Probably, or rotate them out

[fading stratus]

like it is rn

[mighty storm]

Likely a rotation system yeah

[lilac fiber]

Yeah, but it would be cool to see an all gimmick format every now and then

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-journeys-mega-evolution-zmove-ash-ketchum-gif-26673235

[lilac fiber]

Cause that just sounds cool, horribly balanced, but cool

[fading stratus]

I'm very much excited for dynamax dondozo

[lilac fiber]

Bro was truly dripped out

[pseudo goblet]

I take this over Omnitrix retool anytime

[mighty storm]

and every so often we'll have seasons with multiple but can only use one of them each (like how the anime did)

maybe

[lilac fiber]

If I’m correct the only time we have had more than 1 gimmick was ultra sun and ultra moon

[fading stratus]

last time 2 gimmicks were legal they allowed both just not on same mons

[lilac fiber]

With both z moves and megas

[fading stratus]

yeah

that was 6 years ago wild

[mighty storm]

and maybe in one season they'd be "yeah you can use gimmick a and gimmick b in same battle"

[lilac fiber]

Wonder what the next gimmick is gonna be

[fading stratus]

we know

what its gonna be

[pseudo goblet]

Kinda hate how, we can get the z ring and dmax band but NOT Ash’s mega glove irl

[fading stratus]

its [REDACTED]

[jovial goblet]

Could not resolve English data for searches: redacted

[mighty storm]

something to do with ||majinn||

[fading stratus]

||its sigls that give stat buffs or sth iirc but there are mon exclusive sigls for stuff like kommo o||

[lilac fiber]

Ah ok

So generic with some unique like g-max

[fading stratus]

yeah pretty much

[mighty storm]

We don't know the specifics but ||the gen 10 region is greek based and we know majinn is the filler name||

[fading stratus]

we do know from the gaia leak

assuming its real

[pseudo goblet]

Aww really, I was kinda hoping ||china||

[lilac fiber]

Def the interesting, just glad it’s generic cause I like when all moms can get buffs instead of a few (a lot of guys could use megas but it’s Mon specific)

[pseudo goblet]

The genies, the ruins, it was building up man

[fading stratus]

talking about Gmax

oh boy am i ready for gmax zard

[lilac fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/caine-majin-buu-gif-27637723

[pseudo goblet]

Fuck lol

[fading stratus]

probably one of the strongest mon ever

[lilac fiber]

How do I do spoiler thing?

[fading stratus]

||

on both sides

[lilac fiber]

|test|

[fading stratus]

2

not 1

[lilac fiber]

||test||

[pseudo goblet]

try this

[lilac fiber]

There we go, gracias

||wonder if we get a kratos reference in the Greek game, would be really funny||

[fading stratus]

that would be funny

[pseudo goblet]

What If I do four stars Beep

[lilac fiber]

||have it want to fight arceus||

[pseudo goblet]

nothing??

[fading stratus]

||what I dont like about the leak is that it says there are only 120 mons which totals to 150 counting formes ||

[lilac fiber]

That’s still a lot

[fading stratus]

thats feels kinda little tbh

[lilac fiber]

Or is that total in region and not new mons?

If region that is small

[fading stratus]

new + old

[lilac fiber]

Oh

Yeah that is small

[fading stratus]

||there's also apparently a oricorio esque mon that also gets a sigl||

[pseudo goblet]

Which Mega goes well with Sneasler Bolt

[lilac fiber]

||Maybe they will add more overtime, or they want to focus on quality by having less mons, then again that didn’t help sword and shield||

[fading stratus]

there's no mega that sets a terrain yet is there

[fading stratus]

could be like home updates

or dlcs

[lilac fiber]

||but the region does sound like they could have some cool jobs with Greek mythology||

Prob dlcs

[lilac fiber]

||mons not jobs||

[mighty storm]

Im guessing we will get a new mega revealed officially every week till release

[fading stratus]

I'm more interested in if they'll add mega evo in gen 10 or not

probs

[pseudo goblet]

So 6 more mega

[mighty storm]

In which case I wanna see ||Falinks|| mega next

[lilac fiber]

If they have it in champions they don’t really have to keep bringing back old gimmicks in mainline games

[fading stratus]

we probs wont get megas ||of all 6 starters and the megas of the important characters||

[lilac fiber]

||I just want to know what mega Meganium ability is, my baby needs a buff||

[mighty storm]

yeah those likely will be saved for in game surprise kekwl

[pseudo goblet]

… what if the villain leader uses Victreebel… seems out of character

[lilac fiber]

||overgrow and leaf guard ain’t it||

[fading stratus]

wait for like february

or january

I'm thinking thick fat

[mighty storm]

though I saw ||Smudge aka Mega Meganium|| through the leaks, and it seems to be a real leak

[lilac fiber]

Would be better than what it currently has, the ability that lets life steal be priority would be cool

Or huge power if they crazy

[fading stratus]

rad red gave the base form ||triage||

so that could be the ability

you never know

[golden lance]

waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait

[lilac fiber]

Yeah, really anything is better than what it has now though

[golden lance]

if we have to dodge during trainer battles in za

[pseudo goblet]

What if, Grassy Surge

[golden lance]

does that also apply to our opponents?

[mighty storm]

the previously mentioned leaked mega

[golden lance]

can i just send my ttar to murder the gym leaders?

[fading stratus]

if it gets grassy surge honestly it'll probs be budget monke

[pseudo goblet]

What gym leader lmao

[fading stratus]

well there are leaders iirc

[golden lance]

clemont

[lilac fiber]

I love the design though, my baby is so huggable

[fading stratus]

for ranks or sth

[pseudo goblet]

What did Clemont do to you choccy lol

[lilac fiber]

But it needs a really good ability. Mega stat boosts are nice and if leaks are true it gets ||fairy typing||

[mighty storm]

Speedy mons gonna be OP in ZA

[lilac fiber]

But the ability will probably make or break it

[fading stratus]

it'll likely

since it gets a new move in trailer

[golden lance]

anyway 110% chance mega lucha gets stamina yea?

[mighty storm]

from the ZA demo, speed makes you able to use moves quicker

ie less cool down

[pseudo goblet]

Bolt which of the ZA starter is fast?? Totodile??

[fading stratus]

none

all 3 are slow ass

[pseudo goblet]

Rephrase, fastest of the trio

[lilac fiber]

I think he’s the fastest but even then, he needs one dragon dance to go fast I think

[fading stratus]

feraligatr has 78 speed emboar has 60

forgot how much meganium has

[swift jasper]

Why tf is this in comic sans?

[lilac fiber]

Meganium base speed is same as blaziken base I think

[fading stratus]

80

[golden lance]

toto is 78 speed

[lilac fiber]

Minus speed boost obviously

[pseudo goblet]

[golden lance]

yeyeye

[lilac fiber]

So meganium is the fastest surprisingly

[fading stratus]

my phone font dwai

[lilac fiber]

Though again, Toto gets d-dance

[fading stratus]

[lilac fiber]

God I wish meganium had d-dance

[mighty storm]

color coded background

[swift jasper]

I can and will worry about it

[pseudo goblet]

Quiver dance Meganium

[mighty storm]

Meganium is the fastest at 80

[fading stratus]

oh emboar has 65

thought 60

[lilac fiber]

Meganium has surprisingly solid overall stats, problem is it doesn’t specialize in one really, and competitive likes specialized mons

[fading stratus]

even with d dance that base 80 atk would hit like a wet paper

[golden lance]

ok so mega emboar

you see that 100 base spatk?

[lilac fiber]

It still would hit harder at least

[golden lance]

we make that 20

[pseudo goblet]

Emboar had higher sp atk than these two wtaf

[golden lance]

and we give the thing 255 atk

[fading stratus]

we just give mega emboar huge power

huge power with 150 base atk

and idk 150 speed

fuck bulk

bulk is for peasants

[pseudo goblet]

Mega Emboar with gorilla tactic ❗

[lilac fiber]

Fuck it, give mega meganium the special version of intimidate

[mighty storm]

||mega emboar is probably gonna be getting more physical attack||

based off the leaks

[golden lance]

i dont think you needed the leaks to figure that out i'll be completely honest

[mighty storm]

TRUE

[lilac fiber]

The competitive scene will implode if they ever give incineroar a mega

[fading stratus]

according to leeks choccy Mega Hawlucha will probably get more physical atk choccy

[mighty storm]

||Maybe some extra bulk, idk. It's leak is like its a soldier or something||

[fading stratus]

well the doubles comp scene

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/tropius-meganium-pokemon-nurse-joy-gif-27432733

[lilac fiber]

What do the leaks say about mega Meganium stat boosts?

[fading stratus]

singles probably not so much

leaks dont say anything about stats btw

[pseudo goblet]

… should I have pick Meganium because of my pfp

[golden lance]

it said like

[fading stratus]

only appearance

[golden lance]

+atk +def iirc

[mighty storm]

its going off the image description and making an assumption

[golden lance]

and the mega description pretty much implies it has stamina

[pseudo goblet]

Completing my bois dream he couldnt had

[golden lance]

anyway i hope they buff corrosion

so that you can actually hit steel types with poison moves

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-grovyle-gif-18023562437361021718

[fading stratus]

2x even

[golden lance]

and not just be able to click toxic on them

[fading stratus]

fuck it

[golden lance]

bro imagine

[mighty storm]

Like ||mega malamar is going to be slimmer so maybe she faster idk||

[golden lance]

hitting a zacian 4x

[lilac fiber]

My guess is more bulk and maybe more special for meganium

[golden lance]

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick

[fading stratus]

who cares about zacian tbh

[pseudo goblet]

My boi needed everybody losing their abilities to be as good of a mega as the others

[fading stratus]

bro's like 13th best restricted probs

[golden lance]

fine

magearna

[mighty storm]

Mega Mawhile gonna be crying in ZA

Nice lack of huge power

[fading stratus]

mega mawile hasnt been good for a good while

even with huge power

[golden lance]

i hope they buff flying press

that thing does not do what you want it to do

[fading stratus]

last time megas were legal this was mawile's usage

[mighty storm]

yeah and its gonna hit like an extra wet noodle without it

[golden lance]

is this restricted format?

[pseudo goblet]

Behemoth Bash/sword gimmick, turn the normal move into a nuke

[fading stratus]

yeah 2019

[golden lance]

then yea who is gonna run a mega not called rayquaza

and the like, 4 other giga broken ones

[fading stratus]

like everyone

ray wasnt even top 3 best mega

[pseudo goblet]

Mega dragonite keep scale or not

[fading stratus]

who knows

[golden lance]

prob not

i hope it doesnt

[fading stratus]

hopefully it doesnt yeah

[lilac fiber]

What mega are people expecting to be most impactful from the leaks?

[golden lance]

||dnite||

[fading stratus]

not like mawile was any better in non restricted format

[golden lance]

||it literally cant go wrong no matter what stat they buff||

[lilac fiber]

I guess

[fading stratus]

also choccy

steel types were very good in 2019 restricted format

because Xerneas was arguably the best mon

[golden lance]

yea ik

speaking of steel

flying press should just combine what types get hit super effectively by flying and fighting

instead of the move being 2 types at once

bc then you get like, neutral to steel, resisted by fairy

legit worst of both worlds

[fading stratus]

thats why flying presss sucks

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-press-pokémon-flying-press-hawlucha-pokémon-hawlucha-hawlucha-uses-flying-press-gif-25963170

[lilac fiber]

Flying press is sick

[pseudo goblet]

Fancy brave bird

[fading stratus]

regardless of how good new megas are

slowbro is gonna win 2026 worlds

[golden lance]

bolt

place your bets

[pseudo goblet]

Mega G-Slowbro

[golden lance]

can galarian slowbro mega evolve?

[fading stratus]

no

[pseudo goblet]

While I have you two here, obligatory ‘hows your kamen rider binge’ lol

[lilac fiber]

Mega slowbro is so funny to me

[hasty anchor]

Not that we know of

[lilac fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-slowebro-spinning-gif-5747356

Peak design

[fading stratus]

they should give slowbro expanding force and body press

[hasty anchor]

I still feel off with Mega Evolution, since it's just one of those things where yes, it's amazing, but you can

[golden lance]

||btw clef is gonna be fucking degenerate with a mega stone||

[hasty anchor]

You can't help but feel like you shouldn't be putting your partners through it

[fading stratus]

it does get expanding forvce

just body press

[golden lance]

||its already the best knock off absorber in the game||

[pseudo goblet]

Slowpoke the ‘how you like your gore’ mon

Tail, arm, head, whole body

[hasty anchor]

Some are alright (Mega Ampharos, Mega Slowbro), some are iffy (Mega Heracross, Mega Alakazam), and some really, really are just very distressing (Mega Lucario, of course)

[fading stratus]

it probs wont be as good in doubles

[pseudo goblet]

Pirate motif Slowbro, peg leg being Shellder and it fucking does a drill legged rider kick

[fading stratus]

support megas in general arent as amazing unless its like gengar

[hasty anchor]

But then again, the fact that Mega Evolution is only temporary helps a bit

It's amazing power, but there's a good reason why they aren't always Mega-Evolved

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-ruder-forze-rider-rocket-drill-kick-fight-attack-explode-gif-16295474

[golden lance]

and then there's pinsir

[hasty anchor]

About the only bad thing you can say is Pinsir's under a constant dopamine rush of sorts

Otherwise, it's just

[fading stratus]

thats faiz right

[golden lance]

fourze

[fading stratus]

same thing f f

[golden lance]

the shows are 10 years apart

[hasty anchor]

Wasn't until Sun/Moon where the darker aspects were shown, and we still aren't sure of the extent of other mega-evolved formes

[fading stratus]

its just dex saying shit

[hasty anchor]

Makes me wonder just how Swampert's handling being the "Anchor Arms" mudfish

[fading stratus]

dwai

[mighty storm]

also

[hasty anchor]

I really wonder how it has Swift Swim as an ability when it's clear it's been skipping leg day

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-faiz-kamen-rider-555-exceed-charge-555-faiz-gif-21809629

[fading stratus]

I wanted to make a joke but i shouldnt

[pseudo goblet]

You did get the drill thing right, I’ll give you that

[hasty anchor]

One thing's constant with these heroes

Insects and jumping kicks

[mighty storm]

main website implies some of the stat buffs

[fading stratus]

theyre sometimes hero sometimes villain and sometimes they just suck

[mighty storm]

"attack and defense" for hawlucha

[hasty anchor]

Hawlucha gettin' that Super Armor buff

[mighty storm]

and "fly faster" may imply mega dragonite is faster

[pseudo goblet]

Ig you remembered the Zi O episode with Fourze and Faiz huh

[golden lance]

one thing that caught my eye

[mighty storm]

so speed

[golden lance]

mega dnite in the trailer used 4 special moves

0 phys ones

[hasty anchor]

Apparently ending battles very quickly is what Mega Dragonite sees as "mercy"

...Which is very concerning with how powerful a Hyper Beam coming off of it is

[golden lance]

@fading stratus i was watching a blunder stream

the idea of m dnite having no guard cropped up

just imagine bro

[hasty anchor]

Perfect

[pseudo goblet]

Ping me for anything, back to speeding mode, day off tomorrow

[hasty anchor]

Hyper Beam will never miss

[golden lance]

hydro pump hurricane thunder draco meteor

vrazy

[fading stratus]

or moves will probs not miss as much in za

[hasty anchor]

I'm still holding onto the whole "Turning normal type moves to dragon type"

[fading stratus]

or not miss at all

[mighty storm]

Just gotta aim

[fading stratus]

horse theory as they say

[hasty anchor]

Man, after all those jokes it feels like Mega Victreebel just ended up forgotten

Put between cinnamon roll dragon and Rawk Hawk

[fading stratus]

Red Hawk To a

[golden lance]

:ustopthat:

We got rid of the water bottle emote

Noooooooo

[fading stratus]

What if

Dragonite gets skill link

And another multi hitting move idk

[golden lance]

Icicle crash gaming

[icy heath]

Why do you have a disney font on your email are you a disney adult

[slim birch]

Omg it’s our GOAT Mr. Moomin @random stream

[fading stratus]

disney font?

what even is a disney font

like half the world is owned by disney at this point so ig everything

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-walt-pictures-opening-castle-gif-5093357

Cant unsee once Bun mention it lol

[fading stratus]

It's Disney's problem if they use comic sans

[fading stratus]

honestly those dont even look that similar

The font is called happy diary in my phone

[sand forge]

+2

But after watching the trailer for the first time, holy does the pacing drop off when we have to watch the trainer's slow-ass mega evolution animation.

[outer eagle]

Hopefully GF introduces an actual battle animation skip this gen (and an actual cutscene skip at that)

Mfs really be out here disabling only move animations in the settings meanwhile the moment you receive the Mega Ring or Z Crystals the average trainer battle is you doing the slow asf Mega Evolution cutscene or the goofy ahh Z dances into a swift ohko

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/koafreedraw/status/1960119414373613872/photo/1

Koasku 🍔 (@koafreedraw)

X · Aug 25, 2025, 11:17 PM

[warm sky]

don't expect effort

[sonic inlet]

Why am I in the circus rn

Way too many xatu typhlosion in ranked for my taste

[pseudo goblet]

Cuteeeeeeeeeeee ❗

[pseudo goblet]

… yokai watch had shiny??? https://youtu.be/HffBjhXp9Kg?si=tRdjaCZ52PQBmSef

[warm sky]

start hunting

[pseudo goblet]

Who tf notice these things

[pseudo goblet]

Definitely wanted to play the games

Also, I like the ben 10 equivalent they have https://youtu.be/dzJSrJ4IoaE?si=uxkX1fqsvf_yjAt7

[fading stratus]

ben 10 pokemon wannabe

are we building team for yokai watch malaysian nats

[pseudo goblet]

so many Emmas

https://tenor.com/view/lord-enma-yo-kai-watch-sword-magic-ready-gif-20764534

[pseudo goblet]

@normal cave https://youtube.com/shorts/scxAtyGvokk?si=muoscw-adjqP1Jwa

[normal cave]

Very cute stuff

I love slithery pokemon

[tacit sphinx]

Avalugg is the first noble to actually faint me

[warm sky]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nUXdWszUarU

[pseudo goblet]

@hasty anchor

[hasty anchor]

Skitty

[spice rivet]

"...as the subsequent Regulation from December until the launch of Pokémon Champions, which will be announced at a later date"

Oh ya, this def feels likes it dropping in January. Its also likely why we're going back to Regulatio H to readjust to a lower power level of pokemon.

https://championships.pokemon.com/en-us/about/2026-season-changes

[fading stratus]

yeah we knew that

people are expecting december regulation to be reg I again

until Feb

where EUIC is in reg I

[mighty storm]

got one miltank now, just one to go till I can play the rolling frenzy deck

[normal cave]

Is it any good?

[sonic inlet]

Youtube content card basically

But it is funny

[golden lance]

Not that bad for one colorless tho

[sonic inlet]

Maybe miltank silvally could work

Whitney and Irida to keep miltank alive

Sadly even with cape it gets one shot by flareon and buzzwole

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/muis0802/status/1955736102238871734?t=PdDyttku7OUp1n9PvjphGA&s=19

https://twitter.com/Tan_carbonnn/status/1959237173003333972?t=VGqk6MrRXoT0XH7ETRFVoQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/WD_x_3/status/1958534813415350375?t=YLewJ5E5VeTm2aIUTIBIIw&s=19

https://twitter.com/mgomurainu/status/1957122364224749951?t=54szcL-Fv7uxANoqAabMvw&s=19

https://twitter.com/Wildou_p/status/1957065140735508481?t=sj3fB39fT6MVGo8oP5YJBw&s=19

Muis 🌷✨️ (@muis0802)

She WILL do it again :3

X · Aug 13, 2025, 8:59 PM

碳-たん (@Tan_carbonnn)

ポケウォーカー🚶🏻‍♂️

X · Aug 23, 2025, 12:51 PM

💧 (@WD_x_3)

#PokemonLegendsZA

X · Aug 21, 2025, 2:21 PM

もぐち (@mgomurainu)

X · Aug 17, 2025, 4:48 PM

Wildoup (@Wildou_p)

🎶~
#PKSP #ポケスペ

X · Aug 17, 2025, 1:01 PM

[mighty storm]

from my pack just now

[shut loom]

Just fuck it man, ye you can do 70 damage Turn 1, who cares anymore. God knows Pocket needs that powercreep.

[void herald]

has pocket moved on from the "90% of mons are vanillas" phase

or is it still doing that

[shut loom]

Doubt that'll ever change.

Even 10 relevant cards each set feels devastating how fast they are ramping up.

I can't imagine how bad they'd get if all 100 or so cards need to be relevant.

The small stint of UBs being good was neat, but it's back to 2-3 broken EXs and 3-5 cards that work with said deck is still the go to.

[shut loom]

The powercreep was expected.

[golden lance]

Yea its a bit deeper now

[shut loom]

Like I was expected the HP and atk power creep as normal.

[golden lance]

Your good mons also give you draw power now

[shut loom]

But like 70 damage off one energy is so insane. Like just auto lose out cuz of the coin toss/rare candy combo, which was already broken 2-3 sets ago.

[mighty storm]

which card?

[shut loom]

Jumpfluff EX.

Lost twice to it on ladder cuz I only opened 1 starter.

[golden lance]

... The 3 card combo

[shut loom]

Rare Candy into a EX is like 90% of the game already.

Atleast other stage 2 need like 2-4 energy to get going.

And the backup EX is Shuckle that can highroll to 40-60 anyway.

Rarecandy already determined like 40-50% of all games, it didn't need to be this bad, with no one turn grace to claw back even.

[void herald]

i'm not saying they need to be meta relevant but i would like them to at least be interesting

instead of having them just do damage and nothing else

[shut loom]

Fair, fair.

[golden lance]

I'm quite fond of eeveebox

[shut loom]

Wish the poison UB deck had taken off. Or some burn deck.

Feel like every other status eff is super ass to play/run into.

[polar osprey]

?

darktina is STILL the best deck

6 sets in a row now

the biggest meta changing card in 4 sets has only been sylveon

also none of the top 5 decks rn rare candy into an ex Idt

eeveebox, darktina, suicune greininja/tina, buzzwole ex and the oricorio variants

the issue with candy into ex decks is that hand control is way too fucking good in pocket

with mars, red card and silver

[sonic inlet]

And even more so now with suicune

[polar osprey]

yeah I was gonna go into that

suicune punishes playing around red card

[sonic inlet]

Bc you either flood the bench and let cune do a shit ton of damage for 2 energy

[polar osprey]

I think it was this season

the one in 1st or 2nd place

[sonic inlet]

Or keep it all in hand and get fucked by mars

[polar osprey]

was on dartina with fucking

2 mars

over leafs

half of the fucking deck hand control stuff

it doesn't matter how explosive your stage 2 EX is if your hand keeps getting molested every other turn

[polar osprey]

greninja also fucks over stage 2 focused decks

suicune is the stage 2 ex deck destroyer

[sonic inlet]

And the best one rn is zard

Who is fire

Sooo, yeah

[polar osprey]

but now any grass deck is also a stage 2 deck destroyer

this is probably the single most hostile meta towards stage 2 focused decks since pockets release

I blame all of this on zard

[sonic inlet]

And the next stage 2 ex that we'll get is mega blaziken

Who is also getting the same situation

But worse since the card is just worse zard

[polar osprey]

A4B has greninja ex btw

we have the leaked cosmetics

its a bunch of greninja stuff

[sonic inlet]

At least mega gyarados might be good now

[sonic inlet]

Oh, nice

[polar osprey]

btw

suicune is NOT on misty

[sonic inlet]

Figures

[polar osprey]

misty is just bad

people blaming water being bad on a bad card were insane

[sonic inlet]

The only list I saw with misty was one playing 1 suicune 1 palkia 2 silvally

But you're wasting your trainer card of the turn on a 50% chance of getting rewarded

[polar osprey]

I'm seeing a bunch of suicune/tina but Idt its good

you want to keep attacking with suicune

not ramping with tina

[polar osprey]

I was thinking about 1 palkia to fix the decks low damage cap

but Idk

[sonic inlet]

I think grencune is the best water deck by far

But I only have 1 suicune rn

Meanwhile entei is ass rn bc the closest greninja equivalent is typhlosion

[polar osprey]

raikou in theory is the worst one but you can ramp a magnezone in the bench