Pokemon

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Swift swim or multiscale

Oh boy

Gets recover too

[ashen barn]

Want to VC?

Fluff

Fluff birb

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Dinner in a couple of minutes, sadly

[mighty storm]

cursed image of incinerorar

@pseudo goblet

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Kitt being aggressively Italian is something

@sonic inlet

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Got one too

But... still unsure if I'll use Farigiraf

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I likely won't

Its ability is cloud nine

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No armor tail is...

Disappointing

[ashen barn]

Like, cloud nine is good

But...

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I'd rather block out every priority move

But hey, now I have omanyte, wailmer and whiscash on my team

(Omanyte till I get relicanth)

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Imo it's better to have a special attacker

HELLO CUBONE

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Well I don't have a special one sadly

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Baltoy can have intimidate

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Well

I do

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Mine is peli

[sonic inlet]

Because I have a gazillion waters in my boxes

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VC?

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I have wailord

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At what level does it evolve?

[sonic inlet]

40

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So Wailmer

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So I just have wailmer with rain dance for now

Yeah

And I hate the toilet bird

[ashen barn]

Wow

Best drizzle mon by far

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Well we don't know how good wailord is still

Water ice with new moves and all

[ashen barn]

Ocean rave looks good

Also freeze ripple is ok

[sonic inlet]

I wonder why jumpluff doesn't get heal

[sonic inlet]

Iirc it also has freeze curse

Which is just frostbite will o wisp

[ashen barn]

It does

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Wait, why am I even using omanyte when I have marshtomp

I also have bug water masquerain with swift swim

And quiver dance

Though idk about setting up under rain

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And you still don't use the fucking bird

That gets easy drizzle

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95 speed with swift swim is kinda gas

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Yeah he's ugly

I can use Politoed instead if I'm really stubborn

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Larvitar is a nightmare to catch

Sleep and leech, still not caught

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Somehow he was my first encounter the moment I stepped in the dark sand

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FINALLY

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Making a sand team for endgame?

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Absolutely

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Nice

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I'm the sandman

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Iirc sandslash is excadrill at home here

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Without a sand setter proper, I don't use it

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Yea

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Love it
Lovely kiss smoochum

Narmer PLEASE WAKE UP

Btw 1st game I'm not enthusiastic about skarmory

Usually it's literally the best mon ever

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Alright, everyone level 30

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Give me a fucking misdreavusssss

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Just realized

Gengar has fucking shadow tag

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Why do I have light clay but not damp rock

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Does the AI switch a lot though

[ashen barn]

Nope

OH FU

Lv40 armaldo

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Yeah

And cradily

Afterwards

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Fuuuuuuuuuck

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But you get to have aerodactyl and omanyte

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Ok, I have a plan

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I killed armado through spore + leech seed

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Same as me rn

OH NO

1t wake up

Into rock slide kill

Ok, sack peli and then jump kick the cradily

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Fiiiine

I'll use the toilet bird

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It's only for 1 captain

Bc the level cap should increase to level 40

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Quilava isn't appreciating the rain rn

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Did you pick the one johto starter without a custom form

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Let cook

Also ig I could have gone with the magmar

I'm probably taking magmar tbh

It's water fire

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No custom but also specs eruption

Xatu is just a monster

Winged boots help a lot with its speed issue

Ok, I'm realizing a magby issue
Moveset is atrocious

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As I said

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Was too good to be true 😭

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Gotta save it till the nature changer is available

They're in Charon

Which you need to beat a level 45 FOE to access

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depending on foe, I could beat it rn

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Mine is bashful

Good enough

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that's wyvern

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Yeah

Also

It's a kingdra FOE

Aaand dead

Leech seed wins again

Assault vest in Charon

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? You fought the kingdra?

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Yep

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Yeah, I now go too

Totally forgot where it is

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Near the resort

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Got there

Btw perfect coverage

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On kingdra?

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Yeah

Bye petaloid

And bye zodiac

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I managed to leech seed and then stall

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Oh, relicanth is in the omanyte cave

[ashen barn]

3 deaths

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Omw

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Same

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Did you get the rod?

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I did

Next to the captain

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In stratum 2?

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Yea

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CHARON LETS YOU CHANGE NATURE FOR 3K

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And now you have vitamins and nature changer in aqua resort, too

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I'll do it tomorrow

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Cya then

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And with this, I go too

[fading stratus]

I should start playing it again I didn't play the whole day yesterday

[pseudo goblet]

So many GOATED roles

[frosty ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-boy-yes-gif-6042030

[pseudo goblet]

Holy

Wifi is whipping me so Im forced to shiny hunt

51st Lunala

Still nothing

[fading stratus]

Topsy turvy is a really really funny move

[pseudo goblet]

Max move boost bothering with Countrary

So many seeds

I do not like that they kick me from selecting items if I forgot to click

[fading stratus]

[pseudo goblet]

Btw Crawdaunt practically one shot Lunala with Sword Dance Lash Out Crit just now, I have the video but again, Wifi is dicking with me so

Also 52nd but nothing again

[pseudo goblet]

Flygon did dragon claw it so the Ability was off

[spice rivet]

Oh and I was lucky enough that one of those 4 Shiny P2s I got yesterday had 0 speed pog

[fading stratus]

Holy 0 speed

Gj

[ashen barn]

My man Tidal has been grinding it

[fading stratus]

I did beat gym 1

Volbeat and illumise are a bitch

Also I thought lileep had storm drain so I didn't even use a water move for the first half of the fite

Then I saw it take no damage from jiggly's bulldoze

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Oh yeah
Spread is like gen 3
Doesn't hit partner

No wonder surf has been removed

Also this dude is pissing me off
4 poisons off poison fang

Anyway get swept by rain team

Tbh I might drop max speed from whisc
It's already insanely fast under rain

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Hey, I do wait for you smh

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I am just not connecting with a single attack after this swellow used double team

Fucking finally

The 9th crunch worked

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Did you get the leftovers?

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I did

And rocky helmet and AV

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Same

Soft sand, finally

I needed a bulldoze power boost

Since narmer gets EQ at 40

Barboach gets it at 35 iirc

But it's a fucking barboach

I love btw how you get stuff to beat the captain just by interacting with what you have around

Like idk
Rain dance tm in Golgonda

I don't need it, but you know

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Peli with bulky spread is a god made manifest

Also because my partners are 2 ground types with swift swim
So the poison and electric types aren't exactly thrilled to face it

[pseudo goblet]

So, depending on how this Lunala ends I might like Kingklang, Gear Shift Gear Grind kinda scary

And it fail hard, KlinKlang is mid lmao

Also nothing for me

[ashen barn]

Klingklang has likely the worst curse of any steel type

It gets no good STAB besides its signature move

And it really wants a better movepool

Half of its moves are electric without it being an electric type, slow physical attacker that's walled by any other steel as it doesn't get EQ iirc

Really, it suffers from mid speed, mid moves and mid ability

Plus isn't a fucking ability

Ok, stats aren't so mid

But this looks like a gen 3 movepool

[pseudo goblet]

I am, having the worst run I ever done

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Wild charge by TR

[pseudo goblet]

2 lives at first route, down to last so far in second route

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At least you can pretend you're not destroyed by a water type

[pseudo goblet]

Still bothers me that Tentacruel knowa Sword Dance…

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Fun fact
It has that since gen 1

It was meant as a way for it to use its poison stab (physical until gen 3)

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Yeah it helped quite a bit vs nidoking

Though I swapped to wailord now

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No longer toilet bird uh

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It was just for the captain

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Tbh I think I will stick with the peli

It's really good with flying stab

It also gets tons of utility

[pseudo goblet]

Lunala please Magic Coat a bunch or yeah Moonblast ibto Salazzle

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With how frail sala is, I'd be shocked if it lives 2 blasts

[pseudo goblet]

It moonblast into Mime too

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I am preparing weather teams for everything

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Nice utility

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Oh ok

Ketos is nice ig

[pseudo goblet]

See for yourself

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That icy wind is helpful

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Wow

Does it randomly target?

[pseudo goblet]

And Max Phantasm into Salazzle, 2 fail in a tow

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I still have to see if mist is useful

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It...sometimes is

Given the presence of many new moves that debuff

[pseudo goblet]

Hey Bruial lol

[sonic inlet]

True

[normal cave]

Yo

I am very sleepy

[pseudo goblet]

We had 2 dark attackers and NPC doesnt choose them 🤦‍♂️

[ashen barn]

Even gen 3 AI is smarter

Haven't tried encore stuff yet

But it really looks like fire red AI

Which is also Emerald AI

If it is, game breaks wide open

The EK Pchal video has Emerald AI explained

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With how the AI sometimes selects one of my guys with full health over the one that's dying... yeah

[ashen barn]

Which is weird, given the AI

Because the Emerald AI is coded to prioritize a kill over everything else

It's also how you can truly set up some dumb shit

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Ok, third stratum has... burning trees?

From what the image showed

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It should be fire

Soooo that tracks

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Yeah

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Also, you are definitely liking the game

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It's this image

So yeah

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From "I'll check it out" to "catch up with me, I'll be playing during exam season"

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Just in GBA graphics

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Yeah

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I certainly am

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So far, it's been the most memorable strata of the franchise

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Oh, those are over

I'm just waiting for the results

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1st stratum was the forest

Which is a staple of the franchise, 1st floors are a forest

2nd was Golgonda desert, with Kitt

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Yes I'm sure it's the same in the franchise

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And this somehow tracks to EO1 desert in 4th stratum

Also a desert

[sonic inlet]

Oh so they just swapped around to introduce Kitt early

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Yeah

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Makes sense

[ashen barn]

If the thing was
1 - forest
2 - jungle
3 - rainforest
4 - desert
5 - abandoned ruins
6 - final boundary

I'd have called EO1

EO1 final boundary, given the nature of the labyrinth there, is you going in the belly of the beast

EO1, before the remake in Fafnir Knight, had an almost absent story

[pseudo goblet]

Alright~ three lives into this one, should work this time

[ashen barn]

But man, 5th stratum was gut punch after gut punch

[sonic inlet]

That's just how old games tend to go with the first one tbf

[ashen barn]

Nah, it's better than that

It's extremely subtle

[pseudo goblet]

Still nothing, 53th tho

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And you only discover the story because of you picking up old notes randomly in the dungeon

Project Yggdrasil

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Dark souls ass story

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It was humanity hitting the reset button

[pseudo goblet]

20 runs with zero shiny god damn, to think I had foujd 7 shinies within the first 33 runs

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And you only see this by exploring what used to be Tokio, apparently

[sonic inlet]

Story also seems to pick up here with the third stratum?

[ashen barn]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/etrian/images/b/b7/Lost_Shinjuku.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/256?cb=20200619195829

This, seen on a ds, was glorious

You actually have elevators

[sonic inlet]

Ok but why is tokyo inside a giant tree so deep underground 😭

[ashen barn]

And old tech still running

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And the tree has electricity?

[ashen barn]

Because this is the beating heart of project Yggdrasil

[ashen barn]

You bring it back

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Ah

Well that's quite cool

[ashen barn]

Project Yggdrasil, from the notes you find

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Fifth stratum here is just... deep shrine

From what it says on the map

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"March 20xx...we, as a species have...led. Pollution and greed has devas...ed the out...orld"

[pseudo goblet]

Enemy Mr mine use Helping Hand, mate, you re lonely

[ashen barn]

Basically these notes around the entire thing

With mentions of planting the seed deep underground, in hope that it will grow and restore the planet...without humans.

[ashen barn]

EO3

You sir, have the perfect guide to the series

[sonic inlet]

Only thing I feel like finding out as we go deeper underground is what each strata's theme is

[ashen barn]

The building that the stratum take place may be the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Building, which is composed of two twin towers. Said building represents Shinjuku world-wide, plus on popular culture its used on post apocalyptic stories in order to easily identify the destroyed city, which easily related to the game context.

5th stratum lore

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Iirc the first game's last strata is some flesh cavern, but looks like it's not that here

[ashen barn]

Yeah

Because here's the catch

The tree is alive.

All this time, you went deeper and deeper in it

And the majority of the monsters you find are its cells there

[sonic inlet]

It is a tree, those usually are alive

Oh

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Is that why omastar gets cell shield

[ashen barn]

Yes

Omastar here is Primevil

Aka final superboss

[sonic inlet]

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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/etrian/images/c/cc/Clarret_Hollows.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/256?cb=20200619195902

6th stratum.

Mostly poisonous interior and cells as enemies

[sonic inlet]

Oh so this game just has 2 extra strata

[ashen barn]

Beyond the god's sight
All that lives shall succumb
Explorers' abbatoir
Half-mad from self-doubt
The sentinel of eternity

This is the description of the Stratum

[ashen barn]

Yeah, as later entries in the franchise do

Naval exploration is from EO3

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/etrian/images/2/23/Sandy_Barrens.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/256?cb=20200619195801

This was 2nd stratum

Where you also meet for the first time other sentient lifeforms.

Aka the old humans, which adapted and got modified to be almost monster-like.

[sonic inlet]

Meanwhile apparently here it also has an underground city

[ashen barn]

EO1 is really dark once you think about it

[sonic inlet]

Yeah I assumed it was just from seeing a cave made of flesh

[ashen barn]

That is technically after the final boss

Final boss is in the 5th

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Oh

Uh

The third stratum

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||and it's the GUILDMASTER||

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ALSO

Has notes

You'll see when you get there

A chosen one is sacrificed for something to recover its strength

[ashen barn]

I am Yggdrasil's guardian; the only survivor of my era.

This is how the final boss greets you

The guildmaster, always shrouded in mystery (which you get hunches from notes and speaking with people around you), seems immortal

Its name is Visil.

[sonic inlet]

And so is the professor...

[ashen barn]

In Untold, the remake, it's "controlled to a degree"

EO1 instead he's fully fucking conscious

Also, you actually murder 2 of your mentors in EO1

[sonic inlet]

Ig the game gets more serious as you go further down

[ashen barn]

Ren the Ronin and Tlachgta

The hexer

[pseudo goblet]

Apparently my wifi is back baby!

[sonic inlet]

[ashen barn]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/etrian/images/0/01/Etreant.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/256?cb=20210909175157

[pseudo goblet]

QUICK CLAW CAME IN CLUTCH!!! Obstagoon Lash out got Lunala!

[sonic inlet]

Is that a mouth

[pseudo goblet]

Finally~ goddamn, still not Lunala but I’ll take a phase

@fading stratus @normal cave

Sassy, huh, not too bad

Holy shit this map is bad…

[ashen barn]

https://cdn.staticneo.com/ca/etrian_odyssey_conceptart_q8z5s.jpg

Azure rainforest is my 3ds' theme

Best artwork in game with lost shinjuku

[sonic inlet]

Maybe it's this?

[ashen barn]

Also I love the camp's music in Stratum 2

It's from Pokémon ranger shadows of Almia

[sonic inlet]

Stratum 3 music is also very good

[ashen barn]

Paco just meshed together ranger, EO and MiA music

So the music is fire

[sonic inlet]

Oh, there's MiA music?

[ashen barn]

Also every element is here

[sonic inlet]

Thought it was just references

[ashen barn]

I already heard a couple of soundtracks from that

It's subtle

[ashen barn]

How many soundtracks do you think I have?

I have the entire collection for basically all of ranger, all of EO, and all of MiA

[sonic inlet]

Yeah, meanwhile I... know almost nothing of EO, and just a couple of things about MiA

[ashen barn]

I just noticed something

[maiden flax]

Is this Pokemon odyssey?

[ashen barn]

There's an explorer in 2nd stratum that says "connected to Auburn Thicket"

[maiden flax]

Everyone seems to be playing it

[sonic inlet]

Indeed it is

[ashen barn]

And Auburn Thicket is the name of EO2's 2nd stratum

[sonic inlet]

Me Mug and Mark are playing it

Mug is the guide

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Call me survivalist

Apollon comes down in 3 turns, I gather everything

[sonic inlet]

Apollon?

[ashen barn]

EO has a survivalist class

Usually not great

But it has apollon

Which is a 3 turn bow shot that does insane damage

Survivalists are usually guides, veterans that know a lot, experts in traps and movement in the labyrinth

[sonic inlet]

Ahh

Neat

[ashen barn]

They're extremely useful early game

They usually fall off a cliff afterwards

Found good rod

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Are they lemmings

[ashen barn]

Are what?

[sonic inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-jump-jump-dont-eveonline-pubg-gif-14979603

They're known to jump off cliffs if their group gets too big

[ashen barn]

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Right next to the captain

Gl

Though honestly it was easier than the lileep

[ashen barn]

Survivalists also come in big time late game for optional bosses

Because of their evasion kit

[fading stratus]

Btw do foe have fixed levels

[ashen barn]

Yes

[fading stratus]

Also gj Zane

[ashen barn]

There are docs with the infos

[pseudo goblet]

Thank god Lunala Magic Coat on last round, 55th

[fading stratus]

Docs are for plebs real mean play blind

[ashen barn]

Hey

A healer (or war magus in EO2) is helpful

[fading stratus]

Funny words magic man

[ashen barn]

In EO in general you straight up can't win without one

[pseudo goblet]

Nothing~

Dang Nebby is persistent

[fading stratus]

What even is a EO

Elite One?

[sonic inlet]

Etrian Odyssey

[fading stratus]

I haven't played the game at all

[sonic inlet]

Me neither

Which is why Mug is the guide

Or uh

Survivalist

[fading stratus]

Do we see Bondrewed in the game

[sonic inlet]

Nothing MiA so far I think

Though it looks like the story only starts picking up post second stratum and I just entered the third

[fading stratus]

How far do I need to go to meet kit

[sonic inlet]

Second stratum

[ashen barn]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BCm3yamjvnA

[sonic inlet]

Oh there really are MiA soundtracks

Hanezeve Caradhina and Old Stories

[ashen barn]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=zjGk0quval8

[sonic inlet]

I like the second one

[ashen barn]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=hdjWrDAUmGw

[maiden flax]

I really should play eo
I have loved every other drpg I have played

And they are also a really good window to see why jrpg dungeons are the way they are
Considering a majority of them took inspiration from the drpg wizardry

Long hallways with a lot of mobs to fight
But jrpgs seemingly have forgotten why drpgs did this
That being to drain your resources before you reach the boss

[sonic inlet]

FF3 be like

[maiden flax]

Btw does EO also have the reaper mechanic?

(the mechanic where if you stay in a dungeon for too long a reaper(s) will eventually spawn which is so strong that it will, almost definitely, wipe your team)

[maiden flax]

(meant to reply here)

[ashen barn]

IF YOU FIND A BUG/SOMETHING WEIRD DURING YOUR ADVENTURE AND DON'T REPORT IT IN #1124016852335603803, I WILL CONSIDER IT AS "NON-EXISTENT". YOU CAN'T EXPECT ME TO READ ALL YOUR MESSAGES IN #1055092779652493322 OR #1055534045091594261 .

PLEASE UNDERSTAND :prayge:

This was from the creator

[ashen barn]

No

There's no time limit in early EO

[maiden flax]

Ooo

[ashen barn]

Your resources are the true limit

Very limited

Like, you have 60 bag slots total

And mp is somewhat limited

There's a way in EO2 to effectively make it limitless

Curse hexer and cursedrain war magus with transfer

Transfer gives 40 mp to any party member, curse is a status condition that doubles damage taken and if you attack, you take half the damage you deal. Cursecut, or cursedrain, is a skill that cuts and recovers mp equal to the damage.

TRUE DAMAGE, NOT DAMAGE DEALT.

So you can basically walk up to a group of low level fodder, stall and make everyone recover mp via transfer, then curse into cursecut

And WM has access to the cures

[normal cave]

This is a lie actually. Disney made that up in their documentary to make them seem more interesting, and the film crew was actually throwing lemmings off the cliff for footage.

https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=56

[ashen barn]

Not the Marmotta

[normal cave]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Wilderness_(film)

[sonic inlet]

Okay so documentaries have also lied to me

[normal cave]

Yes, this is a documentary that lied to you for example

[ashen barn]

Zodiac and Mailman lead

OW rock slide still does a lot

[sonic inlet]

Captain battle?

Good luck

[ashen barn]

Mailman for petaloid

I DIDN'T EXPECT NIDO IN

[sonic inlet]

Iirc I lead with xatu and jumpluff

[ashen barn]

I'm sorry, how fast is nidoking

Ig it's a reset

[normal cave]

https://www.britannica.com/story/do-lemmings-really-commit-mass-suicide

[ashen barn]

I missed 2 hi jump kick

[normal cave]

Lemmings do not commit suicide. However, this particular myth is based on some actual lemming behaviors. Lemmings have large population booms every three or four years. When the concentration of lemmings becomes too high in one area, a large group will set out in search of a new home. Lemmings can swim, so if they reach a water obstacle, such as a river or lake, they may try to cross it. Inevitably, a few individuals drown. But it’s hardly suicide.

[ashen barn]

In a row

[sonic inlet]

Helping hand on xatu to kill skarmory

[ashen barn]

Yeah, I grossly underestimated the damage output of a poison barb nido

[sonic inlet]

Think masquerain killed it fortunately

[ashen barn]

I lead the same duo of peli and xatu

[sonic inlet]

Aerodactyl was the last one they sent out

Which also helped

[ashen barn]

I need to cut off their speed

Skarmory threw

[sonic inlet]

Nice

[ashen barn]

Quag in, he sees bulldoze

And I see a quad effective giga drain

[sonic inlet]

Quagsire was annoying since jumpluff was dead by then

[ashen barn]

Xatu died

WATER TACKLE IN RAIN ON THE INCOMING NARMER

[sonic inlet]

Think the saving grace was that I managed to burn it with heat wave

[ashen barn]

Ow

I should kill both

Narmer is the fastest one on the field still

[sonic inlet]

btw I should be able to VC today

[ashen barn]

Phan kills narmer for the safe switch to eviolite shtomp

Now all I need is tank 2nd shard

Nvm nothing wants to sleep

Helping hand rain boosted water pulse

Thanks, petaloid

[sonic inlet]

[ashen barn]

BP on the 1hp donphan

Pulse on dactyl

Don't tell me the poison does me in

[sonic inlet]

Last mon?

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Yeah

Nidoking got a crit sludge bomb with poison

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Ouch

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As only move

My out is he sees a kill with random move

Yeah no

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It was a 1 in 16

To low roll

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Almost there though

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Eh

In the end, it didn't matter

New strat

Zodiac and petaloid

Helping hand wave

Barely tanked knock

Quag is not a factor so far

So spore into nido and ib

Could've slept quag

Slide...ok I threw

Plan was good, I just misclicked and slept nido instead of quag

And nido got destroyed by IB

I'm going to try again after lunch

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Heat wave managed to miss both mons turn 1

30% poison my ass

I'M SORRY WHAT

Ok, there's a bug with donphan

Turns out that if you hit it on the switch, sturdy counts its current hp at the start of the turn AS TOTAL HP

Giving it sturdy

If it's not 100% accurate, might as well be 0% accurate uh
Miss 2 hi jump kicks

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The classic Mug luck, huh

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oh you can get stones from the lottery

thats funny

bro I won like 8 times then I started whiffing every time

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Won anyway

But it was too close for comfort

Thankfully the grass lady at the guild is super easy

Heat wave helping hand twice

And it just became easier since now grovyle doesn't spam detect

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This dodged 3 90% heat waves

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If this doesn't say everything, idk what does

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I do also use that girl to level up

Xatu + Breloom

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I just spam heat wave and helping hand

Xatu is faster and can ohko

I was thinking about changing meditite soon

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I already did once I left the first stratum

Breloom is great

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Thing is, I need something strong physically

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Third stratum also has growlithe

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Also preferably can stop rock slide spam

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Would play it for intimidate and e speed, but... eh

Water team

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Finally

Lv35

Medicham, come to papa

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Oh there's also Magby

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Yeah

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Weird place for a pirate to be in

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Still, 90 speed 70 atk medicham

90 isn't a bad speed tier, especially jolly max speed

And 70 atk with max ev there is a lot

Medicham base game with just 60 atk is just 5 atk less than groudon

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Yeah it hits hard

But I hate hi jump kick

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It doesn't get CC

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Unfortunately

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Muddy water on pert

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Mixed swampert no way

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LMAO SLAKING GOT NERFED

600 bst

Not 670

But also real ability

THE ABILITY IS A FUCKING CHOICE BAND BOOST TO GROUND AND FIGHTING

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Adaptability?

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So... stab ground and fighting

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Nope

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When do we get slakoth

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It's still a normal type

VARLEY WOODS

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Tbf you also get a jirachi early

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We had this insane beast the entire time

I was also seeing chikorita

Aka Greed Lizard

Grass poison

With poison blood

Aka 50% boost to poison

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Does the game have any mons beyond gen 3?

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Oh yeah I can probably beat the first treasure guy

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Gen 4 evos + paradox

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A few evos from prior gens

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Only some paradox tho

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It should be a lv50 whiscash

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I assume no iron crown but yes walking wake

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Yeah that sounds beatable

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With leftovers

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Hmm I think there's only paradoxes of gen 1-3 mons

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Wake is in

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So scream tail, moon, etc

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Only 8 mons

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Moon

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It doesn't have outrage

Has intimidate

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Iirc bosses later on just get all these guys too

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Ok so the Whisc is 130hp, 120 atk, 125 def, 125 spdef and 70 speed

Oblivious so no breaking through it

Or intimidate it at least

Quakeslide + waterfall and wild charge

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Leech seed time

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I'd like to steal its leftovers

There's 1 mon that can do so

And with fur coat, it might be good enough

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Mightyena

No item fur coat

It can steal leftovers to avoid lefties nullifying leech

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Riight

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It's the only mon in the game with thief

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spam leech seed then poison powder

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Well then

I think some guys get toxic too

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Your survivalist has a plan

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Roselia does

Quagsire too

Right at 40

With leech support and unaware, it can work

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how easy can you get a shiny stone

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Uhhh not too hard

I need dawn stone to replace medicham

@sonic inlet next lord of the sea isn't leech seed spammable

Jinx with bright powder and grass water

Anything to speed up training would be welcome tho

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Thought you were going to use gardevoir instead

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That's a possibility

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I kind of want gallade because +2 priority follow me + bulk up

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I mean

I was going to garde

Then I got xatu

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Yeah

I also have xatu + breloom

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Medi gets cc apparently

At 55

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whats the best TW setter I wonder

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Best weather?

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Tailwind

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It doesn't exist

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aww a doubles game with no tailwind

what a missed opportunity

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And no TR

It's gen 3

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Moon with no Tailwind hurts

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it doesn't

it can just d dance

and stuff

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But intimidate is insane

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Sala also has ddance

And 135 atk, roaring 105

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huh they nerfed moon

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Wtf that's a huge nerf

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105 is probs good enough with d dance

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Wait, no

139

105 is hp

Mb

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Ah so unchanged

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mug spreading misinfo

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Flutter imo still best

Although now it really dies to dark

Because no fairy type, there's aether

Which is dark weak

Also xatu is a monster

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Does it have Gleam?

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what does aether even hit for super

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Nothing, if I'm reading correctly

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What ability does flutter have

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Levitate

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Replaced dragon immunity with earth immunity

Lost broken fairy coverage

Dies to crunch

Is Pursuit in the game?

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You barely switch anyway

But idt it is

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bro I'm lv 18 and my azu still doesnt have a good physical move

when does it even get a good move

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Like 20 or 25 iirc

20

65 power water tackle

Aqua jet and flip turn at 25 and 30

And belly drum by evo

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Poge

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Yep

Also dratini in another area

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GET IN THE BALL NEBBY

BRO ITS +4 FROM METAL CLAW IN RED HEALTH AND PARA'D AND I STILL CANT CATCH IT

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It does have 4 resistances tho

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Btw chiko might be insane

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Yeah beldum is a pain in the ass to catch

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I picked it

Once jumpluff falls off

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FINALLY I HAVE ONLY 1 BALL LEFT LMAO

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I might use meganium

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Ahhh, wing talon

My old enemy

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Did you reach the third stratum yet or just doing quests

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Got there, rn stalling

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Okey

And finished lunch

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Rn I want to beat the 1st sea lord

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So do I

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So I'm training the guys that can do so

I want a 2nd leftovers

[pseudo goblet]

Now you know how I felt with the shiny beldums

Did it have Take down or Tackle

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Metal claw

They made beldum more useful here

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Still one move only?

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Yeah

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Something I don't like is how some mons don't have previous stages with etrian variants

Like, come on

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Wailmer

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Bayleef normal

To then turn into a poisonous lizard

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… wait Metal Claw still kinda weird tho, its a bloody dumbbell rocket, it would have to drift to claw somebody

https://tenor.com/view/beldum-pokemon-speed-gif-25747478

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Maybe it does a flip

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Mightyena also gets super fang

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Not ratreecate?

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Also that

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Alright then, time to get a crack at it too

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I'm preparing the team

It's going to be mightyena, and idk if I need toxic

Nah, I don't need to

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-gif-24395495

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I'll use ratreecate instead

Faster

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You need to take its leftovers

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...right

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Mightyena is the only mon with thief

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Welp

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A dark ice defensive mon wasn't on my bingo card

I'm bringing fenrir to 40

I need it to last 2 turns against a jacked cash

And yes I do also need quag

Because of how jacked is the damn thing

I think it has at least 1 omniboost

2 mons for stealing and poisoning

Also unaware

In case it's a bit jacked

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Level 40 now

Time to give it a try

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ALREADY?

How

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Emulator

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Right

You can speed up

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I just speed up the grindy parts

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This also explains how you overtook me

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Speeding up everything else is a crime with how good the music is

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Well we're in the same spot rn

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I mean

I can't catch up

I'm on real hardware

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Yeah ik

Which is why I wait

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Sludge bomb did not get buffed

So it's me getting 30%ed every time

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I might have to make mightyena max hp max def

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You can use fluffy

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No stat boosts

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Oblivious will stop any intimidate anyway

No boost??

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Nope

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Then I don't need quag

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Earthquake on a jumpluff

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Did you steal its leftovers?

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I did

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Well that was easy

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Ye olde trick

Check if yena has the leftovers

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It does

Yippie

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Congratulations

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One for wailord and another for jumpluff

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It sure is useful to have someone with gen 3 knowledge, uh?

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Tbh yena might just have the best niche in the game

Against bosses

Because of fluffy, frost curse and thief

At what point does fucking intimidate get to be a bonus

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Oh boy the thing is level 60

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Who is?

The next boss?

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Yeah

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Ig in due time

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I just want a gallade

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Fluffy sure is an ability

Ok fenrir, time for petaloid to do its thing

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Well, ig you get dawn stones in the third stratum

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Fluffy is good stuff

Fur Coat but worse

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Defensive ice type

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You lied to me that's fur coat not fluffy

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This thing is a physical wall

Evaporates to a flamethrower tho

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Ice dark

Ig balanced by atrocious typing

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The FOE blocking Gorenil is level 55

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Dies when someone says the word aura sphere

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And that's a lapras

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Wait where

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Gorenil

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THANKS

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And xatu soloes

Thanks assault vest

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Where tf is Gorenyl

Ok found

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Roost move tutor

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I want to try and get a wailmer

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Aaaand the woods are closed off until I beat the third stratum

Alright

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What a copycat

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Yeah, yeah, whatever

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It's at the dock

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Do I try getting a kingdra?

I ALREADY HAVE GOOD SWIFT SWIMMERS

Wailmer found

We found the mini wailord

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Welp, nothing to do here, soooo

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some would remember this as a quote from Pokémon rangers

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WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME IT HAD LEFTOVERS

I could've stolen these

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Oh yeah

I forgot too

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Wtf

Did they buff sturdy

I hit probopass with a water tackle, then with a scald

And it still endured the hit

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Bug

It's the same thing I met earlier

[swift jasper]

no it's a rock

silly

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Not a bug apparently

[swift jasper]

i already covered that, he's not a bug

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[swift jasper]

ok i like this emote

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Aight let's see if...ok yeah EQ always hit partner

Note to self

Never use eq with xatu near

@sonic inlet I just noticed something

Lucky egg locked behind auburn thicket

ARE YOU FOR

90% accuracy, both didn't hit

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So that's what's there

Hurray

WHY ARE YOU SETTING UP A GLISCOR AGAINST AN ICE TYPE

And now it's helping hand into will-o-wisp

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Ok so
Not bad so far, Wailord isn't bad

And it's basically only because peli doesn't get a good STAB for a fucking while

@sonic inlet 3rd stratum is fairly long ngl

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Wtf I haven't even started it yet

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You just skipped a good 2 hours of me trying to get items

And got gallade

Not replacing medicham yet because fake out

And I got a wide lens

99% accurate, if I randomly miss a hi jump, I'm boxing cham

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In the third stratum?

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Yes

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Boy, if that one's that big

We still have 5 more

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Honestly, it only makes me excited

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Yeah

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Pokemon wishes it made games this big and this packed

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And there's an underground city between the fourth and the fifth

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Also it's a fucking GBA game

Can we just realize that Paldea is like half of this?

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How's Kitt doing

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And half of Paldea is empty textures

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Big ass tree if anything ngl

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Like what do we have

Sea exploration that's about as big as half a region BY ITSELF

Like, just the content on the islands would make for a couple of dlcs

Then we have these massive underground dungeons

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I still have to find the bells

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Me too

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Plus the uh

Jagged mountain riddle

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Also, next sea lord is Jinx

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You didn't solve it yet?

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Nah the other one

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Ah, ok

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Heaven and abyss shall never find harmony, thus hath the High Judge, our creator.

And all that

Welp, time for me to join in the exploration, then

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Idt it's meant to be solved now

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Yeah

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Btw can you imagine upscaling this game for the switch?

Move over BOTW

One could also use the HD versions of the soundtracks

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Oh god double wigglytuff

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Instead of the GBA stuff

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Bro it's ground normal

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Yeah ik

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Just scald waterfall them

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Just funny

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I take a break at the camp

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Nvm it was 4 fucking wigglytuffs

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It makes more sense when you see who's using them

Read name slowly.

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Okay I still have no idea what these steles are talking about

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Btw the guy using 4 wiggly

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I didn't read his name

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IT'S BECAUSE OF HARVEST MOON

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In harvest moon you can marry 4 girls

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And he talks about veggies

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AND WIGGLY STANDS FOR VILLAGER CLASS

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Cute reference

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Time to be a rat

An absolute rat

My job has 7€ vouchers for paying for stuff

Mainly lunches and shit

I'M PAYING BEERS AND CHIPS AT THE MARKET

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Found flamethrower

Unfortunately, heat wave better

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For doubles, yeah

You should be close to where I stopped now

Btw tonight I'm not available

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Aight

I will be tomorrow and Tuesday

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THE 1 TIME I GO OUT

And it rains

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How am I even catching up to you if you spent 2 hours ransacking the place

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BRO I GOT LOST FOR HALF OF THE TIME