#Pokemon
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there are gazillion good fire mons
y'know the best mon in the game
or like the best mon introduced this gen
tera fire firepon is probs the second strongest fire move this gen
Revival Blessing 

Chi yu
I think it'd be cool if it got blessing
strongest is probably
tera fire oricalcum pulse life orb flare blitz in the sun
collission course
Thought it was that
you dont even run that

well you sometimes do
but close combat is just better
wow @normal cave I was so ahead of my time 
https://twitter.com/abilirn/status/1906665437682860287/photo/1
https://twitter.com/hokaimo_pkmn/status/1899058594269864435/photo/1
https://twitter.com/hokaimo_pkmn/status/1905938333618090476/photo/1
https://twitter.com/hokaimo_pkmn/status/1903406055490810149/photo/1
https://twitter.com/umykwa/status/1906246828083094000/photo/1
So do we call the first pic ‘Gasoline’
@icy heath flareon

How long these usually last? Sis already frighten by the situation 
Like how long it takes to finish
should last the day
you can just ask her to drop you
then return yourself
or idk ask her to pick you up again
at the end of the day
Watch she left and me immediately losing the first match 
Bolt is there like, easy to assume what common teams would show up that day
Totally not asking because Perish Trap 
Is perish trap common? It's a really hard strat to pilot
people here can be total dicks, who knows how many of them wanna do this evil strat 
In all seriousness tho, I just in hopes to not go against Perish Trap again lol
Orrrrrrrr
Learn how to beat it
You have a few weeks before the event, so you can practice against it
Roar on your own pokemon also works
Roar on goth is iffy since they might swap it back in
Wait its actually viable? 
But it can work if you swap them into a mon that is slower than your mons
Dyl did it in the finals vs Wolfe. It might not have been a great move that time, but it means they have done that before
Do Talonflame get Whirlwind 
Whirlwind is normal iirc
Actually Prankster Whirlwind seems way better
Srsly???
Also, whirlwind has -6 priority
Prankster makes it -5
There are strats to get prankster roars and such off, but they require your entire team to be built around them and are quite gimmicky
dumb self for forgetting that quirk
Killing the Goth works
Ooooh
Urshifu Single Strike shuts down Perish Trap on its own
Goth with Snow Cloak 
Urshifu in general is good vs Perish, but Single Strike especially so
Cloak is the one with evasion in snow right
Snow Cloak is an ability
So it means no Shadow Tag
Except whoever did the Skill swap
Perish Trap is weak to getting fucking murdered
You can't play too passive or scared against it
Inexperience is the enemy yeah
Watch Wolfe's videos on his perish trap teams, and see how he talks about how aggression is the key to stopping perish trap
They need time to get their strat off, and if you are beating them the fuck up they can't. They do have protect on every mon, and fake out on goth, so you need to keep those in mind
But if you can set up a situation where they can't safely set perish, or if you have a pokemon lead against them, they will struggle
Perish wants to be 3v2 against you, they can automatically win if they have that
This team has tools to deal with Perish, right Bolt?
Urshi and Incin seem really good vs Perish
You want incin ursh pon and pagos against them I think, to murderize them to death
You can fake out it
Or Scream Tail
Knock Off will hit it hard, and parting shot lets you pivot
… makes me wonder just wtf was I doing back then
Idk, but I think you should do well into perish with some practice
wolfey's team is a bit popular but thats it
no other perish
I HAD the tools
You got scared, it's ok, it happens
I've fumbled good matchups many times
the team you should know how to play against is arubega in the first place
not perish
Arubega?
That sounds like a vegetable lmfao
The Mirai team?
THE Mirai team
Yeah I just lose to Mirai Whims lead
Idfk how to play against that team
Gen 9 meta 101
just remember
pagos can just remove the terrain
but only once
you can just giraf pagos lead
trick room lol

trick room non tera starstorm in mirai slot
Then they hamds you no?
what hands vro
Ill have to be silent for a while, yall continue without me 
Hamds or ursh gonna hurt
if you fear hands you can just psychic noise
or cycle intimidate
that does require a good knowledge of positioning

Can't overtech for one mon
well wisp helps against zama
Whisp kinda good tho yeah
both zama and non tera fire caly ice really fear wisp
there was a funny mon I wanted to put in the team
but I didnt think zane can play it well
Comfey?

The Low Ladder Hard TR mon
Mon is dogshit with a bad player
You run fake out follow me spore decorate ye?
but did you know
follow me rage powder redirects decorate too
you can run wide guard

Dude low ladder just spams spore once TR is up
They don't give a fuck about goggles or grass types they are sporing those too
They read one guide on how to play one team into any matchup and refuse to deviate
And the guide did not say spam decorate, it said spam spore
it also probably didnt mention you can just follow me glacial lance turn 1 too
if you face stuff like ursaluna teams
or even mirai teams
Of course not, you have to click trick room turn 1
Either fake out or follow me, plus tera fire, plus trick room
Works every time
oh yeah bruial you know what mon gets better next format?
Oh?
ditto
What's better than 2 restricted? 3 restricted

its because you can almost always gurantee you copy a restricted now
That's dirty
ditto is a really good mon
but very skill based
thats why the highest ranking ditto player this format was probs joemama
The president?
Ah
Weezing dirty
you get a cookie if you guess the item on korai
LO?
nope
Band?
Ability shield?
yep
Ayy
Hmm, eq, order up, and... heavy slam?
Eq, order up, and wave crash?
one of them is incorrect
final try
Eq, Order Up, yawn?
Ooooh dozo gets that?
did you not see the tatsu forme 
its specifically used in the pink tatsu forme yeah
Ohhh
because it boosts defense
so you arent affected by intimidate
parting shot cycle
Very nice
its a very good mon yeah
but sometimes you have to bet on 80% accuracy
the idea is
wolfey said korai incin amoongus flutter has good matchup against almost every restricted in the format
and lando bolt is for matchup spread
also lando beats iron hands 
your biggest fear
my cousin beats ursh
Hands is a fear only when I play pagos
especially since most common item is mystic water and most common tera is tera water
also amoongus beats too
since you know
rocky hemlet
rage powder
Yeah amogus beats URS
you might play specs timid flutter
and maybe pao instead of lando
have to theory craft the team but not rn
could even be chi yu instead of incin
and oger instead of amogus
3rd wonder pick, 3rd whiff. I got 2 rattatas and a machop. I hate wonder pick. I just wanted the nurse joy 
Not gonna waste my hourglasses now
There's an event coming up so I am saving up for that
Stress over, time to read an essay
Guilty lol
Ouch Bruial

Lando is support ight
New Island new Drip (i literally went broke buying these
)
No bling, yeah
Also sis refused the request, I’d have to try go out by myself so far away 
With no experience prior 
bro I've been doing from my village to city ever since I was like 16-17 or sth
you'll be fine
(its 11 hour bus ride plus like 1-2 hour walk on hills)

You should know that I recently notices Im similar to Leon lol
No sense of direction
I'm very bad with directions too
that's not an excuse

just use google maps
or ask the locals
I always ask the locals if I'm unsure
there's like zero harm in asking
Locals, so people busy with shopping 
I mean they wont mind
for sure
I dont think I've ever met anyone who hasnt been nice and given me direction when I asked
and I've been to both india and here
you're just too shy
technically been to bangladesh too but I didnt have to ask anyone a direction because I was there for a event and they already guided us
:p
I wanna say visit Malaysia but nothing fun here lol
its also too far
could be

still breathing room left right lol
also mb I was watching Nintendo Direct
I'm vaguely interested in getting it
But I don't think there's anything that pushes me to get it on launch
yyeah upto 13th
silksong and bloodborne 2

man team grunt is very sacky
As if I haven't gotten enough tilt from Misty lol.
so the leaks about new switch 2 games coming out at $80 were right
Ig I'm not playing pokemon games on launch anymore
roaring moon
I play violet
iron valiant
Yea
Are all legendaries shiny locked in SV?
ask zane
Also considering just buying a legit copy of gen 9 when i get my switch 2
Isnt hands deadge now?
its very popular in mirai teams
its the preferred fake out user in specifically mirai teams
I like incin tho because its utility
but hands is very good as well
what happened
That in 2025 all first party games cost 10$ in latam than in na/eu
Sv is 70$ here now
how much is it in US
ah
I think you're just fucked if you dont live in europe nowdays imma be honest
Btw bolt help me decide smth
sure
Do i get the switch 2 at launch, on sale, or with the zaza bundle?
We dont know because it doesnt exist
I just assume they'll make one
Altho the mk9 bundle is 500$
Idt you need to buy it on launch tho
is there any game you really wanna play on release
they are charging for the totk switch 2 upgrade btw
I am aware
bottomless greed
Hmm lemme see
My violet save file was stuck on the fairy star base because all my steel and poison types passed the level cap
And revravroom is broken
oh are you playing nuzlocke
By playing it? Idk what you mean
oh does it
Yea
And i had no checks for cornerstone of all things
cornerstone is kinda hard because she gets a def boost
so you cant one shot with fighting type moves
no
ZA funniest game oat
Ok good
bloodmoon might
No way they made ||Mabel the professor||
but bloodmoon is generally run a bit fast
Bloodmoon cant breed?
no
Tf
its a non legendary legendary
people were like tf when all legendaries were banned but bloodmoon wasnt banned 
Good thing i havent done the quest line yet then
do try to get 0 Speed yeah
and 0 atk
0 atk is more important over 0 speed
just a reminder
I meam tbf Blood Moon is canonically a 1-off dude no?
So it makes sense you can't get multiples
Actually wait
I realized that i need to buy pla if i want anything from that
Since i need the home checkmark
just get a friend to give you mons
canonically it swam the seas and reached kitakami and evolved into bloodmoon beast
The gen 4 cress incident 
Also i do like making teams in game
The process is fun
Well, used to be at least
Nowadays you dont really need rng manips and breeding
I was looking at future paradoxes
and why are they so shit
it feels like they made em shit because miraidon is so broken
and past are broken because koraidon is so mid
the iron hands in question
its literally just hands
I remember building a HO usum team on cart to pass time
Was fun
it is
and ig iron crown
what 140 base fake out does to a mf
yeah drain punch brrrrr
Bundle got banned, val is good
best paradox in doubles is my cousin
second is probs moon then hands
oh wait second is flutter
thats like 3/4 past mons
hands is only ever used alongside miraidon
yeah I'm pretty sure they have the exact same rep
else incin and rilla both are better fake out users
this was last tour
ig moon dropped
Wait
damn same rep
Can you get the gen 8 starters in blueberry academy?
he got hands
I think so yeah
I dont want to buy swsh dog
Also damn dark shifu dropped off a fucking cliff
dark is most only in trick room teams now I think
not really following current anymore
yeah
or sun
caly hard tr likes dark
because it plays torkoal
same with korai
Why?
Boltbeam is eternal ig
physical special attacker
boltbeam
caly can setup trick room against faster teams
both are top 2 restricted rn
starting may
Ah
Altho, i'm also thinking of picking up singles again
Now that roaring hitler is dead
gambit still lives
The dark type isnt an issue vro
wtf does ting lu even do in singles
Hazards
rocks?
Bulky pivot
ah
Ruination does stuff sometimes
wanna guess what it does in doubles
Clicks fissure
Alolomola isnt so bad actually
in singles?
Yea
isnt it ou
whirlpool flip turn
Nah
Yea
ig you can run either scald flip turn wish protect or scald flip turn 2 attack av
I think the most interesting part of singles is like half the mons play as mixed attackers
you could never do that in doubles
Mixed val is soooooo nice
Wait i actually need to play SV UU
Tinkaton and weavile rose up
Lokix solos 125% of the format now
Did lokix not solo weavile?
The thing about weavile is that it was competition for the same role
It alongside gren
Made people extremely incentivised to run dark resists
Ah
How easy you want it to be
Does not matter
Yes

Depends on the situation
If you are going for Grookey, best you stay in one place, easier for the eyes and your eyesight
Oh this Zane didnt know the kind of luck he got with these yet 
Your odds get better if you have Outbreak, but assuming you dont wanna bother resetting the outbreaks for the monke, try the spot in the video
Walking around an area is like if the mon you re looking for is all over the place and assuming you re not anxious whether a shiny spawned behind you and you despawned it not knowing lol 
Picnic reset is my prefer method but each reset takes like 10 seconds wasting a bit of your sandwich
I kinda wanted a shiny that stood out more but was comp viable
Slightly-yellower-rilla is kinda meh
Idk havent opened the game since november
Flashy shiny I wanna say Dondozo but god save yourself from the hell that is lake of lags
I wish i could shiny hunt miraidon 
What colors you like?
Blue pory2
Restricted mon format tends to do that 
Oh yea
Zaza is coming
But also, every mon that is getting a mega in zaza is also obviously in zaza
So
A bit of a timewaster
Its probably outbreaks again
Ooh corv could be nice
One sec lemme look at the vgc charts
Are the old legends also shiny locked?
Like, tornadus
Also lmao flying machines has some variety now but we got Iron Jugulis 
You mean PLA? Iirc yeah
SV, no they dont have all, they kicked Gen 6 legendary, guess why lol
Come get your Kubfu 
Zane
Before Bolt says anything, I did failed a run during last night Nintendo Direct lmao
Is raging bolt shiny locked?
Yes
FUCK
The one mon that Bolt wanted me to get lol
I understand his struggle now
This shit has 31% usage
Uuuuuuuugh
I'm gonna shiny hunt amogus i guess
Or whimsicott
Is it version exclusive with Lilligant
Finally
Hunting Bellibolt is kinda High effort mid reward isnt it
From the view of shiny hunt, maybe dont hunt with Tadbulb lol
Hawlucha had a bit score recently right???
Palossand good shiny but no comp scene…
Gastrodon honestly kinda meh shiny
Bellibolt is pretty shit
Hawlucha has performed well in the past IIRC
Bro itsg half of the gen 9 dex is shiny locked wtf
You can run it with, like, Electric Seed and Undburden alongside Miraidon to murder shit
Polteageist maybe???
Basculegion maybe???
Hawlucha gets coaching, encore, quick guard, and taunt on the support side
And for offense it gets HJK, CC, Acrobatics, and Brave Bird. So you get to pick a nuke button to run on it while still having some nice support tools
But I'm p sure there are better options
Best answer, Incineroar lmao
Pretty easy hunt too
You see a white furball in a grey mountain top in a bunch of black furball
It looks nice if you set your standards lower lol
They couldve invert the colors lmao
Pretty sure Smash Bros did that
The third one
That one looks so good 
@fading stratus would you mind set example teams to the three choices you ask me to pick??
yes here's korai

I like how you felt Im feeing towards Koraidon lmao
I kinda realised that korai flutter is insanely good
Ofc Landorus is the one here that can be shiny but I dont have it yet lol
these 7 teams are probably the ones I'd finalise
just gotta choose which core works the best
Guess Im going jurassic 
Still gotta figure out how I get there exactly lol
what do you think @spice rivet I kinda thought too much
I see merit in almost every core
Honestly, its so hard to choose
I lean towards anything with Bolt in it too, the AV sets with Thunderclap have been saving my ass for a while
yeah bolt is a really strong mon
but so is ghold
tera steel make it rain on specs does like insane damage
Also, not to throw more ingredients in, but Banded Entei with Sun goes hard
I dont really like inaccurate moves
I'm even iffy about having wisp in incin
Honestly valid
entei plays like atleast 2 inaccurate moves
thats why I didnt want power whip yesterday
Teams 3 and 4 from your list are the ones I feel are best
As much as I like Bolt, Ghold is nice as a fairy resist
from the top or bottom
Im sure Groudon with EQ works 
From top
Oh right friendly fire exist 
yeah these 2 are defo pretty solid
Also Grass Terrain specifically powers down Earthquake lmao
Wait why so specific
its just how theyre built
The ground shakers
like electric terrain specific prevents sleep
I though Grass was just heal lmao
Earthquake was a somewhat good move even in Gen 5, so it was a "nerf" introduced in Gen 6 with terrains
Also, I see the logic. If the ground has vegetation the roots will hold the ground together better. Thats my logic to it as well
Ig Grassy Terrain nerfs ground shaker moves because of the roots keeping the ground sit still
grass
boosts grass type moves
halves eq bulldoze and magnitude
heals 1/16 every turn
psychic
prevents priority moves
boosts psychic type moves
boosts expanding force by 1.5x
electric
boosts electric moves
prevents sleep
misty
prevents all status conditions
halves dragon type moves
does not boost fairy/water type moves
Ye
Wait, I thought Expanding Force just got double targetting, I never realised it also got an extra boost on top of that
Til
yeah it gets boost too
Cracked
Question, if Misty was set before hand and Flame orb Guts mon comes in, what happens
flame orb doesnt trigger
if its already burned it doesnt cure
same with yawn
if its yawned it doesnt fall asleep if you set misty terrain
Ig people will let it out turn 1
misty terrain doesnt have a good setter rn
so not really used much
its just to override other terrains as a move but manually setting terrains isnt that great
oh yeah Zane I'll make you both teams
with similar EVs
you can test if you like raging bolt the best or ghold
I'd really like it if pocket would give me my 2nd god pack already
oh yeah btw zane a fun thing you can do
if you go
you can name 6 mons as 6 of people here

Who will I be 


Well you have to be Raging then 
yeah I HAVE to
you know why?
because its illegal to name a mon with a name of different mon

Who am i then?
Summer has to be FlutterMane then 
WHAT EDGY PHASE
Wouldnt that be Yami lmao
Who doesnt 
there's only koraidon left
idk put bruial
zane have you captured bolt already
tell me you havent
Make me ogrepon because I'm the youngest 
I did 

what a shame
bolt wants 0 atk IVs so it woulda been cool to 0 IV hunt
its fine
No that was like two years ago
...I don't wanna talk about it man I was NOT a good person
How many counts of murder
I cannot confess to crimes in a public discord server
Fair enough, altho you didnt deny it
I was afraid you re worry about that ngl lol
its fine dwai
farigiraf commonly plays foul play as its only move
Shit
it can play a second move too
but what do you think is better
foul playing or using pitiful special move on a AV mon
fourth move is basically hyper voice/psychic/roar/Twin beam/psychic noise/tera blast
Rock Ogrepon has gotten way more KOs than I ever expected it too tbh. Love that little fella.
Like, I never actually realized it outspeeds and does 75% to most Lando-I
lando I goes to 181 max right
I dont remember. I've kinda been going purely off of vibes for speed calcs these days
oh its 168
Like up until Reg E I used to know all the relevant ones
I think we should atleast make zane a speed tier doc
100%
of all the relavent mons
Also weird item/ability/tera interactions
yeah
And also in the Speed since itll be relevant: What things are outsped in opposing TW by booster Flutter, and what Koraidon can outspeed with opposing TW + Icy Wind Speed drop/increased Speed
yeah
I think -1 timid korai outspeeds sash chi yu
or well not max speed
so stuff like that
not sash but covert cloak/safety googles
Also, in a bit I gotta show you a hard read I made that paid off stupidly well
sure
I'll ping you possibly tomorrow
well the day after tomorrow for you probably
for moves and item theorycrafting
like whether to put cloak tera dark in amoongus
or tera fairy mental herb
sth like that
not specs but the funniest amoongus set I've seen is sash amoongus
with leaf storm
I think it was like max speed max spA
I just find it funny how bad they threw.
if they parting shoted you might've even lost
yeah idk why they took the risk
what hp was flutter at
Full pog
oh then they just threw
I think the only KO they got was my Ogrepon because Mold Breaker goes around Sturdy and with the sun they OHKOd it
NO SHOT IT OHKOS
EVEN IN SUN
It should do like 50% no?
even to rockpon
in non sun
so like around 75%
I cant remember if it was a crit.
oh around 50% was with the tang ogre
But ya, they were Korai + Jumpluff, I Kod there Jump after it set TW, and this was the last turn of TW for them.
So like speed chart? 
HOLY 
I had to pick this as the answer, do I wanna be right or do I want the funny, ofc I want the funny 

Stacked morning pack
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I wanted to animate their pokemas scene but colouring in flipclip is a bit...... hm.

RESHIRAM!
Fluffy...
Ngl Bianca pulls off the Hilda fit
Even in EU things aren't exactly nice
oh eu is absolutely fucked too
the whole word is when you have an orange monkey at the wheel


Oi, this is unacceptable
Orange monkeys are adorable
not that one
He is the annoying orange
Bro wtf the sneak peek event in pocket is not guaranteed
Scam event for wonder scam. Of course.
new item is broken

Although a couple of teammates and opponents were bots
Sword dance bullet punch, a tale as old as time

I spent half of the time having to get the Gengar off me
Luckily he had sludge hex...full heal stops the poison, hex no longer has a 0.2 seconds cooldown, gengar is left looking like an idiot for 6 seconds
For anyone wondering -
Set is 6 brown badges for attack, 5 black badges for cooldown reduction
Battle item full heal to avoid CC chains into an early grave
Items: energy amplifier (you need cdr), attack weight, and the new item
Have fun spamming punches and sword dances
Ideally for the set you run 7 black badges and 6 brown buuuuut...
Yeah badges are a pain to farm
You will save yourself
Partially lol
Training arc time
Proposed I go alone to parents, ‘one of them’ wont budge unless they go too
Noticed the fact its not them not allowing me to go, they only ask to be around there, feeling easier knowing Im safe
Took that 2 way deal on the spot
Funnier if said training was to shiny hunt the team but I think it’s pretty much done already

Blame Koraidon and Raging Bolt okay, actually no, Blame GF

I'll start making you a team tomorrow
only thing you need to hope now is hope you get the lottery if there are too many people
prayge
else we'll make you ready for the tour
Lmfao, after all the hyping myself to do it

it was written in the website I linked
you just didnt read

but asian tours do be like that
due to venue capacity
Not all of it lol
I think this tour will be bigger than last one
because its swiss this time
last time there was all single elim
Also me not wanna believe it actually got that many people
Welp
last time 64 people qualified and only 41 attended
so you'll likely get in
dw
This one just the lottery then
lottery but they had a qualification tour
RNGesus has that habit of hating me tho 
where top 4 got guranteed registration
Whens that
Ohhhhhh that thing Wolfey did to get in back then
like november
the one which I wanted you to attend last time
41 players attended that tour too

idt there are more than 41 players in malaysia
who go to events
So little people attended 
At this point they should allow other ASEAN to participate
philliphines singapore thailand and other countries have their own tour too
I want you to top 12 zane if possible
dont sweat it but if you top 12 I'd be more happy than you
you know why?
because top 12 get worlds invitations
It’s basically you who won 
So its really that, not just to watch it live 
they probs will live stream day 1
but I dont want you to appear in stream because it's your first tour and being in stream is probably way too much pressure for you
Idk what Ill do for Worlds, I have responsibilities lol
even if I dont want em
Bold of you assume I didnt stressed enough before even going in

just hope you dont get paired with like Gary Ng, Kevin Ngim
Wait why they likely stream Day 1? Not day 2??
no I meant like they'll probably start streaming from day 1
no i phrased it badly
Guess yall gonna see me doxed
Sorry to disappoint 
Right, less what ifs, more team prep
Which of these gonna want 0 ivs??
Amoonguss definitely but anybody else?
amoongus flutter bolt/ghold
what do you want
bolt or ghold
we can go with either
both teams are very solid
idk how they saw this stat and thought "oh yeah that seems fine"

ghold is also super min maxxed
Kinda fairy weak
Not 3? Lol
whats the third
Inci and the dragons
Oh right
there arent really that amazing fairy types in the format anyway
best one is flutter
and even that isnt as common
I still need ho oh and aerodactyl
Flutter prefers Dazzling right
your team wont have dazzling
Wish I could trade stuff for an equivalent medal
only thing I'm torn about flutter here is whether to play a offensive tera or defensive tera
if we play tera fairy as offensive theoritically it could have gleam
but I'm unsure about that rn
No I mean Enemy Flutter
they could but you'll get to see their team before battle
Right
be sure to read all their moves properly
and tera
this was last tour and offensive fairy type is lacking
Im gonna visit the Wiki a lot for the next 2 weeks lmao
I'll request yozz to train you a bit against a multiple teams
if possible
since I dont have a switch
Actually yeah, Im surprised we dont get Shifu
Oh god 

