Pokemon

[fading stratus]

farig works

lemme think the pros and cons

[normal cave]

Do we care about rilla/mirai?

If no, farig. Otherwise, Indeedee is worth considering

[fading stratus]

probs indeedee is more valuable yeah

since it can prio block anyway

then we remove ho oh and add lunala

and play psyspam

[normal cave]

https://tenor.com/view/this-this-is-glorp-this-is-glorpshit-gif-5930131520514232711

[fading stratus]

fun fact

I spent the entire morning looking for a good gravity user

couldnt find one

best choice is like

lando

but I dont wanna double up types

do you know why bruial?

[normal cave]

Precipice spam?

[fading stratus]

well thats one part

but there's another

[normal cave]

Accuracy boost?

[fading stratus]

||Lunala gets hypnosis||

[normal cave]

Oh fuck

[warm sky]

@normal cave

[pseudo goblet]

32 bit furret walk

[normal cave]

Necrozma gets Gravity...

[normal cave]

[fading stratus]

necrozma is a restricted

[normal cave]

Yes, do we run DW?

[fading stratus]

shadow shield is way better than prism armor

[normal cave]

But Necro has gravity

[fading stratus]

yeah but like it needs to run gravity then hypnosis

then you;ll onky have 2 moves left

[normal cave]

Hmmm

Sandy Shits?

[fading stratus]

basically my criteria was

1. be a good mon
2. not be a restricted
3. be faster than lunala and groudon
4. no type overlaps

[pseudo goblet]

What you been eating?

[normal cave]

Sandy answers everything but 1

Oh wait it has ground

[fading stratus]

sandy answers only 2

lando answers 4

3*

[normal cave]

Cardboard

https://tenor.com/view/neckmeat-cat-neckmeat-neckmeat-cat-cardboard-cat-cat-cardboard-gif-24148192

[pseudo goblet]

well Ive literally been around gundam group long enough to know that aint the weirdest like sniffing plastic dust

[normal cave]

Pory2 learns it

Sableye has it with prankster

And a dark type

But double ghost

[fading stratus]

yeah but sableye might be the way

[normal cave]

Metagross gets it

[fading stratus]

psychic overlap

[normal cave]

True, same for farig

Meowstic has it with prankster, but psychic

[fading stratus]

i dont like the sableye cant do damage

but it'll have to do

[normal cave]

No FP?

It gets FP

It also gets disable, fake out, quash, mean look, snarl, taunt, twave, wisp, encore, helping hand, throat chop, and feint

Holy shit this mon is customizable af

Even gets metal burst for the sash threat

If you want to kill it you need to double it

[pseudo goblet]

@sterile verge @fading stratus loots from Mezastar today

I like this version of the arcade quite a lot, MUCH faster pace than Ga ole

[normal cave]

Wait if you run sash you need to double it anyways

But you don't need covert cloak on it because its immune to fake out

[pseudo goblet]

Originally each cabinet is singular

Now its 2 cabinet connected, rare chance you get a 6 star mon and you get to fight the mon with your partner

definitely carried on my neighbours luck, he literally pulled the Ultra Ball and said 'now theres actually a chance' and we won

[fading stratus]

hey win is still a win

@normal cave this feels so bad
only 2 protect in team and 3 tera fire but I cooked

https://pokepast.es/0cf803acf60e446a

[pseudo goblet]

starting this version with 2 black cards 🤩

I got ones from Tretta and 2 from Ga ole AROUND the time both at their retirement

Bolt me and Zama just isn't a thing

ended up with Zacian this time

[pseudo goblet]

I should use this team

[fading stratus]

bruial will test it and we will make adjustments accordingly

then you can play it

[sterile verge]

[fading stratus]

I'll make you one with only shinies dw zane

[pseudo goblet]

lmao

[normal cave]

Dual Screens

[fading stratus]

well screens are good

[pseudo goblet]

3 days of rest and I havent done much lmao

[fading stratus]

do you think I cooked bruial

[normal cave]

I'm still taste testing hold on

[pseudo goblet]

well tbf, consider it cooldown from the rush of goodluck with DA recently

[normal cave]

That Raging Bolt set is kinda sexy

Hmm, no indeedee or trick room?

[fading stratus]

you have tailwind

so its fine

[normal cave]

Mirai and Tapu Monke are still mons

[fading stratus]

if you play trick room

you probs play farigiraf

[pseudo goblet]

tapu monke??

[normal cave]

Rilla shits on us

[fading stratus]

it gets gravity

[normal cave]

Grassy terrain shits down precipice blades

[fading stratus]

its only earthquake bulldoze and magnitude

[normal cave]

Not all ground moves?

Huh, we don't care then

[fading stratus]

no what

[normal cave]

Misty is all dragon moves

[fading stratus]

well thats because misty also doesnt get a offense boost

fini was designed to be a defensive mon

[normal cave]

I thought it boosts fairy

[fading stratus]

it does not

it prevents all status conditions

and halves dragon moves

thats it

[normal cave]

Oh it boosts misty explosion

[fading stratus]

[normal cave]

100 bp explosion who designed this move

[fading stratus]

gf

[pseudo goblet]

Mezastar copied Tretta(not as good) with the labels on the side

I spent too many just on these, how tf you complete this whole set

[fading stratus]

be rich

[normal cave]

Okay so, thoughts:
Only 2 protect is kinda iffy
Raging Bolt set is hot, maybe consider draco meteor over pulse but that depends on calcs
Do we need light clay over sash/mental herb?

[fading stratus]

draco meteor is fine but you probs wanna stay for a long turn spamming moves especially with screens

you dont need mental herb because youre dark type

idt you need sash either

you should survive atleast 1 move as long as you max out your bulk

light clay is way more valuable I feel

[normal cave]

Icic

[fading stratus]

I did calc it still dies to electro drift even under screen

but I still think you kinda need clay

you can play sash in torn tho

I just like cloak/rocky helmet

[normal cave]

Not sure we outspeed shit with tailwind tho

Do we even want Torn?

[fading stratus]

why wouldnt you outspeed stuff

only thing that you wont outspeed is +1 timid flutter

or other tailwind stuff

[normal cave]

Other tailwind stuff is my concern

I think we want tr on lunala

[fading stratus]

idt you have slot

moongeist beam only means you get walled by pretty much anything

[normal cave]

We probs don't, no

[fading stratus]

if you wanna play tr just scrap up the hypnosis idea

and build a new tr lunala team tbh

if you fear being slow

you can run scarf chi yu

over ogerpon

[normal cave]

It's not that, I'm trying to pick the team apart for theory

Trying to challenge anything I don't quite get

[fading stratus]

well if you play tr same problem arises

you cant underspeed tr teams

[normal cave]

I don't like bleakwind, even if it is correct

[fading stratus]

so 🤷

[normal cave]

We can't outspeed tailwind or underspeed tr

But we can do both when needed, in theory

But our best bet is probs screens, yeah

[fading stratus]

its a balance team you dont even need that much speed control in the first place

[normal cave]

Just live their stuff

[spice rivet]

Ho-oh Groundon since the compliment each other more than Koraidon Ho-oh imo. Groudon deals with Miraidon.

Lunala Terapagos could go hard

[fading stratus]

I dont like that both are special attackers

[spice rivet]

Fair

[fading stratus]

I personally prefer 1 physical 1 special restricted

unless one's pure support ig

[normal cave]

Like hooh

[spice rivet]

And now I need to find the best Solgaleo team

[fading stratus]

solgaleo lunala

yveltal would probs go decently with solgaleo

but it doesnt exist

people have historically played solgaleo with caly ice ig

[spice rivet]

No more Dynamax Weakness Policy shenanigans unfortunately

[fading stratus]

yeah

but you can still bulldoze

[spice rivet]

There was a team I used in SwSh that had Scarf Groudon to use Bulldoze to trigger the WP while slowing the opponent down. That was a funny team.

Not good, but hilarious

[fading stratus]

peam team

unfort I didnt play much of swsh

so i dont know much strats

ho oh gets bulldoze

so does korai

just saying

probs korai works if its max speed timid

you dont need scarf

[spice rivet]

Also, I wonder if Zacian will pick up in usage as a "nuke in the back" option

[fading stratus]

zacian complements really well with some stuff

like fish

Swordfish might see play again

it was the second best archetype last gen

just after rinya sun

[spice rivet]

Swordfish (SV, 2025)

[normal cave]

Ah yes, the miss fish

[fading stratus]

I hope SwordFish wins atleast a event

its such a cool duo

the first tournament this format is VR's april challenge this weekend lets see what does good

[normal cave]

Honestly, I thing groudon mirai could work

They kinda deal with each other's threats

...I think?

[fading stratus]

well yeah that was obvious

I just dont like groudon

because once again 85% accuracy

[normal cave]

That's why we run gravity

Could also run a lens on it just because

Disrespect Incin

[fading stratus]

-1 252+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Incineroar: 138-164 (81.1 - 96.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

lol idk if you call that disrespect

max atk groudon doesnt even kill no bulk incin

at -1

[normal cave]

Well ok then

Could you run LO?

[fading stratus]

you probably dont run any other item not named clear amulet

[normal cave]

Oof

Btw how do the calcs look vs bulky mirai?

[fading stratus]

maaybe you can run AV

[normal cave]

Nah leave that on Bolt

[fading stratus]

you should ohko

mirai

unless its max bulk

[normal cave]

I was wondering if we could get Don to hit harder

[fading stratus]

if its max bulk itdoesnt do sdamage at all

[normal cave]

Who, don or mirai?

[fading stratus]

mirai

252+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Miraidon: 186-222 (89.8 - 107.2%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

it almost ko's 252 hp mirai

[normal cave]

That's a gamble then

Wish we had cherrim to guarantee the ohko

[fading stratus]

the gamble is precipes blades not missing

no mirai should be 252 hp

[normal cave]

We run sableye for that reason

[fading stratus]

no you dont

like I said gravity isnt a good move

it was just my cope

that I made

[spice rivet]

Gotta bring back Gravity Sandy Shocks lmao

[fading stratus]

did you see the team I made yozz

the lunala groudon team

[normal cave]

Gravity eliminates the genies too

[spice rivet]

Not yet

[fading stratus]

https://pokepast.es/0cf803acf60e446a

the biggest problem honestly is that sableye sucks as a mon

I wanna just run grimmsnarl here so bad

but it doesnt get gravity

[normal cave]

I don't like Grimm

Dual screens bot

Boring ass mon

[fading stratus]

what if we played

ninetales

single screens bot

scarf ninetales

[normal cave]

Atails?

[fading stratus]

yes

[normal cave]

Are we kyurem gamers?

Cause Loaded Dice Kyurem kinda hot

[fading stratus]

I mean

if youre on kyurem

you'd be on the other one

well with ninetales

[normal cave]

Kyu-W?

[pseudo goblet]

The DLC doubles as studies to how Lacey thinks about her pokemon apparently

[fading stratus]

yes the red kyurem

[normal cave]

Why?

Blizzard?

[fading stratus]

yes

[pseudo goblet]

Also bolt, do all trainers in this video have Snorlax in their team?

[normal cave]

Ngl blizzard spam under veil kinda hot

[pseudo goblet]

Blizzard still 100% now under Snow??

[normal cave]

Ye

Spread move with a chance to freeze

Broken click

[pseudo goblet]

cool(realize pun midway)

[sterile verge]

April fools yea

[normal cave]

Probably need to run bulky kyu to take advantage of snow and veils, no?

[pseudo goblet]

ahhhhhh

[fading stratus]

no

pink blue and green dont

neither do the ones in the pic

[pseudo goblet]

who?

[fading stratus]

the joys

I'd assume

[normal cave]

Uhhh, what do we run alongside kyu?

Sword dog?

[fading stratus]

hmm

[pseudo goblet]

figures, what about the actual trainer charas

[fading stratus]

lunala

[normal cave]

Kyunala

Wow that team name is ADORABLE

[pseudo goblet]

also btw I love this version of Jigglypuff theme holy

[fading stratus]

a less known fact is

Lunala actually gets tailwind

[normal cave]

Cetitan and Bundle?

[pseudo goblet]

Masters sure loves their Jigglypuff remixes https://youtu.be/rfxT72f93co?si=WM_pr3ImIl4i7Gtr

we need metal remix of the theme with Scream Tail

[fading stratus]

I fell asleep listening to this

10/10

why would you just double down on more ice types

except just 2

[pseudo goblet]

watch Bolt able to make a functional all ice type team lmao

what type is bundle again, Ice water right

[fading stratus]

this probs isnt the right format to do it

ice water yeah

it doesnt get a good water move

so you dont even run a water move

[pseudo goblet]

why was it water in the first place

[fading stratus]

it gets hydro pump

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-bundle-pokémon-scarlet-and-violet-indigo-disk-blueberry-academy-gif-8544848881906750955

[fading stratus]

but y'know hydro pump lmao

[pseudo goblet]

ye lol

awkward if it got Scald

[fading stratus]

if it got scald it'd be cool

[pseudo goblet]

image from google

[ashen barn]

https://youtube.com/shorts/eKpNezEqEdA

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/smprfms/status/1906704344042328418?t=JsXJw0SHn7ebrsHrvMLpcg&s=19

https://twitter.com/Kukuna27/status/1876940978973470803?t=RBNwVDFSfwVy0BWA_9Qkkw&s=19

https://twitter.com/Kukuna27/status/1902671891946414265?t=983gFGGGAyBJTzO0fGXtIA&s=19

https://twitter.com/Rising147/status/1906326123098820857?t=qhxV4Ad3SZrQSkTgWVCzdQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/Napopo3desu/status/1906140192479826237?t=VamDlpnOF96h1jNiPfYhxg&s=19

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X · Mar 31, 2025, 1:45 PM

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エルフーン / Whimsicott

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ドレディア / Lilligant

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学ポマのヒカリ（幻覚EX）です

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[fading stratus]

its peam

[normal cave]

[spice rivet]

Running manual Misty Terrain on Grim was so fun when I ran it way back when to wreck hard TR. They never saw it coming lmao

[fading stratus]

huh what does it do against hard tr

[normal cave]

Does misty override tr?

[fading stratus]

no

probably overrides psychic terrain ig

[normal cave]

Or blocks amogus spores

[spice rivet]

Override Psychic terrain so Arma couldn't spam Expanding Force, then they'd usually panic and retreat Indeedee and Id get screens up. Also stopped Yawn from Dozo too.

[fading stratus]

ah that makes sense

[normal cave]

P cool

[spice rivet]

This was like Reg A or B, so it was a decent while back

[fading stratus]

Specs flutter used to run misty terrain too

[normal cave]

Why they spamming E-force vs a grimmsnarl tho

[fading stratus]

back in the day

for psyspam

[spice rivet]

But then you'd spirit break into a Ape/Kingammbit and you'd hate life

[fading stratus]

because grimm doesnt do damahe

so you just kill teh partbers

[normal cave]

I see

[spice rivet]

On ladder people were dumb and would just spam follow me + Expanding force no matter what was on board

[fading stratus]

you firget that expanfding force gets 1.5x extra boost in psychic terrain

alongside the 1.3x boost

[normal cave]

@fading stratus I FUCKING TOLD YOU HARD TR PLAYERS MAKE THE SAME PLAYS

[spice rivet]

These days they dont as much since hard TR is less common

[normal cave]

Ohoho

It's THE 1200 elo team on smogon

Err

[spice rivet]

That or you just get hit with the Bo1 weird ass Tera/move

[normal cave]

Showdown

[fading stratus]

tera dark incin

knock off

[outer eagle]

damn Hala's level cap is so low
even with the exp share always off all of my mons are already 1-2 levels above him
oh well time to train up a secondary team ig

[warm sky]

Find Likodot fanart that I wanna ping Serena for
Realize it's a cover for a R18 comic

https://twitter.com/kina_h1/status/1906017409712189779?t=hlDinF5KCeMwQrWJx_GYzg&s=19

Instead uh @sterile verge

ノキ (@kina_h1) on X

カルセレ

X · Mar 29, 2025, 4:15 PM

[sterile verge]

[sterile verge]

The shading on this one is insane holy shit

[warm sky]

"oh cute they're holding ha-

"Hold on what's that tag in the top left"

"Oh... Ohhhhh"

[sterile verge]

There's actually a fan comic I saw that was printing physically (+acrylics and your other typical fan merch stuff) but I could not order it in time

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[fading stratus]

@pseudo goblet are you free during 19th and 20th

[pseudo goblet]

likely actually, why

live?

[fading stratus]

I want you to make some irl friends

[normal cave]

Oh it's still reg g?

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/marin-kitagawa-oh-no-yikes-scared-nervous-gif-11879494404279876802

[fading stratus]

a new reg is announced one month before the actual start

so thats why I knew today was gunna be reg I announcement

https://victoryroad.pro/2025-malaysia/

there's registration link

if you wanna

its fine if you dont wanna

[sterile verge]

Zane rq I need you to compete at a pokemon event I need the stamped cards yall got

[normal cave]

Owo we get to cheer Zane on

[pseudo goblet]

so what is this for, lower rank than Regional??

[spice rivet]

Oh shiiiii

[fading stratus]

if you get top 4 you qualify for worlds

[normal cave]

Smh Bolt you should have been training Zane

[fading stratus]

top 2 get travel compensation as well for worlds

[spice rivet]

Zane, you should totally go, we'll cheer you on

[fading stratus]

yeah I wanted him to go on last event too

but he was busy

[spice rivet]

Oof

[normal cave]

It's ok Zane we can practice with you

[spice rivet]

But hey, this time 👀

[normal cave]

I'ma show you some Dozogiri HO

[fading stratus]

yeah travel awards is like 5k or sth usd

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/munchlax-pokemon-sweating-sweat-sweaty-gif-18413484

[fading stratus]

or was it 2k

[pseudo goblet]

yall should know my biggest worry is me being busy

[normal cave]

Zane chill, you go there for fun to make friends

Not to win worlds

[sterile verge]

Zane you should go!!

[fading stratus]

you should still probs register tbh

well getting in is a lottery but i you go you'll make friends

and we'll cheer for you

travel awards is apparently 3500

[warm sky]

I won't

[fading stratus]

stinky

[normal cave]

Why

[fading stratus]

he's popularly known as yamistinky

no wonder

[pseudo goblet]

instead Im just doing shiny hunts, meaningless tasks or job lmao

[fading stratus]

I mean I'll make you a good team

if you decide to go

the only option is kyogre isnt it

err groudon

[normal cave]

Groudon decent into Mirai

[pseudo goblet]

I mean if its rush job, just fuck the shiny only rules lmao

[fading stratus]

scarlet right?

we can make you a korai team if you decide to go

[normal cave]

Korai

[fading stratus]

OR terapagos

specs pagos is also pgood

I realised after seeing bruial calm mind pagos might be too hard

[pseudo goblet]

yall know Ill be silent during the thing while wearing mask lmao

[normal cave]

Yeah CM Pagos is a pain

[fading stratus]

nah just interact with people vro its fun

[normal cave]

Why?

[fading stratus]

he's shy

[pseudo goblet]

pretty much lol

[normal cave]

Use this as a learning experience

[pseudo goblet]

also ya know, suspecting I have develop allery

[fading stratus]

I honestly think the poke community is good enough that they'll treat you well

[normal cave]

You're sweet, peeps will like you

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[normal cave]

What? I'm serious

[pseudo goblet]

my friend, legitimately everybody who knows me personally hates my gut on some level

bad attitude irl

[normal cave]

I used not to like you

But I got to know you better

And I think you're really chill

[fading stratus]

yeah

word

I think zane has really become my good friend while interacting here

[pseudo goblet]

kinda no choice seeing I keep @ yall lmao

[fading stratus]

oh boy I'm missing something

[normal cave]

You appear odd, and perhaps a little insensitive to people who barely know you, but idt that's true anymore

[fading stratus]

idfk what

[normal cave]

Balking Bake?

[fading stratus]

its not shiny

[normal cave]

Ah shiny

[fading stratus]

the answer woulda been ogerpon

if shiny allowed probs

[pseudo goblet]

oh hell no, insensitive hits the reddest part of the bulls eye

being here help me be better sure

[normal cave]

Yes, you got better at it

Significantly

[pseudo goblet]

just not transfer all that better to irl lmao

[normal cave]

You're fun to hang around now

[fading stratus]

HMM ZANE DO YOU HAVE A SHINY MILOTIC

[pseudo goblet]

a male one yeah

[fading stratus]

AND SABLEYE

[normal cave]

Scald Gaming?

[fading stratus]

[pseudo goblet]

a random encounter lmao

[fading stratus]

you know what it is bruial

[normal cave]

Zane gonna play balance?

[fading stratus]

Milotic gets hypnosis

[normal cave]

OH FUCK YES

[fading stratus]

[normal cave]

[pseudo goblet]

whats Milotic ability anyway

[normal cave]

Zane going to send people to Tilt City

[normal cave]

Competitive

[fading stratus]

very good ability

[normal cave]

Competitive demolishes Incin

[pseudo goblet]

uhhhh

[normal cave]

Hidden ability

[fading stratus]

marvel scale is a fine ability

but competitive is just different

[normal cave]

Marvel Scale is good, but if you have the option to run competitive in vgc you run it

[pseudo goblet]

oh right the sp atk version of that ability

[outer eagle]

rest talk milotic it's good trust

[normal cave]

Outside of maybe shadow tag

[fading stratus]

I cooked

or burned idk

[normal cave]

Dude gravity with precipice blades and hypnosis is dirty

[outer eagle]

it's always funny to revisit gen 3 sets and half the mons have rest talk as one of the sets

[pseudo goblet]

17 days, yeah Im not sure Ill hit shiny Lunala in time lol

[fading stratus]

you have groudon

dwai

you can only play 1 legendary here

[pseudo goblet]

thats still in Ultra Sun lol

[pseudo goblet]

oh really

[normal cave]

Fine line between cooked and burned, call it caramelized

[fading stratus]

alternate idea is

[normal cave]

Don is very good if you can hit your precipice blades

[outer eagle]

one can only truly cook when he himself is cooked

[normal cave]

Trick Room

[fading stratus]

yeah

did you know exeggutor gets chlorophyll

and expanding force

with 125 spa

[normal cave]

Or is that chloro psyspam

Oof

I think too many modes will be confusing, no?

[pseudo goblet]

I remember yall talk about it recently lol

[normal cave]

But

Let zane test

[fading stratus]

Its fine exegg is only fast mode

[normal cave]

Zane training arc time

[fading stratus]

because indeedee gets you TR mode

Idt neither of the 2 are particularly easy to play

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/dozing-sleep-nodding-gif-11362274

[fading stratus]

I'll think of something to the earth

[outer eagle]

exegg's base speed is low enough that even with max speed chlorophyll it gets outsped by scarfed latis iirc
been a while since i last checked gen 5 speed tiers

[normal cave]

So we are specs tera psychic eggs ye?

[fading stratus]

no sash

[normal cave]

Ohhh lati twins

Love those

[fading stratus]

zane what legendary shinies do you have

[pseudo goblet]

Ill gonna ask sis if she wanna drive me that day, I refuse to get a license even tho people tell me to lol

[fading stratus]

like me fr

[pseudo goblet]

Tornadus and Groudon

[fading stratus]

I should get a license

I HAVE A SCOOTER TOO

just not a license

what restricted mons do you have

[normal cave]

TORN LESGO

[outer eagle]

oh damn exeggutor was even slower than i remembered
chlorophyll max speed timid exegg gets outsped by max speed scarfed based 90s
no wonder it didn't do shit even in weather wars gen

[pseudo goblet]

the moment I get a license one of my boss will wanna send me to solve a customers problem, singlehandedly making me not wanting to another card into my wallet

[fading stratus]

zane how many of these mons do you have

[pseudo goblet]

Ig also giratina ho oh and Latios seeing I allowed myself to transfer GO shiny now

oh right I have Rayquaza too

[normal cave]

Rayray is kinda meh with no mega

[pseudo goblet]

4 with GO

[fading stratus]

its pdecent

[normal cave]

You can go tera normal espeed ig

[pseudo goblet]

only good one is Groudon

[fading stratus]

you need pao tho

can you get pagos zane

[pseudo goblet]

done

[normal cave]

Tina is aight ig

[fading stratus]

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/yawn-pikachu-captain-pikachu-pokemon-asleep-gif-1211960505671837977

[normal cave]

Ho-oh wants reg I

[fading stratus]

tina swept toronto locals apparently

I heard some good players talking about that

also it won a JP event

[normal cave]

I lost to Tina a few times

Shit hits hard af

[fading stratus]

we can actually try pagos

over korai

korai is too frail

[normal cave]

Kind of an unga bunga style restricted

Protect 3 attacks

[fading stratus]

yeah it cant run clear amulet either

so thats sad

[normal cave]

But it does hit really hard so who cares

[pseudo goblet]

Tora gonna have to come out of retirement lol

[normal cave]

Also, it gets fucked by incin anyways because ghost

[fading stratus]

zane we;ll have to do with a partial shiny team

[pseudo goblet]

tiger will wait a decade till they successfully nerd Inci

[fading stratus]

groudon probs isnt a good idea

because it misses

incin gets nerf every gen

[pseudo goblet]

I cool with that, dw

[normal cave]

Calyrex an option?

[pseudo goblet]

that, I will have to catch up Crown Tundra lmao

[fading stratus]

idt you can play this team or else I'd make a similar team

cant play as in its probably not as easy to pilot

[normal cave]

Pagos towers team

[pseudo goblet]

Comfey

[fading stratus]

you get a cookie if you can guess the azu set bruial

comfey is exclusively played in setup pagos teams

its a decent mon

hmm maybe you run a third item in pagos

I kinda havent thought about it

but its cool

[pseudo goblet]

still make no sense to me why Pokemon chose Malaysia of all to held tournament in lol

[normal cave]

Banded?

[fading stratus]

nope

[fading stratus]

most countries get their tour

malaysia singapore thailand

[normal cave]

Perish?

[fading stratus]

its AV 4 attacks

[normal cave]

Ah

[pseudo goblet]

Nepal?

[golden lance]

Ok zane, here's the plan to beat wolfey in 457 steps

[fading stratus]

most people dont even know pokemon games exist other than go

here

[normal cave]

So play rough, aqua tail, aqua jet, and flip turn?

[fading stratus]

aqua tail.......

[pseudo goblet]

thats a odd way to tell the man 'my friends likes your content' lmao

[normal cave]

Does it get wave crash?

[fading stratus]

its liquidation aqua jet play rough ice spinner

[normal cave]

Oh

[fading stratus]

guess it bruial

here;s a test for you

pagos only has 3 usable items

[golden lance]

Specs, specs, and specs

[fading stratus]

specs isnt really that popular in doubles

its mostly lefties

[pseudo goblet]

Normal Gem

[normal cave]

Specs, Leftovers, and... hmm

I remember seeing the third

[fading stratus]

I've said it a while back but pagos is the most italian mon ever

[normal cave]

But I can't remember what

Lum?

[fading stratus]

its ||power herb||

[normal cave]

Ahhhh

Meteor beam

[pseudo goblet]

Pagos is the meteor

[normal cave]

Ik Pagos runs Hyper Beam

[fading stratus]

I'm not even joking this is the highest ranking pagos team that tour

and second highest ranking

[normal cave]

Same team

[fading stratus]

its more like

there's no other pagos team rn

[pseudo goblet]

unlikely chance that I win a couple US dollars

[normal cave]

Korai clicking cc vaporizes the pagos tho

[fading stratus]

you'll have to go to US and play round 1 to get US dollars anyway bruial

[pseudo goblet]

1 usd is like 4 myr, yall do the math lol

[fading stratus]

you need to play round 1 to get travel awards

[sterile verge]

Fun fact the way this thing speaks sometimes it sounds like its saying [slur for gay people] instead of pago

[fading stratus]

but its 3500 so should fund your whole trip

[jovial goblet]

Could not resolve English data for searches: slur for gay people

[sterile verge]

Wdym slur for gay people isn't a ygo card

[fading stratus]

well your restricted doesnt have to favour super good into opponent's restricted

thats why its 4v4 not 1v1

I've literally seen shadow rider beat pagos

even if it cant touch pagos at all

[pseudo goblet]

I mean we have a KR song that keeps saying 'Puto' and I wont say what that means lol

[sterile verge]

LMAOOOOOO

I know what that means

[pseudo goblet]

songs a banger too

[sterile verge]

Well in spanish at least

[golden lance]

Its so annoying

The underwear jokes were already something that made ooo unable to be watched in public, then i need to deal with that shit on top

[mighty storm]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-gavv-kamen-rider-fight-fighting-henshin-belt-gavv-gif-4903492975940690100

ooh KR talk in Pokemon chat

[pseudo goblet]

and man with popsicle addiction lol

[normal cave]

Damn Pagos dropping the F slur like it's pride month

[pseudo goblet]

which is amazing seeing he can't tas...te... it... damn Im halfway there to become a Kamen rider monster

[normal cave]

Idk what you're talking about Scapegoat and Black Goat are cards

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-zi-o-heure-schwartz-ice-cream-gif-19226104

every Gen 5 ice cream mon lover/hater be like

definitely sides with Gen 5 object mon being more interesting than some of Gen 1 mon

[fading stratus]

@pseudo goblet

can you get urshifu

water one

[pseudo goblet]

Probably

[fading stratus]

https://pokepast.es/f25f311e9f30a3d7

still iffy on a bit

but this is a good baseline

3 shiny mons

3 non shiny mons

[golden lance]

Bolt imagine

Champions can let you rental every mon

Except shifu

[fading stratus]

lmao

[golden lance]

You still need to buy the swsh dlc for that dude

[fading stratus]

it doesnt even have to be every mon

just let rental like half the mons

they can even have prebuilt sets

[golden lance]

Mfs gonna show up with goodra offense in double restricted format

[pseudo goblet]

Not exactly

You can catch Kubfu with SV dlc and you get the item in auction apparently

[golden lance]

Oh shit fr?

[fading stratus]

yeah

[golden lance]

Damn

I need to play the blueberry story

[pseudo goblet]

Lmao

[fading stratus]

zane do you have a miraidon

no right?

[pseudo goblet]

Yes but kinda sus method

[fading stratus]

this is team 1

I'll make you a few

[golden lance]

Btw

[fading stratus]

you can choose

[golden lance]

Do yall think champions will even have 6v6 singles?

[fading stratus]

I can see 3v3

[pseudo goblet]

Tag team doubles please

[golden lance]

6v6 is like, the main thing showdown has going for them

[fading stratus]

showdown doesnt need to load mons from home

so like

[golden lance]

So if gf wanted to naturally kill that app instead of sending the ninjas

[fading stratus]

also showdown has all the tiers

gf wont have the tiers because they're fanmade

[golden lance]

They could let you set up tiers tho

[fading stratus]

I think showdown woulda died long ago if they wanted to kill

[golden lance]

Like how pocket has noex rooms

[golden lance]

Apparently gf reached out to them directly so that the pla mons wouldnt be playable early

A bit hazy on the details but like

[pseudo goblet]

I mean, so are the term Starter pokemon lol

Although you are right, instead we have ‘first partner pokemon’

[golden lance]

That's why stuff like luna took until after gen 9

[fading stratus]

ah

that makes sense

anyway adios I'm gunna go read this peam

I'll make you another team tomorrow zane

and EV up stuff

[golden lance]

Oh yea

[pseudo goblet]

Gn

[golden lance]

Isnt the term eeveelution used officially now?

[fading stratus]

YOU SHOULD SLEEP

I actually dont know

[pseudo goblet]

Tomorrow-Zane will hate me lol

[fading stratus]

anyway we made 2 teams today

[pseudo goblet]

I think so?

[fading stratus]

one;s shiny only another plays non shiny too

[golden lance]

Oh yea

Is the new regulation out?

[normal cave]

On showdown yes

[pseudo goblet]

Uh, I mean, Zane in 4 hours and after

[normal cave]

GO SLEEP

[golden lance]

Chat

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-tas-the-animated-series-cartoon-dcau-gif-4022547210190156068

[golden lance]

What if we locked and betrayed zane in the hyperbolical sleep chamber for 1000 years?

[normal cave]

https://tenor.com/view/yeet-bear-knockout-kick-adorable-gif-17809969

[pseudo goblet]

If I can keep my age unchanged and keep the experience, do it lol

With everything in my room

[golden lance]

Bro i wish kyurem wasnt so ass on doubles

[outer eagle]

i mean kyurem is pretty ass in singles as well

[golden lance]

Not really?

Decent OU + suspect tested

[outer eagle]

a box art legendary having to compare itself to OU level mons is already insulting enough

[golden lance]

Hey it could be worse

Zama legit almost dropped to uu at one point

[outer eagle]

hey at least zama is one of the best ou mons rn

and besides zama was one of the faces of bad box art legends

so that's not a bar to compare to realistically

[golden lance]

Base kyurem doesnt even have a box art

Same with that necrozma fraud

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/kyurem-pokemon-pokemon-bw-pokemon-bw2-ghetsis-gif-26094921

[golden lance]

Glaciate should be super icy wind

Spread move debuffs both by -2

[normal cave]

Bolt taught me about Blizzard Kyu-W

In Snow

Lead Atails Kyu, set up Veil, and fucking kill them

[golden lance]

Yea but like

If veil is up you already win with anything

Including 4 ice moves sheer cold articuno

[pseudo goblet]

Sad Ive seen many legendaries in cute artstyle but not Kyurem

[outer eagle]

smh that's far less based compared to snow cloak blizzard articuno

[normal cave]

I mean you need the snow more than the veil here

170 base spatk is kinda BS

And blizzard has great coverage this format

[golden lance]

Issue with the kyurems is that they're all just kinda worse honse

[normal cave]

Aye, true

They slow and frail

[fading stratus]

Boy I wish reshiram zekrom were like 130 speed

[outer eagle]

they fall into that awkward speed tier for a restricted

too fast for tr too slow for hyper offense

[fading stratus]

They fall into awkward speed tier for regular mons too

Decent speed tier for regular mons is like 97 rn

With ursh

Ig you can play TR

But every good TR restricted gets TR

Well "good"

Dialga palkia solgaleo lunala ice rider

[golden lance]

Istg i did a double take on the alolan legends being tr mons

Until i remembered that they were alolan mons

Everything is a tr mon in alola

[fading stratus]

Yeah I should add the third legendary there as well

Both necrozma formes

I should probs go to bed as well

[inland gyro]

MOONS BANNED FROM OU LEZGO

[golden lance]

OH SHIT FR?

Holy shit i no longer need a dark resist on every single team

[inland gyro]

i mean there's plenty of other stuff

but yeah no longer having to die roll and needing so many checks to its 5 sweeper variants

needing something to check both tera EQ or tera acrobatics was actual horseshit

and then other sets complicated it but those 2 being lmao don't pick a steel for this mon was so bad

hoping gliscor also gets banned because these 2 are genuinely horrendous to build for

[golden lance]

Yea gambit and darkrai are still a thing but it's manageable

[fading stratus]

Oh they banned moon? Lmao

[mighty storm]

meh

[pseudo goblet]

Ou shit I havent open my packs

Meh af but at least I got Iono

[viral ingot]

BRROOO

[viral ingot]

You got the Punch. And Punch 2.

[spice rivet]

A story about Trick Room in 2 parts

Also, I turned a Horse into glue

[pseudo goblet]

Dang everybody is getting a shiny card but me

[fading stratus]

WHAT EVEN WAS THAT WIDE GUARD FOR

[pseudo goblet]

EQ

[sterile verge]

[spice rivet]

All TR player take turns with whats left of the 1 brain cell

@pseudo goblet that latest video will be you at that tournament. Trust

[fading stratus]

YES

Zane will win

malaysian master ball league

[spice rivet]

Also, you want to know the most hilarious part about that TR player? He repeated that turn exactly the same the following turn, except I yawned the Indeedee and he refused to switch it out the whole game lmaoooo

Also also, forgot to mention, after I KOd the horse, the guy sent out disconnected lmao

[pseudo goblet]

I read that wrong for a sec btw

[fading stratus]

btw @spice rivet any glaring issues here?
https://pokepast.es/c9a7c0fecbace6f0

I made it yesterday night but it feels kinda like something is missing

I dont quite know what

for zane ofc

[pseudo goblet]

Assuming my sis has the time to drive me there, she kinda busy around that weekend

[fading stratus]

I mean one can only hope

just take a bus

[pseudo goblet]

At worst?? Probably go outside by uber or the all so terrifying train

[pseudo goblet]

Ye

[fading stratus]

I ALWAYS TAKE A BUS ZANE ITS NOT SCARY

[pseudo goblet]

I never did lol

By myself anyway

[spice rivet]

Not too sure tbh, it looks solid to me. Maybe moving Taunt from Ogre to another mon to fit in Power Whip?

[fading stratus]

I kinda dont like whip

because its 85

or else ursh would lose aqua jet for taunt

I wonder do you value aqua jet more or power whip

[spice rivet]

I feel thats acceptable tbh. I think having atleast 1 grass move is important

[fading stratus]

I also thought about taunt incin

with goggles

[spice rivet]

Ive had Aqua Jet come up so little for myself in the past

[fading stratus]

taunt incin with goggles then firepon

maybe

woodhammer is accurate too

[pseudo goblet]

In my defense, yall try behave unlike me with parent that refuses to let you go outside without adult eyes

[fading stratus]

also yozz

roar or psychic noise on giraf

Idk which is more valuable

psychic noise is ofc for annoying stuff like pagos mirror or brian hands or amogus

roar can force out stuff too

like setup sweepers

and such

[spice rivet]

Honestly, Im not too sure

[fading stratus]

I think nature is public

[pseudo goblet]

Btw would they livestream the malaysia qualifier

[spice rivet]

It is not

[fading stratus]

its asian tournaments

[fading stratus]

generally natures are open

[spice rivet]

Oh right

[fading stratus]

yep I was rite

[fading stratus]

they could

just not confirmed

I think they streamed last one

[pseudo goblet]

[sterile verge]

Zane you got this

[spice rivet]

Anyways, night ya'll

[fading stratus]

gn yozz

last question

korai balance or specs pagos

what do you think would be better

[sterile verge]

Specs pagos

[fading stratus]

Korai might be the way I'll let zane choose tho

zane motorcycle or turtl

if you choose groudon I'll make you 100% shiny team

[pseudo goblet]

One sec, stress time

[golden lance]

Thinking about how ash's kalos team was just 5 freeze dry victims and a pikachu

Also wait, zane is actually playing in qualifiers?

[fading stratus]

its nationals

not even qualifiers

[golden lance]

[fading stratus]

well I'm trying to get him to play

if he gets his spot

that's why I;m thinking so much for his team

[sterile verge]

MY BOYS

[sterile verge]

MY CHILDREN

[fading stratus]

I just want zane to meet new people make friends

he's too shy for his own good

[sterile verge]

Truw

Truw

True

Maybe I should sleep

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-birth-birth-thumbs-up-thumbsupping-birth-kamen-rider-birth-prototype-kamen-rider-proto-birth-gif-19336771

[pseudo goblet]

Well sOrRY for having the crab zodiac

[fading stratus]

my zodiac is the goat

[pseudo goblet]

Capricorn??

[fading stratus]

it comes up different according to whatever montly stuff y'all do but we base our zodiac based on position of moon and stuff

its Aries the goat

[pseudo goblet]

Oh lol

No offense, forgettable zodiac

[fading stratus]

I just dont really care much about zodiac honestly

if you do month wise how y'all do it becomes gemini iirc

because I'm may

[sterile verge]

THE MOON

[pseudo goblet]

Okay Im finally relax now in my lunch break, lets see

[pseudo goblet]

Which one easier to use lmao

[fading stratus]

should be close enough

[pseudo goblet]

I wanna ask which one better but I prob perform better if its fools proof lol

[fading stratus]

well pagos is generally just protect the tower team

while korai uses sun to support its teammates

[pseudo goblet]

Realize Im one mon away from complete this team and ofc its the star of the show

[fading stratus]

star of the show was hawlucha

basically zane

the tradeoff is

terapagos gets a spread move

koraidoesnt

[pseudo goblet]

Starstorm?

[fading stratus]

thats the only move youre clicking 99% of times

but the biggest problem with pagos is its a tera hog

[pseudo goblet]

[fading stratus]

3rd alternative is lunala

even if you have the non shiny

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/munchlax-pokemon-sweating-sweat-sweaty-gif-18413484

Wait, JUST Lunala??

With 5 normies

[fading stratus]

yes

like I said you can only play 1 legendary

this month

next month is when you can play 2

[pseudo goblet]

Which is what makes me surprise and its Lunala lol

[fading stratus]

tldr you dont have zama or mirai

and the honses

I dont like groudon or kyogre

because of the accuracy

so that leaves korai pagos lunala and zacian

dawn wings is technically playable too ig

but I find shadow shield more valuable than prism armor

[pseudo goblet]

Ray kinda mid with just it huh

[fading stratus]

you can play ray too if you want

its good in a very specific hyperoffense team

there's also eternatus

in playable

just not good

[pseudo goblet]

Eternatus can transfer into SV???

[fading stratus]

yes

ofc

eternatus is in the same tier as rayquaza

playable but not good enough

all it needed was a decent ability

if it had like sheer force it'd be insane

[pseudo goblet]

Eternamax when

[fading stratus]

like look at this

this is insane stats

only thing holding it back is its ability

[pseudo goblet]

Wasnt it suppose to be 1k+ bst?

Or is this base form

[fading stratus]

this is base

eternamax has like 1180 or sth bst

1125

[normal cave]

Trick room players make the same plays I fucking can't

[pseudo goblet]

Let me guess, Pressure

[fading stratus]

yep

even if it had like friend guard it'd be great

[pseudo goblet]

What Friend lol

[fading stratus]

thats the most random ability I could think of

[normal cave]

Nah friend guard good

[pseudo goblet]

Eternatus made the whole region its enemy lmao

[fading stratus]

do you know when pressure comes up?

there's a specific scenario where pressure comes up

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/eternamax-eternautus-gif-24785820

[normal cave]

There are 8 pp moves

[fading stratus]

yep exactly tera starstorm

most pagos only run that was attacking move

[normal cave]

So Eternatus counters Pagos

[fading stratus]

well setup eternatus sure

[normal cave]

Cosmic power

[fading stratus]

yeah cosmic power stall was popular last gen

in ladder

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/terapagos-pokemon-tail-wagging-adorable-gif-17894158948731040433

[fading stratus]

so zane choose

your choices are korai pagos and lunala

I'll give you like 3 days

to think about it

until friday

and zacian

if you wanna

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-scared-shy-hide-gif-11305932

[fading stratus]

I'll make a team for you that should be easy enough to pilot

regardless of the restricted

[pseudo goblet]

Ho Oh lol

[fading stratus]

I actually dont even know how to make hooh work

genuinely

[normal cave]

Ho-oh gonna go hard in reg I

[fading stratus]

probs not but it'll be better than it is rn

the thing about fire is that