if zama had a spread move it'd be my perfect restricted
#Pokemon
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EQ?
fading stratus
it doesnt get eq no
idt eq is good either
a spread steel type move with 100 bp would be cool
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It gets hyper voice and dazzling gleam 
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bruial a trivia if you know or not
did you know beheemoth blade and bash arent actual moves
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I had to look up what behemoth bash does, and found out it's just iron head
fading stratus
yep
I was as surprised when I found out too
another trivia ig
did you know there are a few gen 8 mons which get actively worse when dynamaxed
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yes dracovish line
there's also monke
if you dmax honse you lose the spread ig but i wouldnt call it actively worse
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Why monke? Grassy glide?
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Ohhhh
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dynamax ignore all effects of choice items and gorilla tactics
oh hey 2023 worlds vid finally
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https://youtu.be/OvTyI0YiHLI?si=Bl-Vq85HnNaLKY5W
@sharp kernel didja watch it
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eviolite rhydon would be pgood in a low powered format
kind vortex
eviolite+lightning rod is what you use it for, ye
fading stratus
yeah
it also has a very deep movepool
and like very good attack stat
apparently it gets helping hand
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https://twitter.com/celmiu/status/1897486506627096704/photo/1
https://twitter.com/celmiu/status/1897937128933540104/photo/1
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sterile verge
Awwww
kind vortex
i think i might have overprepped this one
i was expecting it to be annoying but it turned out pretty free
outer eagle
well it's a matter of perspectives
it only feels free cuz you had sufficient prep 
having things go according to plan is a nice feeling
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https://twitter.com/celmiu/status/1897486506627096704/photo/1
https://twitter.co...
Bnuuy...
That's the way to evolve a buneary, make it happy
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https://tenor.com/view/valerie-pokemon-gif-24851060
I feel like we'll see most of the XY characters
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cuz if it takes entirely in Lumiose City, we may or may not see the outer gym leaders
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cuz if it takes entirely in Lumiose City, we may or may not see the outer gym l...
No because the tease at the end of the trailer
That was probably some kind of tournament
Which I feel like is how trainers from outside lumiose (and possibly even outside kalos) are gonna show up
mighty storm
Maybe?
sterile verge
Tbf it does say "promotion match"
Remember how PLA had the rank system?
I feel like this'll be the equivelant
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I wonder if we will see Valerie in ZA
I hope she fulfils her dream of becoming a Pokemon
I absolutely loved Valerie. She felt unique among gym trainers.
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@fading stratus thoughts on this rain team?
Seems heavily teched for Mirai. Shame they got bodied by yolo Dozogiri
Trick room water spout toise was kinda cool
Their Raichu chunked Dozo pretty hard, but died to one EQ while their Ogre died to 2 EQs. After that, Dozo just healed up any damage they could do.
obsidian juniper
kind vortex
HUH
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Its ok shooting is hard 
warm sky
https://twitter.com/pika_yomogi_/status/1898003323024031798/photo/1
https://twitter.com/haruxxe/status/1898354257277108439/photo/1
https://twitter.com/tonight___862/status/1898370009984094382/photo/1
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@sterile verge
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That's a normal response yeah
The real question is how does Greninja take a bite out of that galette with its tongue sticking out?
warm sky
The real question is how does Greninja take a bite out of that galette with its ...
ninjitsu art of chewing
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outer eagle
as opposed to ninjutsu art of mewing ofc
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2315338214-ljac6p2ufhrhcg9p6hmgfl2gg60w378pw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2315335490-i9bhv9ikigeceot6cl7k3qe2hkgabrfpw
@fading stratus the speed on Miraidon finally came up 
Chi-yu tho...
Btw am I pinging you too much?
viral ingot
Holy crap! My first Crown Rare!!
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vagrant steppe
I don't even have a second Arceus ex yet
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2315468596 first win vs Koraidon, they did not stick for the full match
They tried to go for Mausape shenanigans but their maus got vaporized. Could have probs killed ape and preserved some health on Mirai
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Why does she got a bandaid on her head
sterile verge
She's stupid
last musk
Clinically idiot
fading stratus
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2315338214-ljac6p2ufhrhcg9...
Hey I'm glad it came up
On that first replay it was a pretty good call on your part to volt switch the ditto
Instead of gleam
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<@703113512901410858> thoughts on this rain team?
Also itemless Kyogre.....
The team's funny ig
they probs were like "how's this guy winning speed ties"
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I just realized the rain team's amogus has effect spore. Yeah, defs forgot to change shit in teambuild
pseudo goblet
I don't even have a second Arceus ex yet
I dont even have one 
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wanna try a different team
Maybe another time, I need to sleep
fading stratus
aight goodnight
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But it'd be a great way to learn
I do really love this team, and I am trying to learn the format using it
Gnight man 
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I do really love this team, and I am trying to learn the format using it
gotta learn what each restricteds do amirite
sterile verge
How are ogrepon and urshifu not restricted wtf
fading stratus
ogrepon would be a bad restricted
and you probs wouldnt play shifu either
if it was a restricted
vagrant steppe
DLC priviledge
sterile verge
But they're both broken???
vagrant steppe
DLC priviledge
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also like just powercreep
this gen pokemon has been really high quality
just look at paradox mons
and last gen
vagrant steppe
Pokemon powercreep is BAD
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its been almost 10 years of incineroar
well more like 8
and like 15 years of amogus
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my poor attempt at drawing a shellos on gartic phone
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@pseudo goblet remember?
also thats a pgood pic
I'd guess shellos or gastrodon
pseudo goblet
<@430667447692034059> remember?
I do lol
Still my best art without any shape-assist
pseudo goblet
God the Helheim fruit was torture
Oh right I forgot to say, found the last Smoliv to conplete the line earlier
Okay so I understand ZA battle mechanic better now, your pokemon dodges by you moving around, and your pokemon follows you
Imma assume that means move dont have accuracy now
pseudo goblet
I think we established Im a very future-event-afraid person
pseudo goblet
Less time doing stuff cause busy-er and sick lol
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holy I just got recommended a wolfey highlight reel posted by THE OFFICIAL POKEMON YT CHANNEL
they're just farming him at this point
pseudo goblet
Pokemon should hire him 
pseudo goblet
Oh the narrator?
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casted as in caster
the 2 people who commentate on games
basically commentators
pseudo goblet
Arent those the same thing
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yes
I think wolfey probably wouldnt cast a lot of events
because he'd want to play
and casters can't play on the event they cast
pseudo goblet
Less time doing stuff cause busy-er and sick lol
Less nice name for it is anxious btw
Dw, I allow myself to be anxious mostly, helps prepare for unexpected
pseudo goblet
they buffed stone edge in ZA
pseudo goblet
Let me guess, Power Gem
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power gem is special stone edge is physical
they dont remotely accomplish the same thing
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no
pseudo goblet
We re in the 30% now baby~~
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what dis
pseudo goblet
Boxpoke national dex for my shinies
included the gender form because hippowdon and unfeazent exists
Maybe I should include battle-only forms, notice recently the filters I use dont have Meloetta dance form and Morpeko hangry
okay but then why no Black/White Kyurem and Dusk/Dawn Necrozma forms, those arent forms you can only get during battle are they
Sidenote, okay Irida definitely look like May in this art
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fun fight
took a few attempts to come up with a viable line and actually had something go my way, so that's neat
pseudo goblet
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pseudo goblet
holy I just got recommended a wolfey highlight reel posted by THE OFFICIAL POKEM...
ashen barn
Given how my last game was a 5v1...yeah?
I might be a decent overbuffed Gengar, but I'm 1 versus 5.
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latent sleet
thanks game
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https://twitter.com/Wolf_okami_T/status/1897573201653158082/photo/1
https://twitter.com/FloaMeya/status/1898000681732321772/photo/1
https://twitter.com/walabemoti2/status/1896839999477387742/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Aoi845707138133/status/1896515636156928314/photo/1
https://twitter.com/yukiminoideyu/status/1898405331610575130/photo/1
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https://twitter.com/Wolf_okami_T/status/1897573201653158082/photo/1
https://twit...
Not the cone of shame 
Also, Espeon looks so happy
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my sister said when we vs each other box legendaries are fine, gonna hit her with a koraidon sun team lmao
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miraidon is probs better tbh
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she has violet
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play max speed timid korai to catch her off guard
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is it usually adamant?
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meant as in usually ran as adamant
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I'd think so yeah but I dont really play singles much
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but yeah can abuse the paradox mons but also chlorophyll and chi yu atleast
why is miraidon much more broken than koraidon since i know its in AG?
fading stratus
well for starters korai doesnt get its secondary typing (fighting) a boost in sun
inland gyro
oh its because miraidon gets a double stacked boost from its setting?
fading stratus
electric terrain + hadron engine is vroken yeah
also electric dragon is better typing than fighting dragon
inland gyro
so if i play into DLC prob gonna be: koraidon, chi yu, flutter mane, roaring moon, great tusk and ogerpon lmao
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you can play pagos too
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Electric terrain also stops sleep
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well amogus isnt as popular in singles like doubles
inland gyro
wait why play terapagos?
inland gyro
i was gonna say that would also counter synergise
fading stratus
eh it also takes away their e terrain so its fine
inland gyro
oh ok
prob won't get to terapagos atleast at this point just about to finish main story
btw you seen OU may ban roaring moon and gliscor?
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Again?
inland gyro
yeah, shock horror turns out still problematic
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Roaring Moon kinda good in doubles too, but as a utility mon
fading stratus
it'd be funny if they banned moon again
inland gyro
fucking please
its so annoying
they're both being considered for the same reason which is that they both have 2 common sets that have different checks and they can just shit on you if unprepared for the wrong one or make you have to 50/50 guess
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https://twitter.com/fUa1HeyvOt4Ifsr/status/1897235166172721580?t=Koin8BRTAfNeHTblAJSTBQ&s=19
https://fxtwitter.com/hoshigumo_72/status/1897052362877100072?t=exs1HksmO6X1Ea1prOr_WA&s=19
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I actually love the idea of that being where they have have their megastones
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Gladion can have either Mega Lucario or a mega Kanto starter
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Lillie has no viable mega pokemon, but she has a team of purely support and fairy pokemon, so mega Audino
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houndoom
Yes but Gladion has a Lucario and a Kanto starter already
And he doesn't seem like the kind to swap Pokenon
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3 of his mons need friendship to evolve
He merely looks edgey, but his team is friendship themed
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That's his SM team, and even then he has 3 friendship mons
Crobat Lucario and Sylvally
He has 6 mons in USUM
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well not like sm gladion is david and usum gladion is gladion
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True
But the common theme between his teams is 3 friendship mons, one of which is mega viable
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He merely looks edgey, but his team is friendship themed
Yeah he's canonically designed to be a middle schooler going through his edgy phase lmao
fading stratus
how much is the mc
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11
MC is canonically 11
They straight-up tell you you are 11 in-game
Literal child
outer eagle
i mean to be fair it's not guaranteed
kids that turn 11 are allowed to attempt the trials, but since we just moved to alola it's possible we're older 
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They couldve just say hes Chuunibyou <:KEKW:622347587516628993>
I mean it might've been what the original Japanese said
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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So maybe 13-14
13-15 based on japanese middle schools
pseudo goblet
Oh I meant the translation team
The original mustve say chuuni
outer eagle
smh gladion just has hand issues and peeps are mocking him
warm sky
which makes sense, 2-4 years is a normal age gap for siblings I'd say tbh
pseudo goblet
||try 9 lmao||
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(and then there's Cynthia who's sister is like a teenager and according to the tera leak she's like 28)
which - wild that no media ever does anything with Cynthia's sister or ever brings her up
Her grandma? Sure we even got a counterpart in PLA with Cogita
the sister? nobody even remembers she exists
pseudo goblet
(and then there's Cynthia who's sister is like a teenager and according to the t...
… coincidence with my message above
outer eagle
never knew cynthia has a sister
pseudo goblet
Tho that would mean Cynthia and her sibling are at least 11 years apart
outer eagle
also samson oak is the most random character ever
pseudo goblet
also samson oak is the most random character ever
Nahhh, that spot goes to Grand Oak
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… coincidence with my message above
double checked, Cynthia is 27 according to the tera leak. But I want to remind you that this being a leak thing means her age COULD have been changed
it's not her official age
it's her originally intended age
Look at Elesa
she was originally meant to be a teenager
just a really tall one
warm sky
never knew cynthia has a sister
she's like a minor NPC you can talk to in cynthia's town
outer eagle
"yeah bro professor oak has a brother all along and he looks EXACTLY like him but tanned, and he was never mentioned by anyone and stayed in alola for years despite not being born there."
warm sky
she goes "wow my sister is so cool"
basically
She uses the lass sprite iirc?
So teenage girl
pseudo goblet
double checked, Cynthia is 27 according to the tera leak. But I want to remind y...
I mean yeah, Steven kinda in his 30s since the last time he appeared in game
pseudo goblet
Remember seeing people saying Steven age a bit in later games
Like DP or BW
Imagine leak saying Alder is in his 30s or 40s
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Imagine a leak saying Lusamine is over 40
outer eagle
that aint a leak 
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||that's the joke||
outer eagle
||i know||
pseudo goblet
No need actually watch the video, posting to presenting my source https://youtu.be/QX8-jq7_mgw?si=OgzvXQBghmStoCTs
pseudo goblet
how is he mid 30
Apparently he was already 25 in RSE
warm sky
tbf I think one of the funniest things about the teraleak was Wicke's husband. Because like, obviously it's probably not canon
but it seems originally the idea was the idea that
Wicke had a much younger husband
who loves to pamper her
pseudo goblet
Guy estimate at least 5 year
warm sky
HGSS takes place 1 year after
Gen 1/3
We know Gen 1/3 and gen 2/4 happen at the same time
BW2 & X&Y also happen at the same time
pseudo goblet
tbf I think one of the funniest things about the teraleak was Wicke's husband. B...
Shes taken 
Shes Lusamine’s assistant right
warm sky
Shes Lusamine’s assistant right
yes
warm sky
Shes taken <:UmaruCry:594791362461696020>
I mean teraleak is dubious canon
outer eagle
well more like faba's assistant ig but close enough
pseudo goblet
well more like faba's assistant ig but close enough
Didnt they reverse role after anime lol
warm sky
Anything non-physical can be ignored
Or else we have to believe that Faba ||sexually harasses the women in the Aether Foundation||
outer eagle
i mean...
pseudo goblet
No need actually watch the video, posting to presenting my source https://youtu....
Sidenote, this ytb is proper weird lol
Calling Metagross his waifu and calling Steven his father in law
outer eagle
i wouldn't be surprised if he does that
pseudo goblet
i wouldn't be surprised if he does that
We should shove him into one of the ultra wormhole
I say Xurkitree’s place
outer eagle
gameplay wise we couldn't go anywhere but the wormholes
but irl you can probably just drop in the middle of nowhere
and get stranded forever in empty space
swift jasper
ash used tackle
outer eagle
ash used headbutt
swift jasper
same braincell
swift jasper
pseudo goblet
Solar is a psychic type
outer eagle
so a nerdge
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@fading stratus found a Dusk Mane team
They got super tilted when I clicked heat wave and burned their dusk mane turn 1 game 1
pseudo goblet
Smeargle 
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And then predicted them to tera dragon their dusk mane and went tera fairy dgleam game 2 because that is what they did game 1
outer eagle
understandable tilt tbh
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Yeah game 1 was understandable
Game 2, however, they did the exact same thing they did turn 1 game 1 and expected me not to adapt.
outer eagle
click heat wave in top 4 of a regional and it'll miss both targets into an opposing crit 
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As in, indeedee follow me plus tera dragon necrozma trick room
pseudo goblet
Bruial should join regionals 
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click heat wave in top 4 of a regional and it'll miss both targets into an oppos...
You missed the game where my heat wave missed a tera grass volcarona 3-4 times in a row
And I still won
outer eagle
tera grass volc seems unusual
well i guess to avoid amogus redirect
then again volc has heat wave so why bother 
pseudo goblet
Or avoid rock or water
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then again volc has heat wave so why bother <:frogethink:1310302725527044106>
So you can click quiver dance and not get spored
outer eagle
i suppose if you run giga drain volc then it makes sense over tera water
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dusk mane is just bad sadly
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Also to beat Miraidon
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dusk mane is just bad sadly
I know you used to run a dusk mane team so I pinged
outer eagle
people still get caught off guard by volc's bulk occasionally
fading stratus
they should be on heal pulse instead of healing wish too\
pseudo goblet
Gen 10 introducing new Quiver Dance user
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They used healing wish as a switch button for some reason
outer eagle
we already got frosmoth
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While they were under trick room
outer eagle
even if it's bad
pseudo goblet
They have been making a moth/butterfree mon for every gen right
normal cave
Ye
outer eagle
butterfree?
where i'm from it costs 5$ a can 
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They were just too tilted
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Bruial should join regionals <:thmile:1232062078500601978>
I don't have a switch
fading stratus
butterfree is sadly just a bad vivillon
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Also, what Regionals will Israel have
pseudo goblet
I don't have a switch
We still gonna have Champions
outer eagle
if even ygo can have isreal regionals vgc should manage
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Oh damn Israel actually has comp players
pseudo goblet
Oh god all the official events suddenly triple in contenders without the console limitations
normal cave
maybe israel has locals idk
Israel is usually grouped with Europe
pseudo goblet
Because of Champions
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But yeah Israel has regionals
outer eagle
we are assuming a lot here that champions will become a reg replacement
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Still, I have a strict "no money on videogames" rule, so no switch for me
pseudo goblet
these are all the asian tournament
Bolt gonna call me to watch something during april
outer eagle
if it's not 100% accurate
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If it's not 100% accurate it's 50% accurate
pseudo goblet
Its 50%
fading stratus
thats why I dont like less accurate moves
I'd never play chi yu either
myself
pseudo goblet
okay we have a lot of mandjtv fans apparently
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My chi-yu has 3 inaccurate moves 
outer eagle
he is like top 5 biggest poketubers
fading stratus
isnt it 4 bruial
outer eagle
pretty hard to not know him
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Dark Pulse is 100
fading stratus
oh dark pulse yeah
pseudo goblet
he is like top 5 biggest poketubers
Top 1 hottest poketuber
normal cave
Eh, Overheat came up
pseudo goblet
Im not the one who made the statement
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Wolfe is hot. No clue how mandjtv looks
outer eagle
smh where's my top 5 coldest poketubers tho
pseudo goblet
outer eagle
he is also the most confused
pseudo goblet
Michael watched a lot of Thomas Sanders
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lunala
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https://tenor.com/view/im-just-confused-michael-groth-mandjtv-mandjtv-plays-this...
Yeah he's hot
outer eagle
smh and here i thought it was lunatone
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I still think Wolfe is hotter
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looks like luna topped its first tournament
pseudo goblet
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Who that
fading stratus
its michael as well
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Why does he look so young here
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pseudo goblet
Age
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Yeah Wolfe clears
outer eagle
shame that the soul link content scene is practically dead rn
those were always fun to watch
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https://tenor.com/view/alpharad-you-tuber-youtube-gif-27269555
Owo who dis
fading stratus
looks like 4 kyogre are X-2 bets on how many will top
fading stratus
Owo who dis
alpha male
pseudo goblet
shame that the soul link content scene is practically dead rn
Just as I post Alpharad
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He kinda cute tho...
pseudo goblet
outer eagle
looks like 4 kyogre are X-2 bets on how many will top
they will all miss origin pulse and bubble
fading stratus
one round left all they have to do is not lose
pseudo goblet
Okay there no Austin John Play gif in tenor
outer eagle
by tera grass and boomer i think
fading stratus
How are Ogre players beating Mirai
because you play bad players
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because you play bad players
Well true, but I am also a bad player, so it should balance out
fading stratus
this for example is a kyogre player he beat 2 mirai lost to 1
outer eagle
keanu
fading stratus
tbf bruial
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this for example is a kyogre player he beat 2 mirai lost to 1
Wait a sec I know that Korai team
fading stratus
balance requires more skill than hyperoffense
pseudo goblet
Almost wanna find those vid of Michael doing spicy ads about soap
normal cave
balance requires more skill than hyperoffense
fading stratus
balance is more about pivoting and keeping the advantage
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So you picked a good beginner team for me to learn the format
fading stratus
hyperoffense is delete turbo
fading stratus
So you picked a good beginner team for me to learn the format
more or less
outer eagle
smh what about stall kidge
normal cave
Very nice
fading stratus
also mirai is so broken that you can afford to make mistakes
if you play unoptimal restricteds one mistake might mean a loss
if I make a second team for you tho bruial I'd make you play more of B tier restricteds
than miraidon
outer eagle
the most forgiving restricted is cosmog cuz no matter how much you fuck up or succeed you lose either way 
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I just realized they have a chargabug team
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if I make a second team for you tho bruial I'd make you play more of B tier rest...
That's fair. So not Honse or Mirai.
Terapagos? Korai?
outer eagle
gamefreak and putting cool/unique abilities on not fully evolved mons
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I'd love a new team recommendation
pseudo goblet
Idea, hold item that purposely does stat debuff
pseudo goblet
Imagine what it could do with Contrary or Gyro Ball
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Macho Brace
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idea: held item that gives you +30 in every base stat <:yeetbrain:78056699230984...
Mega Stones be like:
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these are all the restricteds you should reasonably prep for
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Korai has been my worst MU
outer eagle
that one timmy redditor will swear you have to prep for mewtwo
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The two honses are also pretty tricky with good players, but Korai consistently wrecks me.
fading stratus
pseudo goblet
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Mostly because idfk what it does
pseudo goblet
https://tenor.com/view/tontaro-gif-3048281443964625812
Bruial ^
sterile verge
They straight-up tell you you are 11 in-game
Joint youngest mc
outer eagle
time for vore
pseudo goblet
time for vore
Twice
fading stratus
outer eagle
best way to beat koraidon is with a stick 
pseudo goblet
Okay I cant find the other one
sterile verge
is like ethnicities
Ah ok so Iris is arab 
normal cave
I did play some rain in Singles
fading stratus
oh yeah bruial
warm sky
Ah ok so Iris is arab <:okbuddy:1310294748505837659>
yes
fading stratus
did you like singles more or doubles
pseudo goblet
idt your team fits pelli
Sandstorm or snow?
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Doubles
outer eagle
i like how pokemon has fictional regions with fictional names and then there's the african dex entry
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Both are fun, but Doubles is slightly more fun
fading stratus
Sandstorm or snow?
snow is better than sand
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I love the faster format and best of 3
sterile verge
that's canon to me
Me too 
outer eagle
ttar showing its age
normal cave
format is a bit slower when power level is lower
Not 40 turns slow tho
sterile verge
i like how pokemon has fictional regions with fictional names and then there's t...
Tbf that was early pokemon wierdness
pseudo goblet
fading stratus
Not 40 turns slow tho
nah slow as in more like you dont lose immediately if you make a mistake
normal cave
Oh that's good
outer eagle
i mean vgc lends itself to that speed tbf
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Smaller teams and more damage going around
normal cave
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-pmd-pokemon-mystery-dunge...
But Iron Thorns is one of the nicest Paradox mons 
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if last format repeats I'm making you play this
pseudo goblet
GameFreak’s fav fighting, Dark and Ghost trio, which ZA starter is gonna get which this time
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normal cave
Ah
outer eagle
i still have memories of gen7 ou regenerator swapping between torn-t, pex and tangrowth for 20 turns straight
warm sky
if last format repeats I'm making you play this
post world we prob doing champions tbh
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its basically goodstuff teams
normal cave
Looks like a p decent team
normal cave
its basically goodstuff teams
Ah that checks out
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champions will probs be like weak format for the first few formats
normal cave
Anihilape is what set?
normal cave
So the bulk up rage fist stuff?
outer eagle
idk since champions has all the gimmicks it might be too high powered instead
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coaching close combat rage fist taunt/protect
normal cave
Ohhh
pseudo goblet
idk since champions has all the gimmicks it might be too high powered instead
Separate event
normal cave
Btw, which one of the B tier restricteds do you advise I try first?
outer eagle
mfw when i tera flying z-dragon ascent mega-rayquaza in natdex format
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pagos
normal cave
Pagos looks fun yeah
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this is what standard bloodmoon balance looks like but I'll be real even if you like sneasler I don;t like it
outer eagle
when you use sneasler it's underwhelming
when your opponent uses sneasler
you hate your life
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sneasler is too rng yeah
normal cave
I do love sneasler, but it's dire claw gambling
Dire claw sleep into gg
Or dire claw no proc into sad
outer eagle
now that i think about it has overqwil done anything
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idts
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it has better alternatives
warm sky
Me too <:PoyoyoThumbsUp:902236831398125578>
also speaking of ethnicities. I still find it funny that Penny is biracial.
outer eagle
intimidate, decent typing, decent bulk
does nothing anyways
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decent? that;s an insane typing
warm sky
movepool doesn't give it much to do
normal cave
One weakness
outer eagle
what about my man drapion tho
normal cave
what about my man drapion tho
Giant knock offs
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yeah probs
normal cave
Tera flying overquil could cover its only weakness
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you probs play tera water
outer eagle
acid spray haze trust 
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i took overqwil in rad red e4
it was my second worst mon
thats my only overqwil experience
outer eagle
dbond is a gimmick in open sheets tbh
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also yeah open sheets make it awful
talking about bad mons
I was looking at articuno
pink one
Idk why we never tried it
it feels pretty fine
in pre restricted formats
normal cave
What set would you run?
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trick room freezing glare tera blast
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could also run tailwind
but probably not
tera ground probs
to beat brian lands
normal cave
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9 restricteds topped only one that didn't top was groudon
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yeah
normal cave
And like 4 other restricted have broken spread moves with 100 accuracy
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korai also doesnt have a 85% accurate move
normal cave
Ogre can run Spout
normal cave
Oh right mirai has gleam
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sprout is only played in hyperoffense ogre
but if we;re counting ogre
lunala also has expanding force
normal cave
So why run Don?
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because its cool
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if origin pulse was 100% accurate
kyogre would defo be 4th best restricted
might even be higher
normal cave
Opulse and Precipice being 85% is yikes
That being said, Pdon and Pogre had their time to shine in double restricted ORAS
normal cave
Nihilego 
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nihilego was a pgood mon
its funny that there are 3 of the same players in both cuts
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2022 format
Not using Calyrex/Zacian seems like trolling
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no sun was insane
you dont know how good zard was
that team was so popular people started calling it by the name of the person who made the team
Rinya Sun
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yep
normal cave
150 bp inflicts aoe curse
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Rinya sun was the single best archetype in the game
even if it didnt win worlds
rinya also only top 16'd man shoulda done better
normal cave
I bet gamefreak was mad Zard did not win worlds
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zard is probs the best mon which hasnt won a worlds
normal cave
Think korai zard will be broken in Champions?
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since you can import from home probs not
belive me or not
gf actually cares about balancing
miraidon is eating shit next gen
poor koraidon
normal cave
Who is best?
normal cave
Ah ofc
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guess the second best
normal cave
https://youtu.be/JNajdgDhJ8A?feature=shared
Torkoal kinda gas in VGC at least
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gas as in playable
normal cave
guess the second best
Honse?
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holy that song slaps yami
normal cave
Power herb geomancy?
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yeah basically
warm sky
holy that song slaps yami
Smogon Tunes is genuinely so funny (also tbf it's a donkey parody)
My favorite remains the baka mitai parody
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oh this one
xerneas was so broken bruial that people played scarf magic room lele
Do you know what magic room does
normal cave
No
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it basically ignores the effects of items
for 5 turns
so you ignore their power herb and your scarf
so you can use another move
warm sky
Lmaooo
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it was not even jank it was a valid strat
the worlds runner up team was on scarf lele
normal cave
https://youtu.be/aX_1s0-5-lo?feature=shared
This one is good
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yeah its pgood
also bruial you've only experience 1 format of vgc you have no idea how jank it can get
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do you want specs pagos or lefties
normal cave
Lefties
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lefties pagos plays buncha fun mons
normal cave
Specs Pagos seems more like the HO team I played
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aight
normal cave
Goal here is to learn multiple archetypes so I can be good at future vgc formats
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yeah that's a good idea
even if format isnt different
it teaches you playstyle
this is modern lefties pagos
this is traditional lefties pagos
normal cave
https://pokepast.es/61dda1796095e511
Woah
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and this is cool lefties pagos
normal cave
Tran, incin, and no waterpon?
normal cave
https://pokepast.es/61805ab151c35a31
G-Tres
normal cave
https://pokepast.es/fb7dac4778271128
This one looks like all-in on Pagos
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this is the standard team
thats been popular for most of the format
the "modern" team I posted was basically a team a buncha good italian players made
its like a month old
and is very good
normal cave
The traditional one looks like goodstuff with pagos
normal cave
The "modern" one looks like a towers turbo strat where you set up an invincible Pagos
normal cave
https://pokepast.es/d49ca9d2d97f16a5
Looks like a standard team core I saw elsewhere but with Pagos
The "Modern" one looks the most interesting to play because its so different
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yeah
normal cave
You need to protect the Pagos or you lose. You barely have other wincons
normal cave
I see, so Tran is there mainly for the Zama MU
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basically
normal cave
You trap Zama in?
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trap into encore diable
normal cave
Ohh that's dirty
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encore disable is insane
I watched a interview on marcofiero and he said most restricted can only hit you with 1 move and you can either disable it or encore it
you dont even need both
or was it wolfey
i forgor who said
but it was one of the two
normal cave
Yeah that makes sense, you disable body press and then Zama can't touch Tran
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I think more mordern build of the team plays tera fairy tblast
instead of stealth rock
you can probs play that
stealth rock is basically for pivot mons
especially incin
which will parting shot you
if you wanted zama I woulda gave you this team
@sharp kernel lunala top 8'd
sharp kernel
<@304354673647812608> lunala top 8'd <:icant:1310294700384714813>
It’s the guu
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sure
sharp kernel
It’s a Lunala Ursaluna team
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oh trick room
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bloodmoon?
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well you play roaring moon instead if you want speed control
calm mind lunala or meteor beam
sharp kernel
well you play roaring moon instead if you want speed control
Not a fan tbh, testing farigiraf rn
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its a bit outdated team but shouldnt matter in low ladder
normal cave
It looks insanely gas
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this is what standard zama looks like
so that team isn't anywhere near standard
nowadays
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do test a few teams
play whatever you like
do play the two teams for like idk 2-2 weeks
then we'll try the honses
normal cave
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normal cave
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2315935539 first match with pagos
This is g3
G2 I played like shit, focused too hard on clicking Encore
frosty ledge
I'd post the encore shitpost if it wasn't super effective on this server
normal cave
Not this time, you prankster Encored into a dark type
Have some gastrodon petting instead
frosty ledge
:O
sterile verge
Awwwww
normal cave
@fading stratus wow terapagos kinda eats shit to Urshifu huh
Can't even protect it cause unseen fist
Never noticed how much of a menace Urshi was on my HO team, but I kinda can't deal with it outside of Rilla Grassy Glide. And if they Urshi plus something to stop Glide like Farigiraf or Fake Out it's just joever.
normal cave
Bruh
normal cave
My winrate fell so hard playing Pagos that I ran into this
Yeah this is going to take a lot of effort to get good at
normal cave
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2316048232 @fading stratus @lucid moth behold the dumbest game of VGC I've played so far
Managed to win game 2 as well but it wasn't as funny
Also, middle eastern wifi moment
lucid moth
dont ping me in this chat
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<@703113512901410858> wow terapagos kinda eats shit to Urshifu huh
Against urshifu you just play the slow game
Tera shell is broken
normal cave
Doesn't urshi still absolutely murder you?
Anyways, I've been doing way better on Zama
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no.....
for urshi to beat pagos you need to priority chip its hp by sth
then close combat
priority as in faster
normal cave
Ah
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if you're that afraid you have pon anyway
pon IS faster than shifu
but yeah both zama and pagos teams ae kinda hard to play
thats why you dont see them more on low ladder
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which one idt I did
normal cave
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2316048232 <@7031135129014...
This
normal cave
Ohhh
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but its pure furry
normal cave
Hey, furry is fine by me
normal cave
It's not about the play, it's about the spore spam and the 26 turns
Game was a clown fiesta
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yeah..
I think they had a very safe double glacial lance but they double protected
in like turn 3
or 4
warm sky
https://twitter.com/mikakami1e/status/1898766451240288661/photo/1
https://twitter.com/ke_mo_suke/status/1898373216474968321/photo/1
https://twitter.com/sumi_fms/status/1896470601914532121/photo/1
X
X
X
normal cave
pseudo goblet
Jfc how was past me able to find Shiny Charcadet in the first place, them eyes are small
Found one, immediately after that
Oooooh, I need a female one, idc if it takes 5 male for one
pseudo goblet
… okayyyyyy different Shiny Coal, Shiny Rolycoly
I believe thats my first one
Not even on sandwich
@fading stratus Coalossol was one of the better Gmax ight
pseudo goblet
Okay nvm, found a female one, with a mark
pseudo goblet
Okay nvm, found a female one, with a mark <:fluff:418056358110298112>
Almost had a heart attack accidentally picnic reset on the shiny
Thank fucking god I saved, wasted 16 minutes of sandwich tho
This is a weird ass glitch btw
Shiny came back and start eating invisible berry, non, stop
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@normal cave didja realise that pagos isnt for you
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we still have more restricteds
play 2 weeks of zama then we can go shadow rider
hyperoffense shadow rider with mienshao
because its a weasl for you
normal cave
Oooooooh