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Lyra??
Yes
Mind you they're meant to resemble them, without being confirmed as being them
Though I feel Masters would pull the same thing as Arceus and not use the characters in their protagonist roles
And just use Taunie and Urbaine
Yeah lmao
She has a shorter version of Lyra's hair
I wish Z-A Ethan had more Ethan aspects. Because Ethan is like one of the best MC designs in the entire franchise
Yep
Also, definitely playing female protagonist again unless boys get good drip
Like how the hat looked like Premier ball anyway
Same thought after noticed Lyra and ZA girl hat
But hey, ZA Ethan remind me of Shotaro lmao
Just the hat
With a huge tower as a focus point yeah
Clearly this means one thing
Zygarde Gold Xtreme
Connection to earth
Speaking of Zygarde. What would you do if in order to get shiny Zygarde you had to shiny hunt both cores
Thought you were gonna drop into this 
this deck fucks y'all should try it
fyi the optimal eevee is the a2 one but he is ugly as a sin so I'm not using it
it is
but this deck is on only 5 mons and you want leafeon asap
adding in more basics would skew the odds
Also, continuous steps eevee is optimal for potentially cheesing wins
can't add more celebis bcs you never want to open it
so gts it is
once they add a decent grass ex basic we can get rid of both
deck doesn't use grass energy btw
only water
which is not an issue bcs leafeon gets you a grass energy every turn
it's garde if garde was a stage 1
if you get a good hand you get a 4 energy celebi online by turn 4-5
now imagine if celebi was a basic with a good 4 energy attack
leafeon only attaches to grass mons
Ah rip
but the deck is really good
just don't open celebi
if you do you can x-speed it away to not lose momentum
you can also x-speed leafeon if you open good with it early and celebi so you can just dump all of your energy on celebi
leafeon itself is not amazing but it's fine
it's as if it had a 2 energy 70 punch
as long as you don't brick on celebi this works like a top tier deck
I invented the first ptcg deck with a garnet yippe
Irida erika goes crazy lmao
Local onion and cat too wet to die
Oh yeah needle I reinstalled pocket to tryhard ranked 
also rather play anything over MD rn
I ws trying to find it but couldn't
(I forgot to save it)
Have
This tho
https://twitter.com/Giogiofx0083/status/1896698659347251472?t=WI7ci3c94HlNaAI8jhRqCw&s=19
https://twitter.com/baniragum/status/1896759596246860111?t=0vskduXJ6OZrMuqMhH7W1g&s=19
https://twitter.com/illustratchaco/status/1896503099608748063?t=uFAZyySBm10kPfsHFq37oQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/CHAPPIKA38/status/1896125763369492699?t=VLJ-mb4U5JR50oKH8m2BLA&s=19
Waiting for FangSkull
Exactly why I save the art everytime I death scroll, f for my phone storage 
Eevee 
Anyways, uh… surprised I can see the tiny pink flower on their head holy shit
How many random shiny does that make this 2 week
ranked is only coming in the end of the month
Funny cause I'm going to be playing MD again soon with the release of the tachyon cards
I'll make tachyon bystial control, but the format is miserable
No turtle
Horus got it banned
Enough time to get arceus
Yep, that's the game
tbf, catapult turtle has always been a problem card
but otherwise, yeah
https://twitter.com/Namekuj1hey/status/1890717698952466533?t=HWwS_JrKQmp-6EWMwTEUvQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/saai127/status/1896190704810168554?t=7hemygnzRMNpE7pI0q2bzg&s=19
been playing emerald imperium the last couple days and while some of the fights were really annoying, i guess my strat against tate and liza made it the freest gym battle of the game
t1 switch into rillaboom to get rid of psychic terrain and then the rest played itself
lopunny didn't even switch in and goodra only came in on the last turn to get incin out of there, so it was effectively a 4v6
bonus points for not using any of the ultra beasts or paradox mons i definitely could have brought to this fight
in contrast, brawly really fucking sucked to do; his team is loaded for being as early in the game as it is
but idk it feels like the later fights are a formality at this point
by the time you get to mossdeep you have access to all the paradox mons
and while some of the battles are challenging, i feel like rad red was more consistently difficult (which is funny since this game is directly stated to be inspired by it)
but we'll see how the final stretch of the game plays
oh also lokix goes super hard, love this critter
on the other hand, the mon i took as my starter, quaquaval, has felt underwhelming
even after it gets aqua step at 70, i haven't found a lot of room for it
if i need a water type, i'm usually bringing primarina
and now i have walking wake so that's another option
as for fighting type coverage, m lop goes without saying, but i've also been using iron valiant and a great tusk set that gets speed boost from protosynthesis
and they're all more self-sufficient than the duck
but even without them there were stretches where i just didn't use it
on the other hand, as in rad red, skeledirge is a god here, but only later on since it gets torch song pretty deep into the mid game
idek what i'm gonna take to the e4
but that's a problem for future me
I was playing it too but been busy last couple of days I'm only at like gym 3 lmao
I think you defo take like meow
assuming its protean pre nerf
meow is probably the best one, except i already used it in a rad red run and wanted to try something different
i think imperium is pre nerf protean
just take a empoleon

I did try cinderace in rad red and protean is just vroken ability
empoleon is assuming you can get the stone
want me to recommend you a mon
if you want to
||grafaiai||

it was decent in rad red iirc
it gets sketch
its just a bother to train
prankster spore is like batshit insane

yeah
Prankster delete a mon
Except grass and dark are both immune
Bolt does armor tail block enemy prankster?
yes
it should
as long as it targets your mons
That's fucked up
it's positive priority
yeah
tailwind should work ye
That reminds me
||BUT IT WASN'T ENOUGH||
You can prankster copycat trick room with riolu
prankster copycat is just not a good strat
No its not
riolu isnt a good mon either
you shouldnt be on riolu there are way funnier mons to play
oh right beating tate and liza got level cap to 80
so i can finally aurora veil a-ninetales
finally get to add it back to the rotation
i've had safety goggles on it for the longest time since my vest is on goodra
but ye
incin's just great in this game as a whole
yeah
Yeah, like switcheroo klutz AV Lopunny
Oooh
tailwind into wind rider lmao
well more like rogue
Whind rider
but it was still a strategy you needed to prep for
torn shiftry never went through tho

another of my fav funny strat was soak fini into rillaboom last gen
make stuff weak to grassy glide?
soak into wood hammer on grassy terrain deletes restricteds
also takes away stabs
is this scarf rillaboom or did people just not put speed into their restricteds?
it was just that noone expected that

you could also do scarf soak fini
with eleki
https://pokepast.es/355fd7aa7f6a862c soak fini did top worlds but idk what it was for
it didnt have any attackers to abuse soak
maybe they thought it'd be funny to soak and then seed bomb?
seed bomb ice rider probs yeah
soak also basically works like tera
for ice rider
even if you lose stab
also another niche strat for soak was soak their shedinja
so you can hit it
The Ogre counter
Mean Look Umbreon into a Talon Zera Scizor comp just ate them alive
Decidueye invited me to a ranked game, so it was my first ranked game on remoat.
@pseudo goblet Defenders good actually
My wonder pick luck with this set has been awful
Wonder pick sucks ass
lucky
Lesgooooooo!
Speaking of good pulls
Does pulling this from a gift box mean I have to play Dragapult now?
Yes
why wouldn't you want to play the ultimate dragon in terms of attack and defense?
With no monsters left on the field, I summon Dragapult and Dragon Darts your life points directly!
does that mean dragapult fires DMG?
That would imply DMG is DM's daughter 
Or at least adoptive daughter
Nah they fire baby DMs and DMGs
dragapult doesnt mention the dreepy it fires is their children huh
Huh
The memes always joke about how Dragapult yeets its own children
Guess I was mistaken
My bad
its all good
Live long the defenders
They are a lot worse in 500 point mode
But on ranked they eat the speedsters apparently.

This is the worst patch to pull a dragapult skin 
You'll just get deleted
But Pult looks really fun so I'll try it. Besides, it's a dragon.
That shoots children lol
Mission pack lets go!
how many regular palkia ex you got?
I can trade one to you depending on what you have if you want
what exs do you need?
currently lickylicky, exeg, darkrai, weavile, articuno, moltres
alright we can get the trading done later (I'm eating) , I definitely have an extra articuno or 2
sweet. do I have you added?
Komi you have Pikachu ex already? 
ye I've had the deck for a while
I dont know, do you have someone named doodlez added?
ANYONE THAT NEEDS PIKACHU EX, @ ME, I WANT THESE THING GONE 
Oh cool, was wondering can we even trade with Dialga Palkia pack cards, we can
another free fight
...kinda helps volkner's team is exactly hard countered by +speed tusk
alright added Komi
Komi getting closer to have 100 friends
@mighty storm ok sent
tusk is vroken
but I kinda dont wanna run any paradox/legendary/UB stuff in this game
Why I dont hear about it more often 
understandable given how relatively early you get them
most of the paradoxes are obtainable as soon as you can get to the desert
i'm just running some of them bc i like them
yeah makes sense
maybe I wont even run a pseudo either but they are way more balanced than paradox

honestly, game's probably easy enough to do that and be fine
All the more weird I dont hear the words more often
because I dont play ou
and it's far from its prime in vg
talontusk was meta
back in reg C
Idk the early game kinda felt "harder" than rad red tbh althout i havent really cared much about looking at the sheet
but still
now I think about it I havent even optimised the natures and items
but like I'm just at flannery iirc
ty for the dialga
hardest parts of early game for me were brawly and gardenia pre-brawly
saving her for post-brawly helped a lot
roserade hits like a truck and both her glooms are fat as fuck
Gardenia was pretty easy for me
I think kilowatterel did most of the job
Hardest for me has been watson
But that's mostly because opposing kilowatterel ate most of my team
My kilowatterel got flinched like 5 times 
Tf are they doing
The first to 500 event has a chance to give you holowear
List??
PlsHaveMamoPlsHaveMamo
Last I check Mamo only have one interesting holowear anyway
Almost went feral seeing ‘Metaqross’

No Mamo 
Hey, look at the bright side
You need to win games in first to 500 to grind these boxes
So if you don't want them, no need to subject yourself to 4 speedster splitpush city 
But all that bling bling tho 
metaqross my fav pokemon
Oshit I just saw that
4th evolution...

Kalosian Metagross

Whose gonna be the Hisuian Goodra this time 
Garchomp for like a pseudo legendary trade between both region???
Yep that's the idea
Cyclazar/drampa are based
Also a spin blocker
Wait that's the reverse
I am stupid

Ghosts are the spin blockers
This was mudkip, right?
After you post it, yes
Same energy as this guy
Ofc Bruial would know Sam and Max lol
Daaaamn, nice pack
Meta had Leafeon replaced Lilligant ight
I think so
Tried it with Venusaur and it works well
drampa was cool back in the day during gen 7

Rip to the best gen 3 starter because they banned the move before it could abuse it
Sceptile 
No
Only good shed tail user in doubles was orthworm
its more like its a defensive mon with slow shed tail
https://twitter.com/dietranch/status/1897175171250970825?t=vwKavjuRO8gBQMYfIdX_Dg&s=19
https://twitter.com/pr_quote/status/1897483269257527652?t=QNBVCfW_1e_fCkWvjicEww&s=19
Also sidenote https://x.com/avhycch3x80kcue/status/1897263464428785872?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
They gave Zygarde 10% an asshole
Go away 
Bruh 
That was their only out
MU felt super favorable at least. Koraidon Flare Blitz did not do enough to threaten tera fairy Mirai.
Iron Crown absolutely shits on Amogus
And on Flutter
https://twitter.com/_OctcO_/status/1893619481882107960?t=gj7PSXFzZGE8C8snWaqclw&s=19
https://twitter.com/NK_05_25/status/1893649271859150877?t=_6fIhBYnG6_thSNQVkKmmQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/1111_yodo/status/1893276311839207511?t=DNjbgt0XbcgZ3Dah4TKQig&s=19
damp rock? lmao
Damp fish...
i'll damp your fish
Pelipper/Kyogre x Dracovish 
its a fine mon but idt its good wnough to use in a restricted format
To this day I only have results in format without legendaries 
Awwwww
dracovish is one of the few mons which you didnt want to dynamax
which is cool ig
https://twitter.com/whtink/status/1897278829837869162?t=SoXxUirTUW1f_k65npdX5w&s=19
I got another mon for you
@sterile verge
(it didn't ping reply for some reason)
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2313688038
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2313689390
I think I 2-0ed honse? I'm a little confused atm?
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Hruwhwheguwyw it looks so cute in the scarf

You defo 2-0ed em
but their sets were questionable
and playing was too
Tired and hungry and confused atm, so I was not sure
clear amulet chi yu is my fav tho
Them repeatedly clicking ezpanding force over astral barrage did not help them
Gotta resist that snarl/parting shot
Sash deedee made sense to me to set up TR
AV shadow rider probably might be okay
You know that's why it be so smug
indeedee should survive any single attack anyway

if you wanted sash indeedee you should run male tbh
because its way more offensive
and fast
also they shoulda had ting lu in the team somewhere
alongside dozo
they have 2 protect in the whole team

in a team without any choice items
Awwww
@fading stratus any water move I can run over muddy water?
Tatsu was so close to clutching it
Muddy water misses are all too common tho
Kinda tempted to run Surf over it

its still better than surf
Okay, went over its movepool, and muddy water really is the best option if surf is bad
Water pulse and chilling water just hit too weak
And hydro pump has the same issue muddy water has
Yeah, it's a good team
did you know calyrex gets leech seed
I knew base caly does
ice rider caly just won the global challenge iirc
A bud learn seed move, who’d knew 
Leech sees broken in Pokerogue
Bo3 gives me more chances to learn
So does Dozogiri at my elo
People don't have any answers to it on their team so they die
Except that one guy that ran a weezing team. That ate my team up hard.
you dont take tatsu against wheezing
was it shadow rider dozogiri
was it koraidon
Ye
oh they just copied the team probs
Korai flutter
wheezing with ability shield korai topped euic
Protect on every mon
so understandable
Looked like a wolfe team
Weezing with will-o-wisp just soloed my team
Nope
but generally wheezing runs toxic spikes
Was kanto weezing
because poison is very good for dozo
dark?
No clue?
its probs dark if on a sun team
Idt they brought it in against me
They had protect on every mon so maybe not urshi
I was not in a state to remember their team
I knew what they had on their team when I faced it, but I forgor
https://twitter.com/esasi8794/status/1897607755269284336?t=fY4zUJ9zvnX-57y4chTgNg&s=19
https://twitter.com/tL2zyMo0jsU1lZi/status/1897230518158287042?t=FfCbLtaNR0NQ13MwChudqQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/Fuju1012/status/1896501453839290795?t=La3CyFFSewcnLw-3yDMo6A&s=19
Lots of nodls!
They should bring back gen 3 surf
95 BP hits both enemies, doesn't hit ally
https://twitter.com/ba7nacha/status/1897303172219297859/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Hida_rite/status/1897532045838176415/photo/1
Pretty
@normal cave so they announced a new plushie and now there's so much fanart of this
https://twitter.com/MuraseLelait/status/1898008480466059668/photo/1
https://twitter.com/bingjinghushi/status/1897900093396992272/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Yukoko_6130/status/1897897145325453517/photo/1
https://vxtwitter.com/tontaro_/status/1897924500282654981
https://twitter.com/h1na3/status/1897977013149090219/photo/1
I LOVE IT
ITS BEAUTIFUL
Knowing other pokemon plushies, a lot
And it might get scalped hard
eh seems the other "sweet support" plushes are 30 usd
so gonna assume same price range
this one is evil tho

"I wonder why Cubone is crying"
"Oh yeah..."
decided after emerald imperium to boot up a new run of rejuvenation to pass some time
still in the early-ish game tho
i want to say this is the earliest i've beaten this asshole tho
i forgot his abra set up trick room lol
his team is level 10 sash abra, level 45 kadabra, level 85 alakazam
yeah that's the point lol
Ok its been a week or so I've had time to develop opinions
:plotting:
The Z-A female mc is good
Not my favourite
Def below the SV femc
7/10
Watching a Nuzlock later that I am in (spiritually, I am the skitty), this team is on the route right after Lumiose
This team is very blue, and very normal/water heavy
wonder picks are carrying me hard lately
If anyone has a spare arceus ex they're willing to trade lmk
Double Daily Pack dubs!
You're gonna be waiting for the next pack, since Arceus EX is from the newest, and they don't allow trades with the newest pack.
Oh wow that sucks
TIL
also got mine, for some reason my last match was against an underpowered fire deck running pokedex lol
so I was the first to die
of this episode

That's just mainline skitty
Skitty is insane in mystery dungeon DX and in Pokerogue, but not in the mainline games.
She did get a Honedge with no guard tho, so thats huge
Lets goooo~ first Fossilized Drake in todays grind
gathering lots of Drake and Fish for future hunt
bot matches in 500 point mode are such a pain
the enemy AI always pushes as 5 for game, and the team AI does nothing to defend
you need to be able to 1v5 or end the game before the push
Bruh how
Guess I get the funny talonflame skin then
it's only bot matches at this hour so I gotta spam splitpush
ignore enemy team and spam goals
Just score goals and ignore the enemy when facing bots
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2314895378 @fading stratus went 2-1 vs Trick Room
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between wezlbruial and Rattle809! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2025 Reg G (Bo3); Date: Mar 8, 2025
Game 1 was not recorded for some reason but I lost bad
why do they need 3 trick room setters..............
Idk
Giraffe and Honse are both sweepers
Anyways, I found out that clicking heat wave and tera fairy dazzling gleam lets you delete their TR setter through rage powder. Unless its Pory.
They also had Trace Pory, and it kept copying feesh
So even smaller spdef
Clicking a spread move on Chi Yu plus tera fairy Gleam just feels so fun
Let them do the thinking while I click buttons
heatran is pcool i think it was to solve the zama matchup but i still dont understand the use of 3 tr setters
their actual attackers were just ice rider and heatran
well ig flutter too

More damage on their honse?
Yeah that was weird
bloodmoon yeah
Pory seems to be a fave of theirs tho
I like bloodmoon with ice rider because it makes up for physical special damage
So maybe replace giraffe
Yeah that works
Or they could go torkoal
To work with flutter
But BM probs hits harder
well torkoal hits harder
but bloodmoon is more versatile
because you can play both hard tr and hybrid
I see
also they have heatran for fire type
Then bm works better with flutter
so why need another fire type
Idt I've seen many ice rider teams with 2 TR setters
let alone 3

I think they just wanted a team where pory is good
I lied
I've actually seen 1 team with 3 TR setters
but the third one was like gallade
which in on itself is an offensive mon
I think this went undefeated in swiss in worlds
or lost only 1 game
Very tr heavy
... wait I had to do school for the legendaries dont I
...
Also the heck you mean theres more than one of these 
We had...3. Thanks.
I legitimately can't rank up because of people idling or straight up leaving
Truly a wonderful experience
Sick theme btw
as opposed to unovan soils of course 
mfw drifloon is the featured dex mon of the week
today I'll kidnap children
The nodl
They better not be a dick and decide to unlock these treasures shiny after we caught the ones in our save file 
Yes, thats the annoying part 
Also jesus Chien Pao took so many luxury ball and still no capture
Took like 7 for Ting Lu with crit catch
Not a single crit with nodl yet
Chien Pao, get caught pls, let me treat you like the treasure you are
(Totally not purely because I need you for Meloetta lol)
Do I even have to say it?
Alright, last one I need
Well shit, Koraidon has lower catch rate than the treasures
well yeah
wdym
Ok, let's talk. Y'all know Surskit?
Absolutely adorable, aren't they?
Personally think it’s a waste but hey preferences
When Butterfree and Beedrill are obtainable at lv10 Masquerain needing level 22 is stupid 
Also went from a cool and relatively unique typing to a bargain bin common and terrible one
araquanid and golisopod came to deliver us from the bug/flying menace
Dewpider looks different than I remember.
pinsir is definitely a bug type, yes
Buzzwole should have sucked Pikachu
Man would have been unstoppable
WANNA SEE ME DRINK THIS GUY
Nah, that would be overfed
I thought Pinsir was Normal type
bug by default, bug/flying when mega
I see.
Way to remind me to get more Megas candidate 
Same
And she hates spiders.
as far as megas go, having the same ability as mega salamence puts it in a not-so-great position
Joltik would drive her crazy.
but at least it gets priority
mence is a menace
And Ariados (was that its name?)
Whaddat?
Moon cactus
ye, that's one of the spider mons
what do we have for those anyway
Yeah, my Mom would be screaming.
ariados line, galvantula line, spidops line
those are the ones i can immediately think of
Thank goodness there are no Cockroach Pokemon.
Count Dewpider already?
Pheromosa?
Yikes.
Hm... I'm scared of what would happen if my sister got a Litwick thinking it was cute or something.
dont have to do the school for it
Too late lol
If pokemon do kinda understand people like in the anime, taking great care of it should help
Litwick is cute wym
Take it for a walk near somewhere with high deathrate
So... The hospital?
Hey you said it not me 
Or... Maybe a shady company.
Half the mons would cause unimaginable catastrophe irl anyways
Stealing souls is whatever
but can they beat 1 billion lions dabs and leaves the chat into chaos
Would Solgaleo side with the sun or the lions?
The Angel Malgam was brutal.
Spanner never really did anything that makes me happy
And thats me saying knowing we have fucking Blades
Gamefreak with every ghost type dex entry ever
I'm assured that Drifloon can't carry me away.

Why did Gyarados hit the 🤨

Some of the coolest Pokemon ever are Ground type - but which one is the strongest?
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@fading stratus
Fellas
I beat the pocket addiction
I havent logged in for daily packs for 2 weeks now
My guess would be
- Groudon
- Garchomp
- Gastrodon
- Ursaluna
lets see what wolfe has
return to the shit ass card game~
No Lando?
oh lando is ground yeah......
Yeah gastro kinda cracked
lando at 2
Lando semi limited...
- Groudon
- Landorus
- Garchomp

Both gastros good
It's a matter of perspective
But with our numbers, you can only wait for the inevitable...
I'll be real I didnt know there were 10 good ground types

ig this gen gave us a few
tusk ting lu and bloodmoon
Gliscor 
Why you think its one of my top fav types 
The 2 goats are Krookodile and Excadrill
Ground type goat mon 
krook gets intimidate kidge
Regional Gogoat 
Gogoat kinda already a mountain goat
Krook is objectively both a good mon and cool looking
Which is a hard combo to pull off
+1 thugs
wolfey put nidoking in 10
I remember seeing nidoking in finals of ocic a few years back
it was against mega metagross

Was Ursaluna mentioned already?????
no

Yeah Ursaluna made the list
No mean in this topic here
I said ursaluna at the start yeah
Ahhhhkay
Both my supports went afk how are you doing chat? 
Its not too early or late to retire~~
There, uninstalled
have some noodles to cheer you up
wanna guess on what will win vancouver bruial
OOOOH I LOVE THESE
Honse?
its just a guess the tournament starts in an hour

I will guess shadow rider tho yeah
Ghost honse or mirai
Discord tournament after Pokemon Champions comes out 
I would play
I'd love to play, if it's f2p
All I want is them letting rentals
I'm down to get my ass kicked
if they let you rental I can just steal lists
Bolt making teams for me and Bruial and destroy us 
Ye
probably will be different formats
Pdon is back
Anyone got a spare dialga ex to trade for?
Scuse me
Idt you can
Oh we can? Sick
Pick what you need from the list
Pdon is Primal Groudon
I think first format will be very low powered format
I want a gen 7 like format
which would be cool
I want to mega mawile
did you know 2017 was such a weak format persian was meta
Moltres maybe 
Ye that's cool
Gonna trick room mawile honse
Trade offer sent
What gmax do you use on TR?
hmm
Dang you fast
bloodmoon
Lapras?
fasted trades in the west
Ohhhh
Dmax works too
Yeah no need for gmax, could be regular dmax sweeper
Oh right lol
tera is also cool as a mechanic but awful as a battle mechanic
You have the option to use it so why not?
Dmax broken
no like I just dont like it as a concept why would you not play it
Ah
What a boring top 5 sigh
that was my fav cheese at early gen 8
but I never played late gen 8
wow that top 5 was correct

Im at 3
and 5 4 3 have been same
Gastro 4?
yeah
Yeah they're also my only copies of Pikachu sadly
@swift jasper your goat thriving
My personal top 5 is
Krookodile
Excadrill
Hippowdon
Seismitoad
Toedscruel
gastro always wins
Ye I doubt you want normal ones lol
Weezing toedscruel 
Eh, we had it and it was cool, but the vgc format has been cool regardless the entire gen
yeah
You could argue the only uncool part about the vgc format was the otk move format
I miss dozo tatsu annihilape cores

There so much skill involved in dozo tatsu team that people don’t realize until they maneuver the actual team
Lots of people's only plan vs tatsudozo is "pray I crit"
dozo tatsu is a very strong core
https://pokepast.es/017a19b6d14373ec
look at this team thugs 
Force them to bring amogus and then hit them with the miraidon chi yu spam
Seems fine, but I don’t like how coin floppy miraidon teams are tbh
Some other pros have talked about it too
Mirai invalidating amogus is nice
I’m currently cooking a Lunala Balance team
look at lunala psyspam
Lunala 
I have all the references, just cooking up an idea I had
I did look at calm mind lunala a while back
then realised
why use lunala when you can terapagos

Only issue which I dislike is I can’t play flutter + Lunala together
Which is making this harder
Was expecting you to say "why use lunala when you can use honse"
honse cant be a bulky calm mind user sadly
It just fucking kills shit instead
honse's defenses are paperthin and I dont like that
I like another honse
its bulky af
Mudsdale?
Ice honse bulky
mudsdale was cool in gen 7
Mudsdale was broken in Smogon no?
idk about smogon but mudsdale was pgood during 2017
Weren’t all the singles Andy’s like ren complaining about it
no idea
Tera fire sounds nasty yeah
so zama has been dropping heavy slam because tera fairy zama is popular
Covers fire and steel weakness, covers burn
Heavy slam is steel?
You mean body press?
no heavy slam
they're playing beheemoth bash
idt you can ohko honse with bash lmao
honse is that bulky
252 Atk Zamazenta-Crowned Behemoth Bash vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Tera-Fairy Calyrex-Ice Rider: 116-138 (56 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
not adamant because you play impish
Oof






