Pokemon

[sonic inlet]

I do too

[polar osprey]

and the dust the pack gives is nothing

[sonic inlet]

Can't you buy the slab

[golden lance]

Btw why is thr requirement for that one mission like

[polar osprey]

I thought I was just gonna do a multi or 2 to get the commons I needed

but NOPE

I do have 2 mew ex tho

[golden lance]

"spend 720 hourglasses"

??????????

[polar osprey]

I don't have either

[sonic inlet]

Ouch

[sonic inlet]

Telling people to whale

Stall also got better apparently

With the new koffing

Serperior is good but it needs something better than celebi

Basically all I saw from the new pack

Aerodactyl exists and is disappointing ig

[cunning shard]

How it's a effing Coinflipper

[polar osprey]

Idk

people are that bad

[cunning shard]

Mew2 can oneshot celebi in the same time frame celebi has to gamble a knockout by quad head

[sonic inlet]

I have celebi, I don't get it either

[sonic inlet]

It's fun tier

[polar osprey]

You can't make this up

[sonic inlet]

The card is so gamba

[polar osprey]

missing 4 cards

2 are the commons which were the only cards I wanted from this fucking pack

[golden lance]

Oh you got full art gyara

[cunning shard]

Celebi is high roll af that's about it

[golden lance]

Cool

[polar osprey]

at least I have a mew playset Ig

I think mew fucking sucks in m2

bcs m2 is a turbo deck

[golden lance]

Getting low rarity cards is so hard for no reason

[sonic inlet]

Yep

[polar osprey]

you want cards that get to your combo and nothing else

[cunning shard]

U probably have a better matchup with eggy vs mew2 unless u don't because mew2 detaches 2 on its oneshot

[polar osprey]

the reason is the dust system in this game sucks

[golden lance]

Like legit, 6/9 cards i need for immersive mew are commons

[polar osprey]

you get a minuscule amount of dust per pack

and duplicates don't give you dust

[golden lance]

30 pikachu packs without a single caterpie, peak fiction

[polar osprey]

also people are saying gya sucks

mf reads as insane to me

Idk what people are on

[golden lance]

Its 2 sided

I can kinda see it

[polar osprey]

but yeah

if they keep this up m2 might be good still

[cunning shard]

Gyarados?

[polar osprey]

just needs another psychic shit

[golden lance]

Discard 1 energy from all mons

[cunning shard]

Well it's because Coinflip deck broken if misty resolves like 2 heads otherwise have fun ever getting there

And it lacks like 10 dmg to knockout stuff like mew2 with giovanni

[polar osprey]

btw the dedene will be a staple in pika moving forward probably

[cunning shard]

Well new pika stuff makes seem surge at least playable with magnetron I guess

Decent poke to get things into range but most games u don't get further than attaching 4 energy

[golden lance]

You know what's big?

The new ponyta

Honestly huge for blaine

[cunning shard]

Yeah that's sweet same dmg as normal with high roll potential into 130

[polar osprey]

yeah I was about to talk about it

guess who only pulled one of it?

[cunning shard]

The magma sucks tho

[polar osprey]

all I wanted from this pack were 4 different commons

[golden lance]

GUESS WHAT BITCH

[polar osprey]

I got 2 dedennes full art instead

2 serperios full art

[golden lance]

0 OF EVERYTHING I WANTED

[polar osprey]

2 mew ex

like

fuck me

at least I got the dedennes but holy fuck

still missing 1 zapdos for pika btw

[cunning shard]

Serperior is at least bonkers just lack good grass mons right now

[polar osprey]

after I get my mewtwo stuff I go back to pika farming

also just checked pocket tournaments

[sonic inlet]

Rapidash doing 130 is kind silly

[polar osprey]

what's possessing people to play fucking jinx over sigi

[sonic inlet]

Serperior reads insane

[polar osprey]

people legit don't know how to play turbo decks in pocket

[sonic inlet]

It's TCG venusaur right

[cunning shard]

Serperior ability also includes retreat costs

[sonic inlet]

Yeah

[polar osprey]

I think you still want the old rapidash bcs you want your energies to fuel ninetails

but the new ponyta is a must have for blaine

PEOPLE ARE PLAYING FUCKING BLUE IN POCKET TOURNAMENTS AHHHHHHH

BRO IS A CONTENDER FOR WORST CARD IN THE GAME

[cunning shard]

If the dmg reduction woudl at least be more

[sonic inlet]

Yeah it's exactly TCG venu lol

No no blue can come up bro

It's a giovanni counter

[polar osprey]

also Idk about leaf over x speed in everything but maybe

[sonic inlet]

https://www.pokemonmeta.com/top-decks/community-tournaments/新パック記念杯-(311-players)/1/mewtwo-ex/おむち!!/KVhLt

[cunning shard]

U can play leaf since it makes your big mons retreat possible

[sonic inlet]

This got 1st place in a 311 player tournament btw

[cunning shard]

Because instead of needing like 2 x speed just 1 leaf

[polar osprey]

no slab is lmao

[sonic inlet]

No slab but mew is poggers apparently

[cunning shard]

Kangashkhan can be expensive to retreat

[sonic inlet]

Leaf is neat

If you don't have trainers that are essencial to your deck

[cunning shard]

Also mew can just be a stall tool thanks to adventurer

[polar osprey]

mew stall engine is insane

doesn't advance your gamestate at all

unlike the weezing one

0 pressure unless you let it eat your energy

[sonic inlet]

You don't even need to give weezing energy

[polar osprey]

that's what I mean

it's a big difference

[cunning shard]

Less deck slot tho I guess

[polar osprey]

also red is definitely coming in the Johto update

[sonic inlet]

Yeah

Mt silver shit

[cunning shard]

Well next update is allready middle emxt month I think

And hopefully good dark stuff

[polar osprey]

calling it now one of the cover mons is gonna be ttar

[sonic inlet]

1 dog for each pack

[polar osprey]

suicune is also gonna be a cover mon

[golden lance]

Red is gonna be blaine for pika ex

Watch

[polar osprey]

it's one of the most popular mons ever

[sonic inlet]

Then lugia and hooh somewhere

[polar osprey]

red being blaine for pika ex would be so fucking funny but on point

red in the TCG lets you search any card btw

so the effect is gonna be completely different

bcs they hate searching

[cunning shard]

Well I take any kind of Pokémon tcg that isn't Coinflip heaven

[polar osprey]

we will also most likely be getting the e4

will will probably be psychic support

but it's crazy that instead of supporting the unsupported types they just buffed pika and m2

[golden lance]

Oh cool first slab

[sonic inlet]

It's ok for m2 at least, it completely went by people's heads

[polar osprey]

"here take better meowth and pircuchin for no fucking reason"

[golden lance]

It also supported the best deck in the game too

||BLAINE||

[polar osprey]

also shows that they are gonna give 0 fucks about powercreep printing cards that are straight up upgrades this soon

[sonic inlet]

Tbf

[polar osprey]

giving more weight to the claim that Johto is gonna make the current meta unplayable

[sonic inlet]

They just want it to be a casual game clearly

[polar osprey]

I think they just don't know or care about balance

celebi was clearly meant to be the big hitter of this pack but it's just worse mewtwo which they buffed

[sonic inlet]

Oh wtf

Why is sigi so fat

[cunning shard]

Well nothing is more unplayable than opponent starting blue bird and Coinflip misty 2 heads turn 1 and if really unlucky 3 and u just go next game

[polar osprey]

SEE????

and has 1 retreat cost

meowth with twice the hp for no reason

[sonic inlet]

That's crazy

[cunning shard]

Yeah mew2 agenda is real here

[polar osprey]

I had to double check the retreat cost

[cunning shard]

I don't see why u don't play Sigi it's poke that brings mirror into range on top

[polar osprey]

literally just better meowth for the only deck using it

[cunning shard]

+1 draw

[polar osprey]

also apparently they just want dark to be status and nothing else

only dark shit here is even more poison

the only type that's good into m2 does no fucking damage by design

[cunning shard]

The centi guy is cool for 2 enegery 70 Dmg

But

[polar osprey]

centi should have a way to poison itself also

instead of being reliant on its stage 1 for it

the new koffing is sick tho

btw why do they keep making golem shit to design around brock

when they just let water mons go crazy with misty

4 fucking energy for 120

the new eevee is also the best eevee

but Idt any of the eeveelutions is good enough rn

[sonic inlet]

I just fucking drew 4 with 2 slab + oak lmao

[golden lance]

Same but with sigilyph

[polar osprey]

I hate yet to get sigi

40 fucking pulls

[golden lance]

I hope the novelty of the new pack wears off past

[polar osprey]

btw I completed every solo event and cleaned the shop for this

this game SUUUUUUCKS for getting cards

[golden lance]

Need people to start pulling genetic apex for my mew

[polar osprey]

commons shouldn't be this hard to get

[cunning shard]

Uh arbok kinda also does hit for enough dmg to bring mewtwo in lethal range

[cunning shard]

Played vs bot puts evee attaches energy rolls 9 effing heads

[polar osprey]

I wonder picked thrice for sigi btw

[golden lance]

Eevee is gonna be misty 2.0 except 3 heads isnt the end of the game

[cunning shard]

I have everything x2 except mew and I miss aero and gyarados

[polar osprey]

found another sigi wonder pick

may God have mercy

4th time is the charm

NOPE

ANOTHER PRIMAPE

I hate wonder picks

[cunning shard]

Well I have now anither month of just Wonder picking and waiting

Prime ape downgrade

[polar osprey]

wait

I have 3 fucking mew exes ok?

but I have 0 explorer

wtf is this awful luck I got this pack

[cunning shard]

Now If they made a card to dmg your own mon

I'm haunted by celebi

Probably have 3-4 Standarts and 2 immersive

[polar osprey]

4 wonder picks for sigi 3 for explorer

0 of either

and 40 pulls

WHY IS IT SO HARD TO GET COMMONS IN THIS SHIT

AHHHHHH

[cunning shard]

I'm still don't have alt art gyarados

[polar osprey]

btw

I have fucking

56/68 cards in this pack

out of the ones I don't have

[cunning shard]

9 wonder picks on it and didn't get it a single time

[polar osprey]

3 are the commons I wanted

[cunning shard]

After 55 packs I had everything except the 3 exs

[polar osprey]

this could be fixed by not having the amount of dust you get per pack be dogshit

but alas

[cunning shard]

Also sad volcarona is so balls

[polar osprey]

now I wait for the wonder pick to reset

with my 500 wonder hourglasses

literally

[cunning shard]

Not only expensive attack but it has to detach 2 for 80

[polar osprey]

I wish I could use clocks to forcefully reset the wonder picks

I think I only used 2 clocks total since I started playing

[polar osprey]

if it didn't detach it would decent for bench nuking

also lumineon is literally seadra but better btw

[cunning shard]

Yeah 1 less energy

[polar osprey]

both are stage 1s that bench snipe for 50 but seadra is 3 energy and lumineon is 2

again they are releasing cards that are straight up upgrades of older ones IN THE SECOND FUCKING SET OF THE GAME

holy powercreep

[cunning shard]

Tho mew2 should be dominating overall if pika just doesn't win the price set up race

[golden lance]

Oh yea isnt there a better zebstrika now?

[polar osprey]

electabuzz

[cunning shard]

Elek?

But costs 2 energy tho right

[polar osprey]

2 energy but it's a basic and does more damage

but it's a basic

and dedenne is better pincurchin

so you have space for more basics and can play better ones

[golden lance]

Space for what tho?

[cunning shard]

Morelul is plant fros moth

[golden lance]

Blue?

[cunning shard]

Nah u just mew poke and use adventurer

[polar osprey]

yeah elec is also 1 retreat cost

the retreat cost powercreep is also crazy

celebi is 1 retreat btw

[cunning shard]

Yeah

[polar osprey]

we also got a straight up better magmar btw but Idt you run it still

does 80 damage over 50

[cunning shard]

Yeah but detaches 2

Probably still ninetales

[polar osprey]

also calling it now tauros will be the next noob bait to combat the "evil exes"

[cunning shard]

If tauros had any kind of energy accel at least

[sonic inlet]

Scott pilgrim reference

[golden lance]

Just won a game off dedenne's double para

I'm a god

[polar osprey]

pika became absurd

expectation: other decks get to pikas level
reality: the abyss becomes deeper with the entire basic lineup of the best deck getting an upgrade

if this keeps up red is gonna be misty for electrics or whatever

[golden lance]

It wont be misty

It always gets exactly 2

Since you dont need more anyway

[polar osprey]

misty or surge for pika ex would be lmao

[sonic inlet]

PvP is all celebi, yikes

Sack or lose

[polar osprey]

lose to blaine any% speedrun

fucking rapidash gets rid of it in 2 turns with blaine

[sonic inlet]

Was testing mewtwo, these guys just focus on making celebi as big as possible and pray

[cunning shard]

To bad running double stage 2 is just to clunky otherwise I'd just run venasaur and trade better with the healing and Erika

[polar osprey]

erika doesn't even matter vs m2 bcs celebi gets one tapped

[sonic inlet]

Yeah

[polar osprey]

ninetales also one taps it with blaine btw

the deck is straight bad

[cunning shard]

Yep coin toss decks never good

[polar osprey]

too bad the best grass mon rn doesn't care about energy

the EGG

[cunning shard]

Esspecially In a tournament setting

[golden lance]

Wdym bro

Misty is right there

[cunning shard]

If u win with misty or celebi u just sacked

Every game

[polar osprey]

mythical slab also tells me we are not getting greatball for a while

[cunning shard]

And I actually prefer playing arkanine in moltres piles more than Charizard

[polar osprey]

arcanine has a higher winrate than zard with moltress...

[golden lance]

Crazy how they managed to make zard bad and mewtwo mid until slab

[sonic inlet]

Celebi again

[cunning shard]

Well not surprising u need one less combo piece and energy

[sonic inlet]

They always open it

It's crazy

[polar osprey]

a9 is straight up better than zard

[sonic inlet]

But this time I queued with blaine so eat shit

[cunning shard]

Doesn't matter until they just keep high rolling

[polar osprey]

I forgot to do the win in a row event

I was gonna do today

[cunning shard]

I missed a 6 toss knock out on mew and it copied my attack for 3 heads

[polar osprey]

didn't know it expired with the new pack

that's so stupid

[cunning shard]

[golden lance]

Oh shit it ended already?

[polar osprey]

this was the perfect time for an event like that

[golden lance]

Fuck

[polar osprey]

here is a new pack btw you have nowhere to play the cards in hf

[cunning shard]

U don't need to win just get into game and surrender 10 times in a row

[golden lance]

Didnt even get the scoop hourglasses

[cunning shard]

[polar osprey]

me neither

I was gonna farm it today

worst possible time to end the event

btw

mini packs have worse rates than normal ones for specific cards

[golden lance]

Bro this game is so ass

[polar osprey]

bcs the cardpool is bigger

[golden lance]

Why are we still playing it?

[sonic inlet]

One tapped by rapidash

[polar osprey]

since the normal pack is divided in 3

yippe

[sonic inlet]

HE CONCEDED RIGHT AWAY LMAOO

Nice deck

[polar osprey]

mini packs are usually the go to for new players in card games

[cunning shard]

Eggy ist best grass type if u wanna high roll

[normal cave]

To pull packs twice a day

[polar osprey]

they managed to have mini packs have worse odds here

but choccy was spot on

pika and m2 aged the best

[golden lance]

As i tend to be

[tacit sphinx]

The dictionary definition of “lie” has a picture of this post next to it

[cunning shard]

Well venasaur got a considerable update with serperior I guess but u are racing for set up to get it even to work

[polar osprey]

btw why did they print leaf then made everything have 1 retreat cost this set

[polar osprey]

2 stage 2s in a game with red card and no consistency tools is insanity

well one consistency tool now

praise mythic slab

[cunning shard]

Yeah

[golden lance]

Why was i wrong on literally anything ever?

[tacit sphinx]

I wish there were a past formats option for TCG

[cunning shard]

Serperior doesn't have a home like u can gamble on the anchor dude I guess

[tacit sphinx]

I really wanna play the goat era

ex series, my beloved…

[golden lance]

Tcgone.com

[polar osprey]

there was

but live decided to stop supporting expanded

[tacit sphinx]

How many apps have there been for the TCG btw

[golden lance]

Official ones? 5

[tacit sphinx]

It feels like it keeps changing

Jesus

[polar osprey]

one thing I really disliked about this set is that the game didn't get any more complex

we got ONE ability that gives you agency and nothing else

[golden lance]

Dont expect it to ever

Games will be decided by coin tosses until the end of time

[polar osprey]

at least gives us anything that interacts with the energies in the discard pile

bcs they go there

just nothing does anything with them

[golden lance]

Do they?

[polar osprey]

YEP

[golden lance]

They dont show up when you click on the pile tho

[polar osprey]

they don't show up as cards

[tacit sphinx]

I wonder what the consistently worst Pokemon is in TCG

Like what’s had absolutely zero relevance ever

or been actively bad

[golden lance]

15/3 format

[tacit sphinx]

No

Like

Has Muk ever been good

for example

Like what’s the consistently least usable mon

[golden lance]

Yes

Muk was very good in gen 1

[tacit sphinx]

I am not asking Muk specifically

I’m using it as an example

[normal cave]

Gen 7 muk was an insane floodgate

[tacit sphinx]

Foolish look two posts up thank you

[polar osprey]

pidgeot was good a couple of times

thrice I think

[golden lance]

Anyway the answer is jynx

[normal cave]

No, I don't have glasses

[golden lance]

I thought pidgeot was fearow for a sec

[normal cave]

Woke up and going back to bed

[polar osprey]

but yeah today I realized how fucking bad the pocket pack system is

got almost the entirety of the set but don't have enough dust for 4 commons

[normal cave]

I play pocket purely to pull cards twice a day and look at the cute art.

[polar osprey]

the main way to get cards being pulling over crafting makes commons super hard to get

for like no reason

[golden lance]

I play pocket because it has a low opportunity cost

Thats kinda it

[polar osprey]

they can keep the price of expensive full arts as is but they honestly should just slash the price of everything from exs and below by half

225 for an ex would still be absurd

you would still need 5 multis for a single ex

[golden lance]

Btw

Why is 1/4 of the mini pack just foils?

[polar osprey]

so you need 10 multis to get the common you want

[golden lance]

Like legit

Did we really need 5 new ex's?

[polar osprey]

18/68 of the pack are foil upgrades

more than 1/4

[golden lance]

Oh yea btw

0 steel types

Amazing

[polar osprey]

I'm just glad they showed restraint and didn't give both mew and mew ex foil upgrades but it's probably just because the mew immersive reward

[polar osprey]

No expeditioner pog

[golden lance]

Sick right?

Only 1 ex too

[polar osprey]

same for me

I got 2 exes only

3 mew ex btw

I'm so glad duplicates don't become dust

3 mew ex no expeditioner to use it in 4 multis

I'm gonna be in the wonder limbo until I manage to get sigi or expeditioner

which could take weeks

[golden lance]

Oh yea how bs do you think theyll make the promo alt art moltres ex be to get?

[polar osprey]

calling it rn

it's gonna be a spend x amount of hourglasses to get

to make people burn theirs before A2

it's gonna be right before A2 and be a reward for burning hourglasses

[normal cave]

[polar osprey]

@golden lance GOT A WONDER PICK WITH 3 FUCKING SIGI AND DIDN'T GET ANY

[golden lance]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

RIGGED ASS GAME

[young river]

https://vxtwitter.com/SoulSurVGC/status/1868928496720023585

[polar osprey]

in 1 hour I get 4 wonder pick resets and do it again

[polar osprey]

it's just true RNG bcs unlike every other OTCG they don't have any way to mitigate it like a decent pity system or any way to convert duplicates into useful resources

[pseudo goblet]

Sigilyph good? Got a few of them

[polar osprey]

so getting dupes here feels ASS

[pseudo goblet]

Or just joke

[polar osprey]

it's good

[pseudo goblet]

Neat

[polar osprey]

good niche and bulk will probably be a staple in psychic decks alongside mythical tablet for acceleration

[pseudo goblet]

Ohhhhhhhh better Meowth, ic

[pseudo goblet]

Btw do we know which old or new will expire first

[tacit sphinx]

lmao dpp is suspecting machamp

@fading stratus since you play comp

apparently no guard dynamicpunch is too good

[frosty ledge]

fml the bot keeps highrolling serperior celebi in expert solo 😭

I know this is gonna happen a decent amount but holy shit dude it's winning so many coin flips too

[polar osprey]

you can just use blaine to steamroll it

[frosty ledge]

I own like no fire pokemon

[viral ingot]

I didn't get a single new Rapidash from the new pack lmao

And only one Ponyta. xd

[polar osprey]

you want the old rapidash anyways

[viral ingot]

I'm still hesitant on buying more since it doesn't seem like a crazy pack.

[polar osprey]

but get the 2nd ponyta

[viral ingot]

True that.

Are there any decklists of the new cards though?

I can't remember the site that houses those...

[polar osprey]

just play dedenne over pincuchirn in pika

[frosty ledge]

THIS BOT JUST TOPDECKED CELEBI AFTER SERPERIOR THEN WENT STRAIGHT INTO 2 HEADS WHAT THE FUCK LOL

bruh

[polar osprey]

mystical slab and sigi in m2

[viral ingot]

Ohh, true that.

[frosty ledge]

"I'll save my potion, surely they won't hit me for exactly 100 damage"

[polar osprey]

also try elec over zebstrika

it needs 2 energy to bench punch but it's a basic and does 40 over 30

might be worth it

this pack does basically nothing but buff the best deck and m2 which is funny

0 steels 1 dragon

[frosty ledge]

I think celebi serperior is gonna be a meta deck

[viral ingot]

Mm...I really like Zeb being able to do bench damage.

[polar osprey]

celebi serperior is worse m2 BEFORE the buffs this pack gave it

worse type and bulk and with the support also worse consistency

[polar osprey]

elec does bench damage also

40

but it's 2 energy not 1

[frosty ledge]

idk maybe the coin flips will be worse in practice but holy shit this deck one shots out of nowhere. that said I didn't say tier 1, I just think there's no way this deck isn't a contender

[polar osprey]

but it's a basic

so it's a tradeoff

not sure if it's worth it

unlike dedenne which is straight up better pincurchin

[viral ingot]

Wait...are you saying Electrode or something else?

[frosty ledge]

serperior ability seems fucked

[polar osprey]

no

the new electabuzz

that does 40 bench damage for 2 energy

[viral ingot]

OH

[polar osprey]

lol

[pseudo goblet]

Speaking of that combo lol

[frosty ledge]

can we trade bots

[polar osprey]

the best pika version might be elec dedenne

[viral ingot]

I'll try out new Electabuzz then.

[polar osprey]

serperior is broken but has no good grass mon to boost outside of venusaur which is also a stage 2 so lol

[pseudo goblet]

I got lucky with the first image, if they didnt miss, Id lose

[polar osprey]

celebi doesn't have enough bulk to take advantage of erika and needs a bunch of energy to do any consistent damage

[frosty ledge]

I swear on god this bot has never hit anything less than lethal on coin flips

[pseudo goblet]

Won by feeding Zard and nuke the celebi at the end

[polar osprey]

with 2 energy and serperior celebi is still basically worse marowak

which is lol

[pseudo goblet]

Random japanese player btw

[frosty ledge]

worse marowak with better support otherwise I feel like

[polar osprey]

serperior is a good card to hoard for the future tho

just not good enough to waste hourglasses for

you only really go all in if you play pika or mewtwo

[viral ingot]

Also gotta hoard hourglasses for the new years box...

[pseudo goblet]

I DONT NEED THAT MANY THO DO I

[polar osprey]

I gave up on that

even getting commons in this game is super hard

40 pulls and didn't get any of the commons I wanted

56/68 cards in the pack gotten

[pseudo goblet]

Try 3 silvers cards

Prize 3, whatever

[polar osprey]

this game has no way to mitigate RNG and is super stingy

so Idt hoarding matters

you either get lucky or you don't

[viral ingot]

Yeah, hourglasses/currency feel so scarce compared to other games.

[polar osprey]

see what I mean? 4 serperiors including 2 full arts and 1 snivy

I have 3 fucking mew exes and no explorer or whatever the supporter is that bounces mew

they should honestly slash the dust cost of everything ex and below

[frosty ledge]

I feel like that's to compensate for only needing 2-ofs

[polar osprey]

and only keep the full arts that high

[golden lance]

Btw

Fuck the mission that asks for boosting 60 packs

Tf is that

[viral ingot]

I guess, but it really does feel kinda harsh to even try to get certain rares or even commons.

[polar osprey]

you need 11 fucking multis to get enough dust for ONE ex and duplicates give you fuck all

[pseudo goblet]

And Vice Versa

[polar osprey]

usually 11 multis gets you enough for a spark in a gacha where you just need 1 char

[frosty ledge]

oh pack points yeah

[polar osprey]

and again this game is very stingy with resources

[frosty ledge]

that part is fucked lmao

[polar osprey]

again I think they should just slash the amount of pack points you need for everything ex and below by half

wouldn't change anything for the whales that are chasing full arts

[normal cave]

ÜN ÜN ÜN

[polar osprey]

and would let people build full decks a lot easier

[pseudo goblet]

As Master EX player, I can tell you, they will never do that

[frosty ledge]

better to start off shitty and then work backwards, hopefully that means they'll improve it later

[pseudo goblet]

If they do, theres a gimmick

In Pocket, we get Promo event so far

[polar osprey]

it's more likely they make the cost go up for spark like with masters

1000 points for a EX

nice looking number

[normal cave]

I nearly have 500 points in genetic apex

I should get an arcanine ex before they change the price

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-ryuki-kamen-rider-ryuki-仮面ライダー龍騎-仮面ライダー-gif-24090095

[normal cave]

Or maybe a pika or zapdos

[pseudo goblet]

Nah, I can trade one of my pika for Mewtwo

Take one of them from me lol

[polar osprey]

oh yeah still no news regarding trading

sick

[normal cave]

Yeah I can part with a m2

But no trading yet

[frosty ledge]

I'm still wondering how they're actually gonna do trading

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/someday-spongebob-maybe-gif-4686651

[frosty ledge]

cause you gotta do it in such a way that doesn't invalidate your gacha

[polar osprey]

it's obvious

the special ticket they give us when we hit lv5

is 1000% be used for trading

they will probably give us like 1 per day/week

premium pass gets 2

and the account has to be linked to be able to trade

done

[pseudo goblet]

Do dailies and collect trade tickets…

[normal cave]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusting-gif-23219266

[polar osprey]

there's no way they will let non-linked accounts do trading

[pseudo goblet]

Lets hope I can get something worth from these with trade someday 💀

[normal cave]

I did promise you an m2 so there's that

Also sheeeesh 2 FA serp day 1

[pseudo goblet]

❗❗❗

‘DOESNT STACK’

[cunning shard]

Well celebi is fine for ladder expierecne but the moment you enter a tournament u win or loose by the the Coinflip and that pretty consistently

[frosty ledge]

pikachu is still probably the best tournament deck if you were to do that tbh

[pseudo goblet]

Its funny, weeks ago water deck dominate the comp, now its grass deck

[cunning shard]

That and m2 now I guess

[frosty ledge]

I know we've posted IDs in here before but I figured we should have a sheet for easy access

[normal cave]

[frosty ledge]

mewtwo lives and dies by gardevoir I feel like, I wouldn't run that in a tourney if I had a choice lol

[normal cave]

Will fill in later

[cunning shard]

How did water dominate shit when u literally have to Coinflip misty every game

[frosty ledge]

with my luck I draw all my ralts and mewtwo into topdecking pokeball

[normal cave]

Sometimes you win the flip enough times in a row

[pseudo goblet]

OOOOOOH ygo Discord Pocket tournament??

Whats the prize

Glory? Bragging rights?

[normal cave]

Bro do we want pika mirror spam

Ngl this discord is probably better at the game than most dedicated pocket communities

[pseudo goblet]

Dont have to, Lapras and Starmie EX without Misty still works, theres an era I didnt have her yet lmao

[cunning shard]

True always forget szarmie is actually good

[frosty ledge]

starmie is nuts

[pseudo goblet]

If only I have the second copy lmao

[normal cave]

I have 0 starmie. Only zard card I have 0 of I think.

[pseudo goblet]

Base starmie ‘probably’ works for make sure enemy dont get free 2 points

In my case

[cunning shard]

Man I hate set up mon

Where's my steel deck with frying pan

[normal cave]

Where is my aqua patch...

[polar osprey]

it got a lot better now with sigi and slab

it's the first deck with a proper turbo build

pika still wins the prize trade most of the time but should be fine to play now

[polar osprey]

it's gonna be cuno spam y'all love it

[normal cave]

I can't play cuno because I have 0 starmie

All I have is Dnite

[frosty ledge]

damn we out here running sigilyph?

I gotta get with the times

[pseudo goblet]

I wanted to say, side content really helps shadowed pokemon get some limelight on them

[normal cave]

Card draw good in your combo deck

[hasty anchor]

TCG does do a good job in putting most anything in the spotlight

[normal cave]

Except kadabra and porygon and jynx

[hasty anchor]

I think 151 did a pretty cool Jynx card, if memory serves

Well, at the least the attacks it had were interesting in theory

https://www.limitlesstcg.com/cards/MEW/124

[normal cave]

Uhhhh

Icy wind times 2 is enough to ko most things no?

[hasty anchor]

Stuff that does a one-hit KO in the TCG is always eye-catching, but almost always ends up to be too much effort

[normal cave]

Why would you ever need the ohko move when you 2hko anyways?

[hasty anchor]

Most I can say is that some ex can hit over 240 HP, but if you're dealing with that, then you got bigger problems

And Hypnotoxic Laser, the one item card that could make this absolutely bonkers, is long since rotated out

There's a few cards that can do the asleep thing, but that means using something that doesn't really do much of anything else, and not using a more conventional attacker.

But still, One-Hit KO! The words alone stand out, even if it isn't very practical.

[normal cave]

Yeah but it needs 3 energy just like your other move which is ok

[polar osprey]

raging bolts can easily hit for 300+ in one turn

[hasty anchor]

That it does!

[polar osprey]

it's a top 5 deck in the game rn and all it does is one hit kill over and over

consistently

[normal cave]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-its-a-giraffe-spongebob-squarepants-gif-16522065

[hasty anchor]

I just like the concept of such cards, cause it gets you thinking on the best way to use it.

[polar osprey]

drago can also hit for 280 pretty easily

[hasty anchor]

Other cases would be like, Kingambit (The Metal type one), in which if something has more than 4 damage counters, using an attack would knock out the active battler

The one that gets top billing for such an effect would be Roaring Moon ex, which just straight-up has no requirement for dealing a one-hit KO, but a big downside in having to deal 200 damage to itself.

[normal cave]

This is only worth if you are facing down a 500 hp mon

[pseudo goblet]

Dena, you re shitty company, but do consider adding Goomy and Rowlet to Pocket

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-pokemon-gif-23984349

[polar osprey]

another missed expeditioner lets gooooooo

wonder picked like 8 times today

missed every single one of them

including one with 3 sigi

[normal cave]

Thievul and clod hard countered the final boss. Magician is broken in this game.

[latent sleet]

i got crown mew

poggers if i say so myself

[normal cave]

Big pog even

[pseudo goblet]

I HAVE NOTHING ABOVE 2 STARS

[spice rivet]

Missed my target frame by 2, but I finally know how the BDSP blink method of RNG manipulation works pog.

Should be able to get Giratina for tomorrow, but Shiny Arceus is another can of worms

[pseudo goblet]

@normal cave @mighty storm @frosty ledge yo free pack from dev again

[mighty storm]

yup we're getting 12 hourglasses for the first 3 days (36 total)

[pseudo goblet]

Again, why not 120

[mighty storm]

2 Images, 1 deck ;p

[pseudo goblet]

Can Serperior fix Grass’s slow energy

By that I mean replace Lilligent in Venusaur deck

More cards needed sure but less energy

[mighty storm]

gosh this deck is so much fun

[maiden flax]

Hmmm okay yeah the Mewtwo garde deck with mythical slab is pretty insane

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/RealSpaceJunk/status/1854224985461506107?t=pIJ2bbkYS8nXiwdJbOVejQ&s=19

Real Space Junk (@RealSpaceJunk) on X

Twitter · Nov 6, 2024, 6:11 PM

[sonic inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/raxdflipnote-meme-gif-3914937335619787342

[warm sky]

Oh wait there's another version

https://twitter.com/RealSpaceJunk/status/1858582387082350847?t=Bz-bn9RYdglis3lG_Nhm6g&s=19

Real Space Junk (@RealSpaceJunk) on X

Twitter · Nov 18, 2024, 6:45 PM

[normal cave]

Pokerogue down

[pseudo goblet]

Temporary?

[normal cave]

Ye

Update/patch it seems

So a good down, but still I wanna play it...

Also, playing unite again. Leafeon is so fun...

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/DTierTL/status/1668036988656664577?t=R64P5jvLWoai8o53rRBOQw&s=19

D Tier Translator (JP to EN) (@DTierTL) on X

My Leafeon's not what I expected.

Twitter · Jun 11, 2023, 11:26 PM

[normal cave]

Yesssss eeveelutions are cats

Pokerogue still down

[pseudo goblet]

Starting to feel we need a intervention

[normal cave]

Apparently they had an error on their side

Not permanently down, but not good

[viral ingot]

Man, I got absolutely slaughtered by Celebi using Pikachu EX.

Time to switch to Blaine or something

[pseudo goblet]

am I the only one here who using fire deck after new set??

[random stream]

Phew

[maiden flax]

The moment that serp goes down fear begins

[sonic inlet]

Isn't that... the intent for them coming in the same pack...

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/tL2zyMo0jsU1lZi/status/1869320685669191904?t=TGKFCzazWyKPt5UWZFtHhw&s=19 @normal cave

あいうえお (@tL2zyMo0jsU1lZi) on X

寒いよオオタチちゃん…

Twitter · Dec 18, 2024, 9:55 AM

[maiden flax]

Yes

[sonic inlet]

[normal cave]

[pseudo goblet]

@normal cave

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-mario-swiping-table-angry-yelling-gif-26777092

[pseudo goblet]

[normal cave]

[normal cave]

Man, we really do need trading

[pseudo goblet]

To me now, Everybody has different destiny, most people get EX fate, a few chosen people for crown and immersive, Me? Common full arts, unfortunately, THOSE ARE THE LEAST USEFUL RARE CARDS

Imma go burn a few people and their precious onion fairy…

[normal cave]

Enjoy

[pseudo goblet]

And~ Im immediately fighting a Articuno deck, Fuck me man

[mighty storm]

you going to build totem bloom?

[pseudo goblet]

Tf is this deck

[pseudo goblet]

Seeing snake even more often is probably the last thing I want rn

[mighty storm]

definitely a top contender of the miniset

[pseudo goblet]

https://vxtwitter.com/amonilust/status/1869336884759138744?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw

[normal cave]

Pokerogue still down

At least they know what the problem is and are working on it

[maiden flax]

@normal cave pokerogue is back

[normal cave]

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-yay-cheer-cheering-applause-gif-21770221

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/QuilGlitch/status/1869146845441839556/photo/1

Quil (@QuilGlitch) on X

Twitter · Dec 17, 2024, 10:25 PM

[normal cave]

Tis lomf

[maiden flax]

do you know a way to contact the devs? cause gigaton hammer is supposed to make it so you can select it twice, not that you cant use it twice as it currently has it

[hasty anchor]

The game really loves to drop these things on me when I least expect it.

Just going along, only ever expecting a big encounter every 10 waves

and then surprise! It's an UB invasion.

At least I have Kartana now, meaning Combee's getting the boot again

Sorry combee

I got surprised by Nagandel way more times than I'd like to admit

So just in case any of you want to try your own favorite's challenge;

You can likely, as far as mine goes, pick Torchic, Wooper, Mawile, or Rookidee

Was halfway tempted to mention Sprigatito instead of Mawile at first, but it's still very close

Feels like there could be some standardization when it comes to this kind of unofficial challenge

[mighty storm]

this should fix my pack schedule now that I opened both at 1

[frosty ledge]

yessss finally

[flat wing]

Clover is a fun romhack ngl

[hasty anchor]

what

[flat wing]

Pokemon clover
4chan romhack made by \vp
Unironically a good game, gameplay/mechanics wise

[hasty anchor]

All I know is there's supposively very questionable mon designs last I heard of it.

Little alien guy above is alright though

[pseudo goblet]

Girafarig outbreak ending in few hours

https://x.com/sarent_stuff/status/1869408521370112248?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw

Sarent (@sarent_stuff) on X

Mew 😭😭

Twitter · Dec 18, 2024, 3:44 PM

QwQ

[hasty anchor]

You're gonna make me steal from Phantump? Really?

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-alerted-the-horse-horse-gt-when-the-gif-24722142

Unfortunately had to KO it

[cunning shard]

Got a 2nd

[hasty anchor]

Argh, finally, Geeta shows up. I think that's possibly the last champion I need for earning those vouchers.

Also: Oh man I'm just remembering how much of a bop the Battle! theme is.

[hasty anchor]

Certified Hall of Famer

[daring pine]

@pseudo goblet your wallet hand it over

[polar osprey]

finally got 2 sigil

and 2 slab

just need the mew supporter

also according to the datamines and the data we have if you start saving every single hourglass you get from today onwards you will only have enough for 28.5 packs when the next set comes out Jan 30

events taken into account

[mighty storm]

"Symph, the horse is here"

ominous neiighing

[pseudo goblet]

Depends lol

Looks like Plamo but also no

[daring pine]

So what would make you spend money

I'm taking this as survey for bandai

[pseudo goblet]

Pokemon only or other shits I do?

[daring pine]

Pokemon only for this channel

[pseudo goblet]

Idk, maybe non electronic toys, for some reason I cant stop thinking of those pokemon figures with voices in them lol

Hard to imagine what Bandai can do without getting in their rich-ass heads

[golden lance]

That's so low wtf

[polar osprey]

that's also counting the daily 12 hourglasses we are getting for this pack

[golden lance]

Gonna be honest

Considering the dropping the game altogether if trading turns out to be gimped

[polar osprey]

a lot of people are

if they make gimped trading to milk the whales the games economy will probably drop like a rock and they are gonna panic

so many people I know are just waiting to see if trading is good to decide if they are gonna keep playing or not

and Idk if dena understands how important it's gonna be to keep players engaged in pocket

something tells me they just put it in the game as a last minute addition to keep the trading in trading card game

[golden lance]

Ngl this may be the fumble of the century and it will be extremly funny to watch

[polar osprey]

if trading comes out fucked and they take longer than a week or 2 to fix it Idt the game will ever be able to recover

and collecting digital cards becomes a lot less cooler when it's not the fotm

whales won't have anyone to show off to

btw moltress ex is part of the next premium pass reward

first it was mewtwo accessories, then pika and now zard

just with moltress ex over an exclusive full art

they are probably trying to see if giving people cool arts or good cards makes them more willing to get the pass

[golden lance]

Wont the moltres be an alt art?

[polar osprey]

yes but not full art

the answer is obviously full art

people that buy the pass are dolphins and whales and the overlap between those and people that have multiple moltress already is huge

[golden lance]

How would that work? They show off the 3d model in a different angle?

[polar osprey]

yes it's exactly that

[golden lance]

Incredible

[polar osprey]

also the way they keep advertising pika, m2 and zard tells me they thought this would be a triangle meta

in reality fucking blaine is better than zard and arcanine does what zard does but better in every single way

but yeah idt it's even worth saving up

if you save everything religiously for a month and a half you don't even get 3 multis

might as well leave everything to luck

and this is counting everything everything

the shop hourglasses, events everything

dailies give you 168 glasses

[golden lance]

But yea idk what their gameplan is, to have most players just logging for the daily packs and never touching the shop or the ladder

[polar osprey]

Idk how they want to sell their overpriced cosmetics if they don't have anything for the players to use them on

the obvious move with a game like this would be making so a min rarity deck is stupid easy to get but make alt arts rare as fuck

and not making people do 6 multis for a playset of commons

which they need to save up for like 3 months for to do in 1 day

[golden lance]

Also whats the actual point of those premium cosmetics you can only get with shop tickets? Yknow, the currency you cabt get by whaling

[polar osprey]

you can

you need to dismantle gold and immersive arts for it

it's for the giga whales

[golden lance]

Nice

But yea i wonder how long the "mainstream" popularity will last

[polar osprey]

about as long as go did

6 months

[golden lance]

Unite and masters as still managing somewhat

[polar osprey]

masters is going down

probably by the next year

last anni barely made a million

they are probably moving every single resource from masters towards pocket since it's the same team

[golden lance]

Huh, news to me

[polar osprey]

and pocket made 200 million in the first month

Idk how unite is up either

it's not like even top 5 most profitable mobas

the 1st one is honor of the kings made by the same fucking company that made unite

there's a pattern here with pokemon mobile games btw

excessively expensive and stingy

get carried by IP and make a fuck ton of money in the first year then get giga greedy and fumble the bag

unites black friday sale was 5 skins for 150 or something

they thought that was a good deal

[golden lance]

Never forget pokemon duel

[polar osprey]

oh btw

unite has this super expensive gacha skin system

that's on average 200 bucks for the skin ok?

[pseudo goblet]

[polar osprey]

ok so for the 3rd skin of this year they released the pika skin

you know what they did?

doubled the amount of tickets you need to get skins of this tier moving forward

so now it's like 500 bucks for a skin

[golden lance]

Pls tell me people bought it anyway

[polar osprey]

ofc they did

it's Chinese oriented

the Chinese whales ate it

well Idk for the global server

you see unite has 2 servers now

this skin came out for the Chinese server earlier

and today just released in global

and you know damn well that if the global audience doesn't like the omega expensive skins and start spending less money on the game they are just gonna close global instead of trying to fix it

[golden lance]

Oh they moved to a dual server model now?

[polar osprey]

no it's still 2 servers

they are just importing skins from the Chinese server to global

we are getting more features the Chinese server has in the future

[golden lance]

Day 1 had only one server tho no?

[polar osprey]

yeah

the chinese version came out this year

it's like

50000x better

has A LOT of improved features

the lobby is a place you can walk around with your avatar and mon

and interact with your mon and other players and their mons

it has minigames

proper ui and stuff

the ranked mode is also more polished

so they basically gave China everything and for us just give their skins at 50x the price

the hope people have is that the reason we haven't gotten the Chinese client is that the switch can't handle it and they are waiting for the switch 2

but the way they are milking people makes it look like wishful thinking and that they are just gonna pump and dump global

[golden lance]

Gachas amirite

[polar osprey]

SUMMARY OF UPCOMING POCKET EVENTS

BATTLE EVENT
Dec 20 to Jan 10
. 24 hourglasses

CHRISTMAS EVENT
. 36 hourglasses

POKEGOLD DISCOUNT
25.Dec to 08.Jan

OUTBRAKE LIGHTNING EVENT
26.Dec to 01.Jan
Mystery choice with lightning cards (highlighting Zapdos ex)

NEW YEAR'S EVENT
01.Jan to 08.Jan
. 24 hourglasses

PREMIUM - JANUARY
. Moltres ex card

BLASTOISE EX EVENT
01.Jan - 15.Jan
. 20 hourglasses

CHANSEY EVENT - Part 01
08.jan - 22.jan
Mystery choice
Benefits:
. Promo cards A32, A33 (Charmander, Squirtle)
. 01 Blue display
. 01 Temple themed display
. 01 Blastoise binder cover

CHANSEY EVENT - Part 02
15.jan - 22.jan
Mystery choice
Benefits:
. Continues with promo cards A32, A33 (Charmander, Squirtle)
. 01 Blastoise Shield
. 01 Blastoise Playmat
. 01 Blastoise Coin
. 01 Blastoise Icon

BATTLE EVENT
Jan 20 to Jan 27
. 24 hourglasses

PSYCHIC OUTBRAKE EVENT
Dec 26 to Jan 01
Mysterious choice with psychic cards (highlighting Mew ex)

@golden lance this is why we are getting fuck all for pulls

events only give 20-36 hourglasses

imagine any other gacha where the events only gave you 2-3 fucking pulls

[golden lance]

I can

Cross duel gave you 0.5 per event

And ranked rewards didnt reset monthly

And daily gems were rng based

[polar osprey]

hourglass is a great system to make the rewards look bigger than they actually are

over it being 500 gems or something per pull so people could rationalize how little they are getting per event better

this also just disincentivizes people from engaging with the game even more

[golden lance]

It works because 90% of rewards is stardust

[polar osprey]

since events only give you a day worth of pulls if not less

[golden lance]

So you get you're getting a lot of stuff when that currency is literally useless

[polar osprey]

some of those are giving out 20 fucking hourglasses

"thanks for playing this event for 2+ hours here is a single pull"

[viral ingot]

lmao, after months, we get a Moltres EX card for premium.

[polar osprey]

also you can bet your ass I'm never gonna pull the zapdos ex in the outbreak event

[viral ingot]

And I already got my 2.

[polar osprey]

but this one is different bro

it's posing in a different angle

but yeah

[viral ingot]

Just like the Greninja one!

[polar osprey]

so

[viral ingot]

We're eatin' good, boys. 😉

[polar osprey]

the greninja one at least changes the art

this one is the same 3d model

but in a different pose

but yeah we are getting 28.5 fucking pulls total

in almost 2 months

counting the shop hourglasses for both months, dailies and events

3 multis

not even 3 multis

[viral ingot]

Yeah, pretty damn decent rewards for Christmas and the New Years...if only those will be constant. 😭

[polar osprey]

that's not decent

I have never seen a game being this stingy with Christmas and new years rewards ever

if fucking genshin pulled this the community would be rioting

[viral ingot]

You should see Duel Links and Master Duel.

[polar osprey]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I have literally

LITERALLY

over 8k cards

almost every card in the game

every single staple

on md

by just playing daily

not even laddering half the time

[viral ingot]

[polar osprey]

md might be the single most generous gacha ever period

[viral ingot]

Damn, I've been doing the same don't even have that much.

[polar osprey]

dl is also A LOT more generous than this and was like 50x more generous in the first 3 years

if dl gave you 30 packs for Christmas and new years total people would be saying the game was nearing eos

[golden lance]

Fun fact

Dl is now more generous than it was at launch

[polar osprey]

also

[viral ingot]

Thankfully. We get some nice dream tickets due to the large card pool they gathered.

[polar osprey]

take the dust system into account for pocket

you need 10 fucking multis

to spark for an ex

[golden lance]

You get a dream ticket (basically) every month now

Its pretty nice

[polar osprey]

in their Christmas and new years season with everything taken into account and over 2 months of saving

you don't get 1/3 of the resources needed to spark for ONE ex

that's just

Idk what to even say

they could cut the pack points needed to craft cards in half and they would still cost too much

[golden lance]

Btw need

[polar osprey]

also the pack points not transferring between sets

this won't be an issue for now

but when decks need staples from like 3 different sets

even if they are commons

they are gonna be impossible to build

bcs the amount of pack points you need even to craft commons is super high

[golden lance]

Gonna be honestly thats the least of my concerns

[polar osprey]

not making pack points transferable is insanity

[golden lance]

Its rotation

[polar osprey]

I think they are gonna announce eos the month after rotation lol

[golden lance]

Packs having a expiration date of 3 months is insane

[polar osprey]

it's gonna completely turn down whales from collecting

and make building certain decks impossible

they are gonna have to back down on that or the game is not lasting until 2026

also shows they have 0 concern about actual gameplay

like imagine being a new player wanting to play plant decks and then you can't pull for serperior

[golden lance]

They have 0 concern about anything

[polar osprey]

you are just gonna uninstall

or in the future if they don't add better consistency tools after sigi and slab rotate lmao

[golden lance]

This is just a tcg trying to replicate 1:1 the gacha system without considering that tcgs arent just 2d genshin impact

The product isnt redundant

[polar osprey]

making packs rotate out is gonna make the game unplayable

literally

[viral ingot]

Yeah, it's an oddball that they separate the pack pts from each expansion. But it all hinges on whether they do set rotation or not. Along with Trading coming soon, there's so many odd choices that may hinge on whether we can trade or not.

[polar osprey]

new player tries to join and needs a staple they literally can't get to complete their deck

wyt they are gonna do?

[viral ingot]

They have to daily pull to get pack pts.

[polar osprey]

no you don't get it

packs leave the shop

every 3 months

you can't get the fucking cards anymore

until they rerun

[golden lance]

Oh boy i sure want to get pikachu ex

[polar osprey]

like a regular gacha

[pseudo goblet]

Whats your price

[golden lance]

0$ i got the deck already

[viral ingot]

There hasn't been enough time to rerun those cards like Lapras EX imo. Gotta wait

[golden lance]

Now caterpie tho

Now we're talking

[polar osprey]

we are not talking about the promo stuff

we straight up know this from the files

the packs rotate out

every 12 weeks

the regular ass packs

[golden lance]

And yea what needle ranted multiple times already

[polar osprey]

if they don't change that the game is gonna speedrun eos

bcs it will be impossible for new players to get into it

not because of the exes but because of the common staples

[golden lance]

Why do ♦️ ♦️ ♦️ cards cost 150 dust per copy?

[viral ingot]

Do you have a link to that? I didn't hear of that.

[golden lance]

Why do ♦️ cost 7 packs worth of dust each?

Why is stardust the most useless thing ever?

[polar osprey]

it's from an older datamine

btw choccy

they are gonna 1000000% use trading as an excuse to do that

[viral ingot]

Not even a Reddit thread discussing it?

[polar osprey]

"well you can just trade cards from older rotated out sets with your friends"

[viral ingot]

Along with the fact you only need two-ofs maximum.

To be stingy.

[polar osprey]

ask your friend for a dragion ptcg style

[golden lance]

I love the amount of possible angles they can take to make trading completely unviable

Its really fun

[polar osprey]

we pretty much know the mysterious ticket is for that

we only got it as a level up reward and nothing else

they can just give you like 1 per day as a daily reward and 2 if you have premium pass

restrict it only to sets that aren't the newest one

and restrict it to 4 diamonds and below

[mighty storm]

Trident Dragon meme but it's Misty instead

[polar osprey]

if they make so you can only trade for the same rarity or something the game is gonna sink

bcs they made getting commons absurdly hard

I for one am willing to trade one of my 7 full art rapidashes for a caterpie or whatever

[viral ingot]

Didn't they do the same "rarity" trade thing in PoGo?

Like Legendary for Legendary?

[polar osprey]

99.9% of the pockets playerbase never touched ptcgo

and they are gonna be livid if they can't trade up or down

again

especially with how hard to get they made commons in this game

I have 3 mews and no explorer

I would trade a mew ex for one

[viral ingot]

Trading a vulpix for a Zapdos EX sounds rife for abuse tho.

[golden lance]

Tbf

Ptcgo let you do that

The game managed

[mighty storm]

The shinedust or whatever is like so worthless

[polar osprey]

you need 20k shinedust to upgrade a high rarity card

[golden lance]

Because trading actually had a huge skill ceiling

[polar osprey]

or was it 200k?

it was something super absurd

[viral ingot]

Yeah, shine dust being for aesthetics only is probably the point.

[golden lance]

It requiring a shitton of stardust AND dupes is so fucking stupid

"oh yea i totally have 8 fucking full art mistys just laying around"

[viral ingot]

Unless you're using promos, it's just a trap to waste your duplicates when you could probably trade those away for better stuff.

[polar osprey]

the game seems made to milk casual whales and nothing else

the issue is casual whales jump ship the second a game isn't the fotm anymore

[golden lance]

Game's so scummy the feds are investigating for possible money laundering

[polar osprey]

nah I saw the dkayed whales chat

[pseudo goblet]

https://x.com/ryosuketarou/status/1869023382119051468?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw

タケウチ　リョースケ (@ryosuketarou) on X

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Twitter · Dec 17, 2024, 2:14 PM

[polar osprey]

they have a bunch of billionaire nepo babies and actual Saudi princes whaling in there

the issue is that again those people will jump ship the second that game isn't the fotm anymore

[golden lance]

But yea

Pocket isnt a game or was ever designed to be one

Its a png collector

[polar osprey]

also it's flabbergasting how much those giga rich whales lack in social skills

I wonder if they are the disappointment of their rich families or something