#Pokemon

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golden lance
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Ayy

pseudo goblet
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Your second one?

golden lance
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Still need 2 moltres tho

golden lance
hasty anchor
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Hoppip~

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Ayyyyyy nice!

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You're at the top!

pseudo goblet
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Yall have 12+ hours for this ig, damn it I want new cards KEKW

random stream
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ty all BlobTriumph

pseudo goblet
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Gives this man a trophy

hasty anchor
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Most heartwarming thing about this; Ren stuck to Clefable all the way

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I dunno what these words mean

cunning shard
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sweet got my 2nd mew2 ex of wonderpick

mighty storm
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So the Silvally discs? Yeah they have literal arceus plates pieces in them

sterile verge
mighty storm
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OH starters for ZA got leaked

sterile verge
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Time to leave the thread again

mighty storm
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||Chespin, Froakie, and Fennekin but " something is different"||

pseudo goblet
sterile verge
sterile verge
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I love taiko no tatsujin

mighty storm
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In that case, I think I know who my ZA starter will be

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||Unless they do a Kyubimon to Braixen/Delphox, then maybe Fennekin||

pseudo goblet
mighty storm
pseudo goblet
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We have that already at home

mighty storm
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Never did manage to find a shiny ninetails

pseudo goblet
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I think Im only missing Shiny K-Vulpix of this family

maiden flax
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Aaron "Cybertron" Zheng is a competitive Pokemon player who is famous for missing like 5 will-o-wisps in one match and the reason many people suspect the accuracy increase for will-o-wisp even happened to begin with lol

pseudo goblet
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Will o wisp had lower accuracy ConcernedFroge

fading stratus
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it had 75% accuracy

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that said game was top 4 of 2013 worlds

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you can probably find its clip on yt somewhere

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that game singlehandedly got (probably) twave, swagger nerfed and will o wisp buffed

pseudo goblet
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Giving up on Ghastly and Haunter for the moment, cant deal with them spawning in walls

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Iirc Gengar is in every single main line game anyway, probably can get the prevos shiny in later times peeposhrug

pseudo goblet
normal cave
fading stratus
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1068 is just 1002 more than 66

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close enough

pseudo goblet
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Somebody said this once I think, true Moba players HATES moba

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Tbf, your team choices of mons doesnt seem like the most ideals

normal cave
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Defs not

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I could have gone bre and we'd have a more well-rounded team

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Cinder tried to steal all 3 lanes and we were busy playing merry-go-round with the bunny

pseudo goblet
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Idk how Mimikyu plays peeposhrug

normal cave
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Assassin

normal cave
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Jump in, kill a key threat in the backline

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Good at 1v1, not exactly a carry

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You bully the lane early game and then you snipe their carry or support in fights mid/late game

pseudo goblet
normal cave
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You are not meant to be the main carry, you help the team by essentially removing one mon from the game

normal cave
pseudo goblet
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Just steal the opponent jungle cheems

normal cave
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Zeraora tried to play, I'll give him credit. But he was lagging like crazy.

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Not his fault at all

pseudo goblet
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Im not even back to that mess and yet Im already having headaches

normal cave
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Tbh it'd be a lot less annoying if they agreed to the multiple surrender votes we tried while we were locked down in our base

pseudo goblet
normal cave
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Yeah, they worked well together

cunning shard
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stacks is normal at higher elo

normal cave
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After I sniped their mewtwo a few times, they were always there to peel me off him

cunning shard
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back on release months i played with some random on twitch i was his support he played cinderace and we swept like 95% of the game super onsides

normal cave
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I couldn't isolate any target anymore since they were always grouped in the mid-late game

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On the bright side, I did get to bully them a bit in the early game and help my pika lane partner grow

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And pika and I did bully them off one regieleki.

normal cave
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The SQUAD

warm sky
pseudo goblet
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Autumn Coil (literally what it says and Coil is the japanese name)

pseudo goblet
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Finally, first Shiny for the last 2 weeks or so, Female Misdreavus with mark, which one? Idk yet

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Found out midway that Misdreavus is Violet exclusive for some reason, so this is unintentionally best choice

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Oooooh Crafty Mark, the one with event boost, where was this luck when Im doing the Beldum hunt cheems

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And a second one after sandwich ran out, perfect, no mark tho, @mighty storm got your Flutter Mane new baby sisters

normal cave
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The other team played really well, as did my gardy/absol. Any time we tried to score, there was someone there to block it. Any time we went off the goal, someone was applying pressure. Very coordinated team. But my gardy was a beast, it took them sending 4 bot to finally stop our combo from steamrolling the mewtwo/darkrai lane.

vagrant steppe
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Dont have to open Pikachu anymore

normal cave
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Ayy

vagrant steppe
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Do I switch to Charizard or Mewtwo?

normal cave
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Look at your collection to decide

golden lance
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Zard

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Better card quality overall

normal cave
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How many sabrinas/gios do you have?

pseudo goblet
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Join us Mewtwo prisoners grabHands1 grabHands2

vagrant steppe
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2+ of both

fading stratus
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play misty

vagrant steppe
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I've got misty too

normal cave
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What are your exs looking like?

vagrant steppe
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I guess I'm hearing Zard?

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3 Arcanine Ex, 1 Venusaur and a few others

normal cave
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What is a few others? Need exact

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Because 1 venu puts you in the direction of mewtwo

vagrant steppe
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I've got 1 Mewtwo ex

normal cave
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How many gardevoirs? How many weezings?

vagrant steppe
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No Gardevoir or weezing

normal cave
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Ah

vagrant steppe
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I only got the 1 Mewtwo from wonder pick

normal cave
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Zard ig.

pseudo goblet
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Oh hey, A Bruial pick

normal cave
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Better cards, and zard itself will likely be a good deck

normal cave
vagrant steppe
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Wasn't punished for the first Mewtwo pack tho

normal cave
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Dnite FA best FA in the game

vagrant steppe
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It is really good

normal cave
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So cozy and friend shaped

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Dnite itself is also a fun deck

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But yeah probs stick to zard from here on out.

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I am pulling mewtwo because I am one venu ex off playing venu, and 1 mewtwo ex off playing mewtwo.

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But I would rather pull zard if I wasn't so close

vagrant steppe
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Here's my EX and FA so far

pseudo goblet
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Chat, which outbreak should I do, Bramblin or Shuppet

pseudo goblet
normal cave
vagrant steppe
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Any new ones and I'll have to split the binder into 2

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Since it's 30/30 rn

pseudo goblet
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Not shaming

normal cave
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Oh that's the premium pikachu

vagrant steppe
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The trial was free for 2 weeks

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Imma just cancel it once that free period ends

normal cave
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Tbf you also have a job

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So like, no shame in paying for a hobby

vagrant steppe
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Yeah but there's better things to spend money on

normal cave
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Fair fair

pseudo goblet
vagrant steppe
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14 extra packs and a few cosmetics is nice tho

normal cave
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Tbf I now live in a war economy, and I'm unemployed ever since I was discharged from the war. So I can't afford to.

pseudo goblet
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Bruial you havent see my literal chest full of beyblades have you lmao

normal cave
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Nope

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Have you seen my two Bionicle chests?

pseudo goblet
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Nope thmile

pseudo goblet
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Wtf, either I just found a Wild Ditto WITHOUT disguise because I failed the sandwich, reset and it didnt load properly- or code decides the Ditto DISGUISED as Ditto

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Since that happened to a Zorua diguise as Zorua a while back

mighty storm
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third moltres ex

normal cave
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Chomp declared bot, and then decided to duo jungle with our gengar

pseudo goblet
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Well, first interesting pack in a while, with new sound and all, why not give me Mewtwo EX tho Hahaa

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That my 3rd EX Venusaur, I have 4 in total

normal cave
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ayy, fa pidge tho

pseudo goblet
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Yea, got 2 set of the line

mighty storm
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big frog

random stream
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Glad you're enjoying unite @normal cave ahri4

normal cave
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I ammmm

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REN

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If I were to play a support for solo q, what do I get?

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So far I've been using Umbreon as a support when I feel like the team could use one

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Well, I still have time until I can afford the next mon, so nyaruhodo

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So far I have at least one mon of each role except support.

normal cave
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Where are all the laprases at AWAAAAAA

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I'll soon have enough monkeys to open a dubious research facility

young river
normal cave
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The frosmoth one is fine but fucking pincurchin is not

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Investing 2 energy into your unreliable stall tool is bad. Frosmoth gets a pass because of misty.

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The weezing one runs dark energy, despite the article explaining why that is a bad idea.

random stream
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Blissey is also very strong right now

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Wigglytuff is reliable

normal cave
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Bliss, wiggly, and maaaaybe cleff. Got it.

polar osprey
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play blissy and get a friend to lane with you on m2y

normal cave
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My friends are all too high of a rank

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And if I wanted to tag team I could just play comfey

polar osprey
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blissy is better than comfey with m2y

normal cave
polar osprey
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and Imo that's arguably the strongest lane setup rn so that's why I recommended it

normal cave
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Ah, I see

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Yeah but I have no friends to do that with

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At least, not on ranked

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That is, unless anyone from here is around vet rank?

polar osprey
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probably mr. mime for solo then

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it does really good damage and it's all in on cc

normal cave
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Damn, I hate mime tho

polar osprey
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the others rely too much on having 1 (ONE) person on your team that doesn't suck major ass

normal cave
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Second ugliest evolution line in the game

polar osprey
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and you should know by now that's too much to ask for

polar osprey
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again the hoopa example

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probably the best support rn

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great normals, very versatile

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but it's actual hell to play in solo bcs it requires your teammates to get in the fucking hole

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and then comeback from it

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I advice against anything that requires player input from your teammates in solo

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at least until you reach master

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I also advice against laddering on Sunday also known as today

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bcs today is when all the casuals, mostly children, play

normal cave
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Btw Mimikyu has been soooo fun fluff

polar osprey
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mimikyu is a solo monster

normal cave
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Just pick one guy and delete them

polar osprey
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if the person doesn't know how to tackle him he picks up infinite kos

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and most people don't know how to play against it

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or actively ignore the shadow sneak markings and everything

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"what's this above my mons head? Eh, doesn't matter, fuck it we ball"

normal cave
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It took one team I faced like 8 kills to finally learn how to shut me down. Which sucked because I was the only one capable of doing anything to them.

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They grouped up all 5 and instantly used all their cooldowns once I shadow sneaked in

normal cave
polar osprey
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did you get darkrai?

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the event ends today iirc

normal cave
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No

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I was only halfway done, I started the event too late.

polar osprey
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it's ok he is hella boring to play

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but broken

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you could use him to speedrun the ladder

normal cave
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Yeah but then I'd be a bad player in a rank too high for my skill

polar osprey
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for solo you probably play the nasty plot build tho since the dark pulse is horrid at securing objectives

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one of the worst mons in the game at getting objectives done with the dark pulse build

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takes like 40 seconds or some shit to solo a regi

normal cave
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Dark pulse is the really huge group of circles he keeps shitting out ye?

polar osprey
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ye

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and makes him invincible

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really good at getting in an out of battles

normal cave
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Hate that move

polar osprey
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but has shit burst damage with it

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nasty plot does a fuck ton of burst damage

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so it's much better at objectives

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even if dark pulse is better in general

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not that the nasty plot build is bad

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you can play nasty plot ult merchant build since no mon can survive a darkrais ult with 2 nasty plot counters

normal cave
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Darkrai is a bit much yeah

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Gonna be fun going through this again once psyduck releases

polar osprey
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a bit?

normal cave
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...no clue what psyduck does to be clear

polar osprey
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games come down to who has the better darkrai in their team on ultra

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and the team not on darkrai just loses

normal cave
polar osprey
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he has a 95% ban rate in master rn

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and keeps going up

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bro gonna reach 99% ban rate before the inevitable nerf

normal cave
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Yeah darkrai wins most games on vet too

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But like

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Everyone is bad in vet, including me

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Still annoying he kinda just bursts you down without letting you do anything

polar osprey
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he has mid on release

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so people weren't buying him with gems

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so the devs got mad

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and omega buffed him

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literally

normal cave
polar osprey
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not figuratively

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literally doubled the damage his ult did

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from 40% dot to 80%

normal cave
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Wh

polar osprey
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slashed all of his cooldowns

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and gave him like 20% more defense

normal cave
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80% of the target's health?

polar osprey
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he was supposed to be very squishy

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yes

normal cave
normal cave
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So he just

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Deletes anyone he ults from full health

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Unless you can beat him in his ult

polar osprey
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yes

normal cave
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Which happens rarely

polar osprey
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but if you play the ult merchant build with nasty plot like I said

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it's just impossible

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you just get 2 counters and then ult

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void into boosted attack with nasty plot

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done

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they are dead

normal cave
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Fun

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Does he get cd reduction on his ult too?

polar osprey
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he gets cooldown reduction on ITEMS with his ult also

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so if you play the ult spam build you can also spam eject button

normal cave
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Bruh

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Yeah no wonder he's so hard to face

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Still, he is beatable at vet

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Hard, but beatable

polar osprey
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I still haven't gotten to masters bcs I climb slowly so I was forced to play him 5? times in ranked already

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bcs no one else picked him

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he is stupid easy to play

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you just need to get used to dark pulse

normal cave
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The problem is, you have 4 other teammates

polar osprey
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but he is gonna feel like shit to play

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once he gets nerfed

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bcs he is a slow speedster

normal cave
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So he is carried purely by stats

polar osprey
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yes

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he felt pretty boring to play when he was normal so people weren't buying it

normal cave
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😔

polar osprey
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which is why we got what we have now

normal cave
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Couldn't have reworked him

polar osprey
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they rework mons sometimes

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but that takes time

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they needed to sell him asap

normal cave
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Or playtested him

polar osprey
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just making him delete anything he looks at is faster

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they are probably gonna rework him in like 2-3 months

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after nerfing him to death in 2

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my guess is the first thing to be reverted back is gonna be dark pulse

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bcs it's such a broken get out of jail card

normal cave
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Looks like I chose a fun time to get into the game

polar osprey
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you can even spawn on bushes after going down

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it makes him sooo slippery and hard to take down

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so my guess is

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the first nerf wave is gonna be reverting dark pulse and the stat changes

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so he becomes a squishy mon with a fuck on of burst damage with the nasty plot build

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still broken as fuck

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then they are gonna revert the unite back

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bcs 80% dot is just lmao

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it was 40% before which was too low

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they are just gonna settle for 50 is my guess

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then I think it's gonna be fine

normal cave
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all this could have been avoided with more playtesting

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smh

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ah well

random stream
mighty storm
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Found a new pokemon fangame, downloading it right now.

normal cave
polar osprey
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pikachu has 45% overall top cut rep in all events held so far

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and that includes more casual events

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take that as you will

normal cave
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Nice meta dena

polar osprey
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I really think they underestimated how much of a detriment inconsistency is

normal cave
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It looks like it, yeah. Coinflips are everywhere and card draw is scarce

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Wouldn't say pika is consistent by any other tcg standards

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It just requires less specific cards, so it's consistent for a pocket deck

polar osprey
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calling it now

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misty is gonna age like absolute shit

sleek sky
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was this their plan all along
Pikachu is finally top tier

polar osprey
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losing your supporter to do nothing half the time is an absurd detriment

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the second the game gets a bit faster it becomes too much

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the opportunity cost is too much

normal cave
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Misty is such a highroll card. You either win or lose the game on the spot with little to no agency

polar osprey
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also apparently the next main set is gonna completely powercreep what we have now

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from what I heard from leaks

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like every good deck rn is gonna be t500 bullshit

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so I think I'm saving until then

normal cave
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Fiiiiiine

polar osprey
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it's adding over 230 cards btw

pseudo goblet
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Found a shiny Bramblin just before updating my game to get Feraligatr raid, unable to get all the shiny ghost pensivecowboybread

polar osprey
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we have 226 total rn

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the next main set is gonna be bigger than the current one

normal cave
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I have dnite stall anyways. I don't need to use hourglasses.

polar osprey
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oh btw

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also unite "leaks"

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not really leaks almost confirmed

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this next season is gonna be the last season with the current ranked mode

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they are adding the Chinese version of ranked to the game which plays more like a traditional MOBA first as a casual mode then it's gonna overtake ranked

normal cave
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How long do games go there?

polar osprey
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no time limit

normal cave
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Because I do not have time for longer games.

polar osprey
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and it's not who scores more points

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but who gets to the point threshold which I forgot what it is now

normal cave
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Unless the point threshold is low and games wind up fast

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Tbf I did enjoy heroes of the storm

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A lot

polar osprey
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the theory

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this is not a leak anymore

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theory

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is that the reason we still have the bad unite is bcs the switch can't handle the chinese one

normal cave
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Hmmm

polar osprey
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it's a lot more polished and has a hub you can run around with your pokemon and meet with other trainers and shit

normal cave
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I'll give chinese unite a try

polar osprey
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idt you can

polar osprey
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ye

normal cave
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To the west

polar osprey
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it has mini games for you to play with your trainer and everything

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probably gonna take a while

normal cave
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Fuck my trainer I wanna play with the pokemon

polar osprey
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bcs if the issue is the switch they are gonna have to wait until the switch is phased out

pseudo goblet
polar osprey
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which is gonna take a year or 2

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after the switch 2 comes out

pseudo goblet
normal cave
pseudo goblet
mighty storm
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❤️

hasty anchor
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vulpix

fading stratus
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Which game is it summer

normal cave
hasty anchor
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Oooh, Atlas

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I might see what the buzz is about it

slim birch
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Finally

normal cave
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The Dnite hivemind welcomes you to the fold

hasty anchor
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Once again

Dragonite, Cinnamon roll

normal cave
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Wish me luck chat, I'm going in

hasty anchor
normal cave
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Gengar's like fine ig

normal cave
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Mien line lets you splash fighting in any deck for one colorless energy

hasty anchor
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Ah, cool! Colorless costs are always nice

normal cave
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It's an 80 health 40 damage one colorless attack fighting stage one. P good.

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The problem is that pika one shots it and an evo is inconsistent, so it's not worth the splash.

hasty anchor
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...This reminds me that Mienfoo is like, really nice but I hate how it has such a long time til it does evolve.

normal cave
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Same...

hasty anchor
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From what I remember it does so at level 50, which was alright in Black/White... but XY has you meeting it much, much earlier

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Like, level 13 if memory serves

normal cave
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I always want it on my teams in runs, but level 50 is too steep

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Half this channel plays or played dnite

hasty anchor
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At least the concept is really cool. Monk Weasel is a cool concept compared to the more typical fighting types based on various modern martial arts

normal cave
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Is it just me or is this thing just a worthless scam?

polar osprey
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it is

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literally

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don't interact with it

hasty anchor
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It looks like just a bunch of cosmetics to me

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I say you'd be fine not using it.

normal cave
normal cave
hasty anchor
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Ahhh

void herald
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mons taking a million years to evolve is easily my least favorite thing about gen 5 tbh

normal cave
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...oh fuck chat I can't build Dnite Weezing. I only have 1 Koffing.

void herald
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why does rufflet need to be like level 50 to evolve

normal cave
void herald
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if this were any other gen it would have evolved in the late 20s or something

normal cave
polar osprey
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I like how hydreigon is basically useless in vanilla bw bcs by the time you get it you are already done with 99% of the game

normal cave
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But gen 5 evo requirements are bullshit

normal cave
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Volcarona is only good in game in bw2 because, again, overworld encounter.

polar osprey
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lv50 stage 1 evo is also insane for hydreigon

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the entire line is just completely useless

pseudo goblet
normal cave
normal cave
pseudo goblet
hasty anchor
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XY just highlights a lot of it, given you can find Mienfoo very early on in Coastal Kalos

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As well as Axew in the Zubat Roost!

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...Of course in XY you get like so many busted stuff way earlier to compensate. Like, say, a Level 15 Snorlax

polar osprey
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xy could really have used the 3rd version

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they fucked up the universal xp share bcs it was their first time using it and the progression was also all over the place

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easiest thing to fix with a third version

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same thing with diamond and pearl

hasty anchor
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XY was definitely a nice game. Balanced? Hahaha... no, not at all.

polar osprey
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and then platinum was amazing

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z could have been that

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sadly it was scraped

hasty anchor
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The new EXP mechanics that were not refined until Sun/Moon and even later in Sword/Shield were not there, so you could with some diligent battling just get way too jacked real quick

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And of course there's Mega Evolution, which I think is a good bit too faithful in how rare and unique it is, since only you and a couple other trainers actually use it

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Which, yeah, it ought to be very uncommon given the requirements, but all bets are off on how much you can break a game in half when all you really need to win any battle is just Mega Evolve like, anything.

polar osprey
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also apparently live has started to go through a process of enshittification

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the battle pass rewards there got a lot worse and shit

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I wonder if that has to do with pocket coming out

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also they are trying to make the game way more casual

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and apparently fucked up HARD

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they changed the amount of xp you get for winning and losing and apparently are giving way too much battle pass exp for losing

hasty anchor
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I would say XY didn't need a third version, but possibly an updated release that did patch a few things up. But it's not a game people look up to for the gameplay for a reason.

But in contrast it was a definitely good era for people in the competitive business. Sites like Smogon loved XY for that.

polar osprey
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so now the meta for farming is the same as early md

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people are just going to ladder with suicide decks

hasty anchor
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But you rarely hear about the games themselves, and it just got shafted when Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire hit the scene.

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I really like XY, but even I'll admit it's got problems.

normal cave
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Dnite managed to find the only losing line: 150 into their metapod and 50 venu, into 150 venu/50 bulba

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And even then it was super close because zebra threatened to snipe their backline if they did not topdeck exactly their evolution card (which they did)

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Made up for it next game by doing this

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All these nerds not on red card. Or on red card plus scope.

maiden flax
pseudo goblet
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Should I buy the monthly Wonder Hourglasses OgreThink

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Boring pack once again

mighty storm
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Yes get the monthly hourglasses

pseudo goblet
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Or should I save for next month Normal hourglasses OgreThink

maiden flax
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100 packs
1 Articuno ex and 1 Giovanni/Sabrina left to get

mighty storm
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get the regular ones

pseudo goblet
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Bought all of then except the cheaper ones, that doesnt refresh lol

pseudo goblet
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Do I want the Ditto OgreThink

slim birch
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What’s the best Dragonite build in Mobile anyways. Haven’t kept up with decks at all yet

pseudo goblet
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Depends, by that I mean whatever @normal cave says lol

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Adam you have Weezing set or good water cards?

slim birch
#

Yeah

pseudo goblet
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I still yet to have a three stars UmaruCry

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Another Misty missed 🤦‍♂️

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Couldve at least give me Nidoran but Lord helix is fine… now I have two of it

fading stratus
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yes because you;re busy playing pocket

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and I dont play pocket

pseudo goblet
maiden flax
signal raptor
warm sky
pseudo goblet
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Wezl cheering you on Unite and Pocket

warm sky
fading stratus
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todescruel vroken

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you play specs gwheezing

normal cave
fading stratus
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zebstrika got that cool points tho

normal cave
#

I don't think Weezing Dnite has a good Pika matchup, but Zebstrika and Frosmoth builds legit autolose upon Pika reveal

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Articuno ex dnite is also an option that beats Pika, but it will make you hate yourself because Misty is an unfun card.

fading stratus
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do type matchups work on ptcg actually

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bruial

normal cave
#

Yes, but they're not SUPER relevant and extremely dumbed down

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Super effective moves hit for 20 more damage, and resistances do not exist

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All legendary birds are weak to electric. Including Zapdos. Idfk why.

fading stratus
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zapdos got zapped

normal cave
#

Most water types are weak to electric, and none have a grass weakness

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They giga pushed electric

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Pika's fighting weakness is relevant, since it puts Pika at exactly OHKO range from a primape.

fading stratus
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doesnt pika get ohkod by any grade 3 or whatever its called in ptcg

normal cave
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Yes, except Venu, but by the time you get to them, you've already lost.

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Primape can one-shot Pika before Pika comes online

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If it goes second

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Making it a coinflip matchup

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The big problem with stage 2 mons is that the game is extremely inconsistent, and that red card exists. If you can get out a stage 2 by turn 3 then sure, you can beat Pika. But good luck drawing all 3 cards on time with zero consistency tools outside of Oak, and good luck not getting red carded while you are forced to hold all your evolutions in hand.

slim birch
normal cave
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The goal of the Cuno variant is to have Cuno tank for you, and potentially run away with the game using misty. You need to invest little to no energy in Cuno thanks to Misty.

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Cuno sits up front until it gets knocked out or you misty highroll and it sweeps, then you just click draco meteor once or twice to win.

slim birch
#

Yeah figured. Weezing sounds awful managing 3 energies lol

normal cave
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Nah weezing is 2 engines

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Koffing+weezing+koga, and the usual dnite stuff. You do not run any darkness energy, since weezing only needs its ability for value

maiden flax
pseudo goblet
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Unless you run dark deck

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UGHHH I HATE WONDER PICK

normal cave
pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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it do be like that sometimes

slim birch
sonic inlet
normal cave
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Starmie is like the one deck that can compete with pikachu, not the other way around

last musk
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Honestly starmie is arguably more consistent

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Because of misty allowing you to get your attacks off first even if you go first

sonic inlet
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You aren't getting starmie on the field turn 1

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Also misty sucks

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You go -1 50% of the time

last musk
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I meant more like

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You play staryu and pass turn one

sonic inlet
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Starmie is still weak to electric

last musk
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They attach an energy to Pikachu, you attach an energy to staryu, evolve it, misty, and then attack

sonic inlet
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That's not as consistent as pikachu

last musk
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Suppose but you only need that if you go first

sonic inlet
#

It's just easier to get the sufficient energies

last musk
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If you go second you will get your attacks first

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And starmie can survive a Pikachu attack

sonic inlet
#

And you still need to open both staryu and starmie

last musk
#

That do be the issue but I don't think it's that much of an issue

normal cave
sonic inlet
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Pikachu is by far the best deck in the game for a reason

last musk
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I agree consistent was the wrong word for me to use here

sonic inlet
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Consistently is a huge factor

normal cave
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Pika and Starmie both need a combo. Pika needs one specific card and a bunch of filler. Starmie needs two specific cards, and potentially a third in misty.

#

Starmie beats pika by highrolling, not by consistency

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You open the nuts and get a fat misty, that is how you win

fading stratus
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maybe you can get 219 heads with misty too

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you never know

normal cave
#

Heads stop mattering after the 6th one

sonic inlet
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That's why guy who stole all my heads

normal cave
#

The problem is, I usually get 0 heads off misty

sonic inlet
#

I do hate how badly designed misty is tho honestly

normal cave
#

Ye horrible card

sonic inlet
#

No matter what when a misty is used someone is going to feel like shit

last musk
#

Would y'all feel better about misty if it just gave 1 water energy no flip?

sonic inlet
#

Yeah you get to attach 2 energies that turn

normal cave
#

The number of hoops you need to jump through for energy acceleration is insane

#

Garde is the second best energy accelerator in the game, and it is a stage 2 mon

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Brock sees 0 play because its targets are ass

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But if misty were just "have an energy no questions asked" then starmiecuno might actually become the best deck

vagrant steppe
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Ayy

warm sky
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Another scrapped thing found

Gen 7 was originally gonna have its own battle frontier

vagrant steppe
#

Actually robbed

fading stratus
kind vortex
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that would actually have been a clever way to include a bunch of regions in the same game

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rip

normal cave
#

This is what happens when you don't give devs enough time FeelsSadcatMan

hasty anchor
#

Well, guess I'm doing Atlas now

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Oh jeez, unexpected Minish Cap music

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I'm actually surprised at how nice this game looks. Last RPGmaker game was TGOM, which was very minimalistic, and this goes well beyond what that did

mighty storm
#

ok this fan game is so cool, Joltik variant 😮

viral ingot
#

Arbok Weezing seems to be pretty fun to play, and fairly cheap. :0

hasty anchor
#

I really like how Pidgey seems to be based on a Blue Jay

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It's a dark type, cause really, Blue Jays are very much jerks

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Ended up capturing one that looks like it's been in a very rough confrontation trying to get this mailman's package back

mighty storm
#

Ooh found a Shellos, right to the team she goes

hasty anchor
#

WOOPER

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Yeah that's a shoe-in

mighty storm
#

current team

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btw @hasty anchor which egg you picked/picking from the daycare man? Striped (growlith) or swirl (vulpix)?

hasty anchor
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I uh, haven't done that yet lol

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I just got started after all!

mighty storm
#

there is like a special ninetales and arcanine you can get from a detour near the daycare center, route directly after the forest

hasty anchor
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I've been on a bit of a trek looking at what route 1 and the forests have to offer, so I've been taking it a little slow

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Oooh

mighty storm
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not sure exactly how to use the scarf, but the ninetails spirit gave it to me so has to be an evo item

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and the arcanine's bell disappeared afterwords

hasty anchor
#

There's a lot of different-looking mons in this game too

#

Ended up finding very different-looking Phantump, Dewpider and of course, Pidge

mighty storm
#

Looked all over the forest, where did you find the gastly?

hasty anchor
#

It's just random I suppose! DexNav I noticed is just a checklist on what you can find, and I just sorta stumbled upon it

mighty storm
#

ah

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it was the forest, maybe I went in the forest at the wrong time of day or like low encounter rate

hasty anchor
#

I looked and it didn't have a day/night list, but I think you may have better luck at night.

sonic inlet
hasty anchor
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I keep forgetting that Yamper is suuuuper slow

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Which is funny, cause Boltund in contrast is incredibly quick

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Corgi just got them stubby legs

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Well I got an egg but i don't think I had a choice of what it'll be

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The whole "Regional formes in different routes" thing got me thinking: If I were to leave Gastly behind and a compatible mon in the same egg group, would that give a standard Gastly instead?

mighty storm
hasty anchor
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The daycare man outside the daycare!

mighty storm
#

did you answer stripe or swirl?

hasty anchor
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Nah, he just gave it to me

mighty storm
#

huh odd

hasty anchor
#

I imagine if I was clicking too fast I would have answered stripes anyways, so that's alright.

mighty storm
#

yeah probably was clicking too fast

hasty anchor
#

A few moves seem to have the wrong names, looks like. I nearly had a panic attack when Pancham used Double-Edge... but when I caught it, turns out it's just the Arm Thrust move

mighty storm
#

yeah, translation error I noticed as well

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Well just went through one heck of a story plot moment

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And onwards to the second gym

hasty anchor
#

Gastly's so great for battles and captures, I learned

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Learns Night Shade and Hypnosis, so I can be certain I'm not going to accidentally KO something

mighty storm
#

Just finished the gym and Dandan evolved ❤️

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taking a break for now though, but yeah if a guy on the beach wants you to get his glasses, go for it (Thats how I got shadee, the master of bite moves)

hasty anchor
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Alright, gonna experiment with the daycare.

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I'm gonna see if I can get a Johto Wooper out of this

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...Actually, I think that might not work, given that it's a Paldean Wooper. Pretty sure it has to be a standard one

mighty storm
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oh yeah did you do the first gym yet?

hasty anchor
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Ok that was not what I was expecting but I'll take it nonetheless

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Oh yeah, nah, not yet.

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I'm still doing a lot of looking around

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Currently doing a lot of walking with Budew and Chingling

normal cave
#

Hyena

hasty anchor
#

It actually does look way more like a Hyena that Poochyena usually does, now that I look at it

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So, I guess maybe the egg that has Growlithe or Vulpix might be someplace else Hmm!

mighty storm
hasty anchor
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Ahhh

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I do wish I knew more Spanish, so I can read these books...

vagrant steppe
#

The Mewtwo pack loves me

mighty storm
#

went back and found a gastly

normal cave
hasty anchor
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Gastly are cracked

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Apparently they have a Sp. Atk stat of 100!

mighty storm
#

Also found a ghost bulbasaur from doing a side quest

hasty anchor
#

Pretty silly how in Johto, you can just find them flying around in the Sprout Tower

mighty storm
#

yeah this is definitely going on the team

hasty anchor
#

Rn I'm just doing some powerwalking with Chingling.

mighty storm
#

as much as I wanted to keep Victoria the Shellos around, everyone on here is just as goated as her

hasty anchor
#

Eevee also seems very weird. I tried using a Leaf Stone, but it wouldn't take.

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I'm guessing Eevee is much, much different than usual, but how I'm unsure just yet

mighty storm
#

yeah the eevee seems special, saw their twitter said it will have new eeveelutions

mighty storm
#

@hasty anchor the dile

hasty anchor
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oh my goodness its perfect

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Oh wow, Minccino can hold Chesto berries

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Teddiursa just stole one using Covet.

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Could use that in tandem with Rest!

mighty storm
#

oh the old eeveelutions have new looks to

hasty anchor
#

Those are neat color schemes

mighty storm
#

yeah found a stone seller in 3rd gym (?) city so I can get my eevee evolved finally

hasty anchor
#

Keep me in suspense, I gotta find out later!

normal cave
#

Feels nice to get a lot of likes from the enemy team as the support fluff

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Spent my time being as annoying as possible by walking up to their group, rooting someone, and walking out

polar osprey
#

I got my 4th fucking full art rapidash

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the last 4 star rarities I got were rapidashs

#

can I get literally anything else from the zard pack?

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A single ex?

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please?

hasty anchor
#

Allllright, first gym done!

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Roselia cinched it for me

normal cave
#

Bro you are ready for trading

#

Shame blaine will be a shit deck by the time trading comes out

polar osprey
#

or if it's a good deck it will be bcs rapidash, magmar and ninetails got exes lol

hasty anchor
#

Oh, alright, so apparently there is a trader who will trade mons for their standard formes

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So if you want to like, have a standard Gastly, then you can trade in the Will-O-Wisp Gastly for it

#

Unfortunately doesn't seem you can do the same for other formes, such as Paldean Wooper

normal cave
#

Pidge

hasty anchor
#

This bird's just so rare nowadays. Last it's ever been in a mainline game of sorts prominently was XY

normal cave
#

Nice event dena, I am sure glad I got like 30 chanseys and meowths

viral ingot
#

After 3000 years, I finally have one.

normal cave
#

damn, nice

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all I got is monke

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8 monke

pseudo goblet
kind vortex
sonic inlet
polar osprey
#

it doesn't say anything about not having a rule box so probably

kind vortex
#

i wouldn't count on it if pokemon card text tends to specify ex forms or the like

#

but until then, it's academic more than anything, i'd think

polar osprey
#

they can always just errata the cards also

#

since it's an online game

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in this case to exclude the ex forms

mighty storm
golden lance
pseudo goblet
golden lance
#

Since exs and 1 prize versions always count as different cards

hasty anchor
#

Good gravy there's way too many Joltik in this cave

pseudo goblet
hasty anchor
#

Oh, this is neat. This Joltik has an ability that changes its forme to this if it's above half its HP

#

So, it's kinda like Wishiwashi.

#

Were these guys really in any danger from Mama Joltik?

#

Last I recall, Joltik feed on electricity, not blood.

pseudo goblet
#

They go back to baby tiks?

hasty anchor
#

I imagine for balance reasons, Galvantula doesn't get that benefit, but possibly some other ability

#

Actually, I think those little blue streaks are just like

#

Hundreds of Joltik, and it's like

#

Some freakish Joltik megazord-thing

normal cave
#

It's schooling but joltik ye

pseudo goblet
hasty anchor
#

I've always been told those kinds of spiders are incredibly venomous, but cannot ever bite someone because their legs are too big

pseudo goblet
#

One of the easiest spook factor, move clump of fur balls thing

hasty anchor
#

I dunno if that's true though

#

Oooh, fuzz

pseudo goblet
#

Idk if they re really furry or hairy lol

#

They look like clump of cotton dyed black

normal cave
#

Those daddy long legs

#

They're harmless

normal cave
#

They will eat mosquitoes and other household pests for you if you let them be.

hasty anchor
#

And yeah, I don't ever bother spiders anyways. The only reason I don't like them near me is because of other people seeing them and trying to squish them

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So I panic cause I got to find a way to get them out of the place before someone sees them

mighty storm
normal cave
#

Cellar spiders look creepy, but they are highly valuable housemates.

hasty anchor
#

Ahhh, egg

#

Yeah I got an egg

mighty storm
#

they will mention it's a Joltik egg, but you can probably guess it's not the same as any ordinary one

hasty anchor
#

...The stuff was in spanish though so I'm unsure of what it meant

#

Ahhh, Joltik!

pseudo goblet
#

A little jumping spider appear in my room recently, tried to get it out, it jumped high at the last second and I felt something on my hair lmao

normal cave
#

Jumping spiders are also harmless and very helpful

hasty anchor
#

Hah, this Chichou stole someone's glasses

normal cave
#

Also, they are extremely intelligent and can be raised as pets

hasty anchor
#

I'm just gonna give it a cookie instead of pounding it into the sand, cause come on, that's funny

normal cave
#

You can even teach them tricks

hasty anchor
#

And now I guess I'm complicit in the great Chinchou revolution now. Guess those glasses are his now.

mighty storm
#

team and box (Idk why the bulbasaur isnt evolving)

normal cave
#

Bich/Elot type

mighty storm
#

Literally wishiwashi

hasty anchor
#

And I guess now I gotta fight this fisherman. Come on, there's a pair of glasses ON YOUR HEAD. Have you noticed?

normal cave
#

Yes

mighty storm
hasty anchor
#

...I actually am enjoying this game's writing. It's leagues above some other games

mighty storm
#

also make sure you have a rolycoly caught to trade later, the town next to the beach has a pokeball maker who will trade you a neat fire type

hasty anchor
#

Ayyyy, Chinchou

#

Oh hey, this Chinchou's water/dark like the one in TGOM

#

Except it's a proper angler fish

normal cave
#

I have 2 full art weezing but only one koffing angery

hasty anchor
#

...Actually, wait, TGOm Chinchou is Electric/dark

normal cave
#

Also, first copy of giovanni

hasty anchor
#

I kinda wish this Chinchou came with a pair of Blackglasses

normal cave
#

Not that I have a deck that WANTS Giovanni

normal cave
#

One of my fave water lines

#

Chinchou is v good mon

pseudo goblet
normal cave
#

It is wearing the glasses

#

And it is a physical chinchou owo

mighty storm
#

Yup got him on my team to

normal cave
#

They're more solitary iirc?

hasty anchor
#

I do wonder what happens if you decide to deck this nerd in the face for his glasses though

pseudo goblet
normal cave
#

If you want a pet like that, gerbils, rats, and bunnies are options. Hamsters have notoriety as pets.

pseudo goblet
#

Nope lol

normal cave
#

Quiet and easy to keep, so you can keep them in your room

pseudo goblet
#

Cant stand the smell fishtank water makes myself, my father does love fish lol

normal cave
#

You want a pet that doesn't need a lot of space, so not bunny or rat

mighty storm
#

On my way to the third gym, Ace my Pidgeotto is gonna shred through the gym's ace

normal cave
#

Snakes/lizards? Maybe a bearded dragon won't take up much space. But finding a specialty vet for reptiles is a nightmare.

pseudo goblet
#

Oh right, my next best pet choice being Cacti KEKW

normal cave
#

Dude cacti are adorable

#

I love plants

pseudo goblet
#

I am not gonna say what happened to the 1st and 3rd ConcernedFroge

pseudo goblet
hasty anchor
#

They can photosynthisize

And then they chose violence instead

pseudo goblet
#

How come the pet selection mentioned are mostly James’s pokemon lol

pseudo goblet
hasty anchor
#

Why not, that sounds super cool

pseudo goblet
#

Deadly poison

normal cave
hasty anchor
#

Ahhhh, yeah

#

I knew they had some reason, but wasn't sure what it was

mighty storm
#

It be time

#

Dandan so got this 🙏

normal cave
#

Plants in general will need love and care, same as any other living being.

mighty storm
#

Spikes (x2) and stealth rock monkaGIGA

pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
#

Actually… my room are completely denied of sunlight… hmm

mighty storm
#

I like this gym, their mightyena used a roar strat 😮

hasty anchor
#

Roar?

#

I'm guessing they probably have the Prankster ability, if so

mighty storm
#

double layer of spikes and stealthrock on first mon, then a mightyena that spammed roar

hasty anchor
#

It would make sense considering how Poochyena here are jokesters who laugh a whole bunch

#

If you got one, you can set in a dark-type so Prankster is unable to be used

mighty storm
#

dont think it was prankster though, roar is negative prio even with it

hasty anchor
#

Ahhh

#

Well, show em what for before it can!

mighty storm
#

actual double edge, thought this would be the mislabeled attack. But yeah Ace took out their well ace

hasty anchor
#

Oh yeah, found Charcadet!

...I imagine it will definitely take some doing before I can rightfully crown it with its respective armor, though

mighty storm
#

finally a mining kit

hasty anchor
#

Diggy diggy hole

mighty storm
#

btw did you see the furret in the box?

#

Normal/poison type

hasty anchor
#

Furret? Oh man I gotta find that one

mighty storm
hasty anchor
#

...I dunno how to feel about this furret though, but interesting!

normal cave
mighty storm
#

ooh, the mining is gen 4 style

hasty anchor
#

Feels like the kind of Furret that would steal my lunch money and call me names

normal cave
#

I'm still struggling to understand what it is

#

A fish? A fungus?

#

How is its tail bending like that?

hasty anchor
#

...A Selkie?

#

Looks like some were-seal

normal cave
#

This is just a clusterfuck

pseudo goblet
mighty storm
#

oh nice game bugged after getting a rare fossil cheems

hasty anchor
mighty storm
#

and last time I saved was before I fought the gym leader, eh I'll do it tomorrow

#

at least now I know his team so it'll be easier

#

Ducky Fullart

#

@waxen moat

pseudo goblet
#

The heck is a Whap

#

Slap+Whip?

mighty storm
#

don remind me, what type is the poochyena you got?

hasty anchor
#

Oh it's uh, Dark/Ground

mighty storm
#

ty

hasty anchor
#

Apparently instead of picking on things it finds weaker than itself, it likes pulling pranks

#

So instead of a very mean Hyena, it's a very giggly Hyena

mighty storm
#

he switched to mightyena early this time so not the full spike set up, perfect (yeah I decided eh why not as well take him down tonight)

pseudo goblet
#

UGHHHHHHHH

#

3rd worse pick possible, at least Its not Doduo or Heatmor…

hasty anchor
#

oh my god the police station has Gumshoe's theme as the music

hasty anchor
#

Between the Munchlax thing outside, they knew what they were doing

#

I wonder if I can somehow initiate trade evolutions... I met Phantump and Karrablast, but I think you can't exactly do trading.

mighty storm
#

I kid you not, this guy is flirting

hasty anchor
#

Jeez, sock him already, that's creepy

mighty storm
#

(Its to the woman next to him)

#

and she's flirting back cheems , this is a pokemon center

hasty anchor
pseudo goblet
#

Shes into that ig

mighty storm
#

How that scene (poor choice of word) felt

#

Anyways now that I saved my game, time to go find some fossils

#

ah seems escape rope is whats bugged

hasty anchor
#

Aaaaaa found Rookidee

#

Oh my god, this guy is interrogating an Oddish

#

Yeah, he's definitely dumb

#

The dumbest thing is, he's right

mighty storm
#

None of the rock walls I know of had the fossils, I think it resets daily so I'll try again tomorrow

pseudo goblet
#

Japanese I double checked, its just ‘Questionable Grass’

#

Chinese was just ‘Walking Grass’, Im not joking

hasty anchor
#

It definitely is questionable grass

#

You would not want to eat those leaves!

cunning shard
pseudo goblet
#

I was FR gonna say ‘Imagine being named ‘Walking’ but then reminded of the Paradox mon 😅

normal cave
#

I whiffed both Primapes angery

hasty anchor
#

Side-eyes Christopher Walken

golden lance
viral ingot
#

Full Art Lapras so adorbs ❤️

hasty anchor
#

I'm still scratching my head at how I missed a Growlithe/Vulpix egg

#

Surely I talked to the same person in charge of it, so it should still be the same... yeah?

mighty storm
#

yeah weird

hasty anchor
#

And I did check the 'dex, turns out Growlithe isn't found anywhere else

mighty storm
#

you got the incubator right?

hasty anchor
#

Yep!

mighty storm
#

odd

hasty anchor
#

Maybe it's... on a specific day?

mighty storm
#

possibly, cuz I got mine yesterday

#

Did you at least go visit the shrine thing?

hasty anchor
#

Yep

#

I chose the bell!

mighty storm
#

so yeah maybe try going on a sunday

hasty anchor
#

Righto

#

-Oh yeah, I got a fishing rod now. Might as well go fishing

mighty storm
#

went through a lets play to see where the choice is made

hasty anchor
#

Yeah, that's the guy, but he just gave me an egg

#

No question involved

mighty storm
#

very odd

hasty anchor
#

...Aw man, did I have to take the detour first then go see him? Cause I may be a little upset if so, cause that means this is missable

mighty storm
#

If I can make a second file, I will investigate this mystery

hasty anchor
#

Righto

mighty storm
#

save 1 implies I can

#

alright save 2 has been made

hasty anchor
#

I'm not gonna lose too much sleep over it but it seems pretty bleh how it could be missable, if so.

#

And Poochyena apparently isn't in any short supply, whereas Growlithe and Vulpix might be one of a kind

mighty storm
#

yeah it be pretty lame if it was missable like that

#

Ok in NotMunchingOrange's playthrough he got the egg before the bell/scarf

hasty anchor
#

Really? Huh.

#

Well shoot, maybe it really is something like a specific day in-game

#

I'll see what I can find

mighty storm
hasty anchor
#

Oh, so apparently it's like

#

...I guess much later?

normal cave
#

Balance patch

mighty storm
#

I guess

hasty anchor
#

Well, good to know it's not a bug

#

I mean yeah I can get it

#

I'm alright with this. It's not like, Reborn-Levels of "balance" patching

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Allllright caught Lombre

mighty storm
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Just later on yeah, which makes me wonder if I got the patch done after I got it thus cheesing the system.

hasty anchor
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Well, enjoy your Vulpix!

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Man, I'm finding a lot of cool fish with the super rod

mighty storm
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ah thats why the bulba wont evolve

hasty anchor
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Ahh, so likely not implemented yet

mighty storm
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yup

warm sky
vocal torrent
inland gyro
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so some youtuber did a method of determining ranking of pokemon popularity and my god the eeveelutions dominated the top mons

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the way it was ranked was by % winrate of selecting a pokemon out of 2

void herald
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chandelure being in the top 10 is kinda wild

inland gyro
void herald
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really? i had no idea there was a chandelure fandom

inland gyro
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i know like a lot of fancy mons are like acquired taste so like their popularity isn't consistent but chandelure i've seen people very often like and i think in a official event it won gen 5's favourite

void herald
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i assumed it was disliked like how a lot of the other mons based on inanimate objects were

inland gyro
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it breaks the issue though of a lot of inanimate mons

last musk
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It being a ghost type gives it more leeway

inland gyro
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very often those mons don't look inspired, ugly and often a mess

inland gyro
last musk
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Both can be true

inland gyro
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like klinklang is a bunch of gears... and its literally just a random mess

last musk
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Pikachu isn't in the rankings

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neither is charizard

inland gyro
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yeah pikachu was 65th

void herald
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okay that's kinda wild

inland gyro
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charizard was 102nd

void herald
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which youtuber did this?

inland gyro
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thomas game docs

last musk
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Oh yeah depending on the youtuber there could be demographic bias

inland gyro
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was the lowest ranked pokemon is not surprising at all and i forgot its existence

inland gyro
last musk
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There is also the potential for botting

inland gyro
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but yeah essentially the method was doing 1v1 votes and counting winrate

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i should say like charizards win rate was 67.5% whilst umbreons was 79.5% so its like not a bad performance

last musk
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I'm surprised to not see much recency bias

inland gyro
last musk
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Typhlosion I'm guessing did score highly?

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That and meme status

inland gyro
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cyndaquil was 20th will say

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guess the worst performing pokemon lel

last musk
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Do you have a link to the list?

inland gyro
last musk
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Bruxish? Ledyba?

inland gyro
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bruxish gets shit on constantly

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i've never heard someone not roast that if it gets talked about