Pokemon

[sonic inlet]

Dnite

[polar osprey]

probably bcs they win against those when they lose their toss like twice in a row

[sonic inlet]

Oh yeah blaine doesn't use arcanine

[polar osprey]

calling it now

the mini pack is gonna be e4 focused and have lance and dnite ex

powercreeping normal dnite

[cunning shard]

Dnite is just pretenting to not be a ex it's stat line is pretty much a ex

[polar osprey]

no more non-ex decks

[normal cave]

Power creeping draco meteor

[cunning shard]

Gimme frying pan for - 50 dmg Melmetal

[sonic inlet]

[polar osprey]

it's gonna be the one with pull up

[normal cave]

[sonic inlet]

They really worship farfetch'd huh

[polar osprey]

for those unaware

pull up lets dnite attach any energy on your side to itself when it enters the field from the hand

it would solve all of the decks energy issues when placing walls

[normal cave]

Wait shit really?

What attack does it get?

[polar osprey]

sorry not pull up

bust in

yeah

it can get all the energy on the board then place itself in the active zone

so you don't even have to worry about retreat cost

[slim birch]

Welcome to old Pokemon

[polar osprey]

bust in dnite ex would completely break the deck

[normal cave]

Oh it deals 120

[golden lance]

My fair and balanced aggro strategy vs their brutish "midrange" "combo" "deck"

[sonic inlet]

THEY'RE ALL ON THE FUCKING DUCK

[golden lance]

This isnt constructed

[polar osprey]

they were saying duck is an universal staple

[golden lance]

ITS THE FUCKING STARTER DECK

[polar osprey]

and every deck should run it

[golden lance]

THEYRE ALL ON THE PRECON

IT ALL MAKES SENSE

[cunning shard]

Well Charizard ex isn't that great compared to the Charizard I got to play in ptcgo themedeck format

[polar osprey]

zard in current tcg is better than zard here

[cunning shard]

20 self dmg attach 2 fire energy from deck attack discards all energy and deals 50 for each

[polar osprey]

js

[normal cave]

Bust In Dnite seems kinda nuts, but 120 is kinda small compared to draco meteor

[golden lance]

Its all people that pulled like shit getting mad that people have constructed decks

[sonic inlet]

These people do not exist

[golden lance]

That's the issue for them

[polar osprey]

they say the same thing about giovanni btw

they are all desperately trying to get it

[sonic inlet]

Don't tell me they like that +10 damage

????

[normal cave]

Ye

They do

[golden lance]

Bro i wish we had trading so bad

I have 4 of the mf

[cunning shard]

Nobody likes it but some decks need it to hit treshholds

[golden lance]

They would move SO FAST

[polar osprey]

just so y'all know

[normal cave]

I have 5 ducks

[polar osprey]

how broken current ex zard is

when it hits the field

[golden lance]

Fetch is in the starter deck

So ehh

[polar osprey]

it adds 3 fire energy to your hand

[golden lance]

The meta is kang and gio

[polar osprey]

and attaches it to your mons

in any order

[cunning shard]

Does tcg habe welder again?

[polar osprey]

it has a 2 fire energy attack that deals 180+ damage

[pseudo goblet]

Kinda ran out of easy reach rewards to get, tip and what should do?

[golden lance]

Welder rotated out

[sonic inlet]

Fuck

[polar osprey]

and no that's not normal

[golden lance]

Do the solo battles

[sonic inlet]

You were right

[polar osprey]

zard is just insane

[normal cave]

Farming battles

[cunning shard]

Last time I played welder I fueled Melmetal and lucario tagteam

[golden lance]

Not the blitzle dude

:icant:

[polar osprey]

yeah so I'm playing the deck everyone hates

for like

no reason

the game is 2 days old and the dkayed fandom already picked a deck to hate

[pseudo goblet]

So do a Dr Strange on the Advanced levels, got it

[pseudo goblet]

As in the ones I haven’t win rewards from right

[cunning shard]

Don't worry people who watch delayed don't understand they just watch the same 10 persons every tournament and base their opinion arround that

[golden lance]

Need

[sonic inlet]

It's in the starter, ofc they're on the thing

[golden lance]

How is pocket affecting the md community

[polar osprey]

oh yeah I also forgot

[polar osprey]

Idk haven't went there since

[sonic inlet]

Looking at streams nobody is really jumping ship

Might be different for dkayed andies

[pseudo goblet]

I forgot who said it, but jfc Dark type are not kind, fitting

[cunning shard]

Probably not so much people play yugioh due Stockholm syndrome

[polar osprey]

they are all super hyped for shiny sarc

[cunning shard]

[polar osprey]

that's all they talk about

[sonic inlet]

First time facing weezing muk stall?

[polar osprey]

melo might be cheap thank God

[golden lance]

Shiny sarc?

Oh md

[polar osprey]

the yugi deck

ye

you asked

[golden lance]

I thought melo meant meloetta lmao

[sonic inlet]

They're gonna drop the deck once they find out that its win con is shifter

[golden lance]

Nah md andies love shifter

[polar osprey]

btw choccy did you see?

[golden lance]

It "punishes the cancer decks"

[polar osprey]

the md playrate chart is literally a tenpai decklist

card for card

[cunning shard]

Wheezing muk is probably he least bullshit deck out there since it doesn't rely on coin tosses and it's average attacks are low dmg until a muk actually happens

[pseudo goblet]

Nah, although thats in my beware-list now

More like They re kinda rare in packs for me, only 3 base forms and a Golbat

[golden lance]

Lets goooooo

[polar osprey]

if you take the top 30 most played cards and put them in a deck you have a well rounded tenpai deck

[slim bough]

I must admit, with the remake games, Gen 5 is going to be the one that I’m not looking forward to

[pseudo goblet]

I mean srsly, I got 2 set of dragons- and they been kind to me

[normal cave]

[sonic inlet]

Oh, yeah I don't have it either

[pseudo goblet]

The moment Dnite arrived, its 80% win

[golden lance]

I whiffed the FUCKING WONDER PICK AGAIN

[cunning shard]

Probably get some banger acrobat card with johto

[golden lance]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[polar osprey]

skill issue

I simply wish for the card I want

[golden lance]

I only pick the ones with 2+ cards i want too

[polar osprey]

and it comes to me

next time you wonder pick post the pic here

I'm gonna pick the right card

watch

[golden lance]

Bet

[slim bough]

Maybe it’s because I never really liked Team Plasma or N

[sonic inlet]

N is the goat smh

[polar osprey]

team plasma is nice bcs it's actual evil

but the whole thing is too complicated

[golden lance]

https://tenor.com/view/colress-team-plasma-magneton-pokemon-gif-12816961

[sonic inlet]

And realistic

[golden lance]

My beloved

[polar osprey]

I like when evil teams are simpler

they have yet to surpass team rocket just due to how grounded it is

[slim bough]

I think, for me, it’s because the idea of a debate as to whether or not they were right is kneecapped by revealing the lie so quickly

[pseudo goblet]

This team has been pretty solid so far, Tentacruel is pretty decent

[sonic inlet]

Considering the last 2 teams are literally hooligans and bullied children

They aren't going to surpass it lmao

[pseudo goblet]

Frosmoth dont get much action, really need another card of it

[polar osprey]

something along the lines of pokemon traffickers could work super well

[slim bough]

Honestly, team Plasma feels like the pokemon directors got ticked off at PETA and projected their frustrations

[polar osprey]

they also keep doing half baked evil gym leaders

[sonic inlet]

Gen 10 is supposed to be greece so the evil team will just be people in debt

[pseudo goblet]

@normal cave

[sonic inlet]

Ok but that's based

[slim bough]

Also, take a shot every time someone in Unova comments on how great it is to have different opinions but never saying what they are

[sonic inlet]

That's probably bc of the whole ideals vs truth theme

[pseudo goblet]

Should I focus on getting Charmander or Squirtle

[slim bough]

Maybe. Just reminds me of a trend in 2010’s storytelling where they did that idea similar to the grift of making activist groups as the villains where the leader doesn’t believe in the supposed cause and is using it for his ulterior motives

[pseudo goblet]

Apparently I need some cards from zard pack in order to play THE Venusaur deck anyway

[polar osprey]

tbf in team plasmas case half of them didn't believe in the cause

and were just using it as an excuse to steal mons

[slim bough]

Which reminds me of certain coverage of protests.

But here’s the thing; the other half do believe in it and it makes you wonder why this idea of a debate never gives their reasoning for believing it outside of N’s conditioning by Ghetsis.

[polar osprey]

Idk bro it's a pokemon game

rse is just dude wants more land and dude wants less land

[slim bough]

That’s kind of why talking about black and white annoys me.
Because, in one corner, we have people basically praising it for being supposedly deep and thought provoking.
But then, when held up to scrutiny, it’s “you’re overthinking it”

[polar osprey]

no one is calling it deep and thought provoking here

maybe someone is

not me

my whole point is that I think pokemon works with simpler premises

bcs when you start going into detail the whole thing falls apart

[normal cave]

Tentacool is kinda ass. You want a wall that

1. is easy to deploy
2. has a cheap retreat cost
3. doesn't require any investment or barely any investment in terms of energy
4. helps stall

[slim bough]

Honestly, yes. Scarlet and Violet, for all its faults, genuinely made Nemona one of my all time favourite rivals

[normal cave]

Your whole goal is to stack up dnite while your team tanks hits, and then press draco meteor once or twice and win

[golden lance]

Alternatively

CUNO EX GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[polar osprey]

ALL HAIL BIG STALL

[sonic inlet]

™️

[polar osprey]

koga is the best stall engine bcs it can put the opponent on a clock with 0 energy

[normal cave]

I do like the non-ex cuno as a 100 hp 1 retreat cost basic with misty potential @pseudo goblet , that's a nice touch

[polar osprey]

and koga himself is great at keeping it going

[sonic inlet]

I hate weezing

[slim bough]

Frankly, one of Pokémon’s writing flubs is that they keep the silent main character. Which, when you have games that are more dialogue and word heavy, isn’t going to work

[slim bough]

What’s the issue?

[normal cave]

Also this. Weezing is the best partner for Dnite.

[golden lance]

Does koga also get you the koffing back when you 🅱️ounce?

[sonic inlet]

It does

[golden lance]

Oh shit it does?

That's sick

[polar osprey]

I think misty might still be worth playing in koga btw

[sonic inlet]

Like needle said, it puts your opponent on a clock for free

[normal cave]

I'm on Frosmoth because I have 0 weezing

[slim bough]

Fair:

[normal cave]

Frosmoth is a stupid good stall mon, but weezing is better.

[sonic inlet]

Hmm what water mon

[polar osprey]

if we get the pull up dnite frosmoth becomes better

[sonic inlet]

Arti?

Oh frosmoth

[polar osprey]

bcs then you don't give a single fuck about energy cost anymore

[normal cave]

Bust In Dnite is Grass/Electric

[polar osprey]

as long as the mon lives dnite can just leech off of it

[normal cave]

We play Pika Dnite

No wait

2 grass 1 electric

[polar osprey]

I just hope they move away from making dark big stall soon

otherwise dark weakness will never matter

[normal cave]

What cheap grass tanks with cheap retreat costs do we have?

Eggies is almost perfect, but 3 retreat cost hurts

And Bust In Dnite doesn't solo the whole map like Draco Meteor. You need to trade blows. So saccing an eggies for Dnite is a bad idea.

[viral ingot]

RIP, I'm completely stuck on the Expert Solo Battle mode.

Venusaur keeps healing itself, along with Erika.

[polar osprey]

that's if we get ex dnite

[polar osprey]

but it just seems like the most obvious ex target

[viral ingot]

All my fire pokemon suck, I don't have Charizard at all.

[last musk]

Nice dragonite stall dumbass

[polar osprey]

I think dark is only gonna move on from stall when we get to johto tho

with ttar

[last musk]

Shame snom and moth are weak to electric

[slim birch]

I don’t have any good fires either lol

[normal cave]

They are weak to metal

[golden lance]

The children yearn for beat up sneanel

[last musk]

Oh

Then they're just too weak in general

[golden lance]

Its literally pika ex but single prize so its fair

[normal cave]

But moth is 90 hp and pika deals 90

[sonic inlet]

How tf

Literally ice bug

[normal cave]

Terrible mu for dnite moth

[last musk]

Me see water symbol

[normal cave]

Dnite Koga can probs win, but not dnite moth

[golden lance]

Yea ice in ptcg is usually weak to steel

[normal cave]

Once again malding I have 0 weezing

[polar osprey]

mill ttar could be nice

[normal cave]

I have 116 hourglasses, but I need to save for next set

[polar osprey]

but we would need cards that interact with the gy

[golden lance]

Mill in 20 kinda spoopy

[normal cave]

HOLY SHIT WE GET MILL?!

[polar osprey]

you don't deck out in this game

[normal cave]

I FUCKING LOVE MILL

[golden lance]

Need's yapping

[normal cave]

Wha

[golden lance]

Nothing confimed brui

[polar osprey]

yeah

[last musk]

If you deck out you just

Continue

[polar osprey]

yeah nothing confirmed

[last musk]

No more draws

[polar osprey]

that's why I said would

[normal cave]

...I hate this

[polar osprey]

if you deck out you just stop drawing

[golden lance]

I get why they did it

But its kinda cringe

[normal cave]

My poor heart just died

I'm a hardcore stall/mill andy, how could they do this to me

[last musk]

All decks run a minimum 4 speed up cards, which add up to 6 draws

[last musk]

Can still moth stall for dnite

[polar osprey]

even some of the normal ttar mills iirc

[normal cave]

I do

[polar osprey]

they really like making it mill

[golden lance]

And that's because we dont have any more

[polar osprey]

or doing bonus damage against exes

so when we get it it's probably gonna be either of those

I hope they go the mill angle and not oko every ex

[golden lance]

They're probably a deck that runs 12 draw spells if given the option

[normal cave]

Man, I really wanna open more packs...

[normal cave]

Pika Pika

[golden lance]

I was thinking of mewtwo

But sure

[last musk]

Nah Pikachu can't afford to run that much draw

[normal cave]

Or Mono Cuno ftk

[last musk]

You need your electric benches

Badly

[golden lance]

What is cuno drawing into?

[polar osprey]

mewtwo just needs to get online

[normal cave]

Misty

[golden lance]

The supporter that flips tails and dies?

[normal cave]

Yes

[polar osprey]

it would run a bunch of balls if it could

like 6-8

[golden lance]

I hope we get comp search

Or item finder

Then again

Red card victim

[polar osprey]

I just ask for great ball

I don't want much

excavate 3 add a mon or something

[normal cave]

https://youtu.be/yLWoFt7lgRA?si=AhFfFHQwEaeyF8Qu

[polar osprey]

would already help soooo much

[golden lance]

Flip 3 coins excavate 1 for each heads

[normal cave]

You wanna break pika piles even harder

[polar osprey]

this would help stuff with stages 1s and 2s more than pika

[golden lance]

Pika pile gets diminishing returns

Stage 2s benefit way more yea

[normal cave]

Pika piles are most likely to have the mon quantity needed

I guess Mewtwo also runs enough

[pseudo goblet]

Where get Misty and what she does? Also, where can I get Magneton, Saw it in action and I want it 👀

[golden lance]

Thing about great ball is that like

[polar osprey]

pika pack get her last

[golden lance]

You kinda have to be on a critical mass of mons

[polar osprey]

focus on articuno and then starmie

[normal cave]

You don't run Misty?

[normal cave]

He has non-ex cuno

[golden lance]

Pika will usually whiff great ball since its only on like

2 pika 2 zapdos

[normal cave]

And he's building dnite

[polar osprey]

4 pika kid

but yes it only runs 6-7 mons

[normal cave]

He's trying to play frosmoth dnite with 1 moth

[golden lance]

You're not running the gnaw version

Surely not

[pseudo goblet]

I dont have her

[polar osprey]

mewtwo by comparison runs 9

half of your deck is mons

great ball is always hitting something

[pseudo goblet]

Still saving some Hourglass, in case Im bored

[normal cave]

Honestly, pull for Weezing/Koga. Weezing Dnite is better than water Dnite.

[polar osprey]

don't save hourglass until you get a functional deck

[pseudo goblet]

Also Im not pro enough to beat Advanced levels just yet to buy more hourglass

[normal cave]

Water Dnite has an issue where its main wall has 90 hp, and pika deals 90

[polar osprey]

they are not gonna powercreep current

with a mini pack

[golden lance]

Need

You think they'll do set rotation?

[normal cave]

Frosmoth is a strong card, but it loses to the best deck in the game.

[polar osprey]

you can beat those with any type pile playing all the staples

[pseudo goblet]

Aight~, gambling the rest of my earnings it is, 69 of them

[golden lance]

Farfetch beatdown?

[polar osprey]

no it's a collection game

[normal cave]

Also, misty and frosmoth are all coinflip reliant, so it hurts.

[polar osprey]

people won't want to pull for rotated out sets

[golden lance]

Bro if you rotate you make the old shit more valuable

[normal cave]

Pull mewtwo for weezing or cuno ex

[golden lance]

Think about it

[polar osprey]

they will probably implement a banlist system

that's only for ranked

and nothing else

[golden lance]

DAY 1 RED CARD

I ONLY ASK FOR ONE THING DENA

PLS

[normal cave]

Banlist: farfetch'd to 1

[polar osprey]

DENA, KILL RED CARD AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[normal cave]

Yeah fuck red card

[polar osprey]

good thing most lists are on 1

[normal cave]

Why

[golden lance]

The only thing card does is punish ppl from strategizing

[polar osprey]

bcs they need to fit the leek beatdown giovanni engine

[pseudo goblet]

Dena really loves making the globe go towards Gambling addiction

Between Masters and now Pocket

[golden lance]

It also sucks because there's 0 decision making involved with card

Negative if you consider the ppl carding on 3

Wait right dena is the masters dev

Shiiiiiiiiiit

[polar osprey]

red card feels the worst when you get hit by it turn 1 bcs you only had 1 mon to play

[golden lance]

This thing is gonna be so p2w

[polar osprey]

?

masters was hella f2p for the first like

3 years

[viral ingot]

Alright, this game kinda sucks for f2p. Even in Duel Links, I would eventually get the good card, but here, it takes much longer to get those pity points for it.

[polar osprey]

you could pity every other month

[golden lance]

Yea how's it now?

[polar osprey]

it got bad literally only this anniversary

bcs they are moving on from masters

into this

so they are doing the final milk

[pseudo goblet]

You need fortune to collect every unit

[polar osprey]

they added a new type of unit

[pseudo goblet]

Multi

[polar osprey]

that needs 30% more pulls to reach pity

and has the same rate as the rarest unit at 1%

yes the lowest a feature unit has gone in masters ever, even now, was 1%

that's insane for japanese gacha standards

[pseudo goblet]

Got 2 of the three of these btw, somehow

[polar osprey]

not the chance for a 5 star btw

the chance for the unit itself

in these banners the chance for a 5 star is fucking 12%

[pseudo goblet]

Yup

[golden lance]

Do the odds stack?

[pseudo goblet]

Wdym

[polar osprey]

for comparison

in genshin

a chance for a 5 star

any

not the featured one

is fucking

0.6%

the one you want is even less

[golden lance]

SHOUT OURS TO THE GOAT

CROSS DUEL

0.3 FOR AN UR

15 URS

[polar osprey]

no pity but it doesn't matter since you are getting a 5 star every multi most of the time

since again

12% chance

[pseudo goblet]

Also its fucking near-useless to get copies of unit you already get, as always

[polar osprey]

but there's spark

which you get enough to reach every other month

[golden lance]

NO PITY AND NO SPARK BECAUSE FUCK YOU

[polar osprey]

with leftovers

[golden lance]

AND YOU NEED 3 DUPES TO MAKE IT RANKED VIABLE

[polar osprey]

last year you could reach spark every month during celebrations like anni

last years anni you could reach pity twice almost

in 1 month

this year they soaked up the gems

[pseudo goblet]

HAH, thats a good joke, in practice you might not even get an useless 5 stars for 3 multi pull 💀

[polar osprey]

but again it's bcs the game has entered its death spiral

bcs dena is moving theirs resources onto pocket

[golden lance]

So yea like

Who's to say they wont do the same with pocket?

[pseudo goblet]

Btw, how much for Pocket’s subscription 🙂

[golden lance]

The spark here is already ass

[golden lance]

10 usd

[polar osprey]

do what

make it bad when they move onto a new project in 5 years?

[pseudo goblet]

Mmmmmm… about 30-40 rm…

[polar osprey]

that's fine

[pseudo goblet]

Bit pricy but tempting

[golden lance]

My goat would never

You got used to being treated badly need

[polar osprey]

speaking of gachas

[pseudo goblet]

How many of us has the subscription

[polar osprey]

granblue got one of its best fiscal years

11 years into its lifespan

went up by 200%

shit is never dying

[pseudo goblet]

They couldve bundle the subscription with Switch Online, At least Im not the one paying for my switch wifi

[polar osprey]

this game is not even on switch

would be playing it 24/7 otherwise

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/it-prints-money-switch-nintendo-money-iwata-gif-10140242

[golden lance]

But yea the game having a built in expiration date kinda sucks

Tbh, wont really miss it when it dies tho

[pseudo goblet]

Like Pokemon Duel?

[golden lance]

What happened to duel was a tragedy

[polar osprey]

it doesn't have a built in expiration date

masters stopped making as much money

and they had this project already

so they are moving on

what you should be afraid of

is not them going to a different game in 5 years

is them giving the game for another company to manage

they have done that twice before

you know with what games?

you are gonna shit yourself now

feh and mario kart tour

[golden lance]

Meh

Tour unironically got better after the handover

So

[polar osprey]

have you seen the state of heros for years now?

[golden lance]

I'm still relatively sane

So no

[pseudo goblet]

Says the Kamen Rider fan- among other weird stuff this guy watched

[polar osprey]

but really I wouldn't worry about p2w in pvp here

dena kinda hates gacha pvp games

[normal cave]

Hunted a whale and then this happened

[pseudo goblet]

Oh yeah thats true AF

[polar osprey]

while feh was under its thumb there was A LOT more solo content

they are not gonna make the pvp p2w

[pseudo goblet]

THERE IS NO PVP IN MASTERS

[polar osprey]

they will just milk people for alts and shit

[golden lance]

Oh shit dena made godus

Thats funny

[polar osprey]

that's why they are advertising this game as a collectors first and foremost

[pseudo goblet]

honestly thats for the best, I am not dealing with rich bitches for little rewards

[polar osprey]

and didn't even release it with a ladder

[pseudo goblet]

Or try hards

[polar osprey]

with the pass

you get 90 multis from that alone

add the weekly hourglass store and that should be enough for an ex pity every month

without taking into account events or anything else

add the fact that we are only gonna get a new main box every 3 months

and you can probably hard pity 4 exes

[pseudo goblet]

Still trying to get Halloween Roxanne and Phoebe 💀

[polar osprey]

before the next box rolls over

[golden lance]

Then again tho

Are you really playing this game for its pvp?

When live is right there?

[polar osprey]

no that's what I mean

so they won't milk people for that

even taking into account new player rewards

the game has been out for not even 48 hours

and people already have multiple optimized decks

[golden lance]

The appeal of a collecting game kinda goes away when getting a full collection becomes impossible, to me at least

[pseudo goblet]

Going offline, rest from work too long, ping me if anything interesting is being talked about

[pseudo goblet]

Sameeeeee~

[polar osprey]

they want people to slowly build their collections

so much so the game has a hard cap on the amount of gold you can buy per day

so not even whales can rush everything in a day

[pseudo goblet]

Then again, I fricking collecting Skylander and BeyBlades 💀💀

Collecting things is in the family dna kinda, on top of being a common behaviour

Funny how Shuffle being more possible to get full collection, kinda

Not being gacha but game being hard AF

[normal cave]

Dratini finisher

Dnite hits were soooo ass this game, but it worked out anyways

Anyways, made it to level 15, and now I have enough timers for a 10-pull. Wake me up when new set drops.

[pseudo goblet]

Their Battery died out Ig

[normal cave]

Nah I won

[pseudo goblet]

How

[normal cave]

It was my turn to attack, and tini deals 40. Their highest hp mon had 30 left

[polar osprey]

you still need to do your daily pulls kid

[pseudo goblet]

Oh right energy is there, Im dumb

[normal cave]

I could give tini an electric energy and win

[polar osprey]

I also I faced some crazy dudes on level 40 with like 150 wins today

[normal cave]

Ach, ja...

[pseudo goblet]

Yeahhhh Im dumb

[normal cave]

Highest I faced were mid 20s holy

[polar osprey]

I have some whale friends on level 38 and 34

[normal cave]

40 and 150 wins in a day is crazy

Actual bot stats

[pseudo goblet]

What in the fuck

[normal cave]

Probs a bot

[polar osprey]

they were probably whaling on the side also

[normal cave]

What did they play?

[polar osprey]

the whales are all in the 30s

pika

[normal cave]

Yeah figures

Best deck for getting fast wins

Could be a bot

The game has an auto battle button, so setting up a bot is super easy.

[polar osprey]

the auto battle works online???

[pseudo goblet]

Heh, Dena trend, Auto Battles

They re not even good AI, Master’s I mean, they do bad decisions, still uses them for boring daily task

[normal cave]

Sec lemme test

[normal cave]

No

[pseudo goblet]

Dang, was gonna gamble but next pack is in 2 hours, I would be really dumb to spend my hourglass now

Also saw Bruial’s Mewtwo, that looks amazing

What card should I spend Pack Points on

I have 165 atm

[normal cave]

Wait for new set. Then, go over your collection and see what you have that can make a good deck.

Pika beat, articuno/starmie ex, mewtwo, charizard/moltres, all of these are options.

Blanie and dragonite stall also work

Eggs beat works ig

Honestly, it all depends on how your collection looks

[pseudo goblet]

What Beat means

[normal cave]

Beatdown

Aggro basically

[polar osprey]

it's impossible to argue about the gameplay with the community in the dkayed server

[normal cave]

You smack them with cheap mons that do big damage

[normal cave]

That's how people with no brain are

[polar osprey]

I had to explain for like 30 minutes why red card was good late game

against the amazing argument of

"you might unbrick them"

[normal cave]

...

[polar osprey]

and why meowth was good in mewtwo

they just have no concept of card advantage

so in their head red card is just a mulligan for the opponent

[normal cave]

Why a card draw engine is good in a combo deck...?

[polar osprey]

yep

and also why giovanni was bad in mewtwo

[normal cave]

Meowth isn't good in every deck tbf. But...

[polar osprey]

their argument was it lets you ko most basics with psychich sphere

[normal cave]

Gio has one niche in Mewtwo, and that is to 1-shot Dnite.

[polar osprey]

their entire gameplan is literally to just fish for early kos with everything

[normal cave]

Dnite can be a threat to mewtwo, but if you run gio, you win that MU every time. At the cost of being worse into all other matchups.

[polar osprey]

I'm starting to think the reason pika is above the other decks is less because it's that much better and more because that's the only playstyle the great majority of the community knows how to pilot

[normal cave]

Pika do be easy af to pilot

...tbh, is any pocket deck all that hard to pilot?

[polar osprey]

the hardest thing is probably pure koga

with corner arbok

but yeah this is more so people not understanding the basics of card games

which is weird since most of them have mutuals with me in 2+ ygo servers

[normal cave]

Would someone with good critical thinking be a big dkayed fan?

[fading stratus]

needle

[normal cave]

Honestly, playing the game for long =/ being good

[polar osprey]

I'm not a good dkayed fan

[normal cave]

Well, true, but I didn't think needle was a fan

[polar osprey]

in fact I found a pocket site that's leagues better than his

[normal cave]

He criticizes dkayed

[polar osprey]

and EXPLAINS HOW TO USE RED CARD

https://www.pokemon-zone.com/

actually insane how much better than the dkayed site this is

[fading stratus]

he;s not a fan he just "has to" watch every dkayed vid and tournaments

[polar osprey]

and only watch the ones with leaks

https://www.pokemon-zone.com/articles/red-card-tcg-pocket/

the fact that this even exists is insane

[pseudo goblet]

Isdgi

[polar osprey]

get mons on the field quickly to beat the opponent down before they get their strategy going

[pseudo goblet]

So its not a rarity but strategy

[normal cave]

Yo, this site fucks

[normal cave]

Ye

[pseudo goblet]

https://x.com/suzukinoko1021/status/1851942729519108194?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw

すずお (@suzukinoko1021) on X

相棒ポケ仮装のスター団🌟

Twitter · Oct 31, 2024, 11:02 AM

Need these as their Sygna Suit

Penny and Giacomo already in Masters, just need other 3

[hasty anchor]

Figured I'd give Cobblemon a try-out, given I've been on a Minecraft kick recently

[polar osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PTCGP/comments/1ggog85/why_is_going_2nd_so_much_stronger/

another one for the "I literally play basic beatdown and nothing else" evidence room

[hasty anchor]

In the usual TCG, I don't think it matters too much on turn order, since both player's first turn has a good few restrictions

Is it different there?

[last musk]

Going first you can't attach energy so most decks can't act unless you're a water deck with misty

[hasty anchor]

Oooh, that's why

[last musk]

Going second you get the additional draw and can attach energy

[hasty anchor]

Cause in the usual TCG, you can in fact attach energy on the first turn

[polar osprey]

you also draw going first

you can't attach energy going first here bcs the energy system is different

you get 1 energy every turn starting from the second turn

the deck going first still gets to evolve a turn earlier

it's only make or break in basic beatdown which has no energy generation unlike the rest of the meta and doesn't play evos to take advantage of going first

[pseudo goblet]

[normal cave]

The best deck in the game is a basic beatdown deck

[polar osprey]

yeah so people playing that are really feeling the coin flip in the mirror

[normal cave]

Going first or second both have advantages for a deck like dnite

[polar osprey]

this is gonna become less and less of an issue as getting to evos becomes more consistent

[normal cave]

Attach first or evolve first, both help a lot

[polar osprey]

so getting that a turn early is gonna be a huge advantage more consistently

[normal cave]

Also, going second and getting red carded t1 is not fun

I love the comment that said that getting to attack with your basics first is more important than evolving

Hmmm yes today I am going to attack with my snom

-10

[polar osprey]

mewtwo even prefers to go first unless you open exactly meow

[pseudo goblet]

How often do people use Venusaur

[normal cave]

Yeah it's not clear cut

[normal cave]

Hmm, not too often, but I still see it from time to time. V good deck.

[polar osprey]

but since people are only looking at the game through the lens of beatdown it looks that way

best advice they could get there is just "play another deck"

[normal cave]

But needle

Mewtwo stinky

[polar osprey]

venu ex is fine

[normal cave]

Can't run farfetch'd in it

[polar osprey]

he is very tanky and erika is a super potion

you can play it with exegg for early game pressure

[normal cave]

Venu EX is a late game beast

I see it a lot with weezing too

Like Dnite but 1 energy type

[polar osprey]

exegg is 1 energy so it doesn't even disrupt anything

[normal cave]

Ye eggs is good

You are giving up 2 points, but who tf is killing venusaur

[pseudo goblet]

Okay good, the investment getting it was worth as I wanted

[normal cave]

Yeah, venu will serve you well

It's kind of like dragonite, so you might be comfortable with the playstyle

[pseudo goblet]

Again tho, Still need a few Zard pack cards for THE deck itself

[hasty anchor]

Snom being in the very first set is just great

As it should be

[normal cave]

Frosmoth is an absolute menace

[pseudo goblet]

Need second pf this as well lmao

[normal cave]

It doesn't hit all that hard. What it does do is break your opponent's spirit.

[hasty anchor]

Ah yeah, cause it does make things fall asleep with Powder Snow

[normal cave]

Ye

It's a frustrating card to deal with

[pseudo goblet]

Frosmoth + Venusaur

[normal cave]

Shame pikachu one-shots it, makes the matchup horrible for moth.

[normal cave]

Could work, but you'll need water energy.

Venu does like tools that stall for it like eggs or weezing

I feel like moth is mid this meta tho because pika invalidates it

[hasty anchor]

Like it remains pretty still in comparison, but that's not a big loss

[pseudo goblet]

It is different from Pixelmon and I like it for it, Pixelmon model just feels, off

Then again last time I played Pixelmon is like 4 years ago soon

[hasty anchor]

Yeah, they looks, very much not like something in Minecraft.

I'm not faulting them for it, but the smooth models just seem very unfitting

Also there are regular Minecraft mobs in this what

Why is there Sheep next to Mareep

[pseudo goblet]

I mean, smart move if you ask me

Which one yall more used to killing for lamb meat, MC Sheep or Mareep

[hasty anchor]

Admittedly that is a kinda wise choice, but I guess I'm so used to battling stuff for resources.

[pseudo goblet]

Btw I still havent play Cobblemon lol

[hasty anchor]

Well, nothing to do now but rough it out in the wilderness and see if I can get resources together with Torchic

[pseudo goblet]

Endgame: Get a Shiny Torchic 🙂

Arguably less stressful than catching everything Pokemon lol

Does mobs spawn on powder snow??

You could just burn the wool for torch, dug a hole underground and wait for 10 mins

I always do that first 10 minute of the game

[hasty anchor]

So now I'm having to sit in some cave until the sun rises.

At least Torchic might keep me warm from the cold.

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/squirtle-pokemon-ash-hug-gif-10787602

Try bonding with Torchic like Ash did

[hasty anchor]

I gotta say this is the biggest cherry grove I've ever seen, and it's in modded MC

ohhh god there is hostile mobs in this mod

Just heard a Skeleton creaking

[pseudo goblet]

Okay~ did not expect this kind of tool kit for Kabutops

Can I place in Kabuto as is or do I need Dome Fossil

[hasty anchor]

Seems you do need the Dome Fossil

[pseudo goblet]

Damn

Which trainer card to remove

[hasty anchor]

Honestly I'd say Pokedex is fine

You don't really have to be that pressed to know what's on the top of your deck in most cases

[pseudo goblet]

Imo it works with water dnite team

Idk, I like to know if the next cards are the dragons or squids

Jellyfish, tomato tomahto

[hasty anchor]

So far I like the look of Cobblemon but it seems... kinda empty so far

I imagine it's still very much in development and will add more things to allow the world to come alive, but it seems barren so far. Still looking forward to what may come

[pseudo goblet]

I do remember the hisuian starters get special accessories to indicate which form they take

[random stream]

@polar osprey they fixed toise

[normal cave]

Man I hate wonder pick being so expensive

Really cool mechanic, but holy shit the price

[sonic inlet]

I really just fought a guy called RegiHawk Tuah

[normal cave]

[sonic inlet]

Good thing I won bc I probably couldn't have recovered from that loss

[normal cave]

I think the new meowth cosmetics are the new meta for farming showcase likes

It's only been 5 minutes since I bought one and already I got 2 likes

2 more

Wish it showed me what they liked

[pseudo goblet]

https://youtu.be/rx3rG8ruxTA?si=z2xFPbr5GZ8WUii2

Well, better start watching how people does it before doing one of my own

and I thought Galar fossil was HARD already, now plus no-shiny charm

[cunning shard]

still sounds less bad than waiting for a judge on DB

[sonic inlet]

https://twitter.com/SoulSurVGC/status/1852054528809669003

Jeudy ➡️ Baltimore🐦‍⬛ (@SoulSurVGC) on X

This card is god when my opponent uses it but dogwater when I use it

Twitter · Oct 31, 2024, 6:26 PM

[normal cave]

I wish misty was just an attach 1

Card would be nuts still

[sterile verge]

Oh this art is insane

[cunning shard]

if misty guaranteed attach 1 water everyone probably would play water starmie ex would sweep crazy

[normal cave]

Didn't get a single electric energy. But that's ok because moth is busted.

Had to retreat my dnite btw, that's why it only has 1 energy

[golden lance]

OH YEAH

[normal cave]

Water Aggro time

[golden lance]

It was via wonder pick, for once

[normal cave]

Oshit

Nutty wonder pick

[golden lance]

Had to highroll eventually

[normal cave]

Congrats

Now you get to play an even better misty deck

[cunning shard]

thing is nuts

no retreat cost on top

[normal cave]

Bonk for 90 no downside

On a 130 body

[cunning shard]

it even survives a giovanni pickachu

[spice rivet]

Feesh

Just 2 left pog

[golden lance]

Wait

I dont have staryu

[polar osprey]

hello friend

give me your code

[golden lance]

6499617172651891

[pseudo goblet]

Guess I better try get that from you as well

Pretty sure I do have Staryu

What cards has my wonder pick been showing to you guys???

[signal raptor]

I'm missing exactly 1 mewtwo ex this sucks

[normal cave]

I keep getting friend reqs from japan owo

Is nice, I have a big friend list now

[hasty anchor]

[signal raptor]

going first really sucks in this game huh

[golden lance]

Holy

[hasty anchor]

Ayyyy its Poliwhirl

[pseudo goblet]

pfft, Symph sees the friend shape mon first, fitting

[cunning shard]

Going first u wanna have them stage 1 x1 energy attackers going 2nd

Or misty gamba and it doesn't matter wether you go first or 2nd because for some reason u can actually attack turn one with misty

Prime example are the eggys or weezing decks

[signal raptor]

hard to misty gamba when you aren't playing a misty deck

but just feels like not being able to attach energy t1 is such a weakness

[cunning shard]

Weezing has good starters to go first or 2nd

[normal cave]

[normal cave]

I play stall and it's fine first or second. First I get to secure my dratinis faster and not get red carded t1, second I get to attack a little faster.

Speaking of stall, I might try chansey. I don't have snorlax 😦

[cunning shard]

Can always play khan

Because that actually gets to attack 2-3 times on average before it knocked out

Stupid Coinflip mon that sometimes just gives u the donk

[normal cave]

Nvm I only got 1 chansey

[normal cave]

Khan can work, but it dies to pika+giovanni

Then again, it probably eats 2 hits and dies like chansey or lax

Aight, khan it is

Uhh... I don't have khan

...golurk?

Nah, I can't use that

0 value wall

[cunning shard]

I'd made sure to play 1x energy attackers when I try to stall knockouts

Gives at least a bit of poke

[polar osprey]

only for aggro decks

[cunning shard]

Weez and Kang like are the only good ones I can think of that can even do some work on themself

[polar osprey]

decks that want to evolve to combo like mewtwo actually prefer to go first

[cunning shard]

Yeah pika hates going

[polar osprey]

articuno can straight up win the game if you go first

turn 1

[cunning shard]

Moltres too

[polar osprey]

it's mostly a pika issue

going first is also gonna get better the more evo searches we get

so getting to evolve first is gonna be an advantage more consistently

[cunning shard]

Venasair is okay because of eggy wall

[polar osprey]

the EGG wall

[cunning shard]

If I'd could attach turn one I'd probably just play liligant

[normal cave]

For now I play frosmoth. It's not great, but it does sometimes stall for 8 turns off sleep, and misty can turn it online for free.

[pseudo goblet]

Im just completing solos while waiting for my pack

[normal cave]

I think I figured out where all the friend requests are coming from

I like to spend time spamming likes on everyone's community showcases

[pseudo goblet]

WonderPick

[normal cave]

Nah I haven't pulled in a bit

Anyways, it's nice to get friend reqs, but I'll have to stop if this keeps up because the friend list isn't infinite

[hasty anchor]

Well I went to try Pixelmon to see the difference.

NPC's were bugged, and I can't do anything.

welp

[pseudo goblet]

Thats why i only have 3 friends atm lol

[hasty anchor]

So I guess that's about as far as I can take modded MC and mons

[normal cave]

I got 24

I have no idea who most of them are

[pseudo goblet]

You do have a way to make friends, I mean look at where you are

[normal cave]

Wym?

[pseudo goblet]

Discord lol

[polar osprey]

@random stream people didn't buy enough darkrais so now millions must suffer

[normal cave]

Ah

[polar osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fh89wrmper8yd1.jpeg

[pseudo goblet]

Fuck it, Im going Masters, 27 min is forever

[last musk]

Cobblemon proving it is superior

[normal cave]

Wait, the cooldown for chansey pulls is 30 mins?

[pseudo goblet]

Nah, my packs

[normal cave]

Ah

[pseudo goblet]

Also Meowth was 2 min before reset just now

[normal cave]

I need another chansey for muh stall

[pseudo goblet]

Also You are correct anyway

[normal cave]

It is?

[normal cave]

Lesgoooo

Btw, zane, make sure to get the meowth cosmetics and put them on your public showcases

[pseudo goblet]

shit, dud

[normal cave]

For some reason those farm likes

[normal cave]

[pseudo goblet]

thats the third miss

[normal cave]

What did you get?

[pseudo goblet]

the blue ticket

[normal cave]

Tickets are good

Helps you get the meowth cosmetics

[inland gyro]

damn saw those cards with art of like the pokemon in daily life scenarios at home and shits cute af

[pseudo goblet]

ye

[normal cave]

Remember, likes = shop tickets, so the meowth stuff gets you cards

Now, the wonder timers are a scam

[normal cave]

[polar osprey]

wonder tickets you get from likes and battles are capped at 5 a day btw

found that out yesterday

and the caps overlap

[normal cave]

No fucking way dude

That's horrible

[pseudo goblet]

mmmmmm, Medicham pull-ropes

[normal cave]

I love this. Lil' bro has energy to burn. Go lil' dude!

[polar osprey]

counting the daily missions tickets

you should get exactly 180 shop tickets every month

so you have to choose between wonder hourglass and the regular one

[pseudo goblet]

yes, do it before grew old and bones hurt nonstop 🙂

[inland gyro]

prob my favourite like the idea of a lileep having its own tank

[normal cave]

Wonder hourglasses are such a scam anyways

Man, that SUCKS

[pseudo goblet]

so, I spent some tickets on wonder is waste

[normal cave]

I thought we'd get more. Nope.

[inland gyro]

also pokemon tcg old pack openers are wild

go hype for a chase card that was still a 33% loss

[normal cave]

Yeah, wonder tickets are a waste. They give you 1/5th the number of cards.

Man, I can't wait for fucking TRADE TIMERS

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/typhlosion-pokemon-sleep-pokemon-typh-pocket-monsters-gif-9681923315037263300

[normal cave]

If trading is limited to timers we need to buy I might just quit

[normal cave]

[pseudo goblet]

14 min... cmon~~

[normal cave]

I was at 34 likes earlier today

[polar osprey]

trade is definitely gonna be locked behind the mysterious ticket the devs gave us

[polar osprey]

if I had to guess we are gonna get like 1 per week or something of it and then gold pass players are gonna get 2

[normal cave]

Fuck man

No fucking way, 1 trade per week

The market is going to be 100% scams, since small gains become unviable

[polar osprey]

maybe 1 per day and then gold pass gets 2 or something

[normal cave]

1 trade per day is still so ass...

[pseudo goblet]

Still better than HOME Gts maybe

[polar osprey]

also there's a chance

you can only trade cards you have 3 ofs

and not 2 ofs

[normal cave]

I miss ptcgo's market

[normal cave]

Stooooop

I'm gonna cry thinking about that

[polar osprey]

if they make so you can only trade cards you have 3 ofs trade would just be for whales to trade exes

[pseudo goblet]

I should mention that Dena LOVES making features that later become useless as days goes

[normal cave]

Yeah, wonder pick became unusable after one day

[polar osprey]

wonder pick has been amazing for me

[normal cave]

Those timers run out waaaay too quick

[polar osprey]

got 2 exes and 2 dnites

but it's gonna be unusable soon

[pseudo goblet]

Whats the fucking point of money currency if theres nothing valuable to buy…

[normal cave]

I got good pulls off wonder pick. The issue is I can't pull anymore.

[polar osprey]

after you run out of wonder hourglasses

it takes 80 hours to get all 5 points back

which is absurd

even if they cut it by half it would still be absurd

[pseudo goblet]

THEY DO HAVE VALUABLE ITEMS, MAKE THEM BUYABLE WITH COINS FFS!

[normal cave]

I got my full art dnite off wonder pick

[normal cave]

Ye, which is why I say wonder pick hourglasses are a scam

[polar osprey]

every gacha has useless currency you end up with millions of off after playing for a while

[normal cave]

Yeah

But wonder hourglasses are not going to be that

[polar osprey]

no

[normal cave]

Because if you have a ton, you can easily burn through them

[polar osprey]

also

I wouldn't worry about trading

if they make so you can only trade cards you have 3 of they are gonna get massive backlash

and are gonna have to change that in a week

also pocket already got 10 million downloads

and the devs haven't said anything about it

every gacha I have ever played gave rewards for A LOT less especially in a 3 days time

[normal cave]

If they only allow 3-of trades, then I'm starting a dubwool cartel with choccy

[normal cave]

Class act

[polar osprey]

if they only allow 3 of trades I won't be able to trade my fucking mewtwo exes even tho I have 6

[normal cave]

Sounds like nintendo found a great company to partner with

[polar osprey]

alt arts make not allowing to trade 2 ofs really stupid

again I have 6 fucking mewtwo exes

but no specific art at 3 copies

[normal cave]

Wait I thought you pulled 9

[polar osprey]

I don't need 6 mewtwo exes

I said I was gonna throw a fit

If I pulled 9

[normal cave]

Ahhhh

[polar osprey]

I thought I had 7 but it was only 6

[normal cave]

But consider: flair

You could have golden mewtwo with flair

Flair is such a scam mechanic too

[polar osprey]

you need 5 for that and for gold cards it's 25000 dust for flair

no I didn't type that wrong

25000

not 2500

25000

[normal cave]

In a game with trading, you want us to dismantle cards for sparkles?

[normal cave]

I have no hopes for this game anymore

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/sparkle-mandjtv-fairy-gif-5635903118142544286

[polar osprey]

sparkling is just for whales

needs 5 copies of the card and is absurdly costly for anything 1 star and beyond

the good thing is

[normal cave]

A gacha can live only off whales ig

[polar osprey]

whales are probably gonna be trading down

for sparkles

[normal cave]

Hmm

Damn I am getting crazy deja vu

Something tells me

You won't be able to ask for cards you don't own in a trade

Not offer, ask for

I have a hunch

[polar osprey]

they advertised trading too much they can't fuck it up

[normal cave]

That trading will be completely useless outside of whales farming flair

[polar osprey]

I'm not worried

[pseudo goblet]

heh, Not being able to get back cards you traded, thats so bad

[polar osprey]

they 100% won't let you trade down to 0

dw

[normal cave]

Fuck

[polar osprey]

also

whenever a new set comes out

or any decks gets nerfs

that's probably gonna be the best deck for trading

knowing mobile game communities people are gonna be gunning for whatever the newest toy is

and do absurdly dumb down trades to get it

[normal cave]

True

[pseudo goblet]

Finally, gambling time

[polar osprey]

you will probably be able to get 1-2 star cards with 2-4 silver ones from the newest set

off of people desperate to build the newest toy

in md people dust their entire collections to get the newest toy

[normal cave]

But the big fun of trades in ptcgo was turning one bulk common into infinite currency without scamming anyone

[polar osprey]

this won't be any different

you won't be scamming them

they will be scamming themselves

[pseudo goblet]

Another EX Venusaur lol

[polar osprey]

out of desperation for the newest toy

100% on them

[pseudo goblet]

Oooooh Cloyster in the back

[polar osprey]

so the best move for trading is probably gonna be saving hourglass for the newest set

dumping it all

and getting massive trades in the first 3 days

with people desperate to complete their decks

[normal cave]

Good point

So I save my hourglasses for when trading comes out

[polar osprey]

especially whales

[normal cave]

I'm at 123 hourglasses rn

[polar osprey]

since this game has a daily purchase limit

[normal cave]

[polar osprey]

and they are gonna have a surplus of old exes

are gonna trade like a 3 star they have 4 of for a 4 diamond or 1 star or something

from the newest set they didn't get on day 1

[pseudo goblet]

Oooh Zubat, Finally I can use Golbat

[polar osprey]

you are gonna be able to milk the whales like dena

[pseudo goblet]

Vaporeon

[normal cave]

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Arbok

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Blue venusaur

Arbok is actually usable

[pseudo goblet]

Finally Dark deck seems usable

FULL ART DRAGONITE

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LET'S GOOOOOOO

[pseudo goblet]

NOW I HAVE THREE OF THEM WTF LMAO

[normal cave]

Wait really? 3 full art dnite?

[pseudo goblet]

just 1 full art lol

[normal cave]

Ah. 3 dnite total.

Same

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That's a beautiful pack

3/5 of those cards are good

[pseudo goblet]

and~ the last pack is boring lol

buying some hourglass

Only Sandshrew as new card

ooooooh Meowth pick is back

dud

[cunning shard]

Tho I don't think battling is too interesting right now really like more decks like weezing arround

Bring the detention gas weezing

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I still need weezings

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That's actually just smoke stacks

Pokemon smoke stacks

[pseudo goblet]

spending some wonder hourglass, somebody got EX Starmie

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Good luck!

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I'd actually love that card so much in this game

[pseudo goblet]

dud

this is a scam lol

[polar osprey]

got the event meowth pog

but I already have full art meowth