Similar with Incineroar and Body Press
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pseudo goblet
bleak pine
Yep
bleak pine
Those stat bonuses stack up very quick, given Meganium is actually using 4 moves at the same time during the course of battle.
pseudo goblet
The problem is the timer
bleak pine
And yeah, the timer is an option
You want to play it safe, given each KO penalizes your time limit, but you can't dawdle either.
Fortunately, you're pretty much guaranteed to have something act before Meganium, so speed isn't an issue with your picks
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how do critical hits work against tera raid pokemon again?
bleak pine
I think it's just the usual 1.5x damage multiplier
Also it probably still ignores any defense bonuses like normal
bleak pine
You could also likely open with Brick break, to deal with the screens
Or use Cinderace and have it use Court Change
...I got no idea if that would even work though
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idt that works
bleak pine
Would be a sick way to begin a battle if it did
pseudo goblet
I’m just gonna put hold on the raid, also this https://vxtwitter.com/voidroonil/status/1776166308196835420?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
Do tell me if I need to censored this
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kind vortex
eevee of jagged edges judges you
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this is just eevee but from lavender tower
pseudo goblet
Oh god 
Kinda been thinking what Pokémon I should prioritize getting a shiny of
Maybe Applin(s?) but the method Summer taught me basically can do any time
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get shiny legendaries
pseudo goblet
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pseudo goblet
Next
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shiny tauros
pseudo goblet
Nah, all of the form
mighty storm
Munchlax
pseudo goblet
Even todays Outbreak I don’t think have much interest with? Notable ones being Tadbud, Scyther, Sandaconda baby, HootHoot, Oddish, Horsea
spice rivet
how do critical hits work against tera raid pokemon again?
Just the standard 1.5x and bypassing defensive buffs
Also I did Tera the Tera Ghost Skeldirge strat and it was nice and easy
PP up Torch Song just once, then just follow Austin Jons vid
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
PP up Torch Song just once, then just follow Austin Jons vid
Oh nice, guess I’m going with it too
Unaware right?
pseudo goblet
you don't ever play blaze in crocodile
Kinda awkward cause the traded gator I got is Blaze lmao
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just use ability patch
pseudo goblet
just use ability patch
‘Too precious to use’ mindset, it’s annoying : P
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pseudo goblet
Might as well breed new one anyway, just for OT
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yeah you can
pseudo goblet
I can breed the traded skeledirge I mentioned for modest nature and the gift Fuecoco for Unaware ability
Good thing I have a salty sandwich quest going on
sharp kernel
Got a 3 hour flight then a 6 hour wait before I get into my Airbnb, should I do a Violet nuzlocke @fading stratus
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just a regular hardcore locke?
or are you playing something like a typelocke or sth
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oh yeah btw @pseudo goblet a fun fact about stellar tera
say you use water type weather ball(in rain) and fire type weather ball(in sun) both will get stellar boosts because they're 2 different types of moves
sharp kernel
or are you playing something like a typelocke or sth
Probably regular hardcore Locke, would just close my eyes and move the joystick randomly for encounters
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that works
or just use a random number generator
then catch the mon which you see in that number
sharp kernel
That’s smart, I did not think of that
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or you can even spin a wheel by listing all encounters of that route
pseudo goblet
say you use water type weather ball(in rain) and fire type weather ball(in sun) ...
Like I get it, but still lol
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that's how it should work yes
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rillaboom
or amoongus
no ogerpon actually
okay my rankings would be
- Ogerpon
- Rillaboom
- Amoongus
- Venusaur
- Whimsicott
pseudo goblet
ig I should wonder about PZA starters
So far the starters I’ve used over the years is in a rotation
Rowlet, Scorbunny, Oshawott and Sprigatito, rn it rotated back to grass, wonder what I’d choose next
pseudo goblet
I choose base on the final evo
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choose water
pseudo goblet
ig I should wonder about PZA starters
So far the starters I’ve used over the ye...
Bolt is it weird that fate allowed me to avoid using the actual best starter of each game here
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samurott is probably best starter of PLA
pseudo goblet
Was it
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yes
pseudo goblet
Probably my team during PLA did good, H-Samurott felt kinda lacking for me somehow and sadly
Also I already forgot what my team was in PLA lmao
spice rivet
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
So, remember I talk about sandwich earlier, kinda hard finding the recipe I need, found this and it’s quite helpful
I wouldn’t have known all I needed was Basil and Salt lol
normal cave
Not even enough to make pesto...
Mfs out here eating plain basil on their bread and calling it a sandwich
bleak pine
Legit started sandwich making cause of this game
Only issue is finding good bread, and still having enough room to toast it all
normal cave
issue finding good bread
The vest bread is homemade
Fresh-from-the-oven bread is infinitely better than the storebought stuff
bleak pine
Very much!
Just gotta learn how to do it
I know how to mix up dough, so it's probably just like
Baking pizza, but instead of flattening it out you just mash it into the shape you want
normal cave
Not quite
You don't wanna be just mashing it. You gotta knead it and let it rest too
Need to develop gluten and let it puff up a bit
Bread has some pretty detailed recipes.
bleak pine
Ahhhh
obsidian juniper
Twitter
bleak pine
pseudo goblet
https://twitter.com/Elle_Loves_Hugs/status/1776663758976242007
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO DIARBITTMON!!! 
mighty storm
diarbbitmon gambler mode
pseudo goblet
diarbbitmon gambler mode
aaaaaaaaaa don’t do weird things with coolest rabbit(?) digimon https://youtu.be/zbhxfH8yEI0?si=epF2ZCc08_kNdR9q
bleak pine
oh my goodness he has so much fluff
pseudo goblet
Ruri(the girl) agree 
Guy is actually pretty skinny, so yes those are all top quality fluff
tacit sphinx
okay my rankings would be
1) Ogerpon
2) Rillaboom
3) Amoongus
4) Venusaur
5...
Where’s Meganium
:c
pseudo goblet
Where’s Meganium
Busy traumatize raid players
@mighty storm I found another shiny Female pyroar, that makes three of those in my box
right after I finish breeding some pokemon I need
mighty storm
<@268199601817780234> I found another shiny Female pyroar, that makes three of t...
When mega pyroar happens, you'll be the shiny pyroar dealer at this rate 
pseudo goblet
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Where’s Meganium
as a consolation meganium is one of the best grass type in radical red
not really in mainline games tho
it'd probably be good if it gets a good ability and fairy type
i honestly think thick fat would be a insane ability for meganium
pseudo goblet
Seeing Bolt is here, and shiny happened, Hey Bolt I had a dream this morning, you and me on a road trip, I noticed two shiny Bellibolt on the road, you and me tried catching them lol
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like zane if you dream about me what do you dream? a penguin holding a sword?
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understandable
honestly you do sound like someone i'd go on a trip with and catch shiny bellibolts with
pseudo goblet
I just found out I was hatching eggs with my false swipe Ceruledge instead of Flame Body 
pseudo goblet
understandable
honestly you do sound like someone i'd go on a trip with and cat...
If its anything, you caught it first try, and I failed mine, idk, dream just shove a big ass 'FAILURE' on mine and its gone for some reason
pseudo goblet
flash fire you mean
Nah, False Swipe, for the Pyroar shiny
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ah
pseudo goblet
.... Shit, I forgot both my Duraludon had Stalwart... When I was trying to get Stamina Archaludon baby
pseudo goblet
got the parents from raid
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are the parents holding.............eviolite
pseudo goblet
I dont think so???
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oh wait no
pseudo goblet
Majority of the baby will get the mothers ability
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are you making babies with ditto
pseudo goblet
Duraludon no, starters I needed baby stage of, yes
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ground fire is an insane offensive typing btw
mighty storm
what was that mewtwo at the end?!
pseudo goblet
Ooooh Tepig, second chance
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what was that mewtwo at the end?!
furry bait
talking about groudon type
i was thinking about it yesterday and isn't groudon ice a insane offensive typing
pseudo goblet
God dammit Tepig stay in the Luxury Ball
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i wish emboar was good
pseudo goblet
Im doing you a favor
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its my fav fire fighting starter
pseudo goblet
Wooo, almost gave up on this pig
pseudo goblet
What did you expect lol
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the funniest part was they said it was the game of the year
pseudo goblet
Okay, looks like i had more duraludon egg in box, please Stamina
I wanna be walmart Drayton
Stalwart again
tacit sphinx
My brain is decomposing and I want to show you why
I want y’all to recognise what I do for you here
spoocy captain
if i wasn’t 100% sure this was stolen/ai art i would say that gengar with a cigar goes hard
pseudo goblet
Gah, Light Metal
tacit sphinx
Anyway my youtube recommendations are now completely fucked probably
pseudo goblet
3 more duraludon left
tacit sphinx
Oh they’re fine thank god
pseudo goblet
@fading stratus Hold up, last Duraludon got Heavy metal, Pretty sure thats the one that changes to Stamina when Evo
Wait no???? Light Metal was the ability I needed??? I feel dumb
vagrant steppe
Man I didn't expect the actually gameplay
tacit sphinx
i was thinking about it yesterday and isn't groudon ice a insane offensive typin...
Piloswine stocks stay winning
pseudo goblet
@fading stratus So, figure Im gonna do hp ev training, thought I go it with three new pokemon at once, Skeledirge gonna be Hp and Sp atk, does the singles build for Brute and Archaludon here looks good 
https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-Scarlet-Violet/archives/402049
https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-Scarlet-Violet/archives/437279
pseudo goblet
General really, again
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just play like spore and 3 moves
pseudo goblet
So the ev spread looks good?
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ev spread is whatever for regular play
you can play like 252 speed 252 atk adamant and it'd be fine
pseudo goblet
Ill admit, im kinda interest with comp, as in online lately lol
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if you ever get interested in doubles specifically hmu
pseudo goblet
Bet Ill be garbo at it but ill try
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not for singles tho because well i haven't played singles
pseudo goblet
if you ever get interested in doubles specifically hmu
That would be the plan lol
watch me one day ask 'Hey Bolt is endeavor quick attack focus item (insert mon) good in double'
lol
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talking about doubles I have a peak doubles game I watched yesterday
here zane watch it if you ever have a time
its timestampped
pseudo goblet
Jesus 11 hours
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its euic
that shit is 3 days
today is finals
its 15 rounds of swiss into top 8
pseudo goblet
The heck Icy wind Flutter
pseudo goblet
really, hmm
Btw I figure I might as well plan having multiple Bonnet, I already have 3 different kind of Meowscarada
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really, hmm
basically speed booster flutter plays icy wind protect moonblast and either dazzling gleam or shadow ball but only difference is its playing icy wind taunt protect and 1 offensive move
which isnt bad because ghost type damage isnt really that great rn
people are dropping shadow ball in gholdengo
pseudo goblet
Off topic, I think mobile being weird again, products news legit jumpscared screen me just now 
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usual discord fuck up
pseudo goblet
but amoongus is better than support bonnet
What’s the better ev spread for sus shroom
hp and one of the def stat?
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i think people are playing slightly offensive amoongus rn
but hp and def/spdef evs should be fine for the most part
like here's a amoongus spread which should be fine
Amoonguss @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 244 HP / 188 Def / 76 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 12 Spe
- Spore
- Pollen Puff
- Rage Powder
- Protect
tacit sphinx
@fading stratus one day we should do gsc ou together 🙂
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mayhaps
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ah
I haven't really played singles in a long time
So I should get into gen 9 singles before that
bleak pine
There is indeed, a lot of thinking
tacit sphinx
I haven't really played singles in a long time
So I should get into gen 9 singl...
noooooooooooo
tacit sphinx
hm
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@pseudo goblet didja watch the game
tacit sphinx
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well rip
normal cave
Throw a ball
Small chance to win the run
Unless you can't use raikou in which case rip
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julie will run
pseudo goblet
<@430667447692034059> didja watch the game
Later lol
pseudo goblet
@mighty storm I think I just despawn a shiny Bergmite 💀
I hope not, it was on Montenevera’s bridge, the candle light made it like very yellow, that IS the shiny color but don’t look the same
pseudo goblet
I swear to Arceus- why almost every sandwich recipe tells you need Salty Herba… apparently I have a psychic Oriocorio Outbreak going, and get one=get 4 shiny, also bird does give sp atk ev I needed
I do have a Meowstic Outbreak going too- but apparently kittys best stat isn’t Sp atk, they give Spd ev
maiden flax
In doubles ngas blocking protosynthesis and quark drive was considered a nerf
In singles it was considered a buff
pseudo goblet
I swear to Arceus- why almost every sandwich recipe tells you need Salty Herba… ...
Found the shiny
It’s a boy lol
normal cave
A buff to neutralizing gas I think
I guess it fucks over your own proto/quark drive in doubles?
pseudo goblet
Alright I screwed up on some steps for the Meganium, but even the failed attempt almost got me there, I just need to remember Tera
pseudo goblet
Got the Dino
maiden flax
how is it a buff btw
In singles it means it kills the booster buff letting to do stuff like survive a headlong rush from tusk to burn it :v
(Though you don't normally do that, a better example is more so roaring moon where it gweez just cripples it cause eq deals less than 50% after leftovers letting it freely just wisp it)
(assuming they have tera up cause they might try to tera on gweez if you try to strange steam it)
I'm just realizing both examples stem from roaring moon
But with 2 different weezings
pseudo goblet
This was beautiful
Gators bullying Dino
Just for herba mystica
2nd Herba farm result 
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But with 2 different weezings
oh y'all use galarian in singles
maiden flax
Yeah the added fairy type is huge in singles
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its huge weakness in doubles
because you really only use sludge bomb/gunk shot as offensive move
so its just a liability
maiden flax
Immunities I imagine are bigger in singles than doubles cause it's probably easier to dodge an immunity that doesn't redirect in doubles right?
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kinda ig
but dragon immunity is kinda whatever
even dragon types barely play dragon type move
except raging bolt ig but bolt wasn't even present back then
best dragon type was dnite and it played like no dragon moves
but steel type weakness is huge
especially then we also had heatran
this was the usage back then
maiden flax
One thing remains the same though
Both are niche usages right?
fading stratus
yep
it was a archetype everyone knew they needed to prep for but not really many people played it
its kinda like the japanese dozo ting lu team
like its good but why play it over balance
@pseudo goblet
didja watch it
maiden flax
Oh right compare this to OU which is dragon hell currently
(Mmmm look at those dragons)
There used to be 8 dragons here! Now there's 7!
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that was before dlc btw (when wheezing was good)
rn its this
still only 1 dragon
maiden flax
Your top 12 consists of 1 dragon
OU consists of 3
So big diff yeah
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yeah
pseudo goblet
didja watch it
Cleaning some stuff
I am free for the most part, Masters daily and weekly pretty much done, probably some little things to do for Scarlet, crap I still have shows to catch… okay you know yeah I better watch it now
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I just wanted to show that game to show why incin is actually good
pseudo goblet
I just wanted to show that game to show why incin is actually good
Both Team almost have the same pokemons
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its what balance mirror look like
like if you watch from the start there are a lot of different teams
like if you watch round 15 feature the matchup is tinglu dozo vs balance iirc
this game is just "why dragonite is good"
pseudo goblet
Question, are the players able to know what the opposite team was like, moves and items, or do they just doesn’t hear the commentary or get pic
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you get a sheet with opponent's mons, their moves, items, tera types and abilities
but not evs
pseudo goblet
Ahhh, I was wondering what the right guy was writing on
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yeah you can take notes
but you have to take note on a blank sheet to prevent cheating and stuff
pseudo goblet
Oh, Tera immediatel- both Team fake out on the opposite Raging Bolt lol
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tera immediately is important because what if your opponent dragon pulses you
because raging bolts cant really touch each other after tera
pseudo goblet
Yea thats clever
Can I just say, they both mirror each other on multiple situation is creepy lol
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that's because the mirroring is probably the most optimal play in that situation
pseudo goblet
Jesus how much longer before pon comes out, that’s gonna be the only difference between both team lmao
pseudo goblet
and so does urshifu
Got to there
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but pon shines in g2
pseudo goblet
Thing didn’t do shit
pseudo goblet
I just wanted to show that game to show why incin is actually good
You win, okay you did already, but still
I’m putting Incineroar into the same training group with Bonnet lol
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
that's because the mirroring is probably the most optimal play in that situation
Also imma skip the second round, same starting point again
Really wanna try Incineroar and Palafin together
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incin is good
really good infact
and palafin is good but like why play palafin over y'know waterpon or urshifu
pseudo goblet
been about 2 weeks since I touch Pokemon Go and Unite, idk, feels more relaxing
no need to stress over clicking every pokemon on screen, no need to stress about objective and get some small things
Not saying Im dropping them entirely, I mean, I mustve like drop GO at least 5 times by now and still comes back
warm sky
Twitter
bleak pine
Yee-haw
outer eagle
maybe GF will buff Sand Tomb to 95% accuracy next gen after that match 
outer eagle
Masters finals finishes just in time for ER Bingo 
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er bingo?
pseudo goblet
Masters finals finishes just in time for ER Bingo <:EZ:873056992019759124>
EX or???
outer eagle
Elden Ring
outer eagle
my entertainment is set for the next 6 hours
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my entertainment is watch euic read manga sleep
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sleep biggest entertainment
ryu i made zane watch a balance mirror
it was incin rillaboom balance too so whole match was pivot turbo
outer eagle
hey at least it's not a stall mirror
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the whole game was fake out then uturn then fake out
pseudo goblet
I just finished this weeks Boonboomger and Gotchard, let me go easy lmao
pseudo goblet
the whole game was fake out then uturn then fake out
and parting shot, yes
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https://www.youtube.com/live/XSYf8J205h8?si=ADqVryglZTnUpmTf if you wanna watch it
finals is starting so you might as well tbh
this will be a good game
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yes
pseudo goblet
why not lol
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catch a shiny tauros
pseudo goblet
Oooooooooh Paldea spider Pokémon outbreak
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just say tarountula
pseudo goblet
Oh come on, footage of the match I watched
pseudo goblet
just say tarountula
I wasn’t sure about the spelling lol
outer eagle
last time a team didn't respect amogus it won worlds
outer eagle
download boost coming in clutch for once
outer eagle
huh porygon2's atk isn't terrible til
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yeah its decent
pseudo goblet
Fuck, another mirror
~~
short heath
Why does the master have to be literally right next to ultra ball
Why does switch input latency have to be so bad
pseudo goblet
I MISCLICKED MASTER BALL ON A FUCKING FLUTTER MANE
Just reset?
short heath
Thats a good idea
pseudo goblet
Why does the master have to be literally right next to ultra ball
Also yeah that’s fucked up lmao
But like, could’ve been worse, slot Master next between Beast ball and POKEBALL
short heath
pseudo goblet
Funny how FirePon’s mask is the one that actually look like a Japanese Ogre’s face
The other one is just a tiki mask or whatever
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damn tim getting read
dude's really afraid to make predictions
like there were so many obvious plays
like the swap was obvious
oh wow this is so bad
spice rivet
He is tilted at the towers
pseudo goblet
So, should be easy whose the winner now huh
outer eagle
sometimes not making predictions is the prediction
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this is honestly a experience difference tbh
outer eagle
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because this is tim's first season
spice rivet
Ya, he's def going to grow after this which is good sometimes
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yeah
pseudo goblet
because this is tim's first season
Guess it’s good enough he’s second
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I remember when chuppa cross was a new name last year
and now that dude is one of the best NA players
pseudo goblet
Guess it’s good enough he’s second
That feeling must be hurtful, but still
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this game is unwinnable now
short heath
Huh
Well I was looking for flutter mane after I reset
But found a shiny gargancl instead
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hey that's not bad
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that was such a dominant game
outer eagle
porygon2 best porygon form across all formats
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like the dude had no chance from turn 1
pseudo goblet
I guess, get the crown ready and shine
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next tournament is orlando next weekend
but it'll be late night for us zane
the NA regionals stream start at like 12am for me which would be like 2am for you
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its saturday sunday yeah
saturday is 8 or 9 rounds
then sunday is rest of 14 or 15 rounds + top 8
this was international championship so we had finals in day 3
pseudo goblet
Oh START at 2 am, okay nvm lmao
pseudo goblet
we can watch the finals in the morning
I would be busy training/working at work lmao
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oh yeah btw fun fact
current EUIC NAIC and OCIC champion are all europeans
fun fact to you too btw @outer eagle
EU actually best non Japan region
spice rivet
Ya, watching that, he got hit by the nerves hard
But again, learning moments for him
2nd place is nothing to sneeze at
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i think they played into a lot of obvious plays probably because they were nervous yeah
like the matchup was in their favour too
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/911536162370388010/1211208202251796480/Sc...
idk man i'd rather not see memes as bad as this
vagrant steppe
They're funny
Also, I'd take a couple bad memes over the sub being boring "Rate my Team" all day
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that meme was just "haha fluttermane is designed by a 8 y/o haha" which isn't even funny
tho i don't use reddit so idk what other memes are like
vagrant steppe
The "this'll surely bring better discussion" talking point was stupid as hell
vagrant steppe
Stunkpost was the only good set of competitive pokemon memes
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there are a lot of good plushies zane
i saw a big spheal one yesterday
in stream ofc
vagrant steppe
/r/pokemonmemes is genuinely terrible
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are pokemon memes as bad as yugioh memes
vagrant steppe
Like take a wild guess at the top post of pokemon memes today?
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vagrant steppe
This is the top post of the day
pseudo goblet
outer eagle
5/8 tiger
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that's so bad
vagrant steppe
It's funny that even the worst stunkposts were leagues better than this shit
But they banned stunkpost because "it's dragging the community down'
pseudo goblet
15k cash hot damn
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yeah 15k cash for internats first place
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5/8 tiger <:KEKW:622347587516628993>
looking at this
most teams are just balance
and balance likes incin
vagrant steppe
Wait internats is going on today? Yeah this would have been the perfect day for new dumb memes
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it ended
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senior's divison was funny tho
ting lu missed 4 sand tomb
vagrant steppe
Sounds about right
outer eagle
shifu and inci both getting 5/8
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upper hand
vagrant steppe
Ahh
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its just a niche pick which is actually good into meta rn
guard dog drain punch vores incin
and upper hand
and gunk shot ohkos flutter at +1
vagrant steppe
He's been talked about as an option in singles a lot and never saw play, so I was curious if it was just better for doubles
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its probably better in doubles than in singles atleast
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i think my fav team of the tour was still the japanese ting lu team
the masters one
not seniors one
vagrant steppe
Surprised to see no Gambits tbh
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gambit kinda dropped
been a while since its been good
vagrant steppe
Ahh fair
I think I remember you mentioned that when I was making the double Incin shitpost
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I just said gambit plays 2 dark move swords dance protect
i didnt say its dropped idt
this was last time gambit was in top 12
back in jan
so early format
outer eagle
that wasn't too long ago
void herald
pseudo goblet
Everstone
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that wasn't too long ago
well it was early format so meta was wild
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~~Everstone~~
same thing
short heath
Still, what was /r/stunfisk thinking
I do get not wanting your genuine competitive discussion to be drowned out by jokes
Most posts on the sub were people either posting their grossly overpowered theorymons or memes
vagrant steppe
I do get not wanting your genuine competitive discussion to be drowned out by jo...
The issue is there's not much actual discussion going on
outer eagle
https://fxtwitter.com/cinder_arts/status/1776860468897780117?s=46&t=ZIfF073n731c...
would have been funny for them to remake that trade except instead of holding Everstone it's just Adamant 0 IV Sp.Atk and Spd
vagrant steppe
It's a lot of "Rate my team" and "What did I do wrong in this one replay"
short heath
"Hey guys what do you think of this Heatran se-"
"EIGHT FUCKING GROUND TYPES GRAAAAAAHHH"
short heath
It's a lot of "Rate my team" and "What did I do wrong in this one replay"
That's at least competitive discussion
vagrant steppe
It's not meaningful discussion tho
short heath
It's certainly a controversial change that I may not personally agree with
But I see the viewpoint
vagrant steppe
"Rate my Team" doesn't help a lot for most people
outer eagle
Like the internet has taught people since time memorial, you cannot prevent memes
short heath
Be about competitive pokemon
vagrant steppe
I mean, the memes were about competitive pokemon
short heath
The memes themselves were also getting pretty bad tbh
vagrant steppe
Sure there was stuff like "Zekrom Kick" but that did start from a genuine discussion thread
short heath
It was getting close to becoming lowest common denominator
outer eagle
you say that but since when has r/stunfisk been officially competitive tbw 
vagrant steppe
I posted the top 2 memes of /r/pokemonmemes today
I don't think they were even CLOSE to that bad
short heath
Not saying they're as bad as casual pokemon memes
But like
Not as good as when they initially boomed
vagrant steppe
Yeah, you're obviously gonna have people who's memes aren't as good
I dunno, this is just a pointless change
short heath
Well they at least have a subreddit made dedicated to competitive memes
Which if people were joining the sub specifically for those
And lets be honest
That number is pretty big
They have that sub to go to
fading stratus
feel like there should be a bit of discussion topic rn on which restricted is better surely
vagrant steppe
This is what the front page of the sub is looking like rn
outer eagle
fracturing your base across multiple platforms is a quick way to die tbw
vagrant steppe
Most of this isn't that meaningful of discussion tbh
short heath
Also it's not like they're permanently gone
It's for one month while they figure out new rules for them
outer eagle
imagine if every manga/anime/movie has a separate meme sub and ban memes on their own sub
short heath
Idk about banning memes for a month while figuring out how to make rules for them
I would think the better solution was if they just let it as is
And then just pop out new rules
short heath
imagine if every manga/anime/movie has a separate meme sub and ban memes on thei...
Well tbf
fading stratus
are you saying theories are just rate my team of anime/manga ryu
short heath
Most anime communities are just cumulative circlejerks
outer eagle
are you saying theories are just rate my team of anime/manga ryu
have you seen anime/manga/game theories?
vagrant steppe
You've gotta have new content for that kinda sub to keep being active
fading stratus
i've seen a few one piece theories
outer eagle
the shitpost levels of those threads easily surpass the worst stinkpost
fading stratus
and most of them are just "oda is god"
vagrant steppe
When there's a break in official content or the show/whatever is over, there's not gonna be enough without memes and theory/fan art/whatever
And other than the regulation change (which doesn't matter as much when 75% of the sub is showdown OU), there's no new official pokemon content worth discussing rn
short heath
Again I don't think the overall change to the sub is good but I see where they're coming from
outer eagle
When there's a break in official content or the show/whatever is over, there's n...
competitive pokemon snap trust
vagrant steppe
So it's gonna be a lot of "rate my team", "review this replay", and "DAE think Gholdengo is too good?"
short heath
I mean
Those are people actively looking to get better at the game
At least those first two
People getting better in a competitive game imo is meaningful
outer eagle
and those aren't going to disappear no matter what
vagrant steppe
Yeah but you get better by actually testing the team
short heath
Improvement doesn't always come from simply playing
vagrant steppe
That'll do way more for you for finding issues than "one reddit user said Lando-T is better than Gliscor rn"
short heath
If you don't know exactly what you're doing wrong or right
vagrant steppe
I mean obviously you should be reading threads and stuff too
fading stratus
also pokemon isnt really that deep of game to have theories such as "holy shit guys i think unalloyed gold reverses time when you're in farum azula" and stuff either
outer eagle
like, it's more important imo to let semi-comp players who are more interested in comp than casuals but are also less knowledgable than vets to participate in a community
short heath
People asking questions and getting answers is a straight net positive no matter how dumb the question is
vagrant steppe
But if you really don't know what you're doing with a team you'll learn a lot more from testing said team than you would from just posting a team you haven't tried and waiting for feedback
short heath
If the defacto reply to people asking questions is "OML just google it"
The community would quickly garner a bad rep
vagrant steppe
It's like when people ask how to change a yugioh deck or whatever before even testing the deck
You wanna get experience with the playstyle so you know what you're actually doing
short heath
People could be testing but just testing wrong
I know people who say they cooked up the "Best deck ever" because they got like 5 negates by playing on solo mode edopro
vagrant steppe
They could, but testing gives you an idea of at least something
fading stratus
I know people who say they cooked up the "Best deck ever" because they got like ...
"it came up once in a super niche scenario so its good" is also another thing
short heath
Like I get it if you think the questions aren't smart or thought-provoking
But saying they're not productive is something else
Those people who aren't testing and instead asking questions
Are like
Still there
Not answering them would just leave them there not having done anything
Even if the answer to their question is "Test out the team first and see its strengths and weaknesses"
That's still something that left them as a better player than they were before they posted their question
Even if it's by the smallest amount
vagrant steppe
I mean the rate my teams will always be there
They're just not particularly engaging content
short heath
I mean of course fluff posts are always there
vagrant steppe
No one goes "man I got really into VGC because of a rate my team"
short heath
But we're not at "Most upvoted comment of the character gets eliminated" style posts
Yet.
You're not really gonna fully eliminate fluff posts
vagrant steppe
Yeah, I just think the memes were good
short heath
I mean the memes still exist
vagrant steppe
They got a lot of people to try less well known formats like UUbers too
short heath
They did make a subreddit for that
vagrant steppe
Hell, Ubers UU wouldn't have been an official ladder without them
pseudo goblet
@normal cave @mighty storm @bleak pine https://x.com/kappanuki/status/1776686141544255813?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
Twitter
fading stratus
i wanna eat dat
short heath
If anything I dont think the current state of the competitive subreddit is nearly as bad as the
shudder
Nuzlocke subreddit
mighty storm
<@275683793975771137> <@268199601817780234> <@456226577798135808> https://x.com/...
I need this as a regional variant
short heath
I can get behind "Rate my E4 team" and "How did this AI flub happen"
And of course fanart and comic posts are always wonderful
But good god
If I find one more "Guys I found a shiny" or "I beat Fire Red on my 5th attempt"
Or even "How do you guys rule rare candies"
That last one does run counterintuitive to 'there are no bad questions'
That's just a me thing
vagrant steppe
They're not rare candy-pilled smh
short heath
I've seen that exact question like 10 times this past month
short heath
They're not rare candy-pilled smh
If Im being honest
There are certain runs where I just won't candy
Not even for "Oh I want EVs"
But just because
Im a nuzlocke oldhead
vagrant steppe
Fair. I just think it saves a lot of time
I don't wanna spend 3 hours grinding when I could go straight to actually playing
short heath
It goes like this for me
Grinding takes a lot of time
But that's time spent with your pokemon
Which increases your attachment to them
Which leads to you being more invested if they get in danger or die
This process like
Only applies if you want to do casual story-based runs
I would never forgo candying a hard rom hack
But when people say something along the lines of "Nuzlockes lost their charm"
Normalisation of candies play
A big part in the "character" being taken out of a run imo
It makes the nuzlocke challenge more about the challenge
Which can definitely be a good thing
Another thing about the nuzlocke sub is that the posts are
Extremely varied
If your a casual/hardcore runner
You're not gonna find appeal to around half the posts on the sub no matter what
short heath
I stand by it
mighty storm
@waxen moat
alternative sharpedo evo for slowpoke
@Mat4265 on twitter is the artist
bleak pine
Green dinos
mighty storm
so many green trans dragons 
spice rivet
Also, Til even if you give a shadow a 2nd move, it wont get the CD move unless Frustration is gone 🙃
bleak pine
y'know, I always found the whole deal with Shadow Pokémon in GO just very poorly handled
spice rivet
So there 180,000 stardust wasted
bleak pine
It's made pretty clear they are suffering.
And a lot of times they never really get purified cause of the damage bonuses that they receive for attacks
spice rivet
Oh ya Shadow pokemon are pure power creep and they fumbled it so bad
Also at first there was no shadow bonus
bleak pine
Makes you wonder what a lot of NPC's in-universe would react to this news about a lot of trainers just, not even making an effort to purify them
spice rivet
So I putified good mons because I thought all it would do is make it more candy/dust efficient to raise
Then they added the Damage boost
And its like bruh
bleak pine
Honestly, what they had before was fine
Like, yeah, nobody is gonna use Frustration, at all. Yet at the same time, when you make it so Frustration can be removed via a Charged TM, the damage bonus and the like... then what?
Plus the act of purifying stuff seems to really set off a lot of trainers. Had someone back then really try to let me have it for purifying a mon I had.
I'm just glad to know I helped that mon out.
Even though there's really nothing at stake for either choice, it just makes me feel good
spice rivet
I probs wouldve never purified these 2 at the very least
They were both like 14/14/x beforehand
bleak pine
And yeah, at the least there is a good point to purification: stat bonuses
bleak pine
Oooh
sterile verge
Oh cool
sterile verge
Unironically I think the Horizons cast beats out like half of the other casts
Definetly beats advance
pseudo goblet
Unironically I think the Horizons cast beats out like half of the other casts
The Rising Voltacklers are so good
sterile verge
Real
pseudo goblet
tacit sphinx
Not excited for the gamble I’m taking on the Walklocke now
warm sky
I posted the top 2 memes of /r/pokemonmemes today
Yeah I dislike that subreddit so much. I saw the Lusamine one yesterday and it's so bad.
And now I can't even get to enjoy the stunfisk memes...
Because God bless this one
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this is actually funny
there's more irony in this because even iron crown is powercrept
normal cave
Because God bless this one
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bro you're lazier than me
pseudo goblet
@fading stratus Shiny Hunt for Legendaries is on now baby
Oh wait you re here now lmao
Sowwy
pseudo goblet
you're lazier than me
no shot you'll fill up a shiny dex
Exactly, so it’s a life long goal
And an incomplete one for sure
Look I ain’t gonna go so far as getting nearly impossible shinies okay lol
pseudo goblet
just create a new profile
It’s gonna be shinies from all kind of games, or in other word, hehe that means I’d get some more shinies from GO 😈
fading stratus
that's just cheating
pseudo goblet
that's just cheating
Still gonna try get the shiny in mainline game first before I commit crime lol
Also kinda glad I like bugs… so I’m feeling the need to get shinies ASAP
Why, cherry Tomatoes is back
I hate them rolling off the bread
fading stratus
my man hates tomatoes
pseudo goblet
my man hates tomatoes
Not as much as I despise Tofus but sure
There, it only took two tries to get all 9 tomatoes this time
Found it 
No mark and Impish
And a second one not long after the first one
Ooooh Sleepy-time mark for this one
When I used a Timer ball on it 😅
11 mins left on the sandwich, gonna try for wild Roller or Heracross
Area should have Larvesta too
Okay it’s all Larvesta lmao
pseudo goblet
Oh cool, my Ceruledge got an Itemfinder mark now, didn’t even know that’s a thing
bleak pine
spice rivet
That’s it, officially making HOME Shiny dex a goal of mine
Trust me, its a lot of work, but it is pretty satisfying
fading stratus
yozzoy out here flexing
spice rivet
Ye, the only reason I havent done more of the Ultra Space rng manips is because they are hell ☠️
pseudo goblet
spice rivet
And Dynamax Adventures is ok, just mindless. Good while you're watching a movie or something
pseudo goblet
I am planning on getting my 3DS and do SOS pokemon I can’t get in SV
Idk, something like Furfrou or what not
pseudo goblet
@fading stratus The fact we finally see somebody scolding Geeta https://youtu.be/5DZak4jMkLU?si=aTqoTsTNAwt5840c
sterile verge
<@703113512901410858> The fact we finally see somebody scolding Geeta <:KEKW:622...
Masters unironically has good writing
pseudo goblet
So true, too bad still spin-off lmao
sterile verge
I mean main series has better writing I'd argue
pseudo goblet
Masters gave us a moment where Blue of all people to teach Bede a lesson about be less of a bitch so hey, it’s great lol
I’m welcome to mainline and sideline stories lmao
bleak pine
Red actually says something
...And he does it in front of Flint.
I just think he said something cause he just knew nobody would actually believe Flint.
pseudo goblet
...And he does it in front of Flint.
I just think he said something cause he ju...
Nah, in my memories he did say something once or twice in front of large audiences
The Flint one was one of the first time he speaked
bleak pine
Ah
sterile verge
sleek sky
one of one... in a different way
fading stratus
<@703113512901410858> The fact we finally see somebody scolding Geeta <:KEKW:622...
fading stratus
974th out of 974 players ☠️
I was following boyt the whole tour and it was so sad dude went 0-4 drop
boyt's insane if he does good tho
dude has won a regionals with cottnee
or topped world's with salazzle
also the thumbnail is golden btw
he just took the wolfe thumbnail and slapped his face
fading stratus
yeah
tho boyt has worlds invite already so whatever
only sad thing is he's out of contention for travel awards
I wanna see random ass mons top worlds
spice rivet
Ye
I loved the Clear Amulet fast Iron Hands set from Reg E and the Sinistcha set too
fading stratus
boyt top 4'd a regs with tera ice ice punch iron hands
tho I'm surprised you watch him as well
spice rivet
Ye, I try to keep the pulse on the general goings on. Especially his Pokemon guides which are nice to just get a rundown on what a mon can do so Im better prepared for when random mons show up
fading stratus
oh that makes sense
spice rivet
I find his team building to be out of the box, and I also love when he does like full break downs on teams, match ups, EV spread etc
But also in general, he's also super fun to watch. Mans a demon sometimes!
fading stratus
ye
pseudo goblet
Metagross is pretty good <@430667447692034059>
Taking breaks from Unite, hell yeah Metagross
fading stratus
fading stratus
yes
fading stratus
https://youtu.be/y4dZLn5e7IY?si=-KzRS6d3NKDXDHVx
@random stream this
random stream
pseudo goblet
@fading stratus @spice rivet @mighty storm @bleak pine A promise I made with @waxen moat
bleak pine
Ayyyyy
fading stratus
where's the stinky one too
bleak pine
Slowpoke~
pseudo goblet
and name it captain duckster
Someday lol
Ive like, killed at least 800+ Slowpoke for this one
mighty storm
<@703113512901410858> <@145350010526105600> <@268199601817780234> <@456226577798...
Slowpoke!
pseudo goblet
made 3 sandwich, I manage to kill the whole the whole Slowpoke Outbreak thrice, all within 10 minutes, the rest 20 mins was me killing the slowpokes without outbreak
In all Honesty, this was a bad idea
oh right i forgot more info about new girl
fading stratus
which new girl
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
which new girl
The slowpoke lmao
fading stratus
the slowpoke girl is naughty for zane
pseudo goblet
Funny thing is, When I went and look up any other way to tell which one is shiny, I found this one that says you can use the camera with Vivid filter, the shiny's tongue looks red-er than the rest
Which is funny cause the sandwich I made is Spicy lol
fading stratus
lol
pseudo goblet
Funny thing is, When I went and look up any other way to tell which one is shiny...
And after I learned the method, tried the method myself, the Shiny actually finally show up 😅
fading stratus
now catch all 3 black tauroses in shiny
pseudo goblet
at this point I am the embodiment of weird coincidence 😅
pseudo goblet
now catch all 3 black tauroses in shiny
nah, already having plans for tomorrow, I checked todays Outbreak lol
mighty storm
Funny thing is, When I went and look up any other way to tell which one is shiny...
yeah slowpoke's shiny is color inverted
Shiny slowpoke has normal slowpoke's tongue as it's body color
mighty storm
and normal slowpoke's tongue has shiny slowpoke's body color
pseudo goblet
you were the one who got afraid of some burnt people
eh, the gif earlier was fine ig, idk other scenes yet
pseudo goblet
wdym so soon
soon means Youll see soon 
mighty storm
I shouild do some shiny hunting, its been a while
pseudo goblet
Hold up, I was checking on some things in HOME, But apparently it’s been 6 years since my first ever shiny
right now its April 10th for me, wtf man Why I keep getting these kinds of coincidence, Im scaring myself
fading stratus
its been like 10-12 years since I caught my first shiny idr
my first shiny was shiny spearow in fire red
pseudo goblet
It's also zubat
LETS GOOOOOO
pseudo goblet
rip
Jesus Ducky looks so pale here
So many nice outbreaks, Deerling for Sawsbuck, Axew(need), not sure for Charcadet, I do really like Skiddo's shiny, maaaaaaaaaybe on the Steene, Rockruff, and the Target mon but I can't reveal yet
pseudo goblet
I shouild do some shiny hunting, its been a while
Shiny hunt an Inkay
pseudo goblet
lol, random shiny Mienfoo, when I was just wondering what the shiny color for it look like
And~ it knows High Jump Kick, crap
Caught it in two premier bal- Ayo Inner Focus and Jolly
pseudo goblet
<:pogbound:1106644308091748472>
Oh nice, I was gonna ping you after I get some images
pseudo goblet
I think I had a shiny Mienfoo family member in sword already??? idk, better check
pseudo goblet
Pink shiny, my favorite color
Funnily enough I was waiting for a shiny Furret or the prevo to ping you for a wezl shiny
Mienfoo got in line first ig
pseudo goblet
Hmm, apparently no, strange, but I keep forgetting the shinies I have in sword file, starting from Togekiss, the Mudsdale no count cause it has website name
Like my memory keeps saying ‘all the shiny I’ve gotten in Sword was the egg shiny Scorbunny’
random stream
pseudo goblet
Caught it in two premier bal- Ayo Inner Focus and Jolly <:peepoS:800572164054450...
@fading stratus Please tell me that’s the ideal set for Mienshao, also how is it in comp?
pseudo goblet
Thank god fairy sandwich just needs Tomatoes, and not the cherry tomatoes
normal cave
pseudo goblet
HAHA!! Shiny skiddo near the end of Academy Special!
When the deerling outbreak didn’t give me a shiny lol
Calm and Sap Sipper
Jesus the night cycle is still going ffs
My main target today is day spawn only, cmon 💀
fading stratus
<@703113512901410858> Please tell me that’s the ideal set for Mienshao, also how...
you defo play regenerator in singles atleast
in doubles inner focus is much more valuable
also don't ever play high jump kick
play close combat
pseudo goblet
Wait wtf Wezl gets Regenerator???
fading stratus
yes
in doubles inner focus is so good that you play it over multiscale in dragonite
pseudo goblet
Im not sure you of all people should say that so soon lol
Also @fading stratus , that is twice today that I found a shiny and the person I wanna ping shows up immediately
Cmon man, I wanted to make you and Bruial join by ME pinging
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also zane I just returned after watching monkey kiss lizard
good movie
(godzilla x king kong)
pseudo goblet
You pretty much called Ribombee weak <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
I literally had a trained Ribombee in Pokémon Brick Bronze specifically against Hoopa when dev added the genie
fading stratus
i've never played brick bronze
pseudo goblet
Btw, night cycle happened again right after I got the shiny, now I can’t continue the sandwich with the bee atm
I’m just running around Kitakami and hoping for Shiny Ralts
Which, apparently the Paldean Ralts is day time only???
fading stratus
there's no paldean ralts
pseudo goblet
Better than me calling them Japanese and Spanish lol
Me imagining them talking telepathically but in different languages
pseudo goblet
What the fuck I’m not allowed to find Cutiefly at night but here I am finding a- maybe static? Ribombee during night
fading stratus
sword shield was years ago
normal cave
Huh
Feels like only yesterday
I didn't play during swsh, and when I did play showdown sv Mienshao wasn't available iirc
pseudo goblet
What the fuck I’m not allowed to find Cutiefly at night but here I am finding a-...
Oh come on! A single Cutiefly this time??!
Aight, sandwich is gone, no Ralts, only Shiny Cutiefly, better luck next time ig
Better get to Axew outbreak quick
normal cave
Axew
pseudo goblet
You’d expect dragons to prefer eating meat like bacon or Sausages, nope, avocados for dragons
Also wow all the shiny sandwiches really need Cucumbers and Pickles
normal cave
Cucumber pickle avocado sammich
Honestly? Sounds decent.
I'd try to let the avocado shine and use the pickles for a bit of sweet and sour, and the cucumbers for crunch.
Sounds like a delicious and healthy smitch, dragons have good taste 
pseudo goblet
As long it’s not Cherry tomatoes or the evil Tofus, sure lol
fading stratus
lol idk why you hate tomatoes zane
pseudo goblet
lol idk why you hate tomatoes zane
Try putting 9 of them on the bread in game yourself
fading stratus
no
pseudo goblet
Btw goddamn this is the second overworld blizzard happen during this Axew hunt
normal cave
Try putting 9 of them on the bread in game yourself <:KEKW:622347587516628993>
The trick is to slice them in half so they don't roll around
You can also make a confit out of them and bake them directly onto the bread
pseudo goblet
The trick is to slice them in half so they don't roll around
Tell that to GameFreak
normal cave
THEY PUT CIRCULAR CHERRY TOMATOES ON THEIR SMITCH?!
The smitch will fall apart and you'll get weird bites of super tomato
They'll explode in your mouth and overwhelm the other flavors
While leaving other bites void of tomato
pseudo goblet
THEY PUT CIRCULAR CHERRY TOMATOES ON THEIR SMITCH?!
Half sphere actually
Other ingredients easily stacks high, SV cherry tomatoes rolls off the bread as easy as you drop them too close together
pseudo goblet
AXEW CAN SPAWN ON BOULDERS?! FUCK
pseudo goblet
4 of them spawned on the big rock I never check until now, shit
And 30 minutes up, redoing the sandwich
pseudo goblet
Yeah if you haphazardly toss them they'll roll around
Game also so strict, making you reset the sandwich or else you don’t get the right kind of effects you want lol
1 tomato drop=who knows what effect you’ll get
normal cave
Yeesh
pseudo goblet
Almost 2 hours, still no shiny Axew
FOUND IT
Within 25 min this time
Oooh female, I believe that 4 or 5 female shiny I’ve gotten in row??
Rivalry and Modest, wtf
Does SV have Gen 4’s diamond dust weather??? It’s snowing but it’s colorful snows
Found a second shiny Axew
Please, at least have Mold Bre- wth it’s a baby girl again lol
Rivalry again
mighty storm
Does SV have Gen 4’s diamond dust weather??? It’s snowing but it’s colorful snow...
yes it has diamond dust
pseudo goblet
yes it has diamond dust
Okay so Google didn’t lie to me, nice
Btw, finished as many outbreaks as I could, manage to get Shiny Steene and Shiny Charcadet
I am tired, from shiny hunting 
mighty storm
Btw, finished as many outbreaks as I could, manage to get Shiny Steene and Shiny...
ooh which evo you gonna go for?
pseudo goblet
ooh which evo you gonna go for?
Baby, for now
Going for living dex as much as I can
mighty storm
ah ok