though I do see the similarities
#Pokemon
pseudo goblet
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Kompeito_konpeito.JPG/...
the same candy anime Nebby likes to eat yeah
pseudo goblet
fun fact, the first time i learn about these was from Hamtaro
mighty storm
Minior shiny hunting snack 
bleak pine
It's probably a really big bag, as the same says
pseudo goblet
😨
bleak pine
Ojama-looking schrimbo
pseudo goblet
lets hope Ducky didnt see this
mighty storm
@waxen moat we saw this, so now you do 
pseudo goblet
welp lol
mighty storm
lets hope Ducky didnt see this
Ojamashell
pseudo goblet
god the eyes weirds me out lol
waxen moat
<@189578328544378880> we saw this, so now you do <:PuddingSip:527758227371327498...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
mighty storm
its not that bad
pseudo goblet
its not that bad
Reminder that Ducky fear of snails and slugs lol
Oh and leech too
So, slimy creatures
mighty storm
Oh
pseudo goblet
I mean for me, yeah my reactions earlier should tell how I feel about them too lol
Maybe it’s an asian thing, idk
random stream
should be bafari bone I think
actually not sure what to do vs him yet
Flygon should be able to handle ludi
I need to use a water/ground to contest wailord
I'm gonna see if I could time a explosion as well
outer eagle
not sure what you can even do against him tbh 
maybe like DDance spam or something
not sure if Whiscash has that in gen 3 tho
random stream
Yeah no ddance this gen
cosmic power claydol 
Claydol definitely has to boom on something
random stream
not sure what you can even do against him tbh <:OgreThink:562491300537171978>
Looks like FlygonHG did pp stall into sub cosmic power claydol
ironically they didnt get flygon, it was sandslash and baltoy in the desert + mirage tower
random stream
he did protect + pivot spam 
sand forge
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ou-suspect-process-round-8-voting.37311...
Are they just never banning Gholdengo or what
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
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pseudo goblet
Silly Penny, you must pay a visit to the menu screen everytime you change outfit color
Sadly and annoyingly
pseudo goblet
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the giraffe
swift jasper
the giraffeeffarig
spice rivet
harsh path
mighty storm
Khu's not even riddling, this is just a statement on terapagos ability
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new eevee event
fading stratus
today I realised regenerator doesn't act under neutralising gas
pseudo goblet
mighty storm
More Khu not riddles, just factual to the point facts
golden lance
||Not even 1 gen with negates and gamefreak already invented spell speed 4, when will it end /s||
mighty storm
||I assume this mean little turtle form changes into the big turtle through an ability.||
spice rivet
Late observation, but ai realized why the Charm - Oldest of the Misfortune Sisters has a Gengar and Rhydon.
She's supposed to be a reference to Agatha and Bertha. Guess that old fan theory that they're related holds water
tacit sphinx
Are they just never banning Gholdengo or what
"this hazard stacking meta sucks"
"remove the thing that makes that viable"
"no"
warm sky
warm sky
Gonna need a UUbers at this rate
Isn't it already an unofficial format for gen 9?
golden lance
Yes
mighty storm
I think terapagos might be dragon/psychic
From the Paradox beasts we've seen (Raging Bolt,Walking Wake) they both share a dragon type, then the paradox swords (Iron Crown and Iron Leaves) all share the psychic type
And terapagos would fit as the "third" legendary to the Raidon kings which are both dragon type
pseudo goblet
I think terapagos might be dragon/psychic
How the mighty dragon psychic type fallen from Ultra Necrozma to turtle lol
placid junco
Tbf it’s not like ultracrozma got a ton of use because dusk mane was crazy busted
golden lance
Ngl i wish we had gotten more modular mons like ultra necrozma
That was fun to play with
warm sky
Tbf it’s not like ultracrozma got a ton of use because dusk mane was crazy buste...
Tbf a lot of sets still used both, dusk mane into ultra is a huge threat if times right
sleek sky
fading stratus
doku is having a aneurysm today
doesn't let me put ||deoxys in mythical psychic and cosmoem on legendary psychic||
tacit sphinx
Doku is down rn
kind vortex
beat this asshole severely underleveled
it's a gimmick fight in case that wasn't obvious
sash abra lead that uses trick room
the other 2 mons are ||level 45 kadabra and level 85 alakazam||
anyway, that's 2 star shards taken care of
i think i'm finally ready to go to jail
fading stratus
this reads weird
also is it pre nerf gale wings or post nerf
or is it flame body
fading stratus
ah
long stone
Also, the cell reception on that phone must be seriously impressive
It's literally possessed by a ghost. i'm sure you can even call the dead with that thing.
pseudo goblet
@mighty storm turtle plush https://vxtwitter.com/poke_times/status/1724351474635784395?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
tacit sphinx
Fuck I did bad on the Doku today
fading stratus
such a weird doku
pseudo goblet
Huh, just realize
In Pokémon Horizon so far, Both protagonist had battle against 1-2 gym leaders
Roy - Brassius and Kabu
Liko - Kabu
Kabu helped Liko and Brassius helped Roy, so, what a coincidence that the gym leaders both uses same pokemon type the kids have but reversed 
Iono didn’t really do much except basically show off her face, tho I guess she’s with Dot
mighty storm
<@268199601817780234> turtle plush https://vxtwitter.com/poke_times/status/17243...
so cute ❤️
warm sky
OH THEY RETCONNED THAT HUH
When I did it, it didn't count
Also ||Kleavor|| shouldn't count???
vagrant steppe
OH THEY RETCONNED THAT HUH
When I did it, it didn't count
Oh lmao, I had no clue
warm sky
Yeah I did it in the morning but hadn't posted it because I was salty they forgot to add ||Dialga Origin||
kind vortex
||counting black augurite as a stone is bs lol||
warm sky
True!
kind vortex
today's doku murdered me
vagrant steppe
||I mean it's quite literally a rock||
kind vortex
||it's quite literally not called a stone||
||the category is 'was evolved by stone', not 'was evolved by item'||
vagrant steppe
||The in-game description calls it a stone||
||It just doesn't have "stone" in the name||
kind vortex
||it not having stone in the name is the relevant point||
||if we're going on the item description, then i'd need to see it in the original japanese to know if that also calls it their equivalent of 'stone'||
||and even then it's definitely not intuitive||
sand forge
They should've called it the Stone Stone
And also change the name of the Sun Stone to Noon Stone
Or Shiny Stone to Noon Stone
soft cradle
tacit sphinx
I would play an entire Pokemon game with stop motion aesthetics
mighty storm
khu post about 19th tera
long stone
khu post about 19th tera
||rainbow terra||
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<@703113512901410858> whens training bro
I'll return from my village soon™️ then probs
cloud scaffold
village?
fading stratus
I'm at my village rn to celebrate festivals
bleak pine
Clef
fading stratus
LMAO
bleak pine
Genuinely Clef just feels like it projects some kind of "field", causing just about any situation to get like 66% more irritating for the opponent when it's around.
vagrant steppe
Stall is INSANE this gen btw
Been playing this team
And like? It's so easy to just wall them
fading stratus
didnt they reduce recovery moves to 8 pp
idk about wish tho
also covert cloak ghold over lefties?
vagrant steppe
I've played with both, I'm not sure what I prefer but cloak feels better
This team struggles against like ogrepon wellspring and zamazenta
But everything else feels fine
fading stratus
just play thunderbolt in ghold :3
vagrant steppe
I mean we've got Zapdos
What blows me away tho is modern stats
Zapdos, a formerly fast mon has a speed of 260
Ogrepon has like 340??
fading stratus
I think in doubles atleast ogerpon goes into around 140-145ish
no idea about singles
140 in lv 50 is 275 in lv 100
ogerpon max at lv 100 goes to 350 apparently
zapdos max goes to 328
vagrant steppe
Still fucked it's so much faster
fading stratus
10 more base speed goes a long way
tacit sphinx
I think I did okay on the Doku today, 114
sand forge
85 Doku & a theme 😀
sand forge
Good to know
pseudo goblet
@fading stratus https://vxtwitter.com/avhycch3x80kcue/status/1724766977695318143?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
pseudo goblet
Oh god how would six eggs be able to wear focus band lmao
fading stratus
what about falinks
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oh yeah zane I found out why tiktok didnt work for me yesterday
I think my country banned tiktok lmao
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Nepal
maiden flax
ooo
pseudo goblet
I think my country banned tiktok lmao
Have you try vpn? 
pseudo goblet
Lmao
maiden flax
that means it indeed got blocked
pseudo goblet
VPN, the key to everything fun 
fading stratus
tiktok isn't worth using a vpn to access
fading stratus
makes sense
maiden flax
tiktok isn't worth using a vpn to access
Me but with reddit
pseudo goblet
I don’t use Reddit
fading stratus
I sometimes use reddit to troll people alongside people in gen
pseudo goblet
Let’s GO!!! MY FRIENDS 
https://youtu.be/0-Gop4SSKak?si=S3IARhIHSVrW0dxi
@fading stratus @maiden flax @random stream
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I like the guy's accent
pseudo goblet
That aside, damn it when will they add a new Defender
Not like I’m using all of them, but still lol
Oh wait, with this my two fav Pseudo got into Unite
Other one is Goodra btw
Dragonite, Tyranitar, Garchomp and Dragapult are in too
Guess we waiting on Salamance, Hydreigon, Kommo-o and Baxcalibur
fading stratus
hmu when they add bruxish on unite
pseudo goblet
hmu when they add bruxish on unite
Probably a wild Pokémon for exp in a summer beach map lol
Whenever that is
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using anything but ||pumpkbaoo/gourgeist|| feels throwing
random stream
Maybe they make Metagross a defender @pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
Maybe they make Metagross a defender <@430667447692034059>
Nah, I checked, yet another All Rounder
Same with Gyarados
random stream
I do like all rounders
Also the starter Evo buff is really good
super early evolves on the trio + stat buffs
pseudo goblet
It’s gonna fucking take a Shuckle to get us a new tank
Then again… they made Crestle fast af because of Shellsmash, hermit is harder to catch than some speedsters
golden lance
Remember that before the day 0 patch the quartet of ruin had 10 more bst and their abilities' stat decrease was 50%?
spice rivet
I totally forgot about that lmao
fading stratus
Also proto/quark boosted all stats by 50%
spice rivet
Also shoutout to a Kommo-o from the Battle Tree in prepatched Sun & Moon that had Shell Smash.
Then it got its Z Move in USUM, then in Gen 8 onwards it got its own special boosting move
Also I RNG manipd Shiny Entei, Raikou and Suicune from Coliseum, so I'm turning them into Ribbon Masters.
Pray for me lmao
spice rivet
Also also, nearly done my 100% Living Dex. Just need 5 Gender difference mons (Venusaur, Meganium, Torchic Line) then it's just alt forms.
Shame Go to Switch connectivity refuses to work if you have a Samsung phone so I cant send myself Post cards for Vivilons 🙃
warm sky
sand forge
The only bug-type move in the game
flat wing
On a base 125 atk
vagrant steppe
Okay after more ladder testing, Wellspring and Gholdengo both need to go
Neither of these pokemon are fucking okay in singles lmao
mighty storm
Rip my emerald team <:pensivecowboybread:737367263635570688>
no shinies got deleted at least?
kind vortex
yes lol
vagrant steppe
Wild
mighty storm
gotta give that a watch later
pseudo goblet
Same
mighty storm
crimson moat
tacit sphinx
So
My Game Boy Printer works
But even sealed in a package, the thermal chemicals degrade after 20+ years
Still, ta da!
What I’m gonna have to do is find some modern receipt paper and cut it to match the printer size
mighty storm
pseudo goblet
@bleak pine https://vxtwitter.com/poke_unite_jp/status/1724955442999374081?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
pseudo goblet
The tail tho lol
bleak pine
Pulling off a sick wheelie
...Yeah, the stubby tail sticking out is dumb, but charming in a way
pseudo goblet
Sidenote, I think this is a Nacli salt 🧂 container lol
@mighty storm @fading stratus
fading stratus
I need that
pseudo goblet
The box reminded me of those- Chinese writing ink bottles for classes
pseudo goblet
Which- now that I think about it WHO the fuck needs that, no people do ink writing these days
bleak pine
Only issue is there's no mon that I imagine would fill in for a role as a pepper shaker.
...Maybe Bayleef? Closest I got
fading stratus
I need a pencil sharpener like that not pepper holder
bleak pine
Bayleef pepper grinder in which you have to keep twirling it's leaf to get it out
pseudo goblet
I need a pencil sharpener like that not pepper holder
bleak pine
Please don't stick a pencil in Roggenrola's ear
That
Would be very painful
for you
pseudo goblet
How come people never say ‘regional rocks’ group like they would for regional birds/mammal
bleak pine
Like, I love how weird Roggenrola is
fading stratus
Please don't stick a pencil in Roggenrola's ear
I wanna stick a pencil up its as-
pseudo goblet
I’m counting like Geodude, Roggenrola, Rolycoly and Nacli
bleak pine
It's just, a weird rock that just a single ear more or less
pseudo goblet
~~Bayleef pepper grinder in which you have to keep twirling it's leaf to get it ...
Oh actually, Scovillain prevo
bleak pine
Yeah, that'd be alright
pseudo goblet
Pepper lol
mighty storm
https://vxtwitter.com/pokemon_pdc/status/1724713862337823189?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCc...
❤️
tacit sphinx
unusual doku, I got 155
fading stratus
random stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iedVYIKEULs
ACE 
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||sinnoh legendary didn't take giratina origin||
they edited it after you said this
kind vortex
they edited it after you said this
yeah i noticed lol
warm sky
Damn almost had the lowest score
pseudo goblet
Huh, Pokemon got Yoasobi https://vxtwitter.com/serebiinet/status/1725076644514103481?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
fading stratus
I have high hopes for it
bleak pine
Oh jeez no not ARC-V
pseudo goblet
Fucking hell that takes way too long to kill
Probably best let Magikarp players do jungle, I mean, I doubt it can survive Bottom and Top lane conflicts, better lv up in peace I think
latent sleet
its probably a level-up as soon as you can character
so yeah i can see it being a jungler
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the stance
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if it stands firm at one place = single strike
if it spins like weird = rapid strike
also rapid strike does the snake pose
while single strike does the kung fu pose
if you see them once you should be able to remember tbh
sand forge
They've gotta nerf ||Gourgeist and Pumpkaboo||
If you add them up they're higher than ||Trevenant||
fading stratus
that's the point :3
golden lance
Ok i found a easier way
Their leg hair is different
Single strike's hair is up, rapid strike's is down
vagrant steppe
Isn't their hair also different?
Yeah single strike's headband and hair are up
And rapid covers his face
fading stratus
I only ever notice the stance tbh
kind vortex
breloom based
spore actually did its job and kept it asleep through each bar
iirc it had 4 total hp bars, so got a bit lucky
(this thing's a solrock/lunatone fusion boss bc this game has that lol)
vocal torrent
kind vortex
correct
bleak pine
Breloom is always based!
fading stratus
send pic of solrock-lunatone fusion
kind vortex
send pic of solrock-lunatone fusion
kind vortex
ye
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seems like stat are different than solrock and lunatone
70 base speed doesn't reach 25 even at a speed lowering nature
interesting
kind vortex
the stat spread is almost certainly different, i just don't care enough to investigate it right now lol
so instead, have a frozen furret
leaving this one contextless bc it's funnier that way : ^)
bleak pine
You take the moon and you take the sun-
twin shard
kind vortex
pokemon rejuvenation
bleak pine
I know this fan game supposively is a massive improvement over like Reborn
kind vortex
tbf reborn's final update was a decent improvement in and of itself (at least in the early game)
bleak pine
But I still just feel like fan games work best when they aren’t like, super grim dark or whatever. Just how I feel
That poor Furret though
bleak pine
Still working on storyboarding for something else I wanna do, might eventually do some drawing
kind vortex
it's pretty outdated compared to more recent releases at this point, but pokemon gaia is probably the one i've had the most fun with as an actual story
bleak pine
Ah, cool
kind vortex
it's pretty standard but it works well enough and didn't try too hard to be edgy and cool or whatever
i like how this random gift just spoiled the whole crest plot well before you can even do it
good thing i had played v13 already?
bleak pine
The few trends I noticed out of some fan games (and those few aren’t necessarily bad but these tend to be shared traits) are like:
Grimdark stuff
Being very, very competitively focused (not a bad thing, since a casual fan likely isn’t gonna pick one of these up)
A loooot of decision paralysis that players can get with too many ways to play(maybe?)
A lot of them just throw in Cynthia for whatever reason.
bleak pine
i like how this random gift just spoiled the whole crest plot well before you ca...
Welp
kind vortex
it's technically side stuff (but actually is one of the more 'grimdark' aspects of this game)
bleak pine
Ah
kind vortex
spoolerz ||so there was this ancient civilization and they experimented with using the souls of pokemon to create items that enhance them||
||game gave me a crest (among other things) and assured me that this one wasn't made with souls : ^) ||
bleak pine
I can probably say, playing a bit of Dragon Quest has given me plenty of ideas to try out in a Fangame
Here’s hoping I write well enough
(Honestly though I probably don’t need to stress too much over writing, since these games usually don’t have like, very grand plots in the first place)
kind vortex
i would say that if you care a lot about writing a good story, go original and write a book or something else instead of using pokemon for that, unless you want to do fan fiction, in which case, maybe don't do that in the form of a game either
bc yeah, the draw to a lot of these isn't so much the story as it is the mechanics they throw in
that said, nothing stopping you from attempting it
ofc you can also work on your own original game, but that's a lot of resources
fading stratus
the stat spread is almost certainly different, i just don't care enough to inves...
the stat i posted is the stat of the fusion
mighty storm
https://i.imgur.com/Ud4xIl3.png
not the furret!
spice rivet
Finally got my Pokemon Go to connect to Scarlet again
Now I just need a way to get more Post cards for Vivilons
pseudo goblet
https://i.imgur.com/FOec0KD.png
https://i.imgur.com/u8VxeSj.png
Naughty Boy 😈
swift jasper
maiden flax
i like bellibolt betraying her lol
fading stratus
Larry my beloved
pseudo goblet
I would kill if it’s for Larry
pseudo goblet
@fading stratus @mighty storm https://vxtwitter.com/serebiinet/status/1725446407388061770?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
RIN!!!!
mighty storm
cute
fading stratus
mighty storm
long stone
Volcarona as a Night Moth Regional variant when...
crimson moat
vagrant steppe
UUbers is the sign of a healthy gen
mighty storm
Im excited for new shiny hunt targets next month ❤️
mighty storm
bleak pine
Nooooo not the sushi
reef cosmos
i still think it is hella weird that snorunt resembles neither of its evolutions
also for some reason snorunt has (very dimunative) hands and feet while glalie has, for some ultra baffling reason, no external appendages
glalie looked kind of cool but suffers from bad defensive type, bad moveset potential, and being a mediocre jack of all trades (all base stats 80)
pseudo goblet
Nooooo not the sushi
reef cosmos
glalie looked kind of cool but suffers from bad defensive type, bad moveset pote...
it's japanese name, オニゴーリ, can be vaguely interpreted as oni goalie
pseudo goblet
it's japanese name, オニゴーリ, can be vaguely interpreted as oni goalie
Can confirm
Ice hockey anyone
Also I keep thinking Onigiri 🍙 sometimes looking at Glalie lol
reef cosmos
koori generally meaning ice
suffice to say, it is a rather nondescript oni with ice powers
pseudo goblet
Which kinda goes well with anime character Sango, she’s scary
Still not entirely sure why people likes her so much 
Girl literally exploded with anger, same with her Glalie but even more so
reef cosmos
ice has no +2 stat boosting moves
haze is of questionable utility to ice types
only thing good about ice types is their offensive moves being pre-fairy era dragon killers
and their infamous hax rate
pseudo goblet
Literal glass cannon
fading stratus
I still don't know why they keep making bulky defensive ice types
reef cosmos
i still dk why cloyster is ice but not shellder
pseudo goblet
Dev must’ve tried punching ice cubes and got hurt
fading stratus
lol
pseudo goblet
Why did coconut crab went and become yeti lol
fading stratus
why didn't you
pseudo goblet
Cause I’m not strong like red lol
fading stratus
why so weak why so weak
reef cosmos
snorunt chain is one of those evolution families that makes no sense
pseudo goblet
Elaborate
pseudo goblet
Wurmple line lmao
pseudo goblet
@fading stratus @tacit sphinx @vocal torrent @bleak pine @mighty storm Oh right forgot about this https://vxtwitter.com/zakochirashi/status/1725527891356897436?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
Don’t know who else to ping
fading stratus
woop
pseudo goblet
a snow hat -> an ice oni
Iirc Snorunt was based on SORT OF a Japanese yokai, maybe
Froslass is Yuki-onna, literally snow woman, the Yokai took care of a baby, which can be seen as what Snorunt resemble, child of the snow woman, I’m just not sure if the baby was human or Yokai in the legend
Also yeah a snow hat/cloak too
reef cosmos
granted feebas to milotic also has no resemblance at all but it was more or less intentional and there was at least a hint of what it would evolve into (max beauty through contest candy)
and was an okay bulky water for the time
pseudo goblet
Smh talked about Feebas line but not Clamperl, which is kinda more problematic
There’s no irl counterpart of shellfish become eels right
Right 
reef cosmos
no one had multiples of deepseascale or deepseatooth without hacking so
or battle tower cloning
it was encounterable too late
pure waters with no specific niches
need to have dive available to catch and then another cart and gba to trade with
too much to go through for mediocrity
fading stratus
well tbf feebas was also only available in like 4 tiles
reef cosmos
yh it wasted time but its availibility was still miles better
just have super rod and surf and then test every water tile on the route
gen 3 had some weird ideas
pseudo goblet
Spinda 
reef cosmos
shedinja
pseudo goblet
Regis
I guess it’s tradition every gen has their own ‘wth’ ideas
Volcarona and Hydreigon
Malamar and Runerigas
reef cosmos
biggest wth idea from gen 3 was mirage island
fading stratus
mirage island was a cool idea just wynaut wasn't
reef cosmos
to get liechi berry you must visit mirage island
pseudo goblet
Wait Wynaut was gen 3? My stupid ass thought it was 4
reef cosmos
determination criterion for island generation not viewable in in-game (the PID needed)
has nothing to do with your skill or game progression
about as hard as finding pokerus or shiny
i forgot if the gamecube titles provided liechi berry
but like the legal way is nearly impossible to meet without using data viewing
location had flavor but was awful otherwise
sand forge
Pokedoku
sand forge
||no way they have bloodmoon ursaluna in final evolution ground||
I guess it's ||technically a form of Ursaluna?||
Are there any other Pokemon like that
outer eagle
well do the Necrozma forms count as final evos of Cosmog then
sand forge
and why isn't Blood Moon Urslanuna Steel/Normal
fading stratus
He doesn't have the grind
pseudo goblet
Huh, Pokemon got Yoasobi https://vxtwitter.com/serebiinet/status/172507664451410...
Ay
Ooooh Larry, sort of
Even got the w
Guess the protag didn’t google what’s the correct order of gym they should take for level
fading stratus
My man larry beat them so bad they got super depressed
pseudo goblet
Larry taught well about how an adult feels, more than Giovanni did
spice rivet
need to have dive available to catch and then another cart and gba to trade with
One nice(?) Thing was Gorebyss and Huntail weree also 5% fishing encounter in X and Y (Versiom exclusive ofc). It how I got mine back in the day
void herald
fading stratus
just let her cosplay as her fav mon
spice rivet
Let her cook
pseudo goblet
just let her cosplay as her fav mon
Context, they added Elaine and poke kid from SwSh
For free during event btw
Not Elaine, it’s gonna be hard to get both Penny and Elaine before they re gone 
pseudo goblet
Let her cook
Nah, leave that to Arven
Which, should be the last one of the SV rival trio to get into Masters
pseudo goblet
Let her cook
Actually you know what- yeah I’ll eat Penny’s cook, since it’s probably instant noodles and I kinda prefer those over fancy stuff lol
mighty storm
<@703113512901410858> <@107723084735201280> <@204575530769448960> <@456226577798...
da woop 
bleak pine
<@703113512901410858> <@107723084735201280> <@204575530769448960> <@456226577798...
woopah
pseudo goblet
Hmm
Guess I’m picking Meganium for starter (heh)
Furret (duh)
Crobat (easy)
Mareep line
Wooper
Umbreon
Scizor
Heracross
Swinub
Kingdra
Blissey
Raikou
Lugia and Ho oh
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
Hmm
Guess I’m picking Meganium for starter (heh)
Furret (duh)
Crobat (easy)
Mar...
If I have to be stricter on my choice
Crobat
Mareep line
Umbreon
Scizor
Swinub
vagrant steppe
mighty storm
less then a month until part 2 of the dlc
sand forge
https://vxtwitter.com/touyarokii/status/1725677172080173501?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcE...
I gotta go with Flaafy
golden lance
https://vxtwitter.com/touyarokii/status/1725677172080173501?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcE...
Scizor
Heracross is a close second, and crobat for my 3rd
sand forge
Flaafy, Swinub, Heracross I think
fading stratus
My top 3 are probably Crobat Murkrow and Heracross or Suicune
pseudo goblet
Scizor
Golbat
hmmm Murkrow or Ttar?
Golbat 
reef cosmos
one of gen 4's gimmick was location-based evolution
how do we feel about that mechanic?
do you really want to go to some place specific to level up your magneton/nosepass/eevee?
reef cosmos
i was surprised it was dropped outside of its premiere gen
i kind of liked the concept of it
but i think move-based evolution criteria was better over all
gen 4 was really busy expanding ways of how pokemon could evolve
reef cosmos
i just noticed castform totally has pikachu eyes
sand forge
The concept of location-based evolution is interesting
I just wish some of them weren't postgame
reef cosmos
yes i like that a game's setting can have some impact on the evolvability of a pokemon
it was never ingrained into the plot of the sinnoh games though
in the end it proved to be a throwaway idea rather than a genuine tool for worldbuilding
crimson moat
The only game that really handled them well from a game progression perspective is Platinum
and that was just to make up for DP having a shit dex
reef cosmos
i also thought the physical/special split was actually long overdue
hyper beam ran on the attack stat for 3 gens straight
also to play as deoxys attack you musr be running firered
the game version segregating what variant of deoxys you had access to was annoying so i was glad 4th gen introduced the meteorites that toggled deoxys formes
gen 3 was definately full of ideas that didn't pan out that well
gen 4 was very atomospheric especially if you look at the (sadly not actually distributed) azure flute event
fading stratus
Context, they added Elaine and poke kid from SwSh
you mean lets go
I was like who tf is elaine
pseudo goblet
you mean lets go
‘Poke kid from SwSh’
pseudo goblet
https://fxtwitter.com/jsketch12/status/1725605027094602040
Oh man Raz posted it first, it was a nice art tho
pseudo goblet
Oh hey, long time no see Buby- I-I mean Magby 
how cute, they re trying to make this character pair with Orio/Orla and Elekid
pseudo goblet
Oh hey, long time no see Buby- I-I mean Magby <:clueless:1053714975870431302>
Damn it I can’t concentrate everytime the Magby says it’s Japanese name 😂
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Why is there a bomb fuse on those pink pokeball
wtf girl, you trying to recreate Jet Ball??!
GIOVANNI!!!! 
Why would this be needed????
bleak pine
When you really want to give the mons a sporting chance by having it detonate in your hand, I guess
pseudo goblet
Ooooooh, this would be interesting
im sure yall can spot a pair of well dressed gentlemen lurking there
fading stratus
doku ig
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
Me having realization that Rage Fist is basically killing Primeape when I clicked the video 
maiden flax
Me having realization that Rage Fist is basically killing Primeape when I clicke...
Yes cause primeape's Pokedex mentions it dying from getting too angry
Annihilape is when it gets too angry to die :x
pseudo goblet
Yes cause primeape's Pokedex mentions it dying from getting too angry
Annihilape...
pokemon SM dex entries was wild lmao
fading stratus
assuming that entry is even real
maiden flax
assuming that entry is even real
Well annihilape just proves it to be real :x
Was so angry it died but it got even angrier that it died that it refused to die :x
pseudo goblet
vengeful spirit kinda
fading stratus
ghost pokemon are weird
pseudo goblet
... just realize it WOULDVE BEEN GREAT, if Annihilape was already in Gen 1 and we werent limited to just Gengar 
or A-Marowak if playing Lets go
for Ghost types
pseudo goblet
how come that two Ghost type pokemon that have roots in Gen 1- both also weak to psychic lol
fading stratus
marowak isnt weak to psychic
maiden flax
I think they mean annihilape and Gengar?
fading stratus
if you're saying annhilape because "its root primape is from kanto" so is "amarowak's root cubone"
maiden flax
Oh my autocorrect has the names of some Pokemon names
Like Gengar Greninja Charizard and Pikachu
maiden flax
if you're saying annhilape because "its root primape is from kanto" so is "amaro...
I think they meant 2 out of the 3 rather than just the 2
Seems that Sylveon is in here, Umbreon too, Espeon too, glaceon isn't, neither is leafeon, Flareon, Vaporeon, Jolteon are here though
And of course Eevee is here too
pseudo goblet
I think they meant 2 out of the 3 rather than just the 2
Yeah lol
To me, sometimes it feels weird to say like ‘Mamoswine debut in Sinnoh so it’s that’ even tho it’s root is from Johto Swinub, I prefer seeing a Pokémon line together despite they didn’t all debut at the same time
Like, Girafarig and Farigarif, Stantler and Wrydeer(even tho it seems to be Legend exclusive)
pseudo goblet
Seems that Sylveon is in here, Umbreon too, Espeon too, glaceon isn't, neither i...
Your autocorrect is studying what you like lol
mighty storm
this "leak" is going around, Khu confirmed it's a fake using his info + fake info (like how they didnt give dokutaro a proper name)
fading stratus
the leaks are almost always fake
remember the leak with monkidori having shadow tag?
lmao
or Oongaboongus
maiden flax
Your autocorrect is studying what you like lol
This phone is new that's impossible lol
pseudo goblet
You info are already leak to the great internet 
maiden flax
this "leak" is going around, Khu confirmed it's a fake using his info + fake inf...
The biggest offender is royal beast
As it completely destroys the naming theme the 3 of them have going so far
(Verb)ing (element)
mighty storm
the leaks are almost always fake
yeah the only leaker I trust at this point is Khu when it comes to text leaks (and even then, Khu posts in riddles 
)
fading stratus
khu stinky
maiden flax
The iron hooves one isn't as bad cause their naming theme is iron (type)
mighty storm
Khu is stinky, but he's got info.
mighty storm
The biggest offender is royal beast
As it completely destroys the naming theme t...
literally this
fading stratus
I'd kill someone if terapogos is somehow || rock normal||
sand forge
Pokedoku gaming
mighty storm
||rock and normal were part of the types Khu riddled for baby turtle||
pseudo goblet
I'd kill someone if terapogos is somehow || rock normal||
mighty storm
||personally Im thinking rock/dragon||
sand forge
this "leak" is going around, Khu confirmed it's a fake using his info + fake inf...
Even without Khu, this is clearly BS
Double Shock turning the Pokemon typeless isn't new, and it isn't a hint
sand forge
Not Gholdengo?
vagrant steppe
Poison/Fighting with good stats and movepool too good
Gholdengo continues to bribe OU
It's funny, at this point, Gholdengo is kinda holding the meta together
He's the only thing keeping hyper aggressive teams from just absolutely fucking up the format
fading stratus
wasn't sneasler considered mid without dire claw
vagrant steppe
Dire Claw pushed it over the edge, but the post mentions new sets without dire claw gaining popularity too
vagrant steppe
Tusk is the only spinner in the format lmao
He and Gholdengo are the only thing keeping singles from becoming super aggressive hyper hazards
If you look at teams without Gholdengo, they're running something like 4-5 heavy duty boots
It's BAD
pseudo goblet
Don’t mind me https://vxtwitter.com/kianamaiart/status/1725931273368240189?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
vagrant steppe
Treads is in OU yeah, but he's kinda bad
Literally tho, gamefreak just outright didn't try this gen for balance
This shit is insane
And you can bet your ass the next dlc is gonna bring another 10 pokemon for this list
fading stratus
I like how half of the mons here are mons good in doubles
and other half are awfully unplayable
vagrant steppe
I like that my team at the start of the format is almost fully banned
fading stratus
you could probably like slap any 6 mons here and make a decent team
vagrant steppe
I was playing something like Bundle, Mane, Chien Pao, Gholdengo, Roaring Moon, and Tusk
And Gholdengo and Tusk are holding up the format because if they get banned it arguably gets much worse
vagrant steppe
Like I've fully swapped opinions on Gholdengo getting banned
He's super centralizing yes
But if he goes, the format falls apart
pseudo goblet
https://preview.redd.it/j3z8ojt4i91c1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=852...
Odd, where Zacian
vagrant steppe
Gholdengo is literally holding together the format
kind vortex
where zacian
how's that odd
pseudo goblet
Fair
vagrant steppe
Sneasler is an interesting ban actually. It hits the really aggressive teams a lot
kind vortex
zacian is very obviously too much for ou, not even worth a test
fading stratus
when are we banning kingambit
kind vortex
is uubers a thing now?
vagrant steppe
UUbers is officially recognized now, yeah
fading stratus
heard there's a uuber ladder
kind vortex
neat
vagrant steppe
It's on the beta branch, but you can play the ladder
fading stratus
gen 11 OU will have calyrex shadow trust
vagrant steppe
For OU, imma have to see if we can cook up something stall-breaky
Since it's gonna be all stall all the time now bby
kind vortex
sucker punch has near universal proliferation so shadow rider isn't a real threat : ^)
vagrant steppe
Honestly tho this is what happens when you take rapid spin away from the masses
fading stratus
I always think about getting into singles but the 30-40 turn games frighten me
vagrant steppe
Rapid spin and scald
kind vortex
tbf scald got a little bit of distribution back
vagrant steppe
I always think about getting into singles but the 30-40 turn games frighten me
Most games were like 9, but we're entering 40 turn land
kind vortex
but ye
vagrant steppe
tbf scald got a little bit of distribution back
True but it's saying something that Alomomola is OU because of scald
kind vortex
alolomola was ou before scald iirc
vagrant steppe
Well that and regenerator
kind vortex
it had the right defensive situation going for it
fading stratus
when are we banning waterpon btw
vagrant steppe
I guess there's wellspring but she'll be banned next week after all
kind vortex
the oni hate brigade out in full force
pseudo goblet
True but it's saying something that Alomomola is OU because of scald
Next thing the world gonna tell me purrugly is super good in competitive lol
vagrant steppe
I should just get into doubles at this point
kind vortex
raikou decided enough was enough and crossed over into pokemon to kill more onis
fading stratus
doubles is chaotic
vagrant steppe
I mean, do you see gen 9 singles?
kind vortex
if you're interested in doubles i'd probably just play official ladder at that point
fading stratus
showdown is better for doubles
vagrant steppe
Yeah I'll build a doubles team later
kind vortex
(and hope pokemon finally makes doubles more of a thing on cart)
vagrant steppe
I miss gen 7 doubles tho, that format was fun as hell
fading stratus
showdown has open sheet and bo3
vagrant steppe
Lead with xurkitree and oricorio-fairy
kind vortex
showdown is fine to test but you can get neat things for doing doubles on ladder or at events
fading stratus
I mean, do you see gen 9 singles?
half of doubles top 10 usage mons are like mons banned in OU
kind vortex
it's ogerpon-hearthflame, not ogerpon-balance
fading stratus
kind vortex
i actually like rock quite a bit
fading stratus
regualar oger is fine
vagrant steppe
Rock is a fair mon
kind vortex
stone edge but accurate is legit
vagrant steppe
And Regular isn't that insane
fading stratus
regular with scope lens is the goo
vagrant steppe
It's really just Hearthflame and Wellspring that shouldn't exist
fading stratus
ogerpon would be fair if the masks didn't give like a 1.2x boost
vagrant steppe
But fair doesn't sell dlc
The quality isn't selling it either, so might as well make the new mons broken
fading stratus
Its insane how broken dlc mons arw
vagrant steppe
Broken DLC forces comp players to buy it
fading stratus
last gen it was impossible to compete without dlc
because of certain panda bear and horse
this gen is a bit better atleast until dlc2
vagrant steppe
Yeah there was a good video on the dlc pay 2 win comp problem
fading stratus
because of certain panda bear and horse
also a cetain electric weed
fading stratus
Yeah there was a good video on the dlc pay 2 win comp problem
oh there was a vid?
vagrant steppe
They really overtuned the dlc mons to force you to buy it
fading stratus
wonder if the turtl is gunna be a restricted mon
probably right because its the face of dlc
fading stratus
they gunna make the turtle able to tera for free or sth without using the team's 1 tera
like primals
fading stratus
which one
vagrant steppe
Arceus'
vagrant steppe
First Mon to be banned from AG
fading stratus
is black horse not banned from AG yet
vagrant steppe
Is it?
fading stratus
idk
if it isnt idk what will
they'll need to give it like 200 SpA and 150 speed or sth
and gains stab on every type with its ability
vagrant steppe
Arceus gains stab with every type
fading stratus
i think its like judgment is super effective type no?
vagrant steppe
Yeah
But it stays the changed type and in situations where there's 2+ types that would be correct, it picks the one with more resistance against the opposing mon
fading stratus
what type does judgment hit a elektorss with levitate holding an air balloon
I wanted to make a rotom fan with levitate holding an air balloon joke but that's not possible
fading stratus
wonder how many more mons are getting banned from OU post dlc2
vagrant steppe
At least 5
fading stratus
its so sad that cat is bad in singles ngl
vagrant steppe
Which cat?
fading stratus
In doubles Incin has won every world's its legal with intimidate
which is 3 I think?
pseudo goblet
fading stratus
pseudo goblet
That makes the third confirmed female grass starter in anime
Also omg sassy-sister pet cat yes
fading stratus
just wait til all sprigatito does is spam attract
pseudo goblet
Eh… Sprigatito shown potential to use better ‘leaf’ moves but all Liko’s command are Leafage-variant
kind vortex
leafage: 40 bp
your best leafage: 41 bp
pseudo goblet
Smaller/larger/Best-possible- Leafage
There’s even one for sharper Leafage- why not just give her Razor leave already 🤦🏻♂️
That is clearly not a simple Leafage
pseudo goblet
just wait til all sprigatito does is spam attract
Heh, against Fuecoco? Yeah right
fading stratus
is fuecoco female too
pseudo goblet
Ehhhhh, not confirmed but I assume boy
Even if it’s a baby girl, baby’s true love is food lol
fading stratus
lol
pseudo goblet
Wattrel tho… I am not sure for bird
Thankfully Liko’s Hatenna only got one gender so fans have less to theory about
fading stratus
when's roy gunna get a slither wing
pseudo goblet
‘Pokemon Roy’ gave me a lot of Raihan gif for some reason, I ain’t complaining tho
long stone
broken idea. but what if there was some kinda legendary that can revive itself by disabling 1 of its moves. for a total of 4 revives. but each time it does it, it's HP is cut in half.
so let's say, 80 > 40> 20> 10...
How much annoying would it be
i guess in some way, that's just legendary sturdy
pseudo goblet
Maybe Ghost Grass Pokémon with high speed, or else that kind of revive feels basically giving free kill
With status move and heal
long stone
yeh the speed has to be the selling factor
vagrant steppe
I feel like it'd be insane since you get like 3 extra team slots out of it
pseudo goblet
Probably high Hp but okay-ish two defenses, Blissey came into my mind but like, trying to make this concept actually work, not situational
vagrant steppe
You'd just band/scarf/specs it tbh so you don't worry about losing moves,
crimson moat
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sneasler-is-banned-from-sv-ou.3731467/
I mean he kinda deserves it but I thought the string cheese man was next?
vagrant steppe
I mean he kinda deserves it but I thought the string cheese man was next?
String cheese is safe for now
And I've honestly joined the "Gholdengo is a necessary evil at this point" camp
In testing without Gholdengo, hazards and setup can steal games way too easily
crimson moat
This gen is so fucked that you can ask about when will they will get rid of the problem and “which one” is a perpetual response
vagrant steppe
Honestly
But yeah, it's saying something that teams without go have 4-5 heavy duty boots
Removing rapid spin was a mistake
Straight up, this format would still suck, but improve 10x if they gave us rapid spin back
It's half the reason every team runs tusk
Hell I was trying my hyper offensive team out and lost to spidops into wellspring because they set up web and there's just not a way to answer that this gen
kind vortex
who's using spidops to set webs instead of ribombee
vagrant steppe
True. Ribombee would have been better for them
kind vortex
also isn't gholdengo core on those kinds of hazard-dedicated comps
blocks spin and defog
vagrant steppe
But the lead of webs into swords dance into Wellspring sweep just can't be answered without Gholdengo
Gholdengo is on both sides of the game, yes
He blocks spin and defog, and he also blocks the hazards coming in in the first place
He's definitely over centralized rn
But losing him is probably worse when there's like 2 viable mons with rapid spin
You'll find me dead in the ground before you find me using Avalug
kind vortex
pu knights
vagrant steppe
Your options are: Great Tusk, Avalug, Quaqaval, Cyclizar, Fortress, and Morpeko
Everything else is with banned or not worth mentioning
kind vortex
glimmora?
vagrant steppe
Believe it or not, Glimmora cannot rapid spin
kind vortex
does mortal spin not remove hazards
vagrant steppe
Oh right, Mortal Spin
It does
Yeah, I guess add Glimmora to the list then
Still not enough mons to make up for losing Gholdengo
Especially when really only great tusk and Glimmora are playable
Quaqaval isn't bad, and Cyclizar is fine
kind vortex
morpeko's kinda funny bc it resists both of gholdengo's stabs
but it's probably too frail to meaningfully check it
vagrant steppe
Yeah 100%
Honestly tho, I think this gen is just fucked
Without banning like 30 more mons, which would defeat the point, singles is just gonna be hell
kind vortex
inb4 people are like 'ban tera' as if that would fix things
like okay, you get volc and some others back, but then what
vagrant steppe
They have tested banning terra
And it does help a bit
But even with terra gone, the banlist is still like reasonably 20 pokemon
It's the Pokemon designs this gen that's the issue
I've heard CAP does a lot to fix it this gen, so I might try out CAP later
I'll probably get into doubles tho, but I think gen 9 singles is just unimaginably fucked
fading stratus
Surely open sheet tera helps
mighty storm
Even without Khu, this is clearly BS
facts
sand forge
Why does a Pokémon that has a 4x resistance to water have Water Absorb
vagrant steppe
Which one
sand forge
Waterpon
maiden flax
||one major complaint
Floette eternal isn't a mid stage, it can't evolve||
mighty storm
I still need to make a team for Indigo Disk
pseudo goblet
I still need to make a team for Indigo Disk
Pokémon with indigo color shiny only
pseudo goblet
@fading stratus @golden lance https://vxtwitter.com/startboii1/status/1726278683093323815?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
golden lance
If you look at teams without Gholdengo, they're running something like 4-5 heavy...
What a lack of defog distribution does to a gen
pseudo goblet
<@703113512901410858> <@708512166470483998> https://vxtwitter.com/startboii1/sta...
Hmm, i really wanna say Metagross for Franky, Duskull for Brook and Jinbei with rapid Urshifu
vagrant steppe
What a lack of defog distribution does to a gen
No defog, no rapid spin
Like do you really wanna play Avalug
vagrant steppe
That's why Great Tusk is so good
It's a good pokemon that also has access to rapid spin
Otherwise you're playing fucking morpeko
fading stratus
ah yes fairies
fading stratus
<@703113512901410858> <@708512166470483998> https://vxtwitter.com/startboii1/sta...
nice nami art
maiden flax
What a lack of defog distribution does to a gen
I mean
Corviknight mandibuzz and Scizor all have defog this gen
None of them are running it cause none of them do enough damage to gholdengo to actually defog
Cinderace though gets to bypass it and hatt prevents it from happening in the first place so they are both used as hazard control
maiden flax
It's a good pokemon that also has access to rapid spin
No it's cause it's an extremely versatile Mon which can fill a ton of rolls both offensively and defensively
maiden flax
Mandibuzz has all the making of a good defogger
Defensively it's good, especially this gen, its not passive with toxic, knock off and foul play letting it be great, heavy duty boots let's it get in without taking rocks damage
So what's preventing it from being used?
Gholdengo
Despite having a type advantage having like 65 attack and a 55 spark stat means you ain't doing jack vs gholdengo
Like this is the most amount of damage mandibuzz does to offensive gholdengo
0 Atk Mandibuzz Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gholdengo: 152-182 (48.2 - 57.7%) -- 93.8% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Mandibuzz: 208-246 (49.1 - 58.1%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO and here is how much offensive gholdengo does to it without warning
Like the Smogon set for mandibuzz this gen for OU is iron defense foul play
Like mandibuzz and croviknight have both historically been good defog mons and while mandibuzz tended to be outshone by other defensive hazard removal mons due to the metas they were in, mandibuzz by all means should be a good defogger this gen but it just can't beat the stupid cheeseman while corviknight is out here playing defensive while.not bothering with defog
Scizor has been less good as a defogger though it has had it's moments when you just needed one on an offensive team (though I guess cinderace fills that niche way better than Scizor ever did)
That reminds me
Early swsh also had a lack of defoggers which lead to some desperate people who didn't want to use corviknight or cinderace to use things like Hawlucha and conkeldurr with defog lol
fading stratus
we ban ghold waterpon kingambit rilaboom
mighty storm
need myself that disk turtle but dlc still so far away
mighty storm
so cute
golden lance
Ngl
I wish they would change spore to have negative priority so that toedscruel wouldnt have to be stuck with mycelium might
silver vigil
fading stratus
I should do today's doku
tacit sphinx
probably the lowest i'll ever get on a doku
sand forge
I second-guessed myself so much on this one
fading stratus
this is one of the doku of all time\
I like how gooey and I have half the mons same
kind vortex
don't think i'm ever topping this
looks like everyone here got sub 50, which is kinda nutty
vagrant steppe
Sub 50, but actually I think I can do better by cheating
Nope turns out that one is exactly the same
I expected him not to be used
fading stratus
got betrayed by a hat boi
kind vortex
||people are catching on to cowboy hat lol||
fading stratus
yeah
vagrant steppe
Oh well, got the same score even if I didn't cheat
Good to know he's not worth trying next time tho
vagrant steppe
Yeah but if I check all the scores people used I'm sure I could get sub 20
But that's cheating cheating
kind vortex
yeah i'd be totally fine with 36
fading stratus
yeah 36 is a really good score tbh