#Pokemon

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hmm

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thanks

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||Inkay gaming||

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picked ||iron jung for dragon behind the realization|| KEKW 🤦‍♂️

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there's a mon called iron jung?

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tf

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you mean jugulus don't you cheems

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it's a sad excuse for a mon

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i mean have you seen HOW it came into existence in the dex lol

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isnt it an alien or sth

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i forgor

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Hydreigon fucked a robot

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oh yeah lmao

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the forbidden love story as they say

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It's the worst paradox

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Even though I'd want to say Sandy Shocks

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probably jugulus or thorns

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HOW THE HELL ALMOST HALF OF THE PEOPLE PICKED ||MALAMAR||!! KEKW

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that's the first thing that comes to mind tbf

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fair yeah lmao

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but like, you would thought people pick the prevo because of the anime lmao

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it has a very interesting evo method

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I'd say you pick the evo because of the stupid Evo method

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just saying, im quite happy seeing it being this popular nyaruhodo

pseudo goblet
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its so sad that future paradoxes got short end of the stick

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design wise they're just fucking robots

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literally in some case

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what the they havent add Raging bolt yet???

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cmon cheems

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bolt is not in game yet so understandable really

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the strategy for doku I figured is

  1. Use gen 9 mons
  2. Use alternate forms
  3. If two has same common choice but one fullfils above criterion then use the common mon in second one
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2b) search name & then pick Zarude Dada

pseudo goblet
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huh, i forgot Scream Tai is psychic

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4 of my choice got better score than 'common answer' board

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||kinda cheated with cyclizar and regigigas so not counting them||

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||if you cheated anyway then tf you chose regigigas||

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As long as you didn't ||pick Type: Null||

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cant think of a better pick

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||silvally arecus||

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teammate is trolling us with pikachu afk cheems

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Too late

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Reality can be whatever I want

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The return of the king

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mine was 182

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Yours was 186

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oh it was

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still i didnt do twice EZ

pseudo goblet
spice rivet
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After spending 5 min on the GTS. I hope Furfrou is in the Indigo Disk so the GTS can burn to the ground 🙏

pseudo goblet
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Trust me… I tried…

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You notice they ask for SPECIFIC haircuts?

latent sleet
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don’t you lecture me with your 30$ furfrou haircut

spice rivet
# pseudo goblet You notice they ask for SPECIFIC haircuts?

Ya, though the only real reason thats an issue rn is because the only way to get the alt Haircuts is through Go.

Bank would revert the Furfrou to base form if put in so there was never any way to get those haircuts from XY/USUM into Home. Hopefully if Furfrous in the DLC it will let us get the haircut and transfer it into Bank easy.

pseudo goblet
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This look like that Hydra from Yokai watch monkaTOAD

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At first glance for me at least

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Is there even another option for Psychic/Dark and Normal/Dragon?

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||malamar inkay hoopa||

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||vroom vroom||

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||I forgot Inkay was, thought it was pure psychic||

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||oh right, Cyclizar||

pseudo goblet
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random stream
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||guzzlord nyaruhodo||

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kind vortex
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i soloed with fezandipiti

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other good options also exist

snow oasis
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@pseudo goblet @waxen moat

crimson moat
# snow oasis

They need to be all on the ground unconscious except Kingambit, and the snowball needs to be much bigger

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You get given 6 categories (3 along the top, 3 along the side) you have to pick the least popular choice for each of them

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"Reality can be whatever I want" refers to a bug in the game where ||Type: Null wasn't considered a Normal-type Legendary||

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idea for regional applin, Pineapple applin

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I feel that'd be more of a

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wigglet

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for newer gens

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nah this one would actually be applin

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just in a pineapple

pseudo goblet
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OH NO, They are implying Volo got time travelled to modern time monkaGIGA

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Also, it was funny looking at Rei trauma-shock seeing Cynthia with her Giratina KEKW

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Pink nyaruhodo

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NO WAY KHU POSTED THAT

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this is big monkaTOAD

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||implies new game announcement||

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but also ||"Lets do our best this week", this means news this week!|| @pseudo goblet

pseudo goblet
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and the line Masuda posted in general is always before news

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today's doku ig

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idk why the text at the bottom became like that

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||Mega Strat failed me 😔 ||

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The meta has evolved

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||if there are too many mons generally going for gen 4-5 is safer and unevolved or middle stage||

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Also ||Gen 6 mons are so forgettable||

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i chose ||rotom|| because too many formes

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True, true

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I remembered ||Heliolisk but thought it was Gen V||

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so i knew

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:3

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probably the favourite

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Damn my score today sucks

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0.7% pick not enough

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getting beaten by sickle is new level of shame

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# short heath

I just went with what I thought of for my first guess, then realised what the point of the challenge was

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ah

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I'm also shocked ||Galvantula is below Charjabug||

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True

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Too many gamers

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that also shocked me

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Also picking dlc mons seems to work out

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i hadn't even thought of ||rapidash being fairy||

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I guess ||being a massive disappointment is memorable enough for Vikavolt||

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i was between ||scream tail and whimsicott lines||

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everyone chose ||skiddo||

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or evo

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warm sky
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today I won

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Perhaps i lack in the creativety department

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every dog has its day ig

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:3

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@sharp kernel you wanted ninetales the third place list kinda looking neat

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accidentally clicked the wrong column when entering the middle bottom one

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was fun tho

obsidian juniper
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all tyranitar did in stream was knock off

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that's it

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then got killed

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atleast sandstorm chip helped win the finals

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kommo o was the real mvp tbh

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+4 body press otk'd almost everything

sharp kernel
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Eh I saw the games

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And tyranitar was actually the best bait

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Nobody was letting it stick

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Which let kommo o go crazy

pseudo goblet
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This looks perfect to do a little snootboop

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Or just good ol headpat

shut loom
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Why the fuck does the Pokemon Conquest Discord have Tear emotes?

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someone is a ygo player

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They also have the game cover.

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Lmao. Didn't notice in the emote list but it says conquest conquest. Prob an in joke.

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But do they have one that says “Pokémon Pokémon”

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Oh that’s how you spell her name, or really it was just me never tried look up her name

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Seriously just let Wattson in already, I don’t really like him that much, I just feel bad for the gym leaders that hasn’t got in yet

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another day lets see if @sharp kernel dodges regional prep

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@pseudo goblet Yamper confirmed to got the zoomies

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so isn't the new detective pikachu game like

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kinda dogshit

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Btw, How well i did?

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smaller UNIQ means good right, guess im second place here after Yami?

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that is all

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like, it's not even worth it to pirate

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i'd have to be paid to play that after looking through a gameplay from a streamer

warm sky
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this game was uber delayed

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it was meant to go out in the gen 8 era

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they shoved in so many gen 8 shit in there, and there's no gen 9 in sight

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and like the gameplay loop is just talking to one person, then going to a second person... to talk to them

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the puzzles are childish at best

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we joke that pokemon is for kids, but like this is for 3 year olds

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and a 3 year old will get bored of the game in 5 minutes

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Yeah it's like weird because they could give us like

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POkémon Ace Attorney

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but everything I've seen is just

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kinda bad

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like, i didn't touch the game, but watching through most of rtgame's playthrough made me see all i needed

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the game is a walking simulator

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and this is coming from a guy that speedran a game that is essentially a walking simulator

ashen barn
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Oh my word, pokemon ancestral X just gave me a nuke of a mon

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Jolly rock head head smash spamming tyrantrum at the next gym

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With priority for once

ashen barn
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Or not
Just remembered this game is as hostile to rocks as they come. 2nd gym rock, 3rd fighting, 4th grass, 6th fairy with azumarills everywhere, and all of the elite 4 basically

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Is it cheating to use Bulbapedia for Pokedoku

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I can’t remember a mon’s name

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Fuck I clicked the wrong box and wasted a guess

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So I lost

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not like looking at bulbapedia gives you its uniqueness, and i didn't see any rules saying 'no external resources'

tacit sphinx
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I had a 0.5% guess too

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:c

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I could slip it to y’all as a pro tip

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But

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That would be cheating

tacit sphinx
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I dont like the sound of that

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New hair selfie with da woop

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@pseudo goblet @fading stratus

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He's gonna evolve

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but not yet, needs more mochi/medicine

long stone
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woopy boy

sharp kernel
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@fading stratus do you have any of the sacramento topping lists?

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not evs yet

sharp kernel
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that kommo o specifically was max hp so probably max hp somewhat atk and def evs 4 or 0 spD

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that's the first body press set to see success i think so not exact evs i know of

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bulletproof right?

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yeah

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bulletproof tera steel

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walls flutter

sharp kernel
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what item

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lefties

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for body press set if you want clanging scales set then probably throat spray

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or sitrus

sharp kernel
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wait we wall flutter with no spd investment?

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tera steel yes

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moonblast does whatever shadow ball doesnt because bulletproof

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tera steel iron head should ohko flutter with some investment

sharp kernel
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100 or more?

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in attack

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108 adamant should gurantee OHKO those 188 def 116 hp flutters with tera steel but most flutters shouldn't be that bulky

sharp kernel
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What about tyranitar ev's? @fading stratus

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ik it was AV

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I think it was jolly max speed

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it was outspeeding a bunch of stuff for no reason

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or adamant max speed

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Honestly, kinda want to try Roaring Moon in place of Ttar.

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ttar was tera psychic tera blast

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iron hands check

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roaring moon and t tar just do diff things

sharp kernel
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do you know what item his support h arcanine had?

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sitrus

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with howl will o wisp

sharp kernel
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tera water?

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yeah

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it was a decently bulky team

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and sand made everything super bulky

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everything is just t tar and harcanine

spice rivet
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yeah

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harcanine will-o-wisp-ing physical attackers was super good

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and sand gave spd boost

sharp kernel
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wait so was ttar AV? or was it something else

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av

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was rillaboom grassy seed then?

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grassy seed yeah

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so it could carry taunt

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T tar was AV low kick rock slide knock off tera psychic tera blast

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rilaboom was grassy seed woodhammer fake out taunt grassy glide

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arcanine was tera water sitrus rock slide flare blitz howl intimidate will o wisp

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howl is a really good move in defensive teams

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just gives rilaboom t tar or kommo o free +1

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The update to my Scarlet character is so good

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it looks good but where wooper

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swimming in the tera crystal water waiting for me to get the mochi and medicine to make them physically defensive

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ooh fanmade gible design

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just use vxtwitter in the link over x

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it'll show embed

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just make it dragon bug and give it heatproof

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I should make like a 5 mon team for Indigo disk

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wooper wooper wooper wooper dipplin

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Ogerpon is for sure on the team, Axel the wooper wants in to

mighty storm
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send pic of your box I'll choose for you :p

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Since its close to Unova I have to use my White 1 team

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my white team was super generic I think

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well black 2

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Lucario magnezone Arcanine Serperior sigilyph and bisharp i think

spice rivet
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Tbh same

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Samurott, Conkeldurr, Liligant, Chandelire, Hydreigon, Braviary

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3 of which got Hisui forms lol

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wasn't american bird thursday only encounter

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or sth

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i forgor

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and the legendary/goodstuffs?

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W2 it/Mandibuzz were static encounters

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Oh, that would take me a bit but I can show all the shinies on my scarlet file (Note pink sheep and event shiny charizard was transferred to other file)

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sure ig

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take dipplin wooper ogerpon basculegion slither wing and toxel

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gotta double check levels, the second dlc might still be 60s. But I'll think about it

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Ogerpon definitely on the team tho

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since dipplin gunna get a evo its mandatory

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true

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new twitter profile banner and profile pic

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much better then the green apple hair

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wait a second

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Im Ema Skye from Ace Attorney

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lmao

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the selfie pic was better for pfp

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both pics used the selfie stick

pseudo goblet
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OH that one

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idk, the lightning seems better in the plaza

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lightning

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lighting

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fair
just use whatever you think is good

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this idea is GOATed

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Today’s Pokedoku is dogshit tbh

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It ||didn’t count Cosmoem as a Legendary or Ultra Beast|| so I lost

jaunty wren
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does this mean top left corner is water fighting?

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ye

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Just dumb

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I hate ambiguous categories in these

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what even is a legendary ub? Hahaa
||cosmog line?|| or ||nekrozma||

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they've never been classified as UB in games afaik

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so its just headcannon at that point

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||MYTHICALS ARE NOT LEGENDARIES POKEDOKU||

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||I have no idea what they want||

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I'm not doing it

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because of that caytegory

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its just dumb

outer eagle
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Well aren’t the SM boxarts Ultra Beasts and also legendaries by technicality

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oh new pokedoku

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I just tried to check what they want

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they're not ultrabeast

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beast ball doesnt work on em

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and when nekrozma hasn't been caught the international police says "All ub have been caught" or sth

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also don't have beast boost

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or UB tag

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there's just not a legendary ub

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I probably could do rest ig

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||Oh right, there was slither wing for bug fighting!||

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here mine

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ain't gunna do the last one

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so Im doing decent on these right?

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||Still peeved at them lumping mythicals and legendaries together||

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||Like they are NOT the same||

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||And ultra beasts too||

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||calling poipole legendary is like calling bulbasaur legendary
its a mfing starter||

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The Blindspot today with ||2 50/50s is interesting, given nobody picked Stakataka for the last option||

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Also ||very nearly picked Grapploct for the first option 😔 ||

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not gunna do ||gmax again||cheems

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people are getting smart

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||Water/Legendary the best choice was Gmax btw||

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welp

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just wrong place ig

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Better do it next time, just to be safe

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Also ||Rock/Water||

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And of course, people are gonna start noticing it not working

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So now might be the time to start doing it again

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tru lol

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Other gamings ||Keldeo normal is below Keldeo Resolute||

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The meta is collapsing

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||ogerpon|| was honestly safe choice

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Seems to always be

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I still don't know how it is a legendary cheems

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||poipole i mean||

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||all ultra beasts are, I don't agree with it but it's in the rules||

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They did ||Grapploct dirty by making it mono fighting||

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This one sucked imo

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On an unrelated note

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Does Nihilego do anything in any tier

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harsh path
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Though especially in Gen 8 you have to be careful with her Defense being quite weak

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Still laugh of the fact that tpic tried to move away from representing meat and real fruits for decades now

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And then gen 9 sandwiches just outright go "here's ham and bananas, go nuts"

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lmao

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Slowpoke’s Tail isn’t meat apparently

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But yea like

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I legit wonder if the entire minigame was outsourced

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How do you ignore your own worldbuilding this hard otherwise?

maiden flax
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I may or may not have forgetten about the meat curries

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And fancy apple

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Wasn't there chicken in the anime

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And random non-poke fish

warm sky
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The anime originally had weird plot ideas about pokemon and real animals

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But those got dropped

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About how Pokémon came out of nowhere and have basically been driving normal animals to extinction

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Hence the original plot for one of the movies being "Dinosaur fossil comes to life as a skeleton t-rex"

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Furret finally became a turret

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im like, one of the few people that remembers Binacle line exist lmao

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i chose it too

pseudo goblet
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Dang, only second place again today

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today was like a golden place to get second

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because half of us didn't do the last one

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it'll be hard after tomorrow

pseudo goblet
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Will share later since at work but

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I had like 138 I think

pseudo goblet
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Placed third pensivecowboybread

warm sky
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Hold on lemme redo it on my phone

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Lowest is 132 so fuck ye

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Fuck this one

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What even other legendary bugs are there

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the ultra beasts

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yeah today was fucked up

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we don't talk about today

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Wait but that's bullshit because you've gotta use bug/UB and bug/fighting well before legendary bug

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You're almost guaranteed to not have a bug UB left if you don't remember Slither Wing or chicken out and use Heracross

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today's wasn't well built at all

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especially the legendary UB category

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Yeah I don't really count UBs as legendary, they've got a different Pokedex background

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So I just picked the UB that I thought had the lowest score at that point

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If you remove the UBs, genesect is the only legendary bug

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there's no legendary UB either

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Necrozma, technically

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its not allowed

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i tried that

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The game doesn't treat him as a UB, but he's mentioned to be from the same place

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He's another pokemon from outside our reality and the recon time says he's probably a UB

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In the anime they called him UB-00

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doesn't have a UB code or beast boost

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oh they do?

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in games they tell you all UBs have been caught even before you catching nekrozma

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Although technically Necrozma doesn't have prime number stats

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also beast ball doesnt have effect like UBs

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OH WAIT YES HE DOES

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Necrozma has prime number stats

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Actually the whole light trio does

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Solgaleo

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solgaleo isnt allowed either

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in doku

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i tried cosmog too

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Lunala

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pseudo goblet
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I'd 100% say Solgaleo, Lunala, the Cosmog line, and Necrozma should count as legendary UBs

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Necrozma even has a UB title

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He's UB 00 - UB B L A C K

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not in games

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Yeah I will admit

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True. But the games don't consider Silvally or Paradox legendaries

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I slightly cheated

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And we were able to use them yesterday

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Because technically speaking

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There is NO bug legendary

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yeah

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Genesect is mythical

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Well all mythicals are legendaries according to the games

warm sky
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And UBs aren't legendaries

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Not all legendaries are mythical, but when things ask about a legendary pokemon, you can show a mythical

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However, you CAN'T show a UB or Paradox

pseudo goblet
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They really should sort these op mon better cheems

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because event reasons but still

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True

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But in game checks do consider mythicals to be legendary

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Yeah at the least less bullshit than yesterday

vagrant steppe
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Sure they're technically 2 different tiers, but they're way closer to legendaries than UBs

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But still kinda bullshit

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very bullshit

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I'm mad that Genesect was the only thing that kept me from getting the lowest score lmao

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Because technically genesect should have been the only option for that one

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pseudo goblet
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Iirc anime does specify with them ‘伝説/Densetsu/Legendary’ and ‘幻/maboroshi/mythical’

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It's in game files, but also historically if an NPC has asked you to show them a legendary, you can show a mythical

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The same isn't true for UBs or Paradox

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hope tomorrow's doku is better

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they'll just put paradoxes as legendaries tomorrow I'm sure of it

pseudo goblet
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Watch half of next board is just Rotom forms lmao

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you have my word I'll try to do that tomorrow if i remember

spice rivet
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Michael Zhang won the Sacramento Regional Championships with a really fun team featuring picks like Iron Defense Body Press Kommo-O, Assault Vest Tyranitar, Howl Hisuan Arcanine, and more! Kommo-O has a really nice spot in the format right now since it matches up well against many strong physical attackers, such as Landorus-T, Kingambit, and Iro...

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sweet this should have the paste

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I KNEW TYRANITAR WAS JOLLY OR ADAMANT ALMOST MAX SPEED

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no wonder it was outspeeding everything

sharp kernel
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looking at it now

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my arcanine build was way off lol

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i put like no speed investment into it

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and did like a bulky regular arcanine set on it

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this makes sense though

fading stratus
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arcanine should have decent speed investment

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that 90 speed tier is such a common speed tier

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so you need to outspeed bunch of stuff

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lets say 85-100ish speed tier

latent sleet
#

tyranitar sweep is real

spice rivet
vagrant steppe
#

I miss excadrill

sharp kernel
#

Excadrill with tera would go hard

bleak pine
#

People go on about Arcanine

fading stratus
#

excadrill was decent in early 2020 dynamax format ig

bleak pine
#

Why not just give Ninetales the same base stat total

#

Seriously

fading stratus
#

alolan ninetales is very good

vagrant steppe
#

Arcanine also has a better movepool, abilities, and whatnot

bleak pine
#

Mostly it just bothers me cause Vulpix was related to Growlithe insofar as version exclusives go, and the two are kinda a pair in some way

vagrant steppe
#

Alolan Ninetales fixes this with typing and movepool

fading stratus
#

and ability

vagrant steppe
#

But regular Ninetales would struggle

bleak pine
#

Yet come GSC, the stat redistributions gave Arcanine some pretty high stats and left Ninetales... just, good Sp.Def

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And not much else

fading stratus
#

regular ninetales would be playable if not for torkoal being better in every aspect except speed

bleak pine
#

It's less competitive stuff and more just, it feels off, is all.

vagrant steppe
#

Honestly ninetales should be retyped to psychic

#

Fire/Psychic would help it a lot

bleak pine
#

I'm kinda alright with it just being a Fire-type

#

It's honestly one of the more unique fire-types out there, given its supernatural power

fading stratus
#

second stab would be decent ig

bleak pine
#

Learns weird moves like Imprison, Will-O-Wisp (not exclusive, but it does learn it naturally compared to other fire-types), Spite, and a few others

vagrant steppe
#

Gamefreak should really retype pokemon more often

#

I mean come on, Luxray

fading stratus
#

dark would make it a lot better

vagrant steppe
#

Honestly

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And it's such a dark type

#

Look at that thing

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This man is dark type

sharp kernel
#

We walled it so hard with h arcanine and tyranitar

#

It was actually embarrassing how little instruct eruption did

fading stratus
#

torkoal is okay

#

trick room in general has a bad matchup against that team

#

especially indeedee armarogue

sharp kernel
#

There’s just very little punish for leading arcanine + tyranitar vs that team

vagrant steppe
#

Wait Pinsir isn't a flying type by default?

sharp kernel
#

Nope pure bug

fading stratus
#

nope

vagrant steppe
#

Yeah that should change too

mighty storm
#

Luxray is fine as pure electric

vagrant steppe
#

Absolutely not

#

Like 75% of Luxray's movepool is dark

bleak pine
#

I mean, it's a Lion

vagrant steppe
#

He'd get a huge buff with Stab crunch

bleak pine
#

So biting things is just something it does well

vagrant steppe
#

And knock off

bleak pine
#

That and blindsiding stuff

sharp kernel
#

Better question tbh is why 95% of electric types have the shittiest move sets imaginable

vagrant steppe
#

Good question

fading stratus
#

hmm

#

is there even a good electric type not named hands

sharp kernel
#

Pre iron hands it was 100% btw

vagrant steppe
#

Regielki

sharp kernel
bleak pine
#

I mean, there's a lot of them

sharp kernel
#

And yeah regieleki

mighty storm
fading stratus
#

eleki is such a weird mon

mighty storm
#

and most those are TMs

sharp kernel
#

But also

bleak pine
#

Like, I just like Pincurchin cause it's just a right bean

sharp kernel
#

Eleki was super pushed with its ability

#

So he kinda doesn’t count

vagrant steppe
#

Also regular Zapdos has seen play multiple times

#

Oh and Tapu Koko

bleak pine
#

But having the Electric Pulse ability makes it a walking battery for mons with the Surge Surfer or Quark Drive abilities

fading stratus
#

koko would be vroken if it comes

vagrant steppe
#

Okay to be a viable electric type you've gotta be a legendary ig

bleak pine
#

Also, it's just like

#

A Sea Urchin, and a bean

mighty storm
#

oh wait, forgot fake tears

bleak pine
#

Come on

#

That's just nice

mighty storm
#

still not a whole lot of dark

sharp kernel
#

I hated all the legendaries from sun and moon, so hopefully they never come back

#

I hated tapus, UB’s everything

#

The regular moms were cool

bleak pine
#

Honestly insofar as legends go, Sun/Moon is conflicting

fading stratus
#

I really really like fini

bleak pine
#

Solgaleo and Lunala are a few outliers, as is Necrozma

vagrant steppe
#

Wow luxray has such an ass movepool

fading stratus
#

scarf soak is such a funny move

vagrant steppe
#

Literally everything it learns via level up

bleak pine
#

But the Island Guardians are just... well, half of them are horrible jerks, and the other half can't be arsed to do too much to help their respective islands

mighty storm
#

wait nope, 6 is with fake tears

bleak pine
#

Well, really, 1/4 is horrible jerk. Tapu Koko just does what it wants, so it's exempt

vagrant steppe
#

Why are almost all of Luxray's tm moves special?

#

We can ignore all of those

#

If you're ever playing special attacking luxray you're doing it wrong

bleak pine
#

Electric just has a lot of special moves

mighty storm
bleak pine
#

Best move is just Wild Charge. Realistically, it's one of the most powerful physical electric moves out there that still remains somewhat widespread

vagrant steppe
#

That leaves Crunch, The Fangs, Wild Charge, Play Rough, Quick Attack, and Fucking Double Kick

fading stratus
#

if it was dark stab snarl with intimidate woulda been good on a reg dex format

vagrant steppe
#

Yeah Luxray needs to become dark type and also get access to moves that don't suck

bleak pine
#

The more powerful physical moves are stuff exclusive to other mons

#

Stuff like Plasma Fists, Double Shock, Volt Tackle, etc.

vagrant steppe
#

Wait he doesn't even get knock off??

fading stratus
#

wild charge is really good on a good mon

mighty storm
#

he doesnt get knock off

bleak pine
#

Wild Charge surprises me, cause a lot of stuff actually learns it

vagrant steppe
#

Oh right, Zerarora should be Electric/Fighting

bleak pine
#

Arcanine can learn it, as can other mons like Stoutland

vagrant steppe
#

There's 0 reason he's not

sharp kernel
#

The type with the coolest movesets are usually ground types btw

sharp kernel
#

Starting with nidoking and nido queen

bleak pine
#

what

vagrant steppe
#

Yeah ground mons get a lot of good moves

mighty storm
#

remember this glitch?

vagrant steppe
#

But yeah gamefreak please fix my boy

vagrant steppe
#

Give him the dark typing he deserves

bleak pine
#

Gen 1 was a time where I think they just sorta said "why not" concerning movesets

#

So much weird moves were accessible to stuff

mighty storm
vagrant steppe
#

And give him knock off and like bulldoze

fading stratus
#

why do we still not have a good 100% accurate physical rock move btw not named ivy cudgel

bleak pine
#

Lapras can learn stuff like Thunderbolt, Dream Eater, Horn Drill, Fissure...

vagrant steppe
#

Like he doesn't even need earthquake

bleak pine
#

And that's just one of many examples

sharp kernel
#

Speaking of bolt

#

I’m telling you

#

Rock pon

#

Is good

bleak pine
#

It's why some later mons felt somewhat restricted concerning movesets

fading stratus
#

if rock had a decent ability y'know maybe but it got the shorter end of the stick overall

bleak pine
#

Meanwhile Nidoqueen and Wigglytuff just keeps getting weirder and weirder with what they can learn

vagrant steppe
#

So yeah, here's how we save electric:
-Luxray gets dark typing and good moves
-Zeroara gets Fighting typing

bleak pine
#

Nonsense!

#

You go big or go home!

vagrant steppe
#

And buff toxtricity ig

mighty storm
#

stone miss

bleak pine
#

80 Accuracy? But that's nonsense, when that one hit can end the match then and there!

sharp kernel
bleak pine
#

I actually really like moves with higher power but lower accuracy, but I definitely will concede that you probably ought to prioritize reliability

vagrant steppe
#

Wait do we still not have a good electric/water type?

bleak pine
#

This is slander against Lanturn

vagrant steppe
#

Oh wait we did but powercreep is insane lmao

#

Rotom-W used to be one of the best mons ever

mighty storm
#

this is slander against lanturn

sharp kernel
#

Yeah lanturn was good

mighty storm
#

and rotom

bleak pine
#

Lanturn best Anglerfish

vagrant steppe
#

And now he and Lando are stuck in the UU waiting room

sharp kernel
#

Rotom w is still solid

vagrant steppe
#

He's just not allowed in this gen is he?

bleak pine
#

Imagine how Venonat feels

sharp kernel
#

He was a staple of early format vgc

mighty storm
#

I want minior back FeelsSadcatMan

bleak pine
#

Legit, Scarlet/Violet is the first time since FRLG you can find one

sharp kernel
#

But it’s hard being a rotom w type Pokémon in a world where bundle/flutter exist

bleak pine
#

Minior nice

#

Copper really likes Minior

sharp kernel
#

Archeops was my guy

fading stratus
bleak pine
#

Lanturn has like a stupid high HP stat

vagrant steppe
bleak pine
#

It's weird, but it's pretty loaded on HP

vagrant steppe
#

Tbf it's been an issue for like the past 2 gens?

#

Well Alola sorta too

bleak pine
#

I imagine someone out there did Wish shenanigans with Lanturn

vagrant steppe
#

But SwSh and SV powercreep was NUTS

mighty storm
#

||at least minior is coming in DLC 2, I really wanna shiny hunt one||

fading stratus
#

alola was balanced in sense everything was crazy slow

vagrant steppe
#

Yeah that helped make Alola not as insane

#

Although the good fast stuff was broken

fading stratus
#

yeah

sharp kernel
#

Alola was just legendary central

vagrant steppe
#

SwSh was "what if every mon was super centralized"

#

And SV was "what if that but also good"

fading stratus
#

although alola gave us cat

vagrant steppe
#

It's crazy how the UB stats went from outliers to "that's what pokemon stats just look like now" in 2 gens

fading stratus
#

idt most alola non legendaries stand out

#

its like ninetales kommo o cat

vagrant steppe
#

There's a few but Alola is legendary city

fading stratus
#

legendaries are crazy in alola

sharp kernel
#

Idt sv regular mons are super unreasonable either

#

Rillaboom was needed

vagrant steppe
#

I mean stuff like Flutter and Iron Bundle happened

sharp kernel
#

Sorry I meant swsh

vagrant steppe
#

I think this gen had a TON of guys that were just super overtuned

#

Yeah SwSh wasn't terrible but there was definitely some noticeable powercreep

sharp kernel
#

Also flutter and bundle are legendaries

vagrant steppe
#

Not technically

sharp kernel
#

We can call it whatever we want, but paradox/treasures are legendaries

vagrant steppe
#

But even for non-legendaries in SV the powercreep was wild

sharp kernel
#

Just like UB/tapus are legendaries

fading stratus
#

rilaboom corviknight grimmsnarl dracovish hatterene indeedee dragapult

sharp kernel
#

Like I said, none of that was super unreasonable, dragapult you could argue was overcentralizing

vagrant steppe
#

Stuff like Gholdengho, Clodsire, Cyclizar (even post shed tail ban), Garganacl, Houndstone (banned day 1), Kinggambit, Pawmot (move banned day 1), Skeledirge, and way more were fucking WACK from SV

sharp kernel
#

But all croviknight has done since release is fall in play rate

vagrant steppe
#

I think the past 2 gens have really pushed powercreep way more than previous gens

fading stratus
#

dracovish was brazy

vagrant steppe
#

Oh right Dracovish was SUPER centralizing

#

Oh I forgot about Ursaluna too

fading stratus
#

yeah that was gen 8

vagrant steppe
#

Yeah, past 2 gens have been WACKY for powercreep

sharp kernel
#

People doomed ursaluna just for it to be alright

#

Then they were like “let’s make better ursaluna”

#

And released blood moon

vagrant steppe
#

I mean blood moon is kind of an insane mon

#

I'm sure I'm forgetting more crazy mons from Gen 9

#

But I also excluded paradoxes for my point

fading stratus
#

you even forgot palafin

vagrant steppe
#

If you add in stuff like Iron Valiant, Flutter Mane, Iron Bundle, and Great Tusk the list of ridiculously overtuned gen-9 mons is WILD

sharp kernel
#

Also what I love about Gen 9 so far is the balance changes to some mons

vagrant steppe
#

Oh right, Palafin

#

Yeah that's another "banned near instantly" that also just centralized the game

sharp kernel
#

Taking away knock off and other utility moves from mons has helped the watchability of comp Pokémon a lot imo

vagrant steppe
#

This is all singles btw and I'm well aware that doubles is equally as fucked rn

fading stratus
#

doubles and singles have had mostly same vroken mons this gen for better part of the year before home

#

except like valiant

#

like half of doubles top usages are all singles banned mons

vagrant steppe
#

Lmao that's boring as hell

fading stratus
#

its not really
they do different stuff

vagrant steppe
#

Feel like pure shit

#

Just want weather wars back

fading stratus
#

doubles is at somewhat weather wars rn

vagrant steppe
#

Is it?

warm sky
#

Ice be good
Ttar is back

fading stratus
#

its mostly tornadus

vagrant steppe
#

Oh shit

fading stratus
#

setting up sun or rain

warm sky
#

Tornadus setting up rain/sun

#

Ye

fading stratus
#

and tr is decent so torkoal

pseudo goblet
#

Just btw, no Liko’s father and mother is not Ash or Serena pensivecowboybread

fading stratus
#

I like dawn more smh

warm sky
#

Dawn literally has Kenny

pseudo goblet
warm sky
#

As her intended romantic interest

fading stratus
#

Kenny is just lenny 2.0 aka upto no good

#

also I like dawn more

sand forge
vagrant steppe
sand forge
#

Why does Bulbapedia consider it one then

vagrant steppe
#

It's technically one

#

The games code legendaries but don't give them the flag

sand forge
#

I like it more in concept than in design

#

Artificial Arceus is sick

vagrant steppe
#

Same

mighty storm
#

I love how silvally confirmed how to say Arceus

#

"Arr-kay-ess"

sand forge
#

Greg House says Ar-see-us

#

so I follow that pronunciation

long stone
#

arkoos

tacit sphinx
#

First of all I feel fucking terrible for Articuno

bleak pine
#

There's that too

#

I'm glad they drew the line with Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan though

#

Their stats would have been terrible, but they gave them very good Sp.Def, a very high stat to have among fighting types

mighty storm
#

khu is hinting at some kind of pokemon that ||bears resemblance to a gen 7 mon?! 👀 ||

mighty storm
#

||A regional variant or Coincidencemon that looks like minior?|| hallothink

pseudo goblet
mighty storm
#

ooh

pseudo goblet
#

I can see ||Dokutaro, being true to its Momotaro origin, use some kind of ball shaped/seed shaped poison and mind control animals||

mighty storm
#

Ads advertising a game Im 3/4th of the way into through a walkthrough

fading stratus
#

lmao

short heath
#

Pokedoku

#

||Anyone care to explain why Alolan Geodude trio doesn't count||

fading stratus
#

its rock

#

oh yeah i forgor to post mine

#

||minior is a godsend in any stuff like this||

pseudo goblet
#

Ice cube gatito fluff

fading stratus
tacit sphinx
#

I got 139 on Pokedoku

#

Looks like everyone here knows better tricks than me

#

I think this is a pretty good score for ||no alt forms||

#

Thought I was being super clever with ||Type: Null||

fading stratus
#

that was defo clever

#

but ||dynamax||

tacit sphinx
#

Yeah I’m a bit annoyed that it counts as separate

fading stratus
#

||minior has 16 forms or something||

#

||so its always under 1||

tacit sphinx
#

Real talk how did 10% get fuckin ||Trumbeak||

#

I only remembered it existed using Bulbapedia

fading stratus
#

lmao

#

||reg bird||

tacit sphinx
#

Yeah but like in ||New Pokemon Snap|| you only see ||Pikipek and Toucannon||

#

So I genuinely forgot it was ||three stage||

fading stratus
#

ah

tacit sphinx
#

Also somewhat surprised for the 9% on ||Lugia|| but I guess there’s a lot of competition

#

Honestly I feel like in hindsight if I was using ||alts|| I’d pick a ||Mega Lati||

fading stratus
#

that probably is one of the lowest

#

if not the lowest

#

since you already have 2

tacit sphinx
#

Oh actually

#

What’s the fucking stupid one

#

||Calyrex||

fading stratus
#

that'd be an option too yeah

tacit sphinx
#

Wouldn’t be the lowest but if you were avoiding ||forms|| that one is forgettable

#

Wait Bolt I saw yours how is ||Wattrel|| higher than ||Thunderus|| lmao

fading stratus
#

middle gen mons are very forgettable

#

noone chooses them

mighty storm
#

||it didnt count iron valiant as legendary cheems || my pokedoku

fading stratus
#

||iron valiant isn't electric..........||

warm sky
short heath
#

Still peeved that ultra beasts are legendary

warm sky
#

Yeah that's a fucking lie

random stream
slim bough
#

Just need to evolve a Finizen. Union circle code is KR4880

fading stratus
warm sky
#

It happens

vagrant steppe
#

Lowest for the day?

#

Oh nah y'all know all the tricks

fading stratus
#

||bulu doomed you||

#

because I think most of us have ~1% there

#

||also dartix over minior||

maiden flax
#

By .1%

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
#

ooo paldean winds ep 2?

#

peak meowscarada moment

#

||"It can't win in battle" "Neither can you" KEKW ||

#

cool episode

#

only 11 mins is kinda short but whatever

fading stratus
#

kool aid

mighty storm
fading stratus
#

no idea about that

mighty storm
#

guess it doesnt count paradoxes for the bottom row?

fading stratus
#

lemme check rq

#

wow not counting paradoxes but counting ultra beasts

#

racism

#

iron leaves is counted

#

probably walking wake too

#

but not others

#

idk how they're legendrier than other

mighty storm
#

tested scream tail, doesnt work

fading stratus
#

I tested others yeah

#

just iron leaves works

#

no section for walking wake so cant test

mighty storm
#

yeah

fading stratus
#

pokedoku just have weird way of categorizing things

#

idk why

#

like how are ultra beast more legendary than paradoxes or how are some paradoxes more legendary than others

#

well koraidon and miraidon are exceptions but still

sand forge
#

Bro

#

||Zygarde Complete is an Alolan mon||

obsidian juniper
fading stratus
#

they consider gmax butterfree to be a kanto mon so why not

warm sky
sand forge
warm sky
#

Unless it's pokedoku being bullshit again

sand forge
#

I know it doesn't - I'm malding

warm sky
#

Ah

#

Then yeah

fading stratus
#

they need to be more consistent with what they do

sand forge
#

Broooooo

fading stratus
sand forge
#

216 with a fail is incredible

#

2 1% mons bro

fading stratus
#

216 with fail is okay

sand forge
#

wtf

#

Rip the coinflip though

pseudo goblet
#

Probably my best score yet? also at this point im just abusing the poor sorting of the legendary/mythical/ultra beast lmao

spice rivet
#

I think in total, this took me 26 days

pseudo goblet
spice rivet
#

Oof, thats unfortunate

pseudo goblet
#

||cant get spoof to work||

spice rivet
#

Ahh

fading stratus
mighty storm
#

which is why my speculation is on ||minior ||

long stone
#

||i think he hinting at ultra burst like thing.||

fading stratus
#

||nekrozma taking and leaving solgaleo/lunala probably can be considered opening up idk||

long stone
#

||i mean the act of doing so is called an ultra burst... so like it bursts open||

mighty storm
#

||Could you imagine a coincidence mon based off Minior that is a fruit, that would be so cool||

long stone
#

||we are also dealing with a seed... core....||

mighty storm
long stone
#

still don't think it's that simple

outer eagle
#

now that i think about it, beating a mon within an inch of fainting and forcing it to keep crying for help is morally questionable to say the least Hahaa

mighty storm
#

||Unless it means dokutaro is gonna fuse with terapagos||

long stone
mighty storm
#

maybe

mighty storm
#

@pseudo goblet you available for some trades real quick?

ashen barn
#

This is nutsKEKW
Eruption at Charizard' speed was dangerous enough, this is plainly overkill, I can use specs on this

#

they gave it nasty plot as well

golden lance
#

Is Geeta anyone's favorite champion?

#

Genuine question

spice rivet
# golden lance Is Geeta anyone's favorite champion?

Honestly, I do like the aspect of other characters talking about her like an overbearing boss. Especially with that interaction with Penny after clearing the final story.

She's def not my fav, but its a nice wrinkle to her character.

mighty storm
#

anyone available to help me with some trade evos?

#

Mons I have left to get for dlc dex: Leavanny, Politoed, Aipom line, trevenent, golem, conkeldur, morpeko, munchlax, snorlax, duskull, dusknoir, chimecho, litwick, milotic, loyal 3

#

some of these I could probably get done by digging around other files

#

yeah a bunch of them

pseudo goblet
mighty storm
#

hold lemme make a new list of what I need

pseudo goblet
#

So like, two of them?

mighty storm
#

leavanny, politoed, golem, chimecho, litwick, loyal 3

#

2 trade evos yeah

#

but I dont have a poliwhirl at the moment

golden lance
#

@sharp kernel do you think gen 6/7 vgc seasons would be better if primal groudon/kyogre took your mega slot for the round?

mighty storm
#

so just help with the golem for now

pseudo goblet
mighty storm
#

oh ok

#

well time to stuff the bell and bug friendship berries

sharp kernel
#

I think Gen 8 and Gen 9 so far have been pretty damn good

pseudo goblet
mighty storm
#

actually nah, there is easy chimecho in PLA. Bug evolved now

mighty storm
pseudo goblet
#

Oh, that thing gives more shard right

mighty storm
#

yep

#

oh has to be night time for chimecho evo

#

so the chingling I have probably does have enough friendship, just gotta wait for night time

#

or ya know, catch the one that just ran into me

#

another one down

pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
mighty storm
#

6 left to catch, and litwick spawns very close to me

pseudo goblet
mighty storm
#

so all that is left is golem, politoed, and the loyal 3

#

golem found as an alpha in PLA, now to transfer it

mighty storm
#

alright 4 left, and new Poliwhirl (with a kingrock) obtained

mighty storm
#

Politoed obtained, the last 3 are in sights!

#

They will be obtained soon!

#

1 down (Monkey), 2 to go

mighty storm
#

doggo being annoying to catch, taking a break for the day

#

@pseudo goblet ||apparently this leak is related to dippliin evo||

#

free herba code

kind vortex
#

runs almost a whole year lol

bleak pine
#

Saguaro

#

I wonder if anyone's actually depending on this mystery gift just to meet up with that request from Mr. Saguaro.

mighty storm
#

request?

bleak pine
#

He would like for you to bring him a Sweet Herba Mystica

#

I think it's pretty frustrating since you're not guaranteed those things, so many might not have done it yet

mighty storm
#

ah

pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
#

That mf is pretty much like, top 30 most likely to destroy the world he’s in

mighty storm