Probably, they usually do reveals on Sunday iirc
#Pokemon
sharp kernel
crimson moat
10 hours
Said 9 and a half hours ago
mighty storm
kind vortex
the perfect distillation of nemona's character
sharp kernel
Come watch vgc worlds son @flat sedge
flat sedge
Nah, I'll probs catch some videos on it or whatever after though
pseudo goblet
https://twitter.com/pokemonmasters/status/1689450727050248192?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGC...
I like to think Pawmot is here begging with Nemona, Or thinking to himself ‘buddy either you give her the suit or I forcefully take off yours’ lmao
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Come watch vgc worlds son <@358795928389419018>
i have just woken up what round rnn
"we're trying to bring you round 1 very very soon"
the stream started one and a half hours ago
mighty storm
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@sharp kernel join me 
mighty storm
It's time
3 phases into the hunt, with two green apples to my name. Phase 4! Can I obtain a third shiny Applin
mighty storm
yup thats what Im going for
sharp kernel
<@304354673647812608> join me <:PauseChamp:683182130624331878>
Bro how hasn’t this started yet
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yeah it's been 10 mins since they announced that arash vs naoto would be feature
actually 10 mins lmao
mighty storm
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my favourite type malice type
mighty storm
phantom type tho
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thus us literally a mirror except the ruin mon
sharp kernel
Lando is cope
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its not
sharp kernel
I’ll take every other force of nature over lando rn
sharp kernel
Lando only outperforms expectations in rain teams
viral ingot
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Lando only outperforms expectations in rain teams
lando i is cope i'll tell you that much
if you mean sandshear storm turbo
sharp kernel
Oh yeah I’m not talking about lando i, that shit is terrible
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safety googles urshifu based
sharp kernel
Any word on what Wolfey is running yet?
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probably some off brand pick
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is lando scarf is the big question\
sharp kernel
Twitter
bleak pine
Much as I like bringing out the best of my mons in a lot of games I just don't really enjoy battling
sharp kernel
The new video is writing itself
bleak pine
Most times I'm just content to keep training, but without much yearning to do some VS stuff
sharp kernel
Helmet is good
bleak pine
Y'know, Knock Off just had the worst kind of showing when it comes to moves
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I was thinking helmet could be in lando but amoongus is good too
bleak pine
It only ever had 20 power in RSE, but in XY it got adjusted to 65, and doubles in strength if it does disarm something
...And once XY hit, so few things began learning knock off
In fact I think some mons just wound up never learning it
sharp kernel
Amoongus just feels kinda nuts vs these 2 specific comps tbh
bleak pine
It's like it was evident it was stupid good, so they went and made it so very few mons could naturally learn it
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amoongus in general is nuts
bleak pine
About the one mon I know that for sure learns it isn't even a Dark-type, and it's Makuhita
What does Sumo have to do with forcibily disarming?
sharp kernel
Like I feel as if these 2 comps are very much “safe” choices
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also he isn't playing sacred sword in chien pao huh\
yooooo
idk if that says about how broken mane is or how bulky hands is
mighty storm
nothing on phase 4, will do phase 5 tomorrow
pseudo goblet
Larvitar is technically-honorary bug type imo
Doesn’t have a solid reason like Drapion does, just how I feel
mighty storm
cute
pseudo goblet
the reason for Larvitar to be a bug is it has larva in it's name
Yes lmao
Other languages doesn’t have the larva thing, it’s just calling Larvitar ‘baby’ or young
pseudo goblet
Larvitar is technically-honorary bug type imo
So this statement was kinda for English only 😔
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Larvitar is technically-honorary bug type imo
Also I somehow read this as Larvitar is a horny bug type
pseudo goblet
But like, Iron Thorns learn Pin Missile 
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iron thorns also learns rock blast
mighty storm
alright what he tweet now
huh
OH
@pseudo goblet ||the convergent mon getting leaked||
||the convergent mon is purple to green, Austin John got a teal mask "tea set".||
pseudo goblet
||the convergent mon is purple to green, Austin John got a teal mask "tea set".|...
Oh fuck 
Okay there’s three Galar Pokémon getting new forms in DLC, the hell lol
pseudo goblet
||the convergent mon is purple to green, Austin John got a teal mask "tea set".|...
We guessing ||Polteageist|| right
pseudo goblet
Pretty sure that’s for Matcha
Ayo Pokemon, don’t take my Meowscarada’s shtick lmao
mighty storm
Pretty sure that’s for Matcha
||yes, what color is matcha||
pseudo goblet
||yes, what color is matcha||
I’m literally eating Matcha snacks next to my office desk rn lol
mighty storm
||so a green matcha sinistea convergent species? Note the box says 8/22 so maybe thats when we will get news||
pseudo goblet
I’m literally eating Matcha snacks next to my office desk rn lol
Doesn’t really look that pretty btw
bleak pine
I mean, it looks gross, it might taste good
pseudo goblet
I mean, it looks gross, it might taste good
Doesn’t really matter to me when I lost my taste sense lmao
Luckily I can still taste bitter, and matcha is pretty famous for it huh
@mighty storm I like to have opinion on this, should I go my way and bring my past games shinies and my league teams to Scarlet? 
Or keep in them in the games i found them in and save the HOME money lol
mighty storm
wait for dlc 2 update
then transfer
assuming like some of the shinies are in dlc 2 (or 1)
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@sharp kernel round 2 and we've seen some cool techs
charm flutter mane or ice beam cresellia
pseudo goblet
assuming like some of the shinies are in dlc 2 (or 1)
I was about to say, we only just saw Beldum in the trailers right lol
mighty storm
yup
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so are you implying Paldean Metagross
mighty storm
you know what I want
convergent species for eevee
and all the eeveelutions get physical type counterparts
sharp kernel
Yeah but running back 6 straights wins vs all quality opponents is rough
I’m curious to see what his meta calls were
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there are a lot of good players who go 6-0 day 1
mighty storm
for instance a "jolteon" that is fighting type
random stream
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last year 4 players went 6-0 day 1
sharp kernel
Im not saying it’s impossible, but that’s still rough
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there's also an argument that x-2 means you'll play less good players
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Im not saying it’s impossible, but that’s still rough
it defo is rough but doable
sharp kernel
Is x-3 100% out?
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ye
if you win 6 games you go day 2
you don't play extra rounds
you play 8 rounds max
sharp kernel
Wait didn’t they say today was only 7 rounds?
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did they?
8 rounds has been how world's worked idk if they changed this time
sharp kernel
I’m pretty sure
At the beginning of the broadcast they said today was only 7 rounds
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so does that mean 5 wins for day 2?
sharp kernel
Probably
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or maybe they said 7 rounds day 2?
sharp kernel
So close to cresselia sweep
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it was closer than i expected
pseudo goblet
assuming like some of the shinies are in dlc 2 (or 1)
Also… Zubat only up to Legends… and Wimpod only up to SwSh 
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talking about wimpod Golisopod got top 32 in world's last time 
pseudo goblet
Floette(might be Flabebe) is in SV luckily
Grubbin only up to SwSh- DAMN IT
Why cant my UltraSun shinies be together 
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so 7 rounds huh
random stream
pseudo goblet
tacit sphinx
So like
The fuck does GSC rentals look like
Okay like this is Lax’s set
It’s like… Firelax but shit
No Rest + no Leftovers = Snorlax joever?
tacit sphinx
curselax is good
Curselax is good because you can’t chip away at it
Like I still think Lax will be good in this but
Lmao holy fucking shit
Wanna see a Pokemon get slaughtered
Poor fucking Raikou
This format is fucking cursed.
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you made me wanna play stadium after years
outer eagle
had to wake up real early for this one
but hey i only missed 2 rounds
tacit sphinx
hmm yes a normal zapdos
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best mon raz
outer eagle
even in meme format Furret still looks mediocore 
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Now that was a worlds winning team right there bolt
water tera adaptability basculegion fucks
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wait are they trying to ban kingambit now
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how do you get the eligiblity to vote btw
sleek sky
You make an alt
And hit a certain win percentage on ladder, basically
It's a little more complicated than that
But basically you gotta win enough on a fresh alt
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caster battle is more interesting than worlds smh
bleak pine
Okay like this is Lax’s set
You never know when your opponent's gonna try the legendary Spite strat!
Watch in terror as Dunsparce just sucks all that PowerPoints out from Snorlax!
outer eagle
only 7 rounds day 1 huh
fading stratus
ye
you need 5 wins
idk why they reduced the rounds to 7
5 wins does mean wolfe has more chance to qualify day 2 ig
outer eagle
how many players does day 1 have
outer eagle
damn that doesn't look good
outer eagle
do all x-2s qualify or are there tiebreakers?
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all
well that how it used to be last years iirc idk this year
oh luca paz also died
also naoto
spice rivet
Yeesh
kind vortex
fucking rip
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wolfe doing the comeback tho
kind vortex
dropping both james baek and ashton cox
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most likely, yeah
kind vortex
also in another news brambleghast made day 2
i remember people were calling brambleghast being a good meta pick for this
cna't remember if it was wolfe, neil, both, or someone else
spice rivet
cna't remember if it was wolfe, neil, both, or someone else
Wolfe made a vid on it
kind vortex
i remember watching the video, couldn't remember if it was wolfe or neil mainly
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There are a few other niche picks too like brambleghast wonder if any of them are in day 2
spice rivet
I cant believe I saw Articuno Abamasnow make day 2
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like steely spirit perrserker or dazzling forgot the name of the ugly fish
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TELL ME ITS BRIGHT POWDER ARTICUNO
spice rivet
It is
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MONKA
outer eagle
Bright Powder with Sheer Cold 
spice rivet
All the memes
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was it water tera btw
spice rivet
I think it was Ghost Tera. Never Terad here
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galarian articuno better tho
spice rivet
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r7 is against the this year's hartford reg champion
Oh Shiliang knocked out wolfe in hartford and Wolfe knocked out Shiliang in Orlando regionals lmao
outer eagle
Wolfe on feature as expected
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reg c team
kind vortex
wolfe just got bailed out
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shiliang played very well tho
kind vortex
up until full para it was all shiliang lol
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yeah
kind vortex
wolfe threw
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yeah
outer eagle
perfectly balanced ig
kind vortex
it's joever
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well that was a game of all time
outer eagle
Joewari Da
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@sharp kernel your fav H arcanine knocked out wolfe in the last set of the last round 
outer eagle
man's pretty relaxed in the interview, must not be his first rodeo
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supposedly only started competing last year too
everyone from wolfe's testing team got knocked out too iirc
outer eagle
as in the ones from his last vid?
outer eagle
sharp kernel
<@304354673647812608> your fav H arcanine knocked out wolfe in the last set of t...
Just saw it and wow I hate wolfey’s team
Like idk how that’s what you come up with for reg D
That’s just a reg C team
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it is what it is ig
pseudo goblet
YO WTF DID I DISCOVER THIS JUST NOW!!! 
Took him long enough
Same for me, this has been out for 13 days and I’m so late 😅
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good ole pellek
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this good
random stream
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sleek sky
thanks for the code
outer eagle
that's a lot of JP players 
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gotta make it up for ygo
mighty storm
copy paste why you screenshot my discord instead of what I copied 
First episode of Path to the Peak is out
No subtitles
😦
rubber bands SO TRUE
ok that was pretty good
sharp kernel
that's a lot of JP players <:monkaGIGA:652734094664269835>
From What I've seen, a lot of JP players are playing "safe" comps, and tbh the results show
no need to innovate when just playing the strongest pokemon can get you through
It will be tricky come elimination rounds though
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https://www.reddit.com/r/VGC/comments/15o6vzi/dqs_for_genned_mons/
Holy they actually did it
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From What I've seen, a lot of JP players are playing "safe" comps, and tbh the r...
there's like 7 rounds of swiss before eliminations tomorrow as well
unless they change that too this year
sharp kernel
We will see
outer eagle
what happens when they get traded a mon that was genned tho
sharp kernel
you're responsible for knowing it was genned
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yeah
outer eagle
if anything this will push the hacking community to make their genners more legit
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i see that as a win win
outer eagle
idk about this tbh
rich players can just pay others to farm mons for them
the rest are just stuck grinding
sharp kernel
well tbf, the process is way easier this gen than even last gen
in terms of actually grinding comp pokemon
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stuff like bottle caps make it a lot easier
sharp kernel
is it tedious? yes
but is it doable? yes
I'm working on like 18 different mons at the moment
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if you have a friendgroup of 5-6 people it shouldn't be that hard
outer eagle
if you have a friendgroup of 5-6 people it shouldn't be that hard
you lost me at "friend"
sharp kernel
and tbh the hardest part is EV spreads, making perfect IV pokemon is the easy part
outer eagle
did they introduce a way to make 0 IV mons
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also like if you're willing to spend money and time to attend events/go to japan its your own fault for nit bringing legit shit
outer eagle
cuz i remember that being missing in SwSh
sharp kernel
well yeah 0 iv is hard. that's really it though
outer eagle
wasn't there a rumor floating around awhile ago of GF planning some kind of official mon modifying tool or something
twin shard
Hol up, Yuta Takahashi as in mtg’s banned player of the year yuta or is it a coincidence?
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heard there was supposed to be a iv reset item in dlc
outer eagle
snuffing out competition
sharp kernel
they look to be 2 different yuta's
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Hol up, Yuta Takahashi as in mtg’s banned player of the year yuta or is it a coi...
man's gotta do what you gotta do
if you can't compete in mtg just compete in pokemon
outer eagle
just be skilled in both ez
sharp kernel
that is easy, I'm living proof
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their bio only says Go SV Unite so unless they removed mtg from their bio its not the mtg player
also Thugs I'm dreading GS Cup format
Flutter speed tie already makes it such a weird dynamic
but come gs cup format we'd also have koraidon and miraidon with same base speed
pair chien pao and you could have 4 mons with same speed on the field
outer eagle
Bundle stonks rising
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bundle actually dropped super hard
outer eagle
well yeah Shifu right
outer eagle
once more mons with competitive speed creep comes the 1 extra point matters a lot more
especially since the 2 boxarts are weak to Bundle
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korai is neutral
outer eagle
isn't Korai Dragon Fighting
outer eagle
ability wise it should be
the fact that it's Dragon/Fighting is one of the biggest reasons why it's not as good as Miraidon in Singles rn
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because mane morbs?
outer eagle
Mane is w/e it's not really that popular in Ubers, it's just Miraidon has bonkers power
yep click Specs Electro Drift
shut loom
Recieved Psychic damage today when I saw a video and someone said ORAS is almost a decade old. I am here to share the pain.
outer eagle
or Specs Volt Switch
shut loom
outer eagle
X/Y players
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it makes me feel old too eventhough i'm just 20
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yep click Specs Electro Drift
ah
what does mane do in singles btw?
still speed booster?\
outer eagle
either Sun or Booster or Specs
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or is booster bad because of too much switching
outer eagle
Booster is fine, but 1v1 is way less likely to sweep immediately
so Specs is also popular, and Sun teams are around with it on those
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ah
also talking about legendaries i was looking at palkia origin and why does it have 120 speed
shoulda given the 20 to defenses or sth
outer eagle
oh god no
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palkia having 100 base speed makes it have a god speed tier
which is usable in all forms of speed control
outer eagle
Palkia having 100 Speed has always been an outlier ngl
every other boxarts up until that point and even most after that had 90-95 Speed
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xerneas has 99
outer eagle
well yeah gen 6 is when powercreep started accelerating a lot imo
or maybe it's gen 5
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also lugia apparently has 110 speed but i've never used it so didn't know
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suicune has less speed i think than 90 too
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in doubles where you can only play 2 restricted you really would use something else than lugia too
Suicune is a great support mon
outer eagle
haven't played Suicune ever so i won't be able to know
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It's actually a tailwind setter in doubles believe it or not
outer eagle
does it learn Haze
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don't think so
outer eagle
every time i see a bulky Water i immediately ask "does it learn Haze" for some reason
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it learned scald rest of the moves you'd play are like tailwind, snarl, roar, icy wind, sub, helping hand
and ice beam sometimes
a really decent support mon
outer eagle
it hits like a wet noodle so Ice Beam is surprising to me
fading stratus
eh its a coverage depending on the format
most cresellia were on ice beam today just because lan t is so threatening
outer eagle
just checked Ubers usage stats and lmao Ting-Lu and Dirge have higher use than Mane
what being able to counter Miraidon does to mfs
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best thing about suicune was honestly it's not a restricted
outer eagle
well not "counter" ig, more like "emergency check"
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yeah but i get the idea
outer eagle
does Suicune count as a non-legendary non-mythical?
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its not a restrictes, yes
outer eagle
interesting
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suicune is technically a legendary but restricted are technically mostly box art legendaries
although suicune is the art of crystal
in theory you could have a team of 6 legendaries and be legal
like say thun lando heatran 2 restricted and suicune
outer eagle
4 genies team 
sharp kernel
Pinging myself on this, I can skip breeding my gastrodon @sharp kernel
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4 genies team <:copium:901139245056528444>
common shared weakness is 
bleak pine
...Admittedly I think the whole thing with refering them to as genies is a little misleading, since they are based on some deities in Japanese folklore
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and torn and thun are frail than a piece of paper
bleak pine
But then again, the Reveal Glass exists, which I think is based on one of many vessels genies can be entraped in...?
outer eagle
common shared weakness is <:Hahaa:642861303387521034>
my opponents will all miss Rock Slide trust
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...Admittedly I think the whole thing with refering them to as genies is a littl...
oh are they? no idea
i just call them genies because they look like genies
bleak pine
Yeah, like, Tornadus and Thundrus are based on Fuijin and Raijin, the gods of winds and lightning respectively
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my opponents will all miss Rock Slide trust
no like every torn on stream got otk'd by tera fairy dazzle i think
bleak pine
That tail they got even looks like their items they use to call up storms; a bag of winds, and a set of drums
outer eagle
Landorus is based on Tiger King
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wanghu
bleak pine
I got no idea what Enamorus is based on though
outer eagle
ur mom
bleak pine
Though, their Therian formes go a different approach, based on the four gods
Going off what I know, Tornadus is Suzaku (no not ours), the Vermillion Bird, Thundrus is Ryu-jin, the blue dragon, Landorus is Bya-ko, the white tiger, and Enamorus is Gin-bu, the black tortoise
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oh yeah btw ryu wanna hear about the weirdest set today
outer eagle
i mean i have free time so sure
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Assault Vest Chien Pao
outer eagle
that's not that weird
bleak pine
Having Tornadus and Thundrus stir up trouble in Unova at first was admittedly a bit weird
outer eagle
i've seen AV Mane b4
bleak pine
So, something like them just, stiring up trouble... in what you can sum up as Queens, NY
bleak pine
Breloom doing the punchy against a snow leopard with swords as teeth
outer eagle
well yeah but surviving a crucial hit is the important factor
bleak pine
Breloon is just funny
bleak pine
Goes from a stubby mushroom person, to a boxing kangaroo-mushroom boxer that can just floor near anything with a single punch
130 base atk baybeeee
outer eagle
not allowing Mane to yep click Dazzle is probably good tbf
and emergency surviving a Moonblast
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they were only on AV because sash gotta go to breloom
but that does make a case for bulkier pao tho
outer eagle
Breloom lacks the speed so it's under more pressure usually so i understnad
it needs Sash more than Pao
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we've had lefties chi yu win regs
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Breloom lacks the speed so it's under more pressure usually so i understnad
also like spore bonkers
outer eagle
wonder what Amogus' usage stat is at Worlds
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wonder what Amogus' usage stat is at Worlds
they only said about flutter
which was 75ish% i think
in day 1
outer eagle
Even Lando at its peak was only 65% iirc
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arcanine at its peak got 90 i think
mighty storm
weird future lizard has 19 minutes left to find a green apple today 
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not 90 80
kind vortex
is that just kantonian arcanine or does it include hisuian?
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kantonian it's 2017 reg dex format
kind vortex
oh ok
outer eagle
was it like the only Intimidate user with Fake Out
outer eagle
ironic considering weaker formats usually lead to higher diversity
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it was the best intimidate user
mighty storm
me, the apples, and a weird future lizard hunting applins at 10:11 AM
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also pinch berries recovered 50% hp so bulky arcanine was actually really good
and being fire type means you resist all tapu fairy stab
outer eagle
ah yeah i remember some Gluttony Pinch Berries stuffs going around back then
mighty storm
10 minutes to go 🙏
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for?
mighty storm
for phase 5 of my applin hunt
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oh
mighty storm
YES
with 1 minute left
@pseudo goblet GOT THE THIRD APPLIN
and with a sweet and sour apple already in my bag, time to evolve them
mighty storm
thats what I was thinking, smaller then expected
outer eagle
it's an apple 
sharp kernel
you're an apple
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no, you
mighty storm
appletun is like a bulbasaur sized pokemon
bleak pine
Yeah it's kinda jarring how small Appletun is
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appletun is like a bulbasaur sized pokemon
liar
bulbasaur
appletun
bulbasaur is bigger than i thought
bleak pine
holy shit
mighty storm
huh, bulbasaur is slightly bigger then I expected
but yeah appletun is a small but fat fren
question is, who do I hunt next?
mighty storm
shiny appletun summer
I already have a shiny for all 3
mighty storm
you can get shiny palkia in swsh
and like, usum
but 3DS broken sooo no USUM for me
I could go for lechonk
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hunt for shiny blaze breed tauros
mighty storm
shinies that is hard to spot and are aggressive , I think not
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shiny antique sinistea
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shiny family of 3
mighty storm
did get lucky last time with two shiny venomoths when I went for slither wing
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both are worse
mighty storm
Slither Wing > OG Volcarona > Iron Moth
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but i like all 3 tbh
mighty storm
@pseudo goblet I just thought of something
||If there is a "Rfake" of sinistea, will it also have an authentic version 
||
mighty storm
bleak pine
Cow
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that is no cow
that is my sleep paralysis demon
kind vortex
to be fair, back in my childhood, i felt far more threatened by that cow than by that dragon
bleak pine
Is it weird that I didn't have a horrifying experience with that cow?
fading stratus
maybe you didn't play the gen 2 games
bleak pine
I owned Gold, but I was stupid and didn't ever do much with it
It wasn't until Soulsilver that I played again, and challening Whitney wasn't really that exciting for me
fading stratus
ah
bleak pine
I think it was owing to me having more experience other than sticking to a starter and literally nothing else, plus I guess Onix
I played Crystal though, through and through, and I ended up having a Heracross when I challenged her again.
I'm a little disappointed in myself, because I just sorta picked Fury Cutter again and again for a win
Speaking of Fury cutter, I'm debating how good it does in Tera Raid battles
Is there a max limit to how powerful it can get?
kind vortex
with better game knowledge and not being a completely terrible player nowadays i'm confident base game whitney wouldn't be a threat to me
but back then she was horrifying
bleak pine
For most of us, yeah, it was likely us being a complete newbie in most cases
kind vortex
as for fury cutter, it can miss
bleak pine
But GSC generally just didn't have much options for this, aside from some picks like Geodude or Onix
kind vortex
you'd have to run wide lens or use a compoundeyes mon for consistency
bleak pine
Ahhh, gotcha
Would be cool, but the effort might not be worth the payoff to make it completely accurate
kind vortex
and in the context of tera raids, probably not the greatest, though you might be able to make it work in 5* raids
bleak pine
I'd imagine Scizor could make it work, but that's a big maybe
kind vortex
if you're doing solo raids, probably better just to run some setup specialists who can take hits and heal them off
annihilape, slowbro, shell bell chi yu in certain raids, all of those have worked for me
don't need to go tot hat extent if you're doing like 3 or 4 * raids
bleak pine
Slowbro is just fantastic in raids, and it's just so dumb that it's amazing
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or you can even do stuff like setup ceruledge
bleak pine
Yeah, a lot of mons with HP absorbing moves work wonders
kind vortex
way back in ye olde days i used bd azu for the zard raid, was pretty inconsistent, but it could work
i probably wouldn't recommend it nowadays
bleak pine
I remember Yoz having Dachbun, and me using Grimmsnarl for that one. It was super nice
Moves that deal damage and lower stats I still remember working well, since they ignore the barrier preventing status moves from working
It may not last, but it helps. Still gotta find a way to work in Mud-Slap in a moveset someway
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wo chien in stream
bleak pine
There's really not a lot of variety, is there?
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nope
bleak pine
I mean, it works, of course, but... bleh.
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its basically genies flutter mane urshifu rilaboom the runes heatran
and amoongus
bleak pine
So wait, remind me why Amoongus is used over like, Breloom?
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breloom too frail
bleak pine
Is it due to it playing a more defensive role, whereas Breloom just uses Spore to make more pushes on offense?
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worst typing
bleak pine
No denying that getting socked by a Focus Punch from Breloom just hurts
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also not fast enough to warrant using it offrnsively
bleak pine
It's weird, cause Breloom has like, a bunch of stuff to go on defense
Poison Heal is a thing isn't it?
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poison heal exists but like you're really not playing anything that isn't sash on it
dies from gust
also technician good
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dazzling
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yes dazzling
tacit sphinx
What mon has an amazing ability it absolutely cannot benefit from
Which one is Dazzling?
tacit sphinx
I literally do not remember Bruxish
tacit sphinx
dazzling prevents any priority moves from opponents
So it’s like Farigiraf’s Armour Tail?
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last gen
it's ability steely spirit basically gives steel stab to you and your allies
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Klawf also has anger shell
tacit sphinx
Oh you know what
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Brambleghast's wind rider is also good
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tangling hair is okay too, yeah
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also adaptability on porygon z\
tacit sphinx
also adaptability on porygon z\
But
OHKO Hyper Beam
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its like not even that amazing sp atk to ohko something that resists
tacit sphinx
But it’s funny
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there's also beast boost on guzzlord
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you get +1 on your highest stat
tacit sphinx
What does Guzzlord even do
tacit sphinx
you get +1 on your highest stat
No but like Guzzlord is minmaxed so that it can only be Attack IIRC
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it won't be boosting anything
tacit sphinx
At least Guzzlord is creepy
bleak pine
it screm
golden lance
What’s like the best ability on the worst mon
Liquid voice
And galvanize
And refrigerate
golden lance
Ok sure, prima was the one i was the most iffy on
Also like
Long reach ig?
Not sure if you even CAN abuse that ability tho
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hyper voice
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liquid voice makes all sound based moves water type
oh you mean long reach
nvm i cant read
bleak pine
Analytic
On Starmie
The ability gives a power bonus to attacking moves if the user goes after the opponent
Starmie is very, very loaded on speed
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yeah saw a few analytic magnezones
bleak pine
...Actually
But Starmie is kinda alright
Just, a very pointless ability on something alright
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don't think I've seen starmie in vgc atleast but probably decent in singles
kind vortex
What mon has an amazing ability it absolutely cannot benefit from
that one flying type rotom with levitate
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that's a good one
kind vortex
Just, a very pointless ability on something alright
analytic works on switches
random stream
@bleak pine breloom's bulk is a little bit too low nowadays to make use of poison heal and it's even worse in doubles
It saw some play in BDSP OU but for current gen 9 loaded dice or focus sash technician performs a lot better
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amoongus has really good defensive typing bulk and Regen so it can get spore off more reliably
bleak pine
Ahhh, I see
random stream
Breloom is still a solid sporer mind you, but amogus is more splashable and easier to use if that makes sense
Since there's no risk
bleak pine
Yeah, I'd imagine Breloom would be a choice for all in offense
Also aaaa that cleffa gif
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It's not solid in doubles
random stream
Ye mogus is good in both loom is mostly in singles
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you'd rather play like bonnet in doubles over breloom if you want a offensive sporer
kind vortex
are there any bonnets in day 2?
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we dont know
bleak pine
I'm a little disappointed I cannot have Beedrill yet in SV
I want to crack that Bee in one's bonnet joke so bad
Wait, there is Vespiquen though
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this is a kinda neat match this round
outer eagle
missed 3 rounds despite being up earlier
outer eagle
did it hit?
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yes
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that's a name i haven't heard in a while
we also had wo chien on stream btw
last round
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they lost the game they brought wo chien
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snarl
outer eagle
oh yeah
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only finals should be tomorrow
outer eagle
2 tork teams
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we'll probably get a few people out due to resistance
tacit sphinx
You know what uh
As far as abilities go that aren’t super impactful
What Rock moves does Bombirdier even get
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2 tork teams
pure TR vs Hybrid
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What Rock moves does Bombirdier even get
every good one
Sash amoongus?
game 1 was so weird
such a neat game
tacit sphinx
every good one
to be fair i have literally not seen bombirdier ever used
The only thing I know about it is, it was a Titan Pokemon, and this one weird guy I know in another server said it has “bedroom eyes”
pseudo goblet
outer eagle
imagine Fissure Bozo and Chien in Finals
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Sorry guys
hexed valley
thats my guy
outer eagle
does that Wo-Chien have Fissure i wonder
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I think we saw snarl forgot what else
outer eagle
did the Articuno guy from yesterday drop
outer eagle
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breloom dude didn't make it either
Shillang Tang lost in last round too sadge
it would've been funny to see him top after morbing wolfe day 1
outer eagle
do we have the list of all the top cut finalists?
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not yet but we can deduce
we have 26 5-2s or better idk how they'll do topcuts with that
outer eagle
mfw when the first 3 rows are all JP
presumably they just do tiebreakers right
those who are x-1 up until round 7 should be secured
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those who are x-1 up until round 7 should be secured
they probably add 6 more or give 6 a bye
5-2 is confirmed topcuts they already said that on stream
according to victory road last time there were 26 topcuts players too so that means no extras
yeah 6 people get bye
source: last year
https://challonge.com/vgc2022worlds
outer eagle
would feel pretty sadge for those 6 but then again that's understandable
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only one you should feel sad for is the sole 6-1 player who won't get a bye
outer eagle
9 out of 26 is higher conversion than day 2 at least
kind vortex
are shohei and hirofumi kimura related or just share a last name?
kind vortex
yeah that's why i asked
tacit sphinx
@fading stratus @random stream cool hypothetical new move for ttar https://i.redd.it/d57sqzo54igb1.png
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such a cool idea for the move
how could have noone thought about the move before
random stream
pseudo goblet
@fading stratus @mighty storm here’s the rock you weirdos mentioned lmao
You did this lmao
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The geodude looks better than I expected
pseudo goblet
Yeah the prints actually have some kind of rough feels to them
random stream
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1921545470-5dxtpot7xo9m867ydt4z1lzslr8nxdhpw Gambito does it again
pseudo goblet
@mighty storm
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where's the 6th mon smh
pseudo goblet
Aight, you ask for it
I was gonna put him for maybe tomorrow, guess I’m build the one I like, after dinner
crimson moat
Sejun Park high rolled his entire way into top 32 of ptcg worlds
crimson moat
He did both he championship into worlds and his worlds top cut with the deck known for requiring high rolls to win certain matchups
Miraidon ex
warm sky
how did my buddy freezai fare
sleek sky
Are there reveals after the tournament?
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Are there reveals after the tournament?
no idea
Shohei Kimura in finals idk who else yet
supposedly shohei was the one who "invented" the current core which is dominating hard
pseudo goblet
where's the 6th mon smh
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is it hollow asking for a friend
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
is it hollow asking for a friend
Similar insides as the Geodude actually
Just, flatter
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Similar insides as the Geodude actually
ah
pseudo goblet
Tho I admit, with Magikarp I made some mistakes and had to rearrange the piece 😅
pseudo goblet
That Grimer gonna end up becoming Alolan by the end of this
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who ping
outer eagle
me
was wondering what round we're on but apparently day 2's over
sleek sky
I guess they're doing all the grand finals tonight
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yeah
mighty storm
Twitter
snow oasis
if a poisoned mon Terastalizes into a poison-type, will it no longer be poisoned?
sleek sky
I think it will still be
At least, I remember seeing that on Showdown once
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And so comes the last day
pseudo goblet
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3VK_kpbwAAPooH?format=jpg&name=medium
God I love that artist
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when does worlds end btw?
they'll have finals of all 9 formats on stream
so uhh will take time
mighty storm
I see
pseudo goblet
mighty storm
new profile pic
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new profile pic
also smh
you didn't have to delete pings
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he fat
pseudo goblet
❣️
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didn't know this emoji existed
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true lmao
pseudo goblet
Also btw, seems like they re doing a Japanese festival there
Irl Teal Mask event lmao
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hexed valley
Wait wtf I just found out one of the VGC finalists is a smogon player
@random stream our guys
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which one
hexed valley
German guy
random stream
bleak pine
Final Fantasy theming, eh?
tacit sphinx
I wish there was a game that was all Contests
maiden flax
so uh
pokemon worlds made 4 of these
1 for unite
1 for tcg
1 for go
1 for vgc
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yeah saw the vgc one a while ago
mighty storm
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Juniors finals was Amoongus killing flutter mane
now only seniors left for finals
mighty storm
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Aaron and Rosemary
mighty storm
I love how my favorite mon is so represented in competitive
pseudo goblet
That’s my boy
pseudo goblet
idk if masters' topcuts even had a gastrodon
You mean this thing?
pseudo goblet
?
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VGC masters division
pseudo goblet
Ah, my bad
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USAGE STATS FOR TOP 12 POKEMON FOR DAY 2
2. Urshifu RS - 46.9%
3. Iron Hands - 46.9%
4. Chien-Pao - 43.4%
5. Amoongus - 38.9%
6. Tornadus - 37.2%
7. Landorus-T - 33.6%
8. Rilaboom - 31.0%
9. Heatran - 29.2%
10. Gholdengo - 23.0%
11. Chi-Yu - 17.7%
12. Urshifu SS - 15.0%```
@sharp kernel @outer eagleThundurus seething
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Yeah last year thundurus was decently popular
outer eagle
surprised Tran is t10
didn't really seem like it from the matches i saw but that's selection bias ig
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Heatran is very good
has good Flutter MU
tera grass means not many things can threaten it
also best fire type for FWG cores
maiden flax
surprised Tran is t10
8 ground types isnt stopping the mon that resists more than half the type chart :v
outer eagle
was more referring to VGC
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apparently farigiraf is in masters finals
outer eagle
yeah that was shown yesterday
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oh i missed it then
maiden flax
was more referring to VGC
same reasoning
maiden flax
apparently farigiraf is in masters finals
huzzah for armor tail!
priority blocking is better recently in doubles so i imagine its the same in doubles
outer eagle
Tran in OU is like 25th in usage, and A- in viability so it's ok, but not amazing
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huzzah for armor tail!
don't know if its sap sipper or armor tail i think
have to check
maiden flax
i believe its armor tail
kind vortex
sap sipper over armor tail in doubles sounds like trolling
(so i could actually see it)
but probably armor tail realistically
fading stratus
biggest argument towards sap sipper is amoongus and rilaboom are top 10 most used pokemon
and sap sipper prevents from spore
kind vortex
you can wear safety goggles for spore
being able to block fake out seems higher priority
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I mean yeah I'm just saying there's an argument to be made for sap sipper
kind vortex
fair
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Japan both in seniors and junior
outer eagle
imagine Japan sweep
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now let's see masters
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imagine Japan sweep <:monkaGIGA:652734094664269835>
last time this happened japan lost to machamp in masters
not in masters seniors apparently
masters now
dude looks like he's about to cry
outer eagle
that grassy terrain is kinda annoying
outer eagle
amoongus??
the heal helps opposing Amogus a lot imo
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yeah we saw that happen the whole tour
wonder if that woodhammer was ohko without crit
considering its grassy terrain
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generally adamant
outer eagle
Adamant Wood Hammer max Atk is guaranteed kill
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atk isnt maxed
outer eagle
even with 20 EVs only it's a 50/50 to kill provided Chien is zero bulk investment
outer eagle
oh Flutter
sorry
yeah on Flutter it's guaranteed no matter what
even with 0 investment and neutral nature
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ah kk
outer eagle
JP really close to sweeping
sleek sky
Smogon in the mud
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HOLY SHIT JAPAN SWEEP
smogon guy got morbed
Amoongus's third world's win
Lan T's second
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Amoongus joins the three times club
Metagross, Thundurus, Snorlax, Cresselia, Incineroar, Salamence and now Amoongus
outer eagle
is there a 4-time club
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nope
outer eagle
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next year cat will have 4
outer eagle
dw its partner will be Amogus
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bring back mega so salamence can win another world's
outer eagle
Mega-Landorus soon
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mega landorus with ability Bintimidate which reduces opponent's atk every turn for 3 turns
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torn has a win, yes
outer eagle
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Torn - 2013
Lando - 2015, 2023
Thun - 2011, 2015, 2022
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Sigh kid, at least enamorus is good in singles
sleek sky
Closing ceremony time
