it's irrelevant for this situation but genning is using an external program such as pkhex and creating pokemon to import into your files
#Pokemon
kind vortex
they can be made as 'legal' as you like, but they wouldn't be 'legit' in the sense that they weren't obtained properly in-game
it's also short for 'generating', as in generating a pokemon
fundamentally you're altering your save file to obtain mons faster
personally, as long as the mons are legal, i don't care if someone gens, but making illegal mons is another animal
i haven't read pokemon's policy in a while but i assume it's as anti-gen as it gets
iirc there are hack checks and whatnot
anyway, the above situation has nothing to do with genning, that was merely speculation
the long and short of it was the act of the top 4 colluding to bring metronome teams in protest was deemed a violation of policy for being 'inappropriate'
maiden flax
iirc there are hack checks and whatnot
The hack checks arent very thorough though
As noted by kaphotic's regularly scheduled look into the hacked teams of the tournament
kind vortex
that isn't too surprising
kind vortex
based on what i'm seeing there, they don't really say anything about mathematically improbable but still possible outcomes
oh i see, kaphotics is a source of the genned mon speculation
mighty storm
doing nat deck monotype, and loving this poison team
fading stratus
Even if the genning speculation is "real" does it even matter
Like unless we get a better way to do stuff genning will always be the optimal way anyway
It's like saying you cheated because you didn't build your deck by opening packs
kind vortex
i've already said i don't care about genning
but that's not a good analogy
buying singles to build decks is not a violation of any tournament policy, while using hacked mons is
but my point is that people were speculating that the reason for the dq's was genning, when based on the available evidence, that's not the case
kaphotics in separate posts was suggesting that genned mons caused the situation
hence
fading stratus
If they think genning is a problem TPC should make a better system to farm for mons
kind vortex
they have most things i can think of already, but they're still missing a real iv setter and a fix to the whole version exclusive thing
the latter won't happen bc that's how they make money, but the former shouldn't be hard at all
fading stratus
Yeah iv setter should've existed since forever
twin shard
TPC should given players full reign on what they have access to during events so they don’t have to resort to hacking and so people have an equal footing instead of either hacking or having to waste tons of time
They’ve gotten better but they still aren’t doing the “character select screen” sort of access that would make competitive pokemon more accessible
mighty storm
||apparently we are getting "PKhex"-like device in the dlc according to Khu|| dlc spoiler
kind vortex
even at 1.3 it's still too strong
fading stratus
Fast electroweb is such a good speed control too
And hits hard with tera ice tera blast or t bolt
Talking about new mons is palance still good btw?
fading stratus
Lmao
mighty storm
Caught shiny frosmoth, what should I name it?
Mothma
reef cosmos
does anyone feel like the higher the generation number, the harder it is to remember the pokemon name correctly?
what's a naclstack?
mudae forces me to type their names
fading stratus
Caught shiny frosmoth, what should I name it?
Big nom
maiden flax
does anyone feel like the higher the generation number, the harder it is to reme...
No not at all
reef cosmos
one contrarian opinion noted
pseudo goblet
LETS FUCKING GO IRIDA FIRST PULL!!! 
Thank god, now I can freely test my rng luck with Adaman 
pseudo goblet
spice rivet
so apparently transistor got nerfed but dragon's maw didn't
Iirc this happened with all the -ate abilities between Gen 6 and 7 (Shoutout Mega Salamence)
crimson moat
Regidrago needs all the help he can get
sleek eagle
What is the worst final starter evo aesthetically
sleek eagle
Iirc this happened with all the -ate abilities between Gen 6 and 7 (Shoutout Meg...
Its funny how leki got banned too
placid junco
What is the worst final starter evo aesthetically
Charizard
outer eagle
aesthetically is pretty hard to define tbh
placid junco
Either Charizard or naked Tylphlosion
placid junco
Tylphosion without it’s flames just looks like a mistake
crimson moat
Typhlosion without its flames definitely.
Outside of that, I’d say Chesnaut or Quaquaval
sleek eagle
Why all the chesnaut hate
sleek eagle
Charizard
They made zard less derpy in sv but they also gave typhlosion his flames back lol
placid junco
I am still a zarc hater
placid junco
Zard*
outer eagle
not really Chesnaught hate
just comparing all of them
you could be a passable design but still come out at the bottom
random stream
@lucid moth 
sleek sky
crimson moat
Sneasler having a positive ban rate
We see you stop hiding
warm sky
bleak pine
Yes
Gengar
Speaking of
I love how Gengar in each form of media is just wildly different
Super scary ghost in the games
Just a fun ghost to be around in the anime
sand forge
Why all the chesnaut hate
Looks like a Digimon
sleek eagle
Looks like a Digimon
But Digimon has cooler designs than pokemon....
sand forge
But Digimon has cooler designs than pokemon....
Not enough like a Digimon to qualify for a cool Digimon design
But too Digimon for Pokémon
warm sky
nothing about it screams Digimon though
sand forge
There's something about its design that doesn't work
Chestnut juggernaut should be awesome
But just very forgettable
Quilladin and Chespin aren't bad
Well, Chespin isn't
Quilladin maybe
sleek eagle
Gallantmon greninja i cannot unsee
crimson moat
Chesnaut more screams MMBN
warm sky
because of dubism
or will we talk about pokemon having shit like sucker punch not being a punch move
mighty storm
or will we talk about pokemon having shit like sucker punch not being a punch mo...
because its not a literal punch
mighty storm
Yep, Japanese is just surprise attack
sand forge
What should they call Sucker Punch instead
mighty storm
Ah I see Yami
mighty storm
What should they call Sucker Punch instead
Unexpected Strike
sand forge
Kinda a meh name
warm sky
You need to keep in mind the character limit
sand forge
Cheap Shot
mighty storm
ooh I like cheap shot
sand forge
Though it makes contact
warm sky
Yeah Cheap Shot is imho a good one
spice rivet
What is the worst final starter evo aesthetically
Delphox no contest
Rita Repulsa lookin ass. Fennekin and Braixen are the only parts of the evolution line actively used lmao
Also if ya'll want some cursed knowledge, look up what the guy who won Pokken Worlds tweeted after winning
reef cosmos
remember when technician fake out was good?
pseudo goblet
Looks good
snow oasis
maiden flax
Fun fact: headlong rush is a punching move
sleek eagle
Pawmot with headlong rush
sand forge
It's rush as in like.. Stand Rush/Punch Rush/Angel Rush
sand forge
What's a rush move
maiden flax
Its supposed to be the sumo charge that happens when the round begins
sand forge
I'm glad they finally gave Ground a viable physical attack
What Ground really needed was a close combat
maiden flax
I'm glad they finally gave Ground a viable physical attack
Earthquake staring at this
random stream
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1878148427-mgj1vrcvyj5v0zltvm455vkei6bsaekpw bunker toxapex vs the world 
grassy terrain + black sludge + baneful bunker
is evil
maiden flax
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1878148427-mgj1vrcvyj5v0zltvm455vkei6b...
also wait, are your pokemon song names?
warm sky
Also if ya'll want some cursed knowledge, look up what the guy who won Pokken Wo...
I'm not finding anything on google, also idk Delphox's grown on me more than Braixen tbh
sand forge
Earthquake staring at this
(sarcasm)
maiden flax
First impression
maiden flax
The real one lacking physical moves is psychic and ghost
fading stratus
Psycho cut
maiden flax
Especially ghost
fading stratus
Shadow sneak
maiden flax
Psycho cut
70 base with ehhh effect
maiden flax
Shadow sneak
Literally the only good one since poltergeist is mia
maiden flax
2 of thise are signature
fading stratus
They're physical ghost moves tho
maiden flax
Shadow claw has the psychocut problem of being 70 bp
Im mostly talking about move that are distributed porperly
fading stratus
Spirit shackle is physical too right?
maiden flax
Yes
Also a signature
fading stratus
Which makes it 3 signature moves lmao
maiden flax
Psychic's best physical move that has actual distribution is psychic fang
fading stratus
And zen headbutt ig
maiden flax
Zen headbutt is next yeah
Though youd generally prefer psychic fang anyway cause 85 power and a pretty good effect
And also 100% accuracy
maiden flax
Psyblade and psyshield bash
Heart stamp is deleted (not mia like poltergeist, just poof, gone)
maiden flax
Swoobat
fading stratus
Yeah that or it's preevo ig woobat or something
summer drum
https://pokepast.es/636420dc53fe8427
fren got me to do gym leader teams for the lulz (no legendaries/mythicals/etc), this is a WIP, thoughts?
fading stratus
Just a thought but it'd be funnier to make it a double battle with TR team
summer drum
lol
fading stratus
Also would paradox mons count in the etc
random stream
For indee you can use terrain extender
outer eagle
Rock still doesn’t have an acceptable power move with perfect accuracy right?
random stream
Rock still doesn’t have an acceptable power move with perfect accuracy right?
stone axe
im kidding im not sure
fading stratus
Stone axe is 90
random stream
Sadge
fading stratus
Accelerock is the only good rock physical move with 100 accuracy
Also salt cure ig
random stream
tera blast rock 
maiden flax
So was First Impression iirc?
No its not
Not anymore
I mean
It used to be exclusive to golisopod
But now its pn a bunch of different mons
Like haxorus and lokix
golden lance
Still kind of a shame that they took away the one niche that golisopod had to justify its shitty ability
summer drum
https://pokepast.es/636420dc53fe8427
fren got me to do gym leader teams for the ...
https://pokepast.es/90ac5a706ed45f7b
updated
help me figure out which teras to use
summer drum
I love how chill Ursaluna is
snow oasis
it took me longer than I’d like to admit to realize that Magearna is probably pronounced muh-GEER-nuh and not may-jee-ARR-nuh
placid junco
The former is definitely the official pronunciation
pseudo goblet
it took me longer than I’d like to admit to realize that Magearna is probably pr...
The latter sound kinda like the Japanese pronunciation
fading stratus
it took me longer than I’d like to admit to realize that Magearna is probably pr...
I use the mix of both
May geer nuh
golden lance
Is this the infinite fusion all the kids are talking about?
Back side for reference
fading stratus
This is the most cursed thing I've seen in my whole life
pseudo goblet
This is the most cursed thing I've seen in my whole life
Wait till they add Squirtle into the mix, Literally
tacit sphinx
it took me longer than I’d like to admit to realize that Magearna is probably pr...
mage-ar-na
placid junco
Idk why they would go for “mage” over “gear”
pseudo goblet
Where the mage element from?
Stupid question, which one might’ve came into existence first, Magearna or Voltorb line
pseudo goblet
I can’t help but thinking there’s some kind of connection between these ball shape pokemon
sand forge
I can’t help but thinking there’s some kind of connection between these ball sha...
Yeah, they were designed by a person
The earliest Pokeball mimic is Brute Bonnet
Then Magearna, then Voltorb
pseudo goblet
Yeah I was considering Brute as well
sand forge
Brute Bonnet is at minimum 65,000,000 years ago
Magearna 500
Voltorb-Hisui is only like 150
pseudo goblet
Funny how Pokémon company kept giving us these pokeball-mons lmao
Gen 1, 5, 7 for Magearna technically, 8 and 9
sand forge
Which was 8?
pseudo goblet
Even tho H-Voltorb and Brute are the first few oldest in lore, doesn’t change that they were in newer gens
pseudo goblet
Which was 8?
Oh, H-voltorb, at least I’m pretty sure it is
golden lance
Which was 8?
G stunfisk
sand forge
G Stunfisk & Foongus are the best mimics
Since their mimicry serves a purpose
Voltorb just wants to explode
pseudo goblet
Okay fine if we were to do this in regions they live in, I guess Voltorb goes to Sinnoh, since we have Stunfisk in Galar
sand forge
Does Voltorb show up in the non-Japanese regions
pseudo goblet
Umm, oh they do, Paldea
sand forge
Unova & Galar are both America
pseudo goblet
I did struggle to find Voltorb and Electrode while I was playing Scarlet, that’s what make me remember
Now that I think about it, why the hell Voltorb shows up in the mining area 
In Paldea
outer eagle
isn't Galar Ingerland?
pseudo goblet
Now that I think about it, why the hell Voltorb shows up in the mining area <:KE...
While you find Electrode around Larry’s gym
sand forge
isn't Galar Ingerland?
Supposedly, with a bunch of American references stuffed in there
Like G Zigzagoon, the fossils
pseudo goblet
Btw, I’ve been watching the new Pokémon episode while we were discussing, I just can’t with Cyclizar jp name here 😅
Motor+Tokage(Lizard)
while im at it, man Mesazoga looks good in the anime, at least its not lagging like hell lol
sand forge
Vroomvroom
bleak pine
I just really liked Teddiursa and Ursaring. It was super cool to see Ursaring finally go further into this big-arse bear
Also have you seen Ursaluna dig stuff up?
She looks so happy when she excavates something
pseudo goblet
okay this episode is just gonna be me learning these Paldea mon jp names
pseudo goblet
Also have you seen Ursaluna dig stuff up?
In Paldea or Legends?
pseudo goblet
Oh okay, thought they made some kind of digging animation for big bear in SV just now
bleak pine
Alright, stupid discovery
Rellor and Scarabra can learn Cosmic Power as an egg move
…You need to pass it over by having it learn from Arceus or Eternatus, since nothing else learns it currently
Just, in case anyone wants something different from their favorite dung beetle
pseudo goblet
Excuse me what
pseudo goblet
Jesus I haven’t learn how to breed using SV camp system yet and this is just nonsense to me
bleak pine
Well, it’s not gotten by egg hatching
You can pass egg moves even if they aren’t in the same egg group
All you need is a Mirror Herb given to the recipient
pseudo goblet
And the Pokémon just copy the move from others??
bleak pine
Yep, so long as they got an empty spot in their known moves, it will be passed on
maiden flax
You know something i never noticed until i started playing in draft leagues?
Stunfisk is tankier than gastrodon but doesnt have recovery
mighty storm
I just go with Ma-gear-na in my head
same
sand forge
They should give Ting Lu rain dish
(it can catch rain in its dish)
Wo-Chien can get Fluffy
pseudo goblet
You know something i never noticed until i started playing in draft leagues?
St...
which one, Unovan or Galarian, if Galarian, i mean, the pyro maniac inside me wanna Pyro-Ball it quite a bit lol
maiden flax
both
outer eagle
reliable recovery really makes or breaks a wall mon huh
pseudo goblet
i question how the guy came up with G-Stunfisk look at Unovan's circle mouth and think 'mmm... yes, this thing need makeup, something... Iconic' lol
maiden flax
reliable recovery really makes or breaks a wall mon huh
Absolutely
pseudo goblet
i question how the guy came up with G-Stunfisk look at Unovan's circle mouth and...
then just grabbed the nearest white and red lipsticks and give it a chomper mouth
maiden flax
Im still of the opinion that had galar weezing got reliable recovery it would 100% had been an ou mon in gen 8
Poison fairy is a really good defensive type on top of good defenses and 3 great abilities and a surprisingly diverse movepool the one thing it lacked was reliable recovery
pseudo goblet
it learns Fire moves right
pseudo goblet
couldve destroy the gentleman-ball-of-gas with steel if it didnt 
maiden flax
Had it got reliable recovery it could actually outlast pex in a one v one with neutralizing gas as gweezing could do more damage to it than pex could do back and pex wouldnt be able to regenerator it off
wide lynx
Ngl
The sending out a Pokemon to forage/autobattle feature should have been a godsend
But Jesus Christ it fucking sucks in practice
Every time my Pokemon just wanders past herds of Pokemon in front of me like "wat do"
Doesn't help the lockon system is garbage especially when targeting small Pokemon or moving
WHY AREN'T YOU ATTACKING
jagged linden
The sending out a Pokemon to forage/autobattle feature should have been a godsen...
the worst part is how you have to manually battle to get EVs (at least, afaik)
void herald
yeah you'd end up with a bunch of evs you don't want otherwise
jagged linden
I mean maybe?
it depends imo
I would have rather had a way to pseudo automate the process than have to manually go around and grind the evs
sleek sky
are there consumables for EVs
pseudo goblet
Let me just say, these two look pretty fine in their usual wear, but here, dang they look hot 
kind vortex
are there consumables for EVs
vitamins and feathers
vitamins give 10 each, feathers give 1 each
vitamins are things like hp up, protein, iron, calcium, zinc, carbos
mighty storm
dont know if real, but 4chan "leak" about indigo disk
random stream
mighty storm
||These paradox leaks are just reversing the exclusives ||
sand forge
mighty storm
prob fake, but I do like the last one listed for scarlet
maiden flax
dont know if real, but 4chan "leak" about indigo disk
I think its fake but at the very least the person making it understands the assignment of "the paradox form always has one of the original types"
Unlike other fake leaks thats like "iron muscle (machamp) is steel/electric" or something
fading stratus
I still remember the fake leak name for Bonnet
"Ungabungus"
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Lulligator
sand forge
Pokémon names be hard
random stream
sand forge
Terastalising out of the Poison type to then miss Toxic is rough
random stream
yeah, but I think I just outhealed with drain punch to complete the sweep
mighty storm
I think its fake but at the very least the person making it understands the assi...
true
maiden flax
Hmmm
Reading the comments on the new pokemon anime or mal
I cant tell if its just mal or pokemon fans in general who are so stuck to the past that they start screaming at anything remotely new
Or both!
crimson moat
Hmmm
Reading the comments on the new pokemon anime or mal
I cant tell if its jus...
I mean those same message boards were filled with mal and rather stupid comments when Ash was around. A lot of the fanbase who only cared about Ash often just didn’t care about quality to begin with.
pseudo goblet
I just keep watching 
crimson moat
Compared to Journeys, it is being handled way better so far
maiden flax
Also I like sprigatito being a cat 90% of the time
pseudo goblet
Writing wise, definitely
crimson moat
I’d find it very difficult to repeat Journeys having worse production than Vrains
pseudo goblet
Journey is just, idk, the chore-of-the-week writing? 😅
maiden flax
I want a whole series of sprigatito just being a cat
crimson moat
Journey is just, idk, the chore-of-the-week writing? 😅
I mean that’s most of Pokémon anime gen 1-8. Journeys compounded that issue by pulling punches on multiple characters development after first trying to break norms, and then did a horrible job at handling the concept people dreamed of Ash reaching for over a decade
maiden flax
I like how the new anime seems to actually be building up to something
crimson moat
Yeah, the championships was not good beyond one beautifully animated scene
maiden flax
With the whole pendant situation
pseudo goblet
Yeah, the championships was not good beyond one beautifully animated scene
Every Leon fight except the one with Ash is pretty unforgivable
crimson moat
Yeah they had massive production problems given they basically cut 2 battles, recap’d 4 times, and took 5 weeks not airing episodes in the stretch of half a year’s time
And for that mindset on quality, you’d think that people with a vendetta towards the plot system would want a new battle where Ash finally defeats Alain
They aired one of the shittiest ideas possible to downplay Alain to a jobber instead and some people praised that
They didn’t even care that Ash won, they cared that Alain lost
pseudo goblet
I mean, yeah I agree, but, the other choice they have is downplay any of the champions
crimson moat
Or do a better job at handling a league altogether
pseudo goblet
The amount of Pokémon you can use in the early-league is stupid…
Yeah it’s more work and more time but that would give us better screen time for ash’s pokemon, especially Dragonite 
crimson moat
Like my concept was to have Ash work his way from 8th to first and have all the battles centered on him and his different pokemon from over the years
DP league did that, if not even a bit shamelessly, and did much better at that. When it came down to Ash vs Paul, they immediately centered back up on the team he developed
… Tobias is a complete shitshow yeah, but most of the rest of that league was good
pseudo goblet
Sooo, how we feel with SM league
crimson moat
Better than Journeys, but pulled punches at the beginning
Having 6 main cast was a big anchor on it
Because they had to expand to a top 16, throw in filler by default, and take away time from some meaningful stuff
Really, really wish we had more a reaction of characters for Lana vs Guzma specifically given the backstory they gave poplio
Guzma vs Ash, Ash vs Gladion, and Ash vs Kukui are all great
maiden flax
I just like the grass cat doing cat things
Like trying to pounch at the floating rotom pad
golden lance
Ngl ash should've rotated his team way more
Instead of just getting new mons in journeys
golden lance
New run?
fading stratus
Which game
outer eagle
looks like Emerald, but not sure if randomized or romhack
random stream
Our old run
pseudo goblet
Oh yeah, man I forgot I asked to be the ground type
fading stratus
Oh yeah, man I forgot I asked to be the ground type
What's this about
outer eagle
an old Emerald randomizer nuzlocke iirc
some people had dibs on certain types of Pokemon
to be named after them
pseudo goblet
What's this about
People playing their own run, some of us just shout out which kind of Pokémon we like to have our names on
maiden flax
Im water 😄
pseudo goblet
In this case, I called dibs on first type ground in Ren’s run
random stream
Yeah got so busy that I barely got to play, picked it up again for a bit
nobody died so far, lots of close calls though
fading stratus
People playing their own run, some of us just shout out which kind of Pokémon we...
if we can claim types i'd take uhh dark or bug type ig?
snow oasis
mighty storm
pseudo goblet
https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1666112708154982404
Where’s the Poison, Dark and Ghost books 
mighty storm
that's the next one surely
sand forge
https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1666112708154982404
This feels weird to me
Like brand indoctrination I guess
Blech
crimson moat
Even their books have unnecessary version splits
vagrant steppe
Like brand indoctrination I guess
Nah I agree
It's got the same vibes as those "learning with Disney" books
Get your kid into our brand when they're young and they'll be a fan for life
fading stratus
Ah yes my favourite water types Pikachu and pichu
crimson moat
Ah yes my favourite water types Pikachu and pichu
Wrong. Can’t you read the pictures? They are clearly fire type. /s
vagrant steppe
Over half of the Pokemon on the water cover are not water types
Bounsweet doesn't even evolve into one
sand forge
There aren't that many water type Pokémon in the game tbh
They should've chosen a more represented type
sacred hatch
they cant
sand forge
oh yeah they're locked into the 3 starter types
mighty storm
It reminds me of the seashore book I had as a kid, but with pokemon and no sensory stuff
the book is cute
bleak pine
why are we overanalyzing a book
Also, yeah Pikachu on the covers
But why is there a Bounsweet on the Water book
what
And now I'm overanalyzing the books. Wow
fading stratus
There aren't that many water type Pokémon in the game tbh
Idk if it's supposed to be irony or not
Since water is the starter type with most number of Mons
mighty storm
But why is there a Bounsweet on the Water book
bounsweet is actually the antagonist of the book and its there to show grass types are big danger for water types
same with pikachu and pichu
"Pikachu is making a splash in the ocean! It can't wait to challenge a water type pokemon"
fading stratus
bounsweet is actually the antagonist of the book and its there to show grass typ...
Is the main antagonist of fire book stealth rock?
mighty storm
mighty storm
Is the main antagonist of fire book stealth rock?
it better be
fading stratus
"This is IV, It has a random value from 0 to 31, your hidden power type also depend on your IVs"
fading stratus
And 3 more chapters dedicated to cat
mighty storm
fading stratus
I know why Pikachu is in the ghost book atleast
mighty storm
fading stratus
If you use a big hard brick on a Pikachu it turns into a ghost type
mighty storm
idk when they printed the fairy book, but if after gen 8 then one of the pages would have sword doggo maybe
mighty storm
and seems to not just be type books
there are a lot of these, also @waxen moat Slowwwwwwww
waxen moat
pseudo goblet
Yay, now there’s another to teach kids how terrifying ghosts are
mighty storm
"This is slowpoke, they are slow moving. This is ninjask, they are very fast!"
the book probably idk
golden lance
And then ninjask used swords dance and baton pass
mighty storm
true
fading stratus
And then ninjask used swords dance and baton pass
What if I baton passed with harden
bleak pine
Paging Ducky, come in Ducky
golden lance
‘This is Slowpoke, they love Udon, This is Galarian Slowpoke, they love curry’
And then the slowpokes declared a war in #1020783956184023070 last week
pseudo goblet
Heard slowpoke tail was tasty
Tasty enough you wanna hunt them 
mighty storm
The guy in the gen 2 games told me
fun fact, even if you grind to max money in gen 2 you can never buy the tails cuz you will be 1 off
fading stratus
Ye
pseudo goblet
Slowpoke tail, nature’s Lollipop, sweet enough that slowpokes will bite into other slowpokes tail, or Ghost pepper Lollipop if it’s Galarian
Sour flavor when 
Actually that makes sense with the tail bait fishing thing now that I realize
bleak pine
Oh wow, apparently Mew can learn Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn and Hydro Cannon
…not surprising admittedly in part due to these moves being TM’s
But neat
sand forge
It reminds me of the seashore book I had as a kid, but with pokemon and no senso...
The seashore isn't a brand to be indoctrinated into
- I had the same book, was sick
sand forge
~~why are we overanalyzing a book~~
Because it's a really weird thing to force onto your kids?
sand forge
Since water is the starter type with most number of Mons
That would be why it's sarcasm lol
fading stratus
understandable
mighty storm
The seashore isn't a brand to be indoctrinated into
+ I had the same book, was...
Ok and? That first statement was just me being a little nostalgic
and yeah By the Seashore is such a cute book
sand forge
With the sea urchin that is a lil spiky
mighty storm
yup!
bleak pine
Book~
vocal torrent
owo otter
pseudo goblet
I mean hey, I get to hang around a metagross and I actually would love to check out Steven’s rock collection
Also Steven seems like the type who likes playing Minecraft
warm sky
The russian Pokédex is nuts
Who knew most Clefable were Buddhist
outer eagle
would have personally preferred N tbh, altho Cynthia is fine ig
sand forge
Who is April
warm sky
Who is April
8th gym leader of Galar, he's Leon's childhood rival and a live streamer
fading stratus
Name's Raihan
Dude's a "dragon" gym leader but has like 2(?) Dragon mons in his party
Classic lance moment
outer eagle
hey don't insult Birdkeeper Lance like that
fading stratus
Dragonair is a one of a kind bird
And even the rematch team of Raihan has the best dragon type mon
Torkoal
sand forge
I see
fading stratus
https://twitter.com/touyarokii/status/1666237292267323392?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVW...
I got everyone's favourite miss unova ig
pseudo goblet
I got everyone's favourite miss unova ig
Wdym??? Skyla ain’t here
pseudo goblet
Classic lance moment
Here’s another one
fading stratus
Wdym??? Skyla ain’t here <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
I said what I said
outer eagle
Here’s another one
wonder how far we can take that statement?
not all pokemon are Pokemon 
pseudo goblet
Not all fish Pokémon are water types lol
fading stratus
not all revives are revives so I should be able to use revives in my nuzlocke
pseudo goblet
mighty storm
Not all fish Pokémon are water types lol
can't think of any others
unless we counting sea urchins as fish
pseudo goblet
Overqwil works 
mighty storm
Overqwil works <:blob3c:856791836059762688>
ok overquil and quilfish count I guess, they are technically fish
but like that's only 3
golden lance
lugia
pseudo goblet
ok overquil and quilfish count I guess, they are technically fish
Speaking of the spiky boy 😅
Haven’t got any gold medal for a while and THIS is what I get lmao
mighty storm
Speaking of the spiky boy 😅
nice
outer eagle
Land Octopuses exist tho
fading stratus
elecktross lines are eels ig idk if they're fishes
and dragalge line is sea horse
outer eagle
probably easier to apply Lance's statement to Flying types tbh
is there a Flying pokemon that isn't Flying type
golden lance
Scizor
outer eagle
can scizor fly?
golden lance
A lot of dragons
outer eagle
wasn't one of its dex entries specifically about how scizor cannot fly 
golden lance
Oh
fading stratus
scizor has wings so id assume so\
golden lance
Yea scizor cant
golden lance
You know who can fly tho?
fading stratus
like volbeat illumise
golden lance
Garchomp
outer eagle
looney toons logic
bleak pine
it jump high
golden lance
Dragonair flies using its ears
fading stratus
ghosts just levitate does it count?
outer eagle
ghosts levitate tbh
outer eagle
he can fly, but he's too lazy to do more than just levitate 
golden lance
None of the galar birds are flying type right?
fading stratus
hear me out
regieleki jumps high so it looks like flying
fading stratus
articuno is flying choccy
golden lance
Surely he moves slow during trick room 
bleak pine
Part of me thinks the Speed Stat really isn't just how fast mons can move, but it
outer eagle
Eleki moves so fast that he breaks Trick Room sorry
bleak pine
It is also quickness of action, or how fast they can react
fading stratus
is moltres dark fire or dark flying
outer eagle
it's an actual in-game thing btw
bleak pine
It's a Dark/Flying type
golden lance
Dark flying tf
fading stratus
it's an actual in-game thing btw
wat
bleak pine
All the Galarian foemes are flying type
fading stratus
isnt zapdos electric fight
outer eagle
wat
yeah, there's a speed threshold when surpassed, allows you to ignore Trick Room entirely
golden lance
No
bleak pine
And funnily enough none of them learn the type of moves associated with the standard, like Ice, Electric or Fire type moves
outer eagle
Eleki and Deo-S were the only 2 possible mons to reach that threshold iirc
fading stratus
yeah, there's a speed threshold when surpassed, allows you to ignore Trick Room ...
oh yeah i remember that
saw it in a yt vid
fading stratus
dodrio
golden lance
Charizard jokes aside
golden lance
dodrio
He can weirdly enough
But like
Rotom fan, g zapdos
Delibird
Tecnically mantine?
outer eagle
Mantine can fly in a way
golden lance
Gyarados?
outer eagle
by using the symbiotic mons
fading stratus
can vullaby fly
fading stratus
oricorio doesnt fly either right?\
golden lance
Wait
outer eagle
it can
fading stratus
it's a literal vulture
big fat vulture with tiny wings
outer eagle
it's not really fat per se
it's just the shell
making it look fatter than it actually is
fading stratus
still fat
outer eagle
altho yeah Vullaby can't fly according to its dex
outer eagle
bro i've seen the "average American male"
golden lance
Can minior fly?
outer eagle
Vullaby looks fit in comparison
golden lance
Does whatever celesteela do count as flying?
fading stratus
celesteela also levitates
outer eagle
Celesteela is actual satellite
and it has thrusters according to USUM animations iirc
golden lance
Funnily enough, most ubs count in the mon flying types that fly category
Naganadel, buzzwole, necrozma
Lunala
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kartana
outer eagle
Kartana is the definition of floating
golden lance
Kartana is just really light
fading stratus
nihilego
outer eagle
Nihilego flies through the power of DRUGS
fading stratus
all tapus technically fly too
golden lance
I guess
fading stratus
they do fly how elsw would mr chicken save you
maiden flax
pretty sure koko even learns fly
fading stratus
i know it learns sky drop
outer eagle
Koko do be a chicken
golden lance
Does rayquaza fly or does he float?
maiden flax
do you count asian dragons as flying?
why is randbats top 500 so high? like why is the cut off point like 2150!?
fading stratus
mew volcarona flapple giratina arceus dragapult eternatus roaring moon all learn fly so they fly ig
crimson moat
why is randbats top 500 so high? like why is the cut off point like 2150!?
Wow really?
Didn’t randbats also have a W/L ratio calculator per Pokémon?
crimson moat
I remember that specifically being developed when Zacian was bs-ing randbats
maiden flax
im at 2011 now and this is getting ridiculous lol
crimson moat
I remember that specifically being developed when Zacian was bs-ing randbats
(Which yes, hypothetically every Pokémon should have close to 50% Win/Use in randbats for balance. The strongest Pokémon before Zacian had like 53% or so and Zacian had nearly 60%)
(So add that to the running list of formats and games Zacian broke)
maiden flax
the moody mons were also pretty oppressive
crimson moat
Yeah moody was bs too
maiden flax
it was very difficult to lose a game when you got a moody mon
mighty storm
Grapploct
that's not a fish
An octopus is neither a fish nor a mammal. Instead, octopuses are cephalopods related to squid and cuttlefish. The octopus is classified as one branch of mollusks
fading stratus
Atleast someone studied biology it seems
mighty storm
googled, but yeah like outside the quilfish (cuz who remembers quilfish!) example I couldnt think of any others besides chi yu that are fish
that arent water type
fading stratus
I said elektross and dragagle
crimson moat
Stunfisk is based off fish
outer eagle
I said elektross and dragagle <:ConcernedFroge:652741645816561670>
Fish
sand forge
elecktross lines are eels ig idk if they're fishes
Aren't they Lamprey mixed with Electric Eels?
mighty storm
oh huh eels are fish
sand forge
Fish is a very general term
mighty storm
ooh ya know what they should do in a future game? A regional unknown
sand forge
and algae
It's not, it's based on a Leafy Sea Dragon
It's a seaweed mimic, not made of seaweed
mighty storm
yes pokemon often draw inspiration from multiple things
mighty storm
yeah, but again the prompt was non water types. It kinda counts, but like it's prevo is water
sand forge
everything is fish if you stretch far enough <:yeetbrain:780566992309846029>
Taxonomically we are still fish
mighty storm
but ya wanna know what the best fish pokemon is?
mighty storm
youre mistaken, it's a sea dragon, who disguise themselves as kelp
dragalge, it's a sea dragon yes
sand forge
"Fish" as a grouping is essentially "a vertebrate that is not a mammal, reptile, or amphibian"
maiden flax
i feel like relicanth is a boring design for a cool fish 😔
fading stratus
a[coelacanth]
jovial gobletBOT
a[coelacanth]
maiden flax
"Fish" as a grouping is essentially "a vertebrate that is not a mammal, reptile,...
or bird
fading stratus
Relicanth should've looked like this smh
outer eagle
idt GF wants to give kids nightmares
outer eagle
what are cryptids part of
mighty storm
"Fish" as a grouping is essentially "a vertebrate that is not a mammal, reptile,...
unless you are catholics in venezuelia
sand forge
Reptilia and Avian are different
Reptile is a paraphyletic class, meaning you have to exclude birds
outer eagle
do we have a mon based on manatees
sand forge
In the same way that birds are dinosaurs
mighty storm
we need a capybara pokemon
sand forge
You never stop being what you're descended from
fading stratus
You never stop being what you're descended from
You maybe a monke
I'm not
outer eagle
are you chimp instead
sand forge
Humans aren't descended from monkeys or chimps
maiden flax
class, order, phylum, sub phylum, sub class
all of this is so confusing
why cant everthing be classified like gorilla gorilla
outer eagle
so when are you buying gamespot stocks?
sand forge
class, order, phylum, sub phylum, sub class
all of this is so confusing
~~why ...
Linnaeus was like "K, P, C, O, F, G, S" nice and neat
fading stratus
class, order, phylum, sub phylum, sub class
all of this is so confusing
~~why ...
I dropped bio in second year of my highschool due to this bullshit
sand forge
And then life was like "we're extremely complicated by the way"
maiden flax
forget classifications
embrace the gorilla gorilla gorilla
sand forge
"Katy Perry Claims Orgasms Feel Good Sometimes" is the best mnemonic btw
maiden flax
genus gorilla, the species gorilla gorilla, the subspecies gorilla gorilla gorilla
sand forge
Bufo bufo
fading stratus
"Katy Perry Claims Orgasms Feel Good Sometimes" is the best mnemonic btw
Big boys run over young girls but violet getting wet
Or whatever the color mnemonics was
sand forge
What's BBW in that mnemonic
fading stratus
Black brown white
sand forge
Ah ok
Slightly off topic but one thing that pulls me out of my immersion is when sci-fi gets species name formatting wrong
Reeeeeeee
fading stratus
Do you mean no underline
sand forge
Capitalised species name more often than not
outer eagle
being too knowledgable about any featured movie subject's gonna ruin it for you
sand forge
Tyrannosaurus Rex instead of Tyrannosaurus rex
Or the Godzilla movies have all their monsters belonging to the same genus
fading stratus
being too knowledgable about any featured movie subject's gonna ruin it for you
Yeah being too knowledgeable in physics ruins action scenes for me
fading stratus
Do you atleast use itallic
fading stratus
Do they atleast get most of the name right
sand forge
Wdym
fading stratus
Well y'know
Like say instead of Mangifera indica they write Magnifera india or something idk
tacit sphinx
Slightly off topic but one thing that pulls me out of my immersion is when sci-f...
‘Its scientific name is "Oddium Wanderus." At night, it is said to walk nearly 1,000 feet on its two roots.’
sand forge
Yep
void herald
honestly don't even talk to me if your scientific name isn't oddium wanderus
sand forge
Do the other Pokémon have scientific names
Is Gloom Oddium wanderus
Or Oddium stinkerus
void herald
u are stinkius maximus
silver vigil
Twitter
random stream
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1880184460-emnmdvr66y637b82hy7naqeo592euvtpw zamazenta-hero is still filthy
wild imp
I’m a zama H believer
pseudo goblet
I give it the name Iron Shock/Storm/Thunder
I like how Pichu’s ears peeks out like that lol
slate marlin
Yo, is there such a thing as a joke mon?
sand forge
https://twitter.com/lordyanyu/status/1666468384480067584?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWL...
With Gorochu Past Paradox Raichu
slate marlin
Ok.
sand forge
I feel like Wobbuffet is also a joke Poké
pseudo goblet
Meh, it’s a gimmick mon for me
sand forge
What's the difference
fading stratus
Smeargle is a gimmick Mon
But probably not a joke
sand forge
True
random stream
Both are gimmicks but not jokes yeah
random stream
Wobbu pre stag ban and pre gothitelle was a really nice trapper
warm sky
A joke mon is something bad on purpose
sand forge
Not necessarily
Wob is designed to just be one of those training dummies that bounces back and smacks you in the face
Seems pretty goofy to me
void herald
is magikarp not a joke mon
fading stratus
its supposed to be the legend of carp jumping over the waterfall to become a dragon ig
sand forge
Magikarp is a magic carp
I don't know what more you want from it
Give us past Paradox Magikarp you cowards
mighty storm
gyarados should've had a golden shiny
spice rivet
Adorable
pseudo goblet
Yeah agree, just can’t read lol
pseudo goblet
https://twitter.com/sakura_fakemon/status/1666651262253948930?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGC...
Aegislash watched too many One piece
fading stratus
past paradox aegislash would be cool tho
pseudo goblet
Wha- Unite made Leafeon into a Speedster???
Okay you know what, never thought Leafeon and the word ‘fast’ together but apparently leafy boi IS pretty fast
fading stratus
Wha- Unite made Leafeon into a Speedster???
So you're saying it's Leafy Allen?
pseudo goblet
No that’s just what the Blue class pokemon is, they fast lol
sand forge
Are Jolteon/Espeon speedsters
pseudo goblet
Are Jolteon/Espeon speedsters
Espeon is with Attacker
And no original Eevelutions yet oddly
pseudo goblet
mean look my beloved
Foul play baby
pseudo goblet
mighty storm
I should work on my BDSP nuzlocke tomorrow
pseudo goblet
mighty storm
Mimikitty
slate marlin
That works.
bleak pine
Aaaaa Skitty
tacit sphinx
The fuck
This second hand shop is selling Pokemon Silver for 79 dollars, and Pokemon Gold for 119 dollars
bleak pine
Woaaaah
…wait
Does the internal battery still run?
I heard that sometimes these games give out and refuse to save any data after sometime
May be worth asking about it if someone is to pick it up
sand forge
Those are some of the best Fakemon names I've seen
pseudo goblet
Hear me out, They making a Ghastly mascot suit with this idea, for both the legs and the arms lol
slate marlin
Yo quick question- do the Mega Evolutions actually hurt the Mons?
Cause I thought you had to be bff with the mon to Mega Evolve it.
sand forge
Yo quick question- do the Mega Evolutions actually hurt the Mons?
Yes
Mega Gengar literally stops seeing you as a friend, and just wants to eat you
Mega Gyarados is put into a berserk state by overburdening its body
Mega Aerodactyl's Pokédex entry says it is in pain
Scizor will start to melt if it remains in the Mega Evolution form
Mega Heracross gains intense muscle pain when reverting back to its normal form
Mega Houndoom's tail and claws are literally melting
Causing it pain
Slowbro is being eaten alive
Though it is comfy
Glalie's jaw breaks open
slate marlin
!
fading stratus
Mega Gengar literally stops seeing you as a friend, and just wants to eat you
Isn't it more like
It won't attack the opponent unless it sees them as prey or something I forgot
sand forge
Isn't it more like
It won't attack the opponent unless it sees them as prey or ...
Sun & Ultra Sun are slightly conflicting
fading stratus
Ah gotcha
golden lance
Worth noting that the fucked up mega evolution entries only got introduced in gen 7, it was perceived as something entirely positive in XY/ORAS
spice rivet
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Valid until:
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Excuse the weird formatting, copy pasted
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1881904939-gwotjkq3m52edaye0ifljmgucur7t36pw toxapex does it again
pseudo goblet
LETS FUCKING GO!!! WTH
31st pull, where is this luck when I need it for Archie/SS Kris/any other Master fair I didn’t win
warm sky
scroll up
mighty storm
oops
I really hope the peach trio (quartet if we count ogerpon) gets forms inspired by Donbrothers 🙏
pseudo goblet
Ah, that explains why the translate go with 'Smol'ive, also Aww, these two look adorable
I want that cup
I wonder if Pokemon have that actual product
God, not to point out flaws Journeys had, but this episode so far did really well transferring the video game plot into the anime
While also keeping its own, so like you watching the anime plot AND SV plot together
random stream
mighty storm
after many generations of magikarp, I won the fast league
mighty storm
I still find it weird how we still only have 1 dragon/rock pokemon line
sand forge
We only have one Rock/Fighting
Only "one" line with Rock/Fairy
Only 1 line with Rock/Grass
Only 1 Rock/Dark
Only 1 Rock/Psychic
Another Water/Steel would be cool though
fading stratus
When Dragon/Bug
outer eagle
Water is the only type that has a mon for every secondary type right?
warm sky
yes
fading stratus
Flying?
outer eagle
Normal Electric mon?
fading stratus
So
Water
Grass
Psychic
Flying
Electric
Anything I'm missing?
fading stratus
Nope
outer eagle
Yeah Normal seems like a good way to filter things
fading stratus
Is there a rock fighting
outer eagle
Terrakion
outer eagle
Mega Lopunny carrying hard here
sand forge
Normal Ice missing also
outer eagle
Does Ghost Fairy exist
fading stratus
Mimi
pseudo goblet
When Dragon/Bug
This tbh 
fading stratus
I'd pay to have a dragon bug pseudo
pseudo goblet
Is there a rock ghost?
Definitely no, which is why I’ve been hoping for an alt form of Spiritomb
pseudo goblet
Just spray the tiniest drop of holy water, lose the evilness and dark type, BOOM, Ghost Rock
fading stratus
Water
Grass
Psychic
Flying
Electric
Fighting
Only this I think
golden lance
mega aggron maybe?
pseudo goblet
i cant recall any pure steel by name
Klink
golden lance
shoutouts to roggenrola for being the first pure rock type
fading stratus
Also the gen 8 bird whose name I totally didn't forget for being pure flying
outer eagle
Gigalith is still a gigachad mon to this day
pseudo goblet
Mawile used to be pure Steel <:cheems:683182129668292685>
I’m aware, but since yall brought up mega lopunny I saw earlier, should be up to Gen 6 standard ain’t it
golden lance
tornadus was the first pure flying
pseudo goblet
The least rock-looking mon to be first pure rock, really 😅
fading stratus
Regirock and Nosepass were pure rock too actually
Before roggenrola
Shoutouts to Nosepass gen 3 sprite
pseudo goblet
Mmm… Sunkern was the first pure grass ain’t it…
fading stratus
Chikorita
outer eagle
Actually
sand forge
Or Registeel
pseudo goblet
Gen 2, the three mentioned pure grass introduced in the same gen, wtf 