Pokemon

[bleak pine]

Yeah, that was in HGSS

You had to push a bunch of boulders to get to chuck in GSC

[tacit sphinx]

According to trainers in his gym, Pryce meditates daily under a waterfall to focus

[dawn skiff]

yeah iirc he's like

[golden lance]

EVERYONE was crazy in the manga

It doesnt count

[tacit sphinx]

Yo btw

[bleak pine]

Instead of trying to interrupt his training just so he can hear you

[tacit sphinx]

Can we discuss how Gen 2 is likep

[void herald]

pryce was extra crazy though

[dawn skiff]

the main baddie in the gsc manga

[bleak pine]

Pryce is a cool old guy

I can get behind that

[dawn skiff]

damn

[golden lance]

Doesnt pryce like

[dawn skiff]

no experience for choccy

[tacit sphinx]

Clair’s gym in GSC is the single biggest OHS risk of any gym imo

[golden lance]

Get lost in the abyss of time

Or smth?

[dawn skiff]

the bellsprout killed both choccy and itself

[bleak pine]

Yeah like for real

The platforms move so friggin fast

...Or maybe that's just HGSS again

Still, it's all got lava either way

[tacit sphinx]

“So in order to progress the trainer has to push boulders to fall down into lava”

[golden lance]

Gsc claire had lava

Yea

[tacit sphinx]

“The boulders fall from above next to people”

[bleak pine]

At least the guy in front tells you to put your following mon away before you go in

[golden lance]

Claire's gym is a zelda dungeon

[bleak pine]

Cause apparently the only acceptable risk is you falling in and being immolated

Not your partners

[tacit sphinx]

You know the funniest gym

Whitney’s gym

[golden lance]

Clef shaped

[bleak pine]

Whitney's funny like that

[tacit sphinx]

Until you work it out it’s boring

[bleak pine]

Just, no gimmicks

[tacit sphinx]

But yeah it’s a Clefairy

[bleak pine]

The gym's claim to fame is just being nicely decorated

Also that

Clef

Obligatory Ren shoutout

[tacit sphinx]

so btw

whitney, jasmine, or clair?

[golden lance]

Jasmine

[dawn skiff]

jasmine

[bleak pine]

Jasmine.

[tacit sphinx]

Jasmine is the nicest but Whitney do be having that red hair tho

[bleak pine]

Would be conflicted on Whitney being the better written character.

[dawn skiff]

choccy beginning to gain levels

[bleak pine]

But Clair just has like, anger and such

[tacit sphinx]

and Clair do be having that cape tho

[golden lance]

Bro if i wanted a cape person lance is right there

[bleak pine]

It's apparently a thing for dragon-type trainers to have capes

Seriously, what's with the capes?

[tacit sphinx]

You know why right

They all copy Lance

[bleak pine]

Kinda

Yeah

Lance is like, the OG

[tacit sphinx]

Well

I guess Drake or Drasna are both older

[bleak pine]

The dragon tamer that made capes "in" as it were with other dragon tamers

[golden lance]

Anyway

[tacit sphinx]

You know what’s funny

[golden lance]

Masters aside, when are we getting a gym leader dating sim

I need more wallace in my life

[bleak pine]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind like

A game that's just a life sim in the vein of Animal Crossing. Except, for Pokémon.

Just living life, day to day, with Pokémon

[tacit sphinx]

Pokemon Channel:

[golden lance]

Hear me out

Tag force

[bleak pine]

...Yeah, Channel was nice

Oh yes

Pokémon Tag Force

Exactly like Tag Force

[golden lance]

Again, masters does not count

[bleak pine]

Also yeah, when you think a bout it Lance really is more a Flying-type trainer

[tacit sphinx]

No

He trains dragons

Not Dragon-types

[golden lance]

Anyway

Best e4 member

Go

[bleak pine]

Yea, that is indeed true

Uh

Give me a sec

[tacit sphinx]

Which E4

[golden lance]

All of them

[bleak pine]

That's a hard one, hmm

[dawn skiff]

tough question

[tacit sphinx]

Lorelei
Karen
Phoebe
Aaron
Shauntal
Wikstrom
Can’t remember Gen 7
Can’t remember Gen 8
Larry

[bleak pine]

Honestly, for me it's probably either Bruno, or maybe Larry

[golden lance]

Cool, now pick one

: )

[bleak pine]

Bruno is a tough-as-nails martial artist, but he's just a great guy aside

Also yeah, p sure a lot of people will say Larry

He's just incredibly relatable.

[golden lance]

Anyway the answer is flint

[bleak pine]

As much as I don't like DPpT all that much, I will say, Flint's great

Everyone else in that Elite Four lineup is a literal 'who'

[golden lance]

Aaron slander smh

[bleak pine]

Bertha is at least a little notable. I think she was Agatha's younger sister? I think?

Related, at the least

[golden lance]

Also ngl, the kalos e4 is really underrated

[bleak pine]

Yes

[golden lance]

Malva was great, drasna was ok, wikstorm was decent

And then we have S i e b o l d

[bleak pine]

Malva makes no bones about her being an opperative of Team Flare, Wikstrom is a dude that just wears a suit of armor 24/7, Siebold is just Gordon Ramsay if he was a trainer, and Drasna is yet another cool old person

[golden lance]

Nah bro

Siebold is more like

Marco pierre

[bleak pine]

Ah

Yeah that makes more sense

[golden lance]

Also ngl

Grimsley is nice, too

[tacit sphinx]

Who even was the Elite Four in Alola and Galar

I have completely forgotten

[golden lance]

Galar didnt have one

Gen 7 depends on the game

[tacit sphinx]

Okay Alola then

[golden lance]

SM is like

[bleak pine]

In Alola, you have Hala, Olivia, Acerola and Kahi'li. Ultra Sun/Moon replaces Hala with Moylane

[golden lance]

Hala, olivia, acerola, and flying golf lady

[tacit sphinx]

I don’t remember any of these people

[golden lance]

Usum had the steel guy

[bleak pine]

And yeah, Galar doesn't have an Elite Four

[tacit sphinx]

Wait was Olivia the Rock lady

[golden lance]

Yes

[bleak pine]

Challenging the Champion is a matter of coming out on top in the Gym Leader Challenge

[tacit sphinx]

I remember her butt I don’t know why

🤔

[golden lance]

[bleak pine]

[dawn skiff]

solved the unown puzzle

first unown i come across is F

[tacit sphinx]

…why

It’s a Poison monotype

[dawn skiff]

training fodder

for my zubat

[tacit sphinx]

Fair

[dawn skiff]

bc this thing knows only leech life

which kills nothing else

also

hidden power ground

[tacit sphinx]

You know the funniest shit to me about Unown

It still has higher Attack

Like it’s got all stats 48 and then Atk and SpA are higher

[dawn skiff]

yeah

but it can't use it anymore

[tacit sphinx]

Both stats had to be high for Hidden Power

But

Yeah

Is anyone else lowkey desperate for an Unown fusion thing

[dawn skiff]

could move that to speed

[bleak pine]

Kinda

[tacit sphinx]

Like Wishiwashi but Unown swarm

[dawn skiff]

but also unown is not going to be good even with more speed

[tacit sphinx]

The whole “swarm of Unown has incredible power” thing keeps showing up

But it’s never been acted on

[bleak pine]

Also on Unown and Johto being alive

Radio Signals

It's just one of those things you see associated with Unown but never get much context on

[dawn skiff]

sprout tower time

[bleak pine]

Other than Unown just being odd

[dawn skiff]

choccy already doing work lol

especially with supersonic

[bleak pine]

I think the real purpose of the Radio signals is to encounter an Unown you don't have yet, but I could be wrong

[dawn skiff]

iirc the extra unown only exist in hoenn but idk

[tacit sphinx]

I think that’s an urban myth?

[bleak pine]

Ah

[tacit sphinx]

Ackshually

[bleak pine]

Could explain it

[tacit sphinx]

They first appeared in Sevii

and are in the Solaceon Ruins

[dawn skiff]

yeah

[golden lance]

You can use it to wake up snorlax

[bleak pine]

Alright, Bird Keepers, finally a good opponent for rock typ-

Sends out Pelliper

GODDAMMIT

Actually, it wasn't all that bad, but still, argh

[golden lance]

It's Hoenn babyy

[bleak pine]

Haaaate Water Pulse

[tacit sphinx]

You guys wanna know a weird thing I noticed btw

Have y’all realised that Wobbuffet is completely different between Gen 2 and the other games

[bleak pine]

Yeah, RSE had it's evil ability, Shadow Tag, I think?

[tacit sphinx]

No

Like

Personality

[bleak pine]

Ah

I think before it was like

They always kept their tail hidden

[tacit sphinx]

“It hates light and shock. If attacked, it inflates its body to pump up its counterstrike.”
“To keep its pitch-black tail hidden, it lives quietly in the darkness. It is never first to attack.”
“In order to conceal its black tail, it lives in a dark cave and only moves about at night.”

[bleak pine]

But RSE gave them a competitive personality, which had them try to outlast other Wobbuffet?

[tacit sphinx]

But more than that

Look at the sprites

[bleak pine]

Oh yeah

GSC Wobbuffet was just unsettling

[bleak pine]

Whereas RSE looked very bombastic

[tacit sphinx]

Not a single salute

And then we got the anime

[bleak pine]

You probably had the anime to thank for that

[tacit sphinx]

And WAAAAAAAABAFFET

[bleak pine]

https://tenor.com/view/wobbuffet-eat-pokemon-gif-5786097

[tacit sphinx]

The anime turned Wobbuffet from shy weird loner to extreme goofball

Notice how like after GSC every Wobbuffet sprite has the salute

[bleak pine]

Honestly, Pikachu isn't the winner here in what the anime made cool, it was Wobbuffet all along

Wobbuffet is just great. P much my favorite out of several

[tacit sphinx]

Silver Wobbuffet is so bizarre

It’s like

depressed

Also the only time the tail moves

[bleak pine]

Also, Wobbuffet in the anime is just hardcore

Took on Giratina

And still remained standing after taking a hard attack

[tacit sphinx]

Also Wobbuffet’s classification is the “Patient Pokemon”

Can you fucking imagine

anime/post-RSE Wobbuffet

as patient

[bleak pine]

Wobbuffet just know's that it's gonna outlast you

That's the whole 'patient' thing

[golden lance]

Silver wobbufet looks like a zombie

[bleak pine]

The tail also just looks ahead, cementing that there is in fact a secret hidden in it

[tacit sphinx]

You know the fun thing about it btw

Wobbuffet is number 3

The ranking for most appearances in the Pokemon anime goes: Pikachu, Meowth, Wobbuffet

Not bad

[bleak pine]

Even in the games though, that tail seems to poke from behind Wobbuffet, as if it's looking to see what's going on in front of Wobbuffet

Yeee

[golden lance]

And then gen 5 happened

[bleak pine]

Even Mystery dungeon gets in on Wobbuffet being weird

[void herald]

i think the implication with wobbuffet is supposed to be that the blue part is vestigial and the tail is the main body

[bleak pine]

In a world where mons are capable of speech, all Wobbuffet says is just

"Wobbuffet!"

[golden lance]

Blue part is a decoy disguised as a punching bag, ye

[bleak pine]

Yeah. Could be both, much like Girafarig, but the tail could be the one actually calling the shots

https://tenor.com/view/ソーナンス-wobbuffet-sonansu-gif-22337354

Also, funny running

[golden lance]

oh btw

idk if i mentioned here before

@random stream got it to work

[bleak pine]

Ayyy nice

[random stream]

[dawn skiff]

olkay beat the tower

falkner might be a slight issue

since my gastly can't attaxck him

and two of my pokes are weak to flying

then again he's not hard

oh god damn it

i forgot unown can flee

[tacit sphinx]

This ought to be good

[dawn skiff]

this specifric one is also immune to supersonic ig

[tacit sphinx]

Hey Suzaku

Quick question for you

What are Poison’s weaknesses

[dawn skiff]

psychic, ground and uhhh

[tacit sphinx]

Hey Suzaku?

What do both of Falkner’s mons have?

[dawn skiff]

dosen't this fuck have mud slap

like that's his tm iirc

[tacit sphinx]

Yep

[dawn skiff]

thank god uhh

spinarak is neutral to ground then ig

iirc

[golden lance]

he is

[tacit sphinx]

It’s a Flying gym

[dawn skiff]

yes

[golden lance]

but yea

[tacit sphinx]

So

He’ll use Gust?

[dawn skiff]

it'd be great if gastly learned a move that could hit normals

[tacit sphinx]

Literally I hope your Zubat can carry

Because hoo boy

[dawn skiff]

might have to cheese the shit out of this

i do have hypnosis

[tacit sphinx]

Oh wait

Zubat right

So

Its only attacking move

is resisted Leech Life

[dawn skiff]

yes

[tacit sphinx]

Have fun Su

[dawn skiff]

might overtrain slightly

to try to just outspeed him and cheese

[tacit sphinx]

Give it a shot at level 9 imo

Like try not to overlevel

[dawn skiff]

i'm at level 9

had a scare with that spearow

if that tells you anything

this wouldn't be a problem

if gastly learned an attacking move that could hit normals

then again it's weak to ground so 🗿

[golden lance]

ngl

replaying games with one time only tms kinda suck

[dawn skiff]

rn my team is level 10

okay

i'll finish this and call it a night

oh cool

immediately woke up

cool i lose

restarting now

STOP WAKING UP

Okay pidgeotto has insomnia

ilose again

[tacit sphinx]

Would you say it’s an

early bird

[dawn skiff]

hey it's a slaughter bird

STOP

WAKING UP

I lose again

i lose again

who programmed own tempo and early bird into this thing

i lose again

had a chance but it crit

[golden lance]

ok so

i'll admit

i didn't look at the fighting mon pool before beginning the challenge

[dawn skiff]

he's not using mud slap at all

not that it matters

[golden lance]

i now realize that i dont like a single mon that i can get

so uhh

change of plans

[dawn skiff]

gave my pokes berries

see if this helps

YES

I BEAT HIS ASS

i got a lucky poison

and stallled him

wait

can't i find nidoran on one of these upcoming routes

[golden lance]

Hmmm

Considering doing mono bug in gen 7

I like golisopod

And vikavolt

[spice rivet]

Finally got my first of the Hisui starter as a Shiny Alpha! Its a Shiny Alpha Quillava. 2 more to go, then I can start focusing on the other Hisuian forms again

[bleak pine]

Alright, went and cut through the East side of Hoenn

Weather institute invasion was halted, defeated Brendan without Summer exploding and had Dek just use his fun grass powers to Giga Drain his Marshtomp, and made it to Fortree City

...I was gonna skip ahead and go to the Safari Zone, but apparently this friggin' Bird Catcher doesn't want me to without doing Fortree City Gym and I'm pissed cause this wasn't in RSE

Argh

Anyways

Update

Dodrio used Acupressure!
Dodrio's evasiveness sharply rose!

Oh goddammit

ok nevermind Choccy just nailed it with Stone Edge anyways. Somehow

[tacit sphinx]

yeah winona is completely skippable in rse iirc

[bleak pine]

Well, whatever, this'll be a shutout victory against her with a bunch of unga-bunga rocks

Just throw out Stealth Rock and throw more rocks

Oh come on, now I keep missing when they use Double Team

Summer nearly got KO'd by Pelliper, but she held on and unga-bunga'd it too

Aight, time to fight Altaria.

...Ohhh god it knows Cotton Guard. This might take awhile-

"A critical hit!"

neeeevermind.

Alllright, this dumb gym is done, time to finally get to the Safari Zone to catch more rocks

Oh yeah, gonna pick up Hidden Power and see what Hidden Power we got

Only relevant for Raz and Dek, but eh

...Ooookay, Raz has Dragon-type.

Interesting

And Dek's type is Electric for Hidden Power. Hmm

Yessssss, Summer learned Earthquake

Alright, finally in the Safari Zone

oooh god a horde battle

I forgot these existed

woah holy shit, I found a Heracross.

Normally would catch it, but alas, challenge run

...Wait a second

DAMMIT I FORGOT THE MACH BIKE

Alright, after a 10 minute return trip I'm back to finally round out the team to 6

Heard stores on how this was their first card, or at least, Rhypherior was so

@placid junco You are Rhyhorn! (But do lemme know if you don't wish it so)

And holy shit Copper knows Dragon Rush

Calling it tonight, but updates:

Dek: Finally evolved into Cradlily. Still my answer to most anything a rock-type would have problems with, being a grass-type.
Summer: Still wrecks stuff. All good in the world.
Ren: Soooo close to evolution. And Mega Evolution. But I'm wondering if this is allowed given Mega Aggron loses out on being a rock type when it mega evolves. Still a chad on defense
Choccy: PRAISE THE SUN
Raz: With Dek, the only Rock-Type that uses Special Attacks. Would really like to find some Special Attacks for her that are Steel-type soon, but still takes the hits very well
Zane: In the Daycare. Just, felt like I missed that boat on having Magmacargo. Sorry
Copper: Oh, I have so much fun ideas with a Rhyhorn. Sadly I can't have Rhypherior since the item required to have one is all the way in Battle Resort, but it's no big loss since Rhydon is still very great.

[random stream]

E4 was smooth, did quiver dance into sweep for all 4

about to battle N soon

[dawn skiff]

Caught an Ekans

[vocal torrent]

🐍

[dawn skiff]

Hmm who should I name it after

Ah fuck it

Team composition

[dawn skiff]

Griff finally learned a poison move lol

[dawn skiff]

okay facing uhh

the bug gym now

main issue will be his scyther

[random stream]

Good luck gamer

[dawn skiff]

oh a paras

kek

facing the gym trainers rn

what level is his stuff usually

oh

a kakuna

time to be here forever

barely won against bugsy

damned fury cutter

[random stream]

@outer eagle It's ghetsis into N fight right? Or is it vice versa

[slate marlin]

Um, quick question? What type is Whitney?

[dawn skiff]

normal

[outer eagle]

N into Ghetsis

[slate marlin]

I lost against her Miltank in SS.

Wait, is that her game?

[dawn skiff]

damn a slowpoke

would have caught it if not for the run i'm doing

[slate marlin]

Why? What's up with your run?

[dawn skiff]

mono poison

[slate marlin]

Poison only, no?

[dawn skiff]

yeah

[slate marlin]

But why?

[dawn skiff]

wanted to try something diff since i've played the game a few times before

[slate marlin]

Oh.

[placid junco]

I really need to finish my bug only run of Y

[dawn skiff]

i think i'm about to get to the second Silver match

[slate marlin]

On the bright side, I beat her on the rematch.

I've never finished a game though...

[random stream]

I just realized chili cilan and cress didnt interfere w team blasma when the gym leaders rallied

[swift jasper]

yeah they're cringe

[warm sky]

It's a popular theory they're the shadow triad

[golden lance]

Don't they start to plan resignation when the protag beats them?

[outer eagle]

they deemed themselves too weak so they intentionally stayed behind iirc from the Memory Link event

then they got their asses kicked by the Shadow Triad

[warm sky]

Even tho yeah link memory stuff disconfirns it

[outer eagle]

which led to their resignation yes

[dawn skiff]

training claf

[random stream]

Oh rip

[golden lance]

Also ngl

[random stream]

poor bastards

[golden lance]

Kinda forgot how long it takes for me to be start catching mons

In gen 7

[outer eagle]

Lenora quitted to focus on her museum and she was pregnant iirc

[dawn skiff]

i know silver's second battle has a gastly and uhhh

the starter

[outer eagle]

Brycen is obvious

[slate marlin]

For some weird reason, R4 doesn't seem to play Pokemon B&W...

Weird.

[dawn skiff]

okay his gastly

[random stream]

Brycen became a movie star

[dawn skiff]

killed gastly

yami's on zubat duty

and then Renren faces the totodile

okay, croconaw duty

[random stream]

[dawn skiff]

easily beat croconaw

ren is two levels ahead of the team 🗿

ilex forest time

are there any weedles in this forest

yes

[random stream]

@outer eagle clef took out 4 of N's mons

Roast got crit mega kicked

Ghetsis is now 5v6

[dawn skiff]

oof

[random stream]

The final battle, vs Aleister the mfing Invoker

[dawn skiff]

don't let him normal summon

[dawn skiff]

also jeb evolved

[random stream]

Halfmiss got off a crit poison with gunk shot what a hero

Ghetsis was insane @outer eagle he had slaking and pure power shell bell machamp

Slaking got a crit hammer arm off on solar, but Halfmiss (rip) the hero crit poisoned slaking

Dek and solar died to machamp

serene grace Muddy water accuracy drop and lava plume burned clutched because his scrafty had sacred sword

Only misty and Millie survived

Bruh juniper gives you tms? I never knew

Got a superpower and an incinerate

[bleak pine]

Cool!

[bleak pine]

Remembering the fallen

[outer eagle]

i was showering til now so congrats kid

[random stream]

Another successful cleflocke

[dawn skiff]

damned normal types and their immunity to lick

also congrats

[random stream]

Somehow she always pulls through even though she learns no level up moves

thank both

[outer eagle]

fat do be fat

[random stream]

Flash fire unironically gave me a lot of free turns to get QD

at least once then it starts snowballing

[outer eagle]

oh your Clef has QD as well?

[random stream]

Yeah she swept marshall and 4 of N's mons

[outer eagle]

[random stream]

Item always ended up being none but it's Water Gem

The only other mon that stayed alive and clutched the final fight

my team was like 4 quiver dancers, a physical sand stream scarfer and a physical sand rush user

[outer eagle]

Rotom coming in clutch

them 6 movepools and abilities

[random stream]

Mobile wont let me tag her fsr but thanks for carrying, misty

[bleak pine]

Man, Lava Plume must be friggin' evil

Hits everything on the field and has a 30% chance of inflicting burn

[outer eagle]

his Rotom has Serene Grace

so 60%

that's why he ran Lava Plume and Discharge over Tbolt and Flamethrower

[bleak pine]

Holy shit

If it had Air Slash too, that'd just be too vile.

[random stream]

[bleak pine]

Actually, if you made Rotom into Rotom-Fan, wouldn't it learn it?

Or would that also just be a random move?

[random stream]

Yeah but I cant keep air slash if I change formes

Only wash has serene grace

[dawn skiff]

Claf might get boxed

Idk tho uhhhh

Are there any new poisons around goldenrod

Oh Nidoran

@vocal torrent

[vocal torrent]

owo!

Am Nidoran♂️

[dawn skiff]

[bleak pine]

https://tenor.com/view/nidoran-pokemon-bye-gif-27576825

⬆️ Ray

[dawn skiff]

training ray lol

wait ray has double kick

time to bash in whitney's gym trainers

Ray is sweeping these gym trainers

@vocal torrent

[slate marlin]

Congrats.

[dawn skiff]

Damn it

Emulator reset on me

Now I gotta recatch ray

I think this might have just ruined any mood to continue today

[bleak pine]

Aw dammit, I gotta do a battle against this trainer with a Milotic

At least Dek's got this, hopefully

You're gonna run out of PP for Recover eventually

I can wait all day

And Confuse Ray just waste its turn and Dek finishes up with Giga Drain

[random stream]

@outer eagle I was talking to millie and she brought up a good point

current Kashtira is like the landorus-therian of ygo

[bleak pine]

Alright, putting this up to vote since I'm unsure myelf

I can Mega-Evolve Aggron in spite of it losing out on it's rock-typing when it does so, yes?

Not that this is gonna be too relevant, since I did make the stipulation that I'll do so only if my opponent is also capable of it

[random stream]

Indeed

[bleak pine]

Righto.

[outer eagle]

should have just played Mono-Steel and show Steven who's the actual steel master

[bleak pine]

Naw.

[outer eagle]

except Lando doesn't really do anything unfair

[bleak pine]

Much more fun to prove that

The toughness and perfection of steel < Unga Bunga

[outer eagle]

hey Lando has role compression sure

but that's the extent of it

[random stream]

well we mostly talked about it in the context of "it's the best deck but it's very beatable as the best deck"

Let me get the screencap thats relevant

[bleak pine]

Yeah, as much as Landorus is a tough guy, it's still at least somewhat fair.

[random stream]

[bleak pine]

Seems about right

[outer eagle]

i really wanna be pedantic and ask "when has a best deck ever been truly unbeatable?" but i'll hold off on that

[bleak pine]

Alright, gonna take on Brendan once more cause he's rude and won't let me do some excessive spending at the dept. store

[random stream]

Yeah, ofc it's not a true 1 to 1 but it's a funny observation

like if we are to compare both purr and shs are like way more difficult to stop and are extremely oppressive

Even that cyberse yolo pile is too.

We were like "ish tear was kinda like flutter mane"

[snow oasis]

actually a beatable best deck is a Blue-Eyes

Mercy is an overwatch character

[outer eagle]

inb4 they introduce Pokemon Fusion in gen 10 and we can have Great-Therian

[bleak pine]

Alright, time to take on Swampert.

HOUSE PLANT DEK VS. THE PERT

[snow oasis]

HE DOESNT KNOW

[random stream]

Landorus-Tusk

Griff you died to a crit stone edge from drayden's omastar

rest in power

[bleak pine]

Yeeep, Dek just one-shotted Swampert

[outer eagle]

what was griff again?

[bleak pine]

At this current point in time I haven't had a healthier respect for anything in the world than Cradlily

[outer eagle]

yanma?

[bleak pine]

Griff if I remember was Heracross in Raz' bug-type run

[snow oasis]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/324228812986384384/1040141829699538944/nyaruhododust.gif

[outer eagle]

cradily has a really good defensive typing

[bleak pine]

I don't got anything named Griff yet

[outer eagle]

strong ability

and decent stats all around

[bleak pine]

Ehhh... Suction Cups isn't amazing

[outer eagle]

it has Storm Drain

[bleak pine]

Maybe you're thinking of it's hidden ability

Ah

[outer eagle]

as the other ability

yeah

problem is nothing it does is particularly amazing

[vocal torrent]

Owo

[outer eagle]

it's decent in everything, but not great at anything

[bleak pine]

Honestly, the two most deadly foes so far are just Breloon, and Camerupt

[snow oasis]

Breloom goes hard

[random stream]

Cradily is good because everything else is weak to water

[bleak pine]

https://tenor.com/view/natcrozma-gif-27222623

Yeah, it's why I picked Lileep!

Anorith was tempting, but that grass-typing was too good to pass on

[snow oasis]

Breloom has so few tools but the few tools it has are the exact right ones it needs

[outer eagle]

me when i have insomnia

[snow oasis]

-Spore
-130 Attack
-Priority
-Great abilities

[bleak pine]

Breloom just does mushroom things and punches things super hard.

All it needs

[outer eagle]

not even sure lorewise why i mushroom has that much atk

[bleak pine]

It's why mons from Hoenn are so great

[random stream]

Loaded dice is doing loom wonders right now

[bleak pine]

You got a stubby mushroom fella that evolves into a boxing kangaroo-mushroom thing

[outer eagle]

hoenns have some great highs

[bleak pine]

Annnd that's a win against Brendan

Jeez, Omegaruby goes all in when it comes to the Meteorite

Everyone's like "Hey, something shiny in your bag? Is that like, a meteorite from space?"

Just, tell me it's gonna be a MacGuffin without telling me it's a MacGuffin

Alright, time I friggin' finally delete Rock Smash from Ren's moveset

Playing this game's really made me miss all those quality of life features Scarlet/Violet had

[outer eagle]

they really made the internet myth of riding Mossdeep's space shuttle to encounter Deoxys into reality

[bleak pine]

Buying a few Poke Dolls

I could have chosen the Fluffy Tail or Poke Toy

But Clef

[outer eagle]

just use Smoke Ball or something

[bleak pine]

P sure I can't get one unless I catch a Koffing or go to that one route with all the currents

yesssssssss, TM's

Buying Stone Edge fo'sho

Doing the same for Reflect and Light Screen

[crimson moat]

Smoke ball is always a trick house item

[bleak pine]

Ah, gotcha

Might need to do Trick House stuff, haven't been there in awhile

[outer eagle]

ah yeah, trick house

i have fond memories of doing those puzzles

[bleak pine]

Oh shoot, the Clearance Sale is on

[outer eagle]

altho completing everything and sending the Trick Master away was kinda melancholic weirdly enough

[bleak pine]

...Oh

Only Secret Base stuff

Bleh

Ayyyy got an extra Lemonade

Honestly, out of all cities, Lilycove is just great

Always loved coastal towns, and the music is nice

[outer eagle]

i probably love Mauville the most in terms of ORAS

[warm sky]

In what way

Oh nvm read it

[random stream]

most used as it's reliable, as the best mon / best deck but it's sort of tame in a way is the tldr

[random stream]

Can finally tag you kid, you carried pretty hard at the late game @lucid moth

saved the run

you and clef were the only ones left alive

[lucid moth]

washtom with qd

[random stream]

you had 60% burn 60% para and 40% acc drop

[bleak pine]

Laaaava Plume

[dawn skiff]

Retraining raydhen

[snow oasis]

it's a kangaroo

kangaroo punch goes hard

literally

hot take @random stream: Breloom should have Bounce since it's a kangaroo

[sand forge]

[warm sky]

Skill issue

[bleak pine]

UPDATES

New things here is Copper evolved to Rhydon. I now got a good use for the Evolite

Summer learned Explosion. I might just disrespect Maxie this way.

And I outfitted Ren with the Aggronite.

[snow oasis]

is this a mono-Rock run

[bleak pine]

That it is!

[spice rivet]

https://youtu.be/ZQs_9ystWxc

The GOAT is back babyyy

[bleak pine]

I really want to replay Black2/White2 again

Been sooooo long

[warm sky]

CHUGGOAT

[bleak pine]

https://tenor.com/view/chugga-gif-11096831

[placid junco]

the best in the business is back at it

and this time I can watch the whole thing because I wanna play paper mario blind

[mighty storm]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-anime-power-sorcery-gif-17531449

[bleak pine]

Yep

Man, this rock-type run is fun

Wondering there is other types and game combinations to have some good times with

Would love an excuse to have like, a Teddiursa to rely on

[tacit sphinx]

man

fisher ralph has a depressing life

[void herald]

[tacit sphinx]

Alright y’all wanna hear my giga money farming tip

For GSC

[golden lance]

Sure

[bleak pine]

Sure thing~

[bleak pine]

Had a stupid idea to like

Design Gym Leader castle sets for Gym Leaders, RSE onwards

Just for fun really

Hardest part would be keeping it somewhat true to what Stadium did, which is to say, avert Gym Leaders at all being perdictable

There was situations in which you had them use mons that were not the type they usually specialized in, like Brock having a Pinsir in Stadium 2, Whitney having a Donphan, and a few others

[random stream]

man pro players are a different breed, Tera ICE assault vest offensive great tusk
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1849625912-dn00vm5sq8fvxat4kafpsm6i462udr2pw

it's a good thing libero cinderace was fast enough to clutch the win

[maiden flax]

The biggest difference with pro players and non-pro players is that the pro players know the game well enough to be able to run wild sets cause they understand the reasoning behind the set

[random stream]

Yeah it's likely there for a good reason. I don't want to think about it too much though

252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Fairy Iron Valiant Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tera Ice Great Tusk: 326-384 (75.1 - 88.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

it's fine we won

[random stream]

I'm surprised he threw a third of his team vs av pex though

sludge bomb spam nyaruhodo

[maiden flax]

Av pex goes hard lol

[bleak pine]

Knowing what you're doing and doing it well is the height of skill!

Or something like that.

I'm no Sun Tsu

[tacit sphinx]

@golden lance @bleak pine the S.S. Aqua isn’t once a day

It travels between Vermillion and Olivine on certain days

So you can board it

[bleak pine]

Oho?

[tacit sphinx]

then go back to the starting city

get on again

fight everyone again

Money + EXP for free four times a week

[bleak pine]

So, you just sorta, get on the ship, arrive to your destination, get back there again and it's just there?

[golden lance]

[bleak pine]

That's one hell of a captain for him to get that thing there in such a timely manner in Olivine City

[tacit sphinx]

It’s a fun oversight

Removed in HGSS sadly but

[bleak pine]

Aw

holy shit Ren's damn huge in Pokémon-Amie

Bottom screen only showed Aggron's lower body, and I gotta select a puff to give them the pats

Also, didn't have the 'monch' sound when eating a puff, but a very hard "CRUNCH"

[tacit sphinx]

now i can evolve scyther

[bleak pine]

A Metal Coat for Halfmiss' Metal Coat

[tacit sphinx]

I love the GSC Vermillion City theme

[bleak pine]

I dunno why but GSC soundfont is just spot-on

[tacit sphinx]

It’s really impressive that they took an upbeat theme like Vermillion and made it calming

https://youtu.be/B4u0FAJIvwg

[bleak pine]

Took the admittedly a little grating music of RBGY and turned it to that yeah

...That man's house is never gonna be finished, however.

That Machop is gonna be there awhile.

[tacit sphinx]

lmao i love gsc pokemon sprites

[random stream]

ma'am that's an oddish

[bleak pine]

The sprites are just nice

I loved how they had an odd appearance as mosaic art in Scarlet/Violet

Can't remember the town, but they were all over the place where you had a Gym Battle

[tacit sphinx]

As soon as they stopped naming towns after colours my memory for them dropped off a cliff

I can barely remember RSE and DPP town names even

[bleak pine]

It might take awhile for the memory to stick

[tacit sphinx]

Symph I grew up with those games

[bleak pine]

I mean, for me I mean, sorry

[crimson moat]

Gen 1-4 I remember well, gen 5 I get some town names mixed up

[tacit sphinx]

okay let me try gen 3

[bleak pine]

I guess I tend to remember older locations since they tend to have somewhat easy to remember themes behind them, like say, Lilycove, Sandgem and Castelia.

[crimson moat]

Only ones I remember gen 6 are the ones whose music I like

[bleak pine]

I can't really remember those towns in Paldea all too well, but I guess it's cause they're fairly new to me is all

Artazon seems to stick out to me though

Mostly cause it sounds so much like Arizona

[tacit sphinx]

Littleroot
Oldoak
Petalburg
Rusturf
Dewford
Seaport
Mawville
Vendanberg?
Fallarbor
Lavaridge
Lilycove
Mosstree
Pacifilog
Fortree
Sootopolis

[bleak pine]

Pretty correct all around, only a few spelling errors

[tacit sphinx]

Gen 1 and 2 though

Those are easy

[bleak pine]

Only missed Ever Grande City

[tacit sphinx]

Gen 1, colours
Gen 2, wood

[bleak pine]

Though, if I'm being honest, it barely counts as a City, let alone a location

It's just all flowers and waterfalls

[golden lance]

9/15

Not bad

[bleak pine]

Pacifilog Town just sounds like either a wonderful or really shitty place to live

[outer eagle]

i can probably name every city in Emerald and BW/2

[bleak pine]

I guess it depends on how much you like the ocean and how much you won't miss modern ammenities

[outer eagle]

cuz i have played those games enough times to imprint even the map into me

[bleak pine]

Same

Well, Emerald I mean

[tacit sphinx]

I love how canonically this is like the only time the protagonist speaks out loud

[crimson moat]

For Unova I can probably name every one but I get some of their locations mixed up

[bleak pine]

Ay, Copycat!

[golden lance]

So for completeness sake:
Oldoak is Oldale
Rusturf is the name of a cave, city is called Rustboro
Mawville is Mauville
Verdanberg is Verdanturf
Mostree is Mossdeep
And Pacifilog is Pacifidlog

[outer eagle]

damn imagine walking up to someone and introducing yourself with "Hi! You must like Pokemon."

[tacit sphinx]

Can I show you guys an important thing

[bleak pine]

Sure!

[random stream]

Littleroot Oldale Rustboro Petalburg Dewford Slateport Mauville Verdanturf Fortree Mt.Chimney Fallarbor Lilycove Mossdeep Sootopolis Ever Grande City

[golden lance]

In a world where trespassing is morally acceptable, idk it's that bad

[tacit sphinx]

Kanto sightseeing: one of the two routes with Murkrow

[crimson moat]

Usually, it’s mixing up the placement of Lacunosa and Accumula

[outer eagle]

accumula is a town anyways

[bleak pine]

...Yeah, I dunno what they were thinking with some introductions for new mons here either

[outer eagle]

same for Lacunosa

[bleak pine]

Murkrow is just one of many

[random stream]

Pacifidlog too yeah

[outer eagle]

so you won't have to name them

[bleak pine]

Gets funnier cause some mons you can encounter in Johto, you can't find at all there. You gotta hoof it to Kanto to find them

Stuff like Sneasel, Murkrow, Slugma, and Houndour.

Even friggin' Pikachu.

[tacit sphinx]

I mean, in Crystal Sneasel is earlier

But yeah

[golden lance]

Society if you could get dark types in johto

[kind vortex]

gen 2 was the first gen where they were adding new mons onto the existing base, so i can forgive them for their screwups in new mon distribution, somewhat

[tacit sphinx]

In GS it’s technically implied that Silver managed to sneak his way into Kanto

[bleak pine]

Little bit.

[random stream]

society if johto trainers had johto gym leaders had johto mons

[bleak pine]

They tried fixing this a little in HG/SS

[random stream]

[bleak pine]

There's a new side area next to Cianwood Town where you can find Misdreavus

[outer eagle]

aspertia, flocessy (town), virbank, castelia, nimbasa, driftveil, mistralton, icirrus, opelucid, lacunosa (town), undella (town), black city, humilau, nacrene, striaton, nuvema (town)

[bleak pine]

And there's the actual Safari Zone where you can catch a lot of stuff you'd have to wait a long time for in GSC

[tacit sphinx]

Anyway right now I’m kinda milling about Kanto

[golden lance]

Isnt flocessy just a ranch?

[tacit sphinx]

Should I do it in original order?

[outer eagle]

there is a town b4 the ranch too

where Alder met you

[bleak pine]

Just follow your heart Raz!

Whatever you wanna do in Kanto

[golden lance]

I see

[tacit sphinx]

Yeah but like

Should I do something like Brock then Misty etc.

[golden lance]

Ngl i forgot that town existed, you spend a total of 30 seconds there

[outer eagle]

oh yeah

[tacit sphinx]

or should I go for order encountered, ie Surge then Sabrina and so on

[outer eagle]

i almost forgot

[bleak pine]

But then again, I'd say hitting up the gyms in RBG order would be alright

[outer eagle]

Anville (town)

impressive that even i almost forgot something gen 5

[golden lance]

Ngl

Looking back

[mighty storm]

Im about to start up a monobug run of scarlet

[golden lance]

Gen 7 were genuinely good games

Despite their glaring flaws

[tacit sphinx]

Copycat

[bleak pine]

Summer gonna make their own Kamen Rider team

[outer eagle]

gen 7 has some great highs but also deep lows

[mighty storm]

wanna see what mons available for the first route

[bleak pine]

There's Spidops and Scatterbug I know

[tacit sphinx]

Spidops carry

[golden lance]

Yo raz guess what i'm doing in usum?

[tacit sphinx]

Why are y’all doing Bug

[bleak pine]

Well, not Spidops but rather, Tarountula

[golden lance]

I like golisopod

[golden lance]

Only reason really

[bleak pine]

Yarn Spoder and ugly worm-thing

[mighty storm]

alternatively, I could do ghost

[bleak pine]

Could be doable

[golden lance]

Was planning on doing fighting

[bleak pine]

Gastly can be caught early

And I suppose you can keep Fuecoco

[golden lance]

But the gen 7 pool is uhhh

Mid at best for me

[mighty storm]

or team sky (But sadly can't transfer my shiny birbs yet )

[golden lance]

Like there's uhhhh

Pangoro?

Blaziken?

[mighty storm]

I have a shiny oricorio

[bleak pine]

Well, there's Crabrawler

But good friggin' luck keeping it

[golden lance]

I am sorry but crabominable is one of the ugliest mons ever made

[bleak pine]

You can also catch a Makuhita early on, so there's that

[golden lance]

Yea, most pure fighting mon designs are kinda whatever to me

[bleak pine]

SUBALUWA

[golden lance]

Like, oh cool machamp,

[mighty storm]

oricorio is one of the coolest shinies

[bleak pine]

Ok but

Machamp

Cinnamon Roll

Seriously

https://tenor.com/view/good-pokemon-machamp-thumbs-up-good-job-gif-5285961

[tacit sphinx]

Yo I got Hidden Power TMs
Now I can get STAB on my Bug Pokemon

[golden lance]

Non game machamp is cool

Games machamp is just meh

[mighty storm]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/international-pokedex/images/5/55/Oricorio_(Gen_VII%3B_Shiny).png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/304?cb=20190414101008

very pretty birb

[bleak pine]

I see No Guard and Dynamicpunch and just break out into some primal fury knowing I can click it and just hit 100% of the time

[random stream]

Makuhita is nice

[bleak pine]

It's just thrilling, really

[random stream]

Hariyama is such a carry

[bleak pine]

DOSUKOI

[random stream]

probs my favorite fighting type

[crimson moat]

It’s a town in the game too. What’s really bizzare is that it is supposed to be based on Newark

[mighty storm]

fighting gen 9 run lets you use THE BOI

[tacit sphinx]

@golden lance did i tell you the story of crabrawler

for me

[golden lance]

No

[bleak pine]

Ooooh

[mighty storm]

oops

[tacit sphinx]

When I first played Moon, I caught a Crabrawler

[bleak pine]

yeaaaa plain text

[mighty storm]

https://cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/diarioas/JP3KVW72A5N6DJEM7FT3BNPES4.jpg

[tacit sphinx]

I heard it evolved at this place right

[bleak pine]

And yeah

Primeape just becomes Akuma

[tacit sphinx]

I didn’t know how far along in the game it was

So I kept Crabrawler in my team

for the entire game

[bleak pine]

...Oh dear

[crimson moat]

Like of all the tri state references gen 5 pulls, Floccesy being based on Newark is by far the biggest stretch

[bleak pine]

Oooooh no

[golden lance]

Btw kidda the run is mono bug now

[bleak pine]

Ohhh man, I'm sorry Raz

[golden lance]

Know that one

[bleak pine]

Yeah, Mount Lanakila just suuuuuuuucks

[golden lance]

I had a charjabug

Not the same extent but

[tacit sphinx]

Yeah I caught this one uh

God

About level 7?

[golden lance]

But yea ngl

Most fighting mon designs are just kinda plain

[tacit sphinx]

I’m curious now

Just for you all

I am getting my copy of Moon

and seeing what level this thing is

[mighty storm]

dlc cant come soon enough, second half adds another cat

[random stream]

Sounds good choc

[bleak pine]

KITTY

[mighty storm]

and ||minior|| is in the dlc

[bleak pine]

I love how the first half really ties into the aesthetic that The Teal Mask goes for

You got mons like Ninetales, Shiftry, Chimecho...

[mighty storm]

and the second half has a Kanto reference

[tacit sphinx]

I didn’t actually bring it with me when I moved

[mighty storm]

Indigo Disk, dewgong is used in the Indigo Plataeu

[tacit sphinx]

Dewgong

[mighty storm]

slight typo

[mighty storm]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pkmn-anipoke-pokeani-pokemon-anime-gif-19902949

[golden lance]

Ngl i need a 1:1 sized clodsire plush

[tacit sphinx]

||i actually dislike clodsire||

[mighty storm]

https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?siteId=7575&v=2&jpgQuality=100&width=700&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F002%2F492%2F420%2Fe65.jpg

[golden lance]

Why's that?

[tacit sphinx]

It’s petty bullshit but

[golden lance]

johto bias?

[tacit sphinx]

I have a bit of a dislike for super specialised stat spreads on mons in new gens

[golden lance]

Ah

Fair

[tacit sphinx]

Clodsire is just “superior Quagsire” and I think it’s a bit bland

[golden lance]

My favorite mon is quag but i think clod works better as a big plush

Quag is huggable, but i could just throw myself on top of a clod

So y'know

[tacit sphinx]

…Huh.

I just found an error in GSC.

Like, one I never noticed before.

[golden lance]

Do tell

[mighty storm]

dachsund was a better evo then I expected for fidough

[outer eagle]

i mean Lugia and Skarm were gen 2 creations

[tacit sphinx]

This guard is a sign

[outer eagle]

when it comes to specialized stat spreads

[golden lance]

Huh

[mighty storm]

dachsbun I meant

[golden lance]

I guess its because you cant directly interact with the guard?

[mighty storm]

https://img.pokemondb.net/sprites/scarlet-violet/normal/dachsbun.png

who's a good girl

[golden lance]

But then there's the pokemon center nurse that works normally

How odd

[tacit sphinx]

I think they maybe just forgot to edit the text

Like in a beta it was just a sign marking the start of Cycling Road

Or a very tired translator mistook the guard’s text for a sign’s text without context

[golden lance]

Interesting

Btw

Have i told here why quag is my favorite mon?

[outer eagle]

hello bigant

[golden lance]

?

[mighty storm]

I wish we had more kinds of shellos

[outer eagle]

wooper is smallant's favorite pokemon

it's just a meme

[golden lance]

Who?

[outer eagle]

arguably one of the biggest gaming youtubers rn

[mighty storm]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LiT3R85VUPw

[tacit sphinx]

BEHOLD
THE ONLY PROOF SLUGMA EXISTS

[void herald]

ah yes, my favorite pokemon, ligma

[sand forge]

I always thought the SS Anne sunk for some reason

[outer eagle]

probably mixed up with Sea Mauville

[warm sky]

Well Tulip almost sweeped me

But I lost two of my mons still

[sand forge]

[dawn skiff]

[warm sky]

[dawn skiff]

Continuing my mono poison journey

[void herald]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/507388259165536263/1099728104731189288/ayhz55khvmva1.webp?width=750&height=662

[outer eagle]

hate buying is still buying so good enough

[mighty storm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuYuaGZXwAACeRm?format=jpg&name=large

[bleak pine]

Stiiiiil waiting

[flat sedge]

Early could mean in the first 49% of the year

If even

[bleak pine]

This Rock-type run has given me so much new respect for mons like Golem, Cradily and a few others

[flat sedge]

Cradily is a beast

[bleak pine]

Funny sea lily

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cradily-pokémon-cradily-wild-life-gif-26750261

[vagrant steppe]

Honestly how has it taken them so long for Home support

That should be like super easy to set up

[bleak pine]

Seems they got the worst scheduling for this kinda stuff

It took a good long while for Bank support to arrive for XY and later Sun/Moon

[vagrant steppe]

It shouldn't be hard to enable, and honestly should have just launched with the games?

[bleak pine]

Unsure of the logistics of it myself. Likely has to do with making absolutely sure nothing goes wrong when storing and transferring

HOME stores a lot of Mons, so something catastrophic happening could ruin the whole experience for many

At least that’s my guess, there may be other reasons

[golden lance]

The bdsp incident

[crimson moat]

I mean Bank for XY took 3 months iirc

A lot shorter than BDSP

Yeah XY released in October and Bank was mostly up by mid January

Sun and moon was the same deal, up by January

Home for SwSh was about the same amount of time, November to February

BDSP was from November to May

So… no it has been getting worse

This has been for SV, November to April at the least

[dawn skiff]

Facing Whitney in my run

Damn it Ray stop simping over miltank

Take 2

Beat her with Ray

[latent sleet]

https://youtu.be/ZQs_9ystWxc

LADS WAKE UP NEW CHUGGA POKEMON SERIES

[warm sky]

Yep!

[swift jasper]

this is a boxing bag