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bleak pine
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I'm beginning to realize how friggin' awful fighting a water-type is for everyone

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Nobody except Raz and I guess Choccy has good Sp. Def, most water-types work off a sp.atk stat, and it's just argh

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Also I just left ZaneLee at the daycare.

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I figured they'd get exp that way while I walk around training... sigh.

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sorry

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Ooooo, Choccy learned Cosmic Power

bleak pine
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That is a plus, though Solrock for whatever reason has a higher ATK stat

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Just gonna fight my way through Meteor Falls and back to Mt. Chimney.

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I'd really like to get some Heart Scales, but they're very rare things in smashable rocks

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And I'm not at a point where I can just mug Luvdisc for Heart Scales

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Raz does learn some electric type moves; I taught her Volt Switch, so that might come in handy

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Ok, rude. Geodude actually got off Smack Down against Choccy

mighty storm
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pokemon really loving turtles lately

mighty storm
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New Nuzlocke
Heartgold or Soulsilver?

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found my old red and black DS

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oh right, neither works

bleak pine
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rip

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Maxie tried to educate me

He didn't

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Also, Mightyena? Total jerk

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Friggin' Swagger and me having the worst luck is a terrible combination

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Also: Ren just face-tanked Tabitha's Koffing using Self-Destruct.

Only like 2 damage

mighty storm
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god do I wish I had a 3DS that actually worked, I'd nuzlocke X for one

bleak pine
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Ohhh my goodness Raz finally learns a good rock-type move in Power Gem

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Yeah, Nuzlockes for X-Y are fun, given how bio-diverse Kalos is

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Buying all the Moomoo Milk

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Annnd I got an egg.

bleak pine
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Alright.

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Flannery wasn't too difficult.

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Just clicked Stealth Rock and threw a bunch of boulders

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Annnnd now, I'm in the desert and will select the Root Fossil

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Mostly cause I know I'm just having the worst luck against water-types and need something good to even the tables

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@sand forge You are Lileep! (But it's alright if you don't wish it so)

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And now, to run all over the West side of Hoenn for errands before I go challenge the next gym

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Boom, full team of 6 now

bleak pine
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Training will wait, gonna take on Norman

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I'm gonna end this man's whole career, with Protect

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DAMMIT WILL YOU KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE SINGING AND ATTRACTING

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Argh, this Delcatty is the worst

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You're gonna run out of PP for Doubleslap eventually

random stream
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@sand forge @swift jasper

bleak pine
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Ayyyy nice

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This is what, the 3rd mon you got that has Bolt Strike?

random stream
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Sand stream means solar's sand rush finally works, raz can get a spdef boost
and I have infinite chip monkaHmm

bleak pine
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Or maybe you got a TM and I forgot

random stream
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Yeah it's a tm symph

bleak pine
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Ahhh

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Alright, won this slapfight with the Delcatty.

Argh.

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Using only Ren for these battles, since he shoulllld be close to evolving.

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Lairon will be excellent for the upcoming battles

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Annnnd Ren has successfully evolved into Lairon

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bleak pine
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ooooh god this Zangoose has Revenge

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Nearly KO'd Raz, but Sturdy kicked in.

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I still think Retaliate has the sickest animation ever

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It's just so cool

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And, that's a shutout win for me against Normal

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I mean, Norman

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His name is Norman

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And with the help of surfing raccoons and candy, I've evolved Raz into Probopass

tacit sphinx
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Okay.

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The squad.

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I do not have revives btw

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I’m playing this straight

bleak pine
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Heaven or Hell, let's rock

tacit sphinx
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@pseudo goblet is already down

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Forretress exploded

bleak pine
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ohhh dear

tacit sphinx
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It should be fine

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Zane was mostly here for Night Shade and Sludge Bomb

tacit sphinx
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Okay gonna be honest

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If I win this attempt it will be a bona fide miracle

slate marlin
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You have a GBA SP too? Nice.

bleak pine
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You got this~

tacit sphinx
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I really don’t got this one lmao

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Yeah it’s over

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My gambit failed

slate marlin
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Oh no.

tacit sphinx
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Needed to hit Sleep Powder and missed.

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Oh well

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Attempt 2 a bit later

slate marlin
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Ok.

tacit sphinx
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So what went wrong was actually pretty easy to explain

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and also fairly embarrassing

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Bruno’s Machamp took out Halfmiss and Symph

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For those who don’t know, Cross Chop is a 100 power move with a high crit rate and 80% accuracy

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I figured Half could stall it out

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Cross Chop crit 3 times

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and a high roll on the last one took them out from full

bleak pine
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Oh jeez

tacit sphinx
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Yeah

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I got wildly unlucky

bleak pine
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Yeah, Cross Chop is friggin' dangerous. I can see why that'd hurt a whole lot

tacit sphinx
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The thing is like

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Nobody else can be in

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Because of Rock Slide

bleak pine
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Yurgh.

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Yeah, this is a headscratcher on a good gameplan.

tacit sphinx
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My plan was basically to just stall the five Cross Chops while setting up with Swords Dance

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But 3 crits in a row was too much to bear

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Then I panicked, switched in Symph, and they got Rock Slided

bleak pine
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Honestly just seems you were way too unfortunate. 3 times in a row is just, the worst.

tacit sphinx
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Had to PP stall Rock Slide with Gooey

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If I had Bruno’s crit luck in GSC OU I would run Machamp in every game

bleak pine
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You made it to Bruno, so I'd say you got what it takes.

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Just, seems like this was just wildly unfortunate, was all. Don't see much changes I can suggest other than to try again

tacit sphinx
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You were doing your job

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Forretress just

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blew up

bleak pine
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Yeah, Explosion just vaporizes most anything. Here, it's a 250 power move that halves the defense stat for damage calculation

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You'd practically have to resist it and have a high enough defense or HP stat to survive

pseudo goblet
bleak pine
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Yvetal learnin' to dance

tacit sphinx
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Okay so

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There is one key thing I’ve learned

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With Light Screen up, Summer can take a Houndoom Flamethrower

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So my plan for Karen (is risky as fuck but)

bleak pine
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oooh

tacit sphinx
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Screen on Umbreon with Ren

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Get the kill with Summer

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Sleep Powder while Screen is still up

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If I miss, it’s a wipe

bleak pine
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Yeah, this sounds very, very risky.

tacit sphinx
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If I hit, switch to Symph and Submission

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There’s no alternative

bleak pine
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But if it helps, it might cement your ticket to see Lance

tacit sphinx
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Gooey has Spore but

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4x weakness

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There’s no way they take the Flamethrower

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…this does give me some pause though

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What am I going to do for, like… the non-Dragonites

bleak pine
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Honestly, Charizard seems like the biggest threat, as is Aerodactyl

tacit sphinx
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I actually lowkey think the most dangerous mon Lance has is Aero

bleak pine
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Yeah, Aerodactyl is friggin' fast

tacit sphinx
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Nothing I have can outspeed it

bleak pine
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No way any bug-type is gonna outrun it

tacit sphinx
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and I’m pretty sure it has Rock Slide

bleak pine
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So you might need Halfmiss to go toe-to-toe with it.

tacit sphinx
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Metal Claw is supereffective if nothing else

bleak pine
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On the bright side, each of the Dragonite really are a non-issue.

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Well, almost. Hyper Beam still hits stupid hard, but they have friggin' twister, so that's about it.

tacit sphinx
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There is of course

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one last issue

bleak pine
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Seriously, was there any good reason to have everything of Lance know Hyper Beam? Probably not, but I just love how all-out the team setup is

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Hyper Beam for everyone

tacit sphinx
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Me: “Ren, use Light Screen so that you can tank all of the special attacks and use Ice Punch in return”
Lance:

bleak pine
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Ouch, Yeah

tacit sphinx
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Like

bleak pine
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Hyper Beam is a physical attack

tacit sphinx
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Ren is not taking a Hyper Beam realistically

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We will have to see how it goes

bleak pine
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Go for it~

tacit sphinx
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Actually

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I’m pretty sure Lance typically opens with Rain Dance

bleak pine
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Yeah, could just be as likely they'll use Surf instead.

pseudo goblet
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Huh, totally forgot about this, I was shocked just now

bleak pine
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Zane I hate to disappoint you but Slugma is literally unpettable

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I can't even give them the pats without burning my hand off

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Aaaaaaa

pseudo goblet
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That’s okay, hugs is a fine substitute

pseudo goblet
bleak pine
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Choccy can still eat Pokepuffs... for some reason

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I don't see where the mouth is on this thing

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...Actually, I wonder where Probopass' mouth is too. Does it like

Just, absorb the puff?

pseudo goblet
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Inhale puff with nose blob3c

tacit sphinx
bleak pine
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Are you suggesting that Propass snorts these pastries

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what

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Ok, you just made this sound more hillarious than what I had in mind. Well done.

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Alright, gonna train more but here's a screenshot update

pseudo goblet
bleak pine
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Gonna train Zane, Choccy and Dek more. Summer and Redn likely don't need too much adjustments

bleak pine
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You're legit a sleeper hit in the making; P sure this whole team would just insta-lose to like, friggin' Roserade or something

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Hard part is getting there

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Only mons left would be Rhyhorn, Relicanth and Corsola for the first part.

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After I whip Groundon I got way more options.

tacit sphinx
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The bit that goes hard

bleak pine
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It do indeed slap

golden lance
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I'll still argue that gen 2's gym leader theme is the best one

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Even more so than 8

bleak pine
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Yeah

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Like, 8 works great as sound

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But not music if that makes sense

tacit sphinx
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You know what has come in genuine clutch

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@mighty storm learned Safeguard like one level ago

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It is saving some fights

tacit sphinx
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Okay.

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Machamp time.

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Half, the floor is yours.

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2 down.

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Fuck.

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Another high roll crit.

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Does Reflect reduce the damage of a crit?

outer eagle
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no

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crit ignores Reflect

tacit sphinx
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Fuck

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OKAY

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Machamp is down with only Half dead

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Oh my god.

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Karen just destroyed my entire strategy.

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Umbreon has Mean Look.

golden lance
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Just u turn, it's stab

tacit sphinx
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No like get this

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My entire strategy was to use Light Screen to let Summer take one hit

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So that I can sleep Houndoom

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But I can’t switch to Ren

golden lance
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Oh

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Sadge

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Btw

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What's the plan vs lance?

tacit sphinx
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Renren

golden lance
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I see

tacit sphinx
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Yeah

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Wiped by Houndoom

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Hey chat, should I be saving before E4 members or should I keep resetting after a loss?

slate marlin
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Um, save before, then reset?

tacit sphinx
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👍 for saving, 👎 for resetting

pseudo goblet
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Raz wants to do this fair lol

sand forge
outer eagle
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Dark Grass making your capture rates lower is such an annoying mechanic

slate marlin
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There must be a way to counter it, no?

outer eagle
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not really...

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it's a game mechanic

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only way you can lessen the reduction is by capturing more mons

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with 30 or more in your box the reduction is only 50% rather than 2/3

outer eagle
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Map randomizer going well KEKW

pseudo goblet
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@normal cave

vocal torrent
tacit sphinx
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Challenge for you all

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What are the Pokemon in Pokemon Stadium 2’s intro?

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Double points if you know the order

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Answer: ||Scizor, Donphan, Bellossom, Skarmory, Umbreon, Pichu, Lugia, Ho-Oh||

random stream
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@sand forge nyaruhodo you dragon clawed the ruler of space to deth

random stream
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Rip raz, you were a legend
Bianca's mismagius had secret sword and one shotted from full

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Hits defense and not spdef

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@lone harbor beb you're pretty broken

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tacit sphinx
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all i expected was for you to play perfectly

random stream
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Sorry champion forrest, my clefable is better. Good choice of pokemon though

outer eagle
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Secret Sword bypassing Sandstorm buff KEKW

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Got a nice mon to sweep the game with. Just needs to find the actual gyms themselves. Hahaa

tacit sphinx
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Okay, E4 attempt #3.

random stream
tacit sphinx
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I'll let you guys know when I reach, like... Bruno or Karen.

random stream
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Mienshao had psychic gem psystrike

tacit sphinx
random stream
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Uhh better movesets is enabled + all enemy trainers have a held item
so if theyve a gem their moveset will have a gem-compatible move

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Thats two mons lost to gem moves now

outer eagle
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Ren did enable the setting for extra items that make sense + better movepool

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so ya know

tacit sphinx
outer eagle
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hey i lasted for 4 gyms

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good enough

random stream
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you lasted 6 monkaHmm

tacit sphinx
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Koga's Ariados is on god the funniest mon in any Elite Four

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Do y'all know its moves?

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oh actually

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Like the idea is good

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The AI is stupid

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Double Team, Spider Web, Giga Drain

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and Baton Pass

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Trapping plus evasion passing is terrifying

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but luckily Koga basically will not do it

slate marlin
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Have you guys heard Karen's quote?

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outer eagle
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why would i need to hear Karen's quote when i can just do customer service? nyaruhodo

random stream
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Griff died to crit stone edge, not sure what I expected

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Dek picks up a double kill after tanking a powder snow

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Oh baby a triple

slate marlin
tacit sphinx
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you guys ever get the feeling brock and bruno are related

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  • heavy tan
  • big eyebrows
  • loves using onix
random stream
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Sand rush solar to clean up the rest
moral of the story bolt strike is kinda broken @outer eagle

outer eagle
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it do be a strong move

tacit sphinx
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we're up to the machamp.

random stream
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Speed control is really good too
scarf dek and sand rush

tacit sphinx
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i am going to do something

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r i s k y

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i think my best option might be switching between halfmiss and zane

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zane double resists cross chop

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and scizor can take a rock slide

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the issue is the health drain

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OKAY

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MACHAMP IS OUT OF CROSS CHOPS

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THE SCARY PART IS OVER

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FINALLY got past machamp without a mon lost!!

slate marlin
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Good for you.

random stream
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Noice

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@outer eagle looks like they really want me to build around sand

tacit sphinx
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okay

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first time we've reached karen with a full team

slate marlin
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Congrats!

tacit sphinx
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i fucking hate this umbreon so much

slate marlin
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Why?

random stream
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I retaught it toxic from the move relearner

Good luck w karen raz

tacit sphinx
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@random stream mvp

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outer eagle
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that moveset is pretty good

random stream
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I need to find a brightpowder seller

outer eagle
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why

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it's only a 10% debuff

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also it was probably a bad idea to do a BW2 Map Randomizer cuz the world is so much bigger and non-linear compared to Emerald Hahaa

tacit sphinx
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shit

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she didn't go into houndoom after umbreon

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now i'm in trouble

random stream
tacit sphinx
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i essentially have to predict when she's going to use houndoom

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i was sure she'd switch it in on gooey

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fuck

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houndoom is coming in and screens are down

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i lose

random stream
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No brightpowder sellers, guess ill go with big root

tacit sphinx
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without screens it's impossible for anything to take a hit

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that's fucking miserable

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the worst part is

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i was trying to be careful

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and i got a random crit that killed vileplume

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i wanted to set up screens when it was at low hp

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that's so unfortunate

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i might have to save before karen

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like, the houndoom is literally just "you get one shot or it wipes your entire team"

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i don't fully want to do that but i might have to

outer eagle
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hell, even Muscle Band

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or a Gem of some kind?

random stream
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A resist berry copium or sitrus

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I have a ground gem

outer eagle
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save the ground gem if it's not buyable

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you can technically farm it but it's a pain in the ass

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same for Sitrus Berry

random stream
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Gotcha. Final cheren fight I think

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we had a good run of 5 minutes exca, fire blast lunatone

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Look what I found jigglypog

slate marlin
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What's a Dream Ball?

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Oh, it's for sleeping mons.

random stream
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Gonna count it as two areas since it's from badge check gates

Dream ball is for dream world stuff

slate marlin
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huh.

outer eagle
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man Ren's losing stuffs continuously now

random stream
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@lucid moth @outer eagle

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The serene grace build nyaruhodo

tacit sphinx
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okay

outer eagle
tacit sphinx
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as i said i really do just have to save before karen

outer eagle
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wow Rotom is so good here

tacit sphinx
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there's no real alternative

outer eagle
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6 forms to pick from

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ah wait

tacit sphinx
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but i want y'all to remember

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i spent as long as i could

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avoiding this

outer eagle
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do you get access to Shopping Mall 9 pre-E4 in BW?

random stream
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Yeah I went to shopping mall 9 now

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My options are regen volt switch rotom heat

Or serene grace rotom-wash

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Went with QD serene grace rotom-wash with three secondary effect moves

outer eagle
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what were the other forms' ability btw

random stream
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move tutor gave muddy water and tbolt, tms were qd lava plume

outer eagle
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just curious

tacit sphinx
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like it's unsustainable for me to just replay the entire e4 every time

outer eagle
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Muddy Water is kinda risky

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with its average accuracy tbh

random stream
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Og had levitate frost had mummy? mow sap sipper

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dont remember what air had it was a meme

outer eagle
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k so yeah Wash is probably best

random stream
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Could just run surf then, I dont like hydros accuracy either

outer eagle
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each form has a different tutor learnset

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so if you see any other broken tutor move one form might learn it

random stream
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Let's see if any of them have scald

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scald probably breaks this washtom

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qd serene grace scald monkaGIGA

outer eagle
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60% Burn EZ

random stream
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Yeah I technically have it w plume but scald is a diff story

outer eagle
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interesting that Wash doesn't learn Scald

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that's kinda ironic

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wait is Scald a tutor move?

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or are you just checking level up learnset

random stream
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Checking level ups

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this game has like negative -5 tutors

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And I dont have it in tms

outer eagle
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true KEKW

random stream
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Do you remember how wings work? can they exceed 100 evs?

outer eagle
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wings can exceed 100 yes

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it's vitamins that can't

random stream
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I have infinite money now since I can do relic loops

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time to buy 252 health wings

outer eagle
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relic items do be broke

tacit sphinx
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cool

outer eagle
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wait don't you need to sell them to the dude in Undella

tacit sphinx
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attempt on karen specifically #2

outer eagle
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and you don't get access to Undella pre-E4 in BW

tacit sphinx
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literally i just need one fucking move to hit and then i can play the game

random stream
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Oh hmm theres like the pearl strings

tacit sphinx
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but that move is sleep powder

random stream
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and the ore guy

outer eagle
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pearl strings are fine

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all the other valuables can be sold in Icirrus

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or if you're really into shrooms for some reason

tacit sphinx
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i did the maths and gooey can't survive even with screens

outer eagle
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the girl next to Nimbasa

tacit sphinx
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symph the pinsir can but can't ohko with submission iirc

random stream
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man submi sucks sadge

tacit sphinx
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the worst meta move

outer eagle
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submission?

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it was like the only available Fighting type in the earlier gens iirc

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with okish power

tacit sphinx
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the power is not okish

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80 power, 80 accuracy, recoil

outer eagle
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80 by gen 1 standards was fine

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nothing amazing, but decent enough

random stream
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Weird frost has levitate

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wash has serene heat has regen

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Fan has mummy

tacit sphinx
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you know the worst part of this

random stream
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Fan learns judgment ryuji and I do have a bunch of plates peepoDetective

tacit sphinx
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every time i fail i have to fight the fucking umbreon again

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and that umbreon is extremely annoying

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crimson moat
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The big problem with Submission in gen 2 was that Cross Chop existed.
Breeding also gave the non-Lee hitmons access to High Jump Kick

random stream
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Og had toxic boost

tacit sphinx
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The nightmare is over.

slate marlin
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Good for you.

crimson moat
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Welcome to the only pokemon in gen 2 that willingly learns Submission competitively

random stream
crimson moat
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Even Typhlosion learns a fighting move for TTar and it goes with Dynamic Punch instead

random stream
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Then yeah go back to muddy water why not

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Final set

tacit sphinx
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right, so.

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karen's gengar does have one thing that concerns me

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starts with d and ends with estiny bond

crimson moat
# outer eagle it was like the only available Fighting type in the earlier gens iirc

Just for reference, by Gen 2:

Hitmonlee had High Jump Kick by Gen 1
Hitmonchan and Hitmontop could learn High Jump Kick in Gen 2
Machamp and Primeape got Cross Chop in gen 2

That left you with mostly pokemon who didn't care for a fighting move, including Poliwrath

Non fighting pokemon who learned a fighting move:
Alakazam, Typhlosion, Feraligatr use Dynamic Punch TM instead due to damage difficulties
Electabuzz and Magmar have Cross Chop

This leaves you with the only pokemon willing to learn Submission by gen 2 be:
Kabutops
Pinsir
Mew
Mewtwo

And with Mew and Mewtwo, it is still up for debate with Dynamic Punch

tacit sphinx
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okay it's down

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yo.

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karen down.

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y'all know what that means.

random stream
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tacit sphinx
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This is likely going to take a few attempts.

outer eagle
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just went to make dinner

outer eagle
random stream
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60% para, 60% burn, 40% acc drop nyaruhodo

tacit sphinx
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attempt 1 failed due to a crit

outer eagle
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honestly i'd rather just run Surf over the 40% acc drop

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but you do you

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i have ptsd from moves with <95% accuracy

random stream
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Muddy water might clutch in e4 copium

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yeah can confirm bolt strike has missed like 10 times now

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still v good though

outer eagle
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at least bolt strike is a coverage move

tacit sphinx
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attempt 2 also failed to a crit.

outer eagle
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you can afford to not use it often

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cuz at the end of the day it's not STAB

tacit sphinx
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i have been crit hyper beamed twice

outer eagle
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i'll be damned if i'm gonna have my best spammable STAB be a middling accuracy move

tacit sphinx
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attempt 3 lost to charizard.

random stream
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Gonna stop at vroad for now

tacit sphinx
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well

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i now know ren can take a hyper beam

bleak pine
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Punch em!

outer eagle
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that's...

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not a safe enough range to make that assumption tbh

random stream
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Do you wanna see my past randolocke clefables

tacit sphinx
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i think the charizard might actually
not be possible

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WAIT

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SUMMER GOT A SLEEP POWDER OFF

random stream
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winnable

tacit sphinx
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not winnable

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ren fainted

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it's a speed tie with charizard

random stream
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noo

tacit sphinx
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well, i have exactly one hope but

random stream
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do you have a rare candy

tacit sphinx
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no

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if this works it will be the biggest cheese in pokemon history

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it didn't

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attempt 4 failed due to charizard

#

fuck meeeeee

#

the charizard is honestly a worse problem than the dragonites

#

...there is one thing i can try

#

it's a colossal gamble

#

but if it takes a mountain of cheese to win

#

so be it

pseudo goblet
outer eagle
#

hey theoretically speaking i only ever have attempt to cheese Ultra-Necrozma in my gen 7 nuzlockes tbw

tacit sphinx
#

aaaand ren got crit

random stream
#

Zamn

#

reset raz

pseudo goblet
#

Pfft

outer eagle
#

somehow Ren always manifests a Clef into his encounter pool

tacit sphinx
#

okay so here are my two giga gimmicks for the charizard

#

#1, less gimmicky

#

i finally used a tm

#

summer can tank a single wing attack or flamethrower from full health

random stream
tacit sphinx
#

lance's charizard is male

#

summer
is female

bleak pine
#

Oh my

pseudo goblet
bleak pine
#

Attract!

tacit sphinx
#

correct

#

charizard gimmick #1 is attract

#

from there i take advantage of free turns to mash sleep powder and psybeam

outer eagle
#

i almost never use Thundurus-T but that dude always finds a way into my encounters KEKW

tacit sphinx
#

the second gimmick is much worse but also way funnier if it works

#

i gave gooey a quick claw lmao

pseudo goblet
golden lance
#

Nah

tacit sphinx
#

are you fucking kidding me

golden lance
#

Ren would mod the game to add clef

tacit sphinx
#

ren got frozen

golden lance
#

Noooooo

pseudo goblet
#

It will be the funniest thing ever to see Ren somehow got a Clef that’s not even in a game’s file KEKW

tacit sphinx
#

i hate lance y'all

tacit sphinx
#

WHAT IS HYPER BEAM'S CRIT RATE

golden lance
#

Pov: rby tauros

pseudo goblet
#

Suddenly feeling hungry for some steaks

tacit sphinx
#

i'm getting fucking flinch hacked by aero

pseudo goblet
#

Pfft, Lance always finds new ways to get people calling him a hacker KEKW

tacit sphinx
#

he is a hacker

#

rock slide is impossible on gsc aero

#

also we're up to 4 rock slides and 3 flinches

#

4 flinches

pseudo goblet
#

It still going up KEKW KEKW

tacit sphinx
#

i am playing against a fucking chipp zanuff in pokemon form

#

HAH I ONLY HAVE TO HIT YOU ONCE FUCKER

#

fucking hell

#

run ended

#

i'm doing one more and then calling it a night

#

if i get crit hyper beamed one more time i am going to burn rby ou to the ground

sand forge
#

Slowly approaching 1400 again after falling from 1600 to 1100

tacit sphinx
#

lost the game to a rock slide flinch

#

you know why

#

flinch cost me a single turn of screen

#

and i died

#

y'all know rock slide has 90 accuracy

#

why can't lance miss

pseudo goblet
#

Me and my common rock slides misses…

tacit sphinx
#

YO NO WAY

#

GOOEY QUICK CLAW WORKED

#

CHARIZARD'S DOWN

#

I HAVE NO REN BUT IT'S ONE MORE DRAGONITE

pseudo goblet
#

Sending you some energy

tacit sphinx
#

energy failed

pseudo goblet
#

Lost?

tacit sphinx
#

fire blast is 70% accurate and this fucker never misses

#

he never misses

#

i give up

pseudo goblet
#

Alexa, play BROFIST, by Pewdiepie and Roomie

tacit sphinx
#

i'm trying my absolute best on this but it's so luck dependent

#

whether you get crit, whether aero flinches, whether attract works

#

like

#

summer actually did get an attract off

#

wanna know what happened

pseudo goblet
#

‘Never give up ✊’

tacit sphinx
#

charizard ignored infatuation 3 turns in a row

pseudo goblet
#

Maybe grind levels a bit

tacit sphinx
#

i really don't want to

#

plus i spent a lot of resources getting items for this attempt

pseudo goblet
#

Well, you still wanna finish the run right

#

You didn’t play the whole game to just end it here did you peepoDetective

tacit sphinx
#

i'm just not able to get any luck on it

#

like if i got a crit, or a random para, i'd be thrilled

#

lance's luck is obscene

pseudo goblet
#

Keep trying 👍

tacit sphinx
#

the most luck i got is gooey quick claw

pseudo goblet
tacit sphinx
#

I meant to sleep a while ago.

#

But I decided to try one last time.

#

Summer gave her life keeping the Charizard locked down.

#

And then…

#

@random stream

#

The run was also fucking saved by @silver vigil

#

Quick Claw Spore shut down the Charizard after it finally got through Summer’s defences.

pseudo goblet
#

Congrats, do gsc have the Red fight or that’s just HGSS

tacit sphinx
#

Sorry for the shit quality but

#

Here’s the Hall of Fame team

pseudo goblet
#

Oh hey, I’m actually there fluff

#

Also Ren really became our frontline fighter, Renren best

long stone
pseudo goblet
#

Watching the videos makes me realize it’s been 10 since we had mega sweateragent

bleak pine
#

Not gonna miss it personally

#

It was cool initially but I just grew to dislike it over time

#

Also:Ayyyyyy Congratulations Raz

spice rivet
#

Pokemon TCG keeps having absolutely normal ones mmm yup

crimson moat
#

And remember, this is with the better card pull ratios

#

Those pull rates were even worse back in Gen 8

#

Don't think it will be anywhere as bad in the western TCG in June, but it will still be a bit obnoxious

bleak pine
#

Yep, I saw this one coming.

#

Not that it'll affect me, since I just want the regular prints for decks anyways

#

On the bright side, I'd wager most everything else will be very much readily available when Paldea Evolved releases

spice rivet
crimson moat
#

They slightly improved all pull rates

#

Western Pull Rates were also really, really bad around Fusion Strike / Brilliant Stars

golden lance
#

remember when in gen 7 you could go around smelling people's beds?

bleak pine
#

...Yeah, that was, odd

#

Apparently the protagonist just, knew about people's stories based on bed scent.

#

Alright, gonna do something here, and catch a Pelliper. Not to use though, still gonna stick to rock-types

#

But the reason is twofold:

A: Pelliper can be a mon with Fly, and Surf.

#

And B: If caught I can search for it on DexNav and get a way to get Lucky Eggs

#

Only mon I can catch that I can use, that learns Thief on the other hand, is Rhyhorn... all the friggin' way in the Safari Zone

#

So I'd have to really fight my way through the east side of Hoenn just to get there.

#

Training's gotta be done

tacit sphinx
#

Coward

#

I have simply walked everywhere

bleak pine
#

Aw, but my legs hurrrrrt...

dawn skiff
#

Might do one of these nuzlockes

tacit sphinx
#

Wait

#

You’re playing ORAS aren’t you

dawn skiff
#

Never really done a serious attempt at one

bleak pine
#

Oh, this isn't a Nuzlocke, it's a monotype run

#

Yep

tacit sphinx
#

Can’t you just use the Lati

bleak pine
#

Nah

#

That doesn't come until I finish up business with Team Magma for good

tacit sphinx
#

Then walk until then

bleak pine
#

Aw, maaaan...

dawn skiff
#

Haven't done either a mono run or a nuzlocke tbh

tacit sphinx
#

Fly isn’t a required HM

bleak pine
#

It's pretty great so far.

#

Yeah, to be fair, by the time I get a rock-type that knows Fly (Aerodactyl), I already got Latios to cart me around

#

So I might as well keep it that way.

#

Raz finally finished their bug-type one of Crystal, and hoo boy was it a trip

tacit sphinx
#

I didn’t finish it

bleak pine
#

Well, you entered the hall of fame, I suppose

#

Halfway there!

#

...Oh wow, I just met a Jigglypuff out near Meteor falls.

I keep forgetting that Jigglypuff can be encountered in RSE. Hmm.

#

Annnnd Ren's trying to learn Iron Tail. Nope

#

Much as I love these "go for broke" moves, Iron Tail is one I just have the worst luck with

sand forge
#

I keep getting fucked by Vaporeon in randbats

#

So tanky, wish-passing constantly

#

Never get anything supereffective against water

bleak pine
#

Snatch them wishes

sand forge
#

Aaaaagh

bleak pine
#

Also yeah, Vaporeon really is friggin' durable.

dawn skiff
#

I'd restart my crystal run and do monotype

bleak pine
#

I really friggin' hate these Hariyama. They are fighting types, so of course rock-types will hurt

But they also all have Knock-Off, so I can't even send Choccy after it without getting hit hard in response.

dawn skiff
#

The main issue is that any type I want to do is probably hell early game sadcat

#

In terms of crystal I mean

bleak pine
#

Fire could be pretty alright. You got Cyndaquil, and you can catch Growlithe pretty early too

tacit sphinx
#

@dawn skiff hold on

dawn skiff
#

Ye?

tacit sphinx
#

Normal: Sentret, Hoothoot, Teddiursa, Pidgey, Rattata, Spearow, Dunsparce
Fire: Cyndaquil, Growlithe
Water: Totodile, Poliwag
Grass: Chikorita, Bellsprout, Hoppip
Rock: Geodude
Ground: Geodude, Phanpy
Poison: Zubat, Gastly, Spinarak, Weedle, Bellsprout
Flying: Hoppip, Zubat, Pidgey, Spearow, Hoothoot, Ledyba
Psychic: Unown lol
Bug: Caterpie, Weedle, Spinarak, Ledyba
Ghost: Gastly

bleak pine
#

Oh, Psychic just sounds awful.

#

Yurrrrgh

dawn skiff
#

Oh cool

tacit sphinx
#

This is what’s available before Falkner

dawn skiff
#

Mono ghost run time nyaruhodo

#

I mean if I caught 6 unown

tacit sphinx
#

Psychic is technically doable because after Azalea Town you actually like catch some mons

bleak pine
#

I think there's Abra and Drowzee

tacit sphinx
#

But before then it is literally Unown and Slowpoke only

dawn skiff
#

I could spell something really funny

bleak pine
#

Oh yeah, Slowpoke

dawn skiff
#

Ye

bleak pine
#

Obligatory Ducky shoutout

dawn skiff
#

Slowpoke is in the well yes

tacit sphinx
#

The funniest part is

#

There’s one more Psychic type available

dawn skiff
#

Though I'd be forced into Slowbro I'm p sure

tacit sphinx
#

But you can’t get it

dawn skiff
#

Oh

#

Girafarig

tacit sphinx
#

Eggy requires Headbutt

dawn skiff
#

Oh

tacit sphinx
#

Also nah like Psychic is easy past the bottleneck I think

bleak pine
#

You technically can have Smoochum.

dawn skiff
#

I know girafarig is in some hidden part of a cave where you need like , surf and water

bleak pine
#

If you're friggin' lucky

tacit sphinx
#

are y’all listening to me :c

bleak pine
#

...Oh, yeah

#

But after, yeah, Smoochum is possible.

dawn skiff
#

mono steel run any %

dawn skiff
#

I might be thinking of another Pokemon

bleak pine
#

You might be thinking of Wobbuffet

tacit sphinx
#

You’re thinking of Wobbuffet yeah

bleak pine
#

Technically in Dark Cave, but you can't get to it

dawn skiff
#

Yeah

#

Wack

bleak pine
#

It's in a different sector of the cave

tacit sphinx
#

If you’re playing Crystal, you literally cannot get Girafarig

#

It’s GS exclusive

dawn skiff
#

Yeah right

#

It and mareep

tacit sphinx
#

There’s one more exclusive mon from Gen 2 IIRC

#

But absolutely nobody cares

#

until you’re going for a living pokedex

#

and then you cry

dawn skiff
#

Wait actually you forgot one for rock its useless but

#

The in-game trade Onix

tacit sphinx
bleak pine
#

That Onix is just a chad

dawn skiff
#

But also it's Onix so

tacit sphinx
#

But it involves catching a non-Rock

#

So

bleak pine
#

Level 3 Onix

dawn skiff
#

Yeah

bleak pine
#

More than enough to ruin Falkner

tacit sphinx
#

Anyway

#

Remoraid is exclusive to GS

dawn skiff
#

Lmao

tacit sphinx
#

It is also found in a single body of water in the entire game

bleak pine
#

Crystal has a bunch of dumb exclusive exemptions

dawn skiff
#

The feebas effect

tacit sphinx
#

That body of water is only accessible after Mahogany Town

#

A grand total of one trainer in Johto has a Remoraid

#

It might unironically be the most obscure mon in GSC

bleak pine
#

Honestly, very inclined to believe that

#

At least Qwilfish has some fans after Legends

#

And Stantler.

dawn skiff
#

You technically aren't forced into any battles before the first silver one right

tacit sphinx
#

Obscure as in hard to find

bleak pine
#

Nope

dawn skiff
#

Bc I'm thinking I might actually try mono poison

bleak pine
#

It's all wilderness encounters before then

dawn skiff
#

But I wanna catch a poison type before I'm forced to box lol

bleak pine
#

Poison can be doable. First mons would be Spinarak

#

And I suppose Weedle

dawn skiff
#

Gastly is early too if you roam at night

tacit sphinx
#

I have listed your options @dawn skiff

#

So

#

Enjoy

spice rivet
#

Completely unrelated but its been impossible to get a Hisui starter 2nd Wave to have Alphas rip. But in the meantime I managed to get Alpha Shiny Goomy, Rotom and Spiritomb,

bleak pine
#

Nice finds

dawn skiff
#

Aight

#

Might just do the server names thing y'all are lol

bleak pine
#

It's fun stuff

#

Summer's on as Golem, and it's just wild having Golem as soon as level 25

#

Oh, uggggh, I have to go across the ocean to get to Sea Mauville

dawn skiff
#

starting the run

bleak pine
#

Every swimmer has a water-type, so having literally anyone out other than Dek (Lileep) is asking for trouble.

dawn skiff
#

you get pokeballs before your first encounter with silver right

bleak pine
#

To my knowledge, yep

dawn skiff
#

also not nicknaming any non poison pokemon i happen to get given

#

say, my starter

#

ah darn

#

can't get pokeballs until i fight silver

#

so i'll have to do my first battle of a mono poison run with no poison types lol

bleak pine
#

Yeah, cruising on without until your first catch is fine.

#

Just, soon as you got the means to do so, you ditch everything else

dawn skiff
#

might train it 1 level just to ensure i don't white out idk

bleak pine
#

I think Silver is one of the few trainers you can lose to, and the story still progresses

dawn skiff
#

fair enough

bleak pine
#

I could be wrong and that could be a HG/SS only thing, but I think it may be the case, so not much to worry on either way

dawn skiff
#

first b attle time

#

lost lol

#

yeah progressed

bleak pine
#

Youch. Still, you got next time

dawn skiff
#

i wanted to go "minimal battles before poison type"

#

time to name the rival

#

🤔

bleak pine
#

Friggin' Water-types in the ocean keep confusing Dek

#

ARGH

dawn skiff
bleak pine
#

The first mankind around the world

Salt

dawn skiff
#

@void herald

#

wish saltdust fit but ah well

#

Caught my first poison type

#

who gives off spinarak vibes 🤔

bleak pine
#

Unrelated to training so far but I set the trendy saying.

#

It's now "Rage Candy Bar collections"

#

I miss how nonsensical Trendy Saying were in RSE

#

You'd have crap like "BIG SERVICE" and a lot of other stuff you could only get from the selected words you can pick

dawn skiff
#

damn okay this nickname buisness is hard

bleak pine
#

Yep, names are hard.

dawn skiff
#

idw name someone after a big user first time

#

only to box them later

#

ah screw it

#

i'll prob use shortform names

#

there

#

claf is a spinarak

#

gonna train claf

#

wow this is harder than i thought

tacit sphinx
dawn skiff
#

first trainer battle with claf

tacit sphinx
bleak pine
#

Pwwwwwwf

#

These people in Dewford must be incredibly bored to latch onto these kinds of phrases

tacit sphinx
#

You wanna know something dumb @bleak pine

bleak pine
#

Lay it on me

dawn skiff
#

wait are there poison/waters in johto

tacit sphinx
#

In RSE, the trendy phrase actually has a genuine effect

dawn skiff
#

stupid question of course there are

bleak pine
#

Tentacool can be found, yeah

tacit sphinx
dawn skiff
#

yeah

tacit sphinx
#

Also

bleak pine
#

Yeaaaa. I think it was the location of Feebas

dawn skiff
#

i'm asking bc i need the hm slave

tacit sphinx
#

No

bleak pine
#

There's *one specifi-

#

...Oh?

#

There's more?

tacit sphinx
#

I’m gonna give you a different one @dawn skiff

#

A more fun one

dawn skiff
#

is it quilfish

tacit sphinx
#

Yes

bleak pine
#

Yeaaaa

dawn skiff
#

fair enough

tacit sphinx
#

Qwilfish is actually very easy

dawn skiff
#

iirc you need the great rod

#

but it's not too far out

bleak pine
#

There's an easier way

#

You know one of those fishermen you can battle for their Pokegear number?

spice rivet
#

Omg, they never fixed the Shiny Giratina using Shadow Force crash in PLA lmaoooooo

tacit sphinx
#

Incorrect

bleak pine
#

Lol

#

...Oh

tacit sphinx
#

You don’t need a great rod

bleak pine
#

Oh

dawn skiff
#

claf learned scary face

#

anyways what is the way?

bleak pine
#

THIS BRELOOM IS THE WORST ARGH

spice rivet
#

Sorry I couldnt resist

dawn skiff
#

damn

#

was trying to skip this battle

#

but oh well

#

oh cool there's gastly

tacit sphinx
#
  1. Get the Old Rod from the Fisher in the Route 32 Pokemon Centre
  2. Get Fisher Ralph’s phone number - he’s the guy with the Goldeen - and make it the only one in your Pokegear
  3. Go back to New Bark Town
  4. Abuse your mother by constantly forcing her to switch Daylight Savings on and off
  5. This will force Fisher Ralph to call you over and over, eventually triggering his Qwilfish swarm event
  6. Set the time to be correct and then use the Old Rod on Route 32 before midnight
    You have a 15% chance of finding Qwilfish with the Old Rod during a swarm
dawn skiff
#

got it

#

oh right fair

tacit sphinx
#

This is how I got Yanma for the run

#

Sorry, I mean for the box lmao

dawn skiff
bleak pine
#

Ayy

dawn skiff
#

now i gotta get a zubat

#

and a bellsprout then i have my team for the next few battles

tacit sphinx
dawn skiff
#

yes i know the thing is pathetic

tacit sphinx
#

Oh btw

dawn skiff
#

vine whip for the next few levels

tacit sphinx
#

Picnicker Gina, Route 34

#

She gives out Leaf Stones from the Pokegear

dawn skiff
#

oh cool

#

good to know

tacit sphinx
#

Actually might as well uh

dawn skiff
#

ah damn it

#

lick is a ghost move

#

can't train against normals yet

#

caught a bellsprout

tacit sphinx
#

A list of useful Pokegear numbers in Crystal:
Picnicker Gina (Route 34) - Leaf Stone
Schoolboy Alan (Route 36) - Fire Stone
Fisher Tully (Route 42) - Water Stone
Lass Dana (Route 38) - Thunderstone
Camper Todd (Route 34) - Goldenrod Department Store bargain sale
Fisher Ralph (Route 32) - Qwilfish swarm
Bug Catcher Arnie (Route 35) - Yanma swarm
Hiker Anthony (Route 33) - Dunsparce swarm

#

Hiker Anthony is a brutally obscure one because his swarm isn’t for the route he’s on

dawn skiff
#

bellsprout is renren lol

tacit sphinx
#

Also

#

My biggest tip for Crystal players

#

BUENA’S
PASSWORD

#

Seriously underrated shit

golden lance
#

What doed it do?

dawn skiff
#

caught zubat

tacit sphinx
#

Every night between 6 and midnight Buena says a password on the Pokegear radio

#

If you go to Goldenrod and tell her the password, you get a point

#

2 points is a Full Restore iirc, 3 points is a Rare Candy or Nugget, 5 is a stat booster item

#

The Nugget is the big one here tbh

golden lance
#

Thinking about it, gen 2 had some really obscure stuff

dawn skiff
#

ye

tacit sphinx
#

As long as you tune in it’s impossible to run out of cash in Crystal

bleak pine
#

Lodsemone

golden lance
#

Anyway

dawn skiff
#

btw

tacit sphinx
golden lance
#

I forgot just how long gen 7 cutscenes take

tacit sphinx
#

I think GSC has like

#

the most lived-in world in Pokemon

dawn skiff
golden lance
#

Yea

bleak pine
#

Yeah I can see it

#

It's definitely got so much running in it

golden lance
#

Hobestly

bleak pine
#

Alright, enough training.

dawn skiff
#

man the worst off of my pokemon has to be the fucking bellsprout

golden lance
#

Just depresses me how modern pokemon seems to have stopped included these little details and side features

bleak pine
#

Time to head to the east side of Hoenn

dawn skiff
#

given bellsprout tower and falkner are both bad for it

tacit sphinx
#

That sounds dumb but like

bleak pine
#

Even outside of the games you had so much cool stuff

tacit sphinx
#

There are radio shows

bleak pine
#

Like, the Pokémon mini

tacit sphinx
#

People call you to talk about their day

bleak pine
#

A lot of anime specials

golden lance
#

My favorite little thing was the gen 4 villa

bleak pine
#

I can say it's probably the most influential game in the series

dawn skiff
#

renren at level 6

tacit sphinx
#

Like Gen 5 to me has some issues where like

#

It’s deep but also a lot of it is kinda memey?

golden lance
#

Gen 2 legendary lore was mostly heard from npcs

tacit sphinx
#

Like do you remember the roadblock in that game

golden lance
#

It was cool

golden lance
tacit sphinx
#

Yeah

golden lance
#

Maybe we'll leave for no reason

tacit sphinx
#

I hated that

#

But anyway idk

#

Gen 2 is a very alive world

golden lance
#

Yea

bleak pine
#

Yep!

tacit sphinx
#

You get the sense that something is always happening when you’re not around ig?

#

Not in the Gen 8 way of “it happened off camera”

golden lance
#

Mom using your money so that you could decorate your room was cute

tacit sphinx
#

More like it just exists

bleak pine
#

It's one thing I appreciate on them still keeping the spirit of, in Heartgold/Soulsilver

#

You even had instances in which you saw a lot of important characters, like Gym Leaders out and about too

golden lance
#

Shoutouts to having to ruin misty's date

dawn skiff
#

lmaoyeah

tacit sphinx
#

Shout outs to Jasmine!!

#

We stan Jasmine

bleak pine
#

Falkner and Janie having the "My dad can beat up your dad" argument or something

tacit sphinx
#

I could beat up Falkner’s dad, he’s dead

bleak pine
#

Lt. Surge just being a real big fan of Pikachu, in spite of what the anime version of him would have you believe

dawn skiff
#

gotta train choccy lol

golden lance
#

One character i wish i could see more of is pryce

#

Guy looks cool

tacit sphinx
#

Except in GSC

bleak pine
#

haha, geddit, ice types

tacit sphinx
#

Pryce’s GSC sprite lowkey ugly

bleak pine
#

Pryce in HGSS is very well-dressed

golden lance
#

You dont like prison cellmate?

bleak pine
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GSC Pryce just looks like that guy that shouts at kids for getting on his lawn

tacit sphinx
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The art is fine

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This sprite is not

bleak pine
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Seriously, runs an ice-type gym and wears a short sleeve shirt and shorts

golden lance
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Yea

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Gsc pryce looks grumpy

dawn skiff
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man leech life is such a shit move in gsc

golden lance
tacit sphinx
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By the way

bleak pine
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This was before Wulfric, where you had not even wear his coat properly

tacit sphinx
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I have some GSC gym leader trivia

bleak pine
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hooooly shit Choccy is learning Stone Edge

tacit sphinx
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What Gym Leader trains by meditating under a waterfall?

golden lance
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Chuck

tacit sphinx
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I said GSC

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You lose

golden lance
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Fuck

tacit sphinx
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Choccy doesn’t know their GSC lore

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The answer is Pryce

golden lance
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Was the gym waterfall hgss only?

bleak pine
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Really? Huh.

void herald
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pryce was crazy in the manga