Hands could've been that
#Pokemon
pseudo goblet
Mmm, high speed flying drones with claws sounds scary 
fading stratus
Scarier than Salamence that looks like it has malnutrition?
pseudo goblet
Mmm, high speed flying drones with claws sounds scary <:ConcernedFroge:652741645...
Imagine this thing charging and lands on your chest
maiden flax
AV regenerator strikes again
Makes me wonder if cyclizar lost shed tail would AV sets become popular?
random stream
perhaps
mighty storm
awwwww
golden lance
I told y'all offensive pex was gonna be the way this gen and you all laughed at me
I was fucking right
random stream
crimson moat
Hey remember when this wasn't announced at the last pokemon direct
pseudo goblet
sand forge
very good
tacit sphinx
Okay
I think I’ve narrowed down my options
for GSC monotype
I want to do… Flying, Bug, Poison, or Ground
What should I do, chat
snow oasis
Poison
golden lance
What should I do, chat
Ground
mighty storm
I want to do… Flying, Bug, Poison, or Ground
Poison
normal cave
Gonna make the rival Typhlosion
Damn I'm silver
I AM VERY DISGUSTED WITH THE TRASHY MAN
tacit sphinx
Damn I'm silver
Do you want to actually be Silver
I was gonna take names from here for mons but
tacit sphinx
Yes
tacit sphinx
I have work now but I’m gonna keep checking this
Right now Ground is winning, then Poison and Bug are tied
tacit sphinx
It’s a fucking three way tie are you shitting me
tacit sphinx
Any excuse to use pidge and murkrow
when am i using murkrow in crystal
it’s in kanto
normal cave
tacit sphinx
Is it legal in a monotype to use mons that gain a type on evolution
Like if I were using Flying, for example, could I use Caterpie
Okay currently tied between Bug and Ground
normal cave
Is it legal in a monotype to use mons that gain a type on evolution
I use them
Used rowlet in my mono ghost run
vagrant steppe
Is it legal in a monotype to use mons that gain a type on evolution
It comes down to personal preference
tacit sphinx
So uh
The winner, based on my tally results
Currently it’s Bug
If you haven’t voted yet you have two hours
golden lance
Like if I were using Flying, for example, could I use Caterpie
Yes
pseudo goblet
Vanilla game?
tacit sphinx
Yes.
pseudo goblet
Nice
tacit sphinx
@normal cave you’re the rival now
I did just realise something though
This is a Bug run
You have a Cyndaquil
This may be an issue
pseudo goblet
You have a Cyndaquil
Very fitting for Bruial btw
tacit sphinx
@mighty storm you’re the first team member!
I just scrolled up to find someone who’s female tbf
You’re a Caterpie 🙂
Embarrassing update
I just lost to Youngster Joey
@pseudo goblet you are member 2!
pseudo goblet
I’m ladyba I assume
tacit sphinx
Spinarak
pseudo goblet
Spider
Tokusatsu for a bit
We are 3 members away from making the new bug themed ‘power ranger’ in japan 
Oh wait no 8, the ‘megazord’ has 10 mecha in full
pseudo goblet
We are 3 members away from making the new bug themed ‘power ranger’ in japan <:K...
this thing https://youtu.be/XjNq7kZxoi8
Yo @waxen moat, 1.3k likes lmao https://twitter.com/misterduckyart/status/1635224517370056704?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
waxen moat
Fucking hell
tacit sphinx
I have had some realisations
- I may need Shuckle for STAB Rollout which is the most cursed thing ever uttered
- I need something for Surf
pseudo goblet
Make me evolve into araquanid lol
snow oasis
@tacit sphinx can I be Heracross
tacit sphinx
<@107723084735201280> can I be Heracross
If the Heracross is male yes
snow oasis
no wait Beedrill
tacit sphinx
Otherwise I will make the Heracross, uh
snow oasis
Otherwise I will make the Heracross, uh
Gooey
snow oasis
also @random stream I lost my Swampert just before Victory Road
to a Wobb of all things
tacit sphinx
also <@240310577925193729> I lost my Swampert just before Victory Road
did you check under the couch
random stream
snow oasis
did you check under the couch
the Wobb was under the couch and he used Destiny Bond on me
tacit sphinx
the Wobb was under the couch and he used Destiny Bond on me
Warren Buffet
tacit sphinx
Wobb’s Counter sure could tho
What locke is this
snow oasis
Emerald Grifflocke
tacit sphinx
What is a Grifflocke
snow oasis
Hardcore locke with my own personal ruleset
One of the rules is that you have to fight literally every Trainer, which is why I was fighting a random Wobb trainer in Trick House in the first place
pseudo goblet
Do tell me when you box Spinarak or Ariados/me
maiden flax
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9randombattle-1838014159-t7ij3eicu0623sn7d2h4bukk52rywtzpw
Doing randbats again and this is the silliest team I have gotten
short heath
@pliant glacier It's not the devs not working hard enough, it's the company pushing them to work way too fast
jagged linden
I will say
S/V has given me confidence Pokemon is going in a good direction
the DLC remains to be seen but overall? I had a fun time
it helps I have a bf to share the experience with vs just playing myself
snow oasis
Was this in response to something? Has Discord just eaten the last two hours’ worth of messages?
snow oasis
Also @random stream what should I use in the last two moveslots of my Altaria? First two are Dragon Dance and Aerial Ace, then I’m trying to decide between Dragon Claw, Steel Wing, Iron Tail, Return, and Sing for the last moveslot
short heath
Kicked off by someone saying SM was peak pokemon anime
warm sky
S/V has given me confidence Pokemon is going in a good direction
Yeah, they just need more time
The open world is still kinda empty
Maybe some cave dungeons or actually interesting towns
pliant glacier
<@434707008789282837> It's not the devs not working hard enough, it's the compan...
I think the company shouldn't be pushing them to rush it, they should take their time to deliver a quality game
short heath
I may be lying
placid junco
Wait, *gen yugioh?!?*
Yes sir
void herald
pikachu is my favorite yugioh card
short heath
I think the company shouldn't be pushing them to rush it, they should take their...
That's what everyone is thinking but
You know
snow oasis
pliant glacier
pikachu is my favorite yugioh card
based
snow oasis
Also <@240310577925193729> what should I use in the last two moveslots of my Alt...
Anyways since I have a captive audience
short heath
Who?
jagged linden
I remember how @glass ember managed to beat the entire game like... 2 days before I did and I was confused af because I was still at gym 4 with 1 titan complete and he had already gotten to Area Zero and started comp building
random stream
Also <@240310577925193729> what should I use in the last two moveslots of my Alt...
dragon dance aerial ace steel wing x sounds fine. Im guessing you had to use the EQ Tm for reasons so it cant have it
placid junco
It’s pretty much impossible to stop the Pokémon merch machine at this point to allow the devs proper time
snow oasis
dragon dance aerial ace steel wing x sounds fine. Im guessing you had to use the...
Correctamundo
short heath
Here's my ideal structure
pliant glacier
It’s pretty much impossible to stop the Pokémon merch machine at this point to a...
But like would their be any major catastrophes if the game was delayed?
short heath
One year we get a core pokemon game
jagged linden
I remember how <@998115921807810650> managed to beat the entire game like... 2 d...
(sorry for double ping in advance haha)
short heath
The next year is a big spinoff
short heath
But like would their be any major catastrophes if the game was delayed?
According to the company, yes
placid junco
But like would their be any major catastrophes if the game was delayed?
It would completely throw off the release schedules for merch/the anime
pliant glacier
I'm sure the graphics of the game have improved right?
short heath
Slightly
pliant glacier
It would completely throw off the release schedules for merch/the anime
They can wait, it's an insult to the gamers bro!!
short heath
There have been slight performance improvements throughout its release
jagged linden
Fnaf Security Breach ran into this issue if I remember right
game got delayed so much the merch came out years before the actual game did
jagged linden
its much harder to delay stuff like that because usually its 3rd party contracted
crimson moat
Game intent and design has gone in a better direction, albeit still dated.
but production and cohesiveness feels worse this gen than any other
placid junco
They can wait, it's an insult to the gamers bro!!
“An insult to gamers” is kind of overstating it lmao
Gamers suck, and hurl insults at the devs instead of the execs
Game freak just refuses to grow with it’s development needs
outer eagle
But like would their be any major catastrophes if the game was delayed?
the better question here would be since the formula has been working just fine so far is there a reason to rock the boar?
pliant glacier
game got delayed so much the merch came out years before the actual game did
And even though it was delayed, yet they made the graphics garbage on release
jagged linden
graphics mean little to me tbh
pliant glacier
Bro I saw pixels glitchingggg
short heath
And even though it was delayed, yet they made the graphics garbage on release
Delaying a game doesn't mean it's suddenly going to be crystal clear polished
jagged linden
I'm more interested in the gameplay loop and until this game Pokemon's loop has been getting more and more outdated
void herald
yeah i don't think most of the players care about the graphics nearly as much as you think they do
placid junco
Graphics are the least important part of a game (for me)
jagged linden
why can't we throw balls at pokemon to catch them directly btw
outer eagle
my standards for graphics are pretty low, but they are still standards nonetheless
anything before the GBA era is just untouchable for me
crimson moat
Graphically Pokémon has never been anything impressive but SV has it bad with performance
pliant glacier
“An insult to gamers” is kind of overstating it lmao
Gamers suck, and hurl insu...
Yeah game freaks need to get over themselves and actually make good graphiced games
placid junco
Gameplay > music >performance > graphics
void herald
the performance is caused almost entirely because they forgot to stop rendering the ocean when the player isn't looking at it
so there's constantly this giant ocean being rendered in the background
pliant glacier
Gameplay > music >performance > graphics
The music wasn't that good imo. The gym battle song is pretty mid
cunning osprey
So the deal with Pokémon is that there is also an issue with not educating the new employees they do hire
placid junco
(Reasonable) people are willing to put up with ugly games if they are fun to play
crimson moat
They need to buck the trend of having every generation stay in the same swim lanes. Gen 8 into gen 9 was a horrible transition
cunning osprey
And not having the newest technology
void herald
game freak just didn't have a ton of experience working on hd games before this
jagged linden
The music wasn't that good imo. The gym battle song is pretty mid
half the soundtrack bops wym
short heath
(Reasonable) people are willing to put up with ugly games if they are fun to pla...
As long as I can see what's happening on screen I'm fine
void herald
like remember before the switch the most powerful system they worked with was the 3ds
pliant glacier
so there's constantly this giant ocean being rendered in the background
I also don't like how limited the world is. Why the fuck are they on an island?
jagged linden
champion gretta
area zero
terastalize theme
pliant glacier
Like bro make a massive terrain
jagged linden
some of the trainer battle variations
short heath
I'm very disuaded when half the screen is covered by GUI
pliant glacier
I don't wanna be on an island
placid junco
Islands are fine
crimson moat
The anime crashed and burned the last 30 or so episodes of Journeys. The new anime hasn’t even started yet.
void herald
the game's world is already pretty big as is
placid junco
I don't wanna be on an island
It’s called a peninsula
short heath
I also don't like how limited the world is. Why the fuck are they on an island?
Every single Pokemon game takes place on a big island
crimson moat
The tcg got started late
outer eagle
i wish i can rank Gameplay, Graphic, Performance and Music in a specific order but there have been Pokemon games where i was turned off from replaying by any one of these reasons 
pliant glacier
Islands are fine
limits the world. X an Y and black and White's world's were much bigger
placid junco
Not really
crimson moat
And the gen 9 games are rushed on performance
glass ember
I remember how <@998115921807810650> managed to beat the entire game like... 2 d...
It was easy, you're just bad 🔥
pliant glacier
and for me that makes them better by default
short heath
I really don't get your stance here
void herald
and for me that makes them better by default
???
short heath
Bigger world = Better game apparently
void herald
a world being bigger doesn't mean it has more stuff to do in it
crimson moat
Not a single medium of Pokémon besides like plush merch benefit from gen 9 starting as half cooked as it did.
short heath
But the literal open world game is a disgrace to the franchise
placid junco
XY/BW are much smaller but it’s all designed around being smaller
They’re more dense with stuff even if a lot of it is just NPCs in houses
void herald
look at all of ubisoft's terrible empty open world games
pliant glacier
I really don't get your stance here
I don't want to know that the world I'm running around in is small and limited
cunning osprey
It depends on how you use the space
short heath
I don't want to know that the world I'm running around in is small and limited
Paldea isn't even small
cunning osprey
Even BoTW felt a bit lifeless
void herald
i'd rather have a small limited world with lots of stuff to do than a big world with huge expanses of absolutely nothing
placid junco
Not*
jagged linden
if anything the biggest issue with open world games is lack of content, not more
crimson moat
BotW sells only by its exploxable setting
pliant glacier
It SV alone
Well yeah ofc it's not SV alone
glass ember
I know what we all want despite it probably never really will happen.
A Pokémon game where you can go to every religion you choose 👀
short heath
The only thing about the game premise that irked me was
Why they fuck is this all a school trip
outer eagle
i don't like replaying gen7 games much cuz the performance can be pretty bad
i don't play pre-GBA games cuz i have Graphics standards
i get bored of XY easily due to its Gameplay
So music is arguably the factor i value the least
glass ember
Region***
short heath
Why am I confined to a uniform
pliant glacier
I know what we all want despite it probably never really will happen.
A Pokémon...
Based take
void herald
I know what we all want despite it probably never really will happen.
A Pokémon...
pikachu has become catholic 🙏
short heath
I genuinely think that
pliant glacier
oh RELIGION I read that as region
glass ember
Based take
My idea is that you choose where you start at first then progress to which ever region you like best.
jagged linden
pikachu has become catholic 🙏
short heath
The devs straight up didn't have enough time to render all the clothes being on your character
crimson moat
I only replay BW2, emerald, platinum, and frlg because stopping at the league or whatever little story after the league doesn’t sit well with. I need something I can sink my teeth into that isn’t just competitive online
short heath
So they compensated by you being restricted to uniforms
pliant glacier
lol I'm confused I was about to say why is there 2 aphines
glass ember
<:Alph_Wheeze:1001268137288798288>
Beats you with a fish
void herald
there is on way they're ever going to make a game where you can go to every region unless you're fine with all of them being really small
cunning osprey
I know right it be fine if the last Gen didn’t have so many cosmetic options
placid junco
Mhm
void herald
that would be like multiple games worth of work to implement
pliant glacier
My idea is that you choose where you start at first then progress to which ever ...
Yeah ash can become a buddhist monk
placid junco
They might as well have cut outfit customization beyond the 4 seasonal uniforms yeah
glass ember
Yeah ash can become a buddhist monk
I'm about to Curbstomp you like Isaac Clarke stomps Necromorphs.
short heath
They might as well have cut outfit customization beyond the 4 seasonal uniforms ...
I would genuinely prefer you having no clothing options than you just having your hats, socks and shoes
It's one thing to just give us nothing
placid junco
Yeah
short heath
It's another to actually tease us with customisation that's meaningful
cunning osprey
You know I am sick of the Asian shilling that is my personal pet peeve with Gen 9
placid junco
crimson moat
Battle Rev Customization Supremacy
placid junco
It’s literally an Asian developed series my guy
They can put their own culture in as much as they want
cunning osprey
I don’t know what we have this Japan sub region
How is this gonna solve Area Zero
short heath
Calm down
glass ember
I'm sick and tired of Pikachu and Eevee being in every game and receiving more love than the Pokémon that genuinely deserve it
Cough GOLURK Cough
normal cave
I'm sick and tired of Pikachu and Eevee being in every game and receiving more l...
This
placid junco
Yeah but they’re never gonna remove the primary two mascots of the franchise
I would love it if they did
But they won’t
normal cave
Charizard is an even worse offender
crimson moat
I'm sick and tired of Pikachu and Eevee being in every game and receiving more l...
Add Charizard to this list too
glass ember
I vote for Golurk to be the new Pokémon Mascot.
placid junco
All three need some time in the freezer
cunning osprey
Like give me some Spain please
void herald
i can't really blame them for focusing on the ones that they know people like
cunning osprey
Or Maya stuff
normal cave
Because zard is not technically a mascot yet it arguably gets more love than even eevee
void herald
a lot of people would be disappointed if charizard wasn't in any given game
short heath
i can't really blame them for focusing on the ones that they know people like
I mean fuck it
placid junco
Then disappoint them
short heath
Just make every champion's ace Charizard
outer eagle
i mean Charizard being in a game is fine
void herald
whereas a lot fewer people would be upset about golurk not being there
short heath
That's gotta be what the people want right
glass ember
Shout out to every water type starter that is hated for no reason
normal cave
But greninja was more loved in polls and zard still got all the love.
crimson moat
Or make it an advertisement ingame
outer eagle
like god, not a single Kalos starter being able to Mega Evolve was such a meme
short heath
But greninja was more loved in polls and zard still got all the love.
Well Greninja got Ash Greninja
outer eagle
crimson moat
Or give it an anime car that then never got used
normal cave
Shout out to every water type starter that is hated for no reason
Oshawott my beloved
glass ember
like god, not a single Kalos starter being able to Mega Evolve was such a meme
No Kalos Pokémon besides Diance being able to mega evolve was even funnier.
cunning osprey
I hope the Gen 6 guys get Megas in Re Gen 6
glass ember
I WANT A MEGA MEOWSTIC!!!!
crimson moat
Feraligatr was so unloved, gamefreak didn’t even finish its name /s
outer eagle
it just always feels like GF makes a new gimmick with some nostalgia Pokemon in mind first, then they'll randomly throw darts to the other stuffs if they even bother
placid junco
Yeah
outer eagle
then haphazardly justify the gimmick for some bs reason
placid junco
We were lucky to get Gen 2 fan service in PLA
cunning osprey
It’s also just done the same ways each time
short heath
How many people did you think were genuinely cheering when the kanto starters got Gigantamax forms
placid junco
Too many
void herald
How many people did you think were genuinely cheering when the kanto starters go...
a lot
crimson moat
Gen 1 getting the most mega evos in XY
Every Alolan form
And half the gigatimaxes
jagged linden
I remember how in X/Y halfway through the game you get to pick a gen 1 starter for like
literally no reason
glass ember
Pinsir gets a mega evolution. That was the funniest and dumbest shit ever.
Literally gains a quad weakness 😭
cunning osprey
Heck Gen 6 and beyond have no paradoxes
sharp kernel
Do we know any of the Pokémon for the new series btw? Also when is it due out? I legitly might watch the new Pokémon solely because it’s new characters
placid junco
Literally 20% of the new Pokémon in SUMO were kanto reskins
pliant glacier
I remember how in X/Y halfway through the game you get to pick a gen 1 starter f...
one of the best parts
placid junco
You dedicated 1/5th of your new Pokémon to kanto
short heath
one of the best parts
Slow down there
normal cave
literally no reason
Not true. You get to pick one to learn about the box function and the deposit pokemon button.
placid junco
I literally immediately box the kanto starter as soon as I get it every time
crimson moat
Do we know any of the Pokémon for the new series btw? Also when is it due out? I...
You mean the new anime?
outer eagle
Thugs probably means VGC
glass ember
Who is the least loved Kanto starter? Hmm
normal cave
I literally immediately box the kanto starter as soon as I get it every time
I do that with most starters these days
outer eagle
oh wait
short heath
Venusaur
outer eagle
characters
sharp kernel
Yeah I meant the anime
normal cave
Not just kanto ones
glass ember
Nah, you can't say that. Venasur is great 😭
placid junco
Sure I mostly do it because I genuinely dislike most Gen 1 mons that didn’t get evolutions on more modern, better designed Pokémon games
glass ember
Venasaur*
short heath
Nah, you can't say that. Venasur is great 😭
I mean all the people who play the games love him
crimson moat
Cuz yeah the new anime already has a professor with a pikachu and a major character using Charizard
short heath
But the anime watchers vastly outweigh them
normal cave
If it's not cyndaquill or oshawott into the box dimension it goes
outer eagle
Who is the least loved Kanto starter? Hmm
i'd like to say Blastoise but realistically it's probably Venusaur
it's just that Venusaur is a better mon by itself so even when given less care it ends up being better
placid junco
I never really box my starter on first playthroughs
normal cave
Well, same
sharp kernel
Nah no fucking way
placid junco
I only boxed my Chespin in my current Y run because I was doing a bug type only run
short heath
I can't name a Bulbasaur fan who wasn't like "Well actually picking Bulbasaur means you have a Pokemon strong against Brock and Misty and resistant to Lt. Surge 🤓"
sharp kernel
That they made a new anime and instead of making another Pokémon shine
normal cave
But I mostly do gen exclusive runs, and I keep the starter
sharp kernel
They just gave them a pikachu
normal cave
But subsequent playthroughs I don't mind boxing them
placid junco
They gave the professor a pikachu yeah
cunning osprey
I don’t know why they didn’t make Selena Delphic
sharp kernel
Oh the professor is fine
void herald
They just gave them a pikachu
well yeah, they're not gonna just drop the mascot of the series
glass ember
The gen 3 starters looking at the gen 6 starters pointing and laughing saying
"We got your megas!!!! ha!"
crimson moat
I think the only gen 9 Pokémon in any spotlight for the new anime are the starters and ceruledge
short heath
Gotta advertise ORAS somehow
sharp kernel
As long as neither of the main characters has one
placid junco
Don’t forget how charizard got TWO megas
glass ember
Gotta advertise ORAS somehow
ORAS and USUM are my favorite Pokémon games.. too bad my Nintendo 3ds XL is broken :<
crimson moat
And was the only starter to make it in the base dex
placid junco
In XY there’s literally an area that’s a 1:1 remake of Viridian forest
outer eagle
that's the starting route yes
short heath
ORAS and USUM are my favorite Pokémon games.. too bad my Nintendo 3ds XL is brok...
USUM is so fun
glass ember
USUM hits too close to home for me sometimes 
normal cave
I have a love hate relationship with USUM
placid junco
I’m probably gonna do a type solo run of SUMO after my current Y run
normal cave
I despise alola, but it's my most replayed pokemon game
placid junco
I was thinking maybe fighting type
outer eagle
i don't personally mind USUM but everytime i try to replay it i remember how tedious it was
placid junco
I love alola but hate USUM for how it basically made Lillie a pointless character
placid junco
Like you could have removed Lillies entire family from USUM and the story would be no different or possible even better
crimson moat
normal cave
I really hate how they tried to make the mc a character. Part of the fun of pokemon os that the mc is a blank slate, letting me insert whatever I want into it. USUM mc has too much personality.
crimson moat
For reference on new anime
jagged linden
ORAS and USUM are my favorite Pokémon games.. too bad my Nintendo 3ds XL is brok...
same, my 3ds lost its internal wifi chip and to this day I don't know how it happened
took the thing apart and never found it
normal cave
USUM is fantastic for monotype runs tho
short heath
I really hate how they tried to make the mc a character. Part of the fun of poke...
I never really got that
Pokemon has done a great job of making its MC a blank slate
glass ember
Ngl, I kinda hated the pokemon Anime since everything AFTER Black and White
crimson moat
It really started to show in SM
It started to show in BW, and was really indicative by XY, and at its worst in SM
short heath
Bro SV early game has me falling a-fucking-sleep
crimson moat
BW2 supremacy for having no precedence from BW and XY onward
normal cave
Maybe except for switch games
You get a lot of detailed and pointless dialogue options, you are constantly reminded you are 11, things like that
outer eagle
my personal hot take is that i absolutely despise Barry as a rival
glass ember
my personal hot take is that i absolutely despise Barry as a rival
Based.
normal cave
If I'm constantly reminded I'm playing an 11 year old I feel disconnected.
placid junco
I like Barry more than blue but I also just
Don’t like blue
jagged linden
nobody can tell me this doesn't absolutely bop:
https://youtu.be/cUmuFp4gGcs
crimson moat
my personal hot take is that i absolutely despise Barry as a rival
Not a hot take in that people like him, but hot take in that he is a very nothing character
placid junco
Every team star song is awesome
short heath
You get a lot of detailed and pointless dialogue options, you are constantly rem...
I think that's better than you being portrayed in SV as a studious, well-mannered student who loves your school
glass ember
I like Barry more than blue but I also just
Don’t like blue
I make it a point to log into Brilliant Diamond every Saturday/Sunday to kick his ass
normal cave
Only 3 SV songs that stuck out to me are star boss, the other star boss, and final boss
crimson moat
Star grunt, final boss, gym battle for me
normal cave
I think that's better than you being portrayed in SV as a studious, well-mannere...
Just because it's better doesn't mean I have to like it
crimson moat
I came up with a top 10 at one point and I had picked out what Toby Fox worked on too
glass ember
Imma be honest, best theme is that Dragon Keeper girl from ORAS
short heath
Zinnia
normal cave
Good taste
void herald
the best pokemon theme is dialga's theme from explorers of sky
glass ember
We can't forget the main boss theme for Magma and Aqua tho
jagged linden
okay but PKMN Mystery Dungeon soundtrack goes hard dou
short heath
Explorers of Sky end credits scene never happened
normal cave
For me it's ultra necro, white treehollow, or archie/maxie oras theme
short heath
There is no postgame
outer eagle
Zinnia's theme is pretty good
jagged linden
glass ember
okay but PKMN Mystery Dungeon soundtrack goes hard dou
Shut up, Pokémon noob
normal cave
Archie/maxie theme is so good, esp that intro
normal cave
okay but PKMN Mystery Dungeon soundtrack goes hard dou
Dialga theme tho
outer eagle
I like Ultra Necrozma, Swords of Justice, and BW's gym leader theme
glass ember
Archie/maxie theme is so good, esp that intro
THE SAX
crimson moat
Colosseum/XD and Battle Rev also have banger soundtracks
outer eagle
actually i just like the majority of gen 5's theme
glass ember
Is it bad that Guzma is my favorite team boss?
outer eagle
particularly Ghetsis's BW2 one
placid junco
No
placid junco
Guzma is the best team boss
short heath
I love that theme
normal cave
Is it bad that Guzma is my favorite team boss?
Guzma is my favorite character in all of pokemon, hands down.
glass ember
Guzma uses bug types yet he STILL KICKS ASS.
outer eagle
there are a lot of cool bug types around
placid junco
Yeah but golisopod is by far the coolest
outer eagle
ehh i'd like Scolipede
glass ember
I like Galvantula and Scolipede
normal cave
Nah guzma makes masquerain scary
outer eagle
a shame that Scoli's stats aren't a bit higher
outer eagle
still good tho
glass ember
Scolipede for bug type Pseudo-Leg
short heath
And that's how we got Golisopd and Vikavolt
placid junco
Gen 7 was good for bug types
outer eagle
same for gen 5
normal cave
Make flygon bug you cowards
placid junco
Odd numbered gens just seem to be good for bugs
glass ember
And that's how we got Golisopd and Vikavolt
Vikavolt is Galvantula but significantly worse.
short heath
True
outer eagle
Scolipede, Volcarona, Galvantula and even Crustle are all good Bug types
outer eagle
and Genesect but that's hard to count
glass ember
Galvantula is God tier, I did a bug type run in SS and nobody could stop it.
placid junco
I think Ground Wormadam is really funny
Because you can quiver dance earth power
And do the Pizza Sweep
normal cave
Volcarona isn't just a good bug type. It's a meta-defining bug type in singles.
crimson moat
Remember in gen 2 where we got Forretress and Heracross but the games only make you believe we got Scyther, Beedrill, and Butterfree?
placid junco
Yeah
normal cave
Volc is one of the best mons out there
placid junco
Because head butting trees is a terrible way to encounter stuff
glass ember
Volc is one of the best mons out there
Hot Take:
Golurk.
crimson moat
Because head butting trees is a terrible way to encounter stuff
And Bugsy’s gym lineup of pokes
outer eagle
what you don't headbutt trees yourself to catch some bugs?
placid junco
Yeah
normal cave
Golurk is cool, but it does v little competetively
placid junco
But Heracross would have been kind of a menace early game
crimson moat
Give ‘em to chuck
outer eagle
Golurk at least has a cool design and a unique typing
glass ember
Bashing my head against a tree for the 5 millionth time to find a shiny heracross (I have brain damage)
outer eagle
so it doesn't really need to be vroken to carve out an interesting niche for in-game playthrough
glass ember
Golurk deserves love,it's a wholesome boy 😭
crimson moat
Heracross being a beetle that can Yeet shit
not given to a gym leader literally named Chuck
outer eagle
The mons i find the most boring are always monotypes
except for Kyogre ig
cuz Kyogre can do nothing wrong
glass ember
Cofigrigus rehehehe
normal cave
I don't think I find mons boring
outer eagle
Cofagrigus is fine
crimson moat
The mons i find the most boring are always monotypes
Time to bash Samurott’s shit moveset and mediocre stats again
normal cave
I just dislike some mons
outer eagle
like, look at Clawitzer
placid junco
voltorb/electrode is boring
outer eagle
why tf would i use this thing
outer eagle
it's both boring design wise, typing wise and even usage wise
glass ember
Random trainer: "Why won't you die?!"
Any tanky ghost type: "NANOMACHINES, SON!"
normal cave
Stick it in trick room
crimson moat
Stick it in trick room
Kid named Wailord:
outer eagle
Wailord is actually pretty fast
glass ember
Kid named Snorlax:
outer eagle
it has base 90 Speed iirc
placid junco
My first ever playthrough of Y my Amaura didn’t evolve until the fight before Diantha because I never played much after 8
outer eagle
oh 60
normal cave
Escavalier will forever be the image of trick room for me
outer eagle
what did i confuse it for
glass ember
I'm going to say this...
Gargnacl made me appreciate rock types.
placid junco
Rock types are great
normal cave
Garg made me lose a few years off my lifespan
glass ember
I used to HATE rock types because low accuracy moves.
placid junco
A friend of mine is gonna be running a Pokémon tabletop United game soonish and I made a rock type specialist for it
outer eagle
i used to hate Rock types
i still do, but i used to too
normal cave
Tera water garg is just a pain in the ass to deal with
mighty storm
You’re a Caterpie 🙂
🏳️⚧️ 💖
normal cave
Ig I have grass knot golduck now so I can deal with it
outer eagle
the 2 types i'm almost immediately meh whenever i encounter them are usually Rock and Psychic
glass ember
EXCUSE ME, POKÉMON COMPANY! You're telling ME that almost every move is 100% accuracy.. BUT MY MAN CAN'T DROP A FUCKING MOUNTAIN ON YOU AND HIT 100% OF THE TIME?!
normal cave
Mono rock was the only monotype run I ever dropped in the middle
Well, only one I dropped because I hated every second of it
glass ember
Steel types are fun.
outer eagle
every single Psychic type i like is carried cuz of the other type and not Psychic itself
normal cave
Dude
outer eagle
Claydol, Metagross
glass ember
Ehhhh
outer eagle
i play randomizers mostly so Mega-Mawile is usually fodder
normal cave
It has the highest attack stat of any mon thanks to huge power
normal cave
Wasn't it used as a wallbreaker?
glass ember
Mega Sableye being built to be a tank:
You think you're the joke?
normal cave
I remember it running wallbreaker sets
outer eagle
Mega-Mawile ran a lot of things
glass ember
Sableye is my favorite Pokémon though tbh
normal cave
Mega maw has the best typing in the game, good defensive stats, and it could nuke shit with sucker punch
bleak pine
Yeaaa bugs
glass ember
Fairy Steel being the best defensive type almost irks me.
I despise fairy types, they gave dark types a TOTALLY UNJUST WEAKNESS GRAAA
outer eagle
except one of those Fairy Steel is set of keys, while the other is a dog
placid junco
Fairy steel is arguably just the best type overall
glass ember
I want a rock ghost type.
I feel like it'd be a ghostly miner or something
normal cave
I want a rock ghost type.
I feel like it'd be a ghostly miner or something
Runegrigus
outer eagle
Ground/Flying
A diabolical typing, yet very cool nonetheless
placid junco
I’m still upset that Brambleghast barely has anything to use it’s physical attack with
glass ember
Ground/Flying
A diabolical typing, yet very cool nonetheless
Gliscor being unable to take more than 2 hits
normal cave
Gliscor being unable to take more than 2 hits
glass ember
I’m still upset that Brambleghast barely has anything to use it’s physical attac...
I'm upset that there's ANOTHER FUCKING GHOST GRASS!!!!
normal cave
Did gliscor get powercreeped that hard?
glass ember
Did gliscor get powercreeped that hard?
Pretty much
normal cave
I rember it being unkillable unless you had ice
glass ember
There's fucking 8 OF THEM
outer eagle
gliscor has been killable ever since gen 5 tbh
normal cave
Rip
normal cave
I guess lando is just better gliscor anyways
glass ember
NO, BUT THE THING IS.
I'm a ghost type lover and that's 8 wasted potential spots to do something different with ghost types.
6*
normal cave
we finally have a Ghost/Normal type
Yeah and it is really good
placid junco
It sounds like you just don’t like grass types
normal cave
Arguably the best typing to pair with illusion
outer eagle
Steel/Fairy Illusion
placid junco
I think all the ghost grass Mons are cool and decent thematic uses of the type
Aside from Decidueye
normal cave
Steel/Fairy Illusion
Also true. But for something as frail as zoro, I'd argue immunities > resistances.
jagged linden
I think all the ghost grass Mons are cool and decent thematic uses of the type
...
Decidueye is automatically based because bird
sand forge
Where my Rock/Ghost
glass ember
EXACTLY
jagged linden
sand forge
Where my Fire/Fairy
glass ember
Ghost is almost combined with EVERY type but rock.
glass ember
He got that because I suggested it uwu
normal cave
Zoro is immune to fighting, ghost, and normal, two of which are common offensive typing and had a previously unresisted coverage
jagged linden
He got that because I suggested it uwu
owo
random stream
Golurk is cool, but it does v little competetively
not quite it's a really good lower tier mon
random stream
its worst gen was 7 but gen 8 revitalized it with moves like poltergeist close combat heat crash
normal cave
Those are some insane moves
random stream
in gen 5 it had a niche in uu ru nu, gen 6 it was solid RU NU, gen 7 we dont talk about it, gen 8 it was even seen in UU then RU, but settled into NU nicely after both dlcs
placid junco
I wish brambleghast had an actually good move to use it’s physical attack host stab on aside from shadow sneak
random stream
Yeah choice band poltergeist does a million
normal cave
I see bramble as a spinnblocker with rapid spin
glass ember
I feel like the new DLC legend is going to be ANOTHER Arceus rip off.
normal cave
Bramble is v annoying in UU
glass ember
I liked Silvally and type: null though so-
normal cave
Both are fucked
sand forge
Damn that's rude
normal cave
Pokemon mythology feels... messy.
sand forge
Regigigas just comes in and rearranges your shit
normal cave
Lots of overlap
You have necro and arceus as the origins of light
You have arceus and mew as the origins of life
You have dialga and celebi with time related powers
You have gigas and groudon as previously mentioned
Makes me question if the myths are real
Or just regional mythology
glass ember
Pokemon mythology feels... messy.
That's because it is.
It's probably regional, but you do have a lot of legendaries from previous regions mentioned
normal cave
Also, the games tend to go "yeah the myth is true here is the pokemon in action",
And you can't have them ALL be true
glass ember
Take in consideration that there are theories that each Pokémon game is its own centered universe
And hell, that's pretty much confirmed.
normal cave
Would necro be a constant then since ultra space?
glass ember
It gets real messy with X and Y due to a timeline fracture.
glass ember
Would necro be a constant then since ultra space?
Technically yes, so would Arceus, they're both omniscient beings
normal cave
One is a creator god and one is more like a lovecraftian being the way I see it
normal cave
IK necro created light in the multiverse
glass ember
Necrozma is just an evil god.
It devours all, hence it being referenced to like a black hole.
normal cave
glass ember
Pokémon has a very sloppy mythology as you Said though.
normal cave
Makes me question why the game allows you to let it eat nebby
outer eagle
Ghost is almost combined with EVERY type but rock.
wait what type was Cursola
glass ember
There was this one YouTube video where someone made the Pokémon legendary family tree and it was almost reminiscent of the Greek mythology gof family tree
glass ember
wait what type was Cursola
Plain Ghost.
glass ember
Makes no sense, but I suppose it's due to not having much of a body remaining.
normal cave
But lorewise why not slap water or rock on it
outer eagle
Cursola is literally dead dried coral husks
No reason why it couldn't be Rock
glass ember
Obviously, you're going to want a physical body for a Ghost rock type. Look at Golurks Ghost ground and Ageislashes Ghost Steel
normal cave
Gimme the possessed japanese rock as a rock/ghost honestly
glass ember
It kinda bugs me that no minor Pokémon are really important to Pokémon mythology (non-legendaries)
normal cave
It kinda bugs me that no minor Pokémon are really important to Pokémon mythology...
True. IRL myths and religions have important animals in them.
glass ember
Gimme the possessed japanese rock as a rock/ghost honestly
I think the rock with a shadow that steals souls would be good, but I really want a ghost miner made of rubble and maybe its final evolution has diamonds popping through
There are a lot of stories of haunted mines, so it'd only make sense
glass ember
It is. But ultimately the society we live and work on is because of those who died before us.
normal cave
Aye
outer eagle
damn getting real quick
normal cave
Pokemon has some fucked up shit, but basing a pokemon off something like mine accidents would be kinda tasteless
glass ember
Underneath its facade Pokémon is a very dark story.
glass ember
Pokemon has some fucked up shit, but basing a pokemon off something like mine ac...
It wouldn't be tasteless, other games do things like that, plus it's not one tragedy it's a thing that happens globally.
normal cave
Aye
glass ember
I mean, fuck, Phantump is literally the ghost of a child that died alone in a forest.
glass ember
You can't argue something is "too dark" for Pokémon.
jagged linden
@glass ember check dms 
glass ember
The lore has so much horrible shit in it due to people like Lysander.
normal cave
True
glass ember
Hell, in the first Pokémon game and in the anime a fucking Marowak gets beaten to death.
glass ember
Not to mention Joey's raticate.
The point is, Pokémon is a dark franchise painted in light colors and cute animals for children.
The original game wasn't intended for a child audience but eventually Pokémon became popular among children.
normal cave
maiden flax
Didnt golurk also have no guard strats?
normal cave
That's a new perspective for me
glass ember
Lysander legit tries to committ mass genocide, dude.
normal cave
Lets me appreciate the games more
maiden flax
Give me a UU mon to try and build for ou
maiden flax
Not a popular UU mon to use in OU
But like
Something uncommon
normal cave
Ah
outer eagle
imma need to look at UU stats currently
normal cave
Uhhhh...
glass ember
Pokémon really could've almost made for a good post-apocalyptic or horror story, but ultimately, it became marketed towards children.
maiden flax
Gastrodon sounds boring to build around cause itd just end up being walking wake check.exe
normal cave
Try gallade
maiden flax
Gallade ive already done
normal cave
Hmm
normal cave
Scream tail stall
maiden flax
Scream tail is like knowingly usable in OU for specific niches
Give me the spicy stuff
The really funny ones
You can recommend ones lower than UU too
outer eagle
Bellibolt 
maiden flax
Ohhh thats a good one
outer eagle
who isn't
normal cave
There was a "Bellibolt Player" in like 1100 OU
Was a pincurchin bellibolt type team
Had soak and parabolic charge
They felt like a sort of boss on my way up the ladder
Felt good to beat the bellibolt player.
sharp kernel
Bellibolt is honestly not a bad Pokémon
Pretty bulky and super easy to get double ko’s
normal cave
@random stream you are a ledyba now
As Renren awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his Pokéball into a low-statted insect.
bleak pine
Iron Fists and Noodle Arms
bleak pine
Man, bug types in Gold/Silver were amazing.
Still loved stuff like Heracross and Forretress.
I'd imagine there's gonna be so much fun to be had at the National Park whatever that place is.
P sure the National Park was something else
The bug-catching contest was held there, yeah
bleak pine
Caught a Pinsir
Gets 4th place
1st place was a Weedle
Yep
It's very rare, but you can find one in the Bug-Catching Contest
As is Pinsir
Some of the other bug-types require you to use Headbutt against specific trees.
It's famously how you'd find Pineco and Heracross
normal cave
So in theory, raz can get a scizor
bleak pine
Well, if they can start a trade they can
normal cave
Unless no trades
She'll probs have to content herself with scyther
Which, tbf, is still v strong
bleak pine
That's the cool thing about Scyther; it's evolutions are sidegrades instead of improvements.
Even Kleavor, released much, much later still is a sidegrade similar to Scizor
normal cave
Sidegrade would imply they are on equal grounds
Scizor has incredibly strong priority, meaning it doesn't care about the speed loss
bleak pine
To be honest, it isn't so cut and dry, but for the most part each of the three do something well enough in their respective fields
normal cave
Meanwhile kleavor can set up hazards and dish out intense damage all at once
bleak pine
And my Axe
normal cave
Scyther's niche is outdone by its evolutions
It does have a faster defog/uturn
But in uturn's case, slower is often better
bleak pine
Moves that swap out mons are in a weird spot
normal cave
And in terms of speed, bullet punch has priority
bleak pine
In Scyther's Case, you'd want to swap into something incredibly durable to soak up or nullify whatever it is your opponent is gonna want to smack Scyther with
But anything slower, it's mostly cause if you did it manually, it would happen before your opponent tries something.
It's why to my knowledge some movesets actually use Teleport, a move that does nothing but swap a mon out with no additional effect, unlike Baton Pass
normal cave
Yep
It's a powerful effect
Because it lets you keep momentum
Say your opponent manually switches. Your attack goes after that, so you can swap in the proper answer
Same goes for them using u-turn earlier
You can also react to them staying in
bleak pine
Also why Clefable has the kind of reputation it has: It just doesn't care at all what you're opponent's gonna do.
normal cave
The point is, it lets you react to their move. And if you put it on a slow bulky pokemon like scizor, then you can also use it to get a frail offensive mon out for free
bleak pine
Yee
golden lance
@tacit sphinx can i be scyther?
golden lance
mighty storm
<@!268199601817780234>
tacit sphinx
y’all want an extremely cursed thought
ledian may actually be necessary for the run’s success
latent sleet
what you up against
normal cave
ledian may actually be necessary for the run’s success
Because of screens or something?
I can't believe ren is going to carry the run
tacit sphinx
Because of screens or something?
Azalea Town rival fight has a Quilava
Light Screen + 110 SpD might be the only thing that can tank it
normal cave
Wezl power too stronk
normal cave
Fire, flying, rock
Falkner is going to eat your bugs
Butterfree and pidgeotto have roughly the same speed
latent sleet
wont butters fucking die to quiliva first
golden lance
Oh
latent sleet
golden lance
Oh no
lucid moth
do u have a heracross
golden lance
Uhhhhhh
tacit sphinx
do u have a heracross
Not yet
golden lance
Are we allowing trade evos?
lucid moth
no need for trade evos
tacit sphinx
Are we allowing trade evos?
I mean I can do them
lucid moth
just hera
tacit sphinx
But the only trade evo is Scizor and I have to catch a Magnemite for the Metal Coat
normal cave
Miltank also outspeeds your whole team
tacit sphinx
Thief is Kanto iirc
golden lance
Btw
normal cave
Catch and release is fine
golden lance
What's the endgoal? Lance or Red?
tacit sphinx
What's the endgoal? Lance or Red?
Red
golden lance
Ah
lucid moth
red is the final boss in gen 2
latent sleet
that sounds miserable
golden lance
Btw
lucid moth
once u can get heracross and scizor
tacit sphinx
Yeah like
lucid moth
u should be good
tacit sphinx
Once I hit Azalea Forest
normal cave
Foretress
tacit sphinx
Ren carrying the entire run:
lucid moth
lol
normal cave
Tfw fucking ledian is mvp
tacit sphinx
The other thing about Ledian is that I genuinely think I need its coverage
It gets Ice Punch and Thunderpunch
normal cave
lucid moth
but its got no stats
tacit sphinx
but its got no stats
You’re not wrong
But 55 SpA coverage might actually be the best I get
Butterfree only gets Confusion
normal cave
Slap toxic on shuckle once you get it and then stall them out
lucid moth
just brute force it with hera
and scizor
the 2 of them should carry the game
coverage means little when stab megahorn
tacit sphinx
Catch and release for Metal Coat sounds like the most boring thing ever though
It’s a 5% chance for a Magnemite to hold it
normal cave
Raz
lucid moth
scizor just hard carries though
normal cave
I had to do a 1% chance to get a bagon for my usum dragon run
Monotype can be cringe sometimes
Also you can soft reset to save on balls
golden lance
Catch and release for Metal Coat sounds like the most boring thing ever though
The secret is to catch them in batches
tacit sphinx
Actually
lucid moth
scizor's best thing is the base bulk
tacit sphinx
I can get Thief
lucid moth
and having agility and sd
tacit sphinx
in Mahogany
lucid moth
to baton pass into heracross
tacit sphinx
I didn’t realise that
golden lance
tacit sphinx
You know what baffles me btw
Have not seen a wild Weedle yet
I know they exist in GSC
lucid moth
u can do restalk hera with megahorn and seismic toss
tacit sphinx
Where the fuck are they
lucid moth
buffed off scizor set up
normal cave
Hera gonna nuke some fools
tacit sphinx
You may be thinking a bit far ahead btw Myst
lucid moth
yea im thinking end game
tacit sphinx
My current goal is killing every Bellsprout in this tower
tacit sphinx
Confusion time
Nope
Ren and Zane are 4x resists
I’m just mashing Tackle and watching them slowly die
I need EXP
normal cave
Btw do you have sleep powder on butter?
tacit sphinx
Btw do you have sleep powder on butter?
Level 15 iirc
normal cave
I’m just mashing Tackle and watching them *slowly* die
Sounds like gsc meta from what I know about it
lucid moth
will u be going for venomoth and pinsir?
team sounds like itll be venomoth, pinsir, scizor, hera, forretress ?
tacit sphinx
team sounds like itll be venomoth, pinsir, scizor, hera, forretress ?
Something like that
tacit sphinx
Baton Pass and trapping moves are banned
lucid moth
with effort
normal cave
HM slot?
tacit sphinx
...wait how are we surfing
HM user
normal cave
So we have a 5 mon team
tacit sphinx
So we have a 5 mon team
Not really?
tacit sphinx
I can just Surf to where I need and use the PC
tacit sphinx
no baton pass and no trapping moves sounds a bit too arbitrary
it’s a joke because that’s the bp ban in gsc
normal cave
Why use trapping moves vs the ai
lucid moth
it does if it realizes it cant kill u
normal cave
Really?
lucid moth
and iirc gsc has plenty of defensive mons with no real coverage
so u trap them and set up
bleak pine
How be the run so far?
tacit sphinx
How be the run so far?
I’m grinding to beat Falkner which is a very strange sentence
bleak pine
Alright, gonna step on toes
You wanna know what the worst game in the series is
And I use this very loosely cause for all I know this isn't exactly a game
It's this thing.
A Pokedex of every mon released circia Black/White... but it's like, 59.99 for some ungodly reason.
To its credit it does try to differentiate itself from the other 3D 'dex that was released on the 3DS by including every entry without the need for Spotpass, as well as including a good few other features... but once again I hardly think that's worth the full price of a game for the 3DS, when the predecessor was completely free
golden lance
Idk still better than pokemon smile
crimson moat
Reminder that 3D pro is where the modern models of gens 1-5 originated, and not XY
bleak pine
Yeah, it's neat.
One cool thing about it though, was that it also had a list of moves available in Black/White, as well as descriptions and statistics for each. It will even let you know what mons learn it and through which method.
spice rivet
Reminder that 3D pro is where the modern models of gens 1-5 originated, and not ...
Honestly 3D Pro was/is the Pokemon equivalent Metal Gear Solid Ground Zero/Kingdom Hearts 2.8.
mighty storm
Ah yes my favorite kanto mon
Pidgeotto, Scyther, Gengar, Poliwrath
Steelix gen 2 evo of Onix
random stream
why am I ledyba 
pseudo goblet
why am I ledyba <:deadinside:823133346573713442>
Is it worse then Spinarak or better? Lol
random stream
Way worse
golden lance
why am I ledyba <:deadinside:823133346573713442>
Kid you're literally carrying the run rn
pseudo goblet
bleak pine
Ren best Ledyba
slate marlin
Sorry I had to be directed here. Anyway, who’s your favorite cute Pokémon?