#Pokemon

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normal cave
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Feels like a stab in the back ngl

sand forge
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Nebby should've gotten in the damn bag

warm sky
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Why do they allow megas when they cause salamence to murder

normal cave
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They didn't used to do that when megas were introduced

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Why did they make the wholesome boi salamence a murder machine upon mega evolution

sand forge
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Also Glalie breaks its jaw

normal cave
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Gen 7 did all sorts of fucked up shit and I don't like it

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Why did they have to make ttar suffer so much

warm sky
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And then there's pinsir

normal cave
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Pinsir/amphy are having fun

placid junco
normal cave
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This implies chikorita is a successful design

placid junco
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It is

normal cave
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It is objectively the worst starter in terms of combat prowess afaik

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In terms of cuteness, yes, it's awesome

outer eagle
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Personally, Meganium's looks are only average for me tbh

fading stratus
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Yeah bayleef looks better

placid junco
kind vortex
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we could live in a world where wild charge doesn't exist and volt tackle had proper distribution, but nope

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gotta make pikachu special : ^)

obsidian jacinth
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I used to pretty bummed about the direction Pokemon went in balance or viability. But then I played Crystal Maeson and just forgot about that fact for a bit.

outer eagle
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and then there's Normal with 2 120BP Recoil moves

pseudo goblet
spice rivet
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Jfc I dont know what it is but today I have done nothing but outplay opponents but still lose to RNG.

warm sky
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Cursed

tacit sphinx
young magnet
clever saddle
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How do I deal with a 6* poison Tera ditto?

fading stratus
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Just summon a Magikarp first make it transform into Magikarp

maiden flax
fading stratus
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Head Charge

obsidian jacinth
sand forge
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Made it above 1500 Elo for the first time

sand forge
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Rng be damned

sand forge
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Fuck it, we Aqua Step

maiden flax
bleak pine
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Official TR Lyra

pseudo goblet
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Oh shit KEKW

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Those weird fanart of protags joining TR became right 😂😂😂

pseudo goblet
solid oxide
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@tacit sphinx

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Ez

normal cave
solid oxide
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this was my

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10th? attempt

pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
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IWANTITIWANTITIWANTITIWANTIT

pseudo goblet
normal cave
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Wezls

pseudo goblet
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Okay why is this Phanpy so cute omg flooshed

bleak pine
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It’s Phanphy, that’s a given

sand forge
pseudo goblet
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Cursed ConcernedFroge

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And that’s coming from me ConcernedFroge

sand forge
fading stratus
sand forge
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Crit, freeze, unfreeze

golden lance
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Common quag W

sand forge
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Rngesus smile

fading stratus
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What are the odds

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What's 2% of 6.25%

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0.125%

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Or 1 out of 800 chances

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That's actually not even that bad of odds

sand forge
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I got 1/1250

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Unless I'm missing something

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10% to freeze, 20% to unfreeze, 4% to crit?

normal cave
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It's 1/1 because it happened

fading stratus
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crit is 6.25%

sand forge
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Ah ok

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Now factor in Toxic missing

fading stratus
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Toxic is 85% accurate ig

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So 85% of 0.125%

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It's almost 1 out of 941

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Rounded down

sand forge
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3/16000

fading stratus
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I got 17/16000

sand forge
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To miss?

fading stratus
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Well the toxic didn't miss

sand forge
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It did

fading stratus
sand forge
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The first toxic did

fading stratus
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If it missed it's 1 in 5333.333333333333 chances ig

sand forge
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Delicious

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Love those odds

fading stratus
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Let's account for first toxic miss and second toxic land

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It's 1 in 6274.5 chances

fading stratus
# sand forge

So the whole image can only occur once in 6274.5 games

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Not considering held items

sand forge
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Did we factor in Quagsire

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Being a friend

normal cave
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Quag being a friend is 1/1 odds

fading stratus
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We only factored 2 toxics freeze and thawing and crit

normal cave
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So no effect on end results

jaunty wren
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okay looking into it

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apparently BDSP just gives you really easy access to a boatload of legendaries/mythicals?

spice rivet
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Ya the Pal Park replacement

crimson moat
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Boatload of legends isn't exactly groundbreaking for pokemon at this point

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Mythicals, idk

outer eagle
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ever since ORAS being able to catch a ton of legends has been the norm

spice rivet
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Ya, basically for VGC

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Though BDSP i guess they just threw it in

bleak pine
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Aaaaaaaa

maiden flax
pseudo goblet
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Bruno is the true rock type user in kanto

warm sky
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Zane, are you missing the bad joke here or

pseudo goblet
latent sleet
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ohhhhhh

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cheems im dumb

pseudo goblet
maiden flax
solid oxide
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Ez pz

pseudo goblet
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Simisage joins them

outer eagle
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starting a BW2 rando nuzlocke and i critted my first encounter Gabite so the signs aren't good Hahaa

warm sky
normal cave
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Wezl frens

sand forge
outer eagle
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welp

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got swept by Hyper Beam Lickilicky into Arceus Hahaa

fading stratus
harsh path
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TIL Oricorio were a Low Tier God

bleak pine
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I gotta say

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Channel needs more pins

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Feel like more funny can be put on display for all to see here.

maiden flax
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They were terrible before gen 9

harsh path
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and afaik it took a good move and mechanics that were advantageous to their playstyle

pseudo goblet
warm sky
sand forge
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Back under 1400

fading stratus
normal cave
pseudo goblet
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YOU RE THE ONE WHO IS TRAPPING HIM

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W- We are going with this joke, Really? Sure I guess

fading stratus
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What's the joke

pseudo goblet
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What’s the famous phrase involving a flying pig

fading stratus
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If pigs could fly I'd fly a pig?

maiden flax
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When pigs fly

crimson moat
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Which was the whole joke that people thought the lechonk line would go

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Generic flying that evolved from pig

fading stratus
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Oh lmao

bleak pine
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oh jeez I just now got the joke with this Lechonk

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I'm terrible at getting jokes

sand forge
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It's not a great joke

bleak pine
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I'm still ashamed that I didn't catch onto the joke

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aaaaaa

spice rivet
spice rivet
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Low hanging fruit but eh

vocal torrent
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In due time they will be longnose dont worry

warm sky
mighty storm
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doge weasel

normal cave
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Wez-waiiiiiit that's not a wezl

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Absolutely horrendous

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I mean, the art is GOOD, I just hate it

latent sleet
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what michevious tricks is the canine planning

clever saddle
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All of them

pseudo goblet
bleak pine
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Aaaaaaaa

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LECHONK

tacit sphinx
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What Pokemon got hit worst by Special becoming 2 stats in GSC

golden lance
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Chansey

bleak pine
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Ninetales?

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Like, it could have the same stat total as Arcanine in an ideal world, but nope

young magnet
harsh path
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Huh

young magnet
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VGC players are running Fissure on Ting-Lu

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trying to cheese the 30%

golden lance
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And this marks the second time people are non ironically running ohko moves in gen 9 vgc

harsh path
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Which isn’t much but it’s weird that it’s happened twice

fading stratus
bleak pine
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Yeaaaaaa, go for broke

fading stratus
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Dondozo
Torkoal

And now this

golden lance
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Oh yea right

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Forgot toarkol

fading stratus
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Are waking wake and leaves legal or just treasures of ruin?

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For season 3

bleak pine
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Is the case for Ting Lu being that it's so sturdy combined with it's stat distribution and it's own ability?

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Compared to more traditional cases for one-hit KO moves being used for mons like Lapras, Wailord or the like?

latent sleet
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tcg wo chien reaction

bleak pine
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It's pretty cool card.

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Attack does 60 to any of your opponent's mons for each prize card they taken, so at it's most powerful it deals around 300 damage to anything.

pseudo goblet
bleak pine
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...Of course if you're dealing 300 damage, you got bigger things to worry about than damage output.

fading stratus
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It's bulky af and if you're against something you effectively can't out or do much against you can just fish for fissure

bleak pine
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go for broke

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But then again, if you're down to the last card, having a mon out that gives your opponent two prize cards for it being KO'd isn't gonna matter much, so by all means, wither things away

crimson moat
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Maybe Lost Box / Giratina picks it up, but it is a really bad card to put down early

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Retracting my thought about Forretress decks playing it, since you would have to blow up Forretress late to get that to work.

bleak pine
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I really wished self-destructing cards did a whole lot more.

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You'd think knocking your own mon out would deal more damage than like, 150 or so

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Or dealt damage to every mon your opponent has in play, but eh.

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At least that card did it in a very creative way... even if it is kinda 'meh'

crimson moat
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The problem are the outputs.
There's no attacker that can justify being fully set up in exchange for your opponent being 2 prizes ahead.

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Blissey V, Giratina VStar, Regidrago VStar, and Serperior VStar are probably your best bets, but:

  • In Theory, Lost Box simply works better for Giratina, as does Arceus
  • Serperior hits devastating damage once, and then proceeds to have lackluster damage for the rest of the game
  • Regidrago is less consistent, but has more attacks to use, than Giratina and can't use Lost Box well. Regidrago can still use Arceus tho.
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Blissey's probably your best bet and even that needs other tools to work well, since it can only set up 1 attacker this way. Even then, Blissey will generally get KO'd in 2-3 hits without going ham on recovery. Blisstank, Blissey's old metagame plan, also gets worse and worse the more SV meta decks come around.

tacit sphinx
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Wait are people no memes running OHKO moves in VGC now

fading stratus
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OHKO moves have been played since start of the series 1

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It's just that they aren't that popular

pseudo goblet
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Wha-

fading stratus
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Can confirm there's a lechonk filter

sand forge
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Why do people suddenly like Lechonk

fading stratus
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Because Pig tasty

outer eagle
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wym suddenly

normal cave
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I think there's a Lechonk terra raid now, which explains the renewed interest

pseudo goblet
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AAAAA I love these reverse evolution fluff fluff fluff

normal cave
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Mini crustle is adorable

sand forge
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Mega Dwev looks like it has seen shit

normal cave
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Big dwebble still lacks the complexity or intimidation of an evolved form

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It looks too cutesy to be evolved, and not overdesigned enough

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Buuuuut I guess not all evolutions are overdesigned or tough looking. Like Raichu-A, Jumpluff, and Furret

pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
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Oh yeah btw, this is the THIRD TIME pokemon gave love to Lechonk this week

spice rivet
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1st Kadabra card in like 20 years lfg

normal cave
silver vigil
placid junco
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Damn floatzel really stole skewda’s job that badly hun

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Hun

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Huh

fading stratus
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What does Alomomola even do

outer eagle
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in singles?

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Wishpass Regenerator

fading stratus
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Oh

random stream
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very phys bulky pivot that can send enormous wishes

fading stratus
outer eagle
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hey don't let your memes be dreams

fading stratus
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Anything that doesn't have enough presence on the field just doesn't work in doubles

outer eagle
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where's your Politoed

fading stratus
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Dlc

normal cave
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Not available yet

fading stratus
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I wonder if you can make perish work in singles

normal cave
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Yeah, sort of

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Altaria in UU does that. Not as an archetype tho, as a single mon you run in your team.

outer eagle
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Perish trap worked extremely well in singles tbh

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back when Mega Gengar was around

fading stratus
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Mega Gengar does same thing every format

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It probably doesn't icy wind in singles atleast ig

golden lance
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Pelipper dropping

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Well, it's been a good streak

warm sky
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But my UU is mid so

outer eagle
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time to give Politoed some buffs

normal cave
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wake me up when tier change rolls out or when it is announced as an april fool's joke

normal cave
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non-fungible pokemon

sand forge
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Porygon regional variant, Grass Normal, the Fungible Pokemon

latent sleet
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due to right clicking this pokemon population is now abundant, which upsets porygon enthusiasts

obsidian jacinth
fading stratus
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It still hasn't Hahaa

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Best one is bounce

obsidian jacinth
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You could at least turn it into a Z-move later, but those were nixed. KEKW

outer eagle
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hey having to run HP Flying wasn't really that much of an upgrade

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b4 the split

fading stratus
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Yeah Z Flying Bounce was atleast okay

outer eagle
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ironically ever since gen 6 Fly itself is stronger than Bounce

fading stratus
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Did you play Z bounce or Z fly

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I forgot

outer eagle
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Gyara doesn't learn Fly

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so it had to make do with Bounce

fading stratus
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I forgot

outer eagle
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Lando on the other hand

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ran Z-Fly all the time

fading stratus
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I liked Assault Vest Lando EZ

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Knock Off Superpower Rock Slide Earthquake

outer eagle
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not sure why

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but the Fort Wayne stream has so many dislikes

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compared to past regional streams

fading stratus
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Probably because legendaries are legal

warm sky
last musk
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Opened a box of scarlet and violet today with my partner, pulled both miraidon ex and gardivior ex alt art

outer eagle
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double Freeze

fading stratus
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Lol

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Yo policy abom

outer eagle
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another double Freeze monkaGIGA

fading stratus
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Dude sacking hard

outer eagle
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this man's a legend

fading stratus
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Thaw

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Lmao

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Treads Hahaa

warm sky
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Bruh

latent sleet
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happy birthday

fading stratus
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Where can I get this magic power

maiden flax
placid junco
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Shhhh

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Let me have favoritism

pseudo goblet
mighty storm
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the sunkern tail

bleak pine
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So happy, even on fire

fading stratus
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It'd be funny to get a sunflora

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It'd be at least playable

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They made deliberd and jigglypuff playable so what's stopping them from making it playable too

pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
mighty storm
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roomba

pseudo goblet
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Roomba with sharp object

mighty storm
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Khu's newest riddle

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Lemme guess: ||Mightiest Mark is the equivalent to Gmax factor for this special new new form||

placid junco
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Wouldn’t it be funny if he was just flat out wrong

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That’d be nice

fading stratus
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That'd be hilarious

sand forge
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Finally, the Galar Fire Type gets its Fighting back

warm sky
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So ||Zard becomes an actual dragon, we get another fire starter with fighting shit, poison frog, surfing pikachu, flightless no longer and... I guess insect samurai because that's a thing?||

tacit sphinx
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I just had a funny realisation

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Unown’s attacking stats are tied so that HP always has relatively the same damage output in Gens 2-3

snow oasis
tacit sphinx
normal cave
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Also, Peli is now listed as uu in the smogon set lists. Does that mean the change is live?

warm sky
sand forge
outer eagle
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Miraidon is on almost 2/3 of the teams huh Hahaa

fading stratus
outer eagle
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then again this is Ubers

fading stratus
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i wonder if Koraidon or Miraidon will be more popular after they get legal in doubles

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or both in same team like kyogre groudon

normal cave
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They have no anti-synnergy

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As far as I'm aware

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Why not run both?

fading stratus
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Koraidon Miraidon 4 paradox teams PauseChamp

normal cave
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P much

tacit sphinx
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Maybe a strange question but what do y’all think the most powercrept mon is

fading stratus
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Ig you probably play a talonflame or something

tacit sphinx
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I’m not talking about mechanical changes

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Like Tauros fell the fuck off because of mechanical changes

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I mean like what mons just got really brutally powercrept

fading stratus
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Gen 1 Tauros was broken

normal cave
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Oh as in lost power

tacit sphinx
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I’m kinda thinking Celebi?

fading stratus
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Honestly just Mewtwo

normal cave
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Mewtwo is still bonkers

warm sky
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Eh, disagree since it's still good in Ubers

outer eagle
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Genesect right

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in terms of Ubers at least

warm sky
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If It dropped to RU or something sure

tacit sphinx
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Well in other tiers

outer eagle
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dude went from broken in Ubers to unviable in one generation

normal cave
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Lax also got hit hard

tacit sphinx
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Yeah Lax is like

fading stratus
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Arcanine every format once cat comes out

tacit sphinx
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Went from top 2 or top 1

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to nonexistent

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But I think Lax fell off more because of mechanics

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Like EVs meant not everything was maxed out so Lax got hit hella hard

fading stratus
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Arcanine was around 80% in VGC 2017 before the extended Dex
It fell off hard after that

tacit sphinx
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Jesus

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You know

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I used Arcanine in my only VGC tournament

fading stratus
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Which format

tacit sphinx
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Fuck

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XY I think?

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It was a trick room team with Ampharos as the mega

fading stratus
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Never played XY format so no idea about it

tacit sphinx
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I mean

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I also had no idea

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Oh you know what

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This is a weird one

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Machamp

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Machamp was never, like, a top threat

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But Conk is literally just Machamp but better

fading stratus
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Does machamp have guts?

tacit sphinx
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Yes

fading stratus
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Oh it does?

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No guard is better anyway but still

tacit sphinx
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But like the only thing Machamp has is a tiny bit more speed

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The extra Atk Conk has is more relevant

fading stratus
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Also like better bulk

tacit sphinx
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Like the only thing Machamp has is No Guard Dynamicpunch and Close Combat is probably better

fading stratus
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Machamp doesn't learn Mach punch either does it

warm sky
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Also example of a powercrept mon

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Chien-Pao vs Weavile

fading stratus
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Yeah that

tacit sphinx
fading stratus
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Its so wack that Pao, Mane, Koraidon and Miraidon have same speed

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Konami did it weird Hahaa

tacit sphinx
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You know what’s hilarious

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Machamp has Bullet Punch

fading stratus
maiden flax
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Zorua hisui is in the same tier as normal zoroark

fading stratus
tacit sphinx
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Duh

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I actually wondered something recently

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It’s a dumb thought experiment but

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What if STAB was 1.25x instead of 1.5x

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Cuz like STAB is huge

fading stratus
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Talking about stab

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Is basculegion any good?

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If it isn't idt we have a decent adaptability mon

maiden flax
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Yes

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Its good

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Cause last respects

tacit sphinx
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You know what I think is fun about GSC OU

maiden flax
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Go boom

tacit sphinx
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Machamp’s entire presence in the metagame is essentially based around having like the only good Fighting move lmao

fading stratus
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OU council are cowards and will ban legion because of respect anyway

tacit sphinx
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“Nice argument, unfortunately, +1 crit Cross Chop”

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Look at what gets Cross Chop

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Imagine if Hera got it

outer eagle
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Wasn’t Primeape pretty good at some point

tacit sphinx
normal cave
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Ape gets eviolite now

fading stratus
normal cave
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this is UU legal

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I forgot u-turn on scizor

normal cave
maiden flax
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Woo!

normal cave
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UU is gonna be fun

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tfw I get to use my OU ladder team on UU without worrying about Walking Wake

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I copied some of Ren's sets for this too, namely golduck and toedscruel

maiden flax
normal cave
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IT HAPPENED AGAIN

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SAME GUY

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252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Water Floatzel Wave Crash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Salamence in Rain: 332-391 (100.3 - 118.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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@warm sky wezl always outspeeds and oneshots salamence under rain unless it has intimidate

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this is actually so stupid I can't

maiden flax
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Common salamance L

normal cave
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if they tera steel they die even harder

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I don't even need to click ice spinner unless they have intimidate

warm sky
normal cave
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if they do, it's special mence, which means

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252 SpA Salamence Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 172+ SpD Tinkaton in Rain: 66-78 (17.6 - 20.8%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery

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this team just doesn't care about mence

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biggest threat to this in UU that I can think of is gastro, but I have duck and scizor for grass coverage

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oh yeah, slither wing can force wezl to switch

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had my first UU rain mirror. Brute bonnet kinda scary, but they ran kilowattrel as their special attacker and that shit did nothing

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hurricane thunder weather ball choice specs is nice and all, but like

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it's cringe

tacit sphinx
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I'd like some advice.

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I wanna do a Crystal challenge run but I've done Nuzlockes, single mon runs...

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I don't know what to do next.

golden lance
tacit sphinx
golden lance
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Fair

obsidian jacinth
fading stratus
obsidian jacinth
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Swinub only. Pig up.

warm sky
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Hoge

normal cave
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252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Water Floatzel Wave Crash vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Scream Tail in Rain: 556-656 (128.1 - 151.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Peli will not last long in UU

warm sky
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Yeah it's probably gonna rise back to OU

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Or UU will just ban drizzle

normal cave
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Peli suffers from sun and walking wake being common in OU

crimson moat
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To borderline hell

normal cave
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and from clodsire being common

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in UU, the best checks to the swift swim abusers don't exist

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the best they have is, like, wo chien

silver vigil
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me omw to bring wooper into uu

normal cave
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quag is uu

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and it can't stop rain

silver vigil
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meant Paldea

warm sky
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Can't even abuse Scizor to counter rain because steel resist

normal cave
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252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Water Floatzel Ice Spinner vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Tera Water Wooper-Paldea: 47-56 (14.9 - 17.8%) -- possible 6HKO after Stealth Rock

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wooper-p real

normal cave
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+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Golduck Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Tera Water Wooper-Paldea: 205-242 (65.2 - 77%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

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yoo

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252+ Atk Technician Scizor Trailblaze vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Tera Water Wooper-Paldea: 138-164 (43.9 - 52.2%) -- 71.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

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ok wooper-p actually just lives through most of what this team can dish out

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real

golden lance
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Can it do something in return tho?

normal cave
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nolol

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it just forces floatzel to switch and wastes a turn of rain

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it CAN use toxic

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which would be really annoying on float or dux

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but nothing is stopping me from just sitting on scizor and clicking trailblaze

warm sky
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Wouldn't gastrodon be better

normal cave
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not vs golduck

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you need to tera poison on gastro

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or you die to grass knot or trailblaze

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and if you tera you die to bullet punch

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hmm, actually, yeah gastro is better

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running the numbers it's just better

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you still need to tera on gastro or you die

normal cave
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He's not on water absorb

pseudo goblet
normal cave
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sushi friend

normal cave
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runs gastro, a grass type, and another weather setter
still loses

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misplayed with golduck in the end, should have expected the switch

normal cave
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drizzle cannot remain legal in UU this shit is toxic

random stream
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
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I mean, I understand the concept, but pure fairy seems better for this thing

normal cave
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yeah, electric makes no sense here

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just because it's fast it doesn't mean it's electric. and just because it's electric doesn't mean it's fast.

crimson moat
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If hit by a fire move it should turn to fairy rock

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and yes drop electric

normal cave
#

just give it well-baked body

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flavorwise, it works like what you described. gameplay wise, it's better since rock sucks.

warm sky
sand forge
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Can I get an uhhhh flying type with Earth Eater

placid junco
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give Magcargo earth eater

sand forge
#

That'd be neat

warm sky
silver vigil
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I have a slight suspicion

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the OHKO moves will be dexited for gen 10

normal cave
#

what do you base this suspicion on?

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just a gut feeling?

silver vigil
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fissure is being used in VGC

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@normal cave

bleak pine
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You mean people don't have mons with sturdy? Madness!

warm sky
#

... I mean the point is to kill bulky mons before their bulk matters

crimson moat
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If they were to dexit like that, Swagger probably would have been gone in the first cut

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Also Sturdy got an entirely better use case gen 5 onward so that point is kinda moot anyways

bleak pine
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Yeah, it was a joke.

crimson moat
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Can't wait to see the even stupider counter meta of Evasion Tanks

bleak pine
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Well, actually I'm really wondering if people are using a bunch of mons with sturdy in response to this influx

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Or that

normal cave
#

double team meta incoming

latent sleet
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its just like the anime PogYu

normal cave
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252+ Atk Choice Band Floatzel Liquidation vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Water Floatzel in Rain: 238-281 (76.5 - 90.3%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

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why did they not click wave crash on the final turn

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I guess they had no wincon after wezl died so they needed it healthy

normal cave
#

I HAD REFLECT SWITCHED ON MY CALCULATOR

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I KEPT PLAYING AROUND A NONEXISTENT REFLECT

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also, I think my team has issues

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I kinda just copied ren's OU team and some of my stuff without thinking it through

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need to actually adjust the team for the format

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peli, wezl, golduck and tink have been outstanding, at least, but tink dies to the mirror, and scizor/toedscruel have not been working for me

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I think I'll run talonflame over scizor, and maybe gastro over toed

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swapped toed for gastro and turned scizor into heavy duty boots with defog and swords dance.

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hopefully peli gets quick banned by tomorrow

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bulky quaqua is everywhere rn

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@jagged linden your favorite is insane in UU now

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does well vs wezl

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252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Water Floatzel Wave Crash vs. 200 HP / 180+ Def Quaquaval in Rain: 248-292 (68.6 - 80.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

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maybe not as well as I thought, but if you get a bulk up off it works

tacit sphinx
#

So

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How should I replay Crystal this time

normal cave
#

chikorita only

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not bayleaf, not meganium

tacit sphinx
#

Already did that

normal cave
#

then you've beaten the game

tacit sphinx
#

Single mon runs are kinda bland to me anyway

normal cave
#

you can't top that

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it's time to ascend

golden lance
normal cave
#

yeah try a romhack

tacit sphinx
#

But I wanna do it on hardware

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That way I can bring it on a commute to work

golden lance
#

Hmm

normal cave
#

have chat pick your team

golden lance
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Hear me out

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Metronome only run

tacit sphinx
tacit sphinx
#

Like every new route I have to bother you

normal cave
#

whenever raz tries to use a move

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you're right, you use it on commute, so you need people awake to answer you. not a good idea.

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choccy's run works better

tacit sphinx
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By the way

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Y’all wanna see the most confusing screenshot ever

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Someone just sent this in the Smogon GSC Discord

normal cave
#

no context crystal

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tbf I love arbok

tacit sphinx
#

I could try a monotype but

normal cave
#

as a former monotype player

tacit sphinx
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Because of GSC distribution it might take ages for the run to kick in

normal cave
#

no

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monotype runs each feel different, and they are fun

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but yeah getting a starter is hell

tacit sphinx
#

Well let me think

golden lance
#

Easiest way is to just getting a shitty mon traded for you

normal cave
#

I still remember the hell that was early mono dragon USUM

tacit sphinx
#

In Crystal, before you beat Falkner, your options are…

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Grass, Fire, Water, Flying, Bug, Poison, Ghost, and Psychic IIRC

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Oh, wait

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Normal, Rock, and Ground too

normal cave
#

late game mono dragon was beastly, but early game you died to dexio

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many, many times

golden lance
#

Still better than bw1 monotype options

normal cave
#

his fucking smoochum/glaceon team

tacit sphinx
#

The problem with Psychic is that uh

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your only option is

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Unown

normal cave
#

or was it the other one whose name I can never spell right

tacit sphinx
#

Gen 2 is also slightly devious in that like the starters don’t gain types so you can’t be like “oh I’m doing a Gen 6 Psychic run so I’ll pick Fennekin”

normal cave
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one of the two kalos nerds had a mono ice team, including a glaceon, and that was probably the hardest fight I've had in any pokemon game

tacit sphinx
#

Let me think

normal cave
#

gen 5 mono bug was hell, and gen 7 mono rock was so boring I abandoned it

tacit sphinx
#

Out of GSC monotype, thinking about it

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Ghost would suck

normal cave
#

or was it gen 6?

tacit sphinx
#

Like

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There are literally two Ghosts

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and one is in Mt Silver

golden lance
#

I kinda want to do a gen 4 monotype run

tacit sphinx
#

It’s basically a one-mon run

tacit sphinx
normal cave
tacit sphinx
#

Psychic would suck until Azalea Town

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Because you only have Unown

golden lance
#

What if i do uhhhhhhhh

tacit sphinx
#

But then you can pick up Slowpoke and Eggy

golden lance
#

Mono steel

normal cave
#

hmm

golden lance
#

Wait raz hear me out

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Mono ground

tacit sphinx
#

Is anyone else intimidated that I know what mons are available in GSC this well

normal cave
#

pilpulp

normal cave
golden lance
golden lance
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Cool

normal cave
#

ah yes, obscure rse facts

tacit sphinx
#

Actually thinking about it

normal cave
#

wally faints ralts

I... I did it... it's... MY POKEMON!

tacit sphinx
#

Psychic run would die really fast

normal cave
#

do not do psychic raz

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just because you can, doesn't mean you should

tacit sphinx
#

Something tells me Unown and Slowpoke will have trouble with Scyther Fury Cutter

normal cave
#

if you DO, let me know in advance

golden lance
normal cave
#

it's esp funny in randomized runs

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because the tutorial has a chance of wally's mon fainting, which forces him to fight with no pokemon

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aka a placeholder glitch mon

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this can result in the game crashing if you don't sequence stuff right and the ai does funny stuff

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...idr the details of the glitch, it's been so long since I played randomized emerald

golden lance
#

Hear me out raz

#

Mono fairy

#

Just pretend the type exists

#

So it's basically worse mono normal but azumarill is there

normal cave
#

raz do a run of only friend-shapped mons

tacit sphinx
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Normal: Sentret, Hoothoot, Teddiursa, Pidgey, Rattata, Spearow, Dunsparce
Fire: Cyndaquil, Growlithe
Water: Totodile, Poliwag
Grass: Chikorita, Bellsprout, Hoppip
Rock: Geodude
Ground: Geodude, Phanpy
Poison: Zubat, Gastly, Spinarak, Weedle, Bellsprout
Flying: Hoppip, Zubat, Pidgey, Spearow, Hoothoot, Ledyba
Psychic: Unown lol
Bug: Caterpie, Weedle, Spinarak, Ledyba
Ghost: Gastly

normal cave
#

no cool mons, no weird mons, only rotund blobs with happy faces

tacit sphinx
#

This is Crystal only

#

GS is different

normal cave
#

if a mon is not shaped like a friend you can't run it

golden lance
normal cave
#

yes

#

...wait, is that a hgss thing?

obsidian jacinth
#

Nah

#

GSC had an onix trade

tacit sphinx
bleak pine
#

I love battles in which the only move you can use is Metronome

#

Everyone uses the same mon, but it's all up to luck what comes up

normal cave
#

But at that point you can just run 2 bots to click metronome since there are barely any decisions

#

...not like my current team has many decisions

tacit sphinx
#

Anyway Metronome only might be fun but it’s infeasible

#

In GSC that’s just like

#

Togepi only

bleak pine
#

Yeah. You can't really catch Clefairy until you hit Kanto.

#

...Can you?

#

It's just entertaining to see a Clefairy go through the animations that something like Head Charge provides

normal cave
#

Oh, animations yes

bleak pine
#

You don't get that same satesfaction doing this on a simulator.

normal cave
#

No

#

But a sim lets you do it if you have no-one or no way to do it with

bleak pine
#

Well, to be fair, getting Metronome on mons is painful to do

#

So there's that going for shodown

obsidian jacinth
bleak pine
#

Well, yeah, in that case you technically can

obsidian jacinth
#

I do not remember the rest though, because currently I'm playing through Maeson and I keep thinking "oh yeah Cleffa at night in Dark Ca- waaaait wrong game." UmaruCry

tacit sphinx
#

It’s confusing because Whitney’s gym has so many

obsidian jacinth
#

She can go on the bullet train. Or maybe she just walks to Saffron. Who knows?

tacit sphinx
#

Just learned something extremely amusing

#

Shedinja gets Sandstorm

golden lance
#

and final gambit

tacit sphinx
#

Somehow Sandstorm is funnier to me

#

shows up
causes a raging whirlwind of sand
refuses to elaborate further
dies

normal cave
#

safety goggles are good on sheddy

pseudo goblet
bleak pine
#

loooong

tacit sphinx
#

????????????

bleak pine
#

what

pseudo goblet
#

@normal cave @normal cave @normal cave

normal cave
#

F R I E N D

tacit sphinx
#

You guys ever read Gen 1 movepools

#

They’re actually hilarious

normal cave
#

h o r n a t t a c k

tacit sphinx
#

@normal cave nah

#

Check this

#

You know Moltres is caught at Level 50?

#

Your new Moltres exclusively knows Peck and Fire Spin

#

and it will learn three more moves by level up

normal cave
#

does fire spin work like wrap?

tacit sphinx
#

Yes

normal cave
#

because ik wrap is toxic in gen 1

warm sky
#

Don't forget that Moltres is actually good in gen 1 tho

normal cave
#

no sneaky pebbles

tacit sphinx
#

Moltres has this hilarious tendency to suddenly become good once a gen is no longer current

#

Poor Pidgeot has a fucking barren movepool too

#

No Drill Peck and no Body Slam

#

You get

#

M i r r o r M o v e

normal cave
#

the mirror move failed

pseudo goblet
#

Friend wants water

normal cave
#

thirsty friend

#

smh doesn't know water is free

pseudo goblet
#

Omg I didn’t even saw the final image KEKW

normal cave
#

I just love the little sushi fish so much

fading stratus
normal cave
#

Elon is trying to distract people from the fact that he is trying to dismiss a 256 billion $ lawsuit involving dogecoin

#

He wants people to see "twitter is now doge" when they search for "elon doge" instead of... you know... that.

tacit sphinx
#

What a loser

normal cave
#

Money wise, he is the biggest loser in human history

fading stratus
#

Not billion

harsh path
#

Don’t even think Elon has that kind of capital

#

258 billion

#

Nvm, barely over that

normal cave
#

I'm very tired atm

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
#

Literally while clicking the link you posted

warm sky
normal cave
#

Tough, serious, protective wezl and mild, mellow, creepy wezl

#

I fucking love this series of pics

pseudo goblet
#

Creepy Goh costume peepoCross

waxen moat
#

I love it

pseudo goblet
#

After the rain my beloved PeepoLove

pseudo goblet
#

AAAAAAA

It’s a little tank! fluff

normal cave
#

fren

bleak pine
#

Y’know for a mon I am not supposed to heed too much, Poochyena made me learn a lot about hyena’s

#

Like, the whole “Dog Software on Cat Hardware” thing, how they are actually more reasonable than the lions they are supposively competing with (for one their hunts are much more successful, which means they don’t scavenge as much as lions do), and a good few other things

normal cave
#

hyenas are cool

bleak pine
#

They are, funnily enough. Just, they got a bad reputation, which is unfortunate

normal cave
#

blame disney

#

film industry is responsible for so many animals getting a bad reputation.

#

hyenas, cats, sharks...

#

meanwhile dolphins and elephants get a good reputation despite one of them being somewhat similar to humans in terms of unnecessary cruelty, and the other being one of the deadliest animals on the planet in terms of how many people are killed by it per year.

bleak pine
#

Elephants kinda zig-zag the whole thing

#

They can be reasonable, but due to poaching activities, a lot of elephants grow up without parents

normal cave
#

why is the dolphin pokemon also based off the goody-two-shoes super man

bleak pine
#

So they grow up to be the African Savanna equivalent of shitty teenagers

#

They pick on Rhino’s, all cause they are really dumb

#

At least media in recent times get Hippo’s right

#

They are herbivores and look cute but are the most feared herbivores on the planet

normal cave
#

aren't hippos the most dangerous of the large animals?

bleak pine
#

Yep

normal cave
#

ik humans and mosquitoes are the two most dangerous animals to humans. iirc mosquitoes moreso but I can't remember.

bleak pine
#

It says something when Steve Irwin, a guy who wrestled with crocs, said that the most dangerous thing he ever done was cross a River that had hippo’s in it

normal cave
#

I love animals, but mosquitoes are kill-on-sight for me

bleak pine
#

Yeah

#

They are one animal that many people agree we’d be better off with

#

No lie, it’s been suggested that they can very well be brought to extinction and everyone would be better with it

normal cave
#

the only animal I feel no remorse killing. them and ticks/fleas/other insects that parasitize humans or my pets.

bleak pine
#

Or at least, the bloodsucking kind

#

There’s several species of Mosquito that can be alright

normal cave
random stream
#

Palafin is the akechi of pokemon

bleak pine
#

A real hungry jungle

normal cave
#

I'd imagine the rainforest would be long gone without it

normal cave
warm sky
#

Palafin really is the clark kent of pokémon

Super strong hero, hated for being so strong

normal cave
#

although that's probably just my distaste for dolphins

#

I don't hate palafin for its strength

#

I hate it for being a dolphin

#

I'm not a seasoned competitive player, I'm just racist.

bleak pine
#

Few other things: apparently Hyena’s are very much the best example of scavengers, since they leave very little behind when scavenging. They can digest bones and even it’s marrow

normal cave
#

bone marrow is such a great source of energy, if you can get to it.

bleak pine
#

Yep~

normal cave
#

humans can get to it with tools

#

and it tastes so fucking good

warm sky
#

Tru

#

Especially on lamb

normal cave
#

mmm

#

lamb marrow

#

there's this dish my family makes from uzbekistan, irrc, that uses these massive beef bones

#

and sometimes you get a large clump of marrow still stuck in the bone and eating it is just the best

obsidian juniper
fading stratus
#

Wo chien's soldier
Posts a Ting Lu Pic

sand forge
mighty storm
bleak pine
#

oh lawd she comin'

tacit sphinx
#

Okay I wanna commit to a Crystal monotype run

#

What type should I go with

tacit sphinx
#

I’m currently thinking Bug or Ground

tacit sphinx
warm sky
crimson moat
golden lance
tacit sphinx
#

Lvl 5 Blissey Present vs. Kingdra: 370-435 (104.8 - 123.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

#

actual gsc calculation

golden lance
#

Explain

crimson moat
#

present is really messed up in G/S

tacit sphinx
#

There’s an error in damage calculation when Present is used against a Pokemon whose sole typing or secondary typing is special

crimson moat
#

Essentially it makes it so that instead of Level or stats mattering for damage calc, only the typing of pokemon matter

#

Types are put on an index. Physical types are 0-9
Special types are 20-27
Damage = ((2 x Defending type 2 ID +10)/250) x (10/Attacking Pokémon type 2 ID) x Base + 2) x Modifier

#

As a result, a physically typed pokemon using using Present on a specially typed pokemon does insane damage, regardless of stats or level.

#

This bug is consistent in G/S, but was patched in Crystal

#

(will still occur in link battle between a G/S game and Crystal)

tacit sphinx
#

Delibird always beats Tyranitar in a 1v1 because it outspeeds and has Present wesmart

golden lance
#

How relevant is this in practice?

crimson moat
golden lance
#

Showdown

tacit sphinx
#

So no

crimson moat
#

irrelevant

#

literally only matters if you involve a physical Gold or Silver cartridge

golden lance
#

I mean

#

SD also had some g/s only glitches

#

So

crimson moat
#

Well I gotta take that back after looking it up.

#

It is in Smogon as the G/S version of the attack

#

But, the only pokemon that runs it competitively is Chansey in GS UU

golden lance
#

I see

crimson moat
#

Blissey has it on an option on a heal bell set but it is actively competing with 6 other moves

#

Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Toxic
Light Screen
Reflect
Sing

late urchin
#

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@outer eagle @fading stratus fun fact, toxapex's best set in OU now is offensive jigglypog

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av 4 attacks did super well twice in SPL and it's decent in ladder

fading stratus
#

Knock off, whatever replaces scald, and?

random stream
#

it lost knock and scald, lemme get the set

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Toxapex (M) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 224 SpA / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Ice Beam
  • Acid Spray
  • Surf
  • Infestation
outer eagle
#

as long as it's not Merciless meme

#

i see

random stream
#

infest acid spray lets you trap and beat bonbozo dirge clodsire

outer eagle
#

Stallbreaker Pex

#

interesting

random stream
#

in SPL one person used tera fight tera blast to destroy kingambit

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the other it was warding off the dangerous hydreigon w ice beam

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oh also @lucid moth ping since this is rly amusing

lucid moth
#

4 attack pex is nutty

random stream
#

I dont know how 53 spa can hit so hard but here we are

outer eagle
#

Modest and almost max Investment and Chip damage do be nice

#

36 speed is quite specific

random stream
#

I dont remember what thats for

harsh path
#

Could see more this month too

lucid moth
#

just has to hit

#

pex will outlast most threats with natural bulk + regenerator

#

especially with av

#

and tera type

random stream
#

Yeah gamer, but in those replays it was doing some absurd stuff

#

like doing 40+ to hydrei

lucid moth
#

tbf super effective + hitting vs relatively low defenses hits different

harsh path
#

I imagine Wake (cannot remember the full name of that Suicine dinosaur ass) being around also makes Offensive Toxapex

random stream
#

The opposing Dragapult used Shadow Ball!
(Toxapex lost 27% of its health!)

Toxapex used Ice Beam!
It's super effective!
(The opposing Dragapult lost 57% of its health!)

The opposing Dragapult is hurt by Infestation!

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yeah it did like near 60 to pult

#

and pult isnt even frail

lucid moth
#

pult is quite frail imo

outer eagle
#

this looks logical all things considered

random stream
#

hmm

lucid moth
#

75 spdef

#

and built on 0 hp/def/spdef

#

some pult sets are also running -def or spdef

outer eagle
#

frail mon without spdef investment taking a high bp SE hit

lucid moth
#

so they can do decent damage off u-turns

random stream
#

oh this was the breakout game

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it killed gambit with tera fight tera blast
then survived tera fairy iron valiant moonblast t 3% to one shot w sludge bomb

#

I think acid spray is more popular now though

harsh path
#

But yeah good on Toxapex improvising to a new niche

#

Gen 9 is a genuinely funny generation

lucid moth
#

i think a bigger surprise is how stall has basically become mono-water this gen

#

alommomola, dozo, pex

random stream
#

mola hard carrying ngl

lucid moth
#

alomomola has always been decent in the back

#

but it has finally gotten a real chance with tera

random stream
lucid moth
#

yea this really reads like the ultra greed thing that has happened

#

maxing out damage numbers at the cost of defenses

#

which works excellent if stall isnt in the meta

#

stall in the meta:

random stream
#

it wasnt too bothered by losing scald or knock either

lucid moth
#

this is also why dnite and breloom and scizor to an extent wont really lose niche in ou

random stream
#

chilling water or whirlpool works fine enough

lucid moth
#

so long as ppl are spamming low defense max damage output stuff

#

4 attack pex never beats bulky quaquaval basically

#

but vs max spatk/spe -def nature hydreigon for optimal u-turns and such?

fading stratus
lucid moth
#

it wont beat pex and it also eats fat damage

harsh path
#

Pex Nukem

#

Hail to the King, baby

random stream
#

since it gets by w wish regen

random stream
#

The opposing Dragapult used Draco Meteor!
(good mon lost 29.7% of its health!)
The opposing Dragapult's Sp. Atk fell harshly!

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av pex blobjuice

tacit sphinx
#

Regenerator?

random stream
#

Yep

lucid moth
sand forge
#

Which is a shame because Merciless is a cool ability

lucid moth
#

its on the wrong mon

sand forge
#

Ye

normal cave
#

Merciless dragalge with draco meteor

#

Your life ends when you switch into the tocxic spikes

fading stratus
#

Can't be having paralysis

sand forge
#

Shout out to Reuniclus having Regenerator and it isn't its best ability

pseudo goblet
#

Iron drone

#

Random name I gave for paradox Beldum