it has some doubles moves i think
#Pokemon
wild imp
spice rivet
I could def see it being like:
Sig move/Hydro
Draco
Tera Blast/Flamethrower
Protect
spice rivet
Damn, not bad
wild imp
yeah thats abt it
spice rivet
A fast Snarler acting as support to like a bulky attacker like SD Hands could be neat
wild imp
leaves is just offense tho
mon cant take hits
grass psychic is like
so bad
overall
wild imp
it has uh
helping hand and ally switch
but its frail
so idt those are actually usable
like you dont want helping hand
if the mon deals 10 million damage itslef
spice rivet
Ally Switch
Thanks I hate it
wild imp
in terms of attacks its very limited
it has leaf blade/solar blade and psyblade
as the "good" stab
which are like fine moves ig
and like the rest is the fighting moves and some okay coverage
tacit sphinx
Is it a hot take that past names > future names
wild imp
no
its pretty cold
im so ready for doubles to be the only format where enamorus therian is usable
tacit sphinx
The hell is Enamorus
wild imp
its the new genie
this mon
its gonna be usable in double since it has taunt tailwind
and beats amoongus
tacit sphinx
When did we get a new genie
wild imp
legends arceus
all the legends mons are coming by home
i think
also both of the legendary dogs
but with nerfs
samu hisu is such a nice mon
mostly because of ceaseless edge tho
golden lance
Sandsear storm
pseudo goblet
Really not sure I should start playing other games I haven’t I play in steam/switch, or completing SV dex
So I get shiny charm
void herald
phantump is even more fucked up if you think about how trevanent can control trees
with the implication being that trevanent deliberately kills kids in the woods to create more phantumps
placid junco
I love
maiden flax
Just like lando T
They are good not cause they are op but cause they fill in for so many roles really well
hexed valley
yeah the usage charts are monthly, and chien was banned in the middle of the month
so for like 2-3 weeks it contributed 0 usage to the monthly stats
its tournament usage for the time it was legal was basically always top 5
insane mon
normal cave
https://twitter.com/imsleepyzen/status/1639767969931878401?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEV...
@jagged linden 3rd image
jagged linden
I don't know what the context here is
normal cave
Gay birb
From what I can tell it's just two mons being paired
Idk much about the synergy of armarouge and gholdengo. Maybe one covers the weaknesses of the other, but I can't quite see it.
Gholdengo fits on many, many teams, so idk why it is paired particularly with armarouge here.
normal cave
Ohhhh
OU is a tier on smogon's unofficial battle simulator for single battles
It's the most popular tier, with very strong mons (but not too strong like miraidon and chi yu)
All the pokemon in the comic (except gimmeghoul) are popular mons in OU. Arma and Gholdengo are popular there, too.
@jagged linden hope this explains the context
warm sky
Can somebody explain this Gholdengo and Armarouge thing?
The artist's previous comics ship them
It's literally just that
Nothing complex. Just gay Megaman and Eldlich Cheese String Edition
warm sky
Also smh, where's homophobic ferrothorn
https://twitter.com/imsleepyzen/status/1635145309587410944?t=UXCvUy3F2CvtFL4LVxEecg&s=19 @normal cave
normal cave
https://twitter.com/imsleepyzen/status/1635145309587410944?t=UXCvUy3F2CvtFL4LVxE...
Also that cheems pao
solid oxide
what pokemo have you had the most success with?
tacit sphinx
what pokemo have you had the most success with?
It’s been a while but the classic is Charizard
You start with Heat Wave so if you get a Monster House early you have some defence
pseudo goblet
Now that I think about it, shame on me not holding this while watching Ash last episode 
tacit sphinx
In general any mon that starts with 1. a room hit and 2. reliable damage is good
Optimal Purity Forest gameplay is based around avoiding using your limited resources
solid oxide
I will say that i've found purity forest to be not that difficult, since there are certain pokemon that are very well equiped to deal with it.
Entie makes the dungeon honestly actually just easy
wait are we talking about regular or dx
tacit sphinx
DX? You asked for help with it
solid oxide
i was more looking for other pokes that are good
finding out what pokes work will in the dungeon is actually kind of fun
solid oxide
Bet
warm sky
@ alph
pseudo goblet
outer eagle
wow Sun has some abyssmal winrates
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Yeah
warm sky
I contributed!
By sucking at sun
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Is dredgnaw just unplayable in singles or something
outer eagle
we all know true gigachads use Eletric Terrains 
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Pincurchin 
outer eagle
Tapu Koko cannot come back soon enough
mf should stop lazing around in Alola and travel the world a bit
random stream
Is dredgnaw just unplayable in singles or something
Yeah no reason to use it over barra or float
Also thats weird because sun is really good into rain. I think its other factors like sun being really bad into hydreigon right now
and being more prepared against
outer eagle
floatzel rising through the ranks is one of the moments of all time
normal cave
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Floatzel is probably a lot better in singles than doubles honestly
random stream
Indeedee
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Since you don't have the fear of dying to a well timed protect
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Also thats weird because sun is really good into rain. I think its other factors...
Azu removes sun's best chance vs rain
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Brute Bonnet
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If they terra the wake, their entire team melts
If they don't, it dies and their team melts
bonnet
jaunty wren
https://i.redd.it/pmht2js371qa1.png
what's SPL?
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Brute Bonnet @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 152 HP / 252 Atk / 104 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Seed
- Tera Blast
- Sucker Punch
- Spore
outer eagle
hey Lilligant just won some big VGC tourney half a month ago
random stream
Yh it's one of the best sun mons right now
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hey Lilligant just won some big VGC tourney half a month ago
It won the tournament from 2 weeks ago, yeah
Got top 4 in the one before that
random stream
You spore peli usually
normal cave
Since loafing dice kinda bonks peli
random stream
you can catch the likes of kingambit, amogus and corviknight w tera fire tera blast
same w volcarona
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After you erruption is broken ryu
outer eagle
Arcanine burning your own Flutter Mane to prevent it from getting Spored by Amogus is certainly one of the plays of all time
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outer eagle
my reactions exactly
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When did it happen
outer eagle
last night's Charlotte stream
normal cave
Ren does bonnet run defensive set or offensive?
normal cave
Gotcha
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must be pretty frustrating to play against tho
Yeah
Especially in a non open sheet format
Where you just have no idea what it's running
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Btw ryu was OCIC open sheet too?
normal cave
Unless you can squeeze scizor in, but with wake legal, you can't
outer eagle
that idk
normal cave
You need to run azu over scizor
outer eagle
i'm not exactly a hyper watcher of VGC or anything
normal cave
Azu is good, but I really miss scizor
I could run Scizor over my dragon
Currently on dragapult for special attacker and a fast draco meteor
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Play scope lens hydreigon
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Scope lens hydreigon was decently popular in VGC last format (series 1)
No idea what it does in singles
normal cave
I've seen it in sibgles
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Yeah
outer eagle
Draco Meteor do be the best move of its type
random stream
Hydreigon is super insane in singles right now
outer eagle
other moves simply don't have the same kind of neutral coverage
outer eagle
actually
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Draco Meteor do be the best move of its type
Also like fire tera heat wave
outer eagle
maybe if there is some relatively fast Fairy that has Focus Energy and learns Fleur Cannon
that could work
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Only one mon learns fleur cannon
outer eagle
i've heard that with Ruins being around Stall is a legit top tier strat in VGC
not sure how credible that is
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The commentators were talking about it in stream
Ruination stall turbo
Week 1 will be like chien Pao dragonite everywhere
pseudo goblet
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When's the wrestler again?
pseudo goblet
Masked Royal?
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Incineroar
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It was played in a few defensive tapu builds
Which played like nature's madness electroweb sky drop protect
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pseudo goblet
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Probably
pseudo goblet
https://tenor.com/view/cartoons-attack-gif-11146284
Pfft! I’m gonna use this 
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Last gen 7 format was like 2018?
outer eagle
cuz in Singles Fini was just more bulky Defogger, Bulu was Banded/SD, Koko was Pivot/Revenge Killer, and Lele was Stallbreaker/Specs
so i never really saw that in Singles
fading stratus
Ah makes sense
Doubles was chaotic
Koko almost always had z crystal
Lele and fini played like specs or scarf
pseudo goblet
What Bulu do
pseudo goblet
Hmm
outer eagle
Bulu being monke Banded is truly the unifying factor
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Yeah
outer eagle
everyone loves to click Wood Hammer
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Or horn leech
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It played like horn leech wood hammer close combat and forgot something else
I think stomping tantrum if it got it
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Oh yeah superpower
outer eagle
in Singles Bulu usually had Stone Edge ig
or am i misremembering
yeah Stone Edge
makes sense coverage wise
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Might've stone edge in doubles too I never played bulu so no idea
I really liked monke Lele
Scarf moonblast best
pseudo goblet
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Doubles had like psyshock moonblast gleam and fourth coverage move generally energy ball or something
normal cave
The slug
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I think you played ice hp sometimes
normal cave
Gastro is such a nice mon
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For salamence and lan t
outer eagle
in Singles it was Moonblast + Psyshock/Psychic + Focus Miss + HP Fire
some hyper Stallbreaker sets run both Psychic and Psyshock
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What did fini do in singles
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Ah
In doubles it was like wiki berry
Calm mind protect scald/muddy water moonblast/dazzling gleam
outer eagle
its movepool was like Defog/Scald/Nature's Madness and something else
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Stuff like Lan t and salamence love to setup
Oh yeah bulu played rock slide as fourth move
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Either banded or scarf
outer eagle
Rock Slide is just Double's Stone Miss
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Sometimes vested
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Rock Slide is just Double's Stone Miss
Yeah
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Stone flinch
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Rock also flinches
outer eagle
well in Doubles it's more like 50% ig
normal cave
Giving iron leaves koko
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Maybe fini won't be most used Mon after Lan t and wrestler trust
outer eagle
interesting you say that
Fini was like maybe the least or second least used Tapu in Singles
iirc
outer eagle
in Singles it was Koko, Lele, Bulu = Fini iirc
normal cave
Fini was fun in tcg water box
outer eagle
Koko and Lele specifically also because Hawlucha + Seed
that was a pretty dominant strat in gen 7
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Start gen 7 you mean SM?
normal cave
Lele lucha seed sounds disgusting
outer eagle
USUM as well tbh
warm sky
what's SPL?
Smogon Premier League
outer eagle
before the expanded dex in SM i just spammed Rain all the way to top 500
literally braindead
normal cave
Rain is fun now
normal cave
You click wave crash
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I also played like a defensive team with milotic and lax iirc
And Celesteela spam leech seed
outer eagle
those are certainly names i haven't heard in a long time
i see Celes plays the same in Doubles
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It was protect heavy slam leech seed flamethrower with lefties
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I saw flash cannon and sub sometimes ig
outer eagle
exact same set as Singles
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Ig protect makes sense with lefties
outer eagle
Protect + Seed + Lefties is standard yeah
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Else protect is very rare in singles and played by 95% of mons in vgc
outer eagle
even Ferrothorn runs Protect occasionally
even tho it has like 15 moves it wants to run
just cuz Seed + Lefties is broken
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You know what was popular in SM?
Gigalith
I don't think you can say same for singles
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The whole 2017 format was without expanded Dex iirc and 2018 was like USUM with mega
In vgc
outer eagle
Magearna has never been allowed in doubles pre-Swsh right
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2018 was expanded Dex actually
2019 was the one with megas
I somehow thought SS was 2018
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Magearna has never been allowed in doubles pre-Swsh right
No legendaries are
Oh that
I somehow thought you meant restricted mons
outer eagle
that thing absolutely terrorized Singles OU
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You didn't have magaerna in vgc, yeah
outer eagle
meanwhile Marshadow tore Ubers a new one
random stream
What did fini do in singles
did a lot, some ran trapper with whirlpool nature's madness, some ran cm, some ran trickscarf, there was also defog
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No mythicals at all iirc
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it was super popular bc of how good misty blocking status was and dealing with mons like ash gren
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Gotcha
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only real issue was lack of reliable recovery so if it got knocked off that sucks
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Did it ran wiki or lefties
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Lefties
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am gonna build a gen 9 ou hydreigon team soon 
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It ran Wiki in doubles and was a lot more proactive ig
outer eagle
iirc
normal cave
I think I'll just run hydreigon in rain
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am gonna build a gen 9 ou hydreigon team soon <a:bongokitty:868236109145059379>
Better run that 100% crit set
random stream
I'm going sub np 
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normal cave
Until we get kingdra, I want another special attacker
outer eagle
at one point i ran a Regenerator team of Tornadus-T, Toxapex and Tangrowth
got called some names quite a bit
normal cave
Once kingdra comes to ou I am running everyone's favorite gen 2 dragon
outer eagle
"favorite" is certainly a way to describe it
normal cave
It is the only one
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Indeed
normal cave
Also I adore it
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Golduck 
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at one point i ran a Regenerator team of Tornadus-T, Toxapex and Tangrowth
Toxapex was unplayable in doubles as well
normal cave
I just love kingdra, it's just sleek and cool. And I love armless dragons.
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he is not Gold
Blueduck
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outer eagle
speaking of Golduck
this reminded me of that meme of Golduck being a Primal Groudon counter
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What was the meme
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Lmao
outer eagle
and a Surf oneshots
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Primal Groudon dies to a bubblebeam
I forgot what primal Groudon was paired against in VGC in USUM
Xerneas I think?
placid junco
I was gonna say primal Kyogre but I’m pretty sure that’s not correct
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Yeah
Double primal team meant you almost always had weather control
Were primals legal in SS btw
Never paid attention to much Pokémon the whole of SS because all of my friends who I used to play with stopped playing
maiden flax
what wasn't Primal-Groudon paired with?
mega ray
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Ray Groudon team were definitely real
maiden flax
Wait really mega ray and primal groudon?
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Got top 16 in 2016 world's iirc idk about 2019
Have to check
Apparently Groudon ray team got top 32 at NAIC and top 16 at Daytona regionals in 2019
maiden flax
Cause i get normal ray and primal groudon but mega ray and primal groudon is surprising
normal cave
Broken mons
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Mega ray and Primal Kyogre was like one of the most popular leads atleast
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You see pairing up would suggest it was 2 restricted pair up
Ig magikarp was restricted because it was never played
I don't think Groudon was ever paired up with Kyurem Black or White
Don't quote me on this
maiden flax
It was never paired with pachirisu as far as im aware
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Ah yes the legendary pachirisu
maiden flax
Pachi's job was taken by a group of mice for gen 9 😔
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Oh yeah maushold even learns super fang
placid junco
Maushold also has a license to kill
pseudo goblet
Okay, thought of a topic for y’all, which Pokemon you guys think gonna get hard nerf next Gen
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Oh yeah what's more popular in Ubers korai or mirai
outer eagle
currently Ubers as in exclusively SV doesn't really mean much
but Miraidon
according to popular census Korai synergizes on more teams, but Mirai is just individually better
so everyone runs him
random stream
can they bring back pdon please 
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Piraidon
outer eagle
Miraidon Discharge in VGC 
outer eagle
in which format
outer eagle
hard to say for Singles
People wanted Walking Wake to get banned but it didn't so...
random stream
nothing is super egregious right now but we'll see, rn it's getting v difficult to actually answer mons though
one turn can result in an instaloss
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in which format
Well VGC doesnt ban mons
outer eagle
didn't SwSh have like some bans
each series had their own banlist iirc
or am i mistaken
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No idea didn't pay attention to SwSh
outer eagle
Big Stall being a thing in Doubles while Singles is struggling vs Offense is truly some Bizzarro World shit
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Is bundle alive in singles
random stream
Died v early
outer eagle
Bundle died like immediately after Mane right?
wild imp
yeah
random stream
yh
wild imp
next up i want shed tail sent to the shadow realm
i want cyc back
and orth to be univable
i dont actually care abt shed the move
random stream
orth needs to die
wild imp
ban shed solves 100% of the issues
theres 0 reason to ban 2 mons becuase of one move
home meta fun tho
all the home tours are gmaing
sand forge
What'd Orthworm do
wild imp
i got my teams ready
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OU council cowards will ban basculegion too after home
wild imp
tera normal clod mofos
when i click a diff move
frfr ong
legion is a nice mon tho
defo UU material
post respects ban
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They'll ban legion over respect
wild imp
thats univerally seen as a bad move
its like 3 bans over 1 move
thats like banning all baton pass users
sand forge
Who else got banned over Last Respects
wild imp
both legion tho
sand forge
ah I see
wild imp
i am betting you basculin will aslo be an issue
respects and shed need to die
btw im expecting treads to drop to UU
sand forge
Why is Orthworm op
fading stratus
Shed tail
wild imp
shed tail
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Literally it
sand forge
Ah ok
sand forge
What were they thinking giving a Regenerator mon that sort of move
fading stratus
Yeah it's like unplayable in doubles
I had fun with Ortho into dozo for a while in season 1
random stream
Why is Orthworm op
Shed tail enables a lot of degenerate autowin setup strats
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wild imp
volc is just MU fishing
volc is like w/e in low ladder
but once you see people who know how to use it
its like
damn didnt have the out
i guess i just get 6-0d
if volc doesnt go by home
its never leaving OU
becuase of enam
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Volc my beloved
wild imp
This tells you all you need to know abt enam
252+ SpA Tera Ground Enamorus Earth Power vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 240-284 (51.8 - 61.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Genies of healthy meta
wild imp
ground is the best tera on it btw
like you arent giving anything up
overall
+1 252+ SpA Enamorus Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 240 SpD Assault Vest Slowbro-Galar: 222-262 (56.3 - 66.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
best answer btw
normal cave
normal cave
Does wezl outspeed and oneshot?
normal cave
Wrong wezl
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volc is immortal kid, it'll never go away
normal cave
I meant floaty
wild imp
252+ Atk Choice Band Floatzel Wave Crash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Enamorus in Rain: 555-654 (192 - 226.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
yes
but its normally slower
outside of rain
252+ SpA Enamorus Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Floatzel: 301-355 (96.7 - 114.1%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
if it hits you once
you die
btw luna is mid asf
pseudo goblet
Oh don’t mind me, y’all continue https://twitter.com/ozzyoisi/status/1639812626212352001?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
wild imp
is that red and ash?
pseudo goblet
Obviously
wild imp
nice for them
outer eagle
really want to see BW remake and how GF redesigns N
pseudo goblet
Looks like Master EX Red if you ask me
outer eagle
true
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People play that game?
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Fair
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And why do you think so
wild imp
the inane cycle i have in my mind
every odd gen you get an expanded version
rather than a remake
pseudo goblet
People play that game?
You activated my trap card
wild imp
ie b2w2 ultra SM and whatever we getting now
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We got fire red leaf green
Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire
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It was gen 3 remake
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WHY TF DOES MY KEYBOARD THINK REMAKE SHOULD BE AUTOCORRECTED TO FEMALE
pseudo goblet
Quick question, is Pokemon Dream Radar worth getting?
Shopping before eshop closes
outer eagle
hopefully they just combine BW2 events into BW's postgame tbh
if anything
oh and give us the Original Dragon for god's sake
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4 Gen 5 remakes
wild imp
they defo will
chandelure shadow tag
but fr this time
gotta get my man banned to AG
outer eagle
its support movepool in Doubles isn't too bad either: Will-o-wisp, Trick Room, Taunt, Heat Wave
pseudo goblet
outer eagle
not sure if Ally Switch is that prominent in Doubles
pseudo goblet
https://twitter.com/tweetfrmpkmn/status/1639916666900594688?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcE...
Me: Son, sit down, grab a popcorn, while I go tell your teacher you need a year worth of days off
wild imp
its uh
used i think
i still cant get over how valiant is f tier in doubles
man is the GOAT
whenever i do draft
hes one of the first 3 taken
wild imp
what about iron mugulis
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hey at least Juggulus won something in Doubles
It did?
What does jugulus even do that tusk already doesn't
Oh wait jugulus is the hydreigon
wild imp
treads being mid in all formats is funny
outer eagle
Sandy Shocks being unviable in all formats is funnier
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Shocks has a regionals top 4
wild imp
nah shocks is the goat
wild imp
idk why yould ever use treads over tusk
bleak pine
Does Iron Treads learn Steel Roller?
Could be something to consider if so, given it’s ability Quark Drive
(Little unsure if the stat bonus it gets goes away or not if Electric Terrain is dispelled)
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cuz i think Iron Treads also has a regional top
I checked all 9 official series B events so far and Iron Thorns, Iron Valiant, Iron Treads and Slither Wing have 0 tops
Best thing Treads has done is like get top 24 ig
In a event with top 8
pseudo goblet
Y’all ready say goodbye to eshop?
outer eagle
Goth soloing Trick Room and Spore was pog
outer eagle
my first reaction upon seeing an ocean with Kyogre and Gorebyss in the vicinity is probably not jumping in
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So @outer eagle I counted the number of tops for each paradox mons(only top 8) for all events of series 9
Flutter Mane = 36
Great Tusk = 29
Iron Hands = 22
Roaring Moon = 17
Brute Bonnet = 8
Iron Jugulis = 5
Sandy Shocks = 4
Scream Tail = 3
Iron Moth = 2
Slither Wing = 0
Iron Thorns = 0
Iron Valiant = 0
Iron Treads = 0
Average Paradox mons per team: 2.28```Shocks playable confirmed
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It was for the memes so it was worth it
outer eagle
Iron Bundle was higher than i thought
cuz in terms of winning teams
Iron Hands was higher iirc
random stream
Valiant is insane in singles but probs not in doubles
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In terms of winning team
Hands = 4
Mane = 6
Bundle = 4
Tusk = 4
random stream
Treads is the definition of mid
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What about slither wing and thorns
outer eagle
This stream has been on break for the last half an hour
Does it take that long to determine t8
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Were they not on hydro pump or something
outer eagle
Probably Specs locked ig
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It was booster energy
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Ah yes definitely would kill a assault vested kingambit
outer eagle
Tbf, it was pretty stressful so could just be a legit case of he forgor
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Probably
They were on encore so probably not on hydro pump tbh
Unless they weren't on icy wind
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Yeah
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It would've been hilarious
Also they knew freeze dry doesn't kill btw
That's why they never targeted gambit
outer eagle
Trueee
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Else they woulda gotten somewhat greedy and attacked gambit over amoongus and taken the chance of it thawing
outer eagle
Frozen Amogus is a phrase i didn’t need to know
outer eagle
Oh lawd 5/6 mons mirror
golden lance
didn't SwSh have like some bans
It was less individual bans and more so entire groups
Like "you cannot use box legends this season"
bleak pine
Ayy nice stuff Yoz
outer eagle
Amogus literally laughs in the face of Garganacl
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This game also showed the biggest problem of garganacl
It just doesn't threaten anything
So you can just morb its partner Mon
outer eagle
Yeah between Amogus constantly healing off Salt Cure’s passive damage and Garg not doing anything else, every turn felt like a 1v2
outer eagle
Except Amogus is high quality support so even when it doesn’t deal damage it can still do something else like redirection and Spore
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Amogus has been VGC staple since release
outer eagle
Garg just clicks Salt and prayge
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Also like spore is a lot more threatening than salt cure
bleak pine
Really when you think about it, Spore has no reason to exist
Sleep Powder was already a thing, so I'm a little unsure why this move needed to step it up, especially since, to my knowledge everything that does learn Spore seems to also know Sleep Powder
...Lemme double check that right quick
...Ok, I am apparently wrong (Shocker, I know!), evidently Sleep Powder is something different altogether
Apparently the whole "Spore" thing refers to mushroom spores, whereas Sleep Powder is likely dust that Grass and/or bug-types produces that induce drowsiness.
sand forge
I mean that is basically the same thing
Spore is just 100% accurate, no?
And was a signature move
bleak pine
Yeah, Spore just so happens to be something things related to mushrooms can use, whereas Sleep Powder is like... I don't know, just sedative powders given off by bugs or some plants
Just, Spore could just not be a thing, and instead Sleep Powder would just the the sleep-inducing move, due to Spore just being "Sleep Powder but mushroom-themed" or something
...I might be pharsing this incorrectly, so I am sorry if so, but that's just what I feel.
warm sky
I feel people who don't play competitive shouldn't give opinions on game balance
bleak pine
Nah, it's not game balance. Just, more that both are powder-like moves, spreading stuff to induce sleep
I got no problem with them otherwise. It's just odd is all.
Then again, back then was a weird time when some moves were just there cause. Porygon had Conversion, Beedrill had Twinneedle, and Paras had Spore
warm sky
Yeah And water gun and hydro pump are flavorwise the same but stronger
bleak pine
Oh right, yeah there was so few variation in some moves too
...Wait, that wasn't what the point was, sorry. Yeah, strength is one way to look at it.
So really, it's just "Spore could just not exist since Sleep Powder could just have been flavored to just be spores as well as dust, powder or whatever else causes sleep", is I guess what I'm getting at.
spice rivet
Said screw and bought Pokemon Yellow too
Good bye 3DS eshop. You were good son, real good
spice rivet
Yes Bank is/should be free to all who have it
For better or worse, cant imagine them keeping that up forever either. Already did my first huge migration, but def need another solid day to do more
Also the 8F Shiny Mew
placid junco
It’ll be up as long as 3ds online services exist I imagine
bleak pine
Righto
pseudo goblet
Love how difficult Larry(mostly staraptor) is, continuing the trend of normal types ain’t pushovers
pseudo goblet
atomic heart
normal cave
It's a bop
normal cave
Tatsugiri my beloved
snow oasis
poison heal mons that tera into poison type should heal every turn without needing to be poisoned. also they should be healed by black sludge even without being poison types. i will not take constructive criticism as i am always right
golden lance
Photosynthesis should also trigger on rain if the user is walking wake
crimson moat
poison heal mons that tera into poison type should heal every turn without needi...
Counterpoint: this also applies to Gliscor regardless of being a poison type or not
Gliscor also has a unique name for the ability which is called Gliscor Heal, which is just what you said but if anything is or becomes Gliscor
If Gliscor Heal is skill swapped to another Pokémon, it does nothing
Except when it is swapped to Lando-T, who heals for half what Gliscor would normally get
crimson moat
Photosynthesis should also trigger on rain if the user is walking wake
Photosynthesis should nullify and trigger against Flash.
And given how it works, Solarbeam too
fading stratus
Fuck it
Make Protosynthesis trigger on misty terrain too
normal cave
Mist blocks sunlight
normal cave
And they live in dark forests and steal children
Or eat your toenails or something
Idk what that has to do with sunlight
fading stratus
Old = Past
normal cave
Ok but rain is old too
fading stratus
Protosynthesis should trigger on every weather
normal cave
Protosynthesis on every weather, quark drive on every terrain
Psychic terrain iron bundle
normal cave
Lele bundle so they can't use priority to answer you
normal cave
Psychic terrain iron valiant
normal cave
I was going to ask if it gets expanding force, bonly armarouge gets expanding force in gen 9
normal cave
What's it used as
Revenge killer?
Calm mind sweeper, scarfed revenge killer, even seen it as a mixed attacker.
fading stratus
Valiant isn't great in doubles anyway so force doesn't matter
normal cave
Yeah
fading stratus
Are slither wing or Thorns doing anything in singles or both doo doo
Slither wing in theory could be decent ig
First impression hits like a truck
normal cave
Slither wing is a uu menace
Thorns is a dragon dance sweeper, but you have better options
fading stratus
Ah
obsidian juniper
kind vortex
i feel like grovyle would be more into tax evasion than doing taxes
latent sleet
so thats why he looks like yoshi
mighty storm
bleak pine
@normal cave
HEY
This is a thing for the next raid event
Enjoy
https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/1640135045804376067?cxt=HHwWhoC2zcyI98ItAAAA
pseudo goblet
Tera bug samurott Megahorn
bleak pine
Bug-Type Samurott sounds pretty difficult to go up against here
harsh path
bleak pine
Assuming it's also got an ice-type move, there's genuinely not a whole lot of choices you can make here that would forward a good game plan.
pseudo goblet
Shit I still need to rematch the gym leaders 😅
young river
I gotta do the final tournament, whited out twice
then again im doing it with Paradox Pokemon instead of my main team
sand forge
Steel Beam is such a good name for a move, it's sad that it's A. Special and B. beam of steely resolve in Japanese
normal cave
pseudo goblet
regal garnet
Twitter
warm sky
Oh good lmao
sand forge
https://twitter.com/artsyboi_sketch/status/1640090117623693314?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLG...
Very creative
Steel Beam should be the signature move of Gurrdurr
And he should whack them with a steel beam
pseudo goblet
https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1640613489172529152
Thank god 😵💫
warm sky
Steel Beam should be the signature move of Gurrdurr
Wouldn't that just... Miss the pun
pseudo goblet
Does the prevo learn branch poke? or does the wooden plank look more Wood Hammer
warm sky
vocal torrent
random stream
Real
pseudo goblet
Guessing it’s there just for safe keeping, the real game is in other cabinet
placid junco
https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1640508916055392256?t=d1O-ilRs4KUccXsJw1M...
Yeah idk why literally anybody expected this to be more than a temporary issue
Centro just be fear mongering for clicks
normal cave
Holy SHIT that's a good design
wow
Looks psychic/electric because of the plug and the eye/psychic energy symbol for a head
Or electric/ghost
sand forge
Wouldn't that just... Miss the pun
Wdym
warm sky
It's a beam attack that is a steel type
If it was just a literal steel beam it'd be kinda lazy of a name
fading stratus
Stainless Steel Beam
fading stratus
https://twitter.com/june_buns/status/1640426602441080832?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWL...
Tell me it'd be steel fairy
fading stratus
You know what's a creative name?
Double Slap
It's not lazy because it doesn't hit exactly 2 times
pseudo goblet
Rest
fading stratus
Rest should've been named Sleep
outer eagle
Snore
fading stratus
Or Powernap
sand forge
It's a beam attack that is a steel type
If it was just a literal steel beam it...
But the pun only exists in English
Steel Beam still works as a pun if it's a physical move
Because it subverts that it isn't a beam attack
But an actual girder
warm sky
I suppose we just disagree
But fair enough
sand forge
Beam of Steely Resolve is hot garbage
sand forge
when Hyper Beam is a thing
That's gen 1 & also iconic
The lazier name is ice beam
The ice type beam attack
Especially since Aurora Beam exists
Which is a far cooler name
pseudo goblet
Bubble
outer eagle
Fly
pseudo goblet
Bubble beam
sand forge
Signal Beam I don't see the bug theming, but it's a good name
pseudo goblet
How did we went from those to this lol
sand forge
Are Flash Cannon/Fleur Cannon counted as beams
Dragon Pulse not a beam, but fires a beam
What even is a dragon Pulse
fading stratus
What even is a dragon Pulse
Dragon coughing
sand forge
Yeah but what is a pulse move
pseudo goblet
Water pulse and Dark pulse
sand forge
Which manifests animations-wise as a beam
Water Pulse makes sense
Dark Pulse I can at least visualise
fading stratus
Dark pulse and water pulse both are waves
sand forge
But what the hell is a dragon pulse
fading stratus
Dragon pulse for some reason is uhh cannon
void herald
But what the hell is a dragon pulse
it's a pulse of dragon breath i guess
normal cave
What even is a dragon Pulse
Breath
fading stratus
If aura sphere is a pulse then dragon breath is definitely a pulse
pseudo goblet
Tbf, the Japanese name ‘Ryu no hado’ if I’m right is like ‘Dragon’s aura’, since Aura sphere is ‘Hado dan’
sand forge
Terrain Pulse I assume is just channeling energy through the ground
pseudo goblet
Tbf, the Japanese name ‘Ryu no hado’ if I’m right is like ‘Dragon’s aura’, sinc...
Which explains why Aura Sphere gets boost from Mega Launcher too
sand forge
Which I can at least visualise in my head
pseudo goblet
Fair actually, since no Mega Blastoise right now
normal cave
Idts
normal cave
Beams
fading stratus
It makes water spheres and shoots em
pseudo goblet
https://tenor.com/view/primal-kyogre-origin-pulse-gif-25082829
^
sand forge
I know what it's animated as
fading stratus
Game animation is same
sand forge
But I say to you "describe origin pulse" without you having seen the animation before
What the hell do you visualise
normal cave
Blue rings of light that explode into water
pseudo goblet
The first living-being birth
fading stratus
No idea who that is
pseudo goblet
Me thinking Chowder
sand forge
It's a pretty niche reference I'll admit
But my initial thought would be a pulse of like.. biogenesis
But I don't think that's in Kyogres feats
Seeding life
normal cave
Primordial soup pulse
normal cave
Seeding life
Nothing alludes to this being the case
It made the oceans, not life in them
pseudo goblet
Life came first from sea
normal cave
Life came from the sea, but the sea existed... I think billions of years lifeless
fading stratus
I have rejected the game canon and have substituted my own
Is your canon the ultimate weapon was never blasted or it was blasted
sand forge
Dunno
pseudo goblet
Life came from the sea, but the sea existed... I think billions of years lifeles...
Life invaded earth from space
sand forge
My canon is mainly about Kyogre
sand forge
Life came from the sea, but the sea existed... I think billions of years lifeles...
How did Kyogre origin pulse the sea into existence
Checkmate atheists
normal cave
pseudo goblet
You see, there was a female kyogre and they-
fading stratus
Groudon > Kyogre tho
pseudo goblet
Groudon fan here
pseudo goblet
Please
sand forge
I think Mega Rayq is my favourite design out of the 3
fading stratus
Mine is primal Groudon
pseudo goblet
Well, guess I should be happy there’s another Team Sky member here
pseudo goblet
Mine is primal Groudon
Mine too
sand forge
I'm not too huge on the primal forms
Since they just seem to be the same form but glowing & bigger
normal cave
By the way, speaking of life genesis and legendaries
If arceus is confirmed to lay eggs
Why is it commonly portrayed as male
sand forge
It's a seahorse
pseudo goblet
non-binary birth
outer eagle
and for all we know he could have literally snapped an egg into existence
pseudo goblet
Snap an egg
fading stratus
It's called Big Hatching
normal cave
It's a seahorse
Makes sense.
sand forge
How does Arceus snap its fingers if it only has hooves
pseudo goblet
Thousand hands
sand forge
Arceus can search a Ritual Monster?
crimson moat
If ritual monsters were in pokemon, Arceus VStar could search them
sand forge
Calyrex or Kyurem
pseudo goblet
I can’t believe y’all forgot slowbro and Slowking
normal cave
Or necrozma
fading stratus
I want to summon the Magikarp Arceus Fusion
This
pseudo goblet
I saw this earlier today too!
fading stratus
normal cave
Infinite fusion is good shit
pseudo goblet
fading stratus
Yeah
normal cave
Makes me wonder why they allow you to fuse necrozma with nebby