Interesting how they seem to be electric or steel-types, but only a few really are.
#Pokemon
bleak pine
warm sky
Now I want a drawing of valiant vs mega gallade or voir based on the sonic OVA
snow oasis
warm sky
What's so funny about sussus amogus?
hexed valley
@snow oasis are you persiangriffin? i just realized you were the guy who responded to me on /r/stunfisk LMAO
sand forge
doxxed
snow oasis
<@168417951454724096> are you persiangriffin? i just realized you were the guy w...
wait are you postsonlyjiyoung
hexed valley
yeah lol
snow oasis
LMAO
hexed valley
snow oasis
congratulations on being one of the few good opinion havers on r/yugioh
I hardly even go there anymore, much less talk
bleak pine
Dammit, Griffin.
kind vortex
and bad ones
as far as i've seen you have more good opinions than bad ones, so
jagged linden
I hardly even go there anymore, much less talk
same
even r/yugioh101 is kinda iffy sometimes
kind vortex
even r/yugioh101 is kinda iffy sometimes
101's looked the same as it always has and has a solid core of people who answer things there; use the report button if you notice anything off
main sub is more of a mixed bag tho; i'd like people to use the megathread more for help things, since that's one of the main reasons it exists, it's just a matter of getting people to use it
regardless, you couldn't use either of them right now if you wanted to, since reddit's been down for the last 3 or so hours
anyway, to get back on topic, does anyone remember when the decidueye raid starts?
warm sky
normal cave
Maushold needing wide lens also means it can get bonked by anything that outspeeds it without fearing sash
Or, you know, ghost types
warm sky
Okay true but also
252 Atk Technician Tera Normal Maushold Population Bomb (10 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Quilava: 320-380 (100 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
sand forge
Maushold is just an idiotic design
sand forge
what's the relevance
sand forge
I mean in terms of gameplay balance
normal cave
Maushold is very easy to counter
But it does stupid shit
Well, one very stupid thing
warm sky
I mean in terms of gameplay balance
Oh thought you meant physical design, mb dek
normal cave
I dislike its looks because of its mouth
normal cave
If it constantly kept its mouth shut it would be fine
normal cave
not in randbats
sand forge
Better Dragon Dance + Bite for Ghosts
normal cave
I don't ever have issues with it since wezl outspeeds and ohkos it, and I now run dragapult
Yeah but it's BITE
I guess technitian
sand forge
Bite does more damage than Crunch with Technician
normal cave
+1 252 Atk Technician Maushold Bite vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 260-306 (82 - 96.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Maushold: 334-394 (115.5 - 136.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
So long as you don't switch into a +1 maushold using bite you gucci
sand forge
I'm talking about randbats exclusively
Where my only counter will be a ghost
and they will 100% get a free setup turn
sand forge
it should honestly be banned from randbats
normal cave
You always have someone roll a scarf houndstone or a shell smash cloyster or whatever
sand forge
it's broken
sand forge
You can at least counter scarf Houndstone by protecting a normal
Maushold essentially requires them to switch into a Pokemon with thunder wave, or misplay
bleak pine
Maushold is dumb and I'm all for that
spice rivet
I just love hate in VGC the Beat up Maushold/ Annhilape leads
Very little counter play especially since Ape has Defiant
bleak pine
An adorable mice family, and Akuma
The team nobody believed in.
spice rivet
P much my worst mu. The only other thing I can think of that compares is hardcore TR leads but Ive learnt that Snarl AV Arcanine can just sit on them, and if you just refuse to ko their pokemon they cant do enough damage with Screens up
bleak pine
Haven't tried looking into Trick Room. Though I'd imagine mons like Hatterene and Greedent are still pretty great there.
clever saddle
has someone cracked the code yet for sandwiches in sv? like figuring out how to get encounter & exp power normal on a singular sandwich?
golden lance
Yes
clever saddle
where can i see?
spice rivet
Rock and Ground being 2 different kinds of pork feels very appropriate
bleak pine
I gotta figure out the level 3 power with Tofu that would cause a whole bunch of Chansey to show up
clever saddle
i'm trying to get encounter & exp on the same sandwich
bleak pine
Also, I think the condiment you throw on doesn't matter?
spice rivet
Also the 3 peppers are assigned to the 3 major statuses
bleak pine
Like, you can do salt, mustard and whatnot and it doesn't change up anything?
spice rivet
Burn/Para/Poison
bleak pine
Yeaaaa
spice rivet
Im not sure if that matters, just set some hard saves so you dont accidentally burn ingredients
spice rivet
Also just had an amazing game of VGC. Made a guy rage quit lmao
normal cave
poison
Green pepper
Of course
bleak pine
Ippon!
golden lance
Why don't we have multiple save files yet?
bleak pine
Well, the real answer I think, is cheat prevention
spice rivet
Money
bleak pine
Also that
golden lance
Well, the *real* answer I think, is cheat prevention
How so?
bleak pine
Games have always been notorious about disallowing you to have a way to have multiple files
spice rivet
So you cant farm a morbillion legendaries unless you go through the game each time
bleak pine
It's also why cloud save isn't allowed for the games
You can however make a different switch account and use that if you want to play another file
...Just keep in mind, you likely aren't gonna have Switch Online for that.
spice rivet
So you cant just make a hard save right before catching all legendaries, then farm them and trade em off/Home them
golden lance
So you cant farm a morbillion legendaries unless you go through the game each ti...
Does that actually matter tho?
normal cave
You can do that anyways, it just takes days instead of minutes.
spice rivet
Also Pokemon would have the same ID number and Trainer ID which can lead to them getting flagged as clones
normal cave
golden lance
Like, what is stopping me from going to the gts and get a morbillion legendaries that way?
bleak pine
You will sit there and mull over how someone could waltz into the GTS and demand a level 9 or under Palkia
normal cave
I think it's a combination of money, tradition, and laziness
bleak pine
Yep. Hard to tell which is greater of motivations
normal cave
Probably tradition and money being the top ones
spice rivet
Only reason Red and Green didnt have it was because they ran out of space and wanted you to give all mons nicknames
normal cave
Yeah, and it became a tradition
Not sure money is too big a reason since you can just replay the game
golden lance
Using tradition as an excuse to not include mechanics that are positive to the entire playerbase is stupid
normal cave
Laziness plays a role if they reuse code (which they do, but idk how much was reused from rgby)
spice rivet
Ya its super dumb
But also even like Pokemon Coli/XD wouldnt let you copy the save data
golden lance
Also like, gamefreak has been axing tradition when it suits them all the time
normal cave
Didn't they already normalize it
golden lance
Oops! You didn't reroll a legendary for 0 speed ivs, better restart your whole save file!
spice rivet
Only thing thats a pain is Vitamins (which arent needed always) and Ability Patches
IVs need to go
I was so happy they werent in PLA
normal cave
Yeah 0 ivs on atk and speed is an issue
spice rivet
Watch them add an NPC that does that in the DLC
normal cave
Trying to get that perfect 4 iv hatterene
golden lance
Didn't they already normalize it
A player used a shiny incineroar in a premier ball during a vgc tournament once
spice rivet
golden lance
People were MALDING
normal cave
Why make it shiny tho
golden lance
Aesthetic
normal cave
Why the premier ball
spice rivet
Points in the vague direction of Verlis
golden lance
Aesthetic
spice rivet
People will always get mad
golden lance
It grants 0 advantage other than look pretty
Aside from the "people that gen mons have more time to practice" bs
normal cave
I get it, but you can't actually get an incineroar in a premier ball, right?
golden lance
What?
normal cave
Everyone pees in the pool, but you don't have to stand where everyone can see you and do it so obviously
spice rivet
SV were the first time you could get Greninja and Cinderace line in non Pokeballs. And soon to be the Rowlet line (Outside of Hisui balls)
normal cave
Everyone gens, but you could at least PRETEND to hide it
spice rivet
I mainly gen for events I missed
golden lance
Everyone gens, but you could at least PRETEND to hide it
It doesnt matter anyway, so like
Who cares
spice rivet
And I just use one of those discord chat bots
golden lance
It's only a cosmetic
normal cave
No, it does not
You're right
It's just a difference between plausably not genned and deffinently genned
No advantage or effect on the game
normal cave
If the rules state that genning is illegal, then yeah, that is a reason to ban them
It's a silly reason, since the game was not impacted
But at the same time, it is breaking the rules in a very obvious way
kind vortex
bans/suspensions/whatever the equivalent in pokemon is should be left up to the staff their policy documents entrust to make those decisions
putting that in the hands of random players is never a good idea
golden lance
Softboiled's pp reduction didn't help either
vocal torrent
No matter what, the way I see it is like big company hiring oil snake salesman expert
pseudo goblet
maiden flax
sand forge
Does it look less awkward in context
pseudo goblet
Still waiting on Umbreon and Lapras to make their entrance
Drawn by the same artist https://twitter.com/mako_makotoo/status/1622565895725015040?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
pseudo goblet
@normal cave which one is one of you traveled to Hisui lol
https://twitter.com/mako_makotoo/status/1619202845563310081?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
https://twitter.com/mako_makotoo/status/1619202950391562240?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
normal cave
WEZLS
Hisui having 2 wezl starters would make picking a starter so hard
Typh would mean I can use floatzel without worrying about double water tho
Also works nicely with sneasler, fighting/ghost coverage
pseudo goblet
bleak pine
want
pseudo goblet
bleak pine
WANT
warm sky
Lmao tru
pseudo goblet
~~If you stand it up, it becomes Pawmot~~
The arms are movable apparently
pseudo goblet
random stream
pseudo goblet
mighty storm
Drawn by the same artist https://twitter.com/mako_makotoo/status/162256589572501...
SHEP
snow oasis
@random stream I’m halfway to fallarbor town now and still haven’t lost a mon
I’ve never been deathless this late into a locke
current team is Marshtomp-Gyarados-Swellow-Electrike-Mightyena-Loudred
sand forge
current team is Marshtomp-Gyarados-Swellow-Electrike-Mightyena-Loudred
swellow these nuts
snow oasis
loudred balls
random stream
Das good
mighty storm
Fun shiny hunting fact: You could shiny hunt in Pokemon Battle Revolution
but not for pokemon
you could only shiny hunt COSTUMES
bleak pine
Yeah
It was incredibly stupid, but nobody really minded since it was just absurdly dumb to try and torture yourself just to get them
pseudo goblet
Took me a while, but I get why people like Larry, for me I liked how he’s so relatable and genuinely would like to be friend with him
maiden flax
cunning osprey
why does Calyrex get the shaft
placid junco
Because he’s lame
cunning osprey
like its weird that both the game canon anime Twilight Wings and the Ash continuity Pokemon Journeys feature the crown tundra and the latter has the new Regis
but neither showcase Calyrex
I am not sure how far the manga is in
maiden flax
I am not sure how far the manga is in
So far translated only up till the start of both dlcs
(Fan translated i mean)
tacit sphinx
So what’s the worst Paradox mon
tacit sphinx
Why Shocks
crimson moat
statistically I'd guess Iron Thorns
Visually it is absolutely Sandy Shocks
normal cave
Ugly, poor execution of design idea, makes no sense
crimson moat
poor execution of design idea
this especially
being covered with magnetite is cool, but the goofy ass magnet legs and tail look awful
tacit sphinx
crimson moat
That's why I called out each individually
tacit sphinx
I like Sandy Shocks’ eyeliner ngl
crimson moat
If you got rid of the legs and tail and just gave each magnemite body a slightly different design, it would look much better
heck for that reason it would have looked better as a paradox of Magnemite than Magneton
normal cave
worst competitively or design-wise?
Sandy shocks not bad in comp
lucid moth
yeah hence why i was asking
in terms of design u go nowhere
since every pokemon is someones favorite
but competitively u can judge
normal cave
That's a fair point
But even if it is someone's favorite, you will still have pokemon which are more commonly liked
lucid moth
from a comp stand point in singles, none of the paradox mons fall below uu
if we had to pick on
one
id say brute bonnet
maybe iron leaves drops below uu at some point?
idt so though
its actually pretty nuts
but it really wants tapu koko to come
unfort tho it is heavily outclassed by valiant in the niche it wants
u can make an argument for iron thorns being pretty mediocre
but it can only be so bad
it has good stab moves
rocks, spikes
and a switch move in stab volt charge
*switch
volt switch
yea my vote is brute bonnet for worst competitively
its not the worst pokemon but its the worst paradox
random kind of coverage
grass dark is underwhelming
it doesnt bring a ton that other paradox dont bring as well but better
iron hands for example
is doing the same slow tanky but insanely powerful physical attacker niche
no stab sucker punch but it doesnt get swords dance to hit absurd levels of damage
lucid moth
bonnet has spore but no real booster to go with it
which is a big shame
and no trailblaze isnt a real boosting move since its not boosting bonnet's speed fast enough to roll with its terrible base speed
lucid moth
no
sand forge
Because gamefreak really like Dark/Ghost/Fighting as their starter secondary typings
lucid moth
its more unique
tacit sphinx
But doesn’t it boost speed
lucid moth
protosynthesis boosts your highest stat by 1.3
unless its speed
then it boosts it by 1.5
tacit sphinx
Oh so it’s like Beast Boost
lucid moth
yes
tacit sphinx
Okay I misunderstood
lucid moth
quark drive is the same but in electric terrain
sand forge
Hisui and Paldea both had Ghost/Dark/Fighting
lucid moth
bonnet unfort cant build to make it so that speed is the highest
base speed of 55
it can never eclipse base 127 atk
or 99/99 defenses
sand forge
Give me a Wonder Room setter
lucid moth
iron hands has that issue too but
sand forge
Via ability
tacit sphinx
To be honest Paradox mons just confuse me an awful lot
tacit sphinx
Like I don’t get the concept
lucid moth
but it can volt switch or play rough
and elemental punches
eq too?
cc
it actually has moves
sand forge
No, the concept is weak until explained further
lucid moth
concept is pretty weak yes
im still in the camp that they are all just fictional
imaginations of what they would be like
tacit sphinx
I have also
not actually beaten SV
sand forge
Could've been strong, but just kinda tripped over itself spectacularly
sand forge
sand forge
But how are the future ones descendants
They're not
tacit sphinx
They’re robots
sand forge
And the past ones aren't ancestors
sand forge
The only one that I think is directly descended from its base form is Jugulis
Because Hydreigon fucked a robot
And Jugulis is the child
tacit sphinx
Great Tusk, Scream Tail, I get it
lucid moth
they are robotic forms of existing mons
sand forge
Iron x is very lazy
tacit sphinx
The idea is that people just described what they saw
lucid moth
bonnet too
tacit sphinx
But like
lucid moth
roaring moon also makes sense
tacit sphinx
Why didn’t they say “wow what a weird Jigglypuff”
lucid moth
the wings make a moon shape like mega mence
scream tail can probably be attributed to the fact that jigglypuff is known for singing and it has a hair tail now?
sand forge
Aren't the names from the book
tacit sphinx
Yeah but this is the Pokemon universe
You’re telling me they didn’t call it like
Migglyfluff
lucid moth
same with sandy shocks
sand forge
Who knows if the guy that wrote the book was even aware of Jigglypuff
tacit sphinx
Isn’t the book only 100 years old
lucid moth
it can definitely be the case that they used to call pokemon different things in different regions
sand forge
Is Jigglypuff extant in Paldea
tacit sphinx
Yes
tacit sphinx
Pretty sure it’s before the first town
sand forge
Jigglypuff is an invasive species
tacit sphinx
But you get my point right
sand forge
Also they save the shit Migglytuff naming convention for the "Convergent Evolution" Pokémon that aren't really convergent evolution
sand forge
Wiglett, or SeaDiglett in the original Japanese
sand forge
I remember people used to think the Donphan paradoxes were going to be called Koraidonphan and Miraidonphan
warm sky
same with sandy shocks
I mean according to the book Sandy Shocks isn't even a different species
sand forge
old
warm sky
Yeah
warm sky
I mean humans also start to droop as they age
sand forge
yes, and reminders of mortality are what make Pokemon fun
That your loyal companions will age & die
as will you
well, except Magneton
he lives forever
tacit sphinx
Memento Mori but it just drops your stats
sand forge
Slaking-Mortuus's ability Ennui, is a Truant clone but instead he just gets sad and hopeless
sand forge
All Pokemon tend towards Yamask
warm sky
Although, does curing Banette count as killing it? Because according to gen 7 lore, if you show enough love to a Banette it might revert back to being a doll
normal cave
sand forge
Banette-Mortuus's evolution just Banette doll
Fairy/Normal
Level up with high friendship
And then we'll add in something that doesn't fit the land of the dead like...
Another lucha libre
tacit sphinx
Although, does curing Banette count as killing it? Because according to gen 7 lo...
when you max out banette’s friendship it instantly vanishes
warm sky
Max friendship/affection should do that, but I guess getting rid of hatred is harder than just being besties
jagged linden
To be honest Paradox mons just confuse me an awful lot
eh, once you beat the final stretch of the game it makes sense
lot of people are coping on the theory that ||the time machine isn't actually a time machine but a machine that makes dreams real|| but I doubt it
I like the idea from a gameplay perspective too
take mons, mix their design up to fit either a futuristic or prehistoric window of time, then give it a 2 word name
lucid moth
i just mentioned this theory i think
i didnt know the exact reasoning behind it
ok 2 word names tho
go pretty hard
feels just a bit like a scientific name
write them in latin
ferrum jugulis
jagged linden
the main reason I don't like that theory is it kinda diminishes the impact of the endgame(since "someone's imagination come to life" doesn't slap as hard as "the literal ancestors of modern pokemon" imo) , and how did the scarlet/violet books come about then
lucid moth
what were they going for with jugulis
jagged linden
Idr if its ever said outright but the books Arven has are heavily implied to be extremely old, tearing at the pages and with hand drawn photos
warm sky
Most of them aren't even mentioned to be ancesors tho tbf
jagged linden
most of the paradox mons are designed in a very wide window
lucid moth
billions of years old would discredit a ton of the fossil pokemon
jagged linden
nothing's saying they had to coexist in a specific time
lucid moth
while true it makes the timeline very weird
jagged linden
just that they did at one point or another
sand forge
I don't think you're grasping how far back a billion years is
lucid moth
also ferrum manus is gonna be my nickname for all iron hands i run tbh
jagged linden
ferrum jugulis
I have some german name paradox mons from a friend and gotta say
"Eisenhands" is way better than "Iron Hands" lol
sand forge
200 million years ago Mammals didn't exist
lucid moth
well it is pokemon world we dont know exact timeline for everything
or how it was all shaped
fot all we know, arceus only created the world a couple million years ago
lucid moth
good point of reference then
obsidian juniper
I have some german name paradox mons from a friend and gotta say
"Eisenhands" i...
Shouldnt it be just "eisenhand:? Cause the word "hands" doesnt exist in german
jagged linden
its been a hot second since I booted the game up to check 
I just double checked Bulbapedia to be semi-sure
jagged linden
sand forge
So Shellder is a very old species
lucid moth
we know some species can be very very old yea
lucid moth
why does it evolve from remoraid
lucid moth
what prompts a fish to become a cephalopod
also that evolution gotta be hella weird
going from a vertebrate into an invertebrate
sand forge
The Paradoxes should've had more fanservice in them tbh
Give us Gorochu as past Paradox Raichu
or beta Garchomp
or non-ghost Dragapult
lucid moth
i like the idea that megas are a return to a primal state and its why roaring moon resembles mega mence
sand forge
Mhm
sand forge
I assume so
Though Beta Garchomp would also be Dragon/Water
so perhaps not
I guess you could make it Water/Something else
lucid moth
water/ground
pseudo goblet
sacred hatch
hello
if there are any pokemon rom fans i need you
which one is Pokemon Insurgence?
is it one of the edgy/dark ones?
pseudo goblet
It’s not the Marnie I wanted but I guess this is fine actually
103 pity point left
Kinda hard to get that many before April 9th not gonna lie
golden lance
is it one of the edgy/dark ones?
Yes
tacit sphinx
I wish Arctovish were better
placid junco
Arctozolt is my favorite
pseudo goblet
Wait y’all saying there’s more than one fossil in Galar then just Dracovish
tacit sphinx
I’m watching a video on FSG about the Paradox mons and the guest says “what’s good about them is that like even though they only have 570 BST it’s really well-specialised”
what the fuck do you mean “only 570 BST”
placid junco
Only 570 BST for Ubers/OU
tacit sphinx
Okay but 570 in OU seems still like
fucking crazy to me
Like idk
Maybe I’m just used to my dumb old games for babies
Back in my day the literal best thing in any tier only had 540
maiden flax
The worst paradox competitively is by far iron thorns btw
golden lance
Back in my day the literal best thing in any tier only had 540
I mean, he didnt have sand stream yet but ttar was 600
pseudo goblet
So which side of paradox dominates more, past or future
golden lance
So did raikou and zapdos
golden lance
So which side of paradox dominates more, past or future
Past
pseudo goblet
maiden flax
So which side of paradox dominates more, past or future
In competitive?
Past
Not only due to sun but great tusk is the most used pokemon in both singles and doubles currently
pseudo goblet
Double let’s fucking go, Great tusk 
maiden flax
Tapu koko will likely make iron leaves more viable
Sinve leaves is actually pretty good in electric terrain
tacit sphinx
The worst paradox competitively is by far iron thorns btw
What does it do
maiden flax
Its just a pretty good cleaner/sweeper
Like the current electric terrain team has both valiant and leaves in electric terrain and punches stuff really hard
random stream
The worst paradox competitively is by far iron thorns btw
jugulis is a bit worse no?
random stream
So which side of paradox dominates more, past or future
Past for sure
only big future super threat in singles outside of banned iron bundle rn is iron valiant
walking wake might get banned
pseudo goblet
I still don’t understand why Malaysian people here prefers future paradox… assuming by how many Violet was sold here
random stream
What does it do
dragon dance loaded dice tera bug pin missile
tacit sphinx
dragon dance loaded dice tera bug pin missile
P i n M i s s i l e ?
placid junco
Loaded dice guarantees 4-5 hits
tacit sphinx
Is this Gen 1 Jolteon
golden lance
Yes
maiden flax
jugulis is a bit worse no?
No iron thorns is way worse
Ive tried all the paradoxes thorns is just baddddd
golden lance
He's even elec type
tacit sphinx
Rock/Electric sounds like good STAB though
placid junco
Rock blast for loaded dice
tacit sphinx
Like Alolan Golem couldn’t really use it well
Yo can I just make a quick observation by the way
maiden flax
What does it do
Oh wait you meant thorns
Yeah what renren said
tacit sphinx
We are currently up to three Pokemon that use iron filings as hair
placid junco
Sandy Shocks is hilarious
maiden flax
Getting bonet or jugulis to 1800 in ou isnt too hard a feat
With proper team building and good play you can do it
Iron thorns was just an absolute pain to try in ou
placid junco
Oh yeah brute bonnet is hilarious because GF decided to just
Turn one of the most famous defensive Pokémon ever into a sweeper
tacit sphinx
Oh yeah brute bonnet is hilarious because GF decided to just
Turn one of the mos...
I mean they turned Delibird into a sweeper
maiden flax
Wall breaker brute bonnet with sucker punch is a fun build
tacit sphinx
Lowkey, this gen is probably the best Gen 2 mons have ever gotten
placid junco
9 was a good Gen for dark types
tacit sphinx
- several new GSC evolutions
- a lot of brand new mons based on Gen 2 mons
- a legendary based on a Gen 2 legendary
maiden flax
Iron thorns is even worse in monotype
tacit sphinx
All we’re missing is a cameo by Jasmine fr fr
pseudo goblet
random stream
tacit sphinx
Dear Game Freak please give us a Jasmine cameo where she eats sammich
placid junco
I mean the Kimono girls wouldn’t be out of place in the wave 1 DLC
maiden flax
Have you ever noticed the drawings of the paradoxs do not match 1 for 1 what the actual paradoxes look like?
pseudo goblet
I wanted a fluffy tiger
Image?
golden lance
pseudo goblet
Ah, I was confused whose the tiger here
tacit sphinx
I had kind of a funny idea recently
What mon would be best if you just dropped it into Gen 1
I guess the rules are uh
No moves past gen 1
And no abilities exist so
Yeah
No types past gen 1 either I guess
Honestly I think it would have to be like Deoxys
Like Deoxys-A Hyper Beam, you literally just press it six times and you win
random stream
Probs not the best but 200 special regice sounds like a fun time
tacit sphinx
lmao truuuuuuue
golden lance
Regigigas tbh
Either him or slaking
Like, you don't get crippled by para on switch in like deoxys
And you can still spam normal stab to your heart's content
random stream
You said it choc
daring pine
pseudo goblet
1 week left…
crimson moat
really unfortunate that if this is the replacement. Thought they would go the route of using Team Star's main crew as the replacement
crimson moat
While I'm glad they are at least sticking to 1 thing, because Journeys handled SwSh stuff awfully, I do think an SV anime would have been the way to go
latent sleet
Which five should I use for my Norman team?
i reckon mothman can use sleep powder or something
crimson moat
Intimidate bros
Sableye
Tempted to say sac Koffing during it.
And I guess one of the rocky bois.
I feel like Mothman would get squashed for being too slow and cannot switch in reliably, sounds like something you'd use as a follow up to a sacrifice.
crimson moat
Sixth is Marshtomp
Wait I didn't read this part, yeah he has Protect by then.
pseudo goblet
crimson moat
Also since it hasn't been brought up yet, the latest episode does have a movie reference
tacit sphinx
very sinister indeedee
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
Bold of them not using Quaquaval instead
warm sky
Cute
pseudo goblet
Jokes aside, AAAHH DECIDUEYE
warm sky
The birb that loses birb type
And becomes BASED because of it
random stream
Gyara for intim pivoting @snow oasis
mighty storm
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/uUp7-JnRsI0KZNh2nzZenW0vMh4p5CSeYSG...
I get it
Gen 4 Flint
snow oasis
Norman down and STILL deathless
mighty storm
normal cave
17:18-17:35 main point
I had to box rowlett during my mono flying run
pseudo goblet
https://tenor.com/view/aha-michael-groth-mandjtv-mandjtv-plays-i-have-an-idea-gi...
Team sky/rocket grunts unite
normal cave
I got to use it during my mono ghost run, but that's about it
jagged linden
Bold of them not using Quaquaval instead <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
it was bfs idea lmao
I just went along with it
also Quaquaval ironically looks too similar the only standout is the coat and all that
spice rivet
Baxcalibur Chien about to go dummy
Especially since super energy retrieval got a reprint
tacit sphinx
Baxcalibur Chien about to go dummy
This is just Rain Dance Blastoise
spice rivet
Ye, Rain Dance comes back every now and then
Frosmoth was worse Rain Dance during SwSh
pseudo goblet
bleak pine
Slap all that Water Energy down
pseudo goblet
Chien Pao is still the, most ‘noticeable’ new pokemon name to me, since, it’s simple Chinese, I’m Chinese, the name basically translates to ‘blade’ ‘leopard’
It’s rather hard to ignore it when someone mentions this thing 
pseudo goblet
The other three I’m not having the same situation with, also useless fact, I actually share name with one of the ruined treasure, irl
Its like, you can’t help but look up when some Japanese Pokémon fan calls a Chansey ‘Lucky’(Chansey Japanese name)
normal cave
The other three I’m not having the same situation with, also useless fact, I act...
don't tell me which one it is or isn't, don't doxx yourself
pseudo goblet
Huh, apparently they didn’t use it for in-game translate, ancient-sword-leopard, sure I guess
crimson moat
Baxcalibur Chien about to go dummy
Really doubt it with how little support there is for setting up stage 2s
Chien Pao will end up in Palkia no doubt
pseudo goblet
Huh, apparently they didn’t use it for in-game translate, ancient-sword-leopard,...
Pfft they added the extra ‘ancient’ in all four of their names
cunning osprey
I dont like Iron Jugulis
crimson moat
Oh god I hate Chiyu’s Chinese name… wtf…
Isn’t that just the noise goofy makes
pseudo goblet
I rather do that then say this name more than 5 times a week…
cunning osprey
unlike other Iron mon it looks nearly identical to its counterpart
they could have made him more mecha ghidora like
pseudo goblet
unlike other Iron mon it looks nearly identical to its counterpart
I mean, guess that means they are successful at replicating the hydra’s looks
Heh, ‘A pair’ ‘mouse’, cute I guess
Let me guess, ‘a house of’ ‘mouse’?
Checked, yup
sand forge
they could have made him more mecha ghidora like
They could've made Hydreigon into an actual tank
Since that's what Hydreigon is meant to be based on
pseudo goblet
Huh
sand forge
Huh
According to interviews with Ken Sugimori in Nintendo Dream, Hydreigon and its evolutionary family were originally intended to have aspects of tanks. These Pokémon were scrapped until late in development, when they were revived and remade to be based on Yamata no Orochi.
pseudo goblet
So, tank became an orochi
sand forge
Then future Hydreigon should return to tank
spice rivet
Really doubt it with how little support there is for setting up stage 2s
Watch them reprint Archies Ace in the Hole lmao
crimson moat
Watch them reprint Archies Ace in the Hole lmao
That on the other hand, would be meta if they reprinted Archies
At least SV now has a second staple draw support
Iono's gonna be the most popular card in the second western set because of that
spice rivet
Ya, an N sidegrade def is nice
viral ingot
mighty storm
https://tenor.com/view/tess-spheal-gif-22641311
bleak pine
"Spheal Cold"
mighty storm
Two more characters have been revealed for the Pokémon anime series as part of the Explorers group: Jill and his Rhydon and Conia and her Golduck
bleak pine
Ayyyy Rhydon
fading stratus
Smh not rhyperior
placid junco
But rhyperior doesn’t appeal to the pokeboomers!
bleak pine
Honestly do prefer Rhydon to Rhypherior
clever saddle
https://twitter.com/cocodar/status/1636369628996993025?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfA...
Never thought about sizzlipede being that small
bleak pine
Rhypherior just feels super out of place compared to how Rhydon was going.
...Even if having arm cannon's that shoot rocks is cool
pseudo goblet
Never thought about sizzlipede being that small
It’s a little babey 
void herald
Honestly *do* prefer Rhydon to Rhypherior
same tbh
golden lance
Message wasn't really clear
pseudo goblet
Rhyhorn 
outer eagle
Rhydon the original mon standing up post-evolution 
bleak pine
Rhydon just looks a little more bombastic
Whereas for Rhypherior
Though, will admit, they definitely nailed the "Absolute unit" aspect for Rhypherior
harsh path
Rhyperior just feels a little overdesigned to me
bleak pine
Also that yeah
I do appreciate how the item you use to evolve it actually ends up being incorporated into its body
harsh path
As much as I’d happily say that Electivire is the best looking of its line imo
bleak pine
Whereas you don't get that same thing with Magmortar and Electivire
harsh path
Dusknoir is also a big depature from Duskull and Dusclops
bleak pine
Yeah, Duskull and Dusclops were big doofy ghosts that ended up scaring people.
And then it becomes a literal emissary of the afterlife.
harsh path
Though Dusclops is a case of previous evo being better than the final evo
golden lance
Dusknoir is also a big depature from Duskull and Dusclops
Tbf you could cut dusclops from the line and it would make sense
harsh path
Thanks Eviolite, very cool!
bleak pine
I can appreciate Duskull and Dusclops finally giving Ghost-types a way to throw hands.
Cause, some on, whatcha gonna do with a ghost-type in RSE
Gengar got noodle hands
mighty storm
gender nonconformity in Jill also 💖
bleak pine
https://pkmncards.com/card/rhydon-burning-shadows-bus-66/
On the subject of Rhydon
tacit sphinx
adventures in learning gsc ou: sleep talk just called rest five times in a row
please kill me
tacit sphinx
i builded
pseudo goblet
Better keep it in transparent case, the front and back tail tips are gonna lost easy 
tacit sphinx
Better keep it in transparent case, the front and back tail tips are gonna lost ...
I used plastic model glue on every block
pseudo goblet
normal cave
when the wake is walking!
frigid rivet
Story mode, dream eater + sleep powder on exeggutor is nice for recovery
And dream eater actually does more damage than psychic/more PP
normal cave
Well, shit
At least azu beats the shit out of wake
And wezl can sometimes 2-shot it with wave crash
lucid moth
i think wake is a manageable ou threat
normal cave
It is annoying for rain to deal with
Forces me to run azu over scizor, and winds up making me weaker to other shit
Manageable or not, it is personally annoying to me
I'm nowhere near good enough at the game to be a proper judge.
sand forge
https://twitter.com/typefate1/status/1636719533502386176?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWL...
Not Normal/Bug
tacit sphinx
Why do all the Gen 9 mons I like suck absolute shit
Why did they make Spidops the way it is
bleak pine
It's a shame.
I mean, if it's any consolation it gives... Ariados competition...? Question mark?
Spoders are weird.
placid junco
Nah ariados is better
pseudo goblet
The reason why people like bug type Pokémon, they are better than irl bugs
mighty storm
facts
pseudo goblet
Too bad this was out before Tarountula exist, or else it’s perfect for the mon
pseudo goblet
Btw uh, sorry summer
hexed valley
@wild imp yes, it was me
i was getting voting reqs for stabmons
fake metagame 
posted a banger meme in the thread though
maiden flax
The reason why people like bug type Pokémon, they are better than irl bugs <:nya...
But... i like both
pseudo goblet
I respect that
But like, no way I’m going near a real life centipede, Centiskorch is the only little biter I like
normal cave
The reason why people like bug type Pokémon, they are better than irl bugs <:nya...
Disagree ngl
I'm with Metro on this one
Irl bugs are cute and really cool
pseudo goblet
Again, that’s cool 
But still like, I rather keep a Snom then like, idk, a colony of ants or a spider?
young magnet
bleak pine
Good pull!
pseudo goblet
It’s between Emmet or Hop before April 6th-9th, not really expecting a hit, also with that I think we getting a new season of units soon so I might wanna save the gems
spice rivet
Did an S/V Prerelease, Banette ex was my only good hit, while the two people beside me pulled a Zard Vmax, Gyarados ex and 2 of the illustration rares lmao
pseudo goblet
Doing my dex right now, sharing best slug pic, also I’m going for that Luxray in the background after I change next Pokémon to Lv up
cunning osprey
So since Gen 9 had all of these variant ideas is there anything left for Pokémon to do
sand forge
So since Gen 9 had all of these variant ideas is there anything left for Pokémon...
Paradoxes but good designs?
normal cave
Could go dream/nightmare versions
Give me eldrich salamence with six eyes or something
Need some CREEPY pokemon
cunning osprey
I kinda want mutant Pokémon
pseudo goblet
@normal cave https://twitter.com/maruyaki45/status/1637475358252634118?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
placid junco
I think we'll probably at least continue to see past/extinct forms of pre-existing pokemon, even if we don't see futuristic pokemon
especially if we get more legends games
normal cave
As long as we get more wezl and cool dragons I'm fine
spice rivet
Honestly with how much focus Shiny Rayquaza has gotten over the years, I sort of expect them to just make Shiny Ray a new pokemon lmaooooooo
warm sky
cunning osprey
I wonder what new stuff will gen 5's remake (or its legends) will bring for the legendaries
the gen 4 Legends gave us Palkia and Dialga's Origin forms
we do know before they settled on Black and White Kyurem GF considered Kyurem to fuse with someone
cunning osprey
given by unused version names they could have considered Genesect, Victini, or even Landorus
I have a feeling they will never show us the original dragon
mighty storm
Doing my dex right now, sharing best slug pic, also I’m going for that Luxray in...
fwen 😮
pseudo goblet
Imagine like, this thing only allows you to see the front like, it will attempt to not show you its non-front side
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
tacit sphinx
Night 2 of doing these
“Nooooo GSC OU don’t turn me into a marketable Nanoblock”
“GSC O—“
warm sky
Yo wtf, Jason Paige the singer of the OG theme is coming to my mall next month???
sand forge
Ask for signs
Sings*
pseudo goblet
Both
bleak pine
Both is good
lucid moth
obsidian juniper
fading stratus
Did the OU council ban walking wake yet
placid junco
No
latent sleet
thats suprising since its on every ou player shitlist
jagged linden
Wait Walking Wake?
kind vortex
Wait Walking Wake?
ye it dodged a ban
crimson moat
FYI that's an edit
bleak pine
Skarmory~
normal cave
Summer is a box legendary
819 bst
Nvm summer is an unobtainable boss pokemon that gets beat up by the box legendaries in an unlosable final battle.
golden lance
Today i will spam dual wingbeat i suppose
tacit sphinx
wdym 10 atk
maiden flax
Here
tacit sphinx
Why’s everyone else getting so much higher BSTs
golden lance
Skill
maiden flax
Also holy hell i just looked at my stats
tacit sphinx
So I’m a special wall that dies to U-Turn
maiden flax
Apparently i have like
Legendary pokemon stats
164 def and 129 spdef with 112 hp
Alongside 137 atk and 114 speed is ridiculous lol
golden lance
maiden flax
and magic guard
maiden flax
Physical defensive wall and wall breaker
tacit sphinx
I am so mad
tacit sphinx
“Oh boy I can’t wait to be a broken mon!”
“You are an Exeggutor version of Chansey and your ability is Rattled”
“C-can I be a Blissey at least”
“No”
warm sky
wdym 10 atk
You're a generation 2 pokémon
crimson moat
146 Attack
155 Speed
240 HP
Ability: Truant
But that's ok because I got Fairy Aura as a Hidden Ability
sand forge
Tanky Libero?
sand forge
@snow oasis nice health stat nerd
vagrant steppe
Tanky Libero?
Nice stats, but I'm just gonna accelrock you
tacit sphinx
Dek has Shuckle defences with Lando-T typing and 161 speed and 140 Atk
warm sky
As for my real name:
172 HP
211 Attack
182 Defense
20 Special Attack
249 Special Defense
229 Speed
Fairy / Normal Type
Ability: Galvanize
Hidden Ability: Overcoat
vagrant steppe
Dek dies when I click stone edge
sand forge
I will dodge it
tacit sphinx
<@168417951454724096> nice health stat nerd
Griffin immediately dying to a Focus Sash mon with a spa above 50
crimson moat
Actual name has 226 attack, 215 speed, and Parental Bond
sand forge
real name
warm sky
Also I just wanna say
Galvanize??? Can't even have boomburst stab
sand forge
What is ???/Dark weak to
warm sky
That's just pure dark dek
crimson moat
normal cave
kills anything
Dies to quick attack
tacit sphinx
normal cave
I am reverse quagsire
sand forge
yo Rock/Ghost
warm sky
>kills anything
>Dies to quick attack
When the Slide is Grassy!
tacit sphinx
If anyone rolls Minus we’re officially besties
normal cave
When the Slide is Grassy!
Real name is pure fighting with high offense, low defense, and a mold breaker ability
vagrant steppe
>kills anything
>Dies to quick attack
You one tap me. But I'm faster
vagrant steppe
I have 222 speed and 226 attack
normal cave
227/29/12 defenses is meme
normal cave
magic bounce
maiden flax
Compound eyes for hydro pump to never miss
vagrant steppe
These are just what stats are gonna look like next gen
tacit sphinx
These are just TCG stats fr
normal cave
Compound eyes for hydro pump to never miss
Never miss an aqua tail
golden lance
Real name
normal cave
You're clicking wave crash anywahs
tacit sphinx
This thing thinks you’re a fucking nerd
lucid moth
Compound eyes for hydro pump to never miss
i can run aqua tail without missing
golden lance
At least my username is the most broken flying type ever made
sand forge
golden lance
Oh cool
tacit sphinx
Dek wins
golden lance
It's zacian
vagrant steppe
My real name gets me the best bird
golden lance
15 speed
tacit sphinx
Shuckle is now a 204 Speed mon with Chlorophyll
This is Shuckle without the shell fr
normal cave
Shuckle is now a 204 Speed mon with Chlorophyll
sand forge
golden lance
Don't ask
sand forge
Yo they made Slow Start permanent
tacit sphinx
Biden Blast
sand forge
Gorilla tactics Joe Biden
maiden flax
Gorilla tactics Joe Biden
With his 5 whole atk
sand forge
Plus choice band, that'll be like 16 atk
Would be interesting to see a choice band effect on a sp Atk mon
As a downside
warm sky
Honestly would be an interesting take on negative abilities
vagrant steppe
I wish we'd get more negative abilities tbh
But gamefreak has said they won't because they make people feel bad
I mean hell, look at perfectly fine mons who have had marginally negative abilities and see how much people go "oh wow they suck"
sand forge
Didn't they just release Mycelium Might
obsidian juniper
vagrant steppe
Didn't they just release Mycelium Might
Yeah, but I think for some reason they consider it an upside
vagrant steppe
I dunno how you look at Mycelium Might and go "oh that's an upside" but they did
sand forge
Especially given it doesn't work
obsidian juniper
NU menance
golden lance
Somehow better than pyroar
placid junco
I mean corrosion could be neat with the right movepool
tacit sphinx
I wish we'd get more negative abilities tbh
The problem is more that negative abilities are comically negative
vagrant steppe
The problem is more that negative abilities are *comically* negative
Yeah that too
tacit sphinx
Like think about the explicitly-designed negative abilities for a sec
Truant, Slow Start, Stall, and Defeatist
All fucking cripple mons
Like don’t get me wrong I don’t think Slaking or Regigigas is tearing up the meta without their abilities but they at least become like UU mons
and not unusable
placid junco
Regigigas would probably not even be UU without slow start because of its dogshit movepool
tacit sphinx
I think more abilities like hustle would be cool
You know what’s a good one for this
Weak Armour