Pokemon

[jagged linden]

perfect IV Charmander from a random trade

[vagrant steppe]

That's how I got my Charmander

[normal cave]

[vagrant steppe]

Still need a Bulbasaur

But I'm at 2 starters

[jagged linden]

is Charizard good at all comp wise? or nah

[normal cave]

Wonder trading breedjects is the best

[vagrant steppe]

Nah not really

[jagged linden]

rn I'm sending my raid rejects rn haha

[pseudo goblet]

Found another good swine fusion

If this thing floats in the air it will be my best friend no joke

[vagrant steppe]

Oh right, I should fuse honedge with Charizard over Pidgeotto

[normal cave]

gives chancey everstone
Hey look chansey has an item
Takes everstone off it

Chat why

Why am I like this

[vagrant steppe]

I can drop Pidgeotto at this point since I've got Dugbat

Although Dugbat is getting dropped later

[normal cave]

Also I decided my last mon on my stall team will be volc/ninetales

For weather reset and because it's just a broken sweeper

...on a stall team

[vagrant steppe]

Now the question is who to fuse Magnemite with

Well magneton

Maybe houndour?

[normal cave]

Something floating

[pseudo goblet]

Skarmary?

[normal cave]

Fuse with pidge for budget skarm

Or maybe houndoor for a special nuke yeah

[vagrant steppe]

This seems solid

[normal cave]

Trying to get a rare bone to get smeargle by smashing rocks. The game is making me play minecraft

[pseudo goblet]

Oh hey look, Pokemon cafe mix made it to Masters EX

[vagrant steppe]

Although I do already have a special nuke in the form of Wartortle/Raichu

So maybe something else

[normal cave]

gives rare bone
Gets diamond

Noooo chat it's the wrong quest

[vagrant steppe]

They should add pvp to this game. I'm terrified of what the online meta would look like

Actually, I built a better Lando for it

Behold

You lose the versatile movepool of Lando but you get a nasty sweeper

[normal cave]

Well, turns out I missed the event to get the rocket ID so I can't get smeargle

Ah well, rattata works too

[latent sleet]

goes kinda hard

[bleak pine]

what

[latent sleet]

pokemon fusion thingy thats popular

[bleak pine]

oh

[pseudo goblet]

Flaming swine

Or is it a ghost who stole Mamo’s body and replaced everything inside with itself

[normal cave]

Ok, so ratdinja gets endeavor plus 3 priority moves

[pseudo goblet]

Wait I need to see Mamo and Jirachi

… Disappointed

Wouldn’t say this is cool, just goofy, but a good one

[pseudo goblet]

Thank Copper

[normal cave]

Well chat, stacking toxic spikes plus swapping shedinjas around is my new strat

[placid junco]

broken

[normal cave]

I am going to toxic stall the E4

[jagged linden]

what does this mean

what order is the stats in here

[pseudo goblet]

Which one is better part 3

[jagged linden]

HP/Attack/Defense/Speed/SP.D/Sp.Atk I assume?

[placid junco]

I always assume speed goes last

[pseudo goblet]

Hp, atk, def, sp atk, sp def, Spd if you ask me

[vagrant steppe]

That's correct

[jagged linden]

that.. makes no sense to me

[vagrant steppe]

It's the same order as in game

[jagged linden]

I thought it was going clockwise

why is speed last then

[obsidian juniper]

yeah this feels the most natural

[pseudo goblet]

[jagged linden]

tbh my goal rn is I'm gonna ev train a bunch of random pokemon

and try to make multiple teams

just not sure how I wanna approach yet

[vagrant steppe]

Older games displayed it down the line that way

There wasn't the chart until BW

[pseudo goblet]

Usually I just check stuff like this and follow

And aint most Pokémon doing the same stat order as well?

Should I cry or laugh from this?

[normal cave]

Team is now complete

Full team is lapras/omastar, shed/umbreon, shed/ratticate, blissey/cofagrigus, chansey/shuckle, and ninetales/volcarona

The idea is to stack toxic spikes and then stall forever

But I forgot rapid spin, fuck

I could go ninetales/foretress ig

Or cof/foretress

[golden lance]

Ngl

Kinda want to do an aegislash only run

[vagrant steppe]

No Fusions?

Just the slash?

[golden lance]

Including fusion

[vagrant steppe]

Oh only Aegislash fusions

Fair

A lot of them look sick

[golden lance]

Yea there's not a single bad one

Well

Either aegislash or porygon z

[normal cave]

Ok, I have a rapid spinner

[vagrant steppe]

I'm fusing slash with Charizard

[normal cave]

Foretress/magnezone

[vagrant steppe]

This guy is sick

[normal cave]

It can also set hazards

Yoooooo

Dragons in armor is my jam

[vagrant steppe]

Steel/Fire is also just a solid typing

[warm sky]

Some aegis don't have good fusions because the fusions are just generic sprites

[normal cave]

Yeee

Speaking of steel fire

[warm sky]

Like this

[normal cave]

Do I replace volc/ninetales with ninetalse/jirachi?

[warm sky]

Ya know which 2 I love
The nidos

[normal cave]

Well, ninetales/volc is kinda bulky despite shit typing

Nvm keeping it

It's a bulky sun sweeper that sets its own sun. Can clean up after I stall the whole game

[warm sky]

Oh my god

[normal cave]

I have hazards, haze, rapid spin, and a lot of stall

[warm sky]

I discovered the most

Fusions

[normal cave]

Owo

[vagrant steppe]

Yo those are awesome

[vagrant steppe]

Holy shit

[warm sky]

The latter is just

Fucked up

[normal cave]

[golden lance]

[pseudo goblet]

I know I’m the one with a messed-up mind but there is that fine line

[vagrant steppe]

It's okay, they're happy here

If you fuse two kangaskhan, you get mega

[normal cave]

Have some cute fusion instead

[pseudo goblet]

I wonder, try Kangkha with any ghost types, the artist of THAT earlier wouldn’t have just make one

[normal cave]

They did rotom, too

[vagrant steppe]

That's cute

[pseudo goblet]

Second this ^

[normal cave]

Chat I need to release mons the game can't handle my pc

Found the cutest one

[pseudo goblet]

Needed a Metagross break, successful

[normal cave]

Oh hey look evangelion

[pseudo goblet]

…

I just remembered a certain ghost type…

Oh boy…

Okay, the Kangkha are safe from ghost balloons, nothing special found

What’s the name that gen 4 fossil again?

Not Basti

[normal cave]

Craniados/rampardos

[pseudo goblet]

Thx

No unique art from the fossil

Although…

Aha, found something from fusing the fossils together

[normal cave]

Rampardos has some unique art because of its absurd atk stat

[pseudo goblet]

The red sword would’ve look cooler without the chicken head

[normal cave]

Wait, charizard gets belly drum

Charizard/aegislash gets absurd belly drum shadow sneaks

@vagrant steppe belly drum on charizard/aegislash

[pseudo goblet]

Yo this one this decent

[normal cave]

You can teach egg moves to pokemon at some point after blaine

[pseudo goblet]

Weird winged flaming sword 😅

[vagrant steppe]

I'm going the other way and getting big armored dragon

[pseudo goblet]

Oooh hello, triple sword with Doublade

@warm sky does this remind you that one digimon? What’s the name again

[lucid moth]

i gotta say it again lets not spam the fusions in the chat

[vagrant steppe]

I'd def suggest we have a thread for it then, since at least a few of us are actually playing the game

[warm sky]

Which one?

Knightmon?

[pseudo goblet]

The one like, gold color child level digimon with sword on top

Was in Ghost game months ago

[vagrant steppe]

Oh yeah @golden lance you get a honedge really early (after Surge) so you could theoretically have 6 asap

[pseudo goblet]

Btw @warm sky @dense matrix does this image feel different now? Lol

[vagrant steppe]

Actually I think you can do it before surge

You just need cut

[normal cave]

You need to beat surge to get to the daycare tho

And there is a ditto in celadon I think, if you want to breed it

[vagrant steppe]

Still relatively early

[normal cave]

Def

I can use aegi on my stall team if I replace its ability ig, but it's got a p offensive movepool

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/RhafToze/status/1620441103211315202/photo/1 @pseudo goblet

[pseudo goblet]

What the, I swear I saw this artist’s Eevee rider drawing earlier today

[normal cave]

Why is bronzong not in this game

I want my fire/steel levitate mon

[pseudo goblet]

Any fire type that has Levitate?

[vagrant steppe]

Nope

[kind vortex]

rotom heat

[normal cave]

Not in the game

[kind vortex]

rotom heat is absolutely a pokemon

unless we're talking gen 3 or earlier, which isn't specified in the question

[vagrant steppe]

Rotom is, I was just not counting it because it's not in infinite fusion

[normal cave]

We're talking a specific pokemon fangame

Which also does not have bronzong

And the only gen 7 mon in that game is, apparently, pyukumuku

[placid junco]

i wonder why

[normal cave]

They play favorites ig

Certain pokemon have way more customized fusion sprites than others

And any gen past 2 seems to only have some of the mons

Adding even one more pokemon is adding hundreds more due to how fusions work

[void herald]

mimikyu is in too

[vagrant steppe]

Oh hell yeah

[normal cave]

[bleak pine]

Monster Hunter

[normal cave]

I thought blissey/cofagrigus had a special fusion because of how chansey had one with yamask

Nope. Just goofy-ass blissey smile at a weird angle

[normal cave]

Endeavor shedinja obtained

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-bwoi-grin-chef-gif-18525191

It works

2-shot every mon except ghosts with 0 chance for them to retaliate

[mighty storm]

https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1620572655534444549

Pokémon (@Pokemon)

You: Minding your business having a nice time on the water

Veluza:

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[normal cave]

bug/steel has only one weakness

Do I get a third shedinja?

[latent sleet]

the veluza going to your location 50 km/h while you shiny hunt

https://tenor.com/view/black-handsome-man-gif-26189177

[golden lance]

Wait

How does evolution work in infinite fusion?

[normal cave]

Each half evolves separately as normal

If both halves would evolve at once, only one does

And the other half evolves next time

[golden lance]

Huh

[vagrant steppe]

Yup. Certain mons can evolve 5 times then

[bleak pine]

Veluza literally flays itself alive to dart forward and thrash stuff

[normal cave]

faster than you
70 base speed

Also I found out how beautiful the vulpix and chinchou line (evolutions too) are when fused together. Not posting here to avoid spamming tho

But ninetales chinchou is something else

[mighty storm]

cute

[bleak pine]

Well, being honest, Speed isn't always in relation to actual swiftness

[normal cave]

But veluza is all about speed in its dex entries

It's whole schtick is speed

[bleak pine]

Escavalier is said to be very fast, but it's speed says otherwise. Might just be chalked up to not being able to maneuver that quick

[normal cave]

And it is slow

[mighty storm]

wait which version symph?

[bleak pine]

Oh, Versions? I picked Scarlet!

[mighty storm]

No, the chinchou

wait

[normal cave]

Does veluza not chase you nimbly?

[mighty storm]

Im dumb, foolish said that

[bleak pine]

Ah

[mighty storm]

which one foolish?

[normal cave]

The water fire one

[bleak pine]

Yeah, Veluza is just friggin' quick, but I can imagine it's not exactly nimble.

[mighty storm]

good

[bleak pine]

Like, how quickly it can bite down or something

...Just a guess.

[normal cave]

The other one does not have a custom sprite

Why would it not be quick to bite

Have you seen fish bite?

If anything, it is part psychic, so it should know when to bite even faster

[bleak pine]

It's more on the whole actual speed being unrelated to the speed stat

True enough, but most psychic types aren't always big brain or something

[mighty storm]

I like the wasp from gen 8

[bleak pine]

Like, yeah, I feel it should have a higher speed stat, but at the same time

[mighty storm]

they got the big brain

[golden lance]

btw

[bleak pine]

Big Brain? Oh, you mean Orbeetle

[mighty storm]

yes

[bleak pine]

It's uh, not a wasp, but a ladybug

[mighty storm]

actually its both

[golden lance]

is there a way to see what fusions have a custom sprite or not?

[bleak pine]

Which when you think about it, is pretty bizarre how it goes from a caterpillar to a ladybug-thing

...Really? It's both?

Huh.

[mighty storm]

yeah

its based off the green eyed wasp, a british wasp

[bleak pine]

Oooh

[mighty storm]

who mind controls ladybugs to guard its eggs

[bleak pine]

That's another one for Galar just having the most posh mons ever

[normal cave]

https://aegide.github.io/

Gives a preview of what the fusion looks like

[bleak pine]

Go forward and activate Polymerization

[normal cave]

Not a list of all custom sprite ones, but lets you plan the fusion before comitting

V good for planning abilities, typing, and base stats

[bleak pine]

It looks like an odd mod all things considered

Anything cool with Blaziken?

[normal cave]

Yes

A few

[bleak pine]

Oooh

[mighty storm]

https://youtu.be/s2reA0xZggE?t=820

[bleak pine]

Yeah, Orbeetle has so much good going for it

They really done their research with this one

[mighty storm]

Gen 8 mons are so british

even down to the fossils

[normal cave]

Blaziken/bisharp in particular looks really sweet AND strong

Steel/fire typing, speed boost, insane atk stat

And the sprite is cool

Get one swords dance off with speed boost and sweep

[mighty storm]

Like this little cutie who is a joke on the fossil wars, such a cute little abomination of nature a cute little abomination who took the meta by storm

[bleak pine]

Alright, gonna take your word for it and activate polymerization.

holy shit it does

I want it so much now

And yeah, the fossil chimera's are pretty neat too

...In spite of how much they just shouldn't keep existing

[normal cave]

Infinite fusion is a good fangame

[bleak pine]

You can still use the standard mons in this mod, yeah?

[normal cave]

Yep

[bleak pine]

Ah, cool, there's options!

[normal cave]

So long as they are in the game

Not everything is in

[mighty storm]

shellos isnt in 😦

[normal cave]

But fusion is not mandatory

[mighty storm]

omg weedle shelgon is hilarious

[normal cave]

In the early game it's hard to use fusions, but lategame you can make insanely broken fusions

If I so choose, I can make 3 different shedinjas with only one weakness, each weakness different

And one of those knows endeavor and has multiple priority moves

Shedinja/scizor as a bug/steel with only a fire weakness and high base atk

Shedinja/raticate with only a dark weakness and endeavor/priority

And shedinja/any dark mon, I chose umbreon because it looks pretty fused, absol works too

Absol gives the option to not be so passive, so maybe do that

There are many other broken fusions, I just really like shedinja

[golden lance]

machamp/aegislash looks really cool

both forms

[golden lance]

btw

what are some of the mons that people consider having the best fusions, design wise?

i saw a lot of ppl saying aegislash, rotom, and pory z

[golden lance]

[maiden flax]

specifically it's speed when it fillets away

it even does that in the overworld!

fillets away and then charge at you

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/farfetchd-galarian-farfetchd-pokemon-farfetchd-pokémon-galarian-farfetchd-gif-26454607

If y’all heard the original clip, this will be a gif with sound

[mighty storm]

I have not seen the original clip

[pseudo goblet]

https://youtu.be/7eHg4ogGIeA

1:21, the little duck spoke English lol

[pseudo goblet]

https://twitter.com/chocomint_null/status/1620495251264933888?s=46&t=xnVyHKihxL4hNBCv2VWPCg

nullma (@chocomint_null)

ナミイルカ ワッカネズミ
うみべのであい

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[harsh path]

d o l p h

[warm sky]

https://youtu.be/2ZEBkdGJnl4

Anyway congrats bro

[random stream]

Thanks. CB Baxcalibur all the way

[maiden flax]

Niceee

Youre almost to top 10!

[random stream]

still a long way to go haha, I doubt I can do it

[normal cave]

Congrats man!

[random stream]

thanks everyone

[warm sky]

[mighty storm]

ooh

[sand forge]

The fossil wars being an American thing

"so British" indeed

Gen 8 is barely British

And mostly American, again

[mighty storm]

William Buckland

[sand forge]

Literally what about him

[mighty storm]

I dont have time to explain, Im currently in a debate. Just watch this vid, he explains this better

https://youtu.be/LXxNiUSR3OE

He was british btw, because of course he was

[sand forge]

But not involved in the Bone Wars at all

[normal cave]

sandaconda
british
What

centipedes and american bomber planes

kung-fu

Some shit in gen 8 is british, but that's like saying "oh this thing which is based off x makes references to x"

[latent sleet]

you’re gonna tell me obstagoon isn’t a british pokemon

[sand forge]

It's based on Kiss

An American band

[normal cave]

It's based of hemkn WEZL

[latent sleet]

idk he looks like he’s gonna shank me

[sand forge]

Zigzagoon/Linoone being badger colours is British

But Obstagoon is not

[normal cave]

You can get shanked here too

Shanking is universal

[sand forge]

New Vigoroth evolution

[latent sleet]

but the real question is, are you the person who shanks or is shanked

[sand forge]

Slaking but with Sharpness

[normal cave]

With my noodle arms?

[sand forge]

Rillaboom is the weakest British connection

Inteleon & bnnuy are both fine

[latent sleet]

funny monke

https://tenor.com/view/space-apes-united-ape-sau-chimp-event-space-ape-gif-21682481

[normal cave]

Ladybugs, coral, and octopi are british

[sand forge]

Coral is ok, but not for the reasons they gave

[normal cave]

Also, my favorite reference, the word "indeed"

[sand forge]

Cold water Coral is a thing

But ghost Coral is based on dead coral

Cold water Coral isn't dead

[normal cave]

Tbf indeed is indeed an english word

[latent sleet]

whats grimmsnarl supposed to be

german bedstories?

[crimson moat]

Ghost coral I would immediately think is an Oceania thing tho

[sand forge]

Also famously British animals: snapping turtle

[normal cave]

A fae I think

Dek

Elephamnt

[mighty storm]

reminder:

[latent sleet]

steel elephant

[sand forge]

That's based on British stealing shit from India

So ironically actually a British ref

[crimson moat]

That one was pretty blatant yeah

[sand forge]

Ye

[normal cave]

Then why is it british

[sand forge]

https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/wildlife-explorer/marine/anemones-and-corals/cold-water-coral

[normal cave]

If it's not even supposed to be there

You're only strengthening my point

[crimson moat]

Then why is it ghost type

[mighty storm]

Ya know, the mon that technically isn't a galar mon because it's from somewhere else

[latent sleet]

quaquaval is apparently from another region too

[normal cave]

Then it's a non-british gen 8 mon

[mighty storm]

Because it died, the coral is dying

[sand forge]

I'm agreeing with you btw

[latent sleet]

which doesn’t make sense

[crimson moat]

No shit but the reference doesn't line up well

[sand forge]

Only tropical coral.

[crimson moat]

There is something else clearly branded ghost coral

[normal cave]

My point is that the statement "gen 8 mons are so british" is pointless

[sand forge]

Sorry, by ghost Coral I mean Corsola but forgot the name

[normal cave]

Not all gen 8 mons reference something british

[sand forge]

[crimson moat]

I understand what you mean, but I'm saying that "Cold water coral" doesn't do a good translation to ghost type

Particularly when there is something else already labeled ghost coral in another region of the world

[sand forge]

Ye I agree

[normal cave]

Ice type coral

[sand forge]

A white Corsola could work, but not as a ghost type

[warm sky]

Best example of not British is Eiscue

It's a penguin ice cube

[sand forge]

Also Sandaconda

For those notorious British deserts

[normal cave]

Nah being cold is exclusively british

[sand forge]

I'm not sure what Toxtricity is supposed to be

[normal cave]

All those snow posts peeps on the subserver post are sponsored by Big Snow

Metal, I assume

[mighty storm]

Industrialization

[normal cave]

Or punk rock

[warm sky]

Punk Rock

Ya know.

The music heavily associated with the UK

[crimson moat]

Remember when the phalanx was iconized somewhere in the English region?

(Looks at Greece)

[warm sky]

Also vaguely lizard or salamander

[sand forge]

Makes sense to me

[crimson moat]

Falinks makes more sense if it originated from Alto Mare in movie 5

[sand forge]

I assume it's based on the Roman occupation of Britain

But I fully accept that's reaching

[warm sky]

Okay but that is a reference to the Roman Empire's relationship with the UK.

Same reason we got norse mons too

I don't think it's a reach personally

[crimson moat]

I think that is reaching too, but that's probably the closest we get to that

Still when Alto Mare region

[sand forge]

The fossils are the biggest offenders though

Not only do they look genuinely in pain

[normal cave]

Give italy region I want my alfredo sauce and deep dish pizza mons

[warm sky]

Yeah I hate the fossils

[sand forge]

There's a ton of British paleontology you could reference

[crimson moat]

Someone will stretch in that London invented Jigsaw puzzles on this.

[warm sky]

But I genuinely do not like mons whose existence is just "pain and suffering"

[normal cave]

Dracozolt is the only one that looks happy

[sand forge]

Hell, Gen 8 introduced Dragapult

Just make Dragapult a fossil

[crimson moat]

Pair it with Trebuchet fossil

The superior seige pokemon

[sand forge]

Like a Stego that launches rocks

[normal cave]

Same, I want to hug them or put them down, I'm not excited to use them at all

[sand forge]

That'd be cool

[crimson moat]

Dragapult and Stegochet

[normal cave]

Dragapult is the american top-secret stealth bomber mon ye?

[crimson moat]

change Dragapult to be based on a catapult

Completely nerf its stats in the process

No speed stat

Turns into special Rampardos

[sand forge]

Give us Iguanadon Horn Form & Iguanadon Thumb Form

If you want to reference the shuffling of bones about

And a new OHKO move

Thumb Drill

[normal cave]

[sand forge]

I feel like a Type: Null-style evolution would work well for them, where they become more unified

[crimson moat]

now I just picture all the fossil pieces being combined together

[normal cave]

Yeah, if they evolve and their new bodies just mend the damage

[crimson moat]

all of them

[normal cave]

Like arctovish flipping upside down, or dracovish developing lungs and a little fish tail

[warm sky]

Personally my preferred idea is having it be a 2 stage evo, where the first stage is based in the false reconstruction and the latter on a more modern accurate reconstruction

[normal cave]

I just want them to be happy

[sand forge]

That could also work

[sand forge]

Monstrous

[mighty storm]

I want to see the other halves

[placid junco]

Torkoal in UU

Wow

[normal cave]

Pelli in ou again

Does that mean floatzel time?

[latent sleet]

oh magnezone is up

i guess because of its ability maybe?

[crimson moat]

With Tinkaton as the current big name there

[sand forge]

Is Torkoal due to Chiyu ban

[placid junco]

Probably

[warm sky]

Floatzel is genuinely not bad this gen so

Yes

[placid junco]

I think it’ll still see big usage because protosynthesis

[crimson moat]

Also looking over some of the viability talk on Magnezone, people were calling it being a legit good pokemon in UU speculating that it would be good as soon as Espartha left

[lucid moth]

it has been floatzel time for a while

[normal cave]

...

[crimson moat]

Torkoal entering UU seems fun

[normal cave]

Time to use soggy spaghetti

[snow oasis]

wave crash go brrr

[sand forge]

I figure Orthworm is combination of Chi Yu ban & Cyclizar ban

[snow oasis]

Mostly Cyclizar I’d guess

Earth Eater gets a bit less useful with the feesh ban

[jagged linden]

Tbh I still feel a lot lost when it comes to figuring out what makes a pokemon "good"

[sand forge]

But steel typing gets a whole lot better

[jagged linden]

most of the comp pokemon I've made I've made based on "haha big stronq stats beater with minor setup"

[sand forge]

Wonder why Future Hariyama got booted

[snow oasis]

I mean, you can’t go wrong with big stronk stats

[jagged linden]

but what makes people look at Orthworm and go "hey this is a good poke to build?"

is it just trial and error?

[snow oasis]

Shed Tail go brrr

[normal cave]

Ok so floatzel is a cb rain attacker?

[snow oasis]

Earth Eater is a solid ability

[crimson moat]

Does it fill a role a team would want?

[sand forge]

Orthworm is a steel type that's immune to ground type moves

And also has a strong pivot move

[normal cave]

Just click big damage move on wezl?

[crimson moat]

And the answer is "probably, ground immue steel pokemon with one of the most powerful moves in the current metagame"

It's definitely nowhere as scary as Cyclizar, but it makes an honest living

[jagged linden]

I think where I'm getting stuck is

like picking up a new tcg

[snow oasis]

There’s a nonzero chance that Floatzel rises in usage in OU while crashing out of UU now

[jagged linden]

I have no context on what makes pokemon look good.. yet

[sand forge]

Floats in usage

[jagged linden]

I vaguely understand that yeah you can't spam legends and win ofc

and that you need team variety and coverage

but I don't have the necessary knowledge yet to take that to the next step

[lucid moth]

i bring up great tusk as an example

optimized base stat distribution, great move pool, decent ability, good typing

[crimson moat]

You need to look over a pokemon's moveset and stats and figure out what that pokemon can do effectively for your team's plan

[lucid moth]

the mark of a true threat

[sand forge]

Can I get a Fire/Poison type starter with uhhh Earth Eater

[lucid moth]

no

[sand forge]

wtf

[lucid moth]

not just coverage is important, you have to consider how your mon does vs other good mons as well

[crimson moat]

And after figuring out what that pokemon's role can be you ask two questions:

• Is the role this pokemon can do useful against other teams?
• Is there a better pokemon that can do the same role?
• What other pokemon play well or would want this pokemon's role?

This is trick btw

you ask the first question last

it is a non-priority until you learn synergy

[lucid moth]

i start my teams by figuring out what i want to win with usually and build around that

[jagged linden]

true, I've been doing research into doubles meta and so I have a vague idea on what mons are good

[lucid moth]

example: i want a tera normal extreme speed dragonite to sweep for me

[jagged linden]

where I'm getting stuck is learning the logic behind why

[lucid moth]

so my team around him will involve hazard stacking, and deleting opposing ghost types or steel types that eq cant beat

and ensuring that dragonite stays healthy and wont break multiscale easily or can get hit with hazards easily

[crimson moat]

Falinks is a good example of a pokemon that needs synergy to function and why it ultimately fails as a threat even with Synergy

The synergy is around pairing it with pokemon that can remove types Falinks cannot obliterate itself, and supporting it with entry hazards so that it can deal with other defensive strategies or items that might impede it

Where it fails is that it needs a turn to power up, and even after that hits about as hard if not just softer than other pokemon filling the same role

And unlike a good example of a sweeper, like Dragonite, Falinks also doesn't carry a priority move for dealing with anything that might pose its own threats with priority moves or higher speed.

[lucid moth]

right should also mention in this same topic

pokemon that are strong individually naturally have an advantage

cus they can fit into any team or any role easily

this usually is bc they have good enough stats in various places and a higher bst

falinks is kind of hard-locked to be a sweeper for instance

[crimson moat]

And a movepool that allows them to fit onto those roles

[lucid moth]

but bc it is, it is outclassed by other better sweepers

[crimson moat]

Great Tusk, once again, has that kinda movepool and stat set where you don't have to dedicate it to brute offense

It has moves and strong enough defensive statline that it can fit into something more middling or defensive/support

[snow oasis]

Is Chien-Pao still OU legal?

[lucid moth]

but garchomp, another would-be sweeper, can also be a hazard setting lead, a phys def wall, a fast bulky pivot, or a disruptive revenge killer

yes

[crimson moat]

Currently on suspect test

[lucid moth]

it is being suspect tested

i think... im voting no ban on it

[normal cave]

Damn, wezl ban

[lucid moth]

set currently pushing it on chien pao is the choice band tera dark set

[crimson moat]

After the no-vote on Tera, I am thinking the popular opinion will be to ban it due to bias

[normal cave]

Banzel

[crimson moat]

kneejerk reactions and usage due to the open unpredictability of tera

[normal cave]

Means weavile is slightly less outclassed

[lucid moth]

yea probably gonna get banned but i would like it to not be

if chien pao goes i feel that we will feel espathra and garganacl way more

i dont find espathra to be all that evil but it is stupid under hyper offense

[crimson moat]

Finch will push it to suspect either way

[lucid moth]

we will have to see

[jagged linden]

what is Espathra used as?

anti setup then sweep?

[crimson moat]

Setup then Sweep

[lucid moth]

just set up and sweep

speed boost + calm mind

behind a substitute

[crimson moat]

The mimicry ability (Opportunist) pales compared to just setting up with Speed Boost + Calm Mind against anything in general

Calm Mind + Lumina Crash/Stored Power runs over what you want, and Substitute lets you abuse anything that even dares set up or swap out against Espartha

[jagged linden]

what do people usually use to find reccomended moveset/ev spread?

[crimson moat]

Smogon forums probably has a good page to start looking it over. They tend to have individual pages per pokemon

nothing de-facto, but centralizes around what is notable

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/espathra.3711128/

here's the one for Espartha. it's only got a bit of conversation but it's an OK starting point

[jagged linden]

I seee

[crimson moat]

Asking questions here helps too, but they have a buttload of info to get you started and look over those who think in the mindset of "What makes a pokemon useful competitively"

(Just be sure to avoid viability topics or banlist topics if you don't feel like filtering through lots of nonsense)

False Swipe Gaming, while way less contemporary, also has videos on how pokemon have historically played out well / not well and why

If you prefer easy to intake youtube vids to play while doing something else

[bleak pine]

Yeah, as much as I don't exactly like Smogon, they do make very concise articles on each mon and good ideas of what to try out

Not to say you can try something different, but these are often good ideas

[crimson moat]

Trying ideas you don't know are bad/good and making an educated conclusion on it is still helpful.
It's just that a lot of the groundwork for that is already established from articles and individual pokemon discussion

[bleak pine]

Yeah!

Usually they make mention of such things in their "other options" subcategory on a page

[crimson moat]

ie. in the TCG, people theoried that Samurott VStar could have been a decent deck on account that it could hit theoretical damage numbers for low energy
In practice, it was too many cards to pull that off reliably against anything with over 260 HP.

And in the meta, that was not viable, since the most prolific VStar decks ran pokemon with 280 HP.
Not to mention, Regis tested really well as a deck, and Samurott VStar had a really poor gameplan against them.

[bleak pine]

It's what I like about a lot of things related to Pokémon, there's so much theoreticals and options you can take for a variety of things

...Admittedly I feel like introducing us to VSTAR and immediately giving us Arceus VSTAR, a VSTAR with an ability that just invalidated most every other VSTAR and promo VSTAR introduced alongside it was a rather bleh move.

[crimson moat]

Powercreep from Fusion Strike to Silver Tempest mostly sucked

Mew ruined the meta and the meta afterward was meant to keep up with it

[bleak pine]

Nowadays it's just kinda alright, cause now Lugia VSTAR muscled in on an arguably even more oppressive ability

[crimson moat]

Arceus was moreso that most energy types had really poor acceleration

[bleak pine]

It really was more that it was usable in most every deck owing to it being a colorless mon with a simple energy requirement if you're gonna attack with it, plus the ability really is just useful for any situation

It's a literal toolbox if I ever saw one

[jagged linden]

rn I'm trying to optimize team making by grinding EVs for multiple poke at a time(now that I know how it works and all)

[crimson moat]

Outside of Arceus, at Astral Radiance:

Fire had Magma Basin, which was only viable to reach two energy in a turn for Entei. Arceus let Charizard be even playable
Water only had Melony and Frosmoth. Frosmoth was mostly inconsistent and Melony was best for decks that only needed 2 energy, like Palkia
Grass had Rillaboom, which was hella inconsistent, and Gardenia, which was a worse version of a card from SM era. Grass also did not have good attackers
Lightning has Flaafy. This already proved to be too inconsistent after Rayquaza VMax utterly failed to do anything with it. With Miraidon, it gets a lot more consistent.
Fighting literally just had Power Pickaxe, which was awful. Koraidon is coming out soon but that is way too slow.
Psychic's best was Shadow Rider VMax, which was seen as a completely inferior deck to Mew until Arceus gave it life.
Metal had Metal Saucer, but that also proved to be too inconsistent when Zacian V was slowly kicked out of the meta once mew took off.
Dark currently has Dark Patch and Galarian Moltres V. It is currently the type with the best energy support and even it was still way less consistent than Arceus.

And the big reason a lot of this fell off was because Mew, and only subsequently Arceus, were way too fast at setting up compared to everything else before it.

[bleak pine]

I'm really gonna miss the Rebel Clash Caterpie and Metapod

[crimson moat]

There's already gonna be a Vivilion line that does the same thing in SV

[bleak pine]

Just rapidly evolving into the Butterfree from Fusion Strike and nailing the opposing mon with three statuses is just

Chef's kiss

Oooh

[crimson moat]

The vivilion it leads to is worse than Butterfree, and Butterfree wasn't even that good

[bleak pine]

It was unique, though. Was cool finding good uses for these cards.

[crimson moat]

Statuses kinda suck nowadays unless you bank on the opponent not running any form of a switch card

[bleak pine]

Bleh.

Some cards did capitalize on them, but usually it was nothing more than additional damage done

[crimson moat]

Paralyze worked for a little while when Lugia players weren't playing switch cards.

But, Butterfree was inferior at doing that compared to Articuno

[jagged linden]

quick question: is there any functional difference between using Hyper Training or manually grinding for a perfect IV Poke.on

the way its displayed in game bugs me

hyper trained stats are displayed as "Hyper Trained!" vs "Best", do they mean the same thing stat wise?

[crimson moat]

Hyper Training is functionally equivalent

Particularly, it is now functionally equivalent because Hidden Power no longer exists.
The only difference is you cannot breed a hyper trained IV (only the pokemon's original IV before hyper training)

[jagged linden]

[bleak pine]

Hyper Training seems to just set a parameter in place that treats the IV as if it were 31

But it doesn't really make the stat 31.

It's up to you, but generally if you got money to blow rather than time to waste, Hyper Training is fine.

Only time it would be a detriment is if you want an IV to be a specific number; usually 0 for speed since some mons would benefit from the drop.

[crimson moat]

and for all the crap I give SV, changing the required level to hyper train down to 50 is a good QOL change

[bleak pine]

Admittedly with how easy it is to get XP candy in Sword/Shield is, having the level requirement be halved is very nice.

Seems those candies are harder to get in Scarlet/Violet.

[crimson moat]

I read up on reviews about the overall changes to grind in SV and despite that it is still just as user-friendly to level up quickly when desired

[bleak pine]

Yep, lots of opportunities to get training in no matter how you go about it

Just down a sandwich and watch like 20 or so Chansey materialize next to you

[crimson moat]

General takeaways were:

• It is about as quicker if not quicker to level up pokemon

• It is way more use friendly to hyper train

• It is the same speed, but way less user friendly to hatch eggs

• It is more user friendly to get learned moves onto pokemon

• It is about the same to get TMs onto pokemon

• All the other grinding you do pales in comparison to how long it takes to grind tera shards, and tera shards alone make grinding much worse than in SwSh

[bleak pine]

Alright, I love the games but yeah I will agree there: Finding Tera shards is painful to do

[lyric pollen]

Tera shards are such a pain

[crimson moat]

Like if they made Tera Shard grinding better, then the only bad point to grinding is the egg hatching being less intuitive

But I've heard nothing but misery over tera shards

[lyric pollen]

The delibird rajd event was so good

[bleak pine]

It doesn't help that Tera Raid battles can be hit or miss, depending on whenever you got a plan going into some of them or not

[lyric pollen]

I stocked up on shards then so I've been ok, but when they run out I'm im trouble

[bleak pine]

At the least, you typically need to do around, I guess, 17-18 battles against a specific type of Tera Raid battle of the right tier to get what you need.

[crimson moat]

Yeah postgame is still very lopsided. Tera Shards being such a pain to grind is part of the hook that keeps people doing the postgame

[bleak pine]

But that's the bare minimun, you might not get enough even then

Events usually make up for it, plus they give pretty great rewards regardless to keep up the momentum, and you still got good odds of other rewards for harder difficulties

[crimson moat]

Pokemon is making most grinding way shorter
But every time it introduces a new mechanic, the time you spend optimizing that new mechanic through grinding is adding all the time they cut down for everything else.

The fastest grinding has ever been requires SwSh's DLC. And the QOL that DLC introduced to make grinding better in that game only applied to a handful of pokemon, and is now obsolete.

[bleak pine]

It's just, you're gonna end up with so many candy, vitamins, Ability Capsules and other junk you can sell for quick money, but not much shards

Thankfully, the default tera type for a mon is enough to be alright since that gives a 2x bonus to damage for attacking moves, but it will be painful if the mon in question evolves and it's new typing doesn't match up with the Tera type it had

Scizor

[crimson moat]

The next mechanic they'll do for Gen 10, they will leave a timesink like Shards for the same sake of wasting time in repetitive postgame like Shards do now

And it will be for raid battles, because they won't be damned to think up another postgame element to do it with

[vagrant steppe]

@normal cave you can get to Jhoto early af

[normal cave]

What

[vagrant steppe]

Just take the train from Sabrina's city to Goldenrod

[normal cave]

[mighty storm]

https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1620935037200859139

Pokémon (@Pokemon)

Despite Espathra's appearance, it has a vicious temperament...

Twitter · Feb 2, 2023, 12:00 AM

[normal cave]

I've been plebbing kanto like a dumbass

[mighty storm]

Queen gets her tweet

[normal cave]

I could have been running around in the superior region this whole time instead of grinding a team of 3 shedinjas and 2 ninetales

[vagrant steppe]

Can't do the gyms yet tho

[normal cave]

Fuck it I'm going to-

[vagrant steppe]

I think you have to have the Kanto ones first

[normal cave]

Oh

I already have them all, I am on victory road

[vagrant steppe]

But there's a guy in Goldenrod who will trade you a sneasle for a lickitounge

[normal cave]

W E Z L

[vagrant steppe]

So relatively early sneasle

[normal cave]

How do I even fit sneasel on a stall team tho

[vagrant steppe]

True

[mighty storm]

baby

[normal cave]

Teleporter obtained

Umbreon/sheddy is no longer forced to eat cement waste a moveslot

[mighty storm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn4hoAWaMAElrTV?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn5Xu6VXkAAn0A8?format=jpg&name=medium

[lucid moth]

i want

no

i need

the gengar

[random stream]

Fat pikachu pog

[normal cave]

Weather seems to be eternal in this game

So I only need one weather setter

So now I have an empty slot again

Team is volc/ninetales, three different sheddy variants, and magnezone/foretress

I have a spinner, a weather changer, and a wincon (sitting on sheddy fusions and clicking moves/toxic/swapping). What am I missing?

Volc even doubles as a backup plan since it's got the standard quiver dance stuff but it sets its own sun

What is final slot even gonna be

[random stream]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1789439741-84mtad83x2gvfug20gp7rt4qy0krwsipw Azumarill strikes again

Top 35 now @lucid moth

[lucid moth]

nicenice

[normal cave]

Lesgoool

[pseudo goblet]

https://youtu.be/huC4Xhk8D-c

His video do indeed be interesting

[mighty storm]

apple 😮

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/appletun-love-happy-gif-25800694

This is me when people were talking in #1020372909044289598 lol

[placid junco]

https://twitter.com/solsticeice/status/1620972447020507136?s=61&t=GA7gulxlINxGpU2jJtymcQ

sol @ white choco btw (@solsticeice)

i think im gonna be sick

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Twitter · Feb 2, 2023, 2:28 AM

Giacomo is balding

[warm sky]

Oh wow tink is actually really good in uu huh

... ya know maybe I should try UU over OU

[silver vigil]

the retirement home going well

[warm sky]

Ttar just needs his s/o excadrill

I feel bad for weavile being RU tho

Mfw going from one of the best of OU to RU in a single gen

[silver vigil]

imagine being in the same tier as cryogonal

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/SmogonU/status/1620935033824448512?t=J6Sopd3lMpeZe4P2qkL84g&s=19 @normal cave they said fuck wezl

Smogon University (@SmogonU)

Following their latest council voting, the Godly Gift council has unanimously voted to not allow Swift Swim anymore in the format!

More information here:
https://t.co/YzdVW2Lfqn

Twitter · Feb 2, 2023, 12:00 AM

In some kind of alt format tho

[harsh path]

Godly Gift?

Also Sandy Shocks is the best looking Paradox

don’t @ me

[warm sky]

Godly Gift (GG) is an Other Metagame based on OU, but there's a twist—each team is allowed to have one Uber Pokémon, called a god, with the other five Pokémon being called receivers. Receivers inherit a base stat from the god depending on where on a team they're placed. For example, placing Rotom-W in slot 1 on a team with Yveltal would give Rotom-W a base HP stat of 126.

[harsh path]

I see

[golden lance]

So uhh

How viable is deoxys?

Just out of curiosity

[warm sky]

B rank

Though idk if that's for gen 9?

I am just checking the forums

Oh wait I am checking SM

💀

[outer eagle]

i imagine some hyper tanky legendaries to be great in GG

maybe Dialga?

[warm sky]

Well apparently the meta was swift swift miraidon

And most of the common cores uses either koraidon or miraidon

It seems

[outer eagle]

Miraidon stays winning

[warm sky]

Like Lokix + Koraidon, with you gifting Lokix ATK

imagine first impression on an actual attack stat

[outer eagle]

that does sound tempting

[warm sky]

Again tho, all I get it from glimpsing the forum.

[harsh path]

Espathra fell off

[warm sky]

Mfw Water Snorlax is top 20

[lyric pollen]

tusk is so good

in vgc as well

strong single target ground is a cheat code

[maiden flax]

https://twitter.com/avHYCcH3x80KCUE/status/1620761399634034689?t=R4c29yFxUOKSmSW91jYSoA&s=19

フキダシコットン『1日1枚‼』 (@avHYCcH3x80KCUE)

ナマコブシを真似しようとするドオー
#ポケモン #Pokémon #イラスト　#ポケモンSV

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Twitter · Feb 1, 2023, 12:30 PM

[maiden flax]

Ive said it once ill say it again, its the biggest physical wall that has ever existed

[pseudo goblet]

Wish I have the power having Pokémon Unite to add Clodsire, I’ll train using it day and night

Plus, there weren’t many Poison type in Unite iirc

Tho judging by gen 9 popularity, Unite adding Tinkaton is only a matter of time

[warm sky]

https://vxtwitter.com/k_arasum_i/status/1620780735304196096?t=5DrIz2iVBbsll5JR6XLD9A&s=19

@normal cave

[normal cave]

Bullying the sushi

Classic wezl

[vocal torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/clam-otter-funny-open-it-up-gif-13935174

same energy

[fading stratus]

Yeah I've been liking AV tusk

[jagged linden]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stunfisk/comments/10r4yd4/sv_ou_usage_stars_for_january_2023/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

is it "normal" for all 3 starters to be in OU?

[warm sky]

No

They often are super biased for the starters

But only like one

For marketing

See greninja

[random stream]

Hmm it's pretty rare

in this case all three SV starters are v v solid in compettiive

Meow is a solid offensive pivot spiker and can use either overgrow flower tricks or protean u-turns well, also rare access to knock off
Quaqua has a great defensive typing and can be a snowbally wincon thanks to moxie, bulk up/sd, aqua step
Skeledirge makes use of boots to offset the sr weakness, great defensive typing and bulk, slack off, unaware, can spread status or be a win condition with torch song

Dex cut probably helps too

[jagged linden]

yeah I'm planning on running Meow on my team as a setup lead

Flower Trick is bonkers with guaranteed crit + stab + overgrowth + tera grass(if it ever comes to a point where I need to tera it)

it feels like a jack of all trades mon

which fits into the magician stichk pretty well

[flat sedge]

well godly gift is obviosuly suffering rn

since we dont have many "real" legendaries

just mirai/korai

though stuff like bundle god is still pretty good

mostly cuz you outspeed and thus anti meta the mirai/korai teams

[jagged linden]

do the EV training bracers negatively impact certain stats?

or is the description of them only refering to stats in battle

[normal cave]

They lower the speed while held. Nothing permanent.

[jagged linden]

I seee

bf is telling me the opposite and I wanted to double check(I trust him but I also don't have a frame of reference)

[normal cave]

https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Power_Anklet

For refference

You gain speed EVs while holding this, but while it is being held, your current speed is halved

When removed, both effects stop, like with any held item

You keep the speed EVs gained, ofc, but not the boost to speed EVs gained. I can't think of any held item with permanent negative effects.

[jagged linden]

thankies ^^

[fading stratus]

Literally toxic orb
Your stuff is still poisoned even if you remove the orb

[obsidian juniper]

https://twitter.com/RhafToze/status/1620957716742303744?s=20&t=LN43lDHKJKwAN8vDHDCDUA

TO ZE (@RhafToze)

Kamen Rider Agris
Contract monster Aggron
Laivisor with Aron deck

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Twitter · Feb 2, 2023, 1:30 AM

[normal cave]

You call it a negative effect. I call it a damage boost I can stack with a life orb/choice band.

[golden lance]

@pseudo goblet

[normal cave]

Ok, decided that the last mon on my stall team will be blissey/ditto as an answer to setup mons if I need one

[pseudo goblet]

Ye I saw on my own twitter as well, looks good af

[mighty storm]

is there a lokix version

[obsidian juniper]

why would you ping me for this, how would i know?

[mighty storm]

idk maybe you saw one

[obsidian juniper]

if i did i wouldve posted it, no?

[mighty storm]

fair

[jagged linden]

https://youtu.be/Hs2i81noxnw

god this slaps so hard in game

[pseudo goblet]

https://twitter.com/brettpunkart/status/1594189655347527680?s=46&t=4uv7WIA1pjpihMh8bjcadQ

Brett Wants to Make Art For You (@BrettpunkArt)

Cyclizar in Pokemon Scarlet and Violet has to be based off of Kamen Rider Black's Battle Hopper, yeah? Also, there's a new grasshopper Pokemon, Nymble, whose evolution, Lokix, is Kamen Rider inspired!

Twitter · Nov 20, 2022, 4:43 AM

[bleak pine]

Admittedly reaching a bit with Cyclizar, eh?

[mighty storm]

DLC is going to be related to Geeta

for sure

[sand forge]

A disappointment?

[bleak pine]

rude

But I'd be welcoming of it if it's related to her

[mighty storm]

India inspired third legendary

[warm sky]

... no

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/RhafToze/status/1603954905240047617?t=OIs_Gp-7vgCTjAPFtjikhg&s=1

TO ZE (@RhafToze)

Pokerider Lokix

Comms for @Vcom7418

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Twitter · Dec 17, 2022, 3:27 AM

[sand forge]

She unironically has Gogoat on her team

[bleak pine]

Gogoat good

[sand forge]

Gogoat extremely mediocre

[bleak pine]

Ok but

Goat

With grass for fur

Just nice goat

[sand forge]

Pokémon = animal + 1 fantastical element

Murkrow = crow + witch stylings

[bleak pine]

https://tenor.com/view/gogoat-pokemon-grass-goat-bharal-gif-26484000

Lookit 'im go

[sand forge]

Bad

Arboliva superior

[placid junco]

It’s funny that until SV Skiddoo/gogoat was one of the most remote Pokémon in the entire series

Only obtainable on a single route in the entire franchise

Yeah idk why Geeta didn’t use arbolivia

[sand forge]

All her pokes are just kinda crappy

[placid junco]

It’s both native to the region and a good supporter for her questionable choice in ace

[sand forge]

Avalugg, Veluza

Not even Sharpness Veluza

[placid junco]

Legit kingambit being sent out 5th is more of a challenge than her ace

And afaik she basically never does so

In my experience kinggambit always comes out 2nd or 3rd

[sand forge]

Espathra, Kingambit, and Glimmora are good though

They can stay

Though idk what water type she can have to replace Veluza

[placid junco]

Just go back in time and give Veluza like an extra 30 base speed

[mighty storm]

That looks freaking amazing

[warm sky]

I mean it's also a bike

which reminds me, I actually had a fake regional variant for gogoat for my dutch based region.

A Fairy/Dark based on the Bokkenrijders

Basically, a dutch legend of demons or ghosts riding on flying demonic goats

Gogoat worked perfectly to translate that since it's already a goat bike

combine it with the aspect of the ghost rider or demon biker and bam

[mighty storm]

https://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/f/f2/Pokedex_Image_Glimmora_SV.png/356px-Pokedex_Image_Glimmora_SV.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn-Vt-PWYAcsZd-?format=jpg&name=medium

[spice rivet]

Behold my clustercrap of a team

Spreads for those wondering

[mighty storm]

Something about ||thousand|| is a hint for the dlc

[bleak pine]

Ayyy Scizor

[spice rivet]

Scizor is so clutch I stg

[bleak pine]

It's just good bug

[spice rivet]

And Tera Water is chefs kiss

[mighty storm]

whatever the third legendary is, it looks cute

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnviNzdacAM-UdE?format=jpg&name=large

[jagged linden]

is DLC 100% confirmed?

last time I checked a few weeks ago all I could find was speculation and nothing definitive

[mighty storm]

according to riddler ||yes||

especially considering we have 3 mons in the games right now that dont have data but have pictures

https://primagames.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Paradox-Suicune-Featured.jpg

[placid junco]

On the other hand it’d be hilarious of these are this gens equivalent of the tapu totem in XY

[vagrant steppe]

And the zygarde moves

And eternal flower Floette

And spiky eared pichu

And the GS ball

[placid junco]

Except they never paid off the GS ball

[vagrant steppe]

There's always been stuff in the code of games since Gold and Silver that wasn't actually used

True

Although eternal flower Floette was also never officially distributed

[mighty storm]

VGC leaked their signatures

[vagrant steppe]

They're probably gonna be dlc, but also the zygarde moves were leaked in XY

[vagrant steppe]

There's also the abilities for megas in the code of SwSh and this game

[mighty storm]

Ultimate psychic type ?

[vagrant steppe]

Game freak is really bad at taking things out of the code that aren't actually used

[mighty storm]

they were scrubbed out in the actual code of the game (the two moves)

along with having pikachu placeholders for each ID where they would've been

[normal cave]

Hey, I heard those exact quotes in a video

I did like that video, is nice

[obsidian juniper]

Sounds like Tb Skyen

[normal cave]

Yes

He did a short on Murkrow

[obsidian juniper]

Figures, since hes going through all of em

[normal cave]

I don't always like his shorts, but some are cozy

I forgot what a pain the victory road puzzles are

Well, E4 time

Once I find my earphones

[jagged linden]

I wonder if the paradox mons will ever get evos/pre evos

like imagine what Flutter Mane looks like if it evolves into Misdrevious

[normal cave]

Flutter mane is already bonkers

Damn, E4 has answers to Shedinja

Also, I thought rocky helmet protects from hail

Update: E4 had only 1 answer to Shedinja fusions, and it was the very first pokemon in all the E4

[vagrant steppe]

Nice mono bug team

[normal cave]

Thanks. Blissey/ditto is my fave bug

Though it could easily be replaced

The only mon on the team that didn't do anything except tank a bit while I used revives on sheddies

[bleak pine]

Bout to do a silly edit of a pic

Look forward to it

[normal cave]

I FOUND SMEARGLE

Now I can make an even more dumb normal/ghost shedinja

[placid junco]

I should really try the dreyano version of HGSS sometime

[normal cave]

Odoing jhotto

The gym puzzles are awful

One is tedious yet easy and one is just really hard

But it might be hard because my audio bugged out so I can't hear audio cues

Also it's bugged because the gym mechanic continues even after you leave it

[normal cave]

Ok, turns out it was just hard because my audio didn't work. Restarted it with audio and it was easy. Still bugged tho.

The actual battle, however, was the hardest thing I've faced in this game

Well, one of

[tacit sphinx]

I am vaguely angry

SmallAnt managed to find two secret bazaars in a row

in Explorers of Sky

How the fuck

https://youtu.be/qsjk3Le2I3Y

[pseudo goblet]

https://twitter.com/arvenhlka/status/1621208123187904514?s=46&t=cOgE5D1ZXwuFVaG33zrYeg

ꕤ࿐࿔ ༘ (@ARVENHlKA)

I AM THE FLAME THAT BURNS BRIGHTEST

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Twitter · Feb 2, 2023, 6:05 PM

Just gonna, throwing some small pebbles at him to see if the typing travels with the suit

[lyric pollen]

some serious subtext in there

[vocal torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes-gif-19334673

[random stream]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1790855428-4kv5obv98swdgmh3w38tiyc7kzsmfmkpw Azumarill farmed @snow oasis @lucid moth

[warm sky]

Top 25 soon

[lucid moth]

[pseudo goblet]

https://twitter.com/lewchube/status/1621154722978611200?s=46&t=_KgIcYvMbvXxA-8Sepw2pg

Lewtwo (@Lewchube)

https://t.co/sKVJXg1ow2

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Twitter · Feb 2, 2023, 2:33 PM

[latent sleet]

CONQUEST BABY

[normal cave]

Red any day

Sorry BW2, Conquest is my favorite pokemon game

[crimson moat]

I would be torn between the two

If it were any other Pokémon games on the blue besides those and emerald, I’d pick conquest

Dude that thread has people discovering Pokémon XD exists

[outer eagle]

i have never played a side pokemon game myself

only seen others do

[crimson moat]

As in they knew and adored colosseum and didn’t know XD was a thing

[pseudo goblet]

https://twitter.com/serebiinet/status/1621373774732861440?s=46&t=7GZn1LTN7GAY1Y_aZdzp4Q

Serebii.net (@SerebiiNet)

Serebii Update: The next Pokémon TCG set has been announced for Japan. This set is Triplet Beat and focuses around the starters and other Pokémon from Paldea. It releases on March 10th 2023.

Details being added @ https://t.co/gDbXkHSvkT

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Twitter · Feb 3, 2023, 5:03 AM

[crimson moat]

Yes, it’s in the #1020932971106140221

[pseudo goblet]

Ah

[pseudo goblet]

https://twitter.com/okihasa/status/1621433372836007937?s=46&t=4M3woCExPDnr9LgmivaoCg

おきは🧭okIha (@okihasA)

メタモンへんしんマスコット作りました🔅

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Twitter · Feb 3, 2023, 9:00 AM

Galarian Stunfisk seems odd, but I need that Ditto Swinub

[sand forge]

Can I get an uhh, bug type future sight

Call it Butterfly Effect

[placid junco]

For that kind of name it should always land a super effective hit

[flat sedge]

@random stream

[placid junco]

new trainer card tool came out

[normal cave]

The ai is using a fucking sheddy fusion

That's not fair that's my schtick

It's ok I got it to use struggle with my own sheddy fusions

[placid junco]

tbh a wonder guard mon that doesn'y have any weaknesses but isn't very strong so it just dies to weather/struggle could be neat

don't give it any hazards, don't give it toxic or any form of DoT

[normal cave]

Unkillable wall

Give it boots or goggles and you have a powerful buildaround mon

[placid junco]

the idea is that it only learns a bunch of low PP moves so it is forced to struggle

[bleak pine]

Ah, sick, I might make my trainer card

[normal cave]

But cop, you can swap it around

[sand forge]

Eclipsans undertale?

[placid junco]

no

[sand forge]

yes

[placid junco]

[random stream]

Whoa congrats

[void herald]

the next episode of the anime is about ||the squirtle squad||

[spice rivet]

Team changed a decent amount. Had some 5head techs thrown in too. Forgot to give Arcanine Will o Wisp, but Roar is also hella good.

[bleak pine]

Ayyyy nice goin' Yoz

[random stream]

streak got broken by stall

still chilling at top 40 though, got a game back

[bleak pine]

Alright, here's mine!

Really wanna see if we can compile each person's cards, just for fun

[harsh path]

What did you mix with Ursaring for Benkei?