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placid junco
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Or it could just be y’know
A resemblance
And not actually a fusion

mighty storm
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suicune, entei, and raikou didnt exist when it was written

placid junco
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Some of my friends are suggesting only the paradox legendaries might be imaginary

But even that feels non commital lmao

mighty storm
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Also I wonder, both the dlc paradoxes are members of quartets OgreThink

placid junco
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Nah the beast is just a trio

mighty storm
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technically

placid junco
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Yeah but I wouldn’t consider it a part of them
Rather ruling over them

pseudo goblet
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Ho oh are their kinda-mother

sand forge
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it's about 80% chaff to 20% good design imo

mighty storm
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ho-oh literally was like "You 3 in the fire, you legendaries now."

placid junco
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Disagree on the ratios but I agree some are not great

mighty storm
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Then there is Keldeo, to the other musketeers who was added later in an event.

pseudo goblet
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Enamorus

long stone
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cuz the future ones succs. i want real future mons that are not just lazy machines.

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so i just hope those are fake.

sand forge
mighty storm
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Enamorous the turtle snek frend

long stone
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Future Froms have so much potential yet GF was like (everything is a robo) that' not even have evo works...

sand forge
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The bad past designs are Shocks and Bonnet

pseudo goblet
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Do you guys have your own ideas of F paradox pokemon, that’s not robot OgreThink

sand forge
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Koraidon is a little too silly for my taste, but it's a solid design

sand forge
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Flutter & Scream are meh

pseudo goblet
sand forge
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Roaring, Great Tusk, and Slither Wing are all good designs

sand forge
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Just a big 1950s style brain

pseudo goblet
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Look at it fluff

mighty storm
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we got peak past paradox form already

sand forge
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Iron Bundle is the best past form

pseudo goblet
placid junco
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Iron bundle is peak future form design yeah

sand forge
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no, he's from the past

pseudo goblet
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I like Iron bundle+valiant+Hands design wise

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Maybe I watched too many Tokusatsu, Iron Thorns hasn’t really spark in me yet

sand forge
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A leading one suggests it is the product of a long-gone civilization—a notion supported by ancient writings that describe the design and usage of machines resembling Iron Bundle.

long stone
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Future Volcarona (that is not a robo) should be called Smoking Swarm. due to the lack of enough oxygen, they can't grow in size or burn much, so they just swarm together and producing alot of smoke.

pseudo goblet
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This, THIS ^

I like this fluff

long stone
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could give em an ability that makes fire moves deal 80% less damage or something.

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Bug/Poison maybe ?

pseudo goblet
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Okay that’s actually better than the fire flying I was thinking, maybe they re just flies that produce smokes, not a good idea I think

long stone
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🤷

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Future Snorlax just becomes a whale thingy

jagged linden
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ngl I really like how the past/future pokemon have more vague names like "Roaring Moon" or "Iron Hands"

pseudo goblet
jagged linden
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god I remember the final boss fight was rough cause of Roaring Moon

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I had to spam potions but Mudsdale came in clutch

long stone
normal cave
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Roaring moon is beautiful tho

placid junco
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Roaring moon was a menace in that final fight

jagged linden
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(since it didn't have any special moves just physical)

placid junco
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I only won because of shift gear -> gunk shot

pseudo goblet
jagged linden
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I only won cause I got lucky

jagged linden
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night slash otk'd my Mudsdale once or twice because of a crit

placid junco
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I only won becaude gunk shot didn’t miss

long stone
placid junco
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It has retractable roots

normal cave
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It is a sponge

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Reject complexity, return to sponge

long stone
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Spongelax ....

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nice convergent evo idea...

sand forge
long stone
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fuck the future ones.

mighty storm
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I wonder what type the third legendary is

long stone
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fucking iron everything. next thing you know, its Iron Ass

normal cave
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Grass/fairy

long stone
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Future Cherubi... its just the shriveled one. that's all that can gow.

placid junco
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In the future, everything is chrome

long stone
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bad meme.

pseudo goblet
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Just to shock everybody, the stores I’ve visit while buying Scarlet had their Violet sold out faster than Scarlet, I know we can get the other version paradoxes easily

But the message of people here like future ones more than the past ones, scares me sweateragent

placid junco
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I’ve already been told I have bad opinions regarding Pokémon today by my friends lmao

I am fine with making bad jokes

pseudo goblet
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Violet stuff was more expensive too, BTW cheems

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They re the same games, i don’t see the reason why they had to made it 20 rm more expensive than Scarlet copium

placid junco
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Third legendary will reside in the Kalodea ruins, a gateway between the kalos and Paldea regions

pseudo goblet
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Btw, I haven’t heard anyone saying if Iron hydreigon and iron Thorns are good or not, how strong are they?

placid junco
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Jugulis has to compete with mandibuzz in nat dex format

normal cave
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Mandibuzz

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Counterpart to best birb

pseudo goblet
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unfezant

sand forge
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Future Paradox could've given us something like Acid Rain

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Reduce the defense of all Pokemon on the field except Poison types

normal cave
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That would be kinda sick

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But at the same time, this is kinda abusable by anything, no?

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Set acid rain, get out a fast, hard hitting mon, bonk them all to death

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...

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I just described rain and setup sweepers

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And a bunch of other strategies already in the game

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Nvm ignore me chat

pseudo goblet
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I really hope they will someday release a regional form Water Rock type Psyduck or Golduck, since we now have THREE blue duck Pokémon, Ducklett and now Quaxly final evo

Ducklett Flying > Quaquaval Fighting
Quaquaval Fighting > Rock
Rock > Ducklett Flying

pseudo goblet
normal cave
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It's all good

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"ignore me" means I said something stupid, so disregard it

sand forge
snow oasis
normal cave
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I will never not use bite on a psyduck and be surprised when it isn't super effective

placid junco
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I do love how the Earl of Sandwich is now explicitly canon to Pokémon

snow oasis
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So are Russia and South America tbf

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and Indian elephants

normal cave
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Hey, wait

sand forge
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Not only that, but Gastly eats Indian Elephants

normal cave
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India was not colonized by the British in this world

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Because Galar

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They are not British, they are Galarian

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Was the Galarian Empire a thing?

snow oasis
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I mean most of this is from early lore tbf, when the idea of a “world of Pokémon” wasn’t really set in stone yet

normal cave
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I see

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Gonna have to wait for India region then

snow oasis
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Gen XXXVII

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I wonder what Gen 10 will be

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Australia perhaps

sharp kernel
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Australia needs to have at least 10 spider Pokémon

snow oasis
sharp kernel
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And at least 2 spider legendaries

snow oasis
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@bleak pine @vocal torrent @sharp vale @warm sky

bleak pine
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Hell yeah

normal cave
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The mascot legendaries are two giant spiders, one venomous, and the other also venomous but with different colors

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And the great climax is that they use their signature move which is just fucking biting someone

sharp vale
vocal torrent
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Woop!

mighty storm
normal cave
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Yes

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Both are Poison/Poison type

mighty storm
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Maybe the trapdoor one will have some tricks up its sleeve

normal cave
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(this region introduced pokemon with two identical types)

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(but only for poison types)

mighty storm
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double stab for poison/poison types

normal cave
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Yes

mighty storm
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but 4x weak to psychic monkaTOAD

normal cave
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When you try to catch the cute spider pokemon but it instantly dies to mud slap

bleak pine
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Is being a legendary not important anymore besides competitive?

normal cave
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Breeding and shiny hunting

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Story

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I don't understand your take. What has changed with legendary pokemon?

jagged linden
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isn't focusing on legendaries the biggest noob mistake in comp

normal cave
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Yup

bleak pine
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It's just idk

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Being legendary hasn't meant much in a while

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It's just a way to say "hey check this guy out he is more important"

normal cave
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If you are playing comp, legendary status is irrelevant for the most part. Otherwise, they get cool story and such.

normal cave
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Hell, the gen 9 box legendaries are MORE than that

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You get to ride them, and they are actual characters in the game

jagged linden
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honestly Scarlet/Violets character writing is so much better across the board

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I really liked how Team Star was presented and handled

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I remember Arven also gave off "oh no he's actually evil vibes" because of the way they faded to black when he brought out Mastroiff and you learn pretty quickly he's actually a good person with family issues

sand forge
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We've had Legendaries that can breed, Legendaries that can evolve

normal cave
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My point is, legendaries are no different than they were before.

sand forge
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Imagine being Entei and Raikou, not even box legendaries

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NERDS

normal cave
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In gen 1 they were irrelevant

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Outside of HUOGH MEWTWO SO STRONG

sand forge
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They had a certain level of mystique to them

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That came from lo-internet

normal cave
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True

sand forge
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Just gotta get to that truck bro

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I swear

normal cave
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Needing to learn braile to get the damn regis

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Or at least decode it manually

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But that's because of no answers on the internet

bleak pine
normal cave
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Not because the regis were special

bleak pine
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The whole "Braile puzzle hard" point of view should be "they really wanted to sell manuals"

normal cave
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The regis sucked, I just didn't know because I had no-one to ask

bleak pine
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At the same time they blew their load on gen 4

normal cave
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And because I was too young to reason legendary =\ useful

bleak pine
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"WE'RE GONNA MAKE GOD AND THE TIEM AND SPACE GODS AND THE GODS OF FEELINGS AND THE GODS OF SLEEP AND THE GODS OF"

golden lance
sand forge
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Who is the god of feelings

normal cave
bleak pine
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Azelf Uxie Mesprit

sand forge
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Cresellia?

normal cave
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Ok and gen 3 had the creators of land and sea

bleak pine
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Yeah they were already hyping it up

sand forge
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Not the creator of air though

bleak pine
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And then they kept going

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UNTIL GEN 8

normal cave
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What is your point

bleak pine
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Where the cover legends were weaker sauce than Gen 5's in terms of stuff they do

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Dogs with swords

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In the same position as

sand forge
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Oh you mean story-wise

bleak pine
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THE GOD OF TIME

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THE GOD OF SPACE

normal cave
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Story wise

bleak pine
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The god of fucking Death

normal cave
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Because gameplay wise sword dog is one of, if not THE strongest mons

bleak pine
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Yeah but concept wise Doggo weak

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Eternatus too

sand forge
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The worst gen 8 legendaries are honestly the Galarian Moltres/Articuno/Zapdos

bleak pine
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Literally the gen 7 plotpoint

normal cave
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Eternatus... the world ender?

sand forge
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Eternatus is just an ultra beast tbh

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However I will accept a Galarian Lugia

bleak pine
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Eternatus the excuse to justify the mechanic

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Original concept

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Didn't do this with Necrozma before totally

bleak pine
normal cave
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So your complaint is that the legendaries are not gods

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Were the legendaries of gen 5 gods?

bleak pine
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Nope but that gets a pass considering what gen 4 had

sand forge
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The non-box legendaries of Gen V kinda stinky tbh

bleak pine
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We did need a small break by gen 6

normal cave
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Ah

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I see

sand forge
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Gen 6 legendaries stinky

normal cave
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So they don't fit into your theory, but you want to let that slide

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Whatevs man

bleak pine
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It's more so idk

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Miraidon and Koraidon are just

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Bikes

normal cave
bleak pine
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Like what

sand forge
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Koraidon's bikeness is the worst part of its design tbh

normal cave
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It is cute

sand forge
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Remove the dumb wheels

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and it will be cuter

normal cave
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It's a cool and cute lizard dragon

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Agreed

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The wheels are comical

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Miraidon pulls off bike because robot transformer dragon

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But why not just ride a giant lizard?

bleak pine
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I am not a furry

normal cave
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Then ride a robot

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If riding isn't your thing, vehicles and walking are options

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Hell, every time you use surf, you ride a pokemon's back

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Gen 6 and 7 make you ride rental mons

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But bycicle lizard is too much for you because... furry?

jagged linden
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it makes sense given what it actually is but its still dumb

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design would be 100x better without the wheel in the chest

normal cave
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Hell yeah

sand forge
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Just have Koraidon be its "Wild & primal" form

normal cave
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Majestic komodo dragon shaped like a friend

sand forge
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And have Cyclizar be the dumb bike lizard

jagged linden
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ngl I kinda just assumed it was a legendary pokemon

sand forge
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And then Miraidon is it post-becoming a bike

jagged linden
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it genuinly shocked me when the professor told me it was a past version of Cyclizar

sand forge
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The Paradoxes may as well be Legendary tbh

jagged linden
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(birb brain moment ofc)

jagged linden
bleak pine
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Did you know

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The official Pokemon JP Tiktok has a post with the nword in it

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And one with Fuck

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Lots of fuck

mighty storm
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cap ^

mighty storm
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wait, no cap monkaTOAD

sharp kernel
lyric pollen
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all those top 8 teams seem pretty cool

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jugulus/bundle/blaze-tauros/sandy shocks/bax looks fun

sharp kernel
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Fire tauros is really nuts into paradox pokemon as they stated

lyric pollen
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I see a scizor peepoDetective thats my pick for a sleeper great mon this format

sharp kernel
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You come in, you intimidate physical attackers, you resist iron bundle, you take neutral from flutter mane

lyric pollen
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well, half of iron bundle

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paradox mon being intimidate-able and (likely) popular is good for the tauros' for sure

young river
jagged linden
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I fucking love this sign

golden lance
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Oh wow

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It actually looks decent when not in 3fps

pseudo goblet
jagged linden
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ngl my biggest issue with the game is the pacing

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like, the mandatory tutorial stuff takes like 30 mins, you get to the school and do all that stuff, and then you are only there for like 5 mins

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and then you have almost no reason to return to the school(even if the game I think expects you too?)

mighty storm
tacit sphinx
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did y'all hear pikachu said fuck

golden lance
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Raz

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Mind scrolling up for a bit?

pseudo goblet
snow oasis
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Are there any Poison-type Sap Sipper mons?

lyric pollen
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technically all of them right

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with tera

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naturally though no

pseudo goblet
void herald
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"no officer, i am just a very large bulbasaur"

pseudo goblet
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Totally not hiding any ‘stun spore’ nope smug

outer eagle
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That Venusaur looks like it’s about to pull me over and sell me some crack

bleak pine
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How am I gonna convince someone that Mabostiff is a good boyo if that’s someone’s first look?

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Well, unless there will be some kind of promo card, but…

pseudo goblet
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Tell em it’s a sheep in wolf skin I guess

bleak pine
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Righto

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That being said, this is how you establish that some mons are just not to be messed with

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You can’t get the same kind of feel for other mons that are frightening, like Mightyena or Houndoom

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…Meanwhile, Staravia exists and still has Intimidate

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What

pseudo goblet
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Pretty sure it’s as big as our hawks, now Shinx with Intimidate tho ConcernedFroge

bleak pine
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Staravia is about as big as say, Tranquill or Pidgeotto. Staraptor is pretty imposing though

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Growlithe is one fella too, but if it’s barking is loud and angry enough

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Though, Hitmontop is up there with Staravia.

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Maybe it just spins super fast and shows off to look scary?

sand forge
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
snow oasis
sand forge
pseudo goblet
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Oh lmao

tacit sphinx
normal cave
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It's a football. I chiseled it.

pseudo goblet
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Soo~, I’m guessing Arceus did the whole Legend plot just so it can be with Dawn forever and ever till the timeloop was somehow broken

sharp kernel
bleak pine
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Oh hey! Garchomp in S rank! HOW UNEXPECTED.

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,,,Super funny how Murkrow ended up taking it for him though, as is Meowscarada

sharp kernel
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If it makes you feel better

bleak pine
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It's really more the mon is overrated for me, personally.

sharp kernel
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Iron bundle kinda pushes garchomp out

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But murkrow is very overrated

bleak pine
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Meh, not really. It's just from what I seen it just works very well in VGC due to it's utility moves and ability

sharp kernel
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Wel it the first tournament of series 2 is anything to go by, dozo Tatsugiri is basically obsolete, so part of what made murkrow solid is gone

snow oasis
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Chomp in singles has basically become a suicide hazards lead which is hilarious to me

sleek sky
lucid moth
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it can run a suicide hazards lead set bc it threatens out every other suicide hazards setter

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chomp outspeeds them too

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and can be built to be a bulky disruptive pivot for physical attackers

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a mixed sweeper

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or an sd sweeper

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chomp can also run band or scarf well

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this is why it is good still and hasnt really fallen off since reintroduced into ou

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are there better mons? yea

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but chomp is a very versatile mon and can do multiple roles per team well

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of current ou i like 2 sets

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bulky lead with eq + d tail + rocks + spikes 252 hp 176 def 80 spe impish

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speed is adjustable and can run a timid nature as well to truly speed up

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but this set can take on and beat a lot of physical set up sweepers in the tier

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as well as leading the team with hazards

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i like it if my team can do wish passing

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my other set is eq + spikes + sd + tera blast tera ghost 252 atk 252 spe 4 spdef jolly chomp with scarf or life orb

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hazard setter + late-game sweeper

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if scarf i will do crunch/iron head/draco meteor over sd

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tera ghost makes chomp semi-budget Dragapult but chomp has a real attack stat without a dd or a cb and a wider pool of physical moves like eq stone edge and such

lusty tiger
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I believe in Garchomp supremacy

pseudo goblet
sleek sky
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...Be like Goomy?

warm sky
bleak pine
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Moth man

mighty storm
outer eagle
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They’re too low tiered to be part of the club PepePoint

warm sky
vocal torrent
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Golisopod with more edge owo

random stream
outer eagle
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Highest i ever got on Smogon OU ladder was barely 1800 back in SM

snow oasis
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@random stream

maiden flax
golden lance
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Ngl

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Kinda want to do a nuzlocke

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Never done one before

placid junco
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I’m either gonna do one for my next sun playthrough or a type locked challenge

jagged linden
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my bf tried to do a scarlet/violet nuzlocke with slightly modified rules to account for the differences in catching/encountering pokemon(tldr catch first 5 you see, pick 1 at random to keep)

normal cave
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Gl to him

snow oasis
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Nuzlockes can be pretty fun during the moments when things are happening

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I advise you to play on an emulator tho

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I play on cartridge and the points where I have to grind are hellish

snow oasis
pseudo goblet
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Wandered far from where I was suppose to be, and I found friend named Flamigo

last musk
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My chien pao has no weaknesses (I do not have Nintendo online)

pseudo goblet
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Wtf??? Whose home is this?? The snail I’m guessing??

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The game just ‘introduce’ pokecenter to me, and I just suddenly found a legendary’s house 😂

placid junco
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House is probably a nicer term than what it deserves

bleak pine
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Disturb not the ancient tablets

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And yeah, Home is a very, very nicer term than what is going on

pseudo goblet
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Is it a seal?

last musk
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Iirc it's just collapsed rubble in there right?

bleak pine
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||There’s barely any friggin room in there for the captive for one||

placid junco
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It’s a prison yeah

pseudo goblet
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Ah

placid junco
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It’s probably sealed in its tablet form inside

pseudo goblet
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Ooh protect tm, fantastic

bleak pine
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Finding that thing while doing some exploring before signing on at Naranja Academy was wild

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It really set the mood to keep exploring, not just for new friends to catch but also for any other secrets

bleak pine
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Actually would make sense if they reverted to those objects when inert

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I dunno if they actually do it or not. Guessing we’ll need to wait and see

pseudo goblet
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Oh and I found a wild Great Wild before school, and pointing it out in case if it’s impressive

golden lance
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I will now once again ask for romhack recommendations

bleak pine
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I don’t play much romhacks, so I can’t exactly make a good recommendation

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…I mean, Radical Red notwithstanding, but I think you already tried that

pseudo goblet
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Wait we can buy ice cream now??

bleak pine
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Yep

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Buying food for yourself can give small bonuses when you’re out and about

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Like, finding certain mons, getting bonuses in raid battles and a few others

pseudo goblet
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Mmm… milk base ice cream… makes me wanna drink water later… which totally negate the purpose of ice cream…

bleak pine
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I mean, that is what Ice cream is

pseudo goblet
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I usually pick popsicle lol

bleak pine
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Ahh

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There’s a few other stuff you can nab for a meal, such as some pretzels, churros, and a few restaurants with a few stuff to pick from

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And of course, sandwiches

pseudo goblet
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Ralts baby

bleak pine
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Woo

pseudo goblet
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Dang, thought I found some wild surskit I can catch, turns out they re just decoratives

bleak pine
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Yeah, mons in towns can’t be battled

pseudo goblet
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Eclair got to swim a bit tho

bleak pine
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Not to worry since Surskit are pretty common in ponds in a few places

pseudo goblet
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Sunkern?? Sure I guess

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I assume this game still have shiny charm and require full dex, worth the waste of a pokeball

bleak pine
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Always a good idea in any game to make a capture when you meet for the first time!

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Never know when you want to make a new friend join up on a team for awhile

pseudo goblet
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Found Bonsly and I think Grafaiai prevo

pseudo goblet
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Nemona Tera her Pawmi for nothing, Eclair wins KEKW

maiden flax
pseudo goblet
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Doesn’t everyone? lol

sharp kernel
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It’s either eclair or shit stain, no in between

maiden flax
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some named it pooper

pseudo goblet
maiden flax
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cute

placid junco
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I named my Wooper Tucker

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after Tucker of Tucker & Dale vs evil fame

warm sky
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I'm ||Vinesauce||

sharp vale
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im severed head

pseudo goblet
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Speaking of head

warm sky
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🤨

normal cave
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I'm Bobobobo

golden lance
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I'm Prof. Reality

swift jasper
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Meat Grinder

vagrant steppe
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Video Games

lucid moth
golden lance
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The bigger question is

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Will it have battle bond?

snow oasis
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ok so

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hear me out

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Boomburst Porygon-Z

latent sleet
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is the cinderace event over

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been going for about an hour and none are showing up

flat fractal
sharp kernel
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Nice lando-T and ferrothorn, I think I’ll lead chien pao and chi yu in response

pseudo goblet
void herald
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you're telling me a chicken fried this rice?

pseudo goblet
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A chicken that can fry itself, yes nyaruhodo

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Funny thing is that Shiny Torchic colors fits into that art even better too lol

bleak pine
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Seems like the poison type would very much cover up most kinds of vulnerabilities it has.

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Assuming it has an Ice-type move, which I don't doubt it will.

lucid moth
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its not an answer to azu?

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azu and gren have different roles

pseudo goblet
bleak pine
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Was joking, really, but this is from a raiding standpoint

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The usual counters to a poison-type are easily exploitable by Greninja's moveset, so finding a good mon to take this on will be interesting. Assuming this will have Tera Blast when battled and not Gunk Shot.

pseudo goblet
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Btw, how much sooner will I be able to find Nacli and Nymble, last night I just enter school for the first time

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Oh and Tinkaton’s baby

kind vortex
pseudo goblet
random stream
sand forge
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Give Slowpoke shed tail

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So we can all eat them for free

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If it uses it as Slowbro it devolves back into Slowpoke

pseudo goblet
#

@waxen moat ^

bleak pine
#

Ah sweet, Toxicroak

#

Can’t wait to train one

pseudo goblet
obsidian juniper
jagged linden
obsidian juniper
#

endeavor toxi orb tatsu can die inside dodonzo

placid junco
#

Then you send out flamigo to copy bozo’s stat boost

obsidian juniper
#

and then murkcrow gets sent out

placid junco
#

And you cry

#

So yeah uh tldr: it is a comp joke

jagged linden
warm sky
vagrant steppe
#

Heatran is a stall mon

sharp kernel
#

gholdengo being classified as a stall mon sure is crazy to me. Singles is really like that parallel universe you hear about where everything is upside down

bleak pine
#

Anything is Stall

sand forge
#

Can I get an uh.. normal/bug with punk rock & Boomburst

void herald
#

pokemon players are really out here calling control "stall" smh

bleak pine
#

Stall kinda implies that waiting things out is all they can do

#

That is, defense for the sake of defense

#

It can work towards a goal, such as waiting it out until you got your pieces together for your strategy, but usually doesn't seem to be very productive

random stream
#

defensive gholdengo pops up on stall yeah, but it fits everywhere tbh

harsh path
#

I am all too aware that Gholdengo is Gholdengo

random stream
harsh path
#

Oh we got ourselves someone in the rabbit hole

lucid moth
#

cinderace isnt in either team here

harsh path
#

The Vtuber rabbit hole given the name of the opponent

random stream
#

top 139 now

random stream
#

even if he read right I still had an out but that was super funny

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||it would've been trick him w gholdengo then waste pp on sucker, if he didnt lock into sucker then iron moth wins||

lucid moth
#

the definition of insanity

jagged linden
#

how do people typically train optimal mons on cart? grind catch for optimal statted mon, level it up, give it the right moves?

lucid moth
#

getting a friend to trade me fully legal hacked mons

jagged linden
#

okay but what if I don't have friends

lucid moth
#

get... some?

jagged linden
#

I wanna know a solo method because trading with the one person I trust(bf) isn't an option for me

lucid moth
#

i dont actually know how the grind goes in gen 9 at least

bleak pine
#

It depends on whatcha got going on.

#

If you got a lot of cash, either from a lot of Tera Raids you can always shell out for bottle caps

#

And go do Hyper Training

#

This'll increase a mon's IV's to the maximum of 31, though this doesn't set their hard-coded IV's to such, so they are still treated as their original value

#

Most mons you catch in Tera Raid battles also tend to have high IV's, oftentimes reaching the maximum possible.

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As for EV training, buying up power items (Stuff like the Power Belt, Power Bracer, etc.) and having mons hold them will increase that specific EV for each battle.

latent sleet
bleak pine
#

There's usually a lot of groups of mons out there that can give you ample training in for each KO you score. Popular mons to do battle with would be Rookidee/Pawmi/Wattrel for Speed, Yungoos/Tauros for Attack, Gastly/Tatsugiri/Mareep for Sp.Atk, Flabebe/Drowzee for Sp. Def and Bergmite/Nacil for Def

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Just keep in mind that every mon in your party gets the EV's, same as EXP, so you'll need to account for that.

#

If you so wish, I can trade stuff that might make the process of finding ways to train a little easier.

normal cave
#

Featherdance go brrr

harsh path
#

Maybe I should graduate to trying VGC

#

Or should I wait until the new ruleset for the next series?

lyric pollen
#

You can play series 2 rn on showdown

lucid moth
#

u can also just play better formats

lyric pollen
#

vgc is the better format angery

lucid moth
#

better than what? triples? battlespot singles?

lyric pollen
#

Best format*

random stream
tacit sphinx
#

the best format is actually smogon zerogles

#

neither player sends out a mon

bleak pine
#

They boot up Fate Unlimited Codes instead

pseudo goblet
mighty storm
#

KEKW the mark

last musk
#

Cannibalism

mighty storm
#

I like the website's posts on the paradoxes is like "It's validity is not verified" KEKW

sand forge
#

Should be reliability not validity

#

The information is valid, just unreliable

maiden flax
sand forge
#

It's my understanding that validity in an academic context refers to applicability, rather than how sussy the source is

maiden flax
#

Reliability is more so of how often one gets something in line
Validity is more if the info itself is correct to begin with

Reliability is consistency
Validity is "correctness"

sand forge
#

I see what you mean

mighty storm
#

yeah it's cuz we dont know if this is correct info or not

#

especially since Iron Valiant is supposed to be the strongest psychic type, it's not even psychic type

sand forge
#

Just say the word and I'll decanonise Sandy Shocks

warm sky
bleak pine
#

They're more akin to cryptids than anything else

#

You show someone a seal for instance, they'll know it's a seal. Show them something like, I guess a Bunyip on the other hand and they might ask what this thing even is

#

That's kinda the thing I think they were going for as far as 'validity' is concerned

sand forge
#

The depictions of a Bunyip are all over the place

sand forge
bleak pine
#

...Although, yeah, it does beg the question as to how this Magneton exists.

#

Magnets were probably not a thing when this thing existed!

#

I mean, not the horseshoe magnet in any case.

sand forge
#

Or screws

normal cave
#

Magnetic rocks were a thing

sand forge
#

Lodestones, ya

#

but they don't look like horseshoes

normal cave
#

They look like rock

bleak pine
#

Maybe it had to mug some other magneton for the stuff

normal cave
#

Which is why sandy shocks is fucking awful

sand forge
#

Either make a Paradox Magneton out of natural materials, or have it like.. gradually absorb more and more magnemite into itself

#

So you end up with something halfway between Magneton and whatever this is

bleak pine
#

Yeah, hence why I feel like the magnets you see were not originally part of this Magneton

#

...Either that or we're all reading way too hard into this

sand forge
#

Sandy Shocks is an awful design

#

and the worst design of the Paradoxes

normal cave
placid junco
#

Just finished catching the treasures of ruin in luxury balls

placid junco
#

I remain unconvinced Raifort isn’t a former/future villain

normal cave
#

Wezl in a luxury ball

placid junco
#

I named it kitty

#

Snaily, kitty, moosey and fishy

silver vigil
#

How does this even happen

vagrant steppe
#

Coding a game in 3 weeks

normal cave
crimson moat
#

using a dartboard to decide who gets into the game

#

and worrying about the rest later

placid junco
#

Caught a few of the paradoxes but atm I don’t really have any motivation to shiny hunt or do multiplayer/raid stuff in scarlet atm
Even the single player “post game” I’m not super eager to play atm

vagrant steppe
#

Shiny hunting in this game is awful

#

I have the charm, but fuck it

placid junco
#

Yeah that too

#

I think spending like 2.5 hours trying to catch the treasures of ruin in luxury balls didn’t help

mighty storm
#

true friend!

random stream
#

@lucid moth new development for the lando great tusk dynamic

#

turns out grass knot just obliterates the elephant

#

does 80 to offensive 2shots max hp

lucid moth
#

sounds about right yea

#

it isnt a grass resist

random stream
#

||spoiler: iron moth sweep||

#

124 now!

clever saddle
#

Why can’t we use skill swap in raids? I wanna give iron hands huge power

warm sky
#

Is this a Pidove?

lyric pollen
#

Scizor is a nasty mon, just had a game where it OHKOd opposing t-tar, Chomp and dragapult

#

Im also really enjoying glimmora in vgc

#

My team was randomly super weak to talonflame, but glimmora patches that up well

pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
snow oasis
#

Would Snorlax go back to being a prominent special wall in OU if it got Unaware?

random stream
#

I can see it being used but not consistently enough to be OU

#

clodsire is the premier unaware special wall and skeledirge also gives it tough competition

#

those two sport better typing and utility

maiden flax
obsidian juniper
#

Whenever i hear unaware i think of clueless

swift jasper
#

Watch them make an exclusive ability called Clueless and it's just Unaware

pseudo goblet
#

•u•

bleak pine
#

Aaaaaa

warm sky
sand forge
#

10,00,000

obsidian juniper
flat sedge
#

Garg really anacl'ed all over them

crimson moat
#

Do you remember when Garganacl said “it’s curin time!” And cured the entire meta to oblivion

mighty storm
#

there is a reason why garg is salt

warm sky
mighty storm
#

That's not how salt works, rubbing salt in a wound will only make the injury worst

#

/joke

pseudo goblet
placid junco
#

Starting arceus now

pseudo goblet
#

Who you picking

random stream
pseudo goblet
normal cave
#

Tatsugiri my beloved

pseudo goblet
#

It really takes a few good art to make like certain pokemons fluff

mighty storm
#

such good shinies

#

which tatsugiri is the best competitively?

normal cave
#

No clue, but I like the orange one the most

pseudo goblet
#

Tamago sushi best sushi, mainly cause I’m not all that familiar with sea food

normal cave
#

The other two don't look as friendly

pseudo goblet
#

Totally thinking on changing my cake-theme playthrough to just food-theme, I really want to get yellow Tatsugiri and name it Tamago fluff

normal cave
#

Fish cakes are a thing

#

Tayaki, too

pseudo goblet
normal cave
#

Love that

#

That way fish eats cake

#

Very cute

pseudo goblet
#

Still trying to find Tiramisu, Shortcake and Black, yeah apparently ‘Black cake’ is a thing cheems

#

It’s not like I can name Lokix ‘Chocolate’ cake peeposhrug

#

I’m torn between asking or not about where to find Nacli and Tinkaton sweateragent

normal cave
#

Red velvet is a cake if you need a red pokemon

pseudo goblet
#

Koraidon maybe 😂

#

Isn’t like, velvet and scarlet just different shade of red

normal cave
#

Koraidon is a sammich

pseudo goblet
#

Oh god, I just thought of Wigglet named Udon is just a perfect name… then I remember Wuggtrio is red copium

#

Welp, can’t say I didn’t gave Wuggtrio a chance KEKW

flat wing
lucid moth
#

gengar EZ

obsidian juniper
#

Master of the rizz

lucid moth
#

i have been enlightened to lead life orb spatk chomp

#

@random stream

#

also

#

idk

#

azu is def crazy for a water type

#

idk if i like azu or washtom more rn

#

this is def one of my most aggressive teams i have built this gen tho

#

not sure how i will like it

#

double water, double dragons, double ghosts

#

2 life orb users

#

3 technical set up sweepers

#

oh oops

#

i totally forgot belly drum in this azu set

lyric pollen
#

tera bug monkaGIGA

lucid moth
#

tera bug is secretly broken on ceruledge

#

i dont hate tera fighting on ceruledge usually but im on the spdef bulk up set

lyric pollen
#

some of those spreads are triggering me

#

2 def on chomp angery

lucid moth
#

theres a leftover 2 points in all mons

#

so

#

i might as well toss em in there

#

hmmm

#

idk how i will feel about taunt on ceru

lyric pollen
#

I assumed it was for garganacl or something

lucid moth
#

nope

#

its all dud stats

#

2 evs dont give any points

lyric pollen
#

i mean taunt

lucid moth
#

oh lol

lyric pollen
#

otherwise it kind of naenaes on the ceruledge

lucid moth
#

taunt is for a myriad of reasons

#

yea taunt on nacl is nice for it

#

but this team doesnt really struggle vs nacl with having belly drum azu and gambit

#

ceru isnt gonna come in on nacl or want to face off against nacl

#

unless of course i decide to tera fight + fighting move

#

but idt i want cc on this set

#

i was considering brick break on azu

#

but i cant reasonably fit it imo

lyric pollen
#

yeah azu sets are pretty solved

#

unless you're AV or something

lucid moth
#

av can run brick break

#

but yea im not av

#

this team cant afford av

#

its too aggressive

#

hmm all things considered

#

maybe i do want t-wave over wisp on wash?

#

not sure how i feel about either

#

not like ground types switch in to wash

#

and having some sort of speed control is nice

lyric pollen
#

pult and your chomp are fast af at last

#

and double priority

lucid moth
#

triple

#

actually

#

lol

#

jet, sucker, sneak

lyric pollen
#

oh yeah sneak

lucid moth
#

t-wave can probably check most scarfers anyways fuck it

#

t-wave it is

random stream
#

@lucid moth yo I like 3 attacks + lefties azumarill right now

#

Team looks nice

lucid moth
#

i havent been a huge fan of lefties on azu but good to keep in mind

random stream
#

Azumarill @ Leftovers
Ability: Huge Power
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 176 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Def / 16 SpD / 8 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Play Rough
  • Aqua Jet
  • Ice Spinner
  • Protect
#

Yeah works with protect, I've been scouting a lot of dangerous mons w it

lucid moth
#

this might be good on another team but probs not here

random stream
#

yeye sitrus is probably fine here

lucid moth
#

i need my azu to go sicko mode asap

random stream
#

you can probably go back and forth on lefties 4 attacks, av 4 attacks, or sitrus 4 attacks

lucid moth
#

i dont like 4 attacks unless its av tbh

#

feels wrong

random stream
#

oh did you change the azu in the paste then?

#

its on 4 atks

lucid moth
#

ye

#

i forgot belly

#

was toying with a few different azu sets till i came to the conclusion i wanted belly drum

#

forgot to swap tho

random stream
#

gucci

lucid moth
#

i swapped off the av + the av evs i use but forgot to get back belly

random stream
#

team looks nice so far only annoyance would be garga but at least it doesnt switch in well here

#

aside from ceru

#

chomp can lure dondozo

#

azu helps a ton vs chienpao

lucid moth
#

ye

#

its why i have considered fighting move vs garganacl

#

but i will just force them to tera fairy so it loses 100% to gambit

maiden flax
#

My team for a draft league + something cheap like a shroodle or something

lyric pollen
#

looks pretty good

#

not sure how to read it, but it looks like you chose goodra really early which is interesting

random stream
#

that's pretty strong
ceaseless edge + lando-i should shred

#

and garg is like the best defensive mon ever

#

Meow for speed then probably goodra and a flex

warm sky
normal cave
#

Wamter Absormb

#

Wait this is double battles

#

Stornm Draimn

warm sky
# normal cave Stornm Draimn

Nice argument however,

252+ SpA Choice Specs Quark Drive Iron Bundle Helping Hand Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Quilava in Rain: 2378-2798 (925.2 - 1088.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

normal cave
#

1k %

sharp kernel
#

even then, that's a hella troll move. iron bundle is the best speed control in the game (thank you icy wind)

warm sky
#

Oh wait I forgot rain

#

No wait I didn't

normal cave
#

You forgot tera water?

warm sky
#

I forgot terra watee

#

Ye

#

252+ SpA Choice Specs Quark Drive Tera Water Iron Bundle Helping Hand Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Quilava in Rain: 3172-3732 (1234.2 - 1452.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

bleak pine
#

Icy Wind is nice

warm sky
#

Basically

Quilava explodes

bleak pine
#

I like these kinds of moves that aren't too flashy but definitely do the debuffs good

sharp kernel
#

Iron Bundle atm in VGC (whenever series 2 kicks off), is the regieleki equivalent of last gen

#

not a great move pool, but doesn't matter when your utility is high enough, and your neutral hits hit hard enough

maiden flax
# warm sky

Me with av volcanion with max hp and spdef

normal cave
#

Wait come to think of it

swift jasper
normal cave
#

Storm drain would just redirect and suck up the hydro pump

swift jasper
#

yummy water

normal cave
#

So calcing vs quilava is irrelevant since it wouldn't take the damage

normal cave
#

Thank you based gastro

maiden flax
#

Gastro gets hit by freeze dry instead

warm sky
# swift jasper yummy water

252+ SpA Choice Specs Quark Drive Iron Bundle Helping Hand Freeze-Dry vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Gastrodon: 1668-1968 (391.5 - 461.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

placid junco
#

i started arceus last night
so far I'm not horribly impressed
but it's not bad either

swift jasper
#

protect

placid junco
#

i'd give multiplayer a try in scarlet but i've never really tried multiplayer in pokemon
or super enjoyed it

bleak pine
#

Eh, same here

#

As much as I try to make things work I just don't like competing against others

normal cave
# swift jasper protect

252+ SpA Quilava Solar Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Iron Bundle: 312-368 (123.3 - 145.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

#

Gastro protects, quilava one shots with power herb

fading stratus
#

But gastro is taunted

swift jasper
#

252 SpA Choice Specs Iron Bundle Freeze-Dry vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Tera Fairy Gastrodon: 135-160 (31.6 - 37.5%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

#

L

normal cave
fading stratus
#

Tera fairy gastro walls most dondozo sets which is hilarious

swift jasper
#

252 SpA Choice Specs Iron Bundle Helping Hand Freeze-Dry vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Tera Fairy Gastrodon: 204-240 (47.8 - 56.3%) -- 28.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

#

ig helping hand helps

normal cave
#

Bundle still gets one shot tho

fading stratus
#

Do you even play max hp max spd gastro

swift jasper
#

idk, it's one of the builds the tool suggested

jagged linden
#

this is something that has been confusing me a lot: how do EVs work?

#

I don't understand the concept

warm sky
flat sedge
golden lance
#

Yo chat

#

My younger brother just asked me to play a game vs him in adv format

#

How hard do i want to obliterate the child?

placid junco
#

Population bomb him

golden lance
#

Maushold in gen 3 PogYu

placid junco
#

Oh

#

I didn’t realize you meant GBA formst

#

Do heracross sub punch then

golden lance
#

Basically the "ruleset" is that he can only use frlg mons, while i can only use rse mons, both of us can bring a max of 3 legendaries/mythicals

#

I was thinking of just doing a full on baton pass team

swift jasper
#

baton pass is very evil and appropriate for this

outer eagle
#

Spikes stacking teams existed in gen 3 right?

fringe dust
golden lance
flat sedge
#

Spikes have been an insanely defining part of every generation they existed

#

Hard to overstate how defining

#

Only a little less prevelant imo 6-8(9) but only because of how comparitively omnipresent they were in the older gens

maiden flax
#

Squad is ready

pseudo goblet
#

KIMOCHI!! AWAAAAAA

Man I really should’ve record this match! One unite kills all 4 of them trying to score points

pseudo goblet
#

Annoying KEKW

#

Making my Pokémon confused and all those fake points lol

#

Haven’t got around dealing with them while invisible, I saw it(ironically), but didn’t get to fight them

maiden flax
#

Offensive supports are my jam

pseudo goblet
#

Please don’t use Egg bomb blissey in Full Fury KEKW

She’s a sadist when she’s in there monkaGIGA sweateragent

#

You re looking at a victim who experienced stun per 1 sec deadinside

#

Wait the Pokémon given was randomized, I forgot

mighty storm
#

Another new distribution has begun in Pokémon Scarlet & Violet. This dsitribution is part of an infrequent series on the official Japanese YouTube Channel of an AfterSchool Club. This code gives all players 1 Ability Capsule. The code is T0KUSE1STUDY.
This event ends on February 28th 2023 at 14:59 UTC

bleak pine
#

Never gonna say no to more Ability Capsules

sand forge
#

Can I get an ability that uhhh uses Sweet Scent on switch-in

#

Thank you

pseudo goblet
#

It’s Crystal Onix all over again

harsh path
#

salt lick garganacl

void herald
#

minecraft boy...

pseudo goblet
#

Hmm, should use it on Eclair? Or do I keep Poison point

#

Also considering on switching Lemon’s volt absorb to wind power

random stream
#

Volt absorb is super nice imo

#

water absorb clodsire is very good too

mighty storm
#

@pseudo goblet cheems someone already posted that

pseudo goblet
#

Where?

pseudo goblet
#

Ah

placid junco
#

Current arceus team is
Decidueye, Qwuilfish, mantine

#

At least for stuff I plan on keeping

placid junco
pseudo goblet
#

Soooo, bug mon got good non-official form meguface

kind vortex
#

okay i'll admit that's a decent fakemon

#

generally not a fan of fakemon bc i think most people who make them aren't very good at it

#

but that one's acceptable

placid junco
#

The hero form could use a little bit of tweaking but the concept is excellent

young magnet
#

The concept I like but like Copper said hero form needs retweaking
Feels like it just goes to far off from base form in the wrong way

pseudo goblet
#

Now I’m desperately want a Pokémon base on Ultraman with Hero form in mind, yes we have Gigantamax but it’s not the same lol

vocal torrent
#

Considering Pokemon based on Ultra capsule anyway, having Ultra-based Pokemon should be no-brainer idea

pseudo goblet
#

Yet we are still missing that one thing froghead

#

Okay I have no idea how a Sentai/Power ranger Pokémon would work, we do have falinks but it’s not in Pride color for it to really count

lyric pollen
#

the dust has settled

#

i think my fave gen 9 mon is glimmora

random stream
#

Mine is still baxcalibur but glim is defo top 5

random stream
lyric pollen
#

bax is also very nice

#

glim is just the right level of weird looking/ weird lore for me, reminds me of meteor or a toned down ultra beat

pseudo goblet
#

When two people with similar taste met fluff

lyric pollen
#

honourable mentions include new tauros, toedscruel and skeledirge

pseudo goblet
#

Which Tauros peepoDetective

lyric pollen
#

💧

bleak pine
#

I really liked Ledian’s design, so this is super nice

random stream
#

here's mi current squad with bulkarona added

outer eagle
#

Volcarona best bug type PogYu

lyric pollen
#

is there a reason to run grass over flying glimmora if you dont have energy ball

normal cave
#

Volcarona my beloved

random stream
#

I used to be on eball, so I'm not sure

lyric pollen
#

ig water resist

random stream
#

something like that

#

I usually tera bax volcarona or gholdengo here

lyric pollen
#

also TIL volc lost roost

warm sky
pseudo goblet
sand forge
#

Does the adult lose a limb

pseudo goblet
#

Maybe ConcernedFroge

#

I mean, seems to me it lose a pair of its legs to train its back leg, btw the big boi was helping the small one to stand up

random stream
#

||the kingambit section was really sweaty when azu low rolled, but it's all good||

long stone
lucid moth
golden lance
random stream
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
#

What got me was Ryuki op hit the moment it broke glass😂

maiden flax
#

I honestly feel that dondozo has done catfish justice

#

Like whiscash is supposed giant catfish but ita puny
Dondozo on the other hand really encapsulates how big catfish cab be

pseudo goblet
#

Who fucking did it gunR

normal cave
vocal torrent
#

I read it as Wezl too

maiden flax
#

First match

#

Sneasler is scary
Physical azelf about to go crazy
H samurott gets to hazard stack with giri being their only hazard removal lol

jagged linden
#

Hoopa???

warm sky
#

actually if we go from my top 50 to 1 it's in order
Chandelure
A-Marowak
Mimikyu
H-Typhlosion
Sableye
Lunala
Froslass
Decidueye
H-Zoroark
Giratina
Aegislash
Gengar

@pseudo goblet @normal cave

#

for my fav ghosties

pseudo goblet
#

Good choices

#

Okay another ghost type I’ve forgotten until now sweateragent

#

Jellicent

warm sky
#

hehe funny jellyfish

#

Fun fact btw

#

originally it wasn't even going to be a ghost type

#

They just changed it to fill the roster up a bit

#

Like as much as I like Unova, the water types were very filler that gen

#

At the least Basculin went from me ironically memeing on it to "oh it's actually got a cool evo now"

pseudo goblet
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Sorry for interrupting, but I feel sorry for this guy cheems

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warm sky
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eh I feel that would miss the point of the concept though?

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It's better off as pure electric

pseudo goblet
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Yeah I don’t mind it being pure electric

normal cave
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I forgot h-typh was ghost

pseudo goblet
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Also, Jesus Christ this school is laggy

warm sky
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I mean Typhlosion I just love

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H-typh is still a typhlosion

normal cave
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Yessss

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It's one of my two fave starters

pseudo goblet
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Wait this school has two npc with big psychic bell mon???

normal cave
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Also one of the two starters I don't have the urge to box after my first mon

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All those monotype runs broke me when it comes to starters

warm sky
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My top 10 fav starters are
Blaziken
Samurott
Greninja
Typhlosion
Infernape
Empoleon
Sceptile
Decidueye
Serperior
Blastoise

pseudo goblet
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I would’ve put a dirty history joke here but, way to rubbing salt on me losing my Kamen rider tabs recently game… copium

normal cave
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For me it's
Samurott
Typh
Typh-H
Samurott-H
Everything else

mighty storm
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ever notice how Arven's team is all foodmons outside of his doggo?

pseudo goblet
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How glitchy can this place be my god monkaGIGA

pseudo goblet
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Salted grilled-oyster sounds good 🤤

mighty storm
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berries, oyster, spice, mushrooms, salt, and the odd one out a good fren to eat a sandwich with

pseudo goblet
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Finally get to Penny

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Shroodle vs Wooper, bad choice lil lass NyanGun

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Game’s gimmick obtained

jagged linden
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we talking favorite pokemon?

  1. Quaquaval(what are you talking about, bias? :yoshi: )

  2. Blaziken

  3. Lucario

  4. Groudon

  5. Ampharos

  6. Goodra

  7. Girafarig

  8. Altaria

  9. Oshawatt

  10. Tinkaton(literally one of the best designs in gen 9 imo)

pseudo goblet
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Um… I wasn’t suppose to be here monkaGIGA monkaGIGA monkaGIGA

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Why am I stuck on this island

pseudo goblet
placid junco
normal cave
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Scoville is a measurement of spicyness, and capsicum is the chemical responsible for the burn

golden lance
normal cave
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Ah

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My bad

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Yeah she listed spice there

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You're 100% right

random stream
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Here's my top 6 favorites
then 7-10 would be
Baxcalibur, Salamence, Krookodile, Aegislash

normal cave
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Are we doing faves again

random stream
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Oh someone was doing faves so I tagged along

normal cave
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Last I did that list thing I wound up with 10 weasels in my top 10

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And then Cresselia at number 11

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sharp kernel
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Lycanroc normal and dusk form is prob in my top 10

golden lance
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Pretty sure my top 10 is like

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9 waters and a ferrothorn

sharp kernel
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Kilowattrel is putting in a hell of an argument to take over Braviary as my favorite bird

random stream
golden lance
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Yes

sharp kernel
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I can’t believe I share a love of Krookodile with ren

random stream
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Krook is great

sharp kernel
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Krookodile got swag

random stream
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most of my picks are comp influenced but theres some ingame stuff to it too

sharp kernel
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Believe it or not, toxicroak was at one point a top 5 Pokémon for me, but I think the fact that it sucks comp has made it fall out the top 10 for me

random stream
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Croak got powercrept hard yeah unfort