Caught a tinkatuff, idk if I’ll use it
#Pokemon
placid junco
bleak pine
yes
I love this pink hammer thing.
Dunno if it's to your liking but I think it really is the winner out of all new mons introduced
placid junco
I gave it a team appropriate name in case I wanna use it
maiden flax
https://twitter.com/Rila_anipoke/status/1598285719898030082?s=19 rika checks ash's amount of badges "fifty... six...??"
placid junco
Bro wtf
Revival blessing
placid junco
Team building is hard
So many Pokémon I like, only 6 team slots
I’m gonna need to start a B team or some shit
spice rivet
Do what I do, I rotated through 10 mons
pseudo goblet
10? Why not 20+ 
tacit sphinx
Team building is hard
So many Pokémon I like, only 6 team slots
I’m gonna need...
Horror theming?
lyric pollen
I've assembled my first vgc team
for this format
I'm just missing an occa berry but whatever
orthworm will climb the ladder
maiden flax
Horror theming?
Ah yes, clodsire, my favourite horror mon
pseudo goblet
It came from a swamp ain’t it, ‘swamp thing’ is a thing from DC 
Totally different creature tho
Also, I was shopping to see if there’s Pokemon Scarlet here, they sold out…
And I was checking the web stores, turns out Violet sold out quicker than Scarlet, they still have 76 left, the heck? Is it because the cooler lizard
sand forge
aw Lucario
swift jasper
Damn i received a steel dinosaur
silver vigil
is Fuecoco or Mudkip more fucked ingame
harsh path
Wormadam(?) is pretty neat
I believe Wormadan’s the name?
I just remember it can come in several variants
Like one that looks like a slice of pizza 
fading stratus
https://twitter.com/touyarokii/status/1596682905895698434?s=46&t=OmSjp5HTtlRQzaw...
Time to find some corviknight
harsh path
Oh right! Been a while since I’ve seen that mon
pseudo goblet
Time to find some corviknight
Speaking of that
https://twitter.com/raspberry__44/status/1594647352987770882?s=46&t=osAlD1mW_8_56SRRNQUgFA
She’s coming 
pseudo goblet
@golden lance
I see that you re interested in snakes 
harsh path
So you like sneks?
sharp kernel
Updated team
Why white herb
warm sky
big
crimson moat
Big assuming that the game keeps it to scale
golden lance
Big
obsidian juniper
Beeg
lucid moth
mighty storm
I like how her ace is clodsire
warm sky
bleak pine
Acquire the Sire
timid oracle
reject Pikachu, return to Clodsire
pseudo goblet
If it’s game Pikachu, Gladly
young river
<@708512166470483998>
I see that you re interested in snakes <:snootboop:50343...
I forgot that Seviper lady existed until just now
pseudo goblet
Imagine how I felt to rely on her and Koga for poison status until recent poison balance in Masters… pretty sure it’s not just me too
bleak pine
Yeah, the Battle Frontier isn't exactly a well-known thing in this day and age
...The Emerald one I mean
Yeah, Koga was super busted
Getting off the poison from Poison Fang was practically a win assuming you can weather the storm.
Especially if you can also confuse them, cause if a mon is confused and hits itself, it can't activate any sort of ability that would reduce the damage from poison
So they'd just take like a billion damage from poison
pseudo goblet
Looker&Croagunk and Iris(Halloween)&Naganedel are such godsend for poison buff 
Well, Giovanni SS&Nidoking too but they re primary ground
warm sky
void herald
latent sleet
placid junco
mighty storm
reminder sleep talk can copy revival blessing
bleak pine
Alright, so funny thing happened in a failed raid battled
Opponent? Krookodile.
I had an entire team of physical attackers, and I had the only one mon that has special attacks instead.
Krookodile knows Counter
And so the three of them after buffing their attack stat massively, just threw themselves forward and promptly got KO'd.
That damage was enough to probably do a KO 50 times over
bleak pine
Alright, so how powerful can Fury Cutter get? I'm debating having it as a move to use during raid battles
Having it on Scizor would provide a whole lot of damage, especially under terastalization
pseudo goblet
twin shard
The Pokémon go ultra beasts vid was great
They should really do more live action stuff in general
sharp kernel
Day 1 of that vgc style tourney was pretty alright
Meowscarada doing over half health to garchomp kinda fucks
Also I live for watching all the multitude of ways grimmsnarl gets fucked in this format
Population Bomb = dead
Make it rain = dead (through light screen)
Annihilape final gambit = dead (positive trade)
pseudo goblet
bleak pine
aaaaaaaa
bleak pine
Alright, gonna catch and train a Torkoal for raids
What kind of stat distribution should I do?
pseudo goblet
bleak pine
Eevee~
pseudo goblet
They attach pieces of seaweed snack on snow
pseudo goblet
https://twitter.com/eevee_community/status/1599192150536646658?s=46&t=P7krwfZgdp...
what do you mean this isn’t a Glaceon, it totally is
lyric pollen
wait perrserker isn't legal for vgc??
vagrant steppe
Man why the fuck is the ed Sheeran song in the credits?
bleak pine
Yeah, Perrserker isn't strangely enough.
Don't think Quagsire and Charizard are either
lyric pollen
can you get a regular quag?
lyric pollen
charizard I knew about, but perrserker makes me sad
golden lance
In game trade, yea
bleak pine
Perrserker is really amazing in raid battles
4 Perrserker in a raid is just a real steel smackdown
My love for this cat is like a truck
lyric pollen
yeah same reason its good in doubles, chuck a scizor next to it and spam steel moves
or tera something random steel
or gholdengo
bleak pine
Ah, I wish, but really Steely Spirit isn't that fantastic in battles as you'd think
When you got 4 other mons out as a team though...
lyric pollen
I used it a lot in early swo/sh, its alright
definately a gimmick
but half of vgc teams are
bleak pine
Same reason I feel Stonjourner is pretty great in raids
Power Spot is just a flat bonus to damage for your teammated
lyric pollen
yeah but stonjourner is just actually ass unfort
bleak pine
And really, it's not always about damage output. I feel more useful playing a tech role than just smacking things
lyric pollen
at least perrserker learns fake out etc
bleak pine
Yeah you just keep slapping your belly, Azumaril, I'm just gonna have Grimmsnarl wrestle this Charizard by spamming Spirit Break.
pseudo goblet
https://twitter.com/oocpokemon/status/1599223727568211968?s=46&t=P7krwfZgdpXY3aq...
Oh so that’s how the Psyduck lost its head earlier 
I want that wheel
snow oasis
lucid moth
watching your opponent click focus blast as if it wouldnt miss and then seeing them rewarded with only hits from their focus blast
pseudo goblet
warm sky
Man why the fuck is the ed Sheeran song in the credits?
because that's what we needed money for, not voice acting, Ed Sheeran
warm sky
placid junco
I am now starting a box exclusively for Pokémon I wanna rotate through my team
pseudo goblet
Is Clodsire included in that box?
long stone
random idea: Nymfeebug and Malewig
silver vigil
how can I make this better https://pokepast.es/17b6fccb0449860e
spice rivet
For VGC or singles?
sharp kernel
Looks like singles based on the cyclizar
silver vigil
singles
warm sky
warm sky
how can I make this better https://pokepast.es/17b6fccb0449860e
Genuine question, why the 8 atk EV's
lucid moth
just hits extra damage thresholds for kos and such
lucid moth
how can I make this better https://pokepast.es/17b6fccb0449860e
also goo ur team has hitters but they only ever hit spdef lol
wyd vs blissey
or other fat spdef tanks like unaware clodsire can wall ur entire team
lucid moth
Or is it just that because 248 is all you need for hp
248 is fine u dont need more than that
lucid moth
i like volc
placid junco
Is Clodsire included in that box? <:meguface:567437318097731596>
Yes
lucid moth
i dont like espathra much myself
silver vigil
tru
placid junco
I like the funny ostrich
lucid moth
tho i understand the cheese u are going for with it
silver vigil
I've swept more with volc than espathra
lucid moth
volc is just built better
pseudo goblet
Could I ask you guys for help, I’m on my last decision on buying SV, think I want Scarlet, is there any counterpoint for me to get Violet 
placid junco
Tucker is one of my valued A team members
lucid moth
bulky volc with tera grass and flame body ability
pseudo goblet
Which versions did you guys get? 
placid junco
Currently training a B team of sorts
Scarlet
Since I can’t decide on only 6 Pokémon I like for this game
Currently training up my Varoom, Sarah Connor
Because horror movie characters
placid junco
You see her almost exclusively on a screen/phone call
As far as I’ve made it into the game at least
It’s really not a huge deal which version you go with tbh
pseudo goblet
Anyone here with Violet?
lucid moth
chien pao over espathra
chien pao isnt bad
placid junco
FIDOUGH STOP USING ROAR
pseudo goblet
Yeah imma stick with Scarlet, iron valiant, iron hands and miraidon are the only Violet exclusive I want
Oh and iron treads, I kinda like the wheel form
sharp kernel
Does singles not like opportunist esparthra? You can come in and fuck over most set up Pokémon. Also lumina Crash is too good of an ability not to use if you are using esparthra imo
placid junco
Mine has frisk 
placid junco
It seems like I got literally the worst ability then lol
bleak pine
And yeah, an attack that is nearly as powerful as Psychic that is guaranteed to sharply reduce Sp. Def is super good
Eh, Frisk is alright
Just, you’re never gonna need it for stuff outside of the adventure
Could be helpful if you are looking for a specific Held item a mon has so you can mug them for it
sharp kernel
She. I first saw esparthra I immediately thought it was made for singles
sharp kernel
It’s a special wall breaker, hits hard, and can come in and match set up Pokémon immediately
placid junco
Training up lokix and other B team members for the alfornadagym
bleak pine
Yeaaa
lucid moth
Does singles not like opportunist esparthra? You can come in and fuck over most ...
why would u ever want opportunist
the only set up mon espathra ever would care to come in on like that is volc
speed boost is infinitely better as a result
sharp kernel
Because speed boost as a skill is horribly overrated and you’re never ohko-ing any Pokémon with esparthra
That Blissey you speak of that does Jack shit besides be a special tank? Esparthra shits on it. Clodsire? Gets 2 shot by lumina crash
It’s also a net minus to ever switch into lumina crash
placid junco
Snowscape is a neat move
crimson moat
Because speed boost as a skill is horribly overrated and you’re never ohko-ing a...
Still the ability to threaten anything offensive by outspeeding it seems way more valuable than memeing on Volc
Pretty much any stat booster in the current OU besides Volcarona is either DDance or Swords Dance
Except Skeledirge, who Espartha does not benefit from taking Torch Song boosts because Dirge takes the same damage regardless
sharp kernel
Still the ability to threaten anything offensive by outspeeding it seems way mor...
This would be fine if a Pokémon with better offensive stats hadn’t already had speed boost and been a meme (yanmega). That speed boost doesn’t mean much if you’re not consistently getting ohko’s or have great coverage to threaten 2 tapping everything
crimson moat
But why tf would you instead limit it to only being useeful against Volc?
silver vigil
@lucid moth tera grass has instantly won me games ty
sharp kernel
Because it would also be great vs spdef walls based on lumina crash existing.
crimson moat
You're not giving up Calm Mind regardless
You have either Stored Power or Lumina Crash dealing with that
crimson moat
Opportunist does jack shit for you against SPDeef walls
Calm Mind and your psychic move do that
Opportunist does not affect your play against Blissey
Like if you are running into a Blissey with Calm Mind, you can just set up your own Calm Minds yourself. It's not like you would decide to wait for Blissey to set up multiple calm minds if you had no way of contesting that defense
crimson moat
Opportunist is there so you don't get btfo by some numbnuts who somehow got off multiple Quiver Dances on your ass
At that point you decide on a different pokemon to deal with Volc and let Espartha contribute to threatening walls via Calm Mind and Stored Power/Lumina Crash
Opportunist does not add shit to that niche
Lumina Crash, Calm Mind, and Stored Power all do in some way
lucid moth
<@480437470870110209> tera grass has instantly won me games ty
sounds about right
lucid moth
Because speed boost as a skill is horribly overrated and you’re never ohko-ing a...
this is wrong in multiple levels
first
speed boost is absurdly strong in singles
its not overrated
second
silver vigil
skeledirge is a fuck
lucid moth
espathra can easily hit ohko and sweeps
but not against unaware pokemon
clodsire fucks espathra hard
civic flint
Does that count the special Def and speed boosts?
lucid moth
tera into steel
yes
it counts stored power boosts
but it doesnt matter vs clodsire
civic flint
🦃
pseudo goblet
Sorry for interrupting
https://twitter.com/mikripkm/status/1599238586913951744?s=46&t=bD1rl1vWsAERAdTt3_0Qsw
||https://twitter.com/hu_manbee_ing/status/1599222514848215040?s=46&t=3wfhwH27zKe0uBuSAEW_1g||
crimson moat
The root of the problem with Opportunist is "What pokemon is it ever going to matter for besides Volcarona?"
A defensive wall can be calm mind stacked regardless of Opportunist
crimson moat
At that point you decide on a different pokemon to deal with Volc and let Espart...
yup
Certain walls it cannot deal with, but Speed Boost providing it more advantage to anything on average is far better than dedicating it to Volc
sharp kernel
You just used another example in Blissey. First off the Blissey player setting up calm mind vs a esparthra team is a dumbass, but even if we ignore that, hey, I switch in esparthra to your calm mind stacking, and not only do I use the stats better than you, 1 lumina crash completely invalidates you, and you just set me up for sweeping your entire team, or at the very least going extremely net positive.
sand forge
Sorry for interrupting
https://twitter.com/mikripkm/status/1599238586913951744...
it helps that this artwork of Chikorita is better than the actual design of Chikorita
crimson moat
I mean the point still stands that Opportunist literally doesn't matter against any special buffs other than Volc
Even if they tried Calm Minding you, it literally doesn't matter that you are running Opportunist
lucid moth
you guarantee 2hko blissey but she has time to para u and then seismic or try and teleport out
vagrant steppe
Gotta say, I don't like the way the legendaries are added/removed from your party
vagrant steppe
I'd much prefer being able to box the actual legendary like usual
crimson moat
jfc
vagrant steppe
But I'm specific about which Pokemon go in what boxes, and the legendaries mess with that
crimson moat
why do i bother
lucid moth
another case
espathra can absolutely hit ohko thresholds
unaware dondozo with max hp and some spdef investment will die to espathra
there is not a huge opportunity cost to running speed boost as a result
cus lumina crash does nearly 0 to dondozo and this is just it as a pure water no tera
pseudo goblet
Legend Kyurem regional form maybe
sharp kernel
Last I checked, ohko referred to you not setting up a calm mind and then clicking stored power lol
But w.e y’all got it, I’m not arguing this
placid junco
Tulip down
silver vigil
what would be a better item than life orb https://pokepast.es/783a2c6c82562414
other than that this has given me a ton of success so far
pseudo goblet
Question, can all the paradoxes be caught multiple times?
kind vortex
yes, you can find multiple paradoxes
pseudo goblet
And I can enter the other version’s world to find the exclusive I don’t have and catch them, correct
pseudo goblet
Still deciding which to buy 
Leaning onto scarlet but the paradoxes are what making me think thrice
golden lance
You can just trade for exclusive mons
Meanwhile in violet you get the cooler bike
silver vigil
Koraidon is way cooler
warm sky
^
pseudo goblet
Meanwhile in violet you get the cooler bike
Pretty sure that’s the reason why the stores I’ve seen made the robot lizard’s game more expensive, and sold out quicker
outer eagle
Miraidon do be baller as a bike
pseudo goblet
Okay so the thing is call Union circle, anyone with Violet willing to help me with paradoxes and maybe miraidon when I get my game few weeks later?
warm sky
Pretty sure that’s the reason why the stores I’ve seen made the robot lizard’s g...
ye miraidon is the popular one
pseudo goblet
Hang on, I need to check’s Miraidon animation
pseudo goblet
ye miraidon is the popular one
And stronger I’m guessing
pseudo goblet
To be fair, I do like fighting, 5 types coverage baby
warm sky
and VGC doesn't allow either yet
outer eagle
that's why i said, all the lore and justifications in the world doesn't matter when people dislikes something's appearance
outer eagle
that's the common point i notice
pseudo goblet
Cause honestly idc about that lol
outer eagle
people can repeat the floatation tube trivia all they want but appearances still matter
sand forge
https://twitter.com/oponpong/status/1599423614453186561?s=46&t=TxKqDvk9HG3H5AEkH...
too much creativity detected
sand forge
The wheel is the worst part of Koraidon
outer eagle
i mean i've heard people refer to voltorb as peak pokemon design b4
sand forge
except maybe the wings
pseudo goblet
Hmm… damn it pokemon is literally the worst thing for someone who has the hardest time to decide on something
mighty storm
they got it at least
I dont think it actually spawned in the wall btw, the cavern has mirrors
pseudo goblet
Wait Great tusk is Ground Fighting?!
mighty storm
yeah
pseudo goblet
Is it the first mon with this type match?
polar osprey
Yeah
pseudo goblet
polar osprey
Can't we get a ground fairy mon already?
golden lance
Terrakion
mighty storm
and iron tusk is ground/steel
polar osprey
It's the single best offensive type combination in the game and we never got it
pseudo goblet
Wait Great tusk is Ground Fighting?!
SCREW THE FUTURE, 10 TYPES COVERAGE HERE I COME
polar osprey
You only get the paradox mons after you do everything in the game
Keep that in mind
pseudo goblet
Oh yeah, still
pseudo goblet
Okay so slither wing is the one with bug type, got ya
Dang…I really like iron hands… it and multiple other future paradoxes are what keeps me from getting scarlet…
polar osprey
Paradox mons don't matter when choosing the game
You only get them at the very end of the game and you can't trade for the other version whenever
Get the lizard you like the most
You will be stuck with that one forever
pseudo goblet
True
Okay did they really fucking have to make these lizards stats almost the same 😂
outer eagle
i mean
that's just typical box art legends stuff
they often have similar stats except for swapped offenses/defenses
pseudo goblet
Either lizard that walks or lizard that has working wheels…
placid junco
i think the dumb non functional wheels are funnier
pseudo goblet
Settled, Koraidon I choose you
Could’ve say that with less cringe lol
The decision only took 4++ hours and 3 hour of sleep left before work, settle once and for all 
warm sky
https://twitter.com/jako_boke/status/1598979596795662337/photo/1 speaking of slow start
mighty storm
btw, if anyone still thinks we could get a sound type. They wont because they would have to change the move thunderbolt
either a rename, or change the type entirely
(thunder is sound, lightning is what shocks)
crimson moat
I mean that naming is an issue as "They didn't care about that in gen 1"
100,000 Volts is the Japanese name
There's no reason why this would be a limiter. It's too ingrained for them to care to change it.
They can do whatever the hell they want lol
sand forge
btw, if anyone still thinks we could get a sound type. They wont because they w...
The "Bolt" in Thunderbolt refers to the Lightning
crimson moat
If any move is closer to needing its property redone, its Sonic Boom
bleak pine
Guile intensifies
latent sleet
i did it mr president, i defeated a tera raid tinkaton with corviknight
crimson moat
They could literally make another Thunderbolt as an electric move based on the Thunderbolt interface system. it doesn't matter lol
bleak pine
Nice
bleak pine
Also would lead to a lot of confusing rebranding of moves that also use sound in some way
Stuff like Growl, Howl, Roar, etc.
sand forge
Make Thunder bypass Substitute is all I'm saying
bleak pine
Jeez, a Boomburst that would be super-effective against a certain type would be busted
mighty storm
*Thunder* on the other hand
Sound based thunder 
110 Base power special sound move.
crimson moat
They could do whatever they want to whatever benefit that they believe would draw in an audience
Changing the name of one of the most common attacks their mascot uses in the anime? probably not a priority
crimson moat
They would just make the sound type and not care to change the names if they felt people would associate with it better.
sand forge
Also if "Thunderbolt" proves problematic, then wait until they realise that everything makes a sound
crimson moat
The reason they wouldn't do the sound type is if they felt it was too much work for a type not many are even interested in to begin with
bleak pine
Honestly, with each type in existence right now I feel like all bases have been covered
crimson moat
The reason they wouldn't do the sound type is if they felt it was too much work ...
And too much work for Pokemon has shown as a low ass bar
sand forge
All moves are now Sound type
bleak pine
However, a few tweaks to certain types would be alright
mighty storm
Toxtricity
sand forge
If they were to add a new typing, I'd like Primeval or something to do with the fossils
latent sleet
FUCK MY GAME CRASHED WHEN I WAS ABOUT TO BEAT CHARIZARD
bleak pine
Ouch
placid junco
blame charizard
crimson moat
with an undefeated champion?
sharp kernel
Lol, I seen somebody say that all of Team Star’s members could be queer icons
warm sky
sharp kernel
Finally getting around to beating the game, this is my team going into the E4
Oh, team star’s boss was a fun fight
tidal wadi
placid junco
they probably aren't worth much, if thats an official product
crimson moat
It's... well, to be as blunt as possible packs are usually never worth it
sharp kernel
Fuck, I never caught up with the classes and I’ve been doing nothing but classes for the last hour
placid junco
yeah I'm gonna be catching up on classes tonight too
latent sleet
i always took the classes when they were available
it contains useful info if you live under a rock
placid junco
i am currently only missing 2 gym badges, 2 star badges, and 1 titan badge
sharp kernel
Show your team
kind vortex
soloed zard with about 40 mins to spare
used azumarill for it, got pretty lucky overall
mighty storm
mighty storm
Lol, I seen somebody say that all of Team Star’s members could be queer icons
I also saw that 😮
kind vortex
ye azumarill is a little more rng heavy than i'd like, but it works well enough
got a kill this time, so no fails in 2 attempts
zard also casually dropping like 15 calcium per run lol
polar osprey
ye azumarill is a little more rng heavy than i'd like, but it works well enough
Flutter Mane can solo zard with like 100% consistency
kind vortex
ye but i still haven't built one
it's fine tho, azumarill's doing well enough for now
i'll probably have a flutter mane built by the rerun
golden lance
Ah yes, tunak tunak tun
latent sleet
indeed i am
im the so called tunak tunak tun fan
i want to catch the evil fire fish
kind vortex
my favorite battle theme is probably the western province one
got a nice wild west sort of vibe to it
mighty storm
my friend got a shiny pawniard
in a beast ball
marked also
Bisharp the cloud watcher
maiden flax
Garganacl is such a good mon lol
Showdown peeps when their 1780+ team dies to a tera fairy garganacl
maiden flax
Flutter Mane can solo zard with like 100% consistency
Espathra can do it with like 95% consistency 😄
pseudo goblet
young river
O-o
pseudo goblet
Curry udon
mighty storm
btw ducky did you ever find a shiny galarian slowpoke?
bleak pine
Interesting question Ducky and never thought to ask: Slowbro or Slowking?
young river
turns out i accidentally did the last gym leader 6th. oops lol
sharp kernel
Interesting question Ducky and never thought to ask: Slowbro or Slowking?
Neither
He only likes base slowpoke
Last I checked he didn’t even like Galarian slowpoke
golden lance
Ngl i forgot about this
pseudo goblet
He only likes base slowpoke
What about Slowqueen
bleak pine
Just found this out about Hydreigon in it’s entry on violet
“It's said that Hydreigon grew ferocious because people in times long past loathed it, considering it to be evil incarnate and attacking it relentlessly.”
…Ok, I very much am gonna say. This is just depressing
Super glad that I can give three headed drago a good home
pseudo goblet
Give Hydreigon a Clodsire to hug with*
maiden flax
So just noticed the smogon tier survey thing was up
are you in the top 250?
plays for 2 hours from 1500 to 1700
Well I wasn't but I sure am now!
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1731555454 here is the game that did it
Or as I like to call this game
Garganacl bullying a person's team to death
sharp kernel
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1731555454 here is the game that did i...
By all intensive purposes this was a garganacl sweep
latent sleet
found a shiny mudbray named him jin
he also has stamina
so i think he’s gonna be great for raids
harsh path
Gave him some NaCl in more ways than one
latent sleet
guess he’s salty
pseudo goblet
You know, standing too close to an Articuno might be a bad idea, but, it’s kinda my only ticket to experience some sort of winter coldness, so wth 
At least I believe it’s feather is fluffy, comparing to other ice type legendary here
pseudo goblet
Wait past Volcarona technically stayed as baby right??
Slither Wing, the name went passed me for a sec
silver vigil
Anyone got a skeledirge team
sharp kernel
@polar osprey this team, fucks so hard
polar osprey
Gooey was the one that asked for the dirge team
But it's nice seeing baxcalibur getting some use
sharp kernel
he wanted it for singles
polar osprey
Underated af rn
sharp kernel
yeah he's really good, and abomasnow with all the buffs it got is pretty damn decent rn'
latent sleet
saw fire tauros
sharp kernel
I'm curious on the water tauros
It's the best one
spice rivet
I was wondering if anyone with Violet would be up to do coop Shiny hunting?
I already have all the ||Scarlet Paradox mons|| so whoever agrees has dibs on those, I'm mainly looking to catch my own Shiny ||Iron Valiant.||
pseudo goblet
civic flint
under Snow as well
placid junco
yeah
placid junco
warm sky
sand forge
Poor Corviknight
bleak pine
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
warm sky
https://twitter.com/dh_paleoart/status/1599409194234310656 @pseudo goblet
sharp kernel
Ducky be like: Slowking? Blocked.
waxen moat
crimson moat
TLDR; there is an ongoing investigation about how Tera seemingly boosts certain moves to 60 BP for no reason
As in 60 BP in addition to Tera's normal buff
placid junco
purifying salt not blocking the one status is should block most of all is hilarious
crimson moat
This might honestly imply that 60 BP was originally planned as the part of the buff
But for whatever reason they just uh-oh-forgot to uncheck something on certain moves.
bleak pine
Speaking of, I just learned Slowking has an utterly hilarious exclusive move
Slowking tells a bad joke, and it starts snowing, persumably from Slowking waiting on there to be any laughs in the audience
Then Slowking swaps out with another mon in waiting
It seems odd but it really looks to be a straight upgrade over Teleport in a lot of ways... not that Slowking could actually learn the move, per se, at least, not without being brought over from another game via HOME
crimson moat
This might honestly imply that 60 BP was originally planned as the part of the b...
This could also explain why Aqua Jet was so disproportionately buffed in the tera trailer
They are now going through moves individually to find out what moves are affected by this. So far the only moves found on this:
Nuzzle
Astonish
Acid Spray.
placid junco
nuzzle that actually does damage sounds kinda scary
crimson moat
Yeah Tera effectively triples its damage before the regular tera buff
Moves deconfirmed from this in the actual game:
Aqua Jet
Feint
Population Bomb
Oh god someone brought up that it probably stacks with Technician
Base 120 Power Acid Spray
TOXTRICITY CAN DO THIS WITH BOTH ACID SPRAY AND NUZZLE
It's a gimmick, but that's actually a sweat moment
bleak pine
Acid Spray is super cool
crimson moat
So additional random bullshit that the devs probably forgot to code out may just super buff a poke
bleak pine
I love debuffing moves, and this is a pretty nice one.
crimson moat
God this game is so unpolished
bleak pine
A shame that Mystical Fire isn't a widely-learned move now since it's not an available TM, though
Though, some things like Chilling Water are alright
crimson moat
Looking at some of the other stuff posted on that smogon thread
Order Up still gets a boost when failing the move due to Fairy-type, side target of Tatsugiri, attacking an empty partner slot, or vs Protect (not captured here, but you can find it in any VGC video).
Order up still buffs against Protect
bleak pine
Innnnnteresting
crimson moat
If you tera a pokemon and then send in a pokemon with Illusion to appear as that Tera'd pokemon, the opponent has full knowledge it is an Illusion pokemon
Jet Punch is boosted by Sheer Force
Armor Tail can block Prankster Perish Song, but not Prankster Haze
Last Respects caps at 5050 base power
Supreme Overlord does not buff by 1.2 on the first KO. only 1.1 (They are going back and forth on this)
Covert Cloak does not stop trapping moves like Whirlpool, but does stop Salt Cure's residual damage
Good as Gold blocks Ghost-Curse, but Purifying Salt ironically does not
sharp kernel
Order up still buffs against Protect
Based on the description of the move, this looks intended btw
crimson moat
that's stupid
Dondozo's mechanics in general feel so freakin untested
It's not gonna bust the game, but it does not look like something that passed Integrative Testing
sharp kernel
It seems to act as 2 separate moves in one which would make sense for the gimmick. Dondozo attacks, Tatsugiri buffs it’s attack which as a result buffs dondozo’s
crimson moat
Which then brings up the fact that this still applies after Tatsugiri faints
sharp kernel
Yeah but that brings up a different discussion in the whole toxic orb endure strat
That part is the more egregious part of the dondozo Tatsugiri pairing
They’re meant to be a pair, but the strat shines best when Tatsugiri dies lol
That’s stupid
crimson moat
Tatsugiri faints and the stat boost is not only kept but Order Up does not change at all
sharp kernel
Also like, if that strat didn’t exist the pair would still be strong
Choice scarf Tatsugiri can clean up what dondozo can’t
crimson moat
Tatsugiri didn't faint, it's just clipping through the ground like trainer number 11
latent sleet
killed tatsugiri before the guy could drop dondozo
he used endure and was killed by the toxic orb
wait no black sludge
bleak pine
Debating if Covert Cloak would be a nice option for mons that have Magic Bounce
Would make them reflect status moves, and nullify attacks that have additional effects.
sand forge
Is Covert Cloak a Paradox Pokémon
bleak pine
Nah
It's a held item.
Holding it allows the holder to nullify the additional effects of attacking moves (Such as Mystical Fire, Mud-Slap, Nuzzle, etc.)
latent sleet
damn salt cure hurts
pseudo goblet
young magnet
"Do not be afraid"
bleak pine
Flofloflogres
golden lance
aaand burgh sweeps my entire team with leavany
and my only possible encounter left is uhh
full odds shiny eevee
bleak pine
ouch
long stone
"Do not be afraid"
yo what paradox mon is that, looks sick.
||jk||
golden lance
OH SHIT WAIT
I CAN CATCH A BUTTERFREE
NVM IT'S LOCKED TO THE PINWHEEL FOREST
So uhhh
Guess we'll be shiny hunting today
mighty storm
Im excited to transfer over my PLA shinies once possible
got a shiny baby eevee in PLA
bleak pine
Alright, just as a reminder for me, uh, why was Bulbapedia so hotly debated, again? I remember there being some controversy but I forgot what it was.
harsh path
Something about covering for pedophiles I think?
harsh path
Its depressing I’m kinda unsurprised by this sort of thing
Child predators in communities that tend to have a lot of children in them online I mean
Pokemon, Minecraft, Fortnite and so on
bleak pine
Yurgh.
pseudo goblet
got a shiny baby eevee in PLA
Is it gonna stay as baby or evolve 
mighty storm
could use it on a playthrough team and have it evolve
bleak pine
Eyyyy Ren
My condolences for your loss of Clef
Though there might still be hope yet if there's a seasonal pass coming soon
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Yeah I miss her
pseudo goblet
Wait Clefs wasn’t added to SV??
golden lance
nope
pseudo goblet
But the puffs are
flat sedge
<@358795928389419018> baxcalibur is my new favorite
he's neat for sure
crazy how much people are disrespecting a 600 bst psuedo dragon
random stream
surprised ur not running skeledirge tera fairy
it's on my radar but right now offensive tera is way more fun
tera dragon baxcalibur glaive rush is unreal
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it's probably gonna go
flat sedge
the core part of tera is pretty uncomp
random stream
I heard they might suspect chi yu before tera
flat sedge
not even to speak on how much it raises the cieling of some mons/sets/strategies
lucid moth
cus chi yu is kinda fucking bonkers
tbf so is chien pao
but hitting spdef is just so much better in mons rn
random stream
chi yu is way more nuclear than chien yeah
flat sedge
makes sense mega weavile and mega blacephalon are pretty crazy
lucid moth
chien pao might be my favorite late game sweeper atm
mostly cus i have been using dragapult as primary sweeper
lucid moth
into chien pao with sucker - spinner - sacred/terablast/taunt - sd
i think gholdengo is gross
flat sedge
ive not played too much ou
lucid moth
but its beatable
flat sedge
been playing a lot of aaa
lucid moth
sometimes it comes in to spinblock against great tusk or something but instead it eats an eq and explodes
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when everything lost toxic having a mon that actually has it is v good
flat sedge
im waiting for ou to like settle down a little bit
lucid moth
clodsire is really solid
flat sedge
toxic is such a damn luxury fr
lucid moth
it eats so many offensive spatkers for breakfast
random stream
Yeah the role compression is heat
flat sedge
and people be running these evil sets that in the past were just flat out bad because you got toxiced and did nothing
lucid moth
90% of my love of chien pao is stab ice spinner vs clod
random stream
ngl ive been staying on vs ting lu just to toxic it because that mon is unkillable otherwise
random stream
Yeah it can
lucid moth
crash is broken and i run it on my bax sets
cus its funny
also
cb bax is the truth
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bax 
lucid moth
i wouldnt run anything but cb bax
flat sedge
having a good physical dragon move is actually nuts
random stream
tera dragon is nuts
flat sedge
when the choices are dragon claw or outrage its dire
lucid moth
also we are genuinely missing a lot of strong fairy types naturally atm
so dragon is a spammable move
flat sedge
what do we even have
random stream
most of the time
lucid moth
no clef, no magaerna
flat sedge
like slyveon?
random stream
sylv yeah
lucid moth
sylveon is the bulkiest/best bulk fairy
flat sedge
oh i heard hats nuts
golden lance
tinkaton
random stream
Oh yeah hat is like
lucid moth
scream tail is a fairy type too
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genuinely the best fairy rn
flat sedge
magic bounce is so clean
lucid moth
hatt and scream tail are fake fairy
golden lance
flutter mane was a fairy type 
lucid moth
cus they dont actually eat up ghost or dark types
flat sedge
aaa still hasnt banned flutter yet sigh
random stream
"fairy"
lucid moth
dirge is the best fairy yea cus it can be pure fairy and unaware
with a real bst/stat spread
as i said it is just clef 2.0
flat sedge
i love getting reversaled on any turn with any mon in any interaction
lucid moth
torch song beats substitute mons + lets u set up for a sweep
flat sedge
makes revenge killing the threat a blast
lucid moth
slack off and shadow ball and will o wisp is crazy
random stream
yeah being able to hit subs is real nice
infiltrator pult pull up
especially against bu annihilape
lucid moth
both pult abilities are extremely relevant
flat sedge
isnt fairy dirge alot better than una clef
random stream
Ye it is
flat sedge
in a vacuum atleast
random stream
I love clef but it doesnt have dirge's raw stats
lucid moth
fairy dirge is better than clef yes
it has a much larger stat pool
and while its move pool isnt as expansive
flat sedge
also fire ghost stab
lucid moth
it covers it with role compression
flat sedge
torch song is a brazy move
lucid moth
torch song does half of calm mind for u
and u have recovery and 3 total stabs if u want
and can run status to cover the physical side of things
random stream
I kinda wanna try garganacl too
that mon is insanely fat and salt cure is a bstard
without clef
flat sedge
yooo
lucid moth
but then we get into the same issue as before where tera for defense is just meh
flat sedge
kingambit is so clean
lucid moth
kingambit is both really strong but kinda underwhelming for me
flat sedge
wonder where the mf's saying "evio bisharp" are now
random stream
might get a lot better if they ever reintroduce knock to it
knock over kowtow cleave 
flat sedge
kowtow cleave is very boring
lucid moth
feels like i would rather do annihilape if i want the physical sweeper
golden lance
btw ren have you tested lokix yet?
random stream
iron hands is cool too imo
lucid moth
having a ton of speed control is good
random stream
stupidly fat and hits hard
lucid moth
iron hands is cool but its fucking bad
random stream
yeah its like a ladder hero mon
lucid moth
never seen that mon do anything
bleak pine
Call me weird but I still prefer Hariyama
flat sedge
i will
bleak pine
I'm training less for actual battles and more for raids
Hence why most mons I got don't exactly have the best distributions for link battles.
But dammit they work. Mons like Grimmsnarl, Blissey, Slowbro and the like are still super helpful
random stream
Yeah those are still fine
bleak pine
...I really wish people would stop bringing Azumarill/Robo-Hari and end up just folding as soon as their Belly Drum sweet gets shut down hard cause of a hard-hitting attack.
Part of some strategy I got going on is making sure they don't just get KO'd before that happens
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bleak pine
Youch
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Chi yu is a demon
pseudo goblet
Currently checking what kind past generation Bug was added to SV, Vespiquen is in this too?? Dang
bleak pine
Your inner demons take the form of goldfish?
Venonat finally makes a return
After absolutely nothing after Heartgold/Soulsilver
flat sedge
"resist is a funny term"
bleak pine
Still debating on probability if one uses either Flamethrower or Lava Plume
pseudo goblet
Oooh Forretress hello
random stream
For chi yu?
bleak pine
Flamethrower still only has a 10% chance of landing a burn, whereas Lava Plume is slightly weaker but has a 30% chance
Ye
Well, in general really
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I think theres one set that uses plume but chi yu prefers flamethrower
bleak pine
But doubles might call for Lava Plume.
pseudo goblet
Scizor and Heracross hell ya
bleak pine
Ahh
Yeah, all the cool bugs are here
You can make your own Tokusatsu team
Only thing missing is Ledian but nobody cares about Ledian
I always liked Ledian's design. A shame they took a look at the four armed ladybug that punches stuff and went
"Ah yes, big sp. def. And nothing else."
pseudo goblet
Maybe second run, kinda interested with naming my mon with cake names
bleak pine
Actually wait, can the flaming goldfish also use Heat Wave? Might not be much need for Lava Plume if so
pseudo goblet
Kinda wanna get a… pls check my spelling, Kilowattrel?
That’s the new electric bird right
bleak pine
Ooh, birb
kind vortex
yes
bleak pine
The frigatebird is pretty nice
Would be super cool in team sets designed around rainy weather
Best bros with Pelliper
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Argor
golden lance
shame it's just worse zapdos in almost every aspect
pseudo goblet
shame it's just worse zapdos in almost every aspect
Honorary Team Instinct mascot
golden lance
also ngl, kinda funny how the best snow setter isn't an ice type
random stream
Almost lost to espathra because it lived tera fire flamethrower then started spamming protect stored power
good thing cb baxcalibur has my back
bleak pine
Youch
Yeah the killer Ostrich is very mean
Speed Boost is still a real killer. Not much has changed since Blaziken truly put it to the test.
bleak pine
...I'm gonna miss Blaziken.
golden lance
btw, have ppl figured out yet what's the best tera type for clod?
random stream
honestly Im not sure choccy
bleak pine
If it's Water Absorb I feel you can stick to Ground just fine
random stream
I use fairy but I havent terrad clod yet
its natural typing + water absorb is way too good
pseudo goblet
Any special yellow color cake names that I can give to Kilowattrel? The best ones I got are Lemon, Sponge, Cheese or Tart
random stream
Lemon sounds nice
bleak pine
Only think Clodsire would be vulnerable to at that point is Grass and Ice.
But really, I wouldn't worry about terastalizing Clodsire unless you absolutely have to
golden lance
wait
golden lance
if you need to recharge your tera orb at the pokecenter each time you use it
can you only tera in the e4 once?
pseudo goblet
Lemon it is
pseudo goblet
Still haven’t pick my starters yet, and their names would be the hardest to think of
Right now my team looks like
Starters ???
Clodsire - Eclair
Tinkaton - Shortcake
Lokix - Black
Nacli -Tiramisu
Kilowattrel -Lemon
Definitely gonna get a Fidough - Donut but would be replaced once I know where to find Tinkaton prevo
golden lance
how about naming the fuecoco carrot if you end up choosing it?
pseudo goblet
Mostly towards the cat but my decision isn’t final
random stream
Oh yeah rotom-wash is super good once again @flat sedge
he fell off hard in gen 8 but now he's the goat again
pseudo goblet
And ye cat and duck are the hardest to name… maybe I can take inspiration from Carnaval pastries for the duck but idk the names yet
golden lance
pastel 
pseudo goblet
Coco definitely has the best sync with my team tho not gonna lie, since it doesn’t clash with Black’s type like the other ones
sharp kernel
@polar osprey guts flame orb normal tera fake out hariyama is the murkrow counter bro
/s
bleak pine
Wait, hol' up
What's Murkrow doing?
Is it a Prankster thing?
Cause I wonder why it's Murkrow and not like, Klefki or Grimmsnarl
kind vortex
murkrow gets haze and quash
also tailwind
in doubles, haze in particular has a neat interaction with gholdengo, among its usual uses
bleak pine
Ohhhh, right, yeah that makes sense
kind vortex
quash is also a vicious move in doubles
bleak pine
Haze is super messed up when it comes to nullifying stat increases, so that's a plus
And yeah, Quash is super irritating.
This bird just loves being a jerk
kind vortex
it even gets foul play so it's not complete deadweight offensively
bleak pine
So, what can the other canidates for Prankster do in turn?
bleak pine
I know Grimmnsarl can actually throw a punch that hurts, and Klefki is admittedly pretty hard to harm seriously
kind vortex
grimmsnarl gets parting shot and screens
bleak pine
Oh yeah!
kind vortex
klefki also gets screens, but has steel typing
bleak pine
Parting Shot still feels so weird
lucid moth
this is pretty traditional ho on my end
golden lance
https://pokepast.es/f4812e00bdcc3749
tera elec pult 
kind vortex
grimm/klef also have thunder wave if you're into that
lucid moth
click screen
bleak pine
Ah
lucid moth
or click hazards
bleak pine
...Grimmsnarl is super sick in Raids I realized
lucid moth
and then click moves until they die
bleak pine
Spirit Break and a bunch of prankster stuff is just gravy
lucid moth
my chi-yu is called specs fire blast and ppl will fuck up all the time against it
its really funny
flat sedge
he fell off hard in gen 8 but now he's the goat again
hey, the boy was the goat in tail end of gen 8
and wouldve been ou by usage if the tiers werent locked
bleak pine
...And at the end of this I assume Sableye just doesn't got much going for it compared to the other three?
lucid moth
without mega?
no way
being able to prankster into another ability when the prankster novelty runs out
bleak pine
Still feels like a joke that it ends up with Stall, an ability that has zero practical utility on Sableye whatsoever
kind vortex
sableye also gets quash iirc, but it doesn't do enough compared to murkrow
bleak pine
It would be helpful on something else, but very rarely do you want it to actually go last.
Still feels weird that Sableye is a thing but Mawile isn't
lucid moth
prankster + typing dif
ghost/dark is only weak to fairy and prankster makes a huge difference
intimidate doesnt cut it
sharp kernel
What's Murkrow doing?
It just happens to be perfect into the current meta tbh, come home/dlc that will most likely change
flat sedge
its also only one of 2 priority tailwind-ers left
and talonflame loses badly to fakeout
sleek sky
yeah Murkrow has Prankster but Honchkrow doesn't
golden lance
what a lack of whimsicott does to a mf
flat sedge
whatever you do with honchkrow it would be a fundementally different mon/role
bleak pine
Yeah, it's weird how it works like that
Misdreavus and Mismagius at the least felt very similar.
Not much remains of Murkrow when it evolves
pseudo goblet
Should I try get a new dragon mon to my team
Don’t know how I feel with the new pseudo but it do become a way for me to try the new ice type as well
Baxcalibur is the name right
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baxcali is my new favorite mon of the gen
KURO_4_ withdrew Dragonite!
KURO_4_ sent out Iron Treads!
CARNIVORE has Terastallized into the Dragon-type!
CARNIVORE used Glaive Rush!
It's not very effective...
(The opposing Iron Treads lost 58% of its health!)
The opposing Iron Treads restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
lucid moth
chien pao literally took all his pokemon
i played pretty bad
but it didnt matter
chien pao and pult are perfect partners
random stream
pseudo goblet
Baxcalibur is the name right
Totally gonna name it Iscream, Ice cream cake dragon that screams
Tried my hardest to make the name a bit scary
pseudo goblet
https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-slide-gone-gif-20374120
placid junco
Ngl
I think Clodsire is the only particularly bulky Pokémon I have on my team
Among all the Pokémon I’m rotating
pseudo goblet
What’s your team like?
pseudo goblet
https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-flying-im-out-gif-19521586
Okay good, deviant actually shows the image in discord 😂
placid junco
What’s your team like?
The “A” team is skeledirge, Klawf, Clodsire, brambleghast, farigiraf, with the 6th member kinda undecided
The “B” team is more or less Tinkaton, Lokix, espartha, flamigo, revavroom, and maybe toadscruel
pseudo goblet
Ooof, yeah it and the steel types might be a only tank you got
random stream
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1732643829-h0z0ugjs6a7aepheag5fkyazb38a14qpw clod and rotom for the win
pseudo goblet
Gamefreak still attempting to make tanky ice types? 😂
sharp kernel
Cetitan is actually a decent bulky sweeper
placid junco
Ye
Thick fat goes kinda hard on this though
All of its abilities are quite good
pseudo goblet
Oh it has Thick fat?
pseudo goblet
Okay this things good lmao
sharp kernel
You also tera it ground most of the time
placid junco
Base 170 HP is nothing to sneeze at under any conditions
pseudo goblet
It has earthquake?
placid junco
Yessir