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I attribute that too how not great the menus in SV are
they feel p sluggish to misinputs happen
You think for a Fangame, throwing a bunch of lines into a sort of text dump could provide creativity for writing?
Cause I feel like it could
Kinda depends on context, like it can be a bit of a slog if its too much
Ah, gotcha
Yeah, wanted to make like a Fangame in I guess RPGmaker for Pokémon.
It’s been something I wanted to do for awhile, but I’m still unsure I have what it takes
All I really want out of it is to tell a story that will keep players drawn in, be enjoyable for casual and experienced players… and really, just be much better than Reborn was
So far I got a general idea of what I want to put forward, so I guess a good first step would just be writing a sort of script
I don’t see why not make yourself full lmao
At the very least, Reborn is a super easy bar to clear.
But the number one piece of advice im always told is to just do it, try it and see how it comes to you and how you feel
And then they throw Medicham into a volcano just to have material for a Terminator 2 joke
Cooking while everyone is sleeping is a bit too noisy
Aw, thanks Yoz
Throw everything on a Word Doc and start envisioning where things go, and then sequence it, add/subtract as needed
Hard part so far would be making it relatable to what most people playing fan games would like but also remaining true to the source material
Eventually you can get someone to help edit/poke holes or ask about things and repeat\
Ngl, i had another fangame idea unrelated to my first project, but idk if i could pull it off on a tecnical level
Same, but hopefully I’m capable of learning
Since that, because of plot reasons, the game forces you to use a monotype team
Ah
Heard RPGmaker had some essentials pack that makes it easier to make these kinds of fa games
So i want to have 8 separate encounter tables depending on the type you pick at the beginning
Tis the fate of night crawlers, everyone is sleeping while you re enjoying the night 😔
Truth be told I might be borrowing a few from Yu-Gi-Oh 5D’s for mine
Ooh
Watch out for Ho-oh 
Interesting
||It's dialga i'm more concerned over||
Very modernized setting with only a few natural areas, a lot of intrigue going on, the world is actually a pretty dangerous place, etc
Or celebi
But even such a world can be rife with hope
Wolfey back at 2nd
But dude
Blaziken as some shout-out to Junk Warrior
That would be a sick sort of fakemon regional forme
Pyroar evolution thats a Chimera
So yea, basically, there's a battle royale sort of gimmick going on, all of the major competitors use the "physical leaning types" (aka the gen 3 physiscal types) and the protag gets to use a special leaning type, while getting a eeveelution as a starter, the type you choose to use cannot be changed for the rest of the story
Yeee
Still mad at GF for that one
Eevee as a starter is always a cool thing to do
It's like xd where you can evolve it instantly after the tutorial
XD did right letting this be a thing and giving everyone the same thing, but deciding what you wish to have later
I actually might do just that too, alongside the usual starter
There will be a pretty good reason for such plot wise
Yea, except that here you're forced to make a decision early on due to plot reasons
Ah, hmm!
Also, every other competitor, save for 1, ranges from morally ambiguous to outright psychotic
Oh my
Altho, i'm not sure how much i want to lean into this
Since the "inspiration" is a battle to the death
And the fact that it pulled it off really well and i'm not so sure if i could do the same
That and the fact that it's pokemon, can't be too alienating
And the fact that "being too edgy" is for some reason an absurdly easy pitfall to fall into for a pokemon fangame
And the fact that unlike a 50 episode show, i may not have as much screentime to flesh out everyone
So yea
Honestly might just put this one on the backburner for the time being until i finish my first project, but i should probably just stop rambling now, mb
Some time later sure
First of, didn’t know the yo-yo are literally attached to this evo
Second, Cute

Also just noticed tomorrow is the weekend and the time limit for me to decide Scarlet or Violet are running short

Panic
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love the slither wing
Solo'd my charizard raid
@bleak pine so if you need help ill be using my solo build espathra
used the bread dog for the raid?
This is the point where I’m gonna start dive deep into TCG, isn’t it
I love how pachirisu’s Korean name is patjui, which can be translated as red bean mouse
Unless he nicknamed them and didn’t nickname some of them 
Since gardevoir’s name is just guardian
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Not gonna line, Pawmi line has grown on me
Not sure about the middle one
I despise the line
The charizard raid is such a letdown damn
He doesn't cleanse himself like 6 star raids do so you just put him on perma -6 in everything and it's as easy as a 5 star raid
Wtf
Yeaaa, Deviants
Still having no luck getting on a raid against Charizard... sigh.
I'm starting to think the raids aren't even guaranteed, this is a new set of places to do such things in and none of them are Charizard.
pachi is back to being the only mon with follow me so...
not even your own?
are you connected online? it should be the black glowing crystal (the one with the event glow but black)
Yep, I'm online
ooo
Watch people misconstrue this as “yOu cAn WiN wiTh anY pOkEMaNs”
But I see nothing of the sort on the map. Plenty of event raids though, just nothing that could be Charizard
Nope
I have not done such a thing yet and I'm having the worst luck searching for others doing such raids to find a group
weird
Pachirisu becoming queen of vgc once again
And her trusty Garchomp too
fun fact: garganacl, despite being a defensive rock type, has managed to be OU in both singles and doubles
Maushold: "And I took that personally"
wait does maushold also get it? XD
Oh right tandemaus is pretty good
Maushold gets the entire vgc pachi set except nuzzle
There's no news that something is up, so I'm assuming I have really bad luck to not even find such a den in the first place
Maushold also gets T Wave too, so it trades off a worse paralyze for quite a bit more speed
Not like Nuzzle really does that much damage in the first place, so it's reasonable enough
I guess it depends now if friend guard or volt absorb are better for support
Well the big differences are that Nuzzle can't be prevented by Taunt and Nuzzle is 100 accuracy
You probably won’t run follow me technician Maushold
And the berry ability seems decent
I'd say Friend guard
Or follow me on this one: you run both on your team and trip over yourself 
For what Maushold can run for support:
Follow Me
Helping Hand
Super Fang
Encore
Protect
Rain Dance
Sunny Day
T Wave
Taunt
Switcheroo
also did wolfey get any progress with his team
Yeah the mouse family worship the weather gods
got bored of watching him and dipped out of the stream
wait they can run weather stuff?
why the rats specifically
cult of rrats
Also I took a quick look at the end of Wolfey's stream to see how he did to answer that question
He made Master Ball Tier, but W/L was 28 wins, 12 losses
eh could be worse
He probably can make #1 eventually
On the bright side it seems the event raids that aren't Charizard still give good rewards
Florges is pretty easy to take on assuming you can exploit it's lack of mixed options.
Nah, it's more that I can't friggin' find the raids for Charizard
Also just looking quickly through comments, another Dondozo strat popped up in his stream
Instead of using Toxic Orb to KO Tatsugiri, someone was using a Perish Song team
a bit risky
...Also holy crap I actually ended up completing the Paldean 'dex
im halway-ish through
And I got...
||...A Beast Ball. What.||
||Guess I gotta visit Jacq for the real reward||
||I really gotta wonder why they keep giving us these things when there isn't any sort of Ultra Beast to even use this with.||
||The whole 'low capture rate' description just implies that there's really nothing effective to use this with.||
||Was like this in Sword/Shield too, given how the few Ultra Beasts you can encounter were a part of Max Raid Battles, so you were guaranteed to nail a capture anyways||
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trying to make him a tanky damage dealer
wait its actually a girl
Smh no Clive profile pic
i wonder who clive is
Just a normal excessively handsome student
Isn't it obvious?
The masked royal obviously!
Cassiopeia obviously
it's jigglypuff seen from above
Alright, do 6* raid dens look different on the map?
supposedly they're black
Ah. Well, I'm out of luck cause nothing on the map looks like such a thing
still haven't unlocked them, been busy the last couple days and still working on building some mons
Even after the news that dangerous raid dens are sprouting up I'm not seeing any
you need to be sufficiently far in the post game
and done at least ten 5* raids
the first alert you get is for 5* raids
Ah.
...I guess I gotta get busy
I don't think i did enough 5* ones then
Might as well hit up the portal and see if anyone needs help
I'll report back once I see something different
Also wow, 5* raids give so much good rewards
All this XP candy is gonna be nice to have
The Maushold follow me set is oppressive rn, because there’s not enough damage out there, especially in the lead role in doubles, so it can actually take a hit or 2
Maushold be like: "Go home and be a family man!"
After watching Wolfey yesterday, I’m convinced half the ranked ladder is memeing
So I need to get my team ready asap
Personally don't do VGC myself
Just like bringing out the best of mons
And I don't mind letting others borrow mine either
I think that’s why I prefer vgc over singles tbh, you can bring out a specific Pokémon you love that’s not necessarily meta, if you build around it
Same here. I just don't really like the whole tier setups a lot of other places have
Nothing against them, really. Just not a fan.
Ok, Grimmsnarl
Really friggin good in raid battles
The deal on having a whole mess of utility moves and Spirit Break means most mons that just rely on special attacks can't do much back
Easily the favorite of mine from scarlet/violet
God Wolfey loves throwing when he’s 1 win away from rank 1
“I had so many things to worry about turn 1, that’s why I didn’t final gambit the grimmsnarl” meanwhile the grimmsnarl is the only thing that can fuck him
wdym this is a ground type
Are you available rn? Id be down to invite you into one of my Zrd rids
Oh, most certainly!
I'm free for now!
It’s really amazing to me how much he’s misplayed so badly with the best final gambit pokemon we’ve ever gotten
And kk gimme a few and Ill get ready for ya!
I'll bring my Grimmsnarl for the event!
Kk, sounds good.
How long has he streamed this for?
Because he’s probably doing it for content and YouTube
Eh this way he can say he had trouble getting to rank 1
Tbf, idt his team is real
I think there’s good thoughts in it
But idt the combination works
He's had multiple wins at Rank 2 and without getting 1
just got the information that raid charizard uses ||Fire Blast, Hurricane, Dragon Pulse and Focus Blast||
gonna mark it as a spoiler if you want to go blind
raid spoilers
||it also knows more than four moves; I remember off the top of my head Overheat||
||oh wow, almost zero coverage||
All special no Steel moves
Overheat, Fire Blast, Tera Blast, Sunny Day, Hurricane, D Pulse, Focus Miss
It actually begins the battle with Overheat
We just saw that poor Corviknight get immolated
And it immediately removes the debuff to
Yeah, a lot of these 7* raids might need some strategy to overcome, though not to the absurd degree Sword/Shield max raids usually had
Grimmsnarl and Yoz's bread doggo were pretty great there
Some other mons like Florges, Azumaril and ||Iron Valiant|| are also top picks.
Though, ||You might be in some trouble if Charizard actually lands a hit with Hurricane against robogallade||
I actually had Misty Terrain ready just in case, but it turned out we didn't exactly need it when 3/4ths of our raiding party was a fairy type
was gonna try to use gardevoir with reflect/light screen
Light Screen is super helpful
shes also fire tera type which can help 
There’s the Wolfey throw. Man had tera grass Tatsugiri specifically for amoongus, and man thinks it’s a good idea not to tera
Got to love it
Wow his opponent forfeited
He got it
Part of me is wondering how well I can make Charizard work in sunlight team sets
Rank 1 has been got
Only other mon that has Solar Power is, well, Sunflora.
Oh right, Tropius has it too
...Man, Tropius was just weirdl
I remember seeing this grassy brontosaurus.
And I felt like I lost my mind when I realized this thing can fly
...I really need to have HOME connectivity soon. My boxes are already almost all filled up
Alright, seems I've done enough raids to get the prompt for 6* ones
Alright, seems that's all it takes: Doing a bunch of post-game stuff and then raiding a whole bunch
I got a feeling these kinds of raids are the ones you can actually get mons with hidden abilities from, so I'm gonna have to keep an eye out for them
Other thing I'm noticing is that most mons with mixed movesets are way harder to challenge than ones who just stick to either physical or special attacks
Says a whole bunch when a Slowbro is a lot harder an opponent than a Garchomp
And somewhere Ducky is cheering
Speaking of Slowbro, I ought to get around to training one up.
And maybe Slowking too
do auto battles give you ev?
nope
fuck
Auto battles are nice for getting materials, but yeah, doing them manually is much better in the long run.
auto battles are fine if you value the speed and the fact you don't get evs from them
not getting evs is good since you can have your mon do it without needing to worry about screwing up your setup, assuming you haven't finished ev training them
now that you’re saying that
I'm gonna be rolling in nuggets by the time this event ends
For reals
oooooh boy a 6* Ditto
And it's a Dragon type too, ooh
...Annnd the host just has a Magikarp as their mon
Nope
Also jeezy creezy, this Charizard is friggin' fast.
I can't even get the screen for moves up before it launches an overheat
Curious to see if Mud-Slap would be pretty good in some raid battles.
It's an attack move that always reduces accuracy, so it bypasses the shields they throw up. A few reductions means they might struggle to even land a hit in most cases.
Of course, it is a very weaksauce move, and there's barely anything that can make it hurt, so it's very subjective
thats because rewards are apparently better if you lose as non host than win
iirc
this is a good thing
no, it's because ditto transforms into magikarp
ah
so what should happen is, ditto transforms into host mon, then the other three just bring shit to wail on it
Agreed
i thought he was gonna be normal jerk character
but man i was wrong
this man is the best thing gamefreak did in years
the writing in this game is honestly great
Looking forward on the writeup, but my first question since I don't know calcs that well for this format, how significant is Safety Goggles on Armor?
Uhh... I didnt notice tbh
I'll let the writeup help me understand, but my biggest concern is lack of flying coverage down to just Rock Slide. I feel like Flamigo is a problem, as is possibly Annihilape.
does anyone have a non-NA region ditto they could trade me in SV, please?
The idea of this team is to be able to consistently beat Dondozo teams, hard trick room Torkoal and be decent going into Rain and most general strats. Team takes it rather slow but I value the consistency and ability to force opponents into akward gamestates with Sleep and my speed control. Most of the EVs spreads were either taken from other teams or are generalist builds. Definitely entirely happy with the build but it shows some promise. If I can plug a few holes and make some more tweaks I think I'd be satisfied. Breaking down the team:
Ttar w/ Life Orb Tera Rock - One of our main hitters that can also make reads and set up using DDance. Our primary Flying coverage with Rock Slide and Crunch hits things like Farigiraf. Often time leading Ttar Armarouge is a solid lead to put pressure on the opponent.
Armarouge w/ Goggles (Need to fix) Tera Grass - One of the stars of the show. Being able to T1 Tera into Grass while being immune to Spore feels excellent all the while you can either go for TR to help us outspeed the opponent or either hit the opponent hard with Spread/Solo targeting moves.
Amoonguss w/ Wiki Tera Dark - The demon of TR itself, even outside of TR being able to tabk and cause mons to Sleep feels great. Pollen Puff can also help keep its partner healthy. Dark also helps dodge Psychic moves and stay in the game.
Volcarona w/ Choice Scarf Tera Fire - The ability to nuke the opponent's stuff or set up a tailwind that isnt reliant on Prankster. It doesnt outspeed Max speed Scarfed Annihilape so thats something I have to tinker with.
Murkrow w/ Covert Cloak Tera Dark - Tailwind setter and Hazer for Dondozo strats. Additionally the ability to Taunt is helpful vs opposing Amoonguss or TR setters.
Gastrodon w/ Leftovers Tera Water - Here to finish off the Fire Water Grass core the team kinda has. Bulky slug boi
@crimson moat
Assault Vest is what I got so far
Just giving it Dragon Pulse, Dark Pulse, Earth Power and Tera Beam.
And the piece du resistonce, having it be Electric Type as its tera type
if you save your game after eating a sandwich, will the effects be retained if you reset?
Unsure, hmm
You can probably give it another move other than Earth Power but that's what I got so far
i guess my tyranitar kinda covers ground types with earthquake
It's pretty clear they intended Nemona to be the capstone of that route
ye, but if you're gonna brand someone as the 'top champion', at least put more effort into their team
at the very least, give the comp a bit of cohesion
I still think at the very least she should have lead with Glimmora and finished with Kingambit
glimmora woudl have mad ea much better lead, or at least not the ace mon if they must
Also, the fact that 4/5 of her mons are weak to Skeledirge is EMBARRASSING
4 of the mons in my party right now have a fairy weakness lmao
i won't hold that one against her necessarily
but just put some more thought into the team itself
Kingambit makes a much cooler ace than glimmora
like you said, glimmora lead, kingambit ace would have made a lot more sense
Imo she should have lead with Glimmora and then used stuff like killowattrel and lycanroc to roar/whirlwind you to taking toxic damage
Whoops
If you leave your game on the Home Screen it stops the timer
Idk about saving
I like how Nemona complements you on a crit from Flower Trick lmao
Also, glimmora is a better Pokémon than kingambit, kingambit only looks aesthetically more like an ace
Kingambit also has a more fitting "final boss" ability
the issue with those two specifically is how they're used in the fight
Supreme Overlord when the rest of the team is dead
glimmora is a pretty underwhelming ace, despite its high sp atk
but has plenty of things going for it to make it a neat lead
The big stat boost from Supreme Overlord would have been spooky
and having an opponent actually take full advantage of supreme overlord would have been neat as well
Make Geeta's ace Kingambit and then change Giacomo to rock type
Okay yeah I might actually wipe to Nemona tho
The only reason they even use Rock for Geeta is that it's the only type not used by the gyms, elite 4, or team star
She's like 3 levels higher than everything but my Quaqaval
Sure, but that’s more of an issue of the base games not actually representing a comp environment. If that glimmora was an Assault Vest Glimmora with flying tera, now you got a beast of an ace
As opposed to an expert belt kingambit which is prob its best item
I might they really should have given her team hold items
they don't typically do held items for the first run of an elite four/champion iirc
Just make Giacomo a throwaway psuedo gym leader for rock and free up Geeta for Dark/Kingambit
would have made things a bit more interesting, though
i think only a few trainers in the game actually use held items, and they're mainly randoms
Yeah there's like all of 3-4
It's not like it matters for Giacomo's team anyways, the car is the only thing relevant on the in-game team
And 2 of them are just berries
Okay yeah I'm down to my last mon, this fight is way better
I think the biggest oversight in terms of difficulty was
- Flamigo being so readily available
- The starters being too good for the first time in a while
I boxed my starter at the beginning of my run and had a hell of an uphill climb
flamigo was a backbreaker, yeah
Skeledirge is fucking nuts, yeah
I think the biggest oversight in difficulty tho is the lack of scaling
mentioned it pretty much at the start, that thing being available as early as it was was a mistake
Even then though, there’s gyms that kicked my ass completely. iono and tulip come to mind
I feel like Iono was really the only gym that had any real challenge to it tbh
The way the gyms used Tera was embarrassing
iono was probably my favorite overall gym fight, yeah
i like larry just a little more as a character but iono's fight was better
The Nemona fight felt good. My team got swept other than starter and I finished it with a Tera
Larry was the second best
Getting stab on the facade can kill a mon
i was overleveled when i fought larry so it wasn’t hard
third favorite was probably ryme, because the main story needs more doubles and hers wasn't awful
Larry is such a relatable guy
Rhyme deserved better
Can't believe they didn't give her Houndstone last respects
Polish this same concept a bit more, tighten up the list of available Pokémon early just a bit more (grass and bug gyms were jokes due to the available Pokémon), give us a similar 3 path concept, and write more characters like Arven and Gen 10 might be universally loved
The 3 paths line works well
Arven in general seems to be the clear highlight. Team Star is kinda like the standard of what a villain team should be at this point, if even they should flesh it out more.
The gym storyline is kinda just
there
Probably one of the best things they did, it didn’t feel homogenous like “well finished 1 gym now on to the next one”, it was more of let me see what I got available to do on the map
Yeah having the path stuff is kinda cool
And let me go try it
The biggest problem with 3 paths is that they don't have any progression flow other than the one they want you to do
despite hiding levels on certain bosses to begin with
Anyone want to help me name my team?
For what it’s worth, who the hell knew the titans would be the most important thing to do
We’re so used to the gyms or the villain team being that
What should I name my fuecoco
i just saw that roost is 5 PP now
All recovery moves are
this hurts my Corviknight build
"Stall is fucking dead"
~ Normies
The new stall is substitute, protect on your leftover Pokémon
aka dondozo
But yeah the other thing they need to improve are gyms
Yeah the fact there's not a coherent level scaling or even a correct path told to you is sad
they are very predictable
The leaders? The only bad part is that they used Tera type in probably the most boring way possible
The gyms themselves? Hit or miss, and usually very miss
Yeah I wish they had Teraed off type
Gyms as a concept feels outdated, but idk what you could replace it with
The Iono gym challenge is funny and that's about it
There's really a laughable amount of required trainer battles and most are stupid easy
The first gym's puzzle is literally broken
What would be cool though is if they gave you an option to do a singles storyline or a doubles storyline
Man imagine if they gave you an option of picking doubles starters
The first gym's puzzle can softlock
It can fly you out of the area
And at most stable, is boring af
SwSh had this problem too
Quite frankly Raihan's gym just being a gauntlet of different weather battles actually stood out in that set
SwSh's gym challenges were also mostly crap
What I don't get is that all the gym buildings are huge
I think a big change to gyms that would be good was strategy over type
why they did it in SM and USUM was rather fun
ie. Stargazer Colosseum style from Battle Rev
Even most of SM's weren't that great. They never have but gens 8 and 9 specifically had awful gyms
SM had photobomb hiker
But yeah, still bad
No gen had a set that was good start to finish unless you treated ones in earlier gens as "yeah this platforming puzzle is the standard"
Maaaan, Spirit Break is just super good in raids
To which then BW2 was the best set
BW2 is the best set of gyms simply from visual and having unique OST
even gen1 had some bad ones
Honestly, the idea of making outright sequels to certain games is already very cool
The idea of just taking a game and just doing some touch-ups has worn out its welcome
I especially hate how much BS Lt. Surge's puzzle was
We saw what happened with Platinum, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, and of course, Brilliant Diamond/Sparkling Pearl
Yeah, it's not the best mon for utility but the option is nice.
Isn't bw2 one of the worst performing mainline series games in terms of sales? I think only emerald and crystal are behind it
we are never getting sequel games again
Nah, Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon was
Yeah cuz it released a year after the next console
BW2 released on the DS a full year after the 3DS came out
just checked, USUM sold more than bw2
The combination of releasing when the Switch was brand new, on top of there just being literally Sun/Moon, but with a slightly different storyline was the kicker
...Really?
Wow
SwSh would have been the next BW2 if they kept it on 3DS instead of trying to jump gun to the switch
BW1 and BW2 are some of my favourite Pokemon games alongside with HGSS and XY
And the worst part? It worked and sold incredibly well on switch\
They hastily jumped consoles and got rewarded for it
they always do
In any case, third versions as history has shown don't exactly catch the eye all that much at market
Pokemon sells really well no matter what
Happened with Crystal, happened with Emerald, and so on and so forth
Pokemon sells regardless of quality and the biggest markets are the latest console and nostalgiagrabbing
BW2 had a lot of legit improvement over BW1 but they dragged their asses getting to that point
Yeaaa Nanu
They learned this and decided not to repeat it for SwSh when they finally caught up to the fact that the switch was selling well
looking at the raw numbers gen 5 is the worst performing generation for investors so we are probably never getting anything like that again
Which is depressing
releasing dogshit on schedule brings in more money
A lot of it boiled down to how drastically different it was.
then they were in so hurry to release SV that there are bugs and glitches
If you played Red/Blue, and then played Black/White, it definitely would have felt like a drastically different game
come think of it they releases BDSP, PLA and SV all this year
Problem with the series, and as much as I love S/V, is basically put, they literally cannot slow down
Like part of the reason SwSh was in such a haphazard state on release was that they were developing it for the 3DS because the higher ups at Pokemon Company believed the Switch wouldn't do well
Delaying such a big game would also mean delaying many, many other things.
staying true to the formula works much better for getting them money
for example
Including such media like the Animated series, TCG, Merch, and many other things
Yeah now we are at a point where the anime is dragging its legs too
XY was good. Or at least, it was a practical haven for many who were into battling
Journeys has been mostly Vrains-tier production and is the first generation of pokemon anime to not line up with the games
From a story standpoint it would have stuck out like a sore thumb compared to Black/White's focus on storytelling
I found XY to be enjoyable ride and Megas were cool
I haven't bothered to watch any of it, but heard word that Project Mew just aired and that was a waste of time too
Being the series leap for their mainline games to full 3D was pretty impressive as well
It didn't try anything different tho
...Eh, not too big a fan of Mega Evolution myself but I'm not gonna go into detail on that
besides gen 1 XY are the most vanilla out of all games
and that works
people like that better
if it works don't break it did work for them for some time
I mean it still is
Main takeaway is, stuff is complicated over at The Pokémon Company's doors.
well yeah casuals and hardcore fans eat it up no matter what
Speaking of gen 1, how everyone feel for LGPE
The 3 paths is an improvement but any other series wouldn't be worshipping the change
still does
Skip
I find Let's Go to be very enjoyable personally
SV sold 10 million copies in 3 days and set a new record for nintendo
it will probably surpass the 5th gen by itself in the next few weeks
LGPE didn't get backlash on account that they announced SwSh at the same time, and made it clear LGPE was intended for Go crowds
I haven't played Let's Go
And then SwSh came out and didn't improve much of anything besides accessibility
if I did I would go with Eevee since I adore Eevee
I miss my Eevee 
I had a roommate who bought LGPE and put it down in 30 minutes because he realized how much more enjoyable actual Pokemon Go was
LPGE was stable\
gen 1 remake with good enough graphics
Dragging a Vanilla Pikachu throughout the whole Ultra sun still left a bad taste for me…
Pikachu for anime, Eevee for life 
It did its job and got the Go community to buy a game and then quickly go back to what they liked more
image of Eevee was face of franchise instead of Pikachu
It was meant for hyper casual
XD gale of darkness did the Eevee thing before it was cool
now we have what, 7?
8
ah right
we would have shit like eevees third stage evos with dual typing
Give me ground type eevee… please, or at least fighting…
Mainly because I like types that can hit a lot of other types
Hell Conquest did the Eevee thing too
Its sad tho
speaking of types, I might not bother with Hydreigon since being 4x weak to fairy seems risky
let's go is the best looking switch Pokemon game
Let's go is quality well above quantity
It looks really good and runs at a stable 60
Yeah, there's not much going for it content wise
It's a game you can run through almost everything in a weekend
But it is supposed to be mobile gamer's first Pokemon game
That, or perhaps maybe Snap New
It's supposed to get people who have only played Go into the main series
Didn’t play Snap, ever
oh yeah Snap New
if you are a casual mobile gamer that only plays around 1-2 hours a day then lets go can last you a while
It's weird that Let's Go was the last game to use Megas
Let's Go also has a really nice shiny hunting system
Although you're locked into gen 1 shinies
It's basically dexnav, but you see them on the overworld
That's like... a bit over a week then
well I might have to get LGPE someday if I see it for good price
For it's target audience, I'd say let's go is pretty good
But I wouldn't pay $60 for it
That's like a nice 2 weeks
yeah
yeah totally not worth full price
save the sheep
And I'm sure a lot of them moved on to other games like SwSh
Let's Go did its job in a very unoffensive way with another game already announced in the working
beep beep it's a sheep
SwSh did not
Definitely not
man farming for tera shards sucks
she safe now
Looking back on SwSh tho, it's funny how much NICER everything looks

Like there's really not much content and the game doesn't look good
sv is a buggy unfinished mess but swsh was just boring as fuck
But it looks leagues better than SV
SV has both improvements and very concerning problems
SwSh just had mostly problems
I also felt no love behind swsh
like
the story everything was just so bland and cookie cutter
I played SwSh for good while but then it started to feel like I was forcing myself to play it so I stopped playing and I couldn't come back to it
That's what happens when you switch consoles mid-development
Tbh, I actually really liked SwSh's approach to gyms
then I traded it in
They didn't want to repeat BW2's sales and it shows
I think the idea of gyms as sporting events is great
And the music and general atmosphere feels really good for the gym battles
i had fun on gyms on swsh
I even like that Hop live streams a couple of the rival battles
it partially paid for SMT5
The gyms in SV feels way worse in comparison
SwSh's only improvements were on fronts of accessibility
But they cut a lot of corners
And the dex, they cut that too
swsh gave a lot of stuff for comp players
SwSh's only improvements were on fronts of accessibility
Yes
DLC was also a good idea in concept but man is Isle of Armor not enough for its share, and the base game not being worth full price didn't help either
yeah well I am not comp player so it didn't really offer anything to me
plus I didn't even like gen8's gimmick
gigantamax was ok at best
MAREEP IS IN SV?! 
If DLC for SV was just
1 leg of story segments added to the base game, ie expanding to 4 paths
THAT would be dope
yup and she is very early
yes
Like the current plan shown for DLC is... ok, but adding a 4th path sounds like it would be too easy and attractive not to do
from current 3 paths I am focusing to Victory Road
is there leaks for sv dlc?
They added both Wooloo and Mareep right?
not wooloo
NO 
Yes, but I'd suggest looking them up outside this chat
there is no Wooloo, only Mareep
I’ve still yet to make these two stand together 
Forgot if SwSh had Mareep honestly
yeah i understand, not good to talk what could be superstition
i don’t think swsh had mareep
the sheep are never reunited
GameFreak why 🙂🔪
there is spoiler thread for SV
not anymore
what happened to it?
it's been 2 weeks it's archived now
I need my SV asap so I can meet my own Clodsire, an image of It is what I need to fill this hole in my heart 😔
ah okay
Gamefreak like sheep but not sheeps 😔
getting Clodsire was priority and it was success
My team has changed so much
Honestly didn't get Geeta's team
Her team is embarrassing
She was apparently a rock specialist but only had 1 rock?
was lackluster
Should have just fully committed
Or let her Tera whatever
She's the champion after all
They could have just added a rock team star member if they really wanted
They gave her Rock Tera because it was the only type left amongst Gym, Elite 4, and Team Star that was already covered
Yeah I know
I'm calling her a specialist because it should have followed that way to match
it just makes her pokemon easier to KO with grass kitty
Yeah, they're laughably bad
at least Nemona has better team
4/5 of her mons die to Skeledirge btw
she dies to literally anything that can setup on espharta
Funny how GF able to make me like Quagsire just by making it laying down lol
And chub 
and the list of mons that can do that is huge because fairy + psychic isn't exactly amazing coverage
Setting up on Espartha
Interestin maneuver
her espartha was built like shit
I get it also has Speed Boost but walking into Opportunist is a funny moment waiting to happen
Ngl, keep seeing the "they can't delay the mainline games because other media neeeds to sell new things" argument
And then i reached the conclusion that's not necessarely true
Sv anime is gonna be late anyway, tcg has the freedom to come up with whatever new mechanic it wants, merch already has 1000+ mons to monetize
What exactly negative happens if the were to get more time on the oven?
they sell less
and it's not like they can't
there's just no reason to as of now
why use more resources to sell just as much if not less than a rushed product
they'd make less money and probably piss off the companies that manufacture the merch
I mean, it you were to delay it last minute to the point were stuff was already made, sure
this is very much true
But if you were to simply already allocate more development time, that becomes a non issue
it does
they rushed SV and it still sold best out of any Switch games
you release less games over time
which means the company sells less merch
and games
it's crazy to think that during this year they had released 3 games and year hasn't even ended
what makes pokemon games sell currently isn't the quality of the games
that's 3 games within 11 months
it's when and where they come out
both BDSP and PLA were January while SV was November
Charizard is almost as much of poster boy of franchise as Pikachu
I don't really mind Charizard all that much, truth be told
it would be nice if Venusaur or Blastoise got some attention as well
It's reputation is rightfully earned, like it or not
oooohh my goodness Charizard the Unrivaled finally nailed a hit with focus blast.
...Not like it did much with so much sp. atk reductions
I am rather interested to see what they will give me in SV when I have my birthday at end of next month
so far my comp team plan is:
Hydreigon, Tyranitar, Armorouge, Corviknight, Rotom (wash) and Breloom
i can't really blame them for milking charizard this much when there are clearly a lot of people who love charizard
I picked Venusaur in XY but that's because I already had fire type as my starter
also I think that I already had 2 fire types in party and I didn't have good grass type
i also used simipour for some reason
your team kinda gets swept by gholdengo
I feel like I only picked Venusaur, cause i had Froakie and I already had a Torchic
is gholdengo that much of a menace?
ohhhh jeez there's a 6* Blissey
yes
That's a looooot of HP
i can see that any team that is dependant on status effects would suffer
for reference
SUPERHERO
I love how flutter mane was so good it got to 40% in like a week
oh palafin is very high
Yeah there's a reason they were pretty quickly banned
also, if you care about tiers, armarouge dropped to UU
not into it
TOTSUGEKI!
ARGH WHY CAN'T I USE LIGHT SCREEN BEFORE CHARIZARD USES OVERHEAT
well that is very MLP name for pokemon
They're cryptids of a sort, hence the name
wow
This is what happens when Misdreavus escapes Little Cup Jail
Look what happened to OU
Jokes aside how is OU
same mess it is each gen?
Currently a mix of new toy syndrome and some straight power creep
With how they tracked the usage rates, UU is in a fucked spot
Powercreep is kinda insane this gen
OU mons like Hatt and Espathra get free shots
Chien pao is basically weavile on steroids
Gholdengo is insane
Spikes garchomp is now a thing
Cyclizar is really good
It's way more bearable now, so 
Mega Weavile is crazy good
what
What?
The new ice dark mon is just weavile but better in every conceivable way
chien pao?
Yea that one
still havent caught the quartet
Don't think you need to let Wezl catch you saying that
why
Reminder that one of the things the day 1 patch did was nerf chi yu and chien pao
Anyways, among current OU: I feel Moushold, Ququav, Bax, and Clod don't belong in the tier
chi yu is a goldfish i love it
Tox as well to an extent
Ngl
A bit sad that my favorite mon got powercrept
But it got powercrept by another version of itself
It's a bit weird to think about
happened with the alolan forms
I was gonna save scum a beast ball capture for the ruinous beasts
Ninetales had a different niche, at least
Baxcalibur does belong I feel
Those stats and that move pool would wreck lower tiers hard
So uubl basically?
Nah I think it is a legit OU threat
Maybe not with Tera
But it should definitelu be OU
Also Clodsire should settle wherever Quagsire settles
And Quaquaval is actually just bad
Drop it to UU or even RU where it belongs

I was definitely off on my prediction of where starters would end up but I'm glad I had Skeledirge much higher than Quack
Btw, can i just say how much i like gen 9's pokedex?
Gen 9 just feels incredibly strong in general tbh
Good characters, good music, good Pokémon
They finally remembered Venonat!
...Sorry, there was a distinctive lack of Venonat GIFs
When was the last time it was native to a region, oras?
If there was like another year ish in the oven to polish performance these would arguably be the best Pokémon games
HGSS
Not even Hoenn had Venonat native to the region
I just think Bax is shit
It was available in Kanto and Johto... and nowhere else
Really would debate good music
Yeah that’s fair
I think most to all gens have good music but this was a gen that didn't click with most music
I do like how most of the open world music was very chill
There are a few solid standout tracks, but I didn't like much
Riding on Koraidon/Miraidon actually changes it up to a more adventurous sounding score
Eh, yeah, it was a thing in Black/White
Gen 5 had variations for both that and seasons
I miss seasons 
I miss seasons except for season-specific items
Visually? Great
Musically? Great
Alternate paths? Locking items behind a date mechanic (The day, not Fire Emblem Fates) is stupid.
Rain not existing in OU is a bit surprising to me
But they also lost a lot of good shit
Paths should be alternative but should still give access to the same or inconsequentially similar stuff
BW2 handles that mostly well with Castelia Sewers
A nice inclusion but ultimately a real pain to play around
its actually pretty weird
i have a feeling its new toy syndrome
cus pelliper is still in
skewda too
rain has players
Don't forget good mon ferro
I feel like part of it will depend on what happens when Ursaluna arrives
If the same notion holds up like what people were thinking prior to PowerCreepGen9
Pelipper is a solid answer to Luna
Well
As long as you don't badswitch into Facade
I keep finding different crazy mons in UU rn lol
But all of Luna's other common choices are resisted or immune
What the hell is Slither Wing doing in there
slither wing kinda ass
There's going to be a UU and UUU tbh
Better than Lokix imo
I don't reasonbly know how we are gonna keep the same tiering structure
lokix is a totally different niche
lokix has insane speed control
first impression + sucker
We need another letter in the alphabet for a tier
Slither also gets First Impression with a higher attack stat
OU
UU
RU
NU
PU
Let's add SU
Sometimes Used (But not all of the time, so you play two copies)
Though I will concede you need Sun support
Isn't that just what the BL is?
Fair
means lokix is always hitting neutral at worst
Tera Dark as well
Maybe if enough BL pokes end up in a tier
BL is usually jus t
jail
It's like Ubers is a jail with a giant prison recreation center
And BL is just the jail part
Yeah Lokix is a surprisingly powerful clean up Mon
You wouldn't believe how sharp Zacian's prison shanks were
agree with quaquaval
that mon is dog ass
and maushold is fr just a meme
also
i think in my heart of hearts
i know
roaring moon is uu or uubl
with tera gone at least
What if Tera ends up as preview?
i think tera is uncompetitive as a whole
and smogon shouldnt restrict it and beat around the bush
Is Saitama Gholdengo?
Nah
Gholdengo is too rich
Also Gholdengo has hair
And emotions
I like to think Quavalval is just one of Blaziken's relatives that keeps getting invited to parties, but isn't too sure how they're related
Aaand i lost all my balls trying to catch a igglybuff
...I just like birds that can kick arse
Lowkey would love to have Blaziken again
If only cause I super want to use both Blaziken and Quavalval in a double battle together
What happened?
The OU split happened and UU still has a lot of stuff
Like gen 9 Nat Dex UU has a lot of stuff from Gen 7 OU, including some of the bans

Pretty sure more than half the Gen 9 Nat Dex OU list is gen 9 pokes
... ok it's not half but a notable amount
Also hilarious that Skeledirge holding up there too
Meowscarada and Quaquaval didn't
Pokemon Company "who?"
I really just want a 600 BST beatstick that isn't a friggin' dragon for once
Hey
ey
and online battles
Man there really is no other streamers besides Wolfey is there?
LP can be gotten by checking raid dens, not necessarily doing raids
Everybody else is still beating the game or shiny hunting
Other ways include battles with other players, selling materials to the TM maker, and a few events in-game
Notably it's one such reward for some stuff you do for Star Street
Oh right, battling mons out in the world that can Terastalize can give LP upon defeating or capturing them
Yep
Be sure to catch as much as you can if it is your birthday
Some mons out and about can have special marks!
You just got the game Choccy?
Outside of the sunflora and the windmill I haven’t had huge glaring performance issues
My main complain is actually the camera
Good for you : )
Oh wait you’re running the rom right?
Correct
Same here. Performance isn't a big issue for me.
I remember I tried running Pokémon pearl (the original) on my windows xp when it first came out
Honestly, as much as the performance can improve, this really is the most fun I got out of a game in the series
And I was playing on 10 fps
I agree with you symph
The game has its flaws, but if they can polish a few of the things, I would be extremely excited for Gen 10
On the good side, i'm getting a pc with better specs on my bday since i don't have to spend that money on college fees anymore
Leggo I suppose!
Alright, gonna ask
What kind of thing could I even do when designing a regional Blaziken that would take inspiration from 5D's Junk Warrior?
Felt like Fire/Steel type would be fitting but I'm unsure what else I could do.
Scarf
Yeah
It has to have a cool scarf
Problem is, unless you're Heatran, Fire/Steel type isn't exactly a flattering type to be. Also assuming it's stat lineup is mostly the same when designed.
Though, I might give it a good few tools to make up for it, like reducing it's base Sp. Atk in exchange for slight modifications to its Atk and Spd stats
Could also learn a few neat Steel-Type moves, like Meteor Mash, Shift Gears and maybe an exclusive move
Really tempted to just have the exclusive named "Scrap Fist", though that might be reaching too hard for the inspiration
make it work like chatter where it does more damage the higher you scream the attack's name
yes
Also, remind me to never speak to a npc that's on a route
Got jebaited by sandwich talk and forced into a battle
Ouch
Ok so
Something funny happened
I was on a flat terrain, but i got stuck in the sliding animation and started going super fast
For like, 4 seconds
Turn on some Eurobeat and enjoy the ride
I’m kinda conflicted but enjoying how hard it is to settle on a team I like for the single player,
Scarlet gonna make me really wish I had multiple save files or accounts set up

