Pokemon

[vagrant steppe]

Honestly gamefreak should just go "yeah all the bugs are an artist choice" and the people who make all the excuses will echo that to deflect criticism

[golden lance]

[vagrant steppe]

I don't even think Gotham Knights was that popular

[golden lance]

Actually the whole article is hilarious

[bleak pine]

I love this game but even I know this is just absurd

Woah

[vagrant steppe]

Also Marvel's Spiderman from last gen had a bigger open world and consistently ran at 60?

Why is Gotham Knights the pick

[vagrant steppe]

Yeah that's because elden ring looks and runs great

They also claim PLA is buggier when PLA runs perfectly fine

[placid junco]

https://twitter.com/scottfalco/status/1597262435458879488?s=61&t=D6dteqceSBy-nN2frcx72A

ScottFalco (@ScottFalco)

What is it with Nintendo games getting these cool mysterious characters and never giving them any backstory or reveal?? They just like disappear at the end of the game

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[outer eagle]

People really out here thinking SV can even remotely be put in the same sentence as Elden Ring

[vagrant steppe]

You can, watch

[placid junco]

Well

“Eden ring is better than SV”

That’s a gross understatement

But it’s not wrong

[vagrant steppe]

"SV look and run a lot worse than Elden Ring, the much more finished game"

See, easy

[outer eagle]

Must be nice to have such a gullible hardcore fanbase that no matter what you do nothing ever matters

[flat fractal]

Same console that ran breath of the wild btw

[vagrant steppe]

Not just BoTW

Nier and Doom Eternal

And Xenoblade 3 which is also open world

[golden lance]

Witcher 3 too

[last musk]

The Devs on twitter were trying to say it's the Xbox series s fault that they couldn't get it to 60 fps

[vagrant steppe]

Oh and Witcher 3

[lucid moth]

mario odyssey looks great too

[vagrant steppe]

True

Odyssey genuinely looks really good

[golden lance]

Forgotten land too

[vagrant steppe]

Hell, even Sonic Frontiers

[placid junco]

Ring fit adventure is also one of my favorite games on the switch graphically

[lucid moth]

launch elden ring had issues but not even remotely as large as sv seems to have

[golden lance]

Low key

[last musk]

Sonic frontiers has pop in issues but they're still no where near as bad as SVs

[placid junco]

It’s not exactly graphically intense but it sticks to it’s style so well

[golden lance]

Arms looks better than SV graphically wise

[lucid moth]

sonic frontiers too yeah

[flat fractal]

Nothing like throwing a pokeball out and getting sub-10 fps, thanks Nintendo

[crimson moat]

Frontiers certainly has problems with render distance but it handles those much better than SV

[vagrant steppe]

I'm honestly at the point where I'd argue this came out worse than cyberpunk

[placid junco]

Arms does everything right except the a,Lunt of content

[flat fractal]

Nah

[placid junco]

Amount*

[flat fractal]

Let’s not get too hasty there lol

[vagrant steppe]

Because at least most of the cyberpunk issues were patched

And the game is $30 now

[flat fractal]

SV performance is terrible but cyberpunk was near unplayable

[placid junco]

SV doesn’t have 6+ years of hype building behind it

[golden lance]

Yea

[crimson moat]

Frontiers has pop-in problems but it doesn't slow down
chug
crash
obliterate itself
while having pop-in issues

[last musk]

*was unplayable

[vagrant steppe]

Depended on the version of cyberpunk yeah

[golden lance]

No man's sky is a more apt comparison

[vagrant steppe]

PS was unplayable, Xbox was just laggy as hell

I guess "better than PS cyberpunk, worse than Xbox" is more accurate

[flat fractal]

I didn’t play PLA but did it also have the feature where if you have a battle, the current surroundings appear in the background of the battle

I think a few of the issues seem to be stemming from this

[vagrant steppe]

Yeah PLA did it much smoother

There's no issues with loading battles or anything in PLA

[golden lance]

Yea pla was smooth as fuck

[crimson moat]

This is very accurate. ARMS on debut had almost no actual content but proofed out how well it could run on the switch and its core gameplay

[flat fractal]

Where Pokémon/NPCS that aren’t supposed to be there are clipping into the battle

[vagrant steppe]

You click an attack and it immediately happens

You throw a ball and it doesn't drop to 10 fps

[last musk]

Again I would absolutely not be surprised if they built SV on arceus engine

[flat fractal]

Oh that reminds me

[placid junco]

Arms is still the single best online multiplayer I’ve seen on the switch

[flat fractal]

The PC box load times

[placid junco]

I’ve never seen it lag once

[last musk]

Which is woefully unequipped to make maps that big

[flat fractal]

Are the worst it has ever been

I’m any mainline game

[vagrant steppe]

If a Pokemon uses a physical attack, it actually goes up to the mon and attacks it

[crimson moat]

ARMS on debut had only classic mode
Day 1 patch had to include multiplayer

[outer eagle]

yeah the PC box load time is a common complaint

[flat fractal]

Even the gameboy shit loaded faster

[vagrant steppe]

Yeah the PC loadtimes are INSANE

It's fucking 2d sprites

How does that happen

[last musk]

Pc load times for what sorry?

[vagrant steppe]

SV

Checking your boxes

[last musk]

Ohhh

I get ya

Yeah those things are probably higher in file size then it should be

[vagrant steppe]

Love having to wait 4 seconds to see if a box is empty or the sprites just didn't load in

[crimson moat]

Also PLA physical attacks fixed the big problem Battle Rev's physical attacks had too

taking fucking forever

[spice rivet]

Also no shiny sprites makes me upsettios

[vagrant steppe]

In Arceus the PC loadtimes are instant, and also mons that are shiny display shiny in you box

[flat fractal]

Battle Rev at least looked hella nice

And didn’t have lazy as fuck battle animations

[vagrant steppe]

Like if you've got a shiny Ponyta in your box in arceus (since one of the early sidequests gives you one), the model is shiny

[placid junco]

It was just dry as a bone in terms of content

[crimson moat]

Battle Rev went overkill on animations but that worked really well for tournament top cuts

[vagrant steppe]

Oh right, Arceus also gives you sidequests and stuff to do in the open world besides just walk around a bland map

[crimson moat]

Bu-but muh raid battles

[placid junco]

Honestly if SV had scaling I’d be even more into wandering around but I worry about becoming overleveled

[vagrant steppe]

There's only a single town, but you can go in every single building, and houses and shops actually expand and change interior based on the side quests

[crimson moat]

(Raid battles are fine, but they need to give you more stuff to do than that)

[vagrant steppe]

Like if you helped a family catch a glameow or whatever, that glameow is in the house from now on

It's also the same one you gave them, people have tested this with mons of varying sizes (another cut feature) or shinies if you gave them a shiny

[crimson moat]

Also I looked up some videos of competitive grinding in this game vs gen 8

[last musk]

The money grind in this game

[crimson moat]

tldr; mostly the same amount of time but the common consensus is that Shard grinding sucks and that alone takes way too much time compared to anything you had to do in gen 8

[last musk]

It hurts

30k max from raids

Ty game freak

[golden lance]

The fact that tera types aren't inheritable via breeding is just disappointing

[placid junco]

I’m just glad I chose scarlet so I get to have shorts

[vagrant steppe]

Yeah shard grinding seems like hell

It's what, 50 shards per Tera?

[golden lance]

Yes

[vagrant steppe]

And you get what, 1-5 shards a raid

[golden lance]

Correct

[vagrant steppe]

And that's provided you're exclusively doing raids of the type you'd want

[sand forge]

wtf

[vagrant steppe]

That's fucking absurd

[outer eagle]

is it consumed in pvp

[crimson moat]

Yeah like the comments were:
Much faster to IV manip
Faster to ability manip
About the same amount of time, but way less user friendly to breed and hatch eggs
Slower to EV train but not that significantly slower
Stupidly slow to grind out shards

[golden lance]

It changes the tera type permanently, if that's what you're asking

[vagrant steppe]

We don't have any of the ev training features anymore do we

[golden lance]

Nope

[crimson moat]

Nope

[vagrant steppe]

God I miss those

[crimson moat]

You gotta do vitamins or wild pokemon

[vagrant steppe]

Super training saved so much time for gen 6 comps

[golden lance]

God forbid we use a feature we introduced in a past gen

[vagrant steppe]

I'd even take the Alola one

[crimson moat]

But you see, that's what makes it unique

[vagrant steppe]

And it wasn't as good

[crimson moat]

/s

[golden lance]

And it also made ev training for singleplayer not a chore

[sand forge]

Can't be more of the same if we cut half the content

[vagrant steppe]

Reminder that's unironically what they said when they cut the bottom screen from SuMo

And replaced it with friend plaza

[golden lance]

Pss

[vagrant steppe]

"But Friend Plaza is a unique new experience"

[outer eagle]

friend plaza

[vagrant steppe]

PSS was great

FUCK friend plaza

[outer eagle]

more like fiend plaza

[vagrant steppe]

I also miss friend safaris, those fucked

[crimson moat]

Friend Plaza
aka
Join Avenue 0.5

[golden lance]

Man, i miss soaring

[vagrant steppe]

Friend Safari had a really high shiny chance, hidden ability chance, and was just kinda fun

[flat fractal]

I was talking to half miss about it earlier, this game is so close to a 10/10 but 1 more year was all it needed to reach that

[vagrant steppe]

Yeah about another year in development to iron out the bugs and put the good features back would have been nice

But I mean there's still issues with stuff like the fact that the open world is really kinda pointless

[flat fractal]

They really keep shooting themselves in the foot by having a set schedule to release these games

[vagrant steppe]

There's nothing to explore or so other than catch Pokemon

[golden lance]

Also, it would be probably be too difficult for gf to include it in a non random encounter based game, but i really want the dex nav back

[vagrant steppe]

There's no like cool caves or towers or anything with secrets inside

No side quests

[crimson moat]

Yeah what they present as a concept is fine, and the fact that they took the PLA formula and implemented it mostly well helps a lot

[vagrant steppe]

Hell, there's not even anything like the korok leaves

[crimson moat]

But they just cut so much shit

[flat fractal]

The post game content is just so laughable bad

I just wanted the bare minimum of a new game+

[vagrant steppe]

Once the novelty of the open world wears off, the world just kinda feels dead

[crimson moat]

They took a cube and cut enough corner to make it look like a sphere

[outer eagle]

no dungeons or worthwhile explorable areas is kinda just SwSh's standard

[golden lance]

I do wonder if removing the house interiors was gf's response to the "swsh only had 1 house interior for every npc" complaint

[vagrant steppe]

You can have a single gym leader rematch each and one E4 rematch ever

After that, get fucked nerd, you paid $60 for this

[golden lance]

Nah, a sphere takes effort to make

They made a dodecahedron

[crimson moat]

They made an Isoball

[sand forge]

Spheres tend to have some level of polish

[vagrant steppe]

Nah I think it's genuinely just being rushed. Notice how almost every house you can enter is literally just the ugly ass menu

What's ESPECIALLY JARRING is talking to an outdoor vendor AND IT POPS UP THE FUCKING MENU

Like bro, they're already modeled, why did they disappear for the sandwich menu

[crimson moat]

They are the sandwich menu

petition for a mod that does that with NPCs

[golden lance]

No no but you see

[crimson moat]

replaces their regular model with their corresponding menu

[golden lance]

The sandwich seller is actually a ditto

He just turned into the menu

[crimson moat]

This would imply creativity

We don't do that here

[outer eagle]

wonder if the people who says they don't care about the "extra extraneous details" will like the game if instead of encountering and catching a pokemon GF just makes it so that you just click on a mon on the screen and it's part of your box

[crimson moat]

idk, ask the LGPE community

[vagrant steppe]

Nah you'd have to straight up cut catching or battling to scare off the casuals

[last musk]

My favourite part is when they spawn you right outside the building you just entered

[outer eagle]

hey at least LGPE needs you to throw a ball

[last musk]

Like literally just drop you there

[outer eagle]

now you just click on a mon and it's yours

[vagrant steppe]

The game could run at 1 fps and have 10 Pokemon and they'd go "it's the best one yet"

[outer eagle]

convenient right

[timid oracle]

it's clear based on issue that SV has that during current era GF has been making and releasing Pokemon games on too quick pace

[last musk]

No walk out the building animation

[placid junco]

SV does so much right but it also so viciously shows how desperately GF needs more time and people

[last musk]

Just plop off you go

[vagrant steppe]

There's next to no animations outside of important characters yeah

[crimson moat]

the whole of pokemon needs more time and people

[vagrant steppe]

I honestly wonder how many are recycled tbh

[placid junco]

Yeah

Except the TCG division I gues

[vagrant steppe]

Also, at this point Nintendo needs to step in and give the franchise to IS or something

[crimson moat]

outside like 1 episode the back half of Journeys was between meh and Vrains-tier

[placid junco]

Idk what’s going on with their end though

[golden lance]

Let's see, the games are unfinished, the anime's pacing is everywhere, the tcg just introduced a shitton of powercreep

[vagrant steppe]

Gamefreak has proven they don't know anything about making a game now

Look at little town hero and the music one too

[crimson moat]

TCG having powercreep is nothing new, but they dumbed down a lot of standards in gen 8

[placid junco]

Little town hero basically got no advertising

[sand forge]

Shit, didn't mean to reply

[golden lance]

Because the 500 lillies incident definitely didn't prove that already

[placid junco]

And was bad

[vagrant steppe]

Tcg powercreep can't be worse than tag team tbf

[golden lance]

Yea

At least lugia isn't adp

[crimson moat]

It isn't and is likely temporary, but Mew VMax and Lugia VStar were pretty dummy power creep

[vagrant steppe]

Yeah they kinda burried little town hero because they knew it was awful

[placid junco]

Yep

[golden lance]

But that's like saying that tear was not zoo

[pseudo goblet]

Sorry for interrupting but, Clodsire hilariously used Double Kick

https://twitter.com/shipaso821/status/1597012895748870144?s=46&t=TmFjy9Bdra6sKDGiiDj2Gg

シパソ (@Shipaso821)

ドオーのにどげり

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Twitter · Nov 27, 2022, 11:42 PM

[vagrant steppe]

Yeah I highly doubt we'll ever see shit as bad as tag team again

[placid junco]

Clodsire is part of SV I will not tolerate criticism of

[crimson moat]

Lugia also seemingly gets nerfed by a damn good amount going into rotation, given it loses Evo Incense and Powerful Colorless Energy

[flat fractal]

Clodsire is dope yes

[golden lance]

Lies

[vagrant steppe]

Even with stuff that didn't break the format, but fucking basics like wailord having 300 HP

[placid junco]

Toedscool is also really funny

[golden lance]

He would've just jumped and manifested a human foot 3 meters away from him

[flat fractal]

I also@find it incredibly funny how the new fairy we got that shoots rocks at corgi knights is terrible vs corviknight

[sand forge]

I wish the "convergent evolution" Pokémon just had a reason to look like the other Pokémon

[crimson moat]

Tag Team was a fundamental disaster yeah

[sand forge]

SeaDiglett is the least bad

[placid junco]

That’s fair yeah

[sand forge]

But why does a mushroom look like a tentacool

[crimson moat]

Expanded is also wack rn but that's mainly from... wow wait that's mainly from a tag team too

[vagrant steppe]

It's also only those two random evolutionary lines

[crimson moat]

Mimigar

[golden lance]

Yea

[crimson moat]

Shadow Rider is the best deck in Expanded and that's primarily from Mimigar giving the user a free turn

[placid junco]

Are their any nonsense evolution methods on the level of runerigus in SV

[golden lance]

Actual no reason to just not call them paldean forms

[vagrant steppe]

You know what I'm really excited to see about SV tbh?

[golden lance]

A lot

[placid junco]

Surely nothing on par with runerigus

[crimson moat]

Even the TCG refers to the full lines by their prefix'd region

like TCG calls it Galarian Runerigus

[vagrant steppe]

What people are saying when the casuals who'll defend it with their life say about the game in a month and new toy syndrome falls off

[sand forge]

Palafin?

[crimson moat]

Palafin yeah

every gen has to have 1 ridiculous evo method

[vagrant steppe]

Pawmo, Palafin, Bramblewhatever, and the beetle all suck

I'm sure there's one in forgetting, but those 4 are kinda awful

[placid junco]

Ah

[sand forge]

Is that not on par with Sylveon

[pseudo goblet]

Wait how does Palafin evolve??

[placid junco]

I know about bramblin and pawmo but not the other two

[sand forge]

Where it's just use the gimmick we added

[pseudo goblet]

What’s the method??

[sand forge]

Like Feebas

[vagrant steppe]

Level 34+, you have to have someone watch your battle in co-op for it to evolve

[pseudo goblet]

Beauty stat? Or scale

[vagrant steppe]

The beetle is the same thing as pawmo

[placid junco]

Okay yeah that makes Bramblin look reasonable

[crimson moat]

Gen 9 is Palafin and Gim Gimmighoul
Gen 8 is Runerigus
Gen 7 is Melmetal
Gen 6 is Malamar
Gen 5 is Hydreigon, among others
Gen 4 is Vespiquen
Gen 3 is Feebas
Gen 2 could probably go with any trade evo held item
Gen 1 is... I'd actually say Moon Stone being finite per game sucked

[vagrant steppe]

Speaking of co-op, the multiplayer is actually kind of incredibly underwhelming

[placid junco]

Can’t you just stand on top of Pokémon centers to make it easy

[sand forge]

Also Palafin's evolution is literally just a heart on its chest

Wait, why Hydreigon

[placid junco]

It takes forever

[golden lance]

Level 64

[flat fractal]

The coin Pokémon

[sand forge]

Ah ok

[vagrant steppe]

Like I was thinking you'd be able to battle beside each other and stuff

[golden lance]

Oh yea

[flat fractal]

Being 999 coins

[golden lance]

Gimmighoul is the worst

[flat fractal]

Is fucking aids

[outer eagle]

Is Hydreigon ridiculous to evolve

[vagrant steppe]

But you can just walk around the same instance of the game

[placid junco]

Also by the time you find Deino you probably have your full team decided

[flat fractal]

No

Just high level

[sand forge]

Trade evos always suck

[pseudo goblet]

Just annoying

[outer eagle]

like, i'd argue things like Shelmet is more ridiculous when it comes to gen 5

[vagrant steppe]

It'd be cool if you could do wild battles as a double battle or something (a feature that's ALREADY IN THE GAME in the titan fights) but there's really no point to the multiplayer

[pseudo goblet]

Team No-Pokémon-friend hands up 🖐️

[polar osprey]

It's not actually that bad

[vagrant steppe]

Other than to evolve Palafin and to get version exclusives

[polar osprey]

Every tower + 2 random chests does it

[placid junco]

I would say probopass and magnezone are the dumbest evolutions in Gen 4

[polar osprey]

And you see every tower in the map

[crimson moat]

Gim Gimmighoul
Owner of the Gimsgale Gimmagome

[placid junco]

Not really difficult

[polar osprey]

And there's a chest in like half the ruins

[pseudo goblet]

Wait why the UFO?

[sand forge]

Gen 7 is also Vikavolt

[placid junco]

You can only evolve them in mount coronet

[vagrant steppe]

For how much they hyped up the multiplayer, it just kinda sucks

[outer eagle]

well gen 4 introduced the concept of needing a location to evolve

[placid junco]

With no indication that that’s a thing

[vagrant steppe]

Don't forget about Crabrawler

[sand forge]

Isn't the Alolan magnetic field in the endgame content

[crimson moat]

I'd say all male combee being fucking useless takes it over location evo

[placid junco]

Nah

[crimson moat]

Location evo is just handled like ass in later gens

[placid junco]

It’s just the literal last area before victory road

[pseudo goblet]

Oh I thought you didn’t like big magnet’s design, sorry

[vagrant steppe]

A mon you can find on the first island that you can't evolve until the last one

[placid junco]

Nah

[outer eagle]

which made Magnezone unavailable in HGSS despite the other 2 evo being in the game

[placid junco]

I love magnezone

[vagrant steppe]

Luckily they fixed these evos in the future by making them stone based

[placid junco]

Don’t forget how the trade + item evolutions were locked behind 16 badges in HGSS

[vagrant steppe]

Crabrawler is just ice stone now

[pseudo goblet]

Excuse me what

[crimson moat]

Like other gender-based evos give you the option of getting something even a bit sub-par with the other gender

[placid junco]

The protector, magmarizer, and electrizer all require rock climb

[crimson moat]

Like Glalie

[vagrant steppe]

Oh I'd argue for gen 1+ that the most annoying evos are trade evos

[placid junco]

Which you get after 16 badges

[crimson moat]

Combee and Salandit?
Yeah fuckem

[flat fractal]

Yo put some respect on my nibba frosslass

[vagrant steppe]

AND THEY FUCKING CUT THE LINK CABLE FROM THIS GAME

[polar osprey]

Nothing will top item + trade evos

Fuck those

[crimson moat]

I'm saying Glalie is the inferior one

[placid junco]

At least rhyperior, electivire and magmortar are cool

[vagrant steppe]

The link cable was so good, why would they cut it

[placid junco]

Porygon has 2 fucking trade + item evos

For some godforsaken reason

[flat fractal]

Wasn’t glalie better cause of megas

[outer eagle]

nah man Trade Evo that needs another specific mon on the other side (like you know, Shelmet) is still more annoying

than just Trade + Item

[vagrant steppe]

They'll sell us the link cable in the dlc for $30

[pseudo goblet]

Eh, Magmortar seems a bit goofy for me

[sand forge]

Electivire is the coolest of the 3

[crimson moat]

maybe if you were a menace who liked refrigerated explosions

[polar osprey]

That one is easier to setup with strangers

[flat fractal]

Magmotor has that ballsack chin or whatever

[placid junco]

Rhyperior was my favorite

[flat fractal]

He was never the move

[outer eagle]

idk asking strangers to trade pokemon with you is already though asf

[sand forge]

Like Haunter with Everstone?

[outer eagle]

asking for a specific mon he might not even have is uhh

[flat fractal]

Oh yeah i forgot about glaceion and leafeon

[outer eagle]

at least things like Scizor and crap can be controlled by you alone

[flat fractal]

Those were kind of annoying too

[crimson moat]

Dusknoir
Hey Dusknoir stop talking shit about Dusknoir
(Dusknoir attacks with Shadow Punch)
See that's what I mean why do you have to talk shit about him

[polar osprey]

Back then we could just use the world trade thingy

[vagrant steppe]

I wish they'd make an in-game trade NPC whose entire purpose was to do trade evos and then trade them back tbh

[pseudo goblet]

Huh, funny how Rhyperior can pretty easily smack down Both of them

[polar osprey]

Which made those very easy

[vagrant steppe]

Like maybe lock them to post game

[polar osprey]

Just get rid of trade evos the way plat did

Or keep them and give us the option of using special items to evolve them too

[vagrant steppe]

Yeah unironically the link cable was the best way to do it

But for some reason they cut the fucking link cable

[crimson moat]

Monkey's paw: It's Mindy

[outer eagle]

one day GF will make something that can only evolve on a full moon of a Thursday under a bridge somewhere in the region, upside down

[polar osprey]

The game is full of forced social features

So it makes sense

[sand forge]

Tyrogue could be the weird Gen 2 evo

[vagrant steppe]

She comes back and she's like "hey I've learned my lesson, I'll do in-game trades for free now"

[golden lance]

Shoutouts to drifloon only being available on fridays

[vagrant steppe]

True. I've already mentioned how disappointing the "multiplayer" is

[polar osprey]

It's only disappointing when it works

Like 1/3 of the time

[flat fractal]

Just wait for when we get a poke that will only evolve with max hatred

[vagrant steppe]

The co-op really just feels like opt in in the world's shittiest mmo

[crimson moat]

Is it multiplayer if I am pressing right on both controllers to go faster?

[outer eagle]

Emerald's Mirage Island is an enigma

[placid junco]

Tyrogue into hitmontop specifically

[polar osprey]

Just stuff it with herbs where is the issue?

[vagrant steppe]

You can't click on your friend in the map to battle them or anything and you can't hop into battles that aren't raids alongside them

[pseudo goblet]

Wait so, have no one mention Wurmple yet?

[placid junco]

Wurmple is just rng

[pseudo goblet]

That hidden stat evolution

[vagrant steppe]

You can just sorta see them walking around

[placid junco]

Wurmple is only weird if you look under the hood

Functionally it’s just rng

[flat fractal]

Do herbs make poke dislike you

[placid junco]

Ye

[vagrant steppe]

"It's so cool you can progress story stuff in the multiplayer"

[flat fractal]

Ah that’s new to me

[vagrant steppe]

Bro have you not played any game made since 2000

[polar osprey]

Hey now, the game also gets 400% more laggy and you get special glitches

[vagrant steppe]

Like it really just feels like a bad mmo you can only play with 3 other players

[outer eagle]

Back in gen 4 the friendship berries didn't reduce your EV by 10, they just set your EV to 100
The more you know

[vagrant steppe]

For how big of a selling point the multiplayer is, it's ass

[polar osprey]

Just play online

Fake out sheer cold

[flat fractal]

Skillful

[vagrant steppe]

True

Can't you do that to friends too

[outer eagle]

needle out here advocating war crimes

[vagrant steppe]

Iirc it all uses the same seed

[flat fractal]

Play someone irl for money

[outer eagle]

link battles are fine iirc

[golden lance]

Link battles work properly

[flat fractal]

And farm that as much as possible before Nintendo releases a patch in 2 years

[golden lance]

Only the battle spot is fucked

[vagrant steppe]

You can do that in the upcoming VGC qualifier

[polar osprey]

They have to patch it before Dec

Right?

[vagrant steppe]

$50 to enter, fake out sheer cold for $500

[outer eagle]

Insert Anakin meme

[polar osprey]

Well

Dnite is already one of the best leads

[outer eagle]

day 1 patch that fixes all the performance issues is coming any time now

[polar osprey]

Everyone will just spam dnite chienpao

[flat fractal]

Please ban Tera

[outer eagle]

ignore that it's week 3

[flat fractal]

And bring back megas

Pls allah

[polar osprey]

Beats like

Everything

And now also sheer cold cheese

Can't believe dnite is finally good

[outer eagle]

you just need Inner Focus Fake Out right

[flat fractal]

It’s population genocide time

[outer eagle]

is Dnite the only one with those functions

[sand forge]

Simply run a Sturdy Pokémon to counter Sheer Cold

[polar osprey]

No

Inner focus is a bonus

It's being used because

Tera normal + band + espeed is beyond fucked

And then pao makes everything have less def for free

[golden lance]

Banded fake out

[polar osprey]

So you just bulldoze the opposing team with espeeds

[vagrant steppe]

Also remember multiscale

You can baton pass to dnite

[polar osprey]

Inner focus is better

[vagrant steppe]

Well shed tail

True

[outer eagle]

Multiscale is not really that great in doubles

[vagrant steppe]

The shed tail stuff is good in singles

[polar osprey]

Mane chi yu is also a common lead that can beat fake out sheer cold

And then there's some people running both with arcanine and bundle in the back for counter picking opposing aggressive cores

There's a lot of defensive leads that are very popular rn too tho the meta is very undefined

[outer eagle]

we don't know the specifics of how the seeds are determined right

[polar osprey]

But if the sheer cold fake out cheese stays people will have to play these hyper aggressive strategies to not get cheesed out

[polar osprey]

Not yet it's been a day, by the end of the week we probably will

[outer eagle]

maybe someone can make shit like Scarf Sheer Cold going 1st or 2nd always hits

[polar osprey]

I don't see anyone seriously testing sheer cold strats tho

I think everyone is just expecting it to be patched soon

[golden lance]

Someone will probably will for the lols and get like, top 32

[flat fractal]

"Unfortunate" doesn't begin to describe my series, this game rewards blind luck and nothing else, I am beyond convinced at this point. After getting completely tooled by scheduling with my opponent changing times on me last minute and refusing to provide confirmation prior to the day of the match as to play times, losing this way somehow felt even worse than I had thought possible. My preparation was superior, my play was superior, and I lost, so I don't see a reason to continue engaging in an activity where what is within my control is overwhelmingly outweighed by what is not.

Me if I get cheesed by sheer code

[outer eagle]

even things like Dynamicpunch and Swagger might be abusable

[vagrant steppe]

I think there's gonna be better secondary effects to abuse the longer it goes without a patch

Someone will take sheer cold in December

But a better player will abuse something like dynamicpunch or maybe metronome

[outer eagle]

Dark Void that always hits both mons

thankfully that's not in the game

[vagrant steppe]

We don't know the metronome numbers yet, do we

[polar osprey]

No that one would probably need months worth of testing

[vagrant steppe]

Someone should test that

Isn't it as simple as have two players try a team of 2 metronome mons

And just see what comes up every time

[polar osprey]

No a lot of shit changes the results

[outer eagle]

it's determined by a lot of things yeah

what order did you move

[pseudo goblet]

Sorry for interrupting (again) https://twitter.com/avhycch3x80kcue/status/1596843938232799234?s=46&t=mTBR72mnqezlcPnze6CgMQ

フキダシコットン『1日1枚‼』 (@avHYCcH3x80KCUE)

なんか混じってるウミトリオ
#ポケモン #Pokémon #イラスト　#ポケモンSV

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Twitter · Nov 27, 2022, 12:30 PM

[outer eagle]

for example

[pseudo goblet]

I can’t get over the fact they look like Tube worms

[outer eagle]

the bigger question is whether or not you can reset the battle seed

without having to restart your game

cuz if you can you can just modify your seed until you get favorable results in every single move order scenario

[golden lance]

Nah

Seed is server side

It's always the same

[outer eagle]

does it rely on the same pokemon
for example

[polar osprey]

It's too much work for something that can and probably will be patched at any moment

[outer eagle]

if i swap this one mon out for another mon with the same exact stats but different ID

[polar osprey]

You just test a normal team and keep a counter for it in mind when building

[vagrant steppe]

It's always the same seed, yeah

Also, if they patch just this, people are gonna be PISSED

[polar osprey]

Seed is only on their end

I'm pretty sure they can patch that without even any updates

It's something you can just silently patch and pretend it never even happened

Everyone was just hitting the 1 in 10 trillion chances all the time

Happens

[pseudo goblet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Cn34P8-tssE?feature=share

Suddenly feeling the process to evolve an eevee to Sylveon isn’t so hard

[kind vortex]

breeding sprigatitos, currently checking whether i get a proper 5iv or a shiny first

the proper 5iv requires me to hit a perfect i don't have yet, so it's actually sort of a challenge

got one with natural jolly before either of the above just now lol

but it's 3iv (not including perfect sp atk) so it'd cost more to get it to 5 than to mint a 5iv

aight, trying a different approach

[latent sleet]

breeding in sv is kinda wack

[kind vortex]

there are ups and downs

just something i'm gonna have to get used to

[pseudo goblet]

https://twitter.com/touyarokii/status/1597131895057584128?s=46&t=mTBR72mnqezlcPnze6CgMQ

Touya! ★ POKEMON S&V TIMEE (@Touyarokii)

I still can’t get over this AAAAAA

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Twitter · Nov 28, 2022, 7:34 AM

Welp… real glad to see these two while my luck in recent banners are simply BAD…

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/zuccnini/status/1597304319539306500?t=Rd9T0KtV0wQxXHjODJ0iJQ&s=19

Zuccnini☃️🦖 (@zuccnini)

Pokemon Scarlet Violet Spoiler //
Clodsire and Friends.

Twitter · Nov 28, 2022, 7:00 PM

[long stone]

I was just joking, don't think you need to ping me for it.

[long stone]

fishe

[vagrant steppe]

Second shiny

Too bad he's awful

[pseudo goblet]

https://twitter.com/avhycch3x80kcue/status/1597206465206718469?s=46&t=mTBR72mnqezlcPnze6CgMQ

フキダシコットン『1日1枚‼』 (@avHYCcH3x80KCUE)

頭に卵を乗せてアチゲータ気分のホゲータ
#ポケモン #Pokémon #イラスト　#ポケモンSV

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Twitter · Nov 28, 2022, 12:31 PM

[sand forge]

Is the Megas fought off Ultra Beasts thing canon

Or just a fan theory

[mighty storm]

spoderman

[long stone]

not a thing at all

that's more then a reach

[sand forge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/5gduow/spoiler_alert_the_world_of_gens_iv_destroyed/

?

Seems like a fan theory to me

[long stone]

you call it a thoery, i call it ppl making shit up

[mighty storm]

Oh no

[long stone]

yeh

what about it

[mighty storm]

Tatsugiri is sus

[bleak pine]

ARGH

[long stone]

sus evolved to live underwater

[sand forge]

Also known as a fan theory?

[bleak pine]

I mean

[long stone]

a theory should have a base to it.

[bleak pine]

There is a slight difference

Only a slight difference

[long stone]

https://youtube.com/shorts/gump7N_eBb4?feature=share

[sharp kernel]

The two universe theory does have a base to it

It’s just uh cherry picked to hell

[long stone]

that part is fine, i mean the part about megas fighting ultra beasts

[sharp kernel]

Oh yeah idk where that comes from

[mighty storm]

The game is so full of bugs that ** major story spoiler** ||the major boss of the game has glitched out text ||

cuz ||robot||

[kind vortex]

I WAS JUST JOKING WHAT THE FUCK

this batch gave me no proper 5iv either, the shiny is 4iv, missing speed but is jolly lmao

so to summarize, i've spent the better part of 4 hours on this, and somehow never got a proper 5iv with just missing sp atk

but i got a full odds shiny first

[vagrant steppe]

Hey at least it's a better shiny than one of my two

Nacli is fine, Spidops sucks

[kind vortex]

it's a fine shiny and i'm gonna use it

but i'm still trying to get proper breeds set up so i can save money later

[vagrant steppe]

Yeah true

I can't even use this Spidops for anything lmao

At least Nacli is viable

Like what can I do with Spidops? Set webs?

[mighty storm]

guys I think a dlc new mon got leaked

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FirtMBrWYAAFGOI?format=jpg&name=medium

what is the gorilla?

[kind vortex]

good question

looks pretty bad on face

silk trap could be interesting, but doesn't seem like enough for what it is

[vagrant steppe]

The zorua/ditto thing is both cute and annoying

[bleak pine]

Huh, that's weird, p sure the records I got had a different picture

Is it different for Scarlet/Violet?

[vagrant steppe]

Will the zorua/ditto fakeout be shiny too?

[bleak pine]

Also, on the subject of books: Do some books in the Academy Library get added depending on your save files?

I have Sword version and Legends: Arceus, and there's two books that seem to go over some events in Galar and a book of lore on Hisui.

[polar osprey]

I got a normal zorua mimicking a shiny so Idts

[vagrant steppe]

Wait what

That's gross as fuck

[polar osprey]

Yes

[vagrant steppe]

Id be pissed

[bleak pine]

Youch.

[polar osprey]

To farm shiny zorua you just use auto battle I think

[bleak pine]

Honestly I'd probably just hatch a bunch of eggs for Zorua

[polar osprey]

It won't hit shinnies that probably applies to zorua hopefully

[bleak pine]

You're out of luck for Ditto though, so good luck with that one

[polar osprey]

Otherwise it will be the single worst shiny to hunt by far

Don't remind me about dittos in this game

I need to find a fucking 0 attack ditto and a 0 speed one

[vagrant steppe]

Also @maiden flax this confirms that sometimes the game rolls something related to a Pokemon twice

Meaning there's 0 reason synchronize doesn't work

[bleak pine]

Still debating what the best kind of mon there is to battle for materials

[vagrant steppe]

You can tell zoruas at least because they run away from you when a mon doesn't

[bleak pine]

Happiny Dust seems to be the best so far, followed by materials dropped by Delibird.

[polar osprey]

We need hyper training for 0 IVs

Every gen it's the same shit I need to hunt a ditto with 0 attack and speed IVs raw

[bleak pine]

Of course, none of this really can compared to the haul you can get for some raid battles, but having LP can't hurt

[kind vortex]

my preferred mechanic would be just to let you set ivs to whatever you want

0, 31, anything in between

[polar osprey]

Yeah

[kind vortex]

lets you play around with off the wall shit if you want as well

[pseudo goblet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/DQqUr4aBA0E?feature=share

[bleak pine]

This Steel-Type Slowbro really makes me want to axe kick a dog through some dry-wall

Alright, so get this: I'm having to do this with the help provided by doing this alone. And my partners are not exactly the best choice for this

Being a steel-type, but having water and psychic-type moves also presents a rub: Any type that would be super-effective against steel-types are weak against water or psychic type moves.

And this friggin' Slowbro uses Yawn in between attacks constantly, so your whole team is going to be asleep unless you use the heal up shout... in which case, Slowbro will just use Yawn again

[polar osprey]

Iron hands with drain punch

If you don't die in 1 hit you never will

[bleak pine]

Ideally I want to do this without doing it with others, but honestly at this point I might just cut my losses and request help

[polar osprey]

If it's not a 6* raid you will probably just 1 shot it

[bleak pine]

I'm making do with Medicham.

It's fine? But honestly, I'm probably gonna see if Raz, Yoz or I guess Argor would be willing to lend a hand

Actually, are raid bosses vulnerable to Imprison?

I might just bring a Slowbro with every attacking move and Imprison it knows if so

Or, well, anything that could learn that and Water Pulse, Liquidation and Zen Headbutt

[kind vortex]

finally got my 5iv

[mighty storm]

it applies

shiny zorua right there

[vagrant steppe]

Third crash: got into a battle and the game put me in a wall during a battle and crashed after

[bleak pine]

...Ah, screw it, I'm just gonna go online and do this battle

No way I'm getting it done with the "Help" I got

Well, I got someone trying to flex with Miraidon, so I guess nothing has truly changed from Sword/Shield

Wait what *the ball is that

Ok well I was gonna use Misty Terrain

But apparently ||Miraidon has some ability that sets Electric Terrain||

So, nobody can fall asleep

[vagrant steppe]

And fourth crash: Throwing a pokeball

Literally just throwing a ball in a battle

[void herald]

are you running this off of an sd card or off of system memory? i've heard running it off of system memory fixes most of the bugs

[vagrant steppe]

It's off the system memory

[void herald]

weird

[vagrant steppe]

The game is just a buggy mess

[timid oracle]

it's clear that game has lot of problems

[vagrant steppe]

3/4 of my crashes have been playing the game as intended

Actually all four have been

The other was the game trying to place my character inside a wall to start a battle

[timid oracle]

problems that could had been avoided if GF hadn't been in such hurry to release it and instead had bigger team and had spend more time to make sure that game is as good as possible

[bleak pine]

Well, screw this noise. If I'm gonna do raids, I might as well have some tech moves since damn near everyone is going all out on offense

Stuff like Haze, Screech, etc.

[kind vortex]

recommend either coordinating or going solo, and if going solo, do your research on good solo mons

doing randoms sounds like a great way to get killed

[bleak pine]

No fooling.

Seems like Slowbro was especially designed to punish the whole big setup strategy

We still won it. (Damn barely)

...Speaking of Slowbro, you mind if I borrow one of you for a moment?

Really wanted to get a Slowking. Mostly cause I like Slowking, but also because it's got some new move exclusive to it

Dunno what it is though, so I'm probably gonna find a real surprise

||One of the guys brought a friggin' cyborg Hariyama. Guessing those are the counterparts to our resident cryptids in Scarlet||

||Truth be told, I'm certain OG Hariyama would work a bit better, since it can have Guts and that whole Belly Drum/Close Combat strat. Slapping a Flame Orb would just be a lot better on firepower I feel||

||..I miss Machamp.||

[polar osprey]

||it all becomes clear if you look at iron hands ability||

[mighty storm]

anyone have a miraidon to touch trade?

[bleak pine]

||...Y'know, when you put it that way I really should just bring a Pincurchin to every raid battle.||

[polar osprey]

||Ok so quark drive boosts its attack by 30% and it already has 20 base attack above hariyama so iron hands is does more damage||

[polar osprey]

||doesn't really matter if they are optimal they will be carrying a booster energy||

[bleak pine]

||That being said, you usually either have to waste another turn using Electric Terrain, or depend on someone else doing it for you. A flame orb+Guts would have less of a cost to get running. I'd argue each have their upsides and downsides||

||...Or that. The Booster Energy.||

||damn robots, they terk ar' jerbs'||

[polar osprey]

||not really, iron hands is also A LOT bulkier||

||10 more base HP, 8 more sp. def and 48 more def||

[sharp kernel]

Assault vest is also viable on it

[polar osprey]

Yes

Love AV hands

[sharp kernel]

Move set is the weird part. CC gets you a lot of Ohko’s but drain punch seems to outperform CC the longer the game goes

Fake out wild charge are musts and then you have room for 1 tech

[polar osprey]

I play ice punch over drain and EV it to outspeed brute bonnet

[kind vortex]

in the context of raids, you take drain punch

bd gives you more than enough power anyway

[sharp kernel]

Oh yeah I forgot about brute bonnet

Want to see the #1 check for why palafin is a gimmick? Hands. Probably best fake out mon rn

[vagrant steppe]

Palafin is mega broken tho

[polar osprey]

Nah

[sharp kernel]

In doubles, palafin is just there

[vagrant steppe]

Oh right, doubles

[polar osprey]

You wanna know how broken AV hands is?

[sharp kernel]

I’m trying to think what checks hands lead, only thing that immediately pops to mind is the obnoxious arcanine/flutter lead

[polar osprey]

it can tank specs flutter mane moonblast without maxed EVs

that's my boy

[sharp kernel]

Yeah it only goes down to 44% without AV iirc

For booster flutter ofc, not specs

[polar osprey]

Yeah I did it for specs bcs I'm seeing more people running HO and then saving booster for bundle

going for either LF or specs on mane then

[sharp kernel]

I figured in general that would happen, people got too caught up on booster before knowing the real boost from it

It’s still solid, but it’s not a must have

[polar osprey]

Booster is much better when it's for speed

so if you have moon or bundle in your team you prioritize them

[sharp kernel]

Yeah, we’ll see where the meta goes. I still think bonnet is probably the most under appreciated paradox. I’ll eventually hop off TR and put him on my team

[mighty storm]

at 175 caught, still a ways to go for the shiny charm

but I did get myself a miraidon

[sharp kernel]

But TR is just so good vs early theory

[polar osprey]

People are all hoping on the HO train

so yes

[polar osprey]

@sharp kernel remember my stupid idea of speedy bonnet with tail wind? That won a 88 man Jp tournament yesterday lmao

[sharp kernel]

Holy

What was the full team?

[spice rivet]

My RR Lugia VStar finally came in 🤩

[kind vortex]

use 'japanese' or 'jp', the term you used is an ethnic slur

[kind vortex]

glimmora seems interesting

[spice rivet]

Cybertron made a vid with it

[maiden flax]

No no, that works differently, the pokemon zorua mimics likely has all the stuff rolled like normal, not just the shiny thing

[kind vortex]

that's not surprising since he makes vids with just about everything

(and he's actually good enough to make just about anything work)

[vagrant steppe]

Larry's gym is where the entire animation budget for this game went wtf

[last musk]

https://twitter.com/_avetato/status/1597299953751429120?t=shj--cxsXbhI1TbiBpZj6A&s=33

ave/arven 🎨 finished pokemon scarlet!! (@_avetato)

had to draw this out #pokemonsv

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Twitter · Nov 28, 2022, 6:42 PM

[flat fractal]

did they buff murkrow

[bleak pine]

Haaaa

Alright, I'm planning on doing a small game with a friend that's only ever known Pokémon through Red/Blue and the first anime series.

And it's a guessing game on giving them a list of mons and having them try to guess their name

Gonna have to see if there's some good material I can use.

[placid junco]

There’s no reward for doing the classes right

[bleak pine]

Nah, not really.

Though, some answers you can give can be very enlightening, or humorous

There will, however be a test!

Better rev up them notes

[placid junco]

Neat

Wow that class list is longer than I’m willing to tolerate for now

[bleak pine]

Yeah, you can choose to attend classes whenever.

[placid junco]

Back to walking my bramblin

[bleak pine]

No real rush if you are pressed for time

Yeaaa tumbleweed

[kind vortex]

they open up side quests, one of them gives you a pokemon you aren't getting anywhere else in the game, and exp candies aren't bad to have more of, so you might as well do them when you find the time

[placid junco]

Ahhh

Well I just walked on foot from the steel Titan area to the main city (trying to evolve Bramblin)

[kind vortex]

apparently you can cheese those by going let's go, then jumping on the roof of a pokemon center

makes the mon run in circles

[placid junco]

Yeah

I just can’t consistently keep them going

Just evolved my timid pawmi now

Er jolly

Found a good looping spot

No wonder people hate this process

[bleak pine]

Pawmi is nice

[vagrant steppe]

All 3 of the tail moves are the exact same animation, but a different color lmao

[bleak pine]

And yeah, it is a little irritating.

Funnily enough, there's only one steel-type that learns Iron Tail

[vagrant steppe]

It's funny to go from Larry's gym, which has a lot of unique animations to that

[bleak pine]

And the only mon that also learns it is

Pikachu

[vagrant steppe]

Oh wait I didn't even see iron tail

[bleak pine]

And at an absurdly early level

[vagrant steppe]

I assume it's the same animation but silver

[bleak pine]

Mostly the same animation, save for some metal stuff going on

Yeah, same as Steel Wing

[vagrant steppe]

Since poison, water, and dragon are the exact same animation

[bleak pine]

Actually, I think it's more akin to Slam

[vagrant steppe]

I think peck is probably my least favorite animation this game, but the tails are surprisingly lazy

[bleak pine]

Slam and Iron Tail has nearly the same animation

Yeah, early attacks aren't too flashy like Peck

[vagrant steppe]

They nerfed Dragapult

[bleak pine]

But it does make sense, you can't exactly make something like Tackle that impressive

[vagrant steppe]

Dragon Darts doesn't have an animation now

Well it does a purple shadow ball

[bleak pine]

Yeet the child

[vagrant steppe]

Why must they hate me

[bleak pine]

Part of me wonders how someone who has only ever known Pokémon from Red/Blue and the Indigo League anime series would react to Pokémon, today

They'd lose their mind at how much things have been shaken up, for sure

[placid junco]

Wow I totally forgot elemental stones exist
So that’s why Capaskid took forever

Done

[mighty storm]

yep capaskid is a fire stone evo

[bleak pine]

That's more of a Take-Down

Or Submission

...I really wish Submission was better

[sand forge]

A tackle can be fierce

Tackle in JP is Body Blow
Take Down is Charge
Submission is Hell Wheel

wtf

[bleak pine]

I love Submissions Japanese name

Someone must have been a fan of Ken Masters

Wished it was better, it's the only Fighting-type move that has recoil damage attached to it, but it's a mere 80 power compared to Double-Edge's 120

Making it have around 100 power would certainly have it being competition for Close Combat. I like Close Combat, but honestly, you're really taking a bit of a risk reducing your defense stats with each use

[sand forge]

Double Edge is Life-Risking Tackle

[bleak pine]

Japanese names are just super cool

[sand forge]

You could still make good animations based on them

[bleak pine]

Thunderbolt? 100,000 Volts
Night Slash? Crossroad Killing

There's a lot more

Ye

[sand forge]

I prefer Thunderbolt there tbh

[bleak pine]

Eh, yeah

[sand forge]

Also, Thunder: not a sound move

[bleak pine]

It's weird, since Thunder- is a common sort of affix for Electric-type moves

And none of them have as much of a boom as they are the big shocky

[sand forge]

Bolt Beak is Electric Shock Beak

Must be lost in translation

[bleak pine]

Bolt Beak was nice

A shame most really don't care about the shocky bird thing when Mr. Fish exists

[sand forge]

Zippy Zap vs Crackling Accel

[maiden flax]

||https://youtube.com/shorts/utNHOMF0hSs?feature=share||

For the 1000 steps pokemon

[latent sleet]

changed my team for the e4

its game time

actually i need to fight the last team star boss

first things first

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/Snoozincopter/status/1597112201034096641?t=IEl26vbAK4X6pTgOp_YyDA&s=19

Snowzincopter (@Snoozincopter)

Before the Nemona is Goku joke gets boring. Quick thing

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Twitter · Nov 28, 2022, 6:16 AM

[timid oracle]

Nemona is my new best girl in Pokemon

[pseudo goblet]

https://twitter.com/dr_bonehead/status/1597444716106481665?s=46&t=qpKSShE_E6wAXx94wQDqgg

Joe Goffeney (@Dr_Bonehead)

Pokémon absolutely NEEDS voice acting in Generation 10.

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Twitter · Nov 29, 2022, 4:17 AM

Yikes

I still haven’t get my game yet but the voice acting does so much for these cutscenes

What’s worse, I can totally see GameFreak make ONE Pokémon mainline game that has Voices, but it’s Gen 1

[crimson moat]

or, make 1 generation with voice acting and call that a unique feature for that region alone

[outer eagle]

I can then make the joke that the region is a democracy cuz everyone has a voice

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/dilfosaur/status/1596377628487081985?t=Nv-C5ho381pmOjnxwrPHcg&s=19

neo-spacian karina rat (@dilfosaur)

me having a picnic with my tandemaus

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Twitter · Nov 26, 2022, 5:37 AM

[crimson moat]

I hate how two of the top responses on that twitter thread about Voice Acting are "I don't want Voice Acting"

Not talking a "There is a clear cost and scheduling reason as to why there is no Voice Acting"
No just
"I don't want Voice Acting because it would sound worse than silence"

[warm sky]

At the least do like fucking

Animal crossing early zelda voice acting

Where it's noises

[lucid moth]

even zelda does that

[last musk]

Okay but tbf

I do not trust Nintendo to hire voice actors

They've shown they're either hiring people who don't fit the roles or give them abysmal directing

[crimson moat]

Honestly, I'd settle for New Pokemon Snap tier VAing

Square Enix is the one I can't trust with Voice Acting Direction

[bleak pine]

I just deleted a raid mon from zero to KO with Stored Power

Just building up with Calm Mind and then nailing them with Stored Power is silly

[void herald]

nintendo has put out games with good voice acting

the xenoblade games have great voice acting

[crimson moat]

... mostly good voice acting

Rex aside

[void herald]

okay yeah other than him

[crimson moat]

No major complaints otherwise yeah

New Pokemon Snap pretty sure just pulls a few VAs from the dubbed anime and that's honestly totally fine

[sharp kernel]

God, that reminds me how horrible square Enix VA is

For reference: https://youtu.be/bXZhTb0eUqA

[placid junco]

Lost to the poison star captain last night
My team is not well prepared for poison types

[obsidian juniper]

i dont get the hate on this scene, this is clearly on purpose, no?

[void herald]

yeah it's on purpose

a lot of the hate for it is from people taking it out of context

[sharp kernel]

Even if I take half of the Tidus scenes from FFX, they’re all pretty cringe

[void herald]

i can't unhear johnny test whenever i listen to tidus

[obsidian juniper]

https://twitter.com/iz39/status/1597411762898628608?t=yMu9nT81aLeOBNXtc2A3fg&s=19

いざなみ (@iz39)

適当にダイナモ持たせたら当然似合った

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Twitter · Nov 29, 2022, 2:06 AM

[sharp kernel]

Idk what it is, I’ve never bothered to look at the VA talent for FF games, but surely they’re not hiring the best they can considering how huge of a company they are (at least for FF games)

The KH games at least have their OG VA’s for Disney characters

[void herald]

i think yuri lowenthal does a pretty good job as marth

[golden lance]

Gotta love how half the comments clearly show that they've never played an rpg with voice acting before

[bleak pine]

Truth be told, Pokémon is one of those series I don't think absolutely needs voice acting

It would be nice all things considered, but not a necessity

[sand forge]

Given the massive amount of money Pokémon brings in, I think we can ask for things that aren't necessities

It's not like they're scrimping to get a passion project out

[spice rivet]

Imo the least they can do is voice acting in line with say, Fire Emblem. Cutscenes fully voiced but convo boxes use a stock voice clip from a variety depending on context.

Also ||Son of a bitch, the reason Finizen evolves into Palafin at level 38 is because the First Action Comics with Superman came out in 1938.||

[timid oracle]

Nintendo and GF aren't willing to spend money needed for Pokemon to have voice acting

[spice rivet]

Unless its a Mobile game lmao

[bleak pine]

I'm beginning to learn that a lot of things do not in fact learn Swords Dance

Argh

[pseudo goblet]

I’m sensing a jab at Pokémon Masters EX

[spice rivet]

Not so much jab, but apologies if it came off that way

Its more just frustration

[pseudo goblet]

Oh no no, it’s nothing like that, sorry

[vagrant steppe]

Everyone already has Canon vas, dunno why they can't do it in the games too

Even if they speak in a fake language

[pseudo goblet]

I doubt Pokémon company not having the money to hire VAs too

[silver vigil]

it's not money, it's time

[pseudo goblet]

Well yeah true

[vagrant steppe]

Yup

[crimson moat]

It's both, moreso in that Pokemon Company does not want to dedicate the time nor money to it.

[pseudo goblet]

Maybe also because they don’t feel the need to change things up a bit? This is just me guessing but Like, it’s been the same voiceless texts for 25+ years and they might think this will still work for another 3 year

[vagrant steppe]

That's how it goes. Gamefreak is so behind and feels like they don't need to take a step forward because people will buy their half finished games anyways

I mean, SV sold 10 million copies in 3 days and that game feels like an alpha

So they're kinda right

[pseudo goblet]

Excuse me- 10 million?

[vagrant steppe]

Yup

For a game that's like objectively unfinished, that's insane

They'll never learn their lesson because they're rewarded for mediocrity, or in this case, an actually bad game

[polar osprey]

Prankster tailwind

Whimsicott and the genies aren't in the game

[flat fractal]

Pog

[last musk]

https://twitter.com/kyuumons/status/1597446879138414592?t=vKwASjHAH-eiQKYCl2Bn7g&s=33

☀️ KYUU 🌙 @ PKMN Violet (@kyuumons)

he's fine. totally fine. #PokemonScarletViolet

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Twitter · Nov 29, 2022, 4:26 AM

[warm sky]

Fuck I had an arven meme but I lost it

https://twitter.com/lliliililillil/status/1597259839633522688?t=x7oBfgk5lRnRuMkNB3aNvA&s=19 have this then

Lil (@lliliililillil)

ｳﾜｰ!!

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Twitter · Nov 28, 2022, 4:03 PM

[golden lance]

Chat

They changed up the shinies

[vagrant steppe]

Those aren't much better

I miss shiny mega gengar

[warm sky]

Unironically

[crimson moat]

Yeah they really should redo shiny colors at some point

[warm sky]

I want shiny gengar to be anime color gengar

https://tenor.com/view/gengar-gengar-pokemon-rise-from-the-ground-gif-23817958

[golden lance]

Idk, black garchomp's kinda cool

[warm sky]

Retroactively make Ash's gengar a shiny

[sharp kernel]

What’s ash’s shiny count after 20 years?

[crimson moat]

1 iirc

[warm sky]

Noctowl be his only one

[placid junco]

legit evolving ||scovillian|| took forever for me because I never expected fire stones to actually be useful for pokemon after gen 5

[pseudo goblet]

Hmm, just a bit better

[long stone]

i still think Gengar is a downgrade design wise from Haunter

[warm sky]

Wrong but hey, not everyone can love my baby

[long stone]

well your baby looks silly af

anyway keep that "wrong" to yourself. What I said was neither a fact nor a question

[warm sky]

I was saying in jest man

[vagrant steppe]

@last musk you weren't kidding about doors holy shit

You don't even respawn in the right spot, you respawn like a few inches above the ground

[last musk]

Yuuuup

[vagrant steppe]

How the fuck did they sell this for $60

[warm sky]

Nintendo

[vagrant steppe]

Nintendo usually expects quality tho

[warm sky]

They refuse to even put shit like dk tropical freeze at under 40

[silver vigil]

nintendo has been offering refunds

I mainly bought them because I can have fun with all the people at locals and 1 purchase really doesn't matter at all here

[golden lance]

Shout outs to it costing a quarter of my monthly wage

[vagrant steppe]

I bought it to play with friends and because I had gift cards to cover the price, so I didn't feel like I was spending money

[warm sky]

Oh right

[vagrant steppe]

But they really did cyberpunk this game

[warm sky]

Video games are MAD EXPENSIVE in Brazil

[golden lance]

Yea

A switch here is 2400$, btw

[warm sky]

Hey it doesn't purposely try to give you seizures

[crimson moat]

only accidentally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z260V_rHu1I

(Seizure warning if it was not obvious)

Comments in this one also meme the greatest cope for these games

"The version of the game you don't have is the one that isn't bugged"

[last musk]

Sooo big bug with scarlet and violet

Losing a tera raid still gives you the rewards if you're not the host

[crimson moat]

Wait...

what

[last musk]

Yuuuup

[warm sky]

Yeah

[crimson moat]

waht

[vagrant steppe]

Oh hey, that makes the hell raids better

[crimson moat]

So you're telling me the easiest way to grind is SV is to purposefully lose raid battles as a non-host

[warm sky]

Yes

Fuck the host

[crimson moat]

Wow

[warm sky]

Just run a single explosion mon

[crimson moat]

I did not know this one

wtf

[warm sky]

I saw it on twitter half an hour ago

[crimson moat]

So the most enjoyable experience as a rando on SwSh online is to literally grief

that's

wow

[golden lance]

Jfc these games get worse every 30 seconds

[crimson moat]

I really thought that the top priority fix was going to be the fixed RNG seed

This contests that

Imagine people find an exploit that allows the AI to act as host

[golden lance]

Kinda crazy when you think about it

Game has a literal bug where fake out sheer cold works 100% of the time but there's something that's somehow worse

[crimson moat]

From what I follow about the fixed RNG seeds, that is thankfully an easy fixed
But some of these problems man

Like it further calls into question QA being done at all

[golden lance]

Man

[crimson moat]

That should be something noticed from testing multiplayer raid battles once at an integrative level

[golden lance]

Imagine if pokemon got the same level of expectations as any other 1st party nintendo game

[crimson moat]

yeah like BOTW's most noticeable glitch is dead guardians falling through the floor

And that required you to use Stasis on them, albeit that is at least moderately common

This is literally losing the game

[vagrant steppe]

Squakabily fixes the thing, meaning it's exclusive to the corviknight line... What the fuck

I hate it so much

This also means that gen 8 will forever be the odd ones out for breaking the pattern

[golden lance]

The thing?

[vagrant steppe]

Rokidee and Corvisquire are the only regional birds, in fact the only non-tornadus Pokemon, that are pure flying

It bothers me so much they're not normal/flying

[golden lance]

Ah

[vagrant steppe]

It's a weird break of tradition and it was fixed this gen with the other new birds

Imo they need a typing fix to have it

[golden lance]

I mean

It's not really that big of a deal tbh

[vagrant steppe]

It's not, but it's a minor thing that's super annoying

Pure flying was reserved for "the literal forces of air" until then

[golden lance]

Ngl

Kinda wish there were more pure flying types

[vagrant steppe]

I'd be cool with more, but not regional birds

They'd need to be like a tornado bird or something

[latent sleet]

also a bit loud

[warm sky]

tbf rise still ain't as pretty as world can be

[sand forge]

Rise was simply disappointing compared to World, imo

[warm sky]

Eh, I think Rise is fine, but I liked GU more

Sunbreak is really good buuuut

I hate some of the shit from frontiers

Like the big OP one shot explosion type bullshit

and the DPS checks

but hey, wrong channel for that

[bleak pine]

Ok

Uh

...Crap, what was its name

[latent sleet]

also is it just me or the pokemons graphics are much better than the open world

[bleak pine]

I just had a brain fart

Lurantis!

Ok

[latent sleet]

you got a lurantis?

[bleak pine]

Lurantis. Contrary? It's just the best

Yep

[latent sleet]

awesome

[placid junco]

Luigi’s mansion 3 is probably the prettiest game on the switch

I’d dare call it prettier than some non switch games

[vagrant steppe]

Getting stuck in the middle of 10-15 Pokemon is actually the worst

It's so slow doing all these battles, I just wanna movd

Stop fucking attacking me gogoats

[polar osprey]

YES

Holy shit

[latent sleet]

im sick of pokemon the size of a bacteria

[vagrant steppe]

I wish we could get repels

Because a 1 minute walk turned into 15 with how much shit was just in the way

[lone harbor]

https://twitter.com/radicrow/status/1597409096520839168?t=DfSE6figB8BSMlUlNq3g_w&s=19

rio @ fixing misprints (@radicrow)

ok well. i was gonna make a sandwich but idk where the cheese went. picnic ruined

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Twitter · Nov 29, 2022, 1:56 AM

[harsh path]

When the case goes cold

[bleak pine]

Been realizing I got way too many mons that go in on the offensive.

If anyone has good ideas on stuff that focuses on defense I'd be appreciative

Currently looking at Forretress as far as defense goes

[golden lance]

Clodsire

[vagrant steppe]

Do the classic Cyclizar into clodsire

NPCs can't handle it

[bleak pine]

Y'know, yeah

But I'm still just too much a fan of Quagsire

[vagrant steppe]

But its brown Quagsire

[mighty storm]

https://twitter.com/MarianaRegion/status/1596320822708572161/photo/1

Mariana Region (@MarianaRegion)

#dudunsparce

Twitter · Nov 26, 2022, 1:51 AM

[bleak pine]

Alright, I love Acid Spray

It's so great in raid battles

[placid junco]

I currently have two empty slots on my team and I am really enjoying how much of a struggle it is to fill those slots

[bleak pine]

Just realized

This is the first time in like 25 or so years that Venonat was native to a region

Wow

[vagrant steppe]

Don't like that the ghost gym heals your Pokemon between battles