Wasn’t it use to be grass-green? Now it looks minty-green
#Pokemon
mighty storm
wait, where did it go o.O , shinies dont despawn
pseudo goblet
Maybe check around?
mighty storm
I looked around, and it says I fought 3 shinies on my profile 😱 after restarting
my autosave was off
WAIT NOPE
saved
it was just behind me
pseudo goblet
Wait is it really 😂
mighty storm
yeah
kept running forward, and it despawned when I did.
now to just catch it
caught, premiere ball
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
Nice character design 
mighty storm
thank you
vagrant steppe
I just realized something: You can tell the new pokemon is bad because it cut fishing. All good games have a fishing minigame
placid junco
True though
mighty storm
at 123 mons caught, still awhile to go
placid junco
I haven’t even filled a single box yet
mighty storm
the dex is like 400 right?
placid junco
Ye
mighty storm
btw quick balls kinda broke in this game
pseudo goblet
Is that good or bad?
pseudo goblet
🤯
mighty storm
and guess what happens if you re-enter the battle 
yep first turn again
bleak pine
Fun thing I realized on Tinkaton
It has a shiny
The hammer is the only part of it that is shiny
vagrant steppe
Found a Shiny Nacli
bleak pine
It's the same coloration as Corviknight's shiny
pseudo goblet
and guess what happens if you re-enter the battle <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078...
Didn’t ghost types have this hidden mechanic to always let itself flee successfully
bleak pine
Nah
pseudo goblet
Wait so Tinkaton’s hammer is made out of Corniknight parts 
bleak pine
Being Ghost-type means it can ignore the effects of Shadow Tag
So mons like Wobbuffet cannot keep them in battle
Tinkaton's metal comes from a lot of scrap metal, mostly other steel types
vagrant steppe
vagrant steppe
Hey at least this one stands out
bleak pine
I wonder how well Salt Cure works with the Binding Band item
I didn't notice much a difference when I had it on mine
vagrant steppe
I was using one before, so I might as well
bleak pine
Another cool thing is that Tinkatink's hammer is actually the same hammer, just reworked and reforged as it evolves
mighty storm
btw team at level 51, time to go beat up a team star boss
well, level 50 but close enough
bleak pine
You can even see the original club it had inside the gigantic hammer it has as Tinkaton
bleak pine
Still a rock type
sharp kernel
Wow racist
pseudo goblet
Oi 
mighty storm
the salt is good tho
pseudo goblet
Hmm, explain 
Maybe it’s because I had a Lycanroc dusk when I was playing ultra sun, good offensive doggo, but not exactly a tank 😔
pseudo goblet
You kidding? Loved it
It’s just, rock types designs seem tanky, but, they usually aren’t, doesn’t help that they are weak to a lot of early game pokemon types
I would kinda rather have a Pokemon using non-stab rock moves
maiden flax
Hmm, explain <:hallothink:355502036563001344>
Its currently one of the best bulky mons in ou :v
The two most popular sets are
salt cure/iron def/body press/recover
And
Salt cure/protect/body press(or eq)/recover
There are also SR sets too
pseudo goblet
What does salt cure do?
bleak pine
It's a binding move in the vein of fire spin or whirlpool
maiden flax
What does salt cure do?
40 bp move that does 12.5% every turn and 25% if they are water or steel type
bleak pine
Only difference is, it deals much more damage per turn to water or steel/types
maiden flax
It's a binding move in the vein of fire spin or whirlpool
Also its not a binding move, binding moves are its own category of moves
Also its not a trapping move either
pseudo goblet
Okay so it has its way to deal with two of its weakness, interesting
bleak pine
Also explains why the Binding Band doesn't impress much
maiden flax
Okay so it has its way to deal with two of its weakness, interesting
Yup and you can switch out garga and the damage still goes
pseudo goblet
Legit thought Salt cure was a healing move when I first heard it, not gonna lie
maiden flax
Unlike whirlpool and the like
Oh right! Its ability is purifying salt
So find one with purifying salt
pseudo goblet
It heals, doesn’t it
maiden flax
Purifying salt is its ability
Its halves ghost damage and makes him immune to status effects
pseudo goblet
Pfft, took me a sec to understand why the ghost type resistance
maiden flax
Pfft, took me a sec to understand why the ghost type resistance <:KEKW:622347587...
Unrelated do you watch mob psycho 100?
pseudo goblet
No
maiden flax
Aw
pseudo goblet
Sorry lmao
placid junco
Purifying salt is such an insanely busted ability
Even without the ghost resistance it’d probably be good
But the ghost resistance just makes it really damn good
pseudo goblet
Hmm, is there a lot of ghost types battle in the game?
Also, knowing myself, I would probably unconsciously or preferably make this bulky salt to offensive 😅😂
pseudo goblet
Wait, how does the salt performs when against Toxapex, any winning chance?
maiden flax
I would call op
If it were a trapping move it would have to stay in for the chip
maiden flax
Wait, how does the salt performs when against Toxapex, any winning chance? <:hal...
Garganacl solos toxapex
Especially since toxapex cant toxic it either
pseudo goblet
Hmm, I am convinced, I welcome salt to my team
maiden flax
Also note: unlike trapping moves the damage has no turn limit, so as long as the opponent stays in they will continue getting chipped
mighty storm
a very fitting teratype for dratini
pseudo goblet
Probably in box half of the time but hey, the game never said we have to stay with 6 mon 
bleak pine
Also note: unlike trapping moves the damage has no turn limit, so as long as the...
I'm sorry WHAT
maiden flax
Yes
pseudo goblet
So, the salt fire spin can go over 30 turns and it would be still on?
bleak pine
When you put it that way it just seems like Dugtrio would be the best pal the salt boy would have
Or really, most mons with abilities that prevent switching out
maiden flax
So, the salt fire spin can go over 30 turns and it would be still on?
Yup, unless the opponent switches out but yeah, no turn limit
Its like leech seed in that sense
bleak pine
Ideally I'd wager moves like Iron Defense and Body Press would be good supplements?
pseudo goblet
Talk about making the opponent feel salty 
bleak pine
And well, Recover?
vagrant steppe
Aww this Nacli has the worse ability (sturdy)
maiden flax
Ideally I'd wager moves like Iron Defense and Body Press would be good supplemen...
That is indeed one of the most popular sets
vagrant steppe
Where do I find an ability capsule
bleak pine
You could have it use Stone Edge and stuff instead
mighty storm
raids
bleak pine
You can get ability capsules from high-end raids
maiden flax
Where do I find an ability capsule
After progressing in the gamee enough you can find them in chansey supplies
bleak pine
Stuff like 4* or higher.
vagrant steppe
Sturdy isn't bad, but the salt one is way better
maiden flax
Otherwise you can find them in 5-6 star raids
bleak pine
I'd also guess a good Tera Type for the salty fella would be Ghost-type
Purifying Salt makes it resist ghost-type moves, so it'd only truly be vulnerable to dark-type moves
pseudo goblet
Hmm, so the mon I’m considering to have are
1-3 starters
Lokix
Clodsire
Fidough or Tinkaton
Salt golem
Need one more
maiden flax
I'd also guess a good Tera Type for the salty fella would be Ghost-type
Fairy, flying, steel and water are all more popular
bleak pine
Hmm, so the mon I’m considering to have are
1-3 starters
Lokix
Clodsire
Fidoug...
How bout something that was introduced in an earlier game?
pseudo goblet
Meh, new mon-only team if possible
pseudo goblet
Hmm, yes
bleak pine
Tauros could be a good pick, as can fellas like Flamigo
But, if you want older mons you can always take up Mankey or Crabrawler
Mankey even learns Cross Chop at an entirely unreasonably early level
pseudo goblet
Oh… I just realize this team types clashes with each other if I have Sprigatito and Quaxly when they evolve(if I got one of the fighting mon mentioned)
mighty storm
I have a fighting tera lokix, he's a staple of my team
pseudo goblet
Fuecoco probably are my best choice to go for most coverage huh
Kinda odd how I haven’t heard much about the new fire types we got other than the megaman and the moth
I will probably get scarlet, the megaman in scarlet is psychic fire right?
mighty storm
yeah psychic/fire
pseudo goblet
Me head hurts 
Oh wait, Koraidon is fighting dragon, huh, don’t think I will use it outside of riding around tho
Also, late game
pseudo goblet
Hmm, so the mon I’m considering to have are
1-3 starters
Lokix
Clodsire
Fidoug...
Wait, go back for a bit, if I for real wanna name my pokemons with food,
Clodsire Éclair
Tinkaton Shortcake
I suppose I would name Nacli Tiramisu
What does salt final evo look like?
Heh, Tiramisu it is
pseudo goblet
Oh, you evolved the shiny salt already 
pseudo goblet
Oh lmao
vagrant steppe
Mine is a Naclstack
silver vigil
Wtf are you meant to do for the dragon Titan
sharp kernel
I would name them digitus medius
silver vigil
I’m genuinely confused
pseudo goblet
God… what do I even do for Lokix’s name…
polar osprey
Wtf are you meant to do for the dragon Titan
Wym
pseudo goblet
Lokix kinda reminds me of liquorice
polar osprey
Talk with the tatsu at the edge of the island
pseudo goblet
God… what do I even do for Lokix’s name…
Black Forest cakes maybe?
I guess I can shorten it to just ‘Black’, also I found this
Yes it is freaking 5 am for me 
sharp kernel
Jamaican rum cake slaps
pseudo goblet
Also just in case people calling me racist for calling my bug boy ‘Black’, jokes on you, I’m also naming it from what it originate from
kind vortex
no one's calling you racist for naming it 'black'
pseudo goblet
Yea I know
obsidian juniper
pseudo goblet
I heard Spidops is hard to use, is that correct?
mighty storm
placid junco
I heard Spidops is hard to use, is that correct?
By hard to use they mean it’s kinda like magikarp and gyarados without a good payoff
pseudo goblet
By hard to use they mean it’s kinda like magikarp and gyarados without a good pa...
Tis the fate of bug types 
placid junco
Nah
Just this one in particular
Tarountula should have evolved like 5-6 levels earlier
pseudo goblet
Oh yeah true, but still
placid junco
But for some godforsaken reason it takes forever to evolve
Both in terms of level and the actual amount of effort it takes
pseudo goblet
Also, French oh my god that name
placid junco
Like genuinely
vagrant steppe
Wow why does every new shiny suck
How are you supposed to tell the difference on half of these
placid junco
I think Tarountula has to be the most grueling 13 levels to evolution I’ve ever gone through
pseudo goblet
Wow why does every new shiny suck
Gen 1… shiny Persian and Gengar, look at them…
vagrant steppe
Tbf shinies from gen 1 were randomly generated
polar osprey
How are you supposed to tell the difference on half of these
Imagine how many people missed shinnies now that they don't have any sound or anything
vagrant steppe
I'm sure there's quite a few
I've gotta battle literally every ghastly I see just in case
polar osprey
Super small pokemon with shinnies barely having any difference
polar osprey
These 4 pixels on my screen are a slightly darker shade of blue
mighty storm
lechonk got a really good shiny
pseudo goblet
Also, French oh my god that name <:KEKW:622347587516628993>
The Japanese name I think says irukaman or Irugaman , isn’t that like (dolphin man)? 😂
mighty storm
yep zane
pseudo goblet
Hang on I need to check
mighty storm
iruka does mean dolphin
vagrant steppe
Why ping
pseudo goblet
Oh wow the shiny looks good
pseudo goblet
Went from cutesy to edgy
mighty storm
😮 Palafin hero form shiny looks REALLY GOOD
another good looking shiny from gen 9, slither wing
volcarona's shiny, but baby
pseudo goblet
Nice, it kept the its original- uh, future-ish shiny color
pseudo goblet
all the future shinies are chrome
Ohhhhh. I looked at the original color, I see the problem now
polar osprey
Future is made to look streamlined which makes sense but Idk
Not a big fan
All names being iron X
All shinies looking the same
mighty storm
pseudo goblet
Briefly saw the paradoxes, that’s the moment when I decide(taking side) which version I want lmao
Wait Arboliva is grass normal???
polar osprey
You only get the paradoxes at the end of the game and can just trade with the other version in seconds using trade codes
mighty storm
everything is chrome in the future of shinies 
, glad I picked up scarlet
polar osprey
I recommend using the normal exclusives to decide which version you want
pseudo goblet
And those are?
mighty storm
you can also go into another persons world to pick up exclusives, HOWEVER note shiny spawns when in someone else's world is a free for all.
Like if I let one of you do co-op with me, and you spot a shiny lechonk. You can steal it
pseudo goblet
Hello Pandon
mighty storm
PANTS
mighty storm
why is it's shiny literally just denim jeans and a shirt
polar osprey
And those are?
Armarouge/ceruledge and taurus fire/water for new mons only
Besides that you get reversed normal variants of paradoxes mons
pseudo goblet
I’m looking through the pokedex(in case it wasn’t clear what I’m doing rn) so I’m gonna met the bulls soon
pseudo goblet
Got it 
pseudo goblet
Hello Pandon <:KEKW:622347587516628993>
Also I called it Pandon from Ultraman as a joke, but you know what, I’m gonna call these two peppers that once I caught em 😂
placid junco
I’ve still only seen the scarlet paradoxes so far
And that’s only because my friend wanted to refund scarlet for violet but keeping her good stuff
pseudo goblet
You might need a puke bag when You see a certain red bird from the future Christmas
placid junco
I can’t wait to find out what my two grass type choices (so far) evolve into
Lmao
I can tolerate fearow, it can’t be much uglier than that
placid junco
The paradox names are also dumb
vagrant steppe
They are
sand forge
They clearly used up all their time on the ancient ones
pseudo goblet
The Primitives shall rule all 
placid junco
I’ve heard flutter mane is also banned
pseudo goblet
vagrant steppe
Yeah Flutter Mane died immediately
placid junco
I’m still pretty blind to everything but neat
I’m kinda sad Klawf’s probably gonna be relegated to “early game powerhouse for single player”
sand forge
"what about iron throat"
"maybe latin it up a bit?"
vagrant steppe
I really wish they used the fucking PLA thing for Klawf
pseudo goblet
Oh yeah, I just saw Bellibolt’s evolve method, glad to see them remember the evolution stones
sand forge
"Iron Jugular?"
harsh path
mighty storm
I still need to finish up team stars bosses off, Im near the end game for all 3 paths
vagrant steppe
Like Jesus, having to sit through 4 text scrolls is awful
placid junco
Anger shell is hilarious
timid oracle
I wish they had kept whole not needing trading to evolve certain pokemon from PLA
mighty storm
For titans I am at the part where I have to|| fight arven||, for victory road I am at the part where I have to throw my badges at the person who will let me fight the elite 4, and for team star I just have fairy guy and fighting girl
polar osprey
You can get some trade evolutions in game
vagrant steppe
I wish they kept a lot of things from PLA
vagrant steppe
Can't believe the series peaked on switch with PLA
polar osprey
I can, spinoffs are normally much better for pokemon
mighty storm
sharp kernel
What a fail summer
vagrant steppe
PLA is technically mainline
timid oracle
PLA is very much odd case
mighty storm
Pincurchin for a haunter is a good deal, you get a gengar out of it
vagrant steppe
But yeah, it's wildly better than any other Pokemon game on the switch
mighty storm
sharp kernel
Also what noob would trade alpha pincurchin for beta gengar
mighty storm
orca with orange highlighter
vagrant steppe
Oh hey that's a good shiny
mighty storm
and yes dont worry, the haunter is not a Mindy trade
polar osprey
Pincurchin literally holding future mons back
sharp kernel
Isn’t he rumored to be one of the home Pokémon?
sharp kernel
Tapu koko is going to massively shake up the meta
placid junco
Please not another tapu meta
vagrant steppe
Yeah I'm fine with no tapus
placid junco
Pincurchin is the funnier terrain layer
timid oracle
GF's balancing is some how worse than NRS's
pseudo goblet
Oh HERE you are, this is the new pseudo legendary right
sharp kernel
Dw only tapu koko will be playable, the other ones I don’t see seeing high amounts of play
What
sharp kernel
The shiny is a fucking glove color change
pseudo goblet
Oh HERE you are, this is the new pseudo legendary right
Greener shade of black and pink hands, really
placid junco
It looks like druddigon 2
vagrant steppe
Like I said, most shinies this gen SUCK
It's really easy to miss them without the PLA animation if you don't know what to look for
sharp kernel
Bow down to your creator
placid junco
No
vagrant steppe
Eww
placid junco
I am going to apply 2 layers of toxic spikes and spam mud shot
mighty storm
the shiny makes sense
vagrant steppe
That's an ugly ass shiny
pseudo goblet
Tatsugiri doesn’t evolve?? Why???
mighty storm
cuz it's meant to be eaten
vagrant steppe
Because it has a gimmick you'll never be able to use in the base game
There's exactly an double battle
mighty storm
ghost gym has double battles, but wild tatsugiri and dondozo are higher level then the ghost gym 
placid junco
I’m looking forward to playing more scarlet tonight so I can actually see the cool stuff in the region
vagrant steppe
That's the one double battle I was referring to
placid junco
Bramblin and Capaskid I both like, but only one gets to be on the team
mighty storm
yeah didnt see the "an double battle" till after I typed that
sharp kernel
Tatsugiri actually has a sick support moveset
polar osprey
The lack of double battles this time around is concerning ngl
pseudo goblet
Okay so there’s two Pokémon I’ve seen that has Revival blessings, cool
sharp kernel
And specs if you want to take advantage of its 120 spa
vagrant steppe
There's usually only 1-2 in the main story
placid junco
I’m completely blind to everything so I don’t actually know (nor will I pass judgement until I actually see the stuff for myself)
vagrant steppe
But because they cut battle towers
polar osprey
Which sucks
polar osprey
Grinding towers was so much better than raids
mighty storm
we got the smallest legendary ever in gen 9 btw
vagrant steppe
They cut the battle tower because they'd have to design an interior
sharp kernel
I want an all doubles story
vagrant steppe
That's temtem
pseudo goblet
Oooh new Eletric flying type mon, hello
polar osprey
Me too
mighty storm
I want an all doubles story
XD gale
vagrant steppe
But yeah, if you're gonna make the premier competitive mode double, make the main story doubles too
polar osprey
Don't you always run specs to grab a KO after the opponent deals with dondonzo?
In tatsu
sharp kernel
Yeah but I meant if you wanted to use it for singles for some reason
pseudo goblet
Is that a goldfish with jade eyes?
sharp kernel
But yeah, this would have been the game to push doubles in the main story. There’s so much more diversity compared to singles rn
polar osprey
Just don't say it's a legendary
That being a legend would be an even bigger surprise
mighty storm
I do like the legendaries of this gen, Zane is in for a surprise
vagrant steppe
Yeah you're literally in both threads
mighty storm
I deleted it
vagrant steppe
You were complaining about spoilers prior
mighty storm
games been out for a week, time sure does fly
vagrant steppe
I think Miradion looks really bad
placid junco
Miradon is dumb yeah
vagrant steppe
But Koraidon looks good
placid junco
I love the stupid wheels on Koraidon
polar osprey
Miraidon looks cool in the motorcycle form
mighty storm
<:monkaTOAD:407958091133485067>
Just be careful in the world and they wont get you. Best avoid pulling out things that look well powerful
sand forge
Summer try not to spoil things 5 seconds after saying she won't spoil things challenge
(impossible)
mighty storm
||I know they still need to view the sealed area after, this is to avoid having to manually check each one with a guide only to have to visit all locations cuz you forgot what you pulled out||
mighty storm
Pull all of them
there is a reason to save pulling them for later explained above.
pseudo goblet
Shiny hunt?
mighty storm
Nah they shiny locked. Basically this is the spritomb (but not nearly as bad) of the game
pseudo goblet
China just denied letting me buy a figure of Ash, Damn it…
bleak pine
@spice rivet Oh hey, remember that trade code hotline thing you had? You mind DMing the full list for me?
placid junco
placid junco
man shinies seem super common but I haven't seen any yey
kind vortex
how did you manage that?
last musk
I have zero clue
Hopped in a raid, had my annihilape selected
Then boom
Gimmgoul evolution on my team with a Japanese name starting with D
kind vortex
quality
bleak pine
Just learned something new
If your Pokémon uses the Thief or Covet moves against a mon holding an item in the wild, the item is immediately removed after battle and goes into your bag
Just learned this when I mugged a Chansey for their Oval Stone.
I might see if I can attempt the same, but for Luvdisc. Those Heart Scales that it might carry could go for some quick couch cash
...On second though, they might not sell for much. I'd have better luck mugging Shellder
mighty storm
found gastrodon 😮
bleak pine
Squishy boi
bleak pine
Ok, this dumb ostrich thing?
Super friggin' cool
Just deleted a 5 star raid more or less by itself
It was really cutting it close with the time limit, but I did it
young magnet
havent been too involved with pokemon for the last two gens did they ever give us something to get rid of trick room
placid junco
Nope
young magnet
dam
placid junco
Not that I’m aware of at least
vagrant steppe
I'd kill for an item or ability that sets trick Room on entry
young magnet
no
placid junco
Incredibly fast Pokémon (like base 150 speed) that sets trick room on entry
And has no other redeeming qualities aside from a mean gyro ball
vagrant steppe
That's fine tbh
bleak pine
There's been a lot of tweaks to many battle aspects
placid junco
Tbh after crowned zacian they can do whatever the hell they want
bleak pine
But one constant just remains, is that Trick Room is still obnoxious and Stealth Rock has no reason to exist
mighty storm
*Super friggin' cool*
😄 I have a shiny of it
bleak pine
Though, there's been a whole mess of new moves that remove such traps
Yeah, the Shiny is apparently super cool
sharp kernel
A Pokémon that sets trick room would be amazing
mighty storm
black shinies are always nice
bleak pine
And it even has frickin' Speed Boost as a hidden ability
sharp kernel
But they would never do that, got to go buff sun
If it doesn’t make Kyogre and Groudon better, Pokémon company ain’t approving it
sharp kernel
I’m not
bleak pine
Primordial beings and such
mighty storm
btw I got all the different paths complete in terms of badges, now to take on the final fights of each
bleak pine
Anyone up for helping me out on a somewhat difficult raid later?
I probs should see if I can request a role for Raid Battles later, but eh
last musk
latent sleet
i caught a shiny goomy 
latent sleet
my man
vagrant steppe
Yeah mine says "2" because Nacli and Naclstack
bleak pine
Yatta. A successful raid.
kind vortex
And has no other redeeming qualities aside from a mean gyro ball
gyro ball would be dogshit on this mon
placid junco
Oh does gyro ball only care about the numbers
mighty storm
Already finished Path of Legends, now to finish off E4 and the last fights of the Team Star Path
placid junco
Ah
kind vortex
Base Power = FLOOR((25 * TargetSpeed / UserSpeed) + 1)
mighty storm
honestly, didnt expect to keep Shelly around. She was supposed to be a second counter to water gym
kind vortex
is the formula
electro ball is the one that has more power the higher speed you have
bleak pine
Y'know, I might train up Sudowoodo
I always liked the idea of just destroying things with a Head Smash move with no real drawback
lone harbor
so i just found out the e4 theme on my game is bguged
as are many other people's
and it's not just a suspenseful 5 second loopp
love this game LMAO
bleak pine
The loop actually works pretty well admittedly, but I am curious how the non-bugged one sounds like
Just instils some uncertainty as you fight your way to the top
lone harbor
E4 spoilers: ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjz2R7sDALw||
song if u want
oops no its not
now it is
flat fractal
yo wtf lol
bleak pine
Y'know, these slope run themes are probably the most relaxing music you have when boarding down a frozen mountain
I'm always used to music on descending a frozen mountain to be incredibly intense.
Like this for example
bleak pine
E4 spoilers: ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjz2R7sDALw||
Innnteresting~
lyric pollen
Do you really need to use the rare ability item to make a pokemon with its HA swap to its normal one
bleak pine
Yep
lyric pollen
Thats so annoying
bleak pine
Eh, at least you got a choice
Sword/Shield didn't even allow for that; you were stuck with the hidden ability if it had one
lyric pollen
Why is armarouges HA worse 
bleak pine
Weak Armor is pretty wack
lyric pollen
Is that true? I thought the capsule toggled HA in sw/sh
bleak pine
Nah, the capsule only worked if they had two regular abilities
lyric pollen
I really want flash fire yeah, it's like the perfect torkoal counter
Flash fire and wide guard
Oh well, just need to grind for another patch
lucid moth
weak armor is good
actually
armarouge itself may not be the best user of it
but weak armor is good
mighty storm
Starfall Street Story done, only one last story to finish up before Post game. Time to take down the Elite Four ..... tomorrow because I'm tired 😅 good night everyone
bleak pine
I had a Polteageist with Weak Armor.
It was bar none the scariest ghost-type I ever seen, period
golden lance
So wait
Lokix has an almost signature move
But it does not do a flying kick animation like in the dex entry
lone harbor
alright we getting there with mons for tera raids
got an azumarill and koraidon fully ev+iv trained
bleak pine
Y'know, Tera Raids seem to require more planning and strategy than Max Raids
Most all you had to do in a Max Raid was just smack the Dynamaxxed Mon over and over without much heed.
Here, stuff like status aliments, stat reductions and the like can make a big difference,
golden lance
also, one more thing that i noticed
phisical moves don't make the pokemon go next to the other one in other to attack it
really sad that this game doesn't have it when pla did
vagrant steppe
Yup, the animations are kinda embarrassing like usual
silver vigil
Should I finish off team star, then do the league, then do the paradox stuff
polar osprey
Yes
sharp kernel
Tbh the map is so stupid huge I usually just do what’s around me
polar osprey
60s
silver vigil
I’ve done the last base
placid junco
I was accidentally over leveled for Mela
silver vigil
this is what using 10 mons does to you
placid junco
I’m gonna end up like that when clodsire or Klawf eventually stop performing up to snuff
latent sleet
i may or may not have fought larry with pokemon 20 levels above his
bleak pine
Y'know it's weird how tofu is treated as a sweet ingredient.
Isn't the block of white... whatever it is known for having zero taste whatsoever?
Also, trying to figure out how I can get both Normal Encounter Power and Item Power at a high level.
bleak pine
You think we ought to make plans to take on Charizard in raids when it launches?
polar osprey
We don't know the coverage it has so just wait until the raid is out
golden lance
Isn't the block of white... whatever it is known for having zero taste whatsoeve...
It can have a slightly acidic flavor if you use lemon juice as a coagulant
mighty storm
Oh now that's a way to end the champion fight, Yuya my meowscadara learned leaf storm and finished off the champion with it ❤️
clever saddle
Got a question, has anyone else’s ceruledge face the opposite direction you are when it’s out of the pokeball?
silver vigil
@polar osprey champ time
kind vortex
it's champion ti-
wrong champion sadly
latent sleet
based honestly
silver vigil
This couldn’t have ended in a more anime ass way holy shit
pseudo goblet
Nah, It totally can, Red health+overgrow
mighty storm
based team tbh
mighty storm
This couldn’t have ended in a more anime ass way holy shit
My starter learned a new move (leafstorm) right before she sent her final mon out and uses that move to deal the final blow. Yes it could end in a more anime way ;p
pseudo goblet
Eel
Don’t know if someone thought of this already, but seeing a lot of people wanting the next Legends game to be held in Unova and about Kyurem, do you guys think Eelektross could get a ‘Past Unova’ form with Water type
sand forge
Are there any other ocean-dwelling Pokémon that aren't water-type
long stone
yes
sand forge
Galarian Corsola/Dragapult
long stone
stunfisk comes to mind
placid junco
Dragalgae
Stunfisk is more marshes tho right
There’s some argument to be made that avalugg could be ocean dwelling iirc
long stone
Stunfisk is a Halibut...
placid junco
While true the Pokémon itself I don’t think has ever been particularly ocean affiliated
long stone
still all typee of flatfish live in sea only
placid junco
Yeah
long stone
anywat there is dhelmise too
placid junco
Although the question was about the pokemon, not their inspiration
I want to count the sandyghast family but beaches are not oceans
sand forge
I'd like to see a Dark Eelektross
vagrant steppe
Man it's actually insufferably slow when you're trying to walk 3 feet and there's literally just a horde
polar osprey
This couldn’t have ended in a more anime ass way holy shit
Nice now go play the best part of this game by far
bleak pine
Are there any other ocean-dwelling Pokémon that aren't water-type
Tynamo!
It's a straight Electric type that you can find in oceans
Though weirdly enough you can find them in caves in Unova
There's also Clobtopus and Grapploct
outer eagle
lugia
bleak pine
Hisuian Qwilfish is also just Poison/Dark type
And yeah like Ryuji said, there is Lugia
outer eagle
does stunfisk live underwater 
bleak pine
It seems to just live in bogs
Just, possibly in a lot of places where there's mud rather than water
So, not exactly a saltwater fish
sand forge
does stunfisk live underwater <:OgreThink:562491300537171978>
Pokedex says it's coastal
outer eagle
bleak pine
If we're getting technical, it is possible in some games, to encounter Hoppid while surfing in an ocean
They just sorta float over the waters I'd imagine.
sand forge
yeah but I assume they're just blown adrift at that point
bleak pine
Being a Hoppid would be very scary
bleak pine
Wait, Medicham can learn recover, what?
Could it always do that?
...And it seems it's now learning something called Axe Kick
Seems it's only 10 power lower than High Jump Kick, but it has a chance to confuse the defender.
latent sleet
Wait, Medicham can learn recover, what?
i think it did
a lot of psychic pokemon learn it
bleak pine
I got into a really dumb argument on Diglett with someone.
Apparently they started it up with saying "Oh, we all know what's underneath Diglett!"
I just mentioned that not knowing what is under it is kinda the point, but they were very adamant that it's common knowledge on their argument.
Eh.
I didn't press much further, but I'm really wondering what they meant by them knowing what it under it
Also they just casually mentioned that Jynx was a racist stereotype. Which I really wasn't gonna talk about in front of other people. Yurgh.
Pretty sure I was gonna bring up how most their design stemmed from the Gyaru sub-culture, but I just refrained from doing so.
outer eagle
there's nothing underneath Diglett
Brock proved this to us
bleak pine
I love how the games just go out of the way in order to keep us from actually seeing the underside of Diglett
bleak pine
If you used a move that would launch Diglett or Dugtrio into the air, a chunk of the ground comes up with it so that it still remains hidden
last musk
I wouldn't be surprised if that was just part of the pokemon
bleak pine
Yeah, a slug-like thing would be a very apt guess, but it does beg the question on how it has so many cutting moves if so
last musk
Iirc this was an actual anime image but it's anime so who knows if it's canon
last musk
Yeah, a slug-like thing would be a very apt guess, but it does beg the question ...
Maybe it launches sharp rocks?
bleak pine
That's a really friggin' small Dugtrio if Brock is just casually holding it like that
Yeah, maybe just really sharp rocks get uprooted to jab stuff
outer eagle
they just have SV scaling dw
bleak pine
Admittedly Diglett is a pretty small, possibly the smallest of mons introduced in Red/Blue
long stone
how about a paradox for Jirachi (future) and Deoxys (Past) (Iron Comet & Cosmic Tendrils)
deoxys one could be a mix of all its 3 froms
sand forge
idk man Jirachii is already steel
latent sleet
future crobat with propellers wings
outer eagle
Seeing that ygo managed to make an entire Paleo archetype
I wanna see more fossils based on those designs tbh
latent sleet
why did they not include my man blud (zubat)
sand forge
Seeing that ygo managed to make an entire Paleo archetype
I wanna see more fossi...
Best we can do is Cronenberg-esque body horror
mighty storm
And so it comes to this
Gotta love the bugs 
of course Yuya was in the front when this happened
polar osprey
So uh
What is the counter to fake out + air slash into 1 hit moves people are spamming now?
I'm playing 2v4s out here
lyric pollen
hope they patch the seed
sleek sky
In theory you'd need something that doesn't flinch
so you can act before the OHKO goes off
lyric pollen
it might happen when the drop the ranked ladder
sleek sky
at the very least that dodges one OHKO setup
last musk
Get something with inner focus
sharp kernel
Rip to crobat not being in the gen
last musk
Annihilape knows it
Not sure if kingambit keeps it
Lucario can
Dragonite and some eeveelutions too
vagrant steppe
So unironically with the seeding thing, if they don't fix it, the VGC strat is to spam 1HKO moves, right?
last musk
Vgc strat is probably lead with a Mon with inner focus
vagrant steppe
Why build a strat when you can guarantee sheer cold lands every turn?
vagrant steppe
Is it not? I thought it was every turn provided the other move sets it up
Oh either way, this can definitely be manipulated to an extreme level holy shit
last musk
Turn 2 is the most recent you can get it off
vagrant steppe
Like this HAS to be patched
last musk
Hence why the strat is flinch, then use it
kind vortex
last i checked, ohko moves don't hit through protect
and esp in vgc, protect is core
vagrant steppe
So the counterplay is to protect on any turn where it could happen
kind vortex
yes, which sucks ass, but is possible
unless they threw out a curveball and made them hit through protect
which i doubt
vagrant steppe
Is there a no guard mon with either sheer cold or fissure?
kind vortex
that's currently legal? i don't think so
idek if no guard is in the game right now
okay, it's lycanroc midnight's hidden ability
it lacks an ohko move tho
and it also sucks anyway, so
vagrant steppe
Makes sense
So yeah, I guess the only counterplay is protect on all the turns of sheer cold
Or hope for a patch
flat fractal
which is the best sheer cold poke, chien pao?
kind vortex
of currently legal mons, by far, yes
vagrant steppe
Yeah definitely
Oh it also means metronome would do the same thing every turn, yeah?
Someone can figure out the metronome effects of each turn
kind vortex
inb4 sheer cold
vagrant steppe
Lmao if there's a turn of that, that's hilarious
silver vigil
Zamn my Koraidon
tacit sphinx
kind vortex
o.o
bleak pine
RAZ NO
placid junco
foggy oxide
How is a Trick Room team the first Dark team that is working for me in Smogon Monotype
I kept trying hyper offense and it just wasn't working
latent sleet
https://twitter.com/BugCatcherWill/status/1596559654229876738?s=20&t=lFRIfTVYetm...
what is a stem
obsidian juniper
"Science Technology Engineering Mathematics"
latent sleet
the more you learn
obsidian juniper
its an american thing iirc
mighty storm
https://twitter.com/BugCatcherWill/status/1596559654229876738?s=20&t=lFRIfTVYetm...
I've been saying she's trans since she was revealed
placid junco
Ye
mighty storm
add in she has a hoodie to the evidence
warm sky
https://twitter.com/BugCatcherWill/status/1596559654229876738?s=20&t=lFRIfTVYetm...
isn't all of that still subtext?
obsidian juniper
yems
last musk
The joke is it's so blatant sub text it's like they're stating it directly
warm sky
Ah
But to be fair
... that doesn't really work here
since these are all just kinda coincidences
void herald
yeah what does the stem major or the eeveelutions other than sylveon have to do with anything?
warm sky
yeah what does the stem major or the eeveelutions other than sylveon have to do ...
well a lot of trans women do major in stem, which it's an AMAB dominated field probably?
Eeveelutions, idk. I'm cis.
latent sleet
i don’t think pokemon is capable of making actual analogies
or smart enough for that matter
warm sky
There is a trans woman in gen 6 at the least
but I don't think they know of.... western stereotypes enough to have a trans rep
but tbh, I don't think a trans hc is bad, I can see it
Beats the "nemona is neurodivergent because she has a battling hyper fixation"
Which as as an autistic + adhd havin person... please stop
crimson moat
Honestly, the way I would have continued Nemona is to reveal how few if any trainers were in Champion class besides the league, who didn't have the time to battle
tacit sphinx
I just assumed Nemona desperately wants to kiss the protagonist
crimson moat
And no one wanting to battle her due to her class status
tacit sphinx
Like bitch just ask us out
warm sky
Having a single trait doesn't make you suddenly nd, and trying to boil us down to liking something really badly is not positive
last musk
I just assumed Nemona desperately wants to kiss the protagonist
She literally just wants someone to battle her
That's it
warm sky
she's goku
tacit sphinx
She literally just wants someone to battle her
She deadass stalks you for it tho
last musk
She doesn't even know you in the beginning and is hyperventilating at the possibility of you being good
She doesn't care about you
Just that you were able to beat her
crimson moat
She's Goku and they could have deepened why she is Goku
warm sky
but ye twitter just really jumps to "she's autistic" and I don't like being boiled to stereotypes 🙃
N is autistic tho
last musk
She deadass stalks you for it tho
Yes, she'd do it to the champion too if she wasn't always busy
tacit sphinx
On the topic of random thoughts
last musk
N is difficult to say, he's been socially exiled and brainwashed his entire life
tacit sphinx
How the fuck does whats her name walk
last musk
I could definitely see it
last musk
The Fire Team Star one
If you look at her walking animation, she lifts her entire leg
She doesn't bend her knees
tacit sphinx
If you look at her walking animation, she lifts her entire leg
lmao
crimson moat
It would make perfect sense if she was so fixated on making Champion trainers on account that there are no other champion trainers who'd battle her.
Accomplishing then goal of champion and then just... having nothing else to do with it
warm sky
tbh there's like
4 characters where
if you told me they were canon neuro
I'd believe it
N, ingo/emmet and Barry
tacit sphinx
if you told me they were canon neuro
What’s your take on Atticus
last musk
Issue is she got a trainer who got too good, if she had said that she had gotten other trainers to champion class and then they still didn't give her the challenge she wanted
warm sky
What’s your take on Atticus
don't know enough of gen 9 to say
last musk
that'd be interesting
last musk
He's just a chunni imo
tacit sphinx
He just obsesses over it and speaks in ye olde tongue
crimson moat
I mean he speaks Ye olde tongue translated, but what does the Japanese read as?
last musk
Probably a lot more formal or old Japanese dialect
warm sky
seems like a chuunni to me
crimson moat
Yeah there's no good way to translate that into english
tacit sphinx
Does anyone not tera type into their type
crimson moat
||No||
tacit sphinx
Like does anyone tera type a pokemon they own into a different type
to cover weaknesses
last musk
You know what'd be clever
crimson moat
||Elite 4 teras into same type ie ground into ground||
last musk
||If they did type coverage, but you'd have to ask people in the town about it to find out about it before the fight||
crimson moat
||If they did type coverage, but you'd have to ask people in the town about it t...
That would also be clever
"We don't do that here"
warm sky
ye u rite
crimson moat
||Falkner meets Burgh||
tacit sphinx
Larry
bleak pine
Larry
last musk
Living like Larry
placid junco
but ye twitter just really jumps to "she's autistic" and I don't like being boil...
I prefer the Nemona neurodivergent group to the Nemona groomer group
tacit sphinx
Larry is just “adult Pokemon fan”
warm sky
Larry the Sa-larry man
warm sky
I prefer the Nemona neurodivergent group to the Nemona groomer group
oh sure, but I like neither. Just that one is just accidentally stepping on your foot
and the other is stabbing you
tacit sphinx
I’m gonna make a comment
placid junco
Fair
tacit sphinx
A comment of dubious take
bleak pine
Why is this so hotly debated again?
tacit sphinx
The gym theme is fantastic but ruined by the chanting
sleek sky
I like the chanting
crimson moat
The gym theme is fantastic but ruined by the chanting
Heh, repeat of Gen 8
warm sky
Why is this so hotly debated again?
Nemona being a groomer? People with no reading comprehension
bleak pine
Yeah, the music itself is fantastic
Never been this hyped to win it since Black/White's near victory theme
placid junco
Nemona being Pokémon Goku is the best take about her
warm sky
People see nemona being obsessive and her being older
placid junco
I think both parts of the gym theme are great
warm sky
How do people hate the jazz bit
clearly it reminds them too much of persona 5
placid junco
So far it genuinely feels like the only bad parts about SV are the fine tuning and not really being designed like a real open world game where stuff scales to your progress
bleak pine
Every single game mechanic will remind someone of Persona 5
Or Dark Souls
It's usually one of them
placid junco
And tarountula but that’s me being biased
fuck that stupid wannabe magikarp so much
crimson moat
The Gym theme is good
The Star Grunt theme is good
The End Game Spoilers ||AI Theme|| is good
The Team Star leader theme takes too long to get good
tacit sphinx
So far it genuinely feels like the only bad parts about SV are the fine tuning a...
Counterpoint
crimson moat
The rest of the battle music is meh
bleak pine
Oh come on the yarn spider is a good spoder
tacit sphinx
I keep getting underlevelled because trainers don’t approach you to battle
placid junco
It is but it’s a pain in the ass to use
tacit sphinx
And I keep forgetting to interact with them
placid junco
It really should evolve at like
Level 12 at the absolute latest
tacit sphinx
Also counterpoint and this one is for me personally because it pisses me off
bleak pine
I... guess it learns Sticky Web?
placid junco
It learns a fancy protect
bleak pine
Wait, no sticky web?
tacit sphinx
If you press B to get rid of the EXP animation in a battle
It also skips the change Pokemon dialogue
So you have to switch but you don’t know what to switch to
bleak pine
Wait, really?
placid junco
That’s very dumb
fringe dust
Never been this hyped to win it since Black/White's near victory theme
it is a CRIME that this has been removed from later gens
bleak pine
I always pressed A, so I didn't really notice that can happen
bleak pine
it is a CRIME that this has been removed from later gens
Agreed
tacit sphinx
Like when you switch Pokemon it doesn’t say what you switch to, that message only shows up before the Pokemon menu shows up
crimson moat
And unfortunately Pokemon games are notorious criminals for removing stuff
bleak pine
It's just so much like the anime, they're down to their ace in the hole, and you've got to make that last push for victory. And that damn theme plays
crimson moat
Don't forget when BW2 every gym had its own mix
bleak pine
I still think Black/White's theme is better, if only cause it's such an appropriate use of the the main theme for Pokémon
KITTY
crimson moat
This is the closest thing that has been shown to anything of an SV anime
bleak pine
It'll be awhile before there will be any news no doubt
crimson moat
Yeah, because the anime is already late
Also at this point they shoudl hoenstly retire Team Rocket and move their role to whoever is the newest mook team
bleak pine
I still gotta see if I can get a trade in for Sprigatito
crimson moat
Like, Team Star's elite would be a really good point to build on in the anime
While still keeping the comedy
flat fractal
This is the closest thing that has been shown to anything of an SV anime
if they contuine the anime from the current point with no ash, major SV post game spoilers ||the kid who just got a virizion is probably going to have to do something vs the paradox form of it||
since the other kid got a ||suicune iirc||
crimson moat
Arven, Nemona, and Penny as leads with a ||Paradox Arven introduced later on for the other version||
bleak pine
Alright, gonna ask: Physical or Special attacks for Pikachu?
Just got a Light Ball, and I think I might go and do stuff with it
crimson moat
Like, Team Star's elite would be a really good point to build on in the anime
At the very least handle the SV cast better than Gen 8 anime handled SwSh cast
bleak pine
Yeah, that is a good point
At the same time I got a feeling Pikachu has more varied Special Attacks to work with than Physical
...Ok wow, Pikachu actually can learn Iron Tail naturally now, at level 28
Don't think it was capable of that just yet
It's funny cause the only things that seem to learn the move naturally now is ||Orthworm||
||Speaking of Orthworm, Orthworm is honestly, 100% what Onix should have been||
waxen moat
ANIME SPOILERS BUT WOW 
waxen moat
I got linked this so take it with a grain of salt 
crimson moat
So what channel is this on?
waxen moat
Okay false alarm I think this is from something else
but dammit almost bought it
flat fractal
ash aging 10 years off 1 tournament win lul
waxen moat
flat fractal
he woke up from his coma from season 1
placid junco
Lokix is totally a pokemon ash would use though
start off with a weak little nymbal that evolves in a clutch point
flat fractal
so with the dolphin introduced this gen
are we missing any major animals now
that haven;'t been turned into a pokemon eyt
crimson moat
Cheetah?
flat fractal
thought we had that in gen 5
last musk
That's a leopard
crimson moat
Liepard is a leopard
last musk
Oh wow Pokédex is bugged
vagrant steppe
We don't have a donkey, no?
last musk
Number 333 doesn't display
lucid moth
We don't have a donkey, no?
do we count mudsdale?
flat fractal
We don't have a donkey, no?
vagrant steppe
Number 333 doesn't display
Neither does Quagsire
Which is funny, because there's an NPC who gives you Wooper
And Quagsire is necessary for Dex completion
bleak pine
It's weird how this seems to happen.
Persian and Cofagrigas were listed in the Galar 'dex, but you needed a standard Meowth and Yamask from an in-game trade to even fill it out
spice rivet
And Quagsire is necessary for Dex completion
My dex is conplete even without Quagsire though.
long stone
idk man Jirachii is already steel
what does that have to do with anything ? most future mons are not Steel type anyway (even if they have iron in their name)
warm sky
Dek was just joking, don't think you need to ping him for it
anyway this is cool, you can be daft punk in gen 9 lol
long stone
Dek was just joking, don't think you need to ping him for it
I don't want to sound rude or anything but he can speak for himself you know.
latent sleet
my one complain about s/v is the dissapointing lack of character customization
swsh had a lot of variety
sharp kernel
Is this in terms of clothes? Because in terms of hairstyles and other stuff this one actually has the most options
warm sky
Nice repost
silver vigil
sand forge
what does that have to do with anything ? most future mons are not Steel type a...
I was just joking, don't think you need to ping me for it.
golden lance
There is no performance issues in Ba Sing Se