#Pokemon
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I see
Gotta love how some kid falls from the sky, has a device with tecnology from about 300 years in the future and no one bothers to study it
I hope the gen 9 anime doesnt use Ash again
Hope so
|| the best trainer in the world can totally lose to randos that just started their Adventure trust ||
amogus
Good thing Pokemon isnt known for their fps gameplay

Unless they tried to do Sky Pillar bycicle stuff again
Oshawott gang 
15
I hate this game

Just don’t mind about it, don’t let the annoying dialogue affect your play time 😂
amogus is eternal
Wondering what kinds of trainer classes I ought to have for this kind of high-fantasy fangame
Considering the following, stuff you'd expect as some professions in such a place might be nice.
As in like Bug catchers and bird keepers?
Yeah, professions of trainers more or less
Quick guess, probably Ace trainers
Ace Trainer? Stand-in would likely be a knight or wizard.
With, I guess Rising Stars being Squires or Apprentice Mages, likely.
Looks up the d&d roles page rogue?
A rogue or some kind of ne-er do well would be a fine pick for some towns with less reputable sorts of alleyways
Possibly just calling them 'cutpurse' would be fine.
And yeah, rangers!
The series already has rangers, but that's fine too since both would more or less have the same job detail
Wasn’t there a biker class trainers in Pokémon
Yes
Yep, usually like two
The usual Biker and their supposed head honcho, Cue Balls
Kinda a rude thing to call a bald guy, admittedly, but it's a lot better than the name given in the Japanese version
Shout outs to triathlon athlets, too
Man, Hoenn must be crazy about athleticism
I could see a training montage for the hoenn mc trying to climb sky pillar tbh
I can believe it. Trying to run a bike through all those cracked floors would be hell
Me guessing Steven Stone is the coach 
The dude climbed a waterfall afaik
Don't forget finding the tower in the first place was a chore
There's a lot of cryptic nonsense in RSE
Since you had to 1. Know that it existed (if you weren't playing emerald), and 2. Scout the whole upper route for a single opening
Choccy you re still playing Legends right, did you know the game are pretty easy to find shiny
A man's love for braille ended up manifesting in some very hard-to-translate puzzles for our resident giants
Yes
That is sick
Choose your fighter 
Question
What am i supposed to do with all of the duplicate mons i end up catching for my dex?
in what game
Legends
you can release them at the stable for items
I see
Rawr
Mweeeeeh!
wrong channel?
The dialogue is from legends arceus
^
Speaking of
Is there any incentive to do the early game dex tasks later instead of now?
The ones like "catch 25 bidoof" or "defeat 20 starly"
if you've done the bare minimum to progress the story and want to do that, then that would be its own incentive
but holding off and getting the early game mons out of the way is another option
ah
Most of what I can give is just simply to hide in tall grass and if you need to, some items that make it harder for them to see you
Feather Balls can let you bean them from a farther distance
I find it really clever how Brassius, the Grass-Type Gym Leader in Scarlet/Violet has a Sudowoodo
Normally, Grass types would be weak to fire, flying and poison-type moves, but Sudowoodo is a rock-type that is resistance to all three of those. And it still fits with being part of the challenge since it's Tera-Type is apparently grass-type.
how is this not a spoiler btw
Cause it was in the trailers

Yeah, it was already shown
I keep calling Alpha's "Apex" for whatever reason
I played Monster Hunter too much it seems
Sometimes a (...) text ballon shows up above wild pokemon, what does that mean?
They are gonna kill you
||there is a slot for a new hat according to Centro||
So i reached the heartwood
And i'm hearing the eterna forest remix for the first time
Reminder why Pokemon Twitter shouldn't be listened to
Oh my b, the general audience even
watch it on mobile
excuse the quality this video has no meaning to me i hate myself
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Watched that episode for 10th or more times with tears everytime lmao
I hward they brought all the big guns for the episode
Big guns as in what? Their Pokémon?
The artists
Oh, okay, wish I can thank them in person for this episode
Animators*
I gotta say, as for mons that would actually make good pets:
I wouldn't mind a Slowpoke one bit.
it's probably like a fancy snake
low metabolism, doesn't do much but still can be fun for cuddling
I want a calm Joltik, or a gentle Centiskorch, IF they somehow have the same artstyle/looks irl
Good thing this is about best pets, not much about competitive 
Bug really are one of the more weak type, but they are best friend 
Do you think Red of Pokemon Red left Mt Silver to become a champion eater and truck driver after being beaten by Gold
nah he was still a pokemon trainer in sun and moon
Arrrgh getting good ideas for fangame
OK. So I might have some plot points set out
One such thing might involve a noble house located in a part of a region that is known for its farmlands be the target of an attack by some unknown individuals, seeking some sort of MacGuffin, and the protagonist having business with them since they learned the details of such a plot
The thieves goals might not be for mayhem but to just simply obtain this important item, which I'll have to decide later. In any case, with this sort of part I might introduce the players to the local lord of the area who used to be a simple respected rancher until his own origins came to light (And yet isn't the PC), his stern but well-meaning butler/vassal/whatever who ends up aiding the PC in their attempt to thwart the attackers, and our resident big bad's number two, an enigmatic man in armor who soooo isn't the Black Knight.
Vassal, after the assault is being carried out while the PC is still investigating, helps them break past the various mooks trying to stop them from getting to the room this item is being carried in (Most likely aiding them in multi-battles, likely with a mon like Indeedee), and as it turns out, the Big Bad's #2 ends up arriving just in time to initiate a scripted battle with Vassal. That Vassal and his Indeedee just get wrecked in the ensuing battle with him and his... I guess I dunno what would be cooler to show off here, but point being is, it's a battle that Vassal can't win.
And I'm not gonna subject the player to this. If it's one thing I hate, it's trying to put a player into situations they cannot hope to win, so I'm just having Vassal take the L instead, and warn them not to challenge this knight.
They make off with the item after all, and it will be a bit before they can recover it.
Interesting
If y’all wonder where this is from, https://youtu.be/fNfz8ryTq2Q
I have a frosmoth raain team in 1800+
I am the master of the snom!
Wait, this was in the actual game?
Yes
10/10 dialogue
Meta calls are nice when they're very occasional
Just gonna mention: Snom is a very hungry fella
Feeding it is no laughing matter!
Yup
Iirc he says you can fly now in the overworld
That is incredible. I love it.
Hey that’s not fair
They gave it a better non hidden ability
This is also legit my first time properly seeing H avalugg
Weirdly enough, Hisuian Avalugg is way smaller than the standard one, and a lot lighter.
Goes from an aircraft carrier to Mr. Plow
H avalugg was so forgettable I completely forgot we got an H form
A lotta regionals are meh
How dare you disrespect Galarian Weezing like that
Wym it’s a good pun
it is but it also doesn't feel 100% fitting for a pokemon
I feel like Overqwil would've been a good name for a unique ability
or a move
If the Pokémon is poisoned, one-hit-ko them
Salazzle’s ability should have been “if the Pokémon is steel ohko then instead of poisoning them”
Boom I just checked steel for 1 entire Gen
I guess that legends arceus move barb barrage is neat
15 power multi hit move that doubles in power if target is statused, and it can inflict poison
I still love Obstagoon though.
Though, with how it ends up adding a new form of movement to the raccoon dogs (That is, refusing to budge), it does make me wish the Standard Linoone can evolve into a "Standard" Obstagoon
They should share, they go well together
I really did like Hisuian Sneasel
Sneasler is a bit dumb but it's a good kind of dumb
Especially since Weavile is way, way shorter than Sneasler is
Real talk, I feel like there should exist some poison-type moves that can inflict paralysis or sleep
Cause there's often a lot of Pokedex entries suggesting how some venoms can infiltrate one's nerves or induce a coma or whatnot
Hisui sneasel is an improvement over base sneasel, which is already peak pokemon design
Sneasler is more of a joke design
While weavile is cool, cute, and pretty
It's got personality, it's got everything
All sneasler has is the novelty of being long
Sneasel really is just the de-facto dark-type when it comes right down to it.
Instead of most dark-types trying to come off as menacing, evil or just 'kewl'
Sneasel really is just a spiteful jerk and that's alright.
I honestly think Pokémon lost the memo when it came to Pokémon designs around gen 5, since then I've noticed a higher ratio of designs I just... Don't like
Personally think they're just getting better, but I can see why
It might just be the 3d throwing me off but
Gen 8 was when design stopped clicking for me
Torkoal
I just
Did not vibe with gen 8
But that probs has to do with me dropping the franchise before gen 8
What's odd to me about this gen is I like most of the pre evos
We all hit some low points with Pocket Monsters, yeah
Then I look at the final stage and go "wtf went wrong"
It was 4 for me, but I got back into things with Black/White
My low point was 6, but I also was feeling eh about 5
4 gave me weavile and staraptor
Yeah, it happens. I still dunno what to think about Hattrene.
Meanwhile Impidimp is the opposite
4 gave me fire wukong
I could not care less about anything in gen 4 not named weavile and staraptor
I am happy
Goes from some shrieking gremlin, to... friggin' Aku, I guess
Raptor is my 2nd fave birb, was first for a looong time
As I was saying
Raptor was one of my top faves
And weavile is my no1 fave
Gen 5 gave me volcarona and Mienshao
Weavile, Furret, and Mienshao are p equal in terms of how much I like them
Weavile takes top 1 but the other 2 are p much the same
Precious nodls

That's just Ukanlos 
Actually got an event quest for that thing. Dunno if I'm most certainly ready for an Elder Dragon like that yet but I'm willing to do it
Yes
Corviknight, that’s fair- ah crap… I’ll be someone Taxi in British…
Man this person hates people born in August god damn
Gliscor? Aight, poison heal it be
the poison isn't poisonous to the mons that have poison heal
like how chocolate is poisonous to dogs but not to people
Acceptable
Yeah people didn't nitpick his visual design to hell and back
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I was getting smacked during my dark only playthrough of swsh
i just remembered how skidoo is probably one of the least obtainable normal pokemon in the series
it's only been available on 1 route ever
Aight, so i've decided on samurott, gallade, and h-goodra for my pla team
Any recommendations for the rest?
I got Charizard.
Yeah, that's right, come and get me
Oh wow
The ground and fire type pool in this game
Kinda sucks
Yea this team looks alright
Maybe put infernape on the 6th slot, idk
corviknight that's nice, surely Im in no danger
||Tinkaton preparing their hammer||
You play VGC kitty?
Any advice for somebody looking to get into comp play this gen? I messed around a bit last year but never went to regionals, this year I’m aiming to attend a couple of events
test with me kid
I wouldn’t mind if our schedules actually line up for once.
I plan on hitting the ground running in terms of prep for scarlet and Violet
Just need the actual vgc rulings to drop
YAMERO 
パルデア御三家中なんだかんだで二足歩行も四足歩行も安定してるホゲータ君なんか良いですよね
…まあみんな可愛いんですけど‼︎🥰っていう絵です
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The new gang practices being on fours and on twos
Same reason why I ‘kinda’ regret didn’t choose Cydaquil lol
I picked Osha, gotta stay with it 
Green kitties 
its funny because once sprigatito evolves ||into final evo, that espeon is gonna get hit for mass damage||
Okay to be fair, if I went with Typhosion, I would’ve gone for certain dead fish, but, the types clashed with Typhosion’s fire ghost
I guess Water Dark and Fire Rock growlithe was my best option, even tho Arcanine was kinda meh lol
WE ARE SO CLOSE TO SCARLET AND VIOLET :D!
Im gonna get Violet version, it's gonna use one of you to get the paradoxes
of scarlet
I’m probably gonna get scarlet
The only variable is getting it Friday or waiting until Christmas
because wheee family holiday shopping policies
Sableye suppprter in pokemon unite...
And it looks to be an offensive support!
Hmm yessss
I want him
Oh that’s the little gremlin’s use? Huh
I really should start look into Pokémon that I don’t use
Did the beta users say he’s good or bad? 
not sure
but he looks like my type of support
like in dota my most used supports are disruptor, lich and jakiro
disruptor has this ability which lets him send an opponent back to where they were 5 seconds ago and god is it lovely
Good supporter user is the goat 
your opponent thinks they got away but are now standing in front of your entire team
mr mime is my most used support in unite
Blissey here
Hoopa being ‘if I have to’ pokemon
I still don’t get how the diagonal portal or simple goal-portal works 
blissey is my least favourite
blissey is essentially the babysitting support, the one which pretty much has to stick to your friends to be useful
Yes 
but yeah, i generally dont play healing support in mobas XD
the supports i play generally are more offense oriented, the ones which mess with the opponent in some way
Same situation with me and big boi Mamoswine
Maybe it was during times me and my friend play together but I often think of myself as ‘the sacrifice’ lol
Keep that thing away from my stash 
thief lets him take stuff
knock off knocks them off the opponent
and he can do this, twice 😄
also makes it so the opponent cant immediately pick it up
oh god feint
lmao it's a mine
he can also set fake points on the ground
Wait so the gremlin drops them and also take them directly

the fake points are mines in which if the opponent tries to pick them up they explode
(note they arent actual points)
How painful are the mines 
not very, but they do slow you down and the gremlin can see around them
confuse ray might be better
Like, able to see the enemy on map with the mines 
yes
so spread them all over
Guess the ‘eye’ part in the name does do something
confuse ray makes it so your opponent gets taunted by the nearest pokemon near them
this includes and in fact, prioritizes allies
oh right, if the opponent cant see him, and he uses a skill, he becomes invisible
becoming visible if he attacks
so get prepared to get jump scared
he can also go invis with shadow sneak
makes him hit harder but youd have to sacrifice knock off for it
so i think knock off is just better lol
the gremlin is here to steal all your points lol
just the sheer jump scare of him appearing out of nowhere, using knock of, taking your stuff and then running away will be hilarious
They really made a Demoman x Spy from tf2 huh
shadow sneak will allow him to go invis in front of enemies though so maybe that will be nice instead of knock off if you decide to go harass their speedster
he's here to harass the speedster, steal all their points and then run lol
like 90% of this gremlin's plan is to steal from you and then make a break for it lol
Wait so, they made em a bomber and a spy but it can’t be both at the same time?
so its move are
prankster, makes him invis if no opponents around when using a skill, stays invis for a few seconds in front of the opponent
thief
steals aeos points
into
shadow sneak or knock off
shadow sneak turns invis even if opponent is around and gives more move speed, also lets it deal bonus damage, if you go out of invis you can shadow sneak again if not interrupted
knock off, dash (forwards and back) with a short stun, like a millisecond worth of stuff, if they have none the opponent is stunned for a bit longer, can be used a second time after the first where it turns into a swipe instead, shoves the opponent and knocks off aoes points, opponent cant pick up aoes points for a few seconds, also stuns same rule applies, both moves make him take less damage while he is using it
I’m aiming SCP-3108 at the little gremlin 
astonish
decreases movement speed, makes you deal more damage and movement speed decrease if used from behind
feint attack or confuse ray
feint attack
3 charges, fast recharge, can see around the fake points, the fake points explode upon contact dealing a DOT and decreases movement speed, apparently upgrades makes them drop more aoes points if DOT is active when they die
confuse ray
deals damage and makes opponent confused, basic attacking the nearest pokemon, priority: ally pokemon, wild pokemon, user's team
for upgrades
knock off makes him heal if he picks up aoes energy after using knock off
shadow sneak heals while active
feint attack makes oppo drop more orbs when they die while DOT is active
confuse ray gives opponent more movement and attack speed while confused
both versions of knock off knock off it seems
Wait, slight correction, it turns invis after like a second while out of enemy visible range

@pseudo goblet basically
The moment you can see it, good luck catching him XD
And killing it…
Mamoswine might an offensive tank but it’s damage are slow to build up
Aimining icicle crash is hard with how mid range it is too
Wait, if Sableye was already invisible, could it still get hit by attacks like Duraludon’s moves
Yes it still can get hit
You just cant see him
So Cinderace Basic attack works too, spam basic attack while protecting goal from sableye 
Scarlet violet is out on the 19th right?
18th
Oh damn that's 2 days away
This Friday
Two days left
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAA
Won’t be able to get my copy of Scarlet or Violet until next month 
So, before the big day comes, which version you guys getting?
i'll be gettingg scarlet but idk if I'm gonna get it friday or on christmas
i only have official reveals to go off of though
Scarlet seems like the stronger version
But also, I'll have to be really impressed with them post release to pick one up
And seeing what we've seen, that won't happen
i'm still really uncertain if I want to get it at release or somehow dodge spoilers for 5 weeks
IF I picked one up I'd go Violet, but I'm not buying it. I'm going straight to showdown if I wanted to play
I was originally going with violet but then I saw the ||future forms|| and they all look horrid
the bike is what i'm probably stuck with forever and i can trade for w/e i want so Violet for me ig
one day left here
So excited~
oh cool i found my other target gift card
so I'll only be spending like $40 on scarlet
Nice
If using a gift card you’re technically not breaking your family’s rules
how old are you now, Copper
old enough dek, old enough
Indeed
ye
Being at college has been a deeply illuminating experience when it comes to my relationship with my family
is for a lot of people
Probably should post this in Minecraft but I'm tempted to get the Pixelmon essentials pack
How's it?
singleplayer pixelmon imo is really boring
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@mighty storm https://twitter.com/pakkopako/status/1546039008173891584?s=46&t=GPaI6fqn3gVWYDEf6Oojcg

there was a comic like that with Gengar, except she died at the end 

It’s a semi-happy ending at least

one day
one day
one day
||These pokemon being mediocre is the biggest let down of this gen.||
The knights that is
Is this the first time a Pokemon game is actually getting reasonable review scores? Wild
It's mostly getting 75s, 7.5/10s, and whatnot
Aside from a 10/10 and 9.7 from review sites I’ve literally never heard of
Eurogamer even gave it a "Do not recommend at this time"
Saying the environment is lifeless and the limitations hold it back
wholesome
what
For some reason it's been a thing for a while that she bites the game
Oh, got it
See:
Stop that
So
Shiny odds
Like straight up actual bonified shiny odds
And not the speculation we had until now
Didn't base shiny rate change to 1/4000 instead of 1/4096
This is the more important piece of information https://twitter.com/kaphotics/status/1593267316719960065?s=46&t=TwW6FqSvZOw9Q6t0H3OMNg
@Sibuna_Switch Ride legendary has fixed IVs and nature. There's no way to soft reset it, but the outcome will always be the same. Feel free to soft reset for your starter :P
brain check
that means if you want new legendary ride IV and nature
you gotta restart the whole game?
Nope they just rounded down
thankfully you should have mints for IV/Nature customization, right?
Yes those are back
Did I do good this time 
Dang… steel tech with physical sync move…
Really would appreciate a Steel unit with Special nuke DENA
Or give me Raihan at least…
why eat the games!?
The games are officially out in Australia now I think
I dont have Australian Money 😦
Lol
Lmao even
Kotaku blaming SV performance issues on the switch itself
Rather than gamefreak being terrible at optimization
Idk, I am not her, a Japanese celebrity lmao
Funny how nothing has still peaked botw yet
botw isnt the best example, when the game lags when too many enemies are on the screen lol
nier idk about, but I would assume they made some extreme cuts graphically from its console version to get it running on the switch
I dunno, there's very few times I've played BoTW and it lagged like hell
Everything I've seen suggests SV lags like hell the entire time
That would be interesting to see. I remember SwSh had lag in the overworld due to the pokemon spawning on and off, but not in like the cities
Well note there's really no actual cities in SV
There's effectively no indoors outside of limited story areas
That was a big thing the reviews were disliking
And battles are definitely laggy as hell. As is exploration
Apparently the gyms are just open fields too
And the villain bases are auto battle minigames
I don’t really mind the open air gym idea
ok so...
what about dungeons
But it also limits cool setpiece gyms
do they have any
As forgettable as Ramos was in XY his gym was still cool
There's apparently like 3 story ones total
so is this just another yearly released pokemon game with little to no content?
Sounds like it
they havent learned their lesson from swsh?
They can release whatever they want and it’ll sell gangbusters regardless
Yeah Pokemon games sell insane regardless of quality
I just kinda enjoy the ride myself
It’s not like I can make any difference in game freak deciding to just coast
This one will get some praise, some bad feedback, but it'll outsell SwSh and they'll repeat next year for a game that's even less polished
it's just crazy with the dex cuts, you'd expect more care given to the actual game
I’m at least grateful we aren’t getting literally yearly mainline games
I've seen reviewers go "you can turn down overworld trainer battles when you think your team is getting too strong, it helps with keeping the challenge" and that's the funniest thing to me
i have the odd feeling that BDSP's artstyle was so scuffed because GF doesn't have the competence to translate all those dungeons and non-linear pathways into logical 3D mazes
I feel like the opposite should be the case
"If you ignore the gameplay loop of the game, you can actually enjoy the game"
also is it as easy as swsh
Yeah you should be underleveled if you ignore all the trainers. Not forced to ignore them to remain on the level curve
all I ask for is a harder playthrough
BDSP as a whole was so scuffed because they didn’t even give enough fucks to make it themselves
Nothing I've seen yet suggests there's any real challenge
Hell, they cut SET MODE
That one was funny too "Just always press B"
Also, disobedience applies to all Pokemon now, not just traded ones
Lmao what
So you can't get lucky and catch some guys on the wrong side of the map and go do the gyms that way
That makes sense I guess
It's to punish you for attempting that I guess? But it really limits the open world idea
wait so disobedience applies even if you want to go after the bigger gym leaders?
why
I admit I’m still kind of looking forward to SV but that’s because I am too much of an optimist and/or too easy to please
I guess realistically you could b-line it straight to the 8th to get the last badge if you really wanted to do that
But that sounds... Dumb
But like
You also have to deal with the obedience mechanic screwing you up if you even try to approach the level of what you are fighting
doesn't the obedience threshold only apply for traded mons
Read above
Not anymore
So they make the game "open world"
But not only do they not provide level scaling, they then double down on making sure you would not dare try certain out of order thigns
Like yeah you could probably get away with a gym or two above, but now beelining for the last gym or so is an immense pain
Remember this is the company that said nuzelocks are equivalent to hacking
As much as I do want to get scarlet it’s mainly because I am probably part of game freaks expectations for older players lol
Easy to please and fans of the series
It does really suck that GF continues to do the bare minimum improvements
Man I'm really sad to hear that there's really no cities to explore
There's alleyways and the illusion of cities, but you can't just go into buildings
That seems really dumb
Yup. Designing interiors is too hard, so they're not doing it anymore I guess
One step forward, 5 steps back, as is usual for game freak I guess
Not like SwSh really had cities either
But at least you could go in the 5 buildings in each town
Pretty much yeah
Man remember how Hoenn every city had a unique pallete for the interior of the houses
Those are a lot harder to do in 3D tbf
And Fortree architecture was different than Pacifidlog or Sotopolis
I admit I’m still probably gonna get scarlet (I still do not understand why anyone would ever want to buy both versions)
Game freak really just needs to be an actual real video game company in 2022
Instead of the indie team with the largest budget known to mankind
Wasn’t bdsp not even developed by GF?
Ye
I mean, look at how many options you have to decorate houses in Animal Crossing (also on the switch)
Even 1/3rd of that could make every Pokemon house feel unique
Hell, 1/5th
BDSP was done by an outside team
It was their first time ever doing a game as head developers iirc
It doesn't take much to make cool interiors
They were always a support studio before
Animal crossing also doesn’t use as much bandwidth in terms of research and development
Also, hard to say this game wasn’t taken care of, when we’re legitly getting everything people loved about PLA, if they didn’t care, we would have gotten another basic Pokémon template/encounters
We got like a few PLA features
Pokémon is trying to cover too many things nowadays, just go back to 2D 
But we can't even do overworld catching from PLA
Now if only they could add everything about the games before that people liked
You can throw a ball, but it starts a battle as opposed to going straight into the catching sequence
"We took that out to give a unique experience"
"Set Battle isn't a thing in Spain specifically"
Lmao
"Nobody expects the Spanish Regression"
It doesn't have to be animal crossing level cosmetics. You can put like 150 interior items in the game
But apparently there's like 0 actual interiors
Hell, look at Morrowind. 20 years old and has seem less transitions from inside to outside and actually has unique interiors
And then Skyrim, which is 10 years old has even more and is on the switch
With the time they have to pump out each game, I’d be surprised if they’ll try to do any interior design
Not saying these are good games, but even they have the content a game made in 2022 should have
Yeah, it's really the fact that every new gen is a rush job, less time spent than the last
With designing new Pokémon, I’m surprised they even had time to write dialogue
I mean they used the Team Skull twist two ||actually three|| times in a row
This is genuinely one of those few development situations where just throwing more people at the problem might at least alleviate it partially
I think the Pokémon company probably pushing PLA out and then expecting GF to turn around and apply a similar engine to the new Gen was an issue waiting to happen
Yep
PLA was Game Freak
Yeah that’s the point
BDSP wasn't, PLA was
GF just made PLA
So after PLA their time for the new Gen had to be ridiculously short
Yup, should have waited longer between releases and learned the right lessons from PLA
Yup
See I would have preferred PLA's monster hunter style over the open world if they were just gonna half ass the open world
If only they could learn the lesson that if they make an actually good game it’ll sell even better
At least then we could have had one city to explore
I can just download the JP version for the game and play it right away when I get home yeah?
Give us a hub city that expands overtime and then make the routes like PLA
Gamefreak isn't a small indie company
It isn’t a small indie company but their team headcount definitely feels like one and they have 2-4 years to complete it
Gen 6 and 7 were perfectly adequate given they were handheld games
That's entirely on gamefreak tho
Yeah game freaks issue’s absolutely partially stem from refusing to expand their teams to a reasonable number
And there was a split in teams after X and Y (or during?) which makes it worse
Like they don't get to go "Oh our team is small" as an excuse
So increase the headcount lol?
Game freak is one of the few cases where “just throw more people at it lol” is a viable solution
Why would they, their games still sell and games are being pumped out
They easily could hire more people per game
Better games will sell better
"it's difficult, they can't"
"They could"
"They won't"
Thanks for the input
It’s difficult with a small team
Then make the team bigger
They won’t increase team headcount
Therefore don’t expect too many fancy things
I don’t think their asking for too much lmao
But that shouldn't be the case from... Again, the biggest media franchise in the world
I mean I can accept that these games will forever be stagnant, but are we calling moderate overworld design "fancy?"
Or not constantly slashing features
At the end of the day I'd just like the games to feel like modern rpgs
From their pov it’s really more about cost and thinking that their investment in extra people won’t translate to as many extra sales as just pumping out games
Literally most successful media franchise ever btw
Correct, but suggesting to lower expectations just makes the problem worse
^
Especially after... we already have
We've lowered them time and time again
My suggestion is to lower expectations because they’re not going to change how they’re running if they still see success
This what having childhoods in a vice does to a company
With how big the franchise is, if everyone was hoping for the best, we'd have wanted SwSh to be a proper fully voiced open world game
But I'll just take a finished Pokemon game that doesn't look and run like shit now
And even that seems to be asking too much
And my suggestion is just to go play Showdown instead
Yeah honestly
Ye
All of this because Pokémon decided they wanted strict release schedules and 2 barebones teams
Thing is, I loved PLA
Why even make two versions anymore
Like it has a lot of issues
I get some people buy both
Because it still sells unfortunately
But I was thinking "this could be a start of a strong reboot for the series"
Like Frontiers, for all its problems, is giving Sonic fans hope that there will be legitimate improvement from hereon out now that there's a formula in place people really like.
This, would be like if the next Sonic game to come out was Forces 2
If they started now, expect it in about 15-20 years
Complacency and refusing to throw reasonable amounts of people at the series is why pokemon improves at such a stagnant pace
Guessing it also played a factor in why Journeys fell apart
As much as I love the series and am probably gonna get scarlet at some point
I still want it to be better
I mean, I stopped buying those games long ago, why do you guys still buy it if you know it just got worse 
If sales really get bad then maybe they’ll improve
I mean some of us here talking don't
Sales will never get bad though
At best they’ll stagnate
And Pokémon sales stagnating literally means nothing with how well they sell
You cannot reasonably expect to cause a boycott over this without something on par to Kanye
And I am not buying the game, but accept that I am one person in a huge ass marketplace
Then move on to another ip, if people still buy this then it shows that people still want it and nothing will change
I move on to Showdown

Also there are people who are seemingly ok with the repeated declines in quality, which is weird to me
Literally said I was not buying the game and that it is way too big a movement to cause boycott over
That’s how the company thinks and people are just too invested for no reason
I’m saying in general
People are attached to a series they like
Whoda fucking guessed
People are attached and buy every game, games get worse, and even if they’re worse, people are attached so they still buy
So from their pov it doesn’t matter
There’s no need to get better
Pokémon is a series with such overwhelming momentum even if a lot of people stop buying it doesn’t matter
So they decide to enjoy the games anyways
i'm glad I never fell into that kind of attachment
That's utterly bizarre to me
Last time I did that was 11 years ago and COD Ghosts was thankfully a mistake I made early
I like things if they are good, not because they were once good
I enjoy showdown more
Let's me do the pokemonning without playing the fallen-off games
Some people just have lower standards or are easier to please 
It sucks, but I admit i still enjoy it
I’m still not 100% committed to getting scarlet or violet but I’m still very much considering it
I never really enjoyed the multiplayer part of Pokémon so showdown is less appealing to me
Thankfully the parts of Pokémon I enjoy are the designs & ecologies
Which I don't need the games for
This whole conversation is kinda why I’m on the fence despite being pretty confident I’d enjoy the, regardless (I fully admit to being easy to please)
Now if enough people agree with you guys and don’t buy the game because they don’t feel it’s worth their money, then gf will have to re-evaluate
Pirate it then
And tons of people do
Wait I thought we weren’t allowed to suggest pirating here
Can't link or promote pirating links I think
I don’t pirate currently commercially available games, period
But I might be wrong
I don't pirate currently commercially available games because I CBA figuring out how
That’s part of why for me also
But I also just don’t pirate games period unless I can’t reasonably obtain them legitimately for at or below their original price
I pretty much only pirate if I know the game is a mess and I just want to experience it firsthand
Which has been true for pretty much every Pokémon release for a couple years
Also on the topic of Pokémon ecology
Toucannon looks nothing like Pikipek or Trumbeak
Unfortunately Pokemon is a franchise a lot of people have an investment in since childhood
My not buying the game won't cancel out a guy who knows it's bad and gets it anyways' purchase
People have a large emotional attachment and wanna get the games or at the very least see them be good
Yeah
I admit I’m kind of in the emotional attachment category myself
And that’s a huge part of why I’m so conflicted about it
What negative reviews are you guys referring to btw? All of the big websites have something similar to "This game does more to push the games forward than any game in recent memory"
The biggest complain as stated is the optimization
A lot of them are saying "the game is fine for a Pokemon game" basically
which, welcome to AAA gaming companies. Call of duty just had the biggest disaster launch of all time
I should probably give PLA a try at some point
IGN's review isn't done from what I see
Also Polygon said "Pokemon Scarlet and Violet's open world is a facade" while then saying "We wanted the game to be more linear so we don't get into fights we're not ready for"
like what
The open world is a facade tho
You can't go off to do what you want because you're super underleveled and there's no scaling
And you can't even go catch a mon to breeze through it with because of the obedience changes
There's effectively a correct route and the only way to give yourself a challenge is forcefully ignore it
level scaling isn't a breathing and living world btw
if life was an rpg, i can't go fight a lion a level 1 scrub
Wait is there no like
It'd take all of an hour to make it so each gym leader has 8 teams
low level versions of mons in each area so you can get stuff early
One per level order
There are
Well they're scaled like regular routes
Areas have a set level minimum and maximum
And it's like 5-6 levels difference
So you can't go straight to the ice area or whatever and go catch a cetoddle
So say I have like the first badge and go halfway across the map or smth, I can get like a level 15 Hatenna among the big bois
The illusion of an open world
They can claim there's one because technically there's one, but you've gotta do the open world in order
Why couldn’t they just like
patches of grass in each route to account for that
or just sectioned off corners
Hell, there's not even nretoutrd that open up once you level up the legendary
say for an intended lategame area you’d have like idk, Golems in the ‘main’ point that you’d expect people to go through by just walking through the area
but go off the path a bit and you’ll find geodudes so you can get it early
Like you know how in old games there were places that you couldn't accent until you got X HM that'd be on the early routes?
Like, well, Mt Coronet and having new paths opened by strength and stuff
There's apparently basically nothing like that either
Seriously they would get better mileage if their open world is on 2D sprites
||is actually obtaining the legend also locked behind story||
||It's just given to you randomly||
||You "level it up" at a point and it eventually becomes the legendary||
||But you just find him chilling on a route||
He's in your party from the start
no I get it’s with you the whole game
You just can't use him until X arbitrary time
||Nah, it's just given to you||
I fucking love everything to do with the box legends and ||paradox nerds||
but I don’t even care for most of the new mons
Maybe I’ll wait on SV to see if game freak decides to try and improve the performance post launch
||it's actually a really cool moment when you get it||
||like massive story moment||

oof the reviews arent kidding about the terrible performance
#PokemonScarletViolet #NintendoSwitch
This clip does make getting the game day 1 a much easier choice

Still kinda undecided though
Guaranteed it's cause that bridge either has too high res textures or has way too many polygons
Game freak notoriously does not optimize assets
Next game: removed all hi-res objects with low-res versions
They said this was on actual hardware in hand held mode
I admit to still being skeptical but I can totally see it yeah
Handheld mode is something I don’t use much
I only use handheld
I only use handheld too, I’d be interested to know though if this is on the switch lite devices though
I have the OG switch
And I heard the switch lites were way worse
hard to imagine switch lite being way worse
The switch lite runs the same hardware as the og switch
It just doesn't have the tv stuff
In this case given the switches ability to run way more intense games much better
Gamefreak just doesn’t optimize games huH
Also they specified launch-era switch
It's the regular one
But fr, how does it run that bad
bad rendering algorithm ig
waiting for the nuclear fallout when the new pokemon anime MC gets revealed
Subtle but good
Also might want to spoiler these if they haven't been officially revealed
game is released in various parts of the world now
in that sense, they are officially revealed
still wouldn't suggest like throwing around story spoilers or w/e willy nilly
The Fuecoco one would have IMO been so much cooler if the flames also changed color at least a little bit
Blue flames
Australia
Ah I see
upside down country getting games early 
Isn't it 2 weeks before it's considered fair game?
shiny info is fair game from day 1
Not for unrevealed pokemon
Also... The game is still not out in the majority of the world
At least give it the weekend
yeah it seems kinda callous to immediately post spoilers you were unhappy with people posting 12 hours ago
Meal what are you talking about
Not everybody gets access to the game day 1
Two weeks, Summer
but that last part
It's currently 9am in Australia
12 hours ago it wouldn't've been release day
and you would've been mad if people had posted spoilers
ok but the "unhappy" part, what
You've literally complained about people posting spoilers.
How is this difficult for you?
Have some minor amount of respect, or empathy, or whatever for other people and have a grace period for posting obviously spoilery shit in this channel
when was I unhappy?
Love how you're completely avoiding the very obvious point


we have a spoiler channel for a reason.
so that people who don't want to have stuff spoiled can still come to this channel to talk about pokemon
The fact that the game got released in Australia has no bearing on this
It's really not difficult
I absolutely do think it’s silly they haven’t revealed the starter evos officially but still excited to learn them naturally
ye
Although I still need to actually decide if I want to get the games now or not
But yeah, at the bare minimum give it the weekend
They're not even out in the states
Usual courtesy spoiler is 2 weeks anyways
Exactly, but I'm saying that it's likely you'd be spoiled before then
Weekend is the least you can do to avoid it here
Also Summer you've posted the same things already in the spoiler chat
Cubostiondon real?
Btw if you arent looking at shinies before hand, good luck not missing some of them
less assistance then PLA
Just warning
Lets go Feature should help you at least
It seems your switch is going critical
I've been hearing that the game has been experiencing performance issues. 😳
yeah I cant be bothered to either walk in the dark for physical release, or wait till 12 o clock (Afternoon) to not get to play the game until AFTER I walk a mile to gamestop and back 
so I just said "fuck it, digital purchase"
I did get Scarlet btw, because volcarona is baby
Da floof moth
Im going to shiny hunt this
especially since shiny "exclusives" in Scarlet are better then their Violet counterparts
at least the nugget can help buy balls
It's certainly something ig
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I found this video pretty valuable
I prefer phillybeatzu's
Time to spend the right of the night deciding if I wanna wait until Christmas or not to get scarlet lmao
Scarlet is better version ❤️
Scarlet is better for comp
At least for expected early meta
Violet has the cooler ||paradox|| imo
||iron hands|| ftw
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Alright going in now
Customizing trainer time 
so much customization
The start of Summer, Scarlet edition
joycons match the ones you have currently, neat touch
i think... we should put all sv stuff in the sv thread
some general non-spoilers can be posted here
and news and such
but all threads regarding gameplay goes unspoilered in the sv specific thread
wait, anyone have the GX edit?
found it
Get your Game on and yes this is because this is the one game where we go to an academy
Song: Get your game on - Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
Gonna probably start playing violet tomorrow
Im staying up for a bit
fuck my character makes me want to dye my actual hair scarlet
also why is the mom hot this gen 
was gonna start tonight with my gf but shes not feelin well so ill wait til tomorrow
er today but the mnorning
Why are these two so hot
Anyway I guess if Farigiraf is in both versions
I will get the one with
Good (or bad) news, seems like Ash is gonna continue his journey despite the recent event
he never ages so why not
I was under the impression that his goal was fullfilled at this point
the kid wants some of that gen 9 weirdness
disappointing
Totally waiting to see Ash saying ‘being the World champion is not enough, my goal is to become to pokemon master’ lol
don't be mean, let the kid go to school for like the first time ever...
he suck being 10, what do u want him to do, get a job ?
You mean ‘second’ time? Lol
that's the joke
Ah
I think I know the answer for this, but I want to double check.
For Wind Rider, do the boosts you get from Tailwind and being hit by a Wind move stack?
For example, let's say the Player has a Pokémon with Wind Rider and an ally that sets up Tailwind.
Then the Opponent uses Air Cutter, which is a...
God loaded dice is wack
As I said previously, I very much rather to see Ash again, so this I’m happy with
And it makes bullet seed and the like if you rolled 3 or lower you get like a 50/50 shot at either hitting 4 or 5 times
Naturally population bomb is still better with wide lens cause you chances of hitting 0 is 1% compared and to hit 10 is still roughly 90%
Wait i made a mistake with population bomb and loaded dice
And i missed the 0-6 minus to population bomb
So its actually a 90% chance to hit 4-10 times
A 1/7 for 10 times after the 90
Damn so even worse 
Yeah just run wide lens lol
oof the reviews arent kidding about the terrible performance
#PokemonScarletViolet #NintendoSwitch
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Bro
Heh, even the other teacher trainers are interested, how cute
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please let me get a female starter game
does resetting for gender not work anymore or am i just massively unlucky
It should work afaik
finally okay
I was worried that it like determined the data before you can choose
Like when you’re running around with them
The starters are shiny locked I know that much
Anyone got a better naming theme?
mitzy is perfect
I see no better name than honoring your beloved companion
it does
Because if it does then Mitzy will sound weird

Fucc
New name, immediate lol
if you wanna get spoiled
Um
idk why i censored a link but
For sword I did herbs/spices and eventually foods
So I gotta figure out my naming scheme
Drinks
Nemona seems comically gay for the protagonist already
have you guys seen hikers tho
Just got terastalization
So i found out that playing on handheld mode increases my fps
Seems kinda obvious but idk why i never tested it before
Playing the new Pokémon, games visually fine rn, few moments where the shadows get absolutely crunched and stairs are just ramps re textured so your ankles get clipped through them but otherwise fine





