the only bear we need is the moon god ursaluna
#Pokemon
placid junco
outer eagle
Specs A-Ninetales Blizzard calcs pls
crimson moat
It does, but your Urshifu can only do this once per game
So if they switch out you just wasted Ursh
Urshifu can pressure Ursaluna any time it comes in, but it can only switch in once
Also it can only switch in if the move Ursa uses isn't Facade
Or Headlong Rush, if that stays 120
outer eagle
crimson moat
LMFAO
vagrant steppe
Wrong thing
crimson moat
What a list
outer eagle
Cloyster 
silver vigil
Remember to spoiler folks :)
vagrant steppe
Oh so Ninetales doesn't matter because she's not in the game
Ehh, fair. I just don't think it matters for returning mons
silver vigil
I like how ||every good gen 8 mon is in the dex||
vagrant steppe
People aren't gonna go "wtf they brought houndoom back"
outer eagle
Banded Victini V-Create should be able to do the job
silver vigil
Houndoom is confirmed via poster
outer eagle
and it has enough bulk to survive at least 1 Facade i think
vagrant steppe
Yeah but I mean even for ones that aren't confirmed, it's not really a spoiler to know if a mon is coming back
silver vigil
people just get really picky about pokemon spoilers
and idw anyone yelling at me because of that 
crimson moat
and it has enough bulk to survive at least 1 Facade i think
It will not survive Facade without Defensive investment
AND V Create isn't guarantee OHKO
vagrant steppe
That's fair
outer eagle
sadge
vagrant steppe
I just fail to see how returning mons are a spoiler
outer eagle
welp Cloyster it is
vagrant steppe
Wait can cloyster 1HKO
crimson moat
V Create is a 25% chance of OHKO with max investment and Jolly
75% with Adamant nature
silver vigil
this is all assuming the ursaluna doesn't tera
outer eagle
if it Teras to a different type
crimson moat
Oh shit wait
outer eagle
then you don't have to worry too much about getting swept
crimson moat
I forgot to give Ursa HP EVs
vagrant steppe
Oh shit
outer eagle
ffs
vagrant steppe
Yeah Ursa is the new god
crimson moat
V Create does not guarantee OHKO even after burn chip
That first calc was no defense investment
252+ Atk Choice Band Victini V-create vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Ursaluna: 387-456 (83.4 - 98.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage
outer eagle
you're assuming max HP as the baseline right
crimson moat
now I am yeah
outer eagle
what's the calculator you're using
crimson moat
Before I just had the 252 ATK for the switch in check
Showdown's gen 8, substituted Abomasnow's base stats for Ursa's
outer eagle
i see
crimson moat
Victini can only safely switch into Ursa on Fire Punch and cannot OHKO
Checked Pelipper
Can switch into anything but Facade, Weather Ball will OHKO without Specs
the standard Doubles Rain set beats Ursaluna
fading stratus
What was the calc Vs levitate gengar again
They'll give us levitate gengar 
outer eagle
that's assuming no Tera right?
outer eagle
Jolly Banded Cloyster OHKO with Icicle Spear
crimson moat
Max investment Ice Beam from Glaceon does not OHKO Ursaluna
crimson moat
Jolly Banded Cloyster OHKO with Icicle Spear
What's hilarious about this is that Cloyster still can't switch in on Facade kek
golden lance
What about rotom?
outer eagle
What's hilarious about this is that Cloyster still can't switch in on Facade kek
have you tried giving it max HP
Cloyster has 70 base Speed
crimson moat
You can, but that just adds to the metagame idea that eventually Max Speed Ursaluna will be a thing
To fuck people up on that
crimson moat
What about rotom?
Well for starters, Wash Rotom cannot switch in on Facade
crimson moat
jfc we are gonna optimize Cloyster
outer eagle
you actually have a lot of room for EV modification tbf
especially if you only care about post-Burn killing
crimson moat
Looking at Wash Rotom, it can switch into Fire Punch or EQ, but it cannot OHKO Ursaluna without Special attack investment...
Actually lemme check that part
Yeah you would need a specially offensive Wash Rotom to have a chance at OHKOing with Hydro Pump
outer eagle
rotom wash gets dunked by Facade tho
maiden flax
Tbf basculegion has a priority water recoil move
vagrant steppe
Man Luna really did get the freest meta known to man
crimson moat
Regular Rotom can switch into any move other than Fire Punch, but can't even reasonably damage Ursaluna
A pokemon immune to Ground and Normal
Fighting a pokemon immune to Ghost and Elec
Fire Punch wins
outer eagle
Rotom-Wash has to invest so much in bulk just to avoid getting highrolled by Facade omg
crimson moat
Whiscash cannot OHKO Ursaluna without Specs Hydro Pump
golden lance
Ok but can luna switch into kyurem?
crimson moat
Whiscash also can only switch into Fire Punch
Ursaluna cannot switch into a DDance booster Kyurem
if boosted once, Kyurem will KO it in 2 hits and outspeed it
If Ursaluna switches in on the boost, it will fall just short of OHKOing Kyurem
Assuming Ursaluna doesn't get a base 120 fighting move
vagrant steppe
Man I think the worst part of this is that there's really no reason no to run Luna, and you can play suboptimally and still sweep
Luna is too strong with 0 downsides
placid junco
they'll probably give ursaluna close combat lol
crimson moat
If Ursaluna gets like Close Combat or Superpower, it can KO Kyurem switching in when Kyurem DDances that turn
placid junco
if fucking golisopod gets close combat in gen 8 I'm sure luna will get it in gen 9
vagrant steppe
Oh my god if Luna gets close combat the format has exactly 1 Mon
See but the difference is Golisopod is bad
placid junco
true
but it's also big dumb slow and bulky
so ursaluna also getting close combat seems likely
vagrant steppe
Oh yeah you're right
The only saving grace is them maybe realizing Luna is insanely good and not giving it to him
placid junco
god I wish Golisopod had a useful ability
or even an ability that did literally nothing
vagrant steppe
But that sounds like cope because they've buffed Lando-T twice
placid junco
would be better than emergency exit
maybe give the pokemon e exit swaps into some kind of temporary stat boost
vagrant steppe
That'd work
crimson moat
HELL YEAH HOT AIR BALLOON COPE
vagrant steppe
You know the meta is gonna be bad when we hit drifblim cope
outer eagle
what you gonna do? Air Slash Luna for 30%?
placid junco
Or give it a boost to moves that switch
golisopod doesn't learn any switch moves
i think giving some kind of buff to the pokemon that switches in off emergency exit would be good
crimson moat
Drifblim Destiny Bond vs. 252 HP Ursaluna = GG EZ U DED
Drifblim also cannot be One shot by Fire Punch
placid junco
either that or make E exit give priority to switch moves and give Golisopod u turn lol
crimson moat
The tastiest fucking copium ever
outer eagle
does Ursaring have Taunt or anything
placid junco
ye
outer eagle
it realistically only needs 3 slots for attacking moves
vagrant steppe
Wow really cool we've gotta run a mon to destiny bond itself just so we can answer Luna
crimson moat
4MSS due to Drifblim copium
vagrant steppe
Yeah you just run facade, earthquake, flex slot, and ig taunt
placid junco
maybe thunder punch
vagrant steppe
Taunt answers drifblim cope and more relevant dangers
crimson moat
Also checked Avalugg, 2 shot by Luna and cannot outspeed it
vagrant steppe
I'd assume all 2 shots are 1 shots under tera
crimson moat
Max Speed Max Atk Power Whip from Dhelmise KO's if Life Orb is applied
Takes 2 hits from EQ
Immune to Facade
Outspeeds Ursaluna if Luna has no speed investment and Dhelmise does
vagrant steppe
How likely is that tho
crimson moat
0%
crimson moat
you are building Dhelmise for pure copium
vagrant steppe
Everything seems to be pure copium
Since reminder, if you're dedicating a slot to Luna answers, that's a slot you're down on your own team
Although I guess it doesn't matter because you're likely gonna be running your own Luna
crimson moat
I'd say Pelipper is so far the best answer
vagrant steppe
Pelipper at least does stuff outside of Luna, yeah
crimson moat
So yeah for me Pelipper is the best unironic answer and my pure copium pick is Destiny Bond Drifblim
crimson moat
aw fuck
vagrant steppe
Yeah...
placid junco
Oh god
Close combat teddiursa about to rule little cup
crimson moat
Yeah then Kyurem literally can't answer Luna
maiden flax
You know what will be fun?
If for some reason they dont insta ban shadow tag this gen
placid junco
I can’t wait to see teddiursa banned from little cup
vagrant steppe
Yeah I'm hoping for Gengar cope
placid junco
Don’t bother
Cope of drifblim
bleak pine
Was the Generations set rslevant in the TCG or was it Nostalgia pandering?
crimson moat
pandering
crimson moat
Generations is probably the set with the least impact in the game to play
next to reprint packs ofc
bleak pine
Loving the Cannibox Gimmighoul.
mighty storm
You need Pogo
bleak pine
But yeah, right pain that it has to be tied to GO
mighty storm
so this will have it's roaming form available once POGO can connect to SV
also optimal coin farming would be to smack its chest form in the wild
10-50 coins per drop apparently
which definitely beats hunting down wisps like spiritomb did in PLA
placid junco
long stone
looks like a Cyberse
long stone
Not a fan of the like.. artefacts
that's when you just appy a filer :V
last musk
Usage of the word artefacts here is valid
I personally would like them if they were coloured the same as the energy
placid junco
crimson moat
https://twitter.com/BroSauce_Spaget/status/1589136664412049413?s=20&t=FHrDdV-sW7...
Now's your chance to be a [Dynamax]
sand forge
I personally would like them if they were coloured the same as the energy
yeah, I never got the gist that Pokemon were being digitised
But then again I'm not sure what else you could explain the Pokeball technology as
last musk
They shrink
Pokémon can naturally shrink
As for what the pc is... Idk bill sold his soul to darkrai
sand forge
Is that canon?
last musk
Oh they retconned it?
sand forge
Did the apricorns have the ability to naturally digitise pokemon
void herald
idk
last musk
Iirc the original explaination was they shrink into the balls
void herald
oh nvm apparently they went back to the shrinking thing in legends
last musk
oh nvm apparently they went back to the shrinking thing in legends
Guaranteed that's because of the pop in
sand forge
https://twitter.com/kianamaiart/status/1589281073246400513?s=20&t=eY4eWa1vXYAoqw...
I think if it were a Ghost-type infesting a Pokeball that'd be a neat thing too
long stone
Usage of the word artefacts here is valid
no one said it isn't
i'm just saying it was applied as a filter, that's why it seems out if place.
last musk
Oh I see, I misinterpreted what you said, my apologies
long stone
np
long stone
Did the apricorns have the ability to naturally digitise pokemon
Legends says that all pokemon can shrink in size and that's how you can catch them in a ball
weird tbh
sand forge
Sure, though I think Pokemon being digitised is also kinda weird
long stone
cuz u never see em doing that normally
sand forge
Though I fully appreciate that's gameplay and lore colliding
long stone
then again we have shit like rotom and porygon
sand forge
is that via time portals
Rotom I don't have any sort of issue with
it's just a ghost that has evolved to infest machines
long stone
yeh but they are still digital mons
last musk
cuz u never see em doing that normally
You do in legends arceus and sword and shield
When wild Pokémon spawn, they're initially small and then their models scale up
sand forge
However one thing I will not stand for is the Rotomdex
long stone
I wanna see an old-timey Magnemite
Rock/Electric
sand forge
ye
last musk
Which leads me to believe the whole they shrink thing was just to explain away bad render distances
sand forge
Made of lodestones/whatever Nosepass is made of
mighty storm
Like do you ever see Porygon in the wild
yes
sand forge
You don't have to ping me to give an answer I was already given
what the hell does this mean
sand forge
One boy's invention being what though
vagrant steppe
Rotom?
sand forge
that sux
bleak pine
Likely the various machines they can enter into in unique formes.
Way I see it is, they can enter a lot of other machines and contraptions, but these ones are likely the only ones that are 'battle-tested' as it were.
sand forge
Given their propensity for fuckery, I can't believe people allowed them in their phones
bleak pine
I do find it fascinating how this is, taking a mon most known for it's main gimmick on taking control of machines to cause havoc, and devising many different sorts of hardware for it to control to enhance the lives of people and mons.
Though, admittedly I feel a typical Rotom would usually be too mischievous to be too helpful with most jobs.
sand forge
I assume Rotom is just a stand-in for AI helpers in this case, which is fine
but Rotom bike??
bleak pine
Yeah, motor-driven bikes do exist.
And not even like motorcycles either, actual electric bikes
How it worked is that it does seem to work off the Rotom-Phone one has, so there's that.
void herald
One boy's invention being what though
i'm pretty sure they explained this in platinum
the boy was charon
the invention was the machines that rotom can possess
sharp kernel
Eh only poison Pokémon I saw was whooper
And he’s ugly
I think a mono bug run might be what I do
Everybody else seems to be looking at mono ghost runs
civic flint
Yeah cuz there are already a ton of ghosts revealed so far
vagrant steppe
That's fake as shit lmao
I'm pretty sure it's a Mario enemy
Supposedly it's real, which is stupid af
That looks AWFUL
placid junco
It’s literally just fuecoco with a different face and a hat
mighty storm
they have multiple pictures
vagrant steppe
Yeah it's really lazy and ugly af
placid junco
I’m calling BS
mighty storm
Tauros 😮
vagrant steppe
I swear the art direction this gen is REALLY bad if it's real
placid junco
There’s no way it’s real
vagrant steppe
sleek sky
so wait
do we trust these images or not
vagrant steppe
And Smoliv evo
mighty storm
placid junco
That’s the only one I could see being legit
vagrant steppe
so wait
do we trust these images or not
I wanna call bs on all three being ugly as shit
placid junco
So no
mighty storm
found the leaker
placid junco
The fuecoco one literally can’t be real
vagrant steppe
But if they're real, I'm even more disappointed
placid junco
Not even TPC is that much of a lazy hack
vagrant steppe
Man it'd also be like vaguely racist?
placid junco
Yeah
vagrant steppe
Like it's Spain, slapping a sombrero on it feels sorta racist
placid junco
It’s not even racist to the actual fucking country the game is based on
mighty storm
I did wonder how they were supposed to do the egg
sleek sky
We going back to Jynx-era pokemon design?
vagrant steppe
Yeah exactly
mighty storm
yes thats an egg on the hat
placid junco
TPC is a lot of things in 2022
But racist they are not
placid junco
Yeah how else could their fake leak get racism controversy points if it was blurry
placid junco
It’s literally just fuecoco with different eyes
vagrant steppe
It's still sombrero themed
placid junco
And a stupid thing on its head
vagrant steppe
And that's pretty racist tbh
vagrant steppe
Like it's definitely deliberately a sombrero
placid junco
You mean aside from the fuecoco 
mighty storm
well if it makes anyone feel better, the final evo is supposed to have a fire chicken on their head
placid junco
Like that supposed fuecoco mid EVO is so lazy I’m pretty sure even TPC holds itself to a higher bar than that
mighty storm
this screams quilladin vibes where the midevo is SUPER bad
placid junco
This is literally just fuecoco with a different face and a sombrero
I genuinely cannot believe it is real, even putting my distrust of leakers aside
vagrant steppe
Yeah I'd be super disappointed if these are real
mighty storm
suddenly quaxly is looking a lot better
placid junco
Like this makes Quilladin look not garbage
mighty storm
me about to box starter for ninja run cuz I cant use sprigatito twice
placid junco
And the ||bull|| just looks so generic I can’t believe it’s real either
void herald
yeah i highly doubt this is real
placid junco
It’s literally just a Tauros someone used the paint bucket tool on
mighty storm
oh my gosh, timing. Cherokee word of the week posted bison, and we saw tauros leak
wait are bisons bulls?
or technically different?
void herald
i think they're technically different?
vagrant steppe
A male bison would be called a bull
sleek sky
so a male bison would be a bull
vagrant steppe
But they're not the same animals
placid junco
The only remotely realistic one is the smoliv evo, and that just looks like a remixed hisuian liligant
mighty storm
Gimidome
new image of fuecoco evo
I do think they meant to go for a nest vibe then sombrero, still looks sus
vagrant steppe
They wouldn't have made it circular if it wasn't supposed to be a sombrero
sleek sky
I mean they could want to evoke both images
sleek sky
on the one hand I feel like someone could make a case how it looks photoshopped because of bad layering
on the other hand maybe that's how pokemon games just look in current year
vagrant steppe
Yeah it looks bad, but that might just be pokemon
sleek sky
the Ludicolo line at least has a sensible aesthetic progression
the lilypad hat of lotad carries on through the evolutions
vagrant steppe
Yeah it's at least thematic
sleek sky
this is an egg-nest-sombrero out of basically nowhere
placid junco
I still don’t think this is very realistic
(But also maybe spoiler these images going forward anyways)
sleek sky
my conclusion is
a definite maybe
vagrant steppe
Yup. I had to spoiler the returning mons list
I'm leaning towards real unfortunately
sleek sky
that second angle
hmm
it does look kind of simple
it wouldn't be super hard to draw that up
but then again complexity isn't a sign of how "realistic" a pokemon design is
the existence of a second angle at all feels like it lends credibility
for better or worse
sleek sky
Jotlico is the leaker confirmed
last musk
Lmao if only
vagrant steppe
Damn, that sucks
last musk
But these are real, the level of artefacts is consistent and so is the border thickness and discolouration from the camera
I would be amazed if this were fake
vagrant steppe
Yeah, they'd be impressive fakes
mighty storm
I want to see bugs
vagrant steppe
But also... They look so bad
mighty storm
show early game bugs plez
last musk
Yeah the naming and model on the smoliv evolutions confirmed it for me
Dolliv as in doll olive, the consistent eyes
void herald
i feel like i'd need to see the art of these before i form an opinion on them
these are really blurry pictures
vagrant steppe
I dunno, I can't see them looking much better from a different angle
placid junco
He’s dead Jim
mighty storm
can someone translate?
placid junco
I might just have to bail from this thread to avoid spoilers
crimson moat
I might bail from this thread to avoid ugly
vagrant steppe
Probably a good idea
crimson moat
Jfc
vagrant steppe
But fr @mighty storm spoiler tag stuff
last musk
You know what you could be doing instead of being spoiled copper, finishing dragalia
placid junco
You know what you could be doing instead of being spoiled copper, finishing drag...
I know but school and other personal projects are a fuck
I at least started chapter 25 yesterday
last musk
Ayy nice
placid junco
So the big hump is passed
Aside from the monstrous like 4 hour stretch of the final 25% of what I have left to do lmao
vagrant steppe
mighty storm
AHHH cute mon (?) leaked, and also a bug
vagrant steppe
There's a bug
crimson moat
that looks a lot like ||Noibat||
vagrant steppe
Wow ||"Flamigo" is just literally a flamingo||
golden lance
||At least cramorant tried being unique||
void herald
||there's no way flamigo is real, i refuse to believe they're going back to that kind of design||
vagrant steppe
Man there's so many misses this gen design wise
void herald
this is like krabby levels of boring monster design
placid junco
I mean after Gen 7 being banger after banger after banger
You can only have so many good designs
mighty storm
yeah apparently it evolves
civic flint
Mommy
crimson moat
Gen 7.
Where the new mon designs are ok and the alolan forms mostly suck
mighty storm
or does it
void herald
i think this might genuinely be my least favorite pokemon ever
mighty storm
includes typing
void herald
it's so boring
crimson moat
Not even a ||Flame-ingo|| joke
vagrant steppe
That's how I feel about the racist starter too, but man...
crimson moat
Yeah this generation is really tanking designs
Gen 8 had a few bad ones but most were fine]
void herald
||sombreros at least are a thing in spain||
mighty storm
guys the|| Kamen rider|| will be good
vagrant steppe
||sombreros at least are a thing in spain||
They're not tho. They're Mexican
civic flint
The flamingo has a pun name on amigo
crimson moat
Which... adds what
civic flint
He is your friend
vagrant steppe
They were Mexican farming hats that sorta got adopted elsewhere
crimson moat
Not my friend
mighty storm
The flamingo has a pun name on amigo
he a fren :O?
but his type
is ||fighting/flying||
void herald
yes
vagrant steppe
Hawlucha
void herald
yea
vagrant steppe
And Galarian Zapdos
crimson moat
Hawlucha probably better
vagrant steppe
Both are
void herald
They're not tho. They're Mexican
yeah it didn't originate there but there are people who wear it there
vagrant steppe
Yeah but that's the case for everywhere
civic flint
but his type
Yeah i got the dex open in another page
vagrant steppe
It just feels like they mixed up their Spanish speaking countries
sleek sky
oh apparently ||flamigo is a balloon animal||?
civic flint
Current set of leaks are all real
sleek sky
is that a question or a statement
civic flint
Statement
vagrant steppe
Man I was hoping they wouldn't be
civic flint
They line up with what's been rumored/leaked
vagrant steppe
They definitely do
crimson moat
||Also Rotom talking to player|| might be back
mighty storm
I like the ||tauros||
mighty storm
Btw, about the leaked regional mon
black background= speculated type
||fighting type, fighting/?fire?, and fighting/water||
sleek sky
anyone track any story beats from spoilers?
vagrant steppe
Wait why is it just pure black then
mighty storm
nah no story spoilers yet
vagrant steppe
It's like they literally colored it in the paint tool
sleek sky
well, not major story beats
mighty storm
Wait why is it just pure black then
||regional tauros. There is 3 this is the basic one||
sleek sky
but some of the leaks had dialogue that seems vaguely story relevant
vagrant steppe
Nah I get that, but why is it just the regular model, but black
mighty storm
I just want ||grasshopper leaked!||
sleek sky
story beat leak
||at some point someone hacks your omnitool to communicate with you||
mighty storm
damn people be ||hacking rotom phones in SV||
vagrant steppe
story beat leak
||at some point someone hacks your omnitool to communicate with ...
"So what do you mean by "trolling"?"
sleek sky
(don't forget to spoiler the picture friendo)
vagrant steppe
Oh I thought it was, weird
sleek sky
oh it was
huh
it auto unspoilered it for me
lol
the translated quote should also probably be spoilered, though
Anyway, I did see that picture too
mighty storm
someone translate this
sleek sky
my spanish(?) isn't what it used to be
mighty storm
also new teacher looks pretty
sleek sky
oh it's portuguese (forma de brazil)
golden lance
The flamingo has a pun name on amigo
Wait, did no one else catch onto that?
I thought it was obvious
sleek sky
it didn't jump out to me
vagrant steppe
"Do you need anything? Your pokemon seem to be in good shape"
crimson moat
Still smdh not flame-ingo
mighty storm
wait so its flamigo
vagrant steppe
She's a healer
mighty storm
oh school nurse?
vagrant steppe
Probably
crimson moat
There’s an animaniacs gif for this moment for the fanbase
sleek sky
"Do you need anything? Your pokemon seem to be in good shape"
Are you sure?
It seems more like "in top shape" or something along the lines of being full/restored
not tired
vagrant steppe
Are you sure?
It seems more like "in top shape" or something along the lines of ...
Yeah, you're right
mighty storm
I am asking leaker man about well the bug fans know
vagrant steppe
I fixed the translation
mighty storm
||Kamen rider mon||
maiden flax
Different angle of the evo
civic flint
Wait, did no one else catch onto that?
People need help
mighty storm
Different angle of the evo
vagrant steppe
I got the general idea, just missed what specifically she wanted
crimson moat
I just didn’t care about it
sleek sky
||damn a tortilla costs more than some crab meat in Paldea||
crimson moat
||Parental Bond HA when tho||
golden lance
||fuck i'm hungry now||
maiden flax
More food
crimson moat
Wow they actually gave meaning to ||cafes||
golden lance
||I just ate dinner 
||
crimson moat
SwSh in more shambles than before
mighty storm
funny enough Im eating one of those leaked foods
golden lance
Fuck it i'm gonna make myself a sandwich or 3
maiden flax
SwSh in more shambles than before
The number 1 thing i cant forgive swsh for
And this is more a problem with how the japanese view foreign food
Is making curry, a referance to the UK liking indian curry
And then giving us japanese curry
crimson moat
Next time we get a Japanese region, we need a jelly donut mechanic
maiden flax
This reminds me of how some japanese people think that omurice is a western invention .-.
maiden flax
why not both
golden lance
vocal torrent
Cream Jam
vagrant steppe
Man every time I remember Rokidee and Corvisquire's typing it annoys me
tacit sphinx
You think Regigigas ever looks at Zacian and plots murder
“Oh so 160 Attack and it has to be halved for five turns but 172 Attack and you get a free boost on switch in”
crimson moat
By the time Regigigas forms the thought, Zacian already killed it
tacit sphinx
Not like a fight
Like “Regigigas hires the golems to kidnap Zacian and beat it to death with crowbars”
vagrant steppe
Time to petition gamefreak to make the birds Normal/Flying
bleak pine
Giant has it so bad that it still has Slow Start even in a game without abilities.
golden lance
The cost of not being a restricted mon on vgc rulesets
placid junco
Tbh with its god awful move pool it probably would still be totally fair
Without slow start
bleak pine
Regigigas learned Body Press naturally.
void herald
slaking is basically just better regigigas
maiden flax
Its not that bad of a move pool
Besides
Its not exactly like spectrier had a good moveset lol
placid junco
I legit forget the horses exist most of the time
bleak pine
Honestly Truant is both better, and worse.
You're just screwed if your opponent has Protect/Endure or anything else like it
maiden flax
Truant's best niche is giving it to the opponent
bleak pine
But you can do a silly and pass the otherwise detrimental ability off to someone else
maiden flax
I legit forget the horses exist most of the time
I still cant get over spectrier just two shoting dark types lol
vocal torrent
They really need to rework slow Start
bleak pine
Maybe making it take less damage while it has the ability would be nice.
It'd add to the tension of having to defeat Regigigas before it finally gets its act together.
vocal torrent
Even in the games where ability are almost non existent, they still find a way to have Regigigas with Slow start
The disrespect
sharp kernel
So did nobody tell gamefreak nobody in Latin America likes Spain (besides Argentina) due to idk them conquering our ancestors? Them having a Pokémon with a sombrero as part of their evo in 2022 is super disrespectful
maiden flax
So did nobody tell gamefreak nobody in Latin America likes Spain (besides Argent...
||Its actually a nest with an egg not a sombrero||
||Whether or not it ended up looking like a sombrero on purpose I dont know but what it is is a nest with an egg||
sand forge
So did nobody tell gamefreak nobody in Latin America likes Spain (besides Argent...
Welcome to the pain of having a poorly researched region based off stuff you know
Galar is more America than Britain
vocal torrent
No Dalmatian Pokemon in galar as fire doggo that could works as starter
Instead we got bunny soccer because "UK loves soccer wethink"
vocal torrent
Ye I dont get why they decided to make skeleton war reference for UK based region
sand forge
But there's no swans, no Yorkshire Terriers
vocal torrent
They already got Megalosaurus and Iguanodon false proportion for that
sand forge
Ye I dont get why they decided to make skeleton war reference for UK based regio...
Why is Obstagoon a reference to KISS
An American band
vocal torrent
Also arent we already got USA region?
I know the continent is too big just to make 1 gen, but dumping UK with it is not the way
sand forge
Gen 5 was New York iirc?
vocal torrent
Yeet
Imagine when we eventually got Aussie region but it has Indonesian wildlife instead like Oranguru or Kommo-O
Speaking of why those ended up in Alola. Last I check Hawaii is not Indonesian island
sand forge
Oh I suppose Alola is also America
maiden flax
*Speaking of why those ended up in Alola. Last I check Hawaii is not Indonesian ...
I think its cause the zoos there have indonesian wildlife
silver vigil
Well now that we have ||Fuecoco’s middle evo, a doodle of what I think the final evo will look like||
sand forge
Well now that we have ||Fuecoco’s middle evo, a doodle of what I think the final...
||where bird||
silver vigil
||We do not have bird yet||
silver vigil
I tried to ||keep the sombrero somewhat|| @vocal torrent
vocal torrent
Ahh nyaruhodo
pseudo goblet
The one Litten and Popplio left standing implies there was also Rowlet on shelf but people already took it 
long stone
mighty storm
Instead we got bunny soccer because "UK loves soccer wethink"
all the galarian starters have an entertainment theme
vocal torrent
I know, I just feel Scorbunny design is too bland compared to other two
Then again I guess that's what happen when you designed a Pokemon to looks like sport mascot
mighty storm
I wish sobble went the theatre route 😦
warm sky
long stone
did another take
magic thunder
Also, seems like the names and types for all new mons might have leaked
Keep seeing this online and haven't seen anyone say it's fake or anything
It seems way too much effort to fake
||906 Sprigatito (Grass)
907 Gatrixy (Grass)
908 Caliquin (Grass/Dark)
909 Fuecoco (Fire)
910 Crocalor (Fire)
911 Lulligator (Fire/Ghost)
912 Quaxly (Water)
913 Quaffure (Water)
914 Quaxelence (Water/Fighting)
915 Lechonk (Normal)
916 Jabanquet (Normal/Fairy)
917 Tarountula (Bug)
918 Arachbead (Bug)
919 Swabbatross (Normal/Flying)
920 Captrel (Electric/Flying)
921 Flamigo (Fighting/Flying)
922 Pawmi (Electric)
923 Nurzumi (Electric)
924 Marmozon (Electric/Fighting)
925 Minimice (Normal)
926 Maximice (Normal)
194 Wooper (Poison/Ground)
927 Toxalotl (Poison/Ground)
928 Smoliv (Grass/Normal)
929 Dolliv (Grass/Normal)
930 Idoliv (Grass/Normal)
931 Locustice (Bug)
932 Swarmada (Bug/Dark)
933 Klawf (Rock)
934 Vakeroot (Grass/Ghost)
935 Constumble (Grass/Ghost)
128 Tauros (Fighting)
128 Tauros (Fighting/Water)
128 Tauros (Fighting/Fire)
936 Fidough (Fairy)
937 Barkery (Fairy)
938 Martilil (Fairy/Steel)
939 Hammenina (Fairy/Steel)
940 Mallerina (Fairy/Steel)
941 Scorville (Fire/Grass)
942 Kapiscorch (Fire/Grass)
943 Lampoly (Electric)
944 Bellibolt (Electric)
945 Wiglett (Water)
946 Wugtrio (Water/Fairy)
947 Burronelia (Steel)
203 Girafarig (Normal/Psychic)
948 Farigiraf (Normal/Psychic)
206 Dunsparce (Normal)
949 Abundunce (Normal)
950 Cymknight (Fire)
951 Armarouge (Fire/Psychic)
952 Ceruledge (Fire/Ghost)
953 Cyclizar (Dragon/Normal)||
||954 Perichoir (Normal/Flying)
955 Saliroom (Rock)
956 Chunkloride (Rock)
957 Nacliff (Rock)
958 Mineroll (Bug)
959 Scaravoyant (Bug/Psychic)
960 Awestrich (Psychic)
961 Avestrut (Psychic)
962 Mawluza (Water/Psychic)
963 Dolphiño (Water)
964 Dolphather (Water)
965 Huffus (Dark)
966 Barkness (Dark)
967 Abheront (Dark/Flying)
968 Greavard (Ghost)
969 Zombark (Ghost)
970 Mouspray (Poison/Normal)
971 Grafaiai (Poison/Normal)
972 Toadscool (Grass/Ground)
973 Toadscruel (Grass/Ground)
974 Pesticu (Rock/Poison)
975 Flortilizer (Rock/Poison)
976 Whalittle (Ice)
977 Cetitan (Ice)
978 Gimmighoul (Ghost)
979 Ethaurum (Ghost/Steel)
56 Mankey (Fighting)
57 Primeape (Fighting)
980 Ghourilla (Fighting/Ghost)
981 Pollupunk (Steel/Poison)
982 Axelerate (Steel/Poison)
983 Ryumami (Water/Dragon)
984 Lagurmet (Water)
624 Pawniard (Dark/Steel)
625 Bisharp (Dark/Steel)
985 Samuroyal (Dark/Steel)
986 Cretassil (Ice/Dragon)
987 Cryovern (Ice/Dragon)
988 Paleoliz (Ice/Dragon)
989 Folieris (Grass/Dark)
990 Flameris (Fire/Dark)
991 Soileris (Ground/Dark)
992 Frozeris (Ice/Dark)
993 Koraidonphan (Ground/Fighting)
994 Bigglyruff (Dragon/Fairy)
995 Mystereavus (Ghost/Fairy)
996 Salanthrope (Dragon/Dark)
997 Stalagneton (Rock/Steel)
998 Ungaboonguss (Rock/Grass)
999 Volcryptid (Bug/Fighting)
1000 Miraidonphan (Ground/Electric)
1001 Garowlia (Fairy/Fighting)
1002 Haulbird (Water/Ice)
1003 Mechanitar (Electric/Dark)
1004 Kokadreice (Flying/Dark)
1005 Harissage (Fighting/Psychic)
1006 Gammarona (Poison/Fire)
1007 Koraidon (Dragon/Fighting)
1008 Miraidon (Dragon/Electric)||
silver vigil
...I just realised Korai/Miraidon are also plays on 'ride on'
god I love these mons
magic thunder
It seems the final ones are the paradox mons
||
last musk
It is
fading stratus
||Isn't altaria mega fairy dragon||
last musk
||Isn't altaria mega fairy dragon||
No, dragon flying
silver vigil
mega altaria is fairy/dragon
last musk
Are they?
fading stratus
Yeah
last musk
Ah I think Google was showing regular first
flat sedge
|| but can we stop with the fire/ghost grass/ghost please already, it's sooooooo overdone||
silver vigil
fire/ghost is a goated type so idm it
fading stratus
||Ungaboongus||
outer eagle
||what other Fire/Ghost aside from Chandelure do we have||
silver vigil
typhlosion
outer eagle
oh wait i forgot about that thing
flat sedge
Blace
fading stratus
Also blacephalon yeah
flat sedge
Awak is cool cuz he's different
fading stratus
Or marowak
flat sedge
The rest are all "frail special attacker that clicks flamethrower and shadow ball"
silver vigil
||well this one is prob a slow special attacker that clicks flamethrower and shadow ball ||
flat sedge
We have 2 of those as well!
Blace is just kinda faster
But not fast enough to be distinct
It's actually not that many
They all just came out so close to each other
Or at least it feels like it
long stone
we don't have much new water mons do we
mighty storm
we saw the bird in an official trailer
so here is a better quality pic of the parrot
mighty storm
||906 Sprigatito (Grass)
907 Gatrixy (Grass)
908 Caliquin (Grass/Dark)
909 Fueco...
ok the bug||/dark one which is kamenrider got cool names||
mighty storm
||I'm assuming Samuroyal is gonna be a split evo||
Not a split evo
pseudo goblet
||906 Sprigatito (Grass)
907 Gatrixy (Grass)
908 Caliquin (Grass/Dark)
909 Fueco...
||BARKERY!!!||
Holy shit these names are great 😂
mighty storm
wait is this a leak of the portugese names?
or is their no difference between their names and english names?
also where are the|| quad perils?||
pseudo goblet
||906 Sprigatito (Grass)
907 Gatrixy (Grass)
908 Caliquin (Grass/Dark)
909 Fueco...
Finally found Lechonk’s evo name, ||Jabanquet??|| what that mean?
mighty storm
I know the second half is related to food
cuz that pig FAT
president leaker the supplier of ||Eggcoco|| got removed from twitter
sleek sky
removed removed?
I know the profile was privated at some point
mighty storm
yes removed removed
but a new 4chan leaker claims to be dumping the whole game soon!
same person who gave us the new parrot picture
outer eagle
i'd imagine leakers to just use proxy twitter accounts for leaking stuffs to prevent their primary account from getting removed
mighty storm
btw I think greavard is gonna be on James' team in the anime
sharp kernel
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeY610FXEAM6VAl?format=jpg&name=small
Also wtf is this mushroom
sharp kernel
Summer I know a mushroom when I see one
tacit sphinx
...I just realised Korai/Miraidon are also plays on 'ride on'
miraidon
raidonmi
civic flint
this name leak is seeming to be fake
sharp kernel
I will be disappointed by anything besides Zombark
last musk
Honestly I think it's real purely because there are an abundance of shitty puns here and it correlates with what we've seen so far
void herald
i hope it's real because i love fidough's evolved form's name
golden lance
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/dGMeukugpct7Oj-uFf2oyZaKVF6AvcZfUdd...
Wait nooooooo i thought the hair was a top hat
mighty storm
Summer I know a mushroom when I see one
I've seen the leaks, its salt
literally rock type
golden lance
wait is this a leak of the portugese names?
Portuguese never changed the name of mons, only exception being the bulbasaur line
mighty storm
ah ok
golden lance
Portuguese never changed the name of mons, only exception being the bulbasaur li...
And for context: only change was adding an "o" to the end of the name
So bulbasauro/ivysauro/venusauro
Because it rolls off the tongue much better
But then again, 30 years and we never got an official mainline game with portuguese as a language option
And ppl actually defend that decision because "your language is not important enough" and that "it's not that big of a deal, just play in english/spanish"
bleak pine
I do like how in recent times you can pick the language the game is in when you start it up. But yeah, there still is always a need to have more options to choose from.
crimson moat
Remember, the reason "Your language is not important enough" is bad logic is because they can probably afford to spend money translating it and just don't.
golden lance
i actually dare these ppl to play the games in german to see how much they understand the dialogue, they're both anglo saxonian, are they not? So you should understand them
crimson moat
A lotta companies have to pri money other which ways to make sure they are staying profitable.
Pokemon?
Small indie company?
magic thunder
I wonder if the small amount of languages is due to the fairly well-known translation issues that the first generations have
Which were the Pokemon Compny's fault, but still
Like "give translators a list of words" type stuff
No wonder you end up with weird words that don't make sense in context
golden lance
Reminder that almost every recent spin off game has pt as a language option
Like
The only one i can think of that doesn't have it is new snap
golden lance
Game freak on their way to 720° no scope their own foot (game will still have better sales than any other switch game)
vagrant steppe
Yeah racist starter is gonna only get like 100 twitter posts going "this is kinda racist yeah" and the game will sell amazing
golden lance
Man
Still find amazing that they're releasing a game based on the iberian peninsula but can't be bothered to put a pt language option in the game
vagrant steppe
Why would they do that when it requires more effort
warm sky
Yay racist starter evo
tbh, from what I've seen ||mexican|| pokemon fans seem to love and meme it already on twitter
vagrant steppe
That's good at least. I just think it's really fucking weird they did none research and put a Mexican themed thing in the Spain region
warm sky
This argument to me is just sounding like people arguing over ||Mario Odyssey||
or ||Speedy Gonzales||
vagrant steppe
Yeah I guess it's sorta like that then
long stone
Yay racist starter evo
The word is actually stereotypical
No one need for exaggeration
warm sky
Also, iiiiiisn't the first mon in the region to have Spanish colony inspirations
or colonies in general
I mean, dratini's line is based on korean myth iirc and uh
Japan and Korea
vagrant steppe
The word is actually stereotypical
No one need for exaggeration
I mean, I'd argue assuming an entirely different Spanish speaking culture that has completely different vibes is exactly the same as one on the other side of the world is sorta racist, if nothing else because it's lazy
vagrant steppe
It's definitely lazy and sorta stereotypical
I'm interested to see if he keeps the theme for the final evo
placid junco
Time to bail for me I guess since the games are leaking
long stone
I mean, I'd argue assuming an entirely different Spanish speaking culture that h...
lazy sure, the rest is kinda reaching imo
crimson moat
"Sheen this is the 7th time you brought I'm bailing the thread to class"
placid junco
Fair lol
vagrant steppe
I mean ||sombreros|| are culturally associated with Mexico, not Spain
crimson moat
lol
vagrant steppe
They have entirely different cultures
crimson moat
Shoutout to Poncho from the advance anime
silver vigil
Well now that we have ||Fuecoco’s middle evo, a doodle of what I think the final...
@warm sky what do you think of my guy
vagrant steppe
It'd be like putting a bunch of British themed pokemon in an Irish region because they speak the same language when Ireland doesn't quite like the UK
silver vigil
||The middle evo’s snout looked like a skull||
||and the end of its tail had a wisp shape||
So I ran with those
warm sky
It'd be like putting a bunch of British themed pokemon in an Irish region becaus...
you could've just mentioned gen 8 having american mons
WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A KISS MON
vagrant steppe
you could've just mentioned gen 8 having american mons
True, there are a lot of those
Hey at least his shiny is Bowie colored?
warm sky
Why is Obstagoon a reference to KISS
at the least the shiny is ziggy stardust
vagrant steppe
Also he's punk themed in general
silver vigil
So I can’t complain too much
vagrant steppe
He should have been more Sex Pistols themed I guess
long stone
I mean ||sombreros|| are culturally associated with Mexico, not Spain
Assuming they don't actually acknowledge that it is from another region originally
not that they haven't done so e.g. Copperajah
vagrant steppe
That's a reach for a starter tho
sand forge
Bone wars fossils are the worst fossils
warm sky
honestly if any UK band should've been mentioned
vagrant steppe
The starters are usually just sorta "oh yeah here's a Pokemon" with next to no lore
warm sky
black sabbath
long stone
That's a reach for a starter tho
nothing says they were not imported in the past
vagrant steppe
Nothing says that, but they also usually don't outright say it either way
Also the Galar starters were themed after UK culture
Soccer, Punk music, and 007
long stone
Honestly I'm not trying to defend the laziness, but i think you are trying to force the bad side of it.
vagrant steppe
I mean, maybe it looks better in motion, but it really looks like they did 0 research and got something from an entirely different culture because hehe same language
warm sky
I'll be real
I doubt they did 0 research my dude
Greavard's stupidly in-depth
for a candle dog
vagrant steppe
Yeah a lot of others are. I'm just kinda surprised they got the entirely wrong side of the world on this one
magic thunder
Isn'T Graveard just that thing Conan-Doyle wrote about once?
long stone
but it really looks like they did 0 research and got something from an entirely different culture because hehe same language
with how much theming some very basic mons have, I highly doubt they didn't research
vagrant steppe
But we know they're lazy so thats what I was rolling with
vagrant steppe
Houndoom is closer to Baskerville
magic thunder
Oh. Ok
warm sky
it's a few things
vagrant steppe
Which makes it's exclusion from Galar even more confusing
warm sky
Like one of these is that it's based on tallow
long stone
Anyway no mon is just 1 thing/what it looks like only
there has to be more to it
warm sky
an animal fat substance candles used to be made out of
sand forge
Like one of these is that it's based on tallow
I think that's a reach.
warm sky
and is used as dog food
vagrant steppe
I'm sure there's more than 1 theme to the design yeah
vagrant steppe
But the most immediate one is just... Weirdly lazy
warm sky
The solid material remaining after rendering is called cracklings, greaves, or graves.[1] It has been used mostly for animal food, such as dog food.[2][3]
sand forge
Ok, but the visual design is pretty much exactly what you'd make if you were making a candle dog
vagrant steppe
Watch it becomes a conquistador dog
Actually they should have made the villain team conquistadors
sand forge
Also are the English translations baked in from the beginning
vagrant steppe
Usually, yeah
sand forge
Because the Japanese name is literally Graveyard Dog
vagrant steppe
I mean "Sea Diglett"
sand forge
If the English translations are done post-design, I commend the translators for the references
But the candle dog contains references to candles isn't that impressive imo
long stone
now looking at it more, I think it is meant to be just a straw hat not an actual sombrero 
he gives the vibe of a framer more than anything
young river
pseudo goblet
I usually avoid using any rock type Pokémon whenever I play Pokemon, the moves are good, but usually too frail to work
long stone
https://twitter.com/PkmnBrainrot/status/1589651439055667200?t=B_2u4frxLaol3TjQoY...
Not when i Terra these dudes 
bleak pine
https://twitter.com/PkmnBrainrot/status/1589651439055667200?t=B_2u4frxLaol3TjQoY...
Notice how no one calls rock out for being a meh defensive typing
outer eagle
they do tho
sand forge
Aggron do be cool though
sharp kernel
civic flint
Notice how no one calls rock out for being a meh defensive typing
People been saying they made Avalugg worse by giving it a rock typing
vagrant steppe
Rock is amazing offensively
So you very rarely see people complain about it defensively
outer eagle
oh they do...all the time
it's just that slow rock types are mostly so irrelevant that people don't even remember them
TTar is famous for being good despite of its typing
vagrant steppe
Yup
civic flint
Most rock moves have low acc
Exceptions are Power Gem but not a lot of mons get that
Same with Diamond Storm
The most you will see with a rock move is Stealth Rock
random stream
Rock Blast ttar is cool
flat sedge
Even meteor beam can miss
Actually messed up that if you want a special rock attack you need to commit to a one time move that can miss
(power gems 80 no secondary effects is just way too weak esp if not stab)
fading stratus
||looks like someone's furry oc NGL||
civic flint
this looks extra fake
last musk
This is just neco-arc
void herald
i hope it isn't real but i wouldn't be that surprised if it is
void herald
the model is way too smooth looking
there's like no texture on it at all
just flat colors
pseudo goblet
||looks like someone's furry oc NGL||
Looked a lot like something from Loomian Legacy
vagrant steppe
If you got a furry to design it, it'd look 10x better than that
maiden flax
||looks like someone's furry oc NGL||
This is like the 3rd time someone posted this, its fake
maiden flax
Look at the official models this gen
Did you miss them giving the scales texture for reptile mons like seviper? (Which was seen since like... trailer 1)
vagrant steppe
Only some mons have updated textures
And also a lot of the new ones are really flat colored
vagrant steppe
Man I'm really considering Temtem again. They look more like real Pokemon than half this gen
golden lance
young river
vagrant steppe
Hey at least this sprigatito isn't bipedal
maiden flax
If you put butter on butterfree would it become just butter?
silver vigil
DONPHAN
crimson moat
silver vigil
||name leak confirmed bois||
mighty storm
Paradox
vagrant steppe
Dex name leak confirmed them
silver vigil
||oongaboongus too||
mighty storm
crimson moat
smdh not named|| purebread||
mighty storm
silver vigil
Anyone got that leak on them again
void herald
i feel lie ||purebread|| might be a bit too on the nose
mighty storm
Welcome, your new exclusives
vagrant steppe
||906 Sprigatito (Grass)
907 Gatrixy (Grass)
908 Caliquin (Grass/Dark)
909 Fueco...
@silver vigil
silver vigil
Danke
mighty storm
crimson moat
only 1 snapshot of each and past phan looks way better than future phan
silver vigil
I’m hyped as fuck for ||past volcarona||
long stone
future one is just lazy
mighty storm
its not acab
vagrant steppe
Holy fuck that's stupid then
silver vigil
Both of them are going in Ubers
outer eagle
vagrant steppe
Jesus Christ
silver vigil
Is donphan called that in every language
crimson moat
All it announced was the first raid event for SV and Donphans
And the reason people hate the trailer: Charizard is the first raid event
vagrant steppe
On the bright side it confirms leaks to this point
So that ugly ass sprigatito evo is real
long stone
oh no
silver vigil
Oh it is
||the korai/mirai pun works in every language then||
That’s prob why they did it
silver vigil
except Korean ig
mighty storm
You now know 4 legendaries
vagrant steppe
Wait... Why does Bisharp lose the chess themeing?
silver vigil
WAIT I JUST FUCKING REALISED
mighty storm
which is a pitiful amount considering 10 days till the games
mighty storm
but you'll find out more later
vagrant steppe
Oh I guess he does keep the chess theme?
mighty storm
4 out of ||20|| legendaries revealed
outer eagle
Are they really about to introduce 20 legendaries
fading stratus
Paradox forms are probably legendaries, no?
vagrant steppe
There are definitely not 20 legends on that list
outer eagle
Would be a record for highest number of legendaries introduced in a generation
vagrant steppe
And that list is the new mons list
mighty storm
There are
vagrant steppe
Unless you're counting paradox forms
mighty storm
wait double checking count
vagrant steppe
There's also only 19 total, counting paradox
mighty storm
vagrant steppe
But fr, how the fuck did they think||Bisharp needed an Evo?||
mighty storm
there is 20
silver vigil
But fr, how the fuck did they think||Bisharp needed an Evo?||
||what no knock off does to a mf||
mighty storm
UBs of the game revealed
outer eagle
Amoonguss
vagrant steppe
||what no knock off does to a mf||
He's only been OU since release
outer eagle
Will we finally have another Spore supporter for VGC
vagrant steppe
Wait with the dex leak revealed we can theory if ANYTHING checks Luna
crimson moat
We live in a Pelipper
vagrant steppe
Wait
WHY THE FUCK DOES ||TAUROS|| GET 3 DIFFERENT REGIONAL VARIANTS? AND ALL THREE SHARE A TYPE?
But one of them doesn't get a separate type???
mighty storm
idk
vagrant steppe
That's dumb as shit
warm sky
Holy fuck that's stupid then
Nah let my boy be broken
vagrant steppe
I mean, he's gonna be mega broken
warm sky
Good
warm sky
Wait... Why does Bisharp lose the chess themeing?
Also so
Bisharp chess theme is English only, Bisharp is actually based on shogi iirc
vagrant steppe
Oh... That explains it
vagrant steppe
Yeah definitely... Especially if it's ||emperor themed||
warm sky
I suppose they didn't wanna go gendered maybe
But eh
It's only vaguely||a king piece then?||
vagrant steppe
I guess. We'll have to see the design to know
sharp kernel
Yeah so I think the past donphan just sold me on scarlet
crimson moat
3 Gigs
void herald
lots of games do this
warm sky
Yeah, but it sucks ass
crimson moat
It's not a bad sign for pokemon exclusively, but it isn't a good practice
warm sky
And a lot of times it is a bad sign of poor development
sharp kernel
Not surprising, day 1 patches is the new norm, blame AAA titles like no man’s sky and cyberpunk for perfecting the “release unfinished game that we hope we can patch to be playable”
vagrant steppe
It's a bad sign in general yeah. Means the game, whatever it is, was rushed out
outer eagle
Physical releases having to be stocked up b4 digital ones creates this entire problem ngl
sharp kernel
Also yeah