Chalked it up to "moon stone shenanigans"
#Pokemon
bleak pine
Moon stone is weird as fuck
Places like Mt. Moon, Meteor Falls, Mt. Coronet, Mt. Hokulani, etc...
It is possibly just a "fairy stone"
But like
The Nidos use it
The case for Nidoran is basically put, the whole jump from Nidorino/Nidoina is akin to like, lycanthropy or something.
Ohh makes sense
We do have a yugioh lycnathrop
They go from a weird but somewhat natrual four legged thing to a monster that walks on two
He sucks tho
bleak pine
They go from a weird but somewhat natrual four legged thing to a monster that wa...
WITH TITS
Abd spikes
And good movesets
As for why Jigglypuff and Skitty can evolve with it, the case is unclear.
pseudo goblet
Skitty’s case, cats and moon maybe?
bleak pine
Possibly.
silver vigil
@warm sky 
pseudo goblet
I don’t see connection but that’s all I got
bleak pine
Part of me thinks that there just wasn't anything else they could have found fitting for a use for the Moon Stone for RSE
Most stones get unused a gen later anyways
Fire stone has 5 mons
pseudo goblet
Wait so, should we count Moon stone to be as Fairy-evolution stone?
bleak pine
Likely so
pseudo goblet
I’m kinda trying to make sense to which stones mostly fits into which type better
bleak pine
A lot of moves that have something to do with the moon are fairy-type, such as Moonlight and Moonblast.
Not Moongeist Beam though, that's something else entirely.
bleak pine
Wait so, should we count Moon stone to be as Fairy-evolution stone?
Nah
It's weird as fuc
Only tangibly related, in any case
pseudo goblet
Sun stone not making this any easier…
bleak pine
Not Moongeist Beam though, that's something else entirely.
Moon mon not fairy
Just as likely that the Shiny stone can be considered as such.
But even that has some other cases.
pseudo goblet
Moon mon not fairy
Yeah I wasn’t expecting this to work too, oh well
bleak pine
Stones dropped the type idea in gen 1
Really weird
Shiny Stone is closer to Fairy
Dawn Stone is just for the gender evos
pseudo goblet
Oh yeah, Dawn stone works wth Froslass 
pseudo goblet
My mind thinking something like Dawn=fighting cause gallade
bleak pine
Sun is like Grass 2.0
pseudo goblet
Dusk works with both ghost and dark right
bleak pine
I think so yea
pseudo goblet
Okay yeah the stone gimmick makes me having a headache 
bleak pine
Basically
Fire is fkre
Water watah
Thubder thunda
Relevant for only gen 1
Moon is 5 specific mons
Sun is some plants
Dusk is some ghosts and a dark
Dawn is the gender evos
pseudo goblet
Imagine they make a stone for rock, ground and steel types 
void herald
why do there need to be so many stones
most of them have like 2 or 3 pokemon they evolve
warm sky
most of them have like 2 or 3 pokemon they evolve
actually most are 4 mons
average is 4.3 mons per stone
void herald
i feel like they should probably use them more
warm sky
4.4 if we wanna count the nidos
as seperate
less if you don't count the retcons
like nosepass using a thunder stone in pla
sand forge
i feel like they should probably use them more
This would be cool tbh
warm sky
I do hope some of the new mons use a stone
imho, I feel each gen should have a few stone evos
Like 4 at the least
snow oasis
you forgot the 50% daily “DAE hate gen 6/7/8???”
whoops responded to the wrong comment, you get the point tho
bleak pine
Yea
twin shard
Don’t worry, once 9 comes out, 6 will be considered “widely loved” and 7 will be considered a “sleeper hit”
silver vigil
This is already happening btw
twin shard
It happens every new gen
bleak pine
Yep
twin shard
I remember when 5 wasn’t very liked
snow oasis
Man I was there for 5
5 was by far the most hated gen when it came out
Gen 5 is the “tOsS FoRmaT” of pokemon gens
twin shard
“Why did you have 2 sequels instead of 1? Greedy game freak killing the game”
And also toss format and also bad comp format
bleak pine
Honestly at this point I'm getting tired of remakes.
Actual sequels or something are something I look forward to
twin shard
I don’t remember if 4 was too hated but I do remember people not liking 4 because it wasn’t 3 and because there were too many legends
bleak pine
Also likely felt very sluggish compared
twin shard
3 was hated because we didn’t go back to kanto, which was 
snow oasis
No, people disliked 3 because you couldn’t transfer up pokemon from RBY/GSC
But 3 and 4 were on the whole very popular still
bleak pine
Yeah, that was likely a big rub against it
snow oasis
5 was the one with a significant pushback
sand forge
was 5 weather wars?
outer eagle
it was
but most people don't care about the comp metagame
so that wasn't the reason for the pushback
more due to the dex lock
outer eagle
i never cared enough to go capture the Tapus post-game anyways so they don't matter to me
and comp is different from in-game experience so i can differenitate the 2
Altho the handholding is an actual issue that makes replaying gen 7 extremely tedious
outer eagle
"dude i know what a camera is i just want to catch some mons man!"
bleak pine
why do there need to be so many stones
To make some mons harder to get
Some of these are good
Some are Sunflora
sand forge
I think my least favourite Alolan form is probably the ice Gen 1's
bleak pine
Don't talk shit about the coolest alolan forms
snow oasis
I really liked the Totem idea
outer eagle
and i absolutely abhor A-Raticate
snow oasis
Felt the gym theme was a bit stale and liked that they shook it up
outer eagle
thankfully they did retain the Kahunas as "semi-gym leaders"
snow oasis
anyways I think stone evos are fine but there needs to be a Link Cable or equivalent in every game going forwards
outer eagle
if all i had to fight were totem battles it would get old real quick
bleak pine
I really liked the Totem idea
PLA did too
bleak pine
anyways I think stone evos are fine but there needs to be a Link Cable or equiva...
PLA did too
I have not played PLA but honestly if I got my hands on it I'd grind that shit so much Volo seems like a Youngster
outer eagle
only reason Arceus had link cable was cuz it didn't really have compatability with other games at the time
idt Link Cable's gonna return unless they make another standalone game like that again
bleak pine
It's honestly sad how Pokemon seems to be going down the "esport game" pipeline but PLA seems like a nice mix to it
crimson moat
- Most of the cast in the games, and including in the anime too. Half of them didn’t even get into the anime, and a bunch others got no development to character at all and were pretty much placeholders in the anime.
The sole savior for this was Twilight Wings for Nessa, Alister, Bea. Generations gen 8 episode also gave the only bit I cared about Leon.
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Hop in SwSh, and it still wasn’t well done at all. He’s just the one that got next to any decent development. In anime, it was probably Alister.
-
Piers is my favorite character from SwSh, and Volo from any of the gen 8 games.
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Volo. Despite being the same base, he is much more interesting than Cynthia.
bleak pine
I think nowadays they will just add the evos in the wuld
sand forge
Don't talk shit about the coolest alolan forms
I don't mind them visually, just conceptually
bleak pine
I mean in LGPE I guess they are cool
All the alolans are
Not sure if any are good there tho
Especially the ice atuff
Stuff*
sand forge
Compared to Galarian, which I think I like 1 Galarian Pokemon
crimson moat
I didn’t care for alolan pokes at all
sand forge
Actually 2
crimson moat
Save for like ninetails
sand forge
Slowpoke family & Farfetch'd
crimson moat
Much more liked Galarians than Alolan
sand forge
I think I disagree with legendaries getting regional variants
that doesn't gel with me
crimson moat
I agree with that, but I still liked stuff such as Darm, Rune, sirfetched, weezing, Slow fam and whatnot
silver vigil
Save for like ninetails
Both ice alolan lines are great
sand forge
Rune & Weezing are ok, not disliked
Really don't like the Ponyta, Stunfisk
Darm I accept as ok too
Mr Rime sux
crimson moat
Didn’t care for sandslash at all
sand forge
My favourite Alolan is probably Dugtrio
outer eagle
I completely forgot A-Dugtrio is a thing
crimson moat
Like that’s the thing, the number of things I liked in galar stuff is more than 1 or 2 families. Even if the lows sucked bad like mr rime, most of the Alolan I just forget or give a big “meh” about
Dugtrio and ninetales are probably it for me
sand forge
Still don't understand why A!Exeggutor is a dragon tho
outer eagle
Dragon Fruit and stuff
sand forge
Pokedex entry seems to pin it on "It just is"
sand forge
Dragon Fruit and stuff
Would be an interesting flair to add to the design
maybe instead of the default body, a dragonfruit-shaped one
would be neat & tie in thematically
bleak pine
Is someone holding a Greavard suicide?
golden lance
clever saddle
Why does trapinch feel like a totally different Pokémon from vibrava and flygon? It has a 100 physical attack stat and it drops when it evolves to vibrava then goes BACK to 100 at flygon.. wtf? Also it changes abilities entirely. A sheer force flygon sounded cool until you learn it can only have levitate as an ability
clever saddle
It’s an antlion?
placid junco
Yes
snow oasis
Clay down! Palpitoad and Krokorok were easy as shit, although Excadrill did give us some worry
warm sky
https://aegide.github.io/ so found this, I think I made a cursed item by accident instead of a pokemon
void herald
that looks like a particularly edgy digimon
golden lance
https://aegide.github.io/ so found this, I think I made a cursed item by acciden...
Paldean aegislash
void herald
this looks like it could be from some pokemon knockoff released exclusively on mobile
bleak pine
Yeah, Antlions are weird
The one most are familiar with are just how they start. They eventually can grow wings and fly.
It also explains Trapinch being very sluggish, it's not a chaser. It typically does what most antlions do; dig a pit and wait for things to fall in.
They're also weirdly named: They aren't ants, but they have the name cause they prey on ants.
golden lance
So like the much on the nose anteaters, then
mighty storm
at least it gets stats upon evolution looks at scizor
also
larvesta is a physical attacker 
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
Hoopa, what did you do 
bleak pine
Hoopa, what did you do <:monkaGIGA:652734094664269835>
His worst
placid junco
long stone
why are they buff in a weird way
it does not help that they don't get much taller
Especially Lillie
and why the Crocs
placid junco
Because he wanted to make her a swole surfer girl I guess
warm sky
I don't hate it, but they just look so off
bleak pine
Lillie is realistic enough
Do wish her hair represented Lusamine's a little
Selene was an attempt to connect her to Kukui I guess?
Or because they really want Lillie to be gay?
Like I think Elio would totally adopt Kukui's style rather than Selene, who would probably just get on Burnet's
outer eagle
https://twitter.com/jsketch12/status/1588471065977626625?s=61&t=5ZnuIKyqfN1PxPen...
Selene looks mid 20s while Lillie looks mid 30s
long stone
I don't hate it, but they just look so *off*
~~ that's when you learn to draw without learning anatomy~~
placid junco
What canonically having ADHD does to an MF
ADHD and a psychotic mother
placid junco
Selene looks mid 20s while Lillie looks mid 30s
The funny thing is in this artists time skip their both 23
bleak pine
ADHD and a psychotic mother
Nah I meant Selene
warm sky
Wait wtf has canon adhd
placid junco
Ye
Like they don’t literally say she has it
But it would make sense
(It would also explain some parts of her characterization in the manga lmao)
placid junco
In masters they describe her as easily distracted
bleak pine
My b I said ADHD
placid junco
Which is their explanation for her just staring off into space a lot
bleak pine
Idk what condition she has
placid junco
ADHD wouldn’t be entirely inapplicable
outer eagle
did they really try to give an explanation for the gen 7 MC's empty expressions? 
twin shard
Odds are they just tried to attach a quirky thing to her and randomly landed on that
placid junco
Could be
snow oasis
@random stream I found a Sassy Ferroseed in Chargestone Cave 
and I have Rocky Helmet
do I just winner now
random stream
Congrats nyaruhodo
outer eagle
doesn't even get Leech Seed
bleak pine
did they really try to give an explanation for the gen 7 MC's empty expressions?...
Yup in Masters
Masters is awfully meta sometimes
mighty storm
A new pokemon has been discovered in Go!
Wonder who it could be ||was in SV trailer this is the coin ||mon
twin shard
Mouth
placid junco
Honestly looks like it’s just arctozolt with its head turned to the side
bleak pine
Oh no Meltan 2.0
Inb4 the evolved form is op and not available through the game itself
golden lance
This thing looks like the reddit icon
warm sky
Oh y'all already seen the reddit mon
harsh path
Redditor mon when
sand forge
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger
bleak pine
These guys keep looking more and more fake
mighty storm
btw about reddit gold friendd
||supposed to be the spiritomb of the game, good luck and its a ghost type with an evolution||
lucid moth
oh god its coming out in 2 weeks and barely looks finished
bleak pine
Oh god it's coming in 2 weeks and somehow it's not the most doomed over game this year
lucid moth
thats genuinely sad tbh
bleak pine
Frontiers is getting more shit on
Only in gaming will a fandom get a string of mid games and doom over it for like an entire decade regardless of what other games release
Y'all lose hope so fast 💀
lucid moth
yea most everyone i have seen have done a 180 on it
been seeing way more ppl turn around on it
outer eagle
better to go in with low expectations than to have hope then have to cope
lucid moth
theres been a good chunk of games released just this year that ppl liked a lot
but crazy thing that people have also developed standards in regards to games
crimson moat
Most of the negativity at this point is the pop-in
It’s like the PLA of Sonic, where the game looks a bit primitive but it tries new stuff
So far most comments from people who attended the demo have been good stuff, especially on controls
Carrying that over to video game chat from here with Sonic
As far as negativity goes, seen a lot more for SV than Frontiers
Both SV and Frontiers are being presented much better than their predecessors
lucid moth
i agree
crimson moat
(Which continues the rhetoric of Forces being the SwSh of Sonic)
lucid moth
the difference being that sv does not deviate enough and has anyone with early copies saying bad/meh things about the game
compared to frontiers getting more hype from ppl who played it
crimson moat
Agree there
Scarlet Violet looks like a minor improvement to a game series that not only has been very stagnant and slow at improving, but even regressed with some aspects over the years
“Scarlet Violet looks better than SwSh” is the nicest I can be to it, but SwSh is a low ass bar in most areas
Accessibility to Pokémon and competitive in SwSh and raid battles becoming a precedent are about all I can give that game
But now, there is talk of some QOL possibly regressing in SV, namely in the unknown of how Bottle Caps are got and egg breeding mechanics
Tera also took what I thought was a much better mechanic than Dynamax on announcement and proceeded to bloat tf out of it
vagrant steppe
Leave it to gamefreak to randomly remove QoL features each gen
civic flint
Love that people differently have their hands on the game right now, but no one wants to be the guy that gets sued
sharp kernel
Wait how are we saying the game doesnt do anything new, when it literally takes stuff people liked from PLA lol
Pokémon fans will never be pleased
bleak pine
Just be aware: There will be so many screenshots from me to here once it releases.
I'm gonna detail the hell outta my adventures.
obsidian juniper
you might want to create an imgur album for them
bleak pine
Ah, good idea.
obsidian juniper
since im sure you dont want to spam
bleak pine
Yeaaah, I did get reminded not to like, drown out some channels with screenshots at one point. Yeaah.
It happens though, I just find so much things to talk about.
And yeah, no fooling about there being no pleasing people.
Already I'm gonna make Raz's day by catching a Girafarig. Never truly had one on a journey before, so I'm curious to see how it goes
snow oasis
Wait how are we saying the game doesnt do anything new, when it literally takes ...
it’s Pokémon fans they ALL think the game should be aimed at them specifically and they ALL have something to complain about
people got upset when they make more adult stories, people got upset when they made things more aimed at kids
people got upset when they shook up the traditional formula, people got upset when they kept things the same
it’s a massive fanbase which is largely way older than the target dynamic- no matter what they do someone will always be angy
sharp kernel
Like to be honest, why even follow the news if you’re just going to be miserable unless they do a full franchise reboot on unreal engine 26 and is on an actual platform that isn’t just a slightly better 3DS
lucid moth
i keep up entirely for the new mons + designs
bleak pine
Doesn't matter, there shall be salt.
bleak pine
So really, it's a losing proposition for the fanbase in any case.
That being said, such vitriol really is a small portion of the fanbase, and isn't exactly a very huge chunk.
lucid moth
i also do think theres a lot of forced positivity regarding slight improvements when it comes to games
bleak pine
It can be bad on both ends, yeah. People condeming others for buying it, and on the other end you got someone buying additional copies for each person who proclaims they aren't gonna buy it.
snow oasis
I mean I think the best thing to do is just
Ignore any online discussion area for pretty much any major game
bleak pine
Unironically a good thing to do.
snow oasis
A lot of gaming subreddits for instance tend to hyperfocus on and magnify any flaws and moan about them til kingdom come
snow oasis
A lot of time the complaints themselves are valid even! But the subreddits make them awful by constantly circlejerking them for karma
bleak pine
Agreed
snow oasis
r/deltarune for example
bleak pine
Monster Hunter is pretty alright
sharp kernel
Every fanbase should be like the God of War fanbase
snow oasis
What’s the God of War fanbase like?
sharp kernel
Exactly
snow oasis
I thought God of War was stupid popular 🤨
sharp kernel
They’re quiet, never bash their games, they know the games are great, but they’re not in your face about it
snow oasis
Sick
bleak pine
Man, they must be gigachads.
snow oasis
I do think healthy critique is useful but yeah a lot of times people just go straight into bashing
sharp kernel
They just meme Kratos to death
I am kinda disappointed we have t gotten any reveals though, my anticipation is killing me
kind vortex
a lot of times people just go straight into bashing
so basically every fanbase ever, including this channel : ^)
bleak pine
It's two weeks ahead. It's likely that we just aren't gonna get any news until the games themselves are released.
Case in point, back for Sword/Shield, we finally got news on what Grookey, Scorbunny and Sobble evolve into... about a day after launch.
sharp kernel
Nintendo must have put out an email to anybody with an early copy citing some serious repercussions for leaks
I can’t remember a Pokémon game ever being this secretive this close to release
bleak pine
Truth be told, I really hate the current trend on 'leaks' and such
snow oasis
To each their own, I feel
bleak pine
I get that keeping your product secure and free from prying eyes is tough work with so many ways to crack in or whatever, but there's always an influx of such things with a new games, especially like this.
snow oasis
Some people want to know everything ahead of time, some people want to preserve a surprise
flat sedge
I am very excited for gen 9 entirely so I can play showdown with new things
bleak pine
Don't get me wrong, wanting to know what the future holds is alright, I get it. Just, I feel a sense of shame knowing that a lot of hard work can get put into ensuring no leaked details reach anyone's eyes and ears for a game, and not a moment later it gets unveiled.
sharp kernel
I mainly want to know for comp purposes. I’m trying to make a push for VGC this gen and would love to know some comp tools we’re getting
bleak pine
I really just refrain from looking to such leaks, rumors and such out of respect, and partially cause I just want to be surprised.
snow oasis
I am very excited for gen 9 entirely so I can play showdown with new things
I’m cautiously optimistic that it might be what they call “fun”
If they haven’t fucked it up
I liked XY and SM but they were definitely megaflawed
golden lance
Honestly, swsh are the only mainline games where i'm questioning if i should play or not
bleak pine
Can't hurt to try.
golden lance
Like, as much flawed as gens 6 and 7 were, they "stood out", in a way
kind vortex
i'd say try them, if you're also willing to grab the dlc since both of them add a decent amount to the base game
but i enjoyed it overall
golden lance
I mean yea, the pokemon formula, for better or worse, is almost perfect as an entertainment source
bleak pine
As much controversy as there was with the expansion pass, I still massively prefer something like that to just a new game in the series that barely does much different for the games, save for additional content.
sharp kernel
I heavily enjoyed swsh and even more the nuzlockes for them
golden lance
I just feel like gen 8 doesn't offer much aside from that
bleak pine
Looking at you, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon
Sword/Shield are pretty much perfect for VGC and battles.
snow oasis
swsh were the first games I’ve skipped since I got into the series back in gen 3 and I didn’t feel like I missed anything
bleak pine
Possibly the easiest point someone can pick up and go with battling, either online or in the Victory Station mode.
snow oasis
did hear that Isle of Armor and Crown Tundra were good tho
snow oasis
swsh were the first games I’ve skipped since I got into the series back in gen 3...
actually LGPE too but I think a lot of people don’t count them
golden lance
swsh were the first games I’ve skipped since I got into the series back in gen 3...
Yea, that's what i'm trying to say
SwSh just feels... bland
crimson moat
did hear that Isle of Armor and Crown Tundra were good tho
Crown Tundra was mostly acclaimed, but a lot of people found Armor rather lacking
snow oasis
SV looks like it has potential
golden lance
[Insert British People Joke Here]
snow oasis
I’m cautiously optimistic
sharp kernel
Swsh was like the easiest bridge into comp play, which is what makes them stand out to me
crimson moat
Like Armor's single biggest contribution was the Cram-o-matic
crimson moat
It was the QOL for comp holding up Armor
golden lance
Only feature i really miss from any other JRPG are the difficulty modes
Also ngl
The lack of interaction between tpic and the community makes people more likely to be pessimistic about the games
Like, the whole lack of daycare thing
"We may be potentially make competitive infinitely less accessible which was one of gen 8's biggest improvements, or it may change nothing at all, either way, we are not telling you"
Which looks like a really avoidable issue
mighty storm
Ash definitely is gonna lose
crimson moat
And only then will people say it was a bad league
last musk
Nah viewerships been dipping since cynthia
snow oasis
holy shit I was getting complacent when I reached Mistralton bc I hadn’t lost a pokemon since Castelia
set off for the Celestial Tower and in quick succession I’ve lost my starter, Deerling, and Emolga
this has pumped the brakes massively on “BW locke so ez”
(All lost to crits bc of course they were, Pignite and Emolga from full and Deerling from being Pursuit trapped)
outer eagle
any game pre-gen 6 automatically has more difficulty cuz of Crit being 2x rather than 1.5x
snow oasis
I lost my Ducklett as well in Celestial Tower
Retooling the team won’t be super difficult since I’ve got some good options in reserve that don’t need too much leveling
except the best options are mf Leavanny, Gurdurr, and Simisage
all weak to Skyla
outer eagle
no Electric Types?
snow oasis
I’ve only caught a Blitzle and traded for the Emolga
Both have been lost
I’m really pissed about losing Emolga bc it was to the trainer with a Simipour on Route 7
Shock Wave failed to kill by the slightest sliver of HP bar and then a Scald crit in the rain took out Emolga
magic thunder
"We may be potentially make competitive infinitely less accessible which was one...
||The DLC apparently has "pkhex-like features" (Source: Khu) so if anything it's gonna make it more accesible.||
maiden flax
warm sky
||The DLC apparently has "pkhex-like features" (Source: Khu) so if anything it's...
remember to spoiler actual spoilers
we have an anti-spoiler rule in place
||also my guess the pkhex-like feature is what's going to replace or rather upgrade from bottlecaps, allowing you to tweak IVs to your liking||
https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1588878990059642882 oh also who's prepared for the obvious already leaked mon to be revealed lmao
Twitter
fading stratus
How do you even open the chest
warm sky
reddit gold
magic thunder
You can see ||the chest from a couple of angles and there are various stages of it being filled with coins by directly accessing the PNG images||
||https://chest.pokemon.com/img/box01_01.png
https://chest.pokemon.com/img/box01_02.png
https://chest.pokemon.com/img/box02_01.png
https://chest.pokemon.com/img/box02_02.png
https://chest.pokemon.com/img/box02_03.png
https://chest.pokemon.com/img/box02_04.png
https://chest.pokemon.com/img/box02_05.png
||
fading stratus
Oh neat
magic thunder
It's probably a Pokemon Go cross-promotion thing
They reveal the small form at that time
And as people catch them the chest fills up
We know that ||the small coin pokemon isn't in SV, only the evolved chest form||
warm sky
We know that ||the small coin pokemon isn't in SV, only the evolved chest form||
... but we ||we literally saw it in SV||
||Probably transfer only tho||
magic thunder
Didn't Khu say that it has an unobtainable form?
magic thunder
||Probably transfer only tho||
Maybe that's what it was reffering to?
warm sky
I assume so
magic thunder
Also, according to someone on the Pokeleaks subreddit which datamined the site, the counter is programmed to switch to 999 at 2 PM GMT tomorrow
There's also an animation titled ||コンポ 1||
long stone
Didn't Khu say that it has an unobtainable form?
much harder to get/rare from*
maiden flax
There's also an animation titled ||コンポ 1||
||konpo||
pseudo goblet
mighty storm
https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1588878990059642882 oh also who's prepared fo...
not even leaked, its in Pogo now
it follows you
mighty storm
yeah we just dont have its name
warm sky
clearly it's Snoo
sand forge
yeah we just dont have its name
reddit gold
fading stratus
Or nft or something
It looks like a bitcoin Pokémon
warm sky
Rebitcoin
mighty storm
I may use it on one of my teams like the|| ninja one cuz its a ghost||
warm sky
s t r e t c h\
bleak pine
Or nft or something
It looks like a bitcoin Pokémon <:cheems:683182129668292685>
Elon Musk's fav pokemon
It pays 8$ for Twitter Blue
void herald
twitter green in the japanese version
mighty storm
what if the coinmon hides in a chest in battle?
bleak pine
Oh no a new sub
warm sky
that's a litleo
warm sky
oh yeah zooming in
last musk
It's ears are the wrong colour too
warm sky
that looks like a dog
crimson moat
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1037140411170427001/1038534846290591905...
It’s pikachu
mighty storm
harsh path
Justice for the b o y
sharp kernel
Nido queen below nidoking is objectively wrong
mighty storm
sea slug friend made the list, and thumbnail
golden lance
Krok is also a bit debateable tbh
mighty storm
Imagine if we got something like Yaranzo as an evo of the coin mon?
also apparently the coin mons Japanese name is Konpo
vocal torrent
More Mimic mon? Like Voltorb and Amogus?
bleak pine
Yaranzo~
sand forge
More Mimic mon? Like Voltorb and Amogus?
I forget if they were were mimics or convergent evo
Pokémon Yellow says they camouflage themselves, but Pokémon Crystal says they're manmade. Pokémon Sapphire says they're descended from actual Pokeballs.
Voltorb*
Hisuian Voltorb is mysterious, but said to coincidentally resemble a Pokeball acorn
vocal torrent
I swear Pokedex never consistent with how Pokemon is depicted sometimes
sand forge
Foongus is a mystery as to why they look like Pokeballs, but Amoongus uses theirs as a lure
Also Foongus produces poison powder to deter people who want to pick it up, and Amoongus's poison powder will grow into more Foongus
So that suggests to me that Foongus is a mimic
vocal torrent
vocal torrent
Mimic that actually just bunch of fungi moving & controlling object is neat concept ngl
Tho prolly harder to pull of since chest doesn't have nerve system, only hinges
sand forge
Tho prolly harder to pull of since chest doesn't have nerve system, only hinges
I like the idea that a mimic is like a hermit crab
Will eventually come to infest a chest
sand forge
Tho prolly harder to pull of since chest doesn't have nerve system, only hinges
Either that or the mimic revives the long-dead wood, so it can sense touch
vocal torrent
I see owo
Also you can turn off the ping, it's not like I'm going anywhere few mins after my last comment òwó
sand forge
I thought I did, sorry.
sand forge
Growlithe and Houndoom sharing an ecological niche, I don't think so.
pseudo goblet
I’m more bothered seeing the Magnemite lines in a hot desert
Nothing but the ground around, combine with Sun giving them heat waves
pseudo goblet
Soooo, 12 days before the game release and me finally get to meet the new bug baby 
Sorry, babies
mighty storm
Genuinely curious if they gonna do a special reveal for|| Kamen Rider mon,|| I would love to see what they do for it
pseudo goblet
Doubt it 
mighty storm
Imagine it though. ||CGI footage of the prevo battling some powerful foe and then suddenly it starts evolving mid-battle and then they go "to be continued" and then the day after they show part 2 of the battle with the Kamen rider mon ending it with a mighty kick attack to the powerful enemies face||
pseudo goblet
I like that
bleak pine
tbf we are 12 days from games
Yeah but we know how easily some mons become unpopular
Even with hype built up
sand forge
People dislike Grubbin?
sand forge
My only gripe with Vikavolt is I don't like the magnetic field mechanic all that much
outer eagle
I rarely ever use slow Bug-types (except for Scizor i guess) so i haven't interacted with Vikavolt nearly enough to have any gripes with it
sand forge
I feel like Vikavolt would make more sense as a fast, hard-hitter
outer eagle
could have gotten Speed Boost instead if they wanted it to be slow at first
sand forge
pseudo goblet
Well, that’s certainly one way to get one of the Pokémon in unite
random stream
pseudo goblet
I feel like Vikavolt would make more sense as a fast, hard-hitter
Btw, Vikavolt’s Pokédex said it flys around really fast, despite the speed stat it has
random stream
havent been playing as much but I'll try to
last musk
It flies so fast that it looks like it's staying still 
outer eagle
ah yes the King defense
mighty storm
vikavolt should have an ability where it is always trickroom while its out
but nah, Slowlola gave most their mons pitiful speed
sand forge
Give Vikavolt massive SpATK and massive Speed you cowards
warm sky
but nah, Slowlola gave most their mons pitiful speed
you really missed the opportunity to say aslowla
warm sky
so where's the reveal of the reddit mon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzi0S3NGzg oh found it
bleak pine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzi0S3NGzg oh found it
When the trailer has VAs but not the game
Also inb4 this is Melm 2.0
Gonna say possibly better
warm sky
Yeah no this is Melmetal 2
Seems that one form is SV exclusive and the other is Go exclusive
and evolves by gathering 999 coins it seems
maiden flax
changes form*
mighty storm
IT LOOKS SO GOOD
warm sky
it's possible gimmighoul might've been designed by Sanosuke Sakuma, making that her first pokémon
she's done some TCG art and designed a few gen 8 trainers
also did work on the digimon tcg lmao
last musk
I'm assuming we won't know what the new form is?
mighty storm
Nobody has been reported catching roaming forms
last musk
Anyway I'm just gonna say it. I hate this design
crimson moat
Don't care for the design, certainly don't care for melmetal mechanics
last musk
It's a Reddit spoon holding a coin
warm sky
But since this might be a person's /first/ official pokémon design I don't want to sound too rude.
mighty storm
also, its a collect a bunch mon
silver vigil
zzz
mighty storm
Hope you liked spiritombs!
last musk
The idea of a money Mon could've been so much more
warm sky
ESPECIALLY FOR A SPANISH REGION
last musk
And they just went "err yeah he just holds and collects the coin lmao"
crimson moat
SwSh already had a money mon too
warm sky
YOU KNOW
crimson moat
Meowth GMax
warm sky
Like come on
last musk
Meowth is a good money mon
warm sky
Spain's obsession gold coins and shit
mighty storm
When a Pokémon with this Ability is hit by a Bug-, Dark-, or Ghost-type damaging move, its Speed is increased by one stage. (or gets intimidated)
maiden flax
i think it's cute
last musk
Oh no it doesn't have to be
bleak pine
rattled ability
Oh damn it gets a speed boost when hit by 2 weaknesses? Damn OP
warm sky
a 2d flat character with dowsing rod attenae
bleak pine
Also I bet the roaming form is totally GO only
last musk
Like I guarantee the antenna were after thoughts
warm sky
I would've been more okay if it was just straight up an actual mimic
mighty storm
hope it has bulk, its gonna need it
bleak pine
And it has Speed Boost
maiden flax
im sad it's not ghost/fairy cause it looks like it would be lol
mighty storm
Oh damn it gets a speed boost when hit by 2 weaknesses? Damn OP
you think to small SMT
crimson moat
I get the joke on having Rattled for the ability of a pokemon that can rattle a coin jar, but Rattled is not worth it
mighty storm
what if you terastalize it
bleak pine
When the new mon gets a shit ability and is "slow and bulky" with 70 speed and defences
warm sky
just kind of, alright ig
bleak pine
Inb4
bleak pine
what if you terastalize it
Steel?
mighty storm
it looks bulky
bleak pine
Also those are 3 types still
warm sky
It's a literal flat design
warm sky
how does it look bulky
last musk
My main thing is like... What does this Mon do, how does it affect the ecosystem
crimson moat
Who tf cares what it looks like. that doesn't ever do a good job reflecting stats
maiden flax
i feel like they should have made him ghost fairy, make it a fae that steals coins :v
bleak pine
And it becomes 100 of itself
last musk
i feel like they should have made him ghost fairy, make it a fae that steals coi...
Yes
I love this idea
bleak pine
My main thing is like... What does this Mon do, how does it affect the ecosystem
The same way Aegislash does
silver vigil
Can the go exclusive mon pls not be good this time
bleak pine
Inb4 it doesn't have Poltergeist
last musk
The same way Aegislash does
This has been a complaint for me for a while
maiden flax
"These Gimmighoul hide inside sturdy treasure chests. While this provides them with a solid defense, the treasure chest’s weight causes Gimmighoul to move slowly,"
this suggests high def low speed
last musk
There are Pokémon that just don't make sense even internally
maiden flax
ghosts exist to make more ghosts
bleak pine
Ghost breeding
bleak pine
Also to create cute Hex Maniacs
last musk
Like what?
bleak pine
Who cares about half these mons anyways lmao this seems like Alola in terms of comp
Carried by whatever legendary we get and some specific mon
last musk
Ghosts don't really help the enviroment
Well what else is it doing
bleak pine
They are gonna protect the chests
crimson moat
There are exactly 3 Pokemon that, at their best, use Rattled as their ability:
Clamperl (Because its other ability is shit, Shell Armor)
Ledyba (Because its other ability is swarm, on a pokemon with crap attacking stats)
Poochyena (Because Quick Feet sucks)
last musk
...chests full of coins no where would accept as legal tender?
last musk
Just show the starter evos already tbh
Based
bleak pine
Inb4 one gets like
A really shitty one
And the others get 2 good ones
Sprigatito with that "Swift Feline" that changes it's typing
crimson moat
its grass's turn to get the Protean gimmick :^)
maiden flax
There are exactly 3 Pokemon that, at their best, use Rattled as their ability:
...
i disagree, quick feet > rattled
bleak pine
In 2 gens we will laugh at these guys getting the protean stuff like we do with Blaziken-Emboar sharing a type
GF likes not making typings good
crimson moat
The only decent thing I see coming from this is if Pay Day doesn't return as a TM
(Yes, Pay Day was a TM in Let's Go)
sharp kernel
If only the cat wasn’t the worst looking starter I’d be down for it having protean
Like at least the duck has a hat
Why are we making Pokémon with no distinguishable features from a regular animal
crimson moat
Probably also because people are sick of furries
magic thunder
Why are we making Pokémon with no distinguishable features from a regular animal
Because last gen the problem was them being too humanoid
crimson moat
I mean that's been a problem for 3 gens
last musk
Scorbunnys line is the only good one that gen
sharp kernel
Yeah that’s not a new issue
crimson moat
And yes, it is still a problem
last musk
Starter wise I mean
sharp kernel
Also what if the weed cat ends up being humanoid, then what?
maiden flax
oh wait ||apparently gimmighoul has an evo outside of it's two forms?||
magic thunder
oh wait ||apparently gimmighoul has an evo outside of it's two forms?||
Yeah
maiden flax
hah
crimson moat
Well I already would have gone with Fuecoco if I bothered playing so I don't have that problem
magic thunder
It becomes like ||a golden man|| apparently
maiden flax
i hope it becomes part fairy
magic thunder
It ||fuses with the coins||, I guess
sharp kernel
I’m leaning fuecoco or the duck
sharp kernel
Fuecoco gives me typhlosion vibes
maiden flax
Which are bad guys generally
what's that got to do with anything?
crimson moat
"It looks like it will be a villain pokemon"
Is about as convincing as
"It looks tanky"
as in not convincing at all
maiden flax
"It looks like it will be a villain pokemon"
Is about as convincing as
"It looks...
hey it's description says "These Gimmighoul hide inside sturdy treasure chests. While this provides them with a solid defense, the treasure chest’s weight causes Gimmighoul to move slowly,"
so who knows
crimson moat
They also said Vikavolt was a fast pokemon
maiden flax
true
crimson moat
none of that matters til you see the stats
fading stratus
43 is fast trust
sharp kernel
Gimmighoul is just going to evolve into the one piece
maiden flax
actually rereading it, it actually says it's acrobatic and not so much fast but yeah youd expect something acrobatic to be fast
THE ONE PIECE-
placid junco
I mean you don’t need a leaker to tell you that
bleak pine
Even better if somehow the roaming form is a speedy attacker with a steel move that has ghost stab
Or some shit
Imagine getting Fast Melm
sharp kernel
Also what was the last go exclusive Pokémon?
sharp kernel
Oh shit
sharp kernel
Wait really? I have home, where’s my melmetal
fading stratus
Wasn't the meltan event timed
placid junco
Pretty much
Nowadays you need lets go to reliably get Meltan candies
sharp kernel
I was thinking about downloading go this week since I work in the city anyways
bleak pine
It has to be the first time but I am pretty sure this was in right as Go comlatibility started
Imagine being one of the people that grinded it to 500 only to see them give a better Melmetal later
Pretty sure it's gmax move is good too
sharp kernel
I legitly never knew till now melmetal had a gmax
pseudo goblet
https://youtu.be/TKNIWFE2tHE?t=212
Woah what the
pseudo goblet
New mon?
mighty storm
but what do you do with all these coins?
sharp kernel
Tbf, I do enjoy Pokémon with dumb evolution requirements that don’t include transferring
mighty storm
yes zane, 49 minutes ago we got a trailer
mighty storm
Even better if somehow the roaming form is a speedy attacker with a steel move t...
you cant catch roaming
pseudo goblet
I was watching DonBrothers earlier 😂
warm sky
eh I can accept a ghost type not being rational Jot. They're spooky magical creatures
bleak pine
you cant catch roaming
Not yet
mighty storm
No, you literally cant
bleak pine
I legitly never knew till now melmetal had a gmax
It was leaked long before this event tok
Too*
bleak pine
No, you literally cant
Not yet
bleak pine
You can't make them stand there in Go and have me believe I can't catch that MF
mighty storm
you cant give a birthday hat pikachu in Go and have me believe I cant have it in the main games, oh wait
pseudo goblet
Okay this thing looks cute
bleak pine
They did make Go exclusives before however
mighty storm
You dont fight the roaming forms, thus you wont catch them
fading stratus
No, you literally cant
So you mean you have to transfer it through go
mighty storm
BUT chests give more coins anyways, good luck treasure hunting.
pseudo goblet
So the mimic rumor actually happened lmao
mighty storm
So you mean you have to transfer it through go
No
think of it like zygarde
Roaming forms are the cells
the chest is the playable version, your zygarde
pseudo goblet
So you collect the roaming ones, like Spiritomb in Legend?
mighty storm
Sort of
Roaming ones give you coins
chest ones give you more coins
you take these coins, and something happens
||You evolve the chest one with lots of coins||
pseudo goblet
Hmm
pseudo goblet
||You evolve the chest one with lots of coins||
Wait…||that counts as the new and wacky evolution method doesn’t it||
mighty storm
yep
depending on the coin goal, I may use this mon on my ninja run playthrough
cuz dat boy pure ghost 😮
pseudo goblet
Sure that ||kind of method works, just don’t make it as not-likely-possible similar to Volcarona||
||1M coin for an evolution or something would be annoying||
mighty storm
probably 999 coins does something
mighty storm
People, are dumb
last musk
So do you have to catch 999 of them?
mighty storm
I like it
long stone
when go give us something that isn't some kinda metal blob
like i don't hate it but it feels so outta place
sand forge
this thing does not even look like a pokemon
It looks like a Ben 10 alien
vagrant steppe
Wow they really did a other melmetal Mon? Gross
bleak pine
this thing does not even look like a pokemon
Me with half the new designs
bleak pine
It looks like a Ben 10 alien
Hey those look creative at least
sand forge
True
pseudo goblet
https://tenor.com/view/grey-matter-gif-20280384
Combine this little guy with this digimon 
maiden flax
Combine this little guy with this digimon <:blob3c:856791836059762688>
The little guy would put them into his chest
Stuff them in
pseudo goblet
Maybe even chomp chest from Skylander
maiden flax
If they resist push them further in
pseudo goblet
So, ||we need to catch at least 99 of them ||
I can imagine people easily getting the chest mon’s shiny before getting that many lmao
bleak pine
Maybe even chomp chest from Skylander
I forgot of this mfer
bleak pine
Pee
vagrant steppe
Oh god they better shiny lock the coin form
mighty storm
So, ||we need to catch at least 99 of them <:froghead:335578619881586689>||
You can kill them pretty sure
Assuming you get the max drop, || 999 divided by 50 equals 20-ish||
sharp kernel
vagrant steppe
It's a good idea in theory, but Tera is never gonna be used that way
It's only ever gonna be used to make offensive STAB hitters better
Mainly 3x STAB Guts Facade Ursaluna
maiden flax
Wait
Ground barreskewda
With drill run
Now you can blow up even toxapex and dodge electricity
vagrant steppe
I think they did the math, and there's nothing in OU that survives both Ursaluna Facade and Earthquake with the option to put the 3x STAB on either
And no way to guess which one Ursaluna has access to until it happens
maiden flax
Ursaluna facade with guts and nothing else iirc 2 hits every single pokemon in ou
maiden flax
Ursaluna is a very scary wall breaker
crimson moat
The only reason to defensively teratype is to meme on people when your offensive tera type already styles on most competition
Or, to fulfil a double battle gimmick
maiden flax
Since nothing can switch in safely lol
crimson moat
There's such little penalty for teratyping offensively that it's a question of "why should I bother defensively teratyping unless my team is steamrolling?"
maiden flax
The only reason to defensively teratype is to meme on people when your offensive...
There is another reason
That being for the defensive ones that doubles as offensive as well: see gyrados who can ddance then go into tera ground if someone tries to hit it with an electric move to get another free ddance (and then sweep with eq + waterfall)
crimson moat
that's like as offensive as a defensive teratype can get
Not to mention a massive throwback to Dynashit
maiden flax
Gyrados has a history of abusing these sort of mechanics lmao
maiden flax
Even with z moves
vagrant steppe
But you're losing out on 3x STAB
crimson moat
Protect usually feels like a rather powerful move in VGC, but with Tera it feels necessary af
vagrant steppe
Yeah, you've gotta buy yourself a turn
I'm not gonna be surprised when terra is banned by Smogon day 1
crimson moat
It will be suspect tested, but in its current offensive-crazy state it will get banned
outer eagle
Protect in Tera format is gonna be needed for scouting
silver vigil
No max moves make doing funny doubles stuff with it way harder
vagrant steppe
Yup, and with how hyper offensive Tera is, it'll just be worse I guess
silver vigil
Coalossal has no good rock move without Meteor Beam
vagrant steppe
Ready for 3 years of Ursaluna on every VGC team?
crimson moat
Tera substitutes having bulky survivability for even more offense immdeiately
pseudo goblet
Gengar with flying Tera
pseudo goblet
Literally nothing
vagrant steppe
You've gotta check the sweepers with anything you're terraing defensively
crimson moat
The biggest breath of fresh air is that Tera doesn't have a max airstream equivalent
silver vigil
Ready for 3 years of Ursaluna on every VGC team?
don’t forget Arcanine for the first two
vagrant steppe
Wait Basculeigon might be the one mon that can check Ursaluna
And it has Adaptability meaning it gets 4.2x STAB off a terra
crimson moat
Wait Basculeigon might be the one mon that can check Ursaluna
Avalugg 
vagrant steppe
Yeah that fucker better be shiny locked then
outer eagle
how fast is Basculegion
vagrant steppe
70
pseudo goblet
https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1589280912638103554?s=19
Inhale* boi
vagrant steppe
It can't be facade checked
silver vigil
70 is the most depressing speed tier
outer eagle
Bisharp do be depressing
crimson moat
60 is a pretty depressing one too
sand forge
43 is also depressing
silver vigil
43 is good
outer eagle
any speed tier between 55 and 70 is depressing tbh
crimson moat
80 is like mach 2 speed for gen 7
placid junco
ursaluna at least has the bulk to survive it's speed
sand forge
Not for a Pokémon that zips about
vagrant steppe
Ursaluna is bulky, so you've gotta out speed it and kill it before it facade sweeps your team
sand forge
vagrant steppe
And Basculegion might be the only thing that you really can use to guarantee it does that
sand forge
Does TR stand for Trash Rank
crimson moat
Trick Room Gen 4 
placid junco
inb4 gengar gets levitate back to stop ursaluna reign of terror
silver vigil
70 is the worst because it both simultaneously might as well be 0 but also that’s like 2/7 of your BST gone
bleak pine
VGC before the DLC was magical
vagrant steppe
inb4 gengar gets levitate back to stop ursaluna reign of terror
Honestly we need it
bleak pine
The funnest time I had with Pokemon
vagrant steppe
We need SOMETHING to check Ursaluna
bleak pine
I wish we had it back
pseudo goblet
inb4 gengar gets levitate back to stop ursaluna reign of terror
So Gengar with flying tera
vagrant steppe
And rn, it looks like there's all of nothing
sand forge
Priority 7 move "If your opponent has Terastyled on you, set their health to 0"
vagrant steppe
Ursaluna has the freest meta we've ever seen
pseudo goblet
Castform?
vagrant steppe
It can answer EVERYTHING in the format
bleak pine
AG ursa let's go
pseudo goblet
Ah
vagrant steppe
Luna is going to AG if they don't outright ban Tera (like they will)
silver vigil
vagrant steppe
Ursaluna is gonna be guaranteed to be on EVERY VGC team tho
placid junco
lmao
vagrant steppe
Well maybe not every, but it's gonna be a free slot
placid junco
well I can't argue with those numbers
pseudo goblet
The slow gen 7 starters curse 
vagrant steppe
Ah so he's fine then. He's been bad for 8 gens
outer eagle
how many mixed attackers does SwSh OU have
placid junco
eviolite ursaring gonna be instaban from NFE
vagrant steppe
Man what a broken bear
placid junco
i mean ursaring in general is probably too busted for NFE
crimson moat
So far from discussion I see, the best checks to Ursaluna all aren't in Gen 9 debut
Urshifu
Kartana
Volcanion
outer eagle
Eviolite Ursa is probably NU
placid junco
Actually what other abilities does it have
quick feet and unnerve
vagrant steppe
But 3x STAB earthquake might still be enough to kill Basculegion
crimson moat
Triple Axel Banded Weavile cannot one shot Ursaluna, even after burn chip
outer eagle
well the important point is Legion is faster
cuz trying to defensively check Ursa is suicide
vagrant steppe
Legion is faster yeah, but can it one shot it
placid junco
final gambit maybe
silver vigil
Man I like
silver vigil
Really don’t care about the new mons except the legends so far
outer eagle
65
crimson moat
omfg
placid junco
hurricane time baybe
outer eagle
crimson moat
you gotta invest speed into Peli to kill Ursa with... what would be best, weather ball?
outer eagle
does Pelipper learn Weather Ball
crimson moat
Specs Pelipper meta?
fading stratus
Specs peliper does 160% min with weather ball iirc
crimson moat
Pelipper as the answer would be so fucking funny
Can switch into EQ and threaten Ursa
vagrant steppe
Wow Pelipper is gonna save us from the Ursaluna reign of terror
outer eagle
silver vigil
I’m assuming Tera is start of turn
crimson moat
Yes
outer eagle
Air Balloon H-Zoroark 
fading stratus
How's ursaluna Vs urshifu calcs
vagrant steppe
Urshifu isn't in
fading stratus
Oh it isn't
Welp
crimson moat
Urshifu nearly dies switching in
fading stratus
But does it Otk tho