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dim kindle
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is really good

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like all items got nerfed

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cosmic got away pretty strong

wheat notch
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i feel like cosmic got the shortest stick ever because they killed its passive and now its effecitvely just a stat stick

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like i did liandrys cosmic aurora

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its just not there vro

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it only felt ok because of the 25 haste tbh did not like anything else there

dim kindle
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i mean

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i just feel the opposite

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cosmic feels strong to me

eternal palm
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tbh I hate how their answer to fix AP itemization was just "add more AP to stuff". I do enjoy the fact that we have 2 ap pen items though

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but in making that, you just made zhonyas an autobuy for any champ that remotely benefits from ap ratios

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ie kaisa (even if going on hit) or jax

wheat notch
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2 ap pen items except you got significantly worse at killing tanks we fucking love to see it baby

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the mage item update and we got ufck all !!!!!!! its all so bad

eternal palm
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they have 0 idea what to do

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and ap assassins are still in the gutter unless your name is Akali

wheat notch
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my favourite part of playing a mage is the part where i am entirely reliant on a teammate buying abyssal mask and they never do

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diamond 1 btw 😁

dim kindle
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ap has been quite low

eternal palm
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I just want to play fizz man

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is that too much to ask for

wheat notch
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yes

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fuck fizz

dim kindle
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he just got pretty good buffs no?

eternal palm
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slight buffs to q and activated w ratios

dim kindle
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those are the ap ratios he lost earlier in the year

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when all the burst items were bursted

eternal palm
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I also played jayce recently and he felt terrible, granted, I was playing into a pretty bad comp for me

dim kindle
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sounds cool but idt i can stay on a consistent schedule for it

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here some highlights of post buffs swain

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all roa builds

eternal palm
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oh btw

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I hate the fact you have to reactivate his pull in order to do it now (that should tell you how long its been since I last played swain before the rework)

dim kindle
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nah man that shit is way better now

eternal palm
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I hate it

dim kindle
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you will adjust

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just pressing e again si way better than the mouse input esp when ur kiting away

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in general spacing is just way more important on the champ now

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but i think his base damage is a bit too high on Q rn which is making these tankier builds a bit too efficient

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also i think the swain death Q is so funny

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it happend a lot of times to me this past week

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your Q just comes out after you die when it just comes up as you die basically

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if u spam q hard enough

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thats what happend to luc in the first clip

wheat notch
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i legit thought i queued a normal and then freaked out when i saw +20

eternal palm
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I would have blocked you if I was on the other team

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The hell you apologizing for after whooping my ass

wheat notch
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I LEGIT JUST WANTED TO PLAY A 4FUN NORMAL

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cuz ive been spamming bruiser aurora in norms

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and its like okkk

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its fun enough

eternal palm
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Clearly that build is broken and you should do it more often

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Ignore the 1 game sample size

wheat notch
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its a 2 game sample size

wheat notch
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i just wasnt super locked in bc i thought it was a normals

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idk akshan cant do a whole lot when i rush frozen heart

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night marsh
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eternal palm
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Do yall prefer stride or tf on ambessa?

prisma ravine
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Remind me when all episodes of Arcane release, its some time november right?

dapper kite
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Last batch releases 23.

prisma ravine
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Gracias

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Yeah Ill probably just wait and then bingewatch it

prisma ravine
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Wait were these episodes always 40 minutes?

bold stirrup
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Yep

prisma ravine
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... might have to watch some before the last 3 get released then

eternal palm
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@dim kindle gg's sorry for the throw

dim kindle
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what lol i threw that game

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i got cc killes before zhonya like 3 times in a row xd

wheat notch
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Ah well you know

wheat notch
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finally back

eternal palm
dim kindle
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pyke yuumi is wild

wheat notch
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yeah he was inting bc he was mad he didnt get an engage supp

wheat notch
severe cairn
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I really want them to give vlad an ASU

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bring him more in line with how he looks in LoR

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Blood Lord with modern-day gramphics would be so cool

eternal palm
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You’re going to get reworks to the latest champs like they did with smolder and aurora and you’re going to like it

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Sorry I don’t make the rules

night marsh
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Riot is going to have to perform miracles to wrap every story up in 3 episodes

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Unless each episode is an hour+ long

night marsh
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prisma ravine
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Ok finally watched act 1 of Season 2 of Arcane

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Pretty good

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Ambessa is a pretty neat character

prisma ravine
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Probably finish the season as a whole tomorrow or on friday

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And then I can watch act 3 when it comes out

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I really hope they dont screw Viktor up

slim terrace
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@wheat notch

bold stirrup
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Based or cringe

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Not sure which

slim terrace
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both at the same time

dim kindle
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we do the tobias flip

wheat notch
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Favourite part of playing Karma gotta be almost dying to a 0/9 Ambessa that's a full item and boots down

prisma ravine
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Arcane Season 2 act 2 episode 5: ||Oh Jayce has completely lost his mind huh||

prisma ravine
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Wait since when ||does Jinx have superspeed?||

sinful frost
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Could be an ||adaptation of her passive?||

prisma ravine
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Maybe

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Ok, all caught up

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I wonder how theyll tie this all up neatly

sinful frost
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Three more episodes, right?

prisma ravine
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Correct

night marsh
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What’s funny is, ||I think Jinx has lost every fight this season||

bold stirrup
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||I mean she keeps winning the war lol||

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||Sevika still got her gas bombs delivered to Topside and she was still able to save Isha and Vander/Warwick||

dim kindle
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||ye after silco used shimmer to save jinx after her near death with ekko she has schizo crackhead power
she is actually pretty strong in close auarters||

bold stirrup
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*S2 episode 6||(unless her hair gets pulled lol)||

wheat notch
wheat notch
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what but zeri like just came out

severe cairn
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zeri came out... 2 years ago...

night marsh
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oh and riven

wheat notch
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i am going to attack you with my body

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i am a @wheat notch

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you will obtain tetanus

severe cairn
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I've already withered into dust

severe cairn
night marsh
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ambessa would have folded if she saw ez

severe cairn
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Ezreal would pop his ult all the way from Shurima and since it's global it snipes Ambessa all the way in Piltover

dim kindle
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ambessa wouldve gone for ezreal faster than he can blink away

wheat notch
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Gwen is such a disgusting champ man

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what the fuck

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i love that i cant do anything to her without walking inside of her little circle where her q does 90% of my hp and then i die

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and the circle lasts long enough to take both nexus towers from full health

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sorry for playing man

dim kindle
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gwen is immune to your hatred

night marsh
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Add Maddie to league pls

severe cairn
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come on bro

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arcane spoilers btw so don't click it if you haven't seen

prisma ravine
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I mean

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We basically knew this already tbh

sinful frost
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I wonder if they'll make a Classic Viktor like they've done for other major overhauls

severe cairn
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I hope so

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I'm not a fan of his new design

sullen crystal
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as long as we keep the E

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that's all I want

severe cairn
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aeri this is so funny out of context

dim kindle
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yeah i really hope classic viktor or creator viktor are banger

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usually they dont make classic skins anymore

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but surely one of his skins will come out looking more robotic xd

severe cairn
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creator viktor my beloved

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please don't change too much

wheat notch
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beep boop

prisma ravine
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Still cant decide on if I want to pick up the prestige swain skin

dim kindle
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its not bad but after the novelty wore off ive preferred other skins again

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it has a lot of unique sound design

night marsh
eternal palm
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Seems dumb

severe cairn
sinful frost
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Rewards holding on and enables comebacks

night marsh
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im not a viktor player or anything but just from a visual perspective, his reworked look looks like a downgrade

severe cairn
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it pretty much is

prisma ravine
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Im mixed on it

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I dont mind the new aesthetic, but I dont like that he is thinner and I hate that he floats

night marsh
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yeah he looks like a walking stick

prisma ravine
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Oh apparently he only floats on ult cast (?)

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If true thats much better

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... also they basically only changed his ult slightly

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It doesnt even seem like they fixed his Ws bugs

sullen crystal
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I died of cringe

prisma ravine
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You only can get those if you get the first turret or first blood iirc

night marsh
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I can't possibly see these being a good change

prisma ravine
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Not sure, Ill have to see them in action tbh

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Its a way to reward pulling ahead early without snowballing via gold

sullen crystal
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not a fan

night marsh
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I'm going to be a very angry camper if my bot lane loses a very avoidable 2v2

prisma ravine
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You can also only get them after 2 full items

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Oh its first blood, turret or first three epic monsters

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Yeah Ill have to see them in action, this could go awry

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I figured a tank cant really get those, but if drake is enough

slim terrace
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dang riot pushing all these early lead buffs to encourage banger pro games

eternal palm
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nah, they just want me to get challenger on Fizz

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shoutout Riot

slim terrace
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hun that's only if you get the first blood

dapper kite
eternal palm
sullen crystal
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dw I believe

eternal palm
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how many times must I teach you grandpas a lesson

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thank you grandma

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I can always count on you

sullen crystal
severe cairn
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ok

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but Viktor can get his express shipping vgu at the tail end of 2024

slim terrace
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they're saving her vgu for the demacia chapter of arcane

severe cairn
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they probably fired everyone working on her VGU both times

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lmao

eternal palm
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Realistically, just because I like Arcane, does not mean I’m going to want to play league

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So weird they think the crossover appeal is there

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Maybe if they had an MMO

prisma ravine
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Whereas with Shyvana its the gameplay part theyre focusing on

sullen crystal
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insane that we're waiting so long for shyvana's

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riot really fucked up announcing it

slim terrace
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was that not the one that was voted on?

eternal palm
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Where’s the gragas vgu

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Man has had nasty ass feet for years

prisma ravine
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Ok having had some time to think about it ... yeah the Viktor "VGU" kinda sucks

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Mostly because Im realising that it means that the Viktor we will get in-game is now a Viktor whose vision of the glorious evolution is doomed to failure

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It should've been a legendary

severe cairn
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they're changing TP

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you can't TP while in combat anymore

eternal palm
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So does damage cancel tp?

severe cairn
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I think so

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can't seem to find that part but these changes sound eh

night marsh
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very good change

prisma ravine
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Arcane Season 2 act 3 spoilers

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||Interesting idea for a Viktor skin, basically Jesus!Viktor||

night marsh
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what skin is this

wheat notch
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||arcane saviour viktor||

night marsh
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||is this supposed to be the future one or something? or just a what if skin||

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splash looks fire tho

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this is trolling though, especially after how he appeared int he show

night marsh
severe cairn
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WHAT DID THEY FUCKING DO TO YOU

chilly ivy
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viktor rn

severe cairn
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BRING HIM BACK I DON'T WANT THIS

sullen crystal
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also crazy they did nothing with his W

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his worst ability by far and they do nothing with it

severe cairn
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they should've reverted it tbh

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drag them all in the center if they get stunned, who cares

severe cairn
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they just made him knockoff hwei I feel so sick

prisma ravine
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Oh they did something with the W actually

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Its rescripted, so hopefully the bugs are fixed

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Which was 100% the biggest issue with the ability

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Also hot take: I think this redesign actually works quite well, other than for Deathsworn

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I like new Creator Viktor a little better, only the arm-cannon is maybe a touch worse

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High Noon also looks better if he gets back the orb and the glow on the cape

severe cairn
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I hate creator viktor, personally

prisma ravine
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Fair

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Its personal preference

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I like it, and Im glad I have that skin

severe cairn
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it just sucks that they're forcing this redesign in and erasing the previous identity altogether

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I haven't been this dissatisfied since the mordekaiser rework

prisma ravine
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Eh, the previous identity is still there, its still Viktor, just slightly further along in his character arc

dim kindle
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the only one i can stand looking at is prototype

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everything else is horrible

prisma ravine
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Disagree, I think Death Sworn is the only one thats a strict downgrade

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Base ... yeah I do prefer old Viktor but the new one isnt bad

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Full Machine is way better now

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Oh, we got the VO before we got what the skin looks like

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Wack

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Anyway, just need to see gameplay now, but tbh I'm actually mostly fine with this now

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The only part that Im iffy on is that this version of Viktor has a vision of the glorious evolution that, unless they explore it further in another show, is doomed to fail

severe cairn
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I don't mind a skinnier viktor but I prefer the old proportions

prisma ravine
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Thats fair

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I think I do too, except for High Noon

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For High Noon the skinnier proportions actually work much better

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Still I expected way worse, and Im actually decently happy with what we got

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The VO is a massive improvement, which isnt terribly difficult but eh

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Like his old voicelines just basically made him a saturday morning cartoon villain, they never matched the character he actually was, and the new ones do

prisma ravine
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eternal palm
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Why is Viktor just casually 5’11 90 pounds now

prisma ravine
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Arcane had him start out as a frail undercity dweller

night marsh
eternal palm
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Yeah that’s a fact

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That’s definitely you @dim kindle

dim kindle
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this is not my viktor

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jokes aside the most confusing part to me is that ok lets accept that we are adopting arcanes viktor thats fine

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but this isnt even really that

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the base viktor is a whack hybrid

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we also didnt get the actually amazing arcane VA

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and the model just looks really bad

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he can be thinner

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but his legs look straight fucked up

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i like prototype the most cuz its basically a s1 viktor what if

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and looks the most reasonable

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creator viktors attire does not work with the twig body

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death sworn is straight garbo

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high noon clothes look like they dont fit properly but its kinda ok

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psyops is also fine

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new skin is also like fine because its just hey here is arcane jesus viktor

severe cairn
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I don't like how creator's machine arm is so puny now

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part of the reason I love that skin is because of the sick as hell overcoat with that giant railgun on his back

severe cairn
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I don't like this W animation very much

dapper kite
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Yooo, is that veigar cage?

severe cairn
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ikr

prisma ravine
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Tbh I think Creators Overcoat looks better now, Im only iffy on the arm

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Mostly because it doesnt look like it segments like the current one does?

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If youre on PBE, does it always stay tubelike like that?

severe cairn
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the splash art is a huge downgrade

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and also the staff

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I miss my big, grungy death stick

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wait did they swap his robot arms

prisma ravine
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Its slightly changed

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Ok High Noon still gets the glowy cape and orb

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Possibly his best skin now

severe cairn
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I have a big issue with his high noon skin

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this pauldron was designed for his robot arm to be able to swivel around it on that little track

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but now it's disconnected from it entirely

prisma ravine
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Huh I didnt even notice

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(Dont have the skin to be clear)

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Either way, I'm actually reasonably happy with those

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Im most happy that the W is finally fucking fixed

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No more walking out after 2 seconds without being stunned

eternal palm
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I can never play ibg viktor again with him looking like that

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Weak ass

prisma ravine
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Thank god, fuck ibg viktor

severe cairn
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is ap karma mid good now?

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also a top viktor player is crashing out over them basically doing nothing to his kit and calling it a VGU

severe cairn
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oh the creator viktor splash covers up vel'koz because of the cape

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I wish they just made a new splash for Creator Viktor, the original's pose works better with the robot arm carrying the staff

wheat notch
prisma ravine
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They did at least fix the W

severe cairn
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HOLY SHIT

night marsh
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Fucking finally holy shit

sinful frost
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okay but
what does it say

slim terrace
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as riot announced, china is the first region to test voice comms in game

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I feel like even without knowing french that's parsable nyaruhodo

sullen crystal
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man I missed playing league

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had a yas/yone bot duo who BM'd the whole game

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yone did less damage than sona on the other team

wheat notch
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had a guy add me and say that what i did toplane made them want to gouge their eyes out

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i think they need to learn how to have fun with toys

wheat notch
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i wouldve killed like 2 people for sure if not for that

severe cairn
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League of Legends OG would be peak tbh

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I'd play that forever

dim kindle
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there was chronobreak

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private league project that was basically season 1

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the higher skill level of players nowdays kinda showed some problems with old league

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like marksman are even more broken than we thought

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etc

slim terrace
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sadly that project was killed by riot itself

severe cairn
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I'd still like to see that brought back officially

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if Fortnite could do it, idk why League can't

night marsh
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You put a lot of effort into chronoshift but I assure you the chronobreak is coming

severe cairn
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what does that mean

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what the hell is chronobreak

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in this context I mean

night marsh
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old meme about riot zed being hella cringey

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chronoshift was the name of the season 1 revamp of league

severe cairn
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OH

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DID A RIOTER SHUT IT DOWN AND GIVE THEM THAT AS A MESSAGE

bold stirrup
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That’s so awful it comes around to hilarious

severe cairn
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small indie company

sinful frost
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allegedly
that sort of edgy message is actually really effective at getting script kiddies to knock it off

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but it looks really stupid against someone with an ounce of professionalism

prisma ravine
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They'd have to fix a lot of things to get working with their current infrastructure, and probably update everything to work with the new map, only for it to be a hilariously unbalanced mess

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It'd be a novelty that would stop being fun within a couple months

sullen crystal
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just had the most head blown players ever

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the worst fizz and akali I have ever seen in my life

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they run it down and have the gall to ping and flame

prisma ravine
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Wait

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... does Auroras kit actually not explain wtf Realm Hopper even does?

dim kindle
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realm hopper was the ms boost which is now gone

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so it does litteraly nothing

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idk if the W still gives it and still calls it realm hopper

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but yea its a bit weird

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its basically like a self buff she gains with the red aura but now she only gets it from just pressing w

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wait no she gets it from her r too still

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ok wait i get it now

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they removed realm hopper completely and instead just made W and R give a normal ms boost

inner vapor
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how tf do i beat teemo as morde

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i am 0-8 to this fucjking teeemo

prisma ravine
inner vapor
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good game

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im getting the hang of this dude more and more

night marsh
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I’m sorry bro, this has to be the biggest downgrade in all of league lmao

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Not even aether wing kayle was nerfed this hard

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Every argument people used for Viego’s release is applicable here

severe cairn
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you know what really pisses me off about changes like this viktor rework

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almost every viktor player I've seen is upset over the rework but we can't do anything because riot will push it to live servers and force us to deal with it

night marsh
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Also im really confused how this is a rework or whatever they called this type of change. To my knowledge, they only changed his R so his playrate is either going to stay the same or get buffed through arcane viewers

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Vgu *

severe cairn
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arcane players will pick him up for 5 games and then drop him because his kit is from 2014 and is almost completely unusable at higher elos in 2024*

dim kindle
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viktors kit isnt that bad
his main issue is his powercurve is super whack because of core upgrades and his late game not being as impressive as it used to be because of access constraints

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esp into range

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mostly hes okay and it looks like they didnt put in much effort to find significant satisfyimg kit changes

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there are champs in more dire need

dim kindle
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funniest solo of the year

prisma ravine
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They said they tested bigger changes but people didnt like it

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Personally, now that they (seemingly) fixed the many bugs W had

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Im fine with this being the extent of changes

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The W was always the one part I didnt like mostly because it didnt work half the time

wheat notch
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my son i love him so much

inner vapor
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had a good game

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but my cs score still ass

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:(

wheat notch
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wow that image is disgustingly uncomfortable to look at im ngl

inner vapor
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the format?

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or something about the game

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cause i barely understand

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all I know is i smack thigns

wheat notch
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no the fucking stick legs above you bro

inner vapor
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oh

eternal palm
wheat notch
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that doesnt make it any less gross to look at 👎

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im gonna post some random pic i got so it doesnt show up on my screen im soryr

eternal palm
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What a noob

sullen crystal
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wtf why is aurora's damage so high

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legit been 1 shot by her so much

sullen crystal
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also why is k'sante still broken

wheat notch
dim kindle
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more obnoxious is the range on her E now imo

wheat notch
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The only obnoxious thing about it is that it doesn't match Q range

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so you can hit E and miss Q

night marsh
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karma is such a cringe fucking champ

inner vapor
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I carried this game 100%

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look at my 9/6 gwen gameplay

slim terrace
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why do 3 of you not have boots

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roast seems like he was doing fine without them at least

eternal palm
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Boots is for noobs

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Good job Areo

severe cairn
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you really don't need it with Graves anyways

severe cairn
severe cairn
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why haven't we gotten a jarro lightfeather legendary skin for ezreal

severe cairn
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are you fucking kidding me

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MY CLIENT IS BUGGED

night marsh
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you can actually get punished for refusing matches? icant

severe cairn
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yeah

night marsh
wheat notch
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These nerfs look pretty meh

night marsh
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My biggest gripe with her was the shield

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Only other issue is the way her trading is uninteractive

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I’ll take anything I can get

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Btw they updated some of the viktor skins to not look like a malnourished hwei clone

dim kindle
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Yea looks better

eternal palm
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Still looks like an anorexic pos

prisma ravine
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New your shop btw

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Only decent one I got is winterblessed Swain

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Which I might get, especially since I think Im skipping his prestige

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Its just not my thing

slim terrace
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this certainly is a skin shop of all time

prisma ravine
#

Well the Maokai skin is good

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Im pretty sure thats the most popular Galio skin too

eternal palm
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that's a top 3 Galio skin for sure

slim terrace
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I feel like top 3 galio skin is accurate but I also think he has bad skins

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I only really like the legendary one

slim terrace
eternal palm
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the best galio skin is pink chroma infernal

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it's so vibrant

dim kindle
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I got some stuff i like

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But not like enough

eternal palm
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Alright time to start taking ranked seriously and stop playing fill

eternal palm
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I just got hit with the complete top lane experience. First ranked game top in a loooooong time

severe cairn
slim terrace
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damn they gave him a thigh gap even?

severe cairn
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this ain't my viktor

night marsh
wheat notch
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not rly tbh

wheat notch
night marsh
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Reducing communication ability is always going to be a net negative

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Riot Lyte’s effect on this game needs to be studied

wheat notch
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why should a viral hog be allowed to speak my holy tongue

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let him rot in the cage of his own making

eternal palm
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because 80% of league players are toxic

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so cutting off 80% of the community is bad

wheat notch
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idk man if 80% of the community is incapable of behaving like normal people maybe those 80% shouldnt be allowed to make it everyone elses problem

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thats just me tho

eternal palm
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I've told a few people they were conceived in a Denny's parking lot myself

night marsh
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One of the issues is that riot is too heavy on some punishments

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Even roast got a honor level drop for something completely out of game which would penalize you under this system

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We’re the only competitive game that doesn’t that voice chat yet still get treated worse than other options lol

wheat notch
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vc would probably be a net negative for most of the playerbase

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there is very little you can convey in vc you cant convey with pings tbh

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also yeah what happened to roast sucks but thats like the insane minority of actual honor stabs

night marsh
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especially when in the heat of a moment

wheat notch
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ye and i specify most of the playerbase because in the heat of the moment no one below like gm will be able to listen and take action wrt that call 😁

night marsh
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we're also missing pings for actual questions

wheat notch
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at least in masters u for sure will not be able to respond to teamfight calls

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so i dont think the majority of the playerbase will

night marsh
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wdym by teamfight calls

wheat notch
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who to target

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ult sum callouts

night marsh
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I think if someone is in your ear telling you you isntead of pinging

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wait yeah I disagree with all of that

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your'e telling me you dont play flex with friends below gm and they dont liosten to your calls ond iscord?

wheat notch
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I play scrims and in an amateur league with my mates and 2 of them are masters and none of us are good at making or listening to calls 🙂

night marsh
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I think it might just be a difference personal experience. You'd definitely listen to a call over a ping

wheat notch
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The only time calls felt important whatsoever was when I was playing with Bardinette and we were trying to maximise his ass abandoning toplane for bot dives

wheat notch
night marsh
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ok but is tha not just a minority case

wheat notch
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I don't know! I just also think there isn't a real need for it

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Like what about the pros who don't speak the same language and work just off of pings icant

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I am not above a professional

eternal palm
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Pros still understand “group” and champion name meaning target

wheat notch
night marsh
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we can just watch a pov of a pro player and see how they commuinicate

eternal palm
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Like when me and my filthy casual friends play ranked flex or clash, the only thing we still use pings for is for like missing but we also say it out loud

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Or like pinging fog of war to where we think they are

night marsh
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liek the biggest critique of vc I always see (that is truly valid) is one team having ana dvantage over the other because all of their players are using vc

eternal palm
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Yeah, like you def use both, but speaking, especially for target selection in team fights or asking for a kite back/disengage is much easier to do over actual comms

wheat notch
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I think it matters like

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a little bit

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that you're both american lol

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and I play on the hodgepodge icant

night marsh
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like god knows how many times I see my jungle abotut o start a fight I can't get to because of the wave and he doesn't listen to pings

eternal palm
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There’s a good amount of people in NA that don’t speak English either tbf

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I’ve had so many Spanish speaking players

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In ranked before

wheat notch
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I meant partially more so in the prejudice department as well

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If there is a french accent in voice

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it's gg bro

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pack it up

night marsh
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oh we'll have that but for women

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but yeah Is ee what you mean

wheat notch
#

europe known for having zero women

night marsh
#

facts

wheat notch
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i was developed by big hologram

wheat notch
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if someone starts typing numbers as a substitute for arabic letters chatroom implodes

night marsh
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I played a game with a italian duo

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went into their discord to flame them afterwards

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but I couldnt understand a thing they were saying with their thick accent

wheat notch
eternal palm
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Man cursed out Rick’s cousins

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Also, wasn’t it well documented that one of the old Chinese super teams that had a mix of Korean/Chinese players communicated in game using English? Since it’s the most universal language

wheat notch
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I've no idea

eternal palm
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Surely in Europe everybody knows what “group” means

wheat notch
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not if it's a woman saying it gg

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make sandwich dishwasher

eternal palm
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Well yeah, that’s a whole different thing

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Patriarchy sucks

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Gaming community as a whole sucks

wheat notch
#

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

eternal palm
#

But sometimes you get lucky and get real human beings

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Who can become life long friends

wheat notch
#

if I were not a gamer I would never have entered this server and met like

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Rag

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or sand...

night marsh
#

rag was reincarnated into needle

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sand is a brainwashed pokemon slave

wheat notch
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He's not eating 20 eggs

eternal palm
#

Tcg communities are a bit more tight knit imo, you still see sexism, but not at the level that you would see at say a call of duty discord server

night marsh
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if rag was here during MD release

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I'm like 99% sure it would just be the same chat as needle lol

eternal palm
#

What’s wrong with eating 20 eggs? I eat 4 for breakfast usually

wheat notch
#

something like that

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I don't remember

eternal palm
#

I mean, maybe he was poor and eggs did use to be dirt cheap (they’re fucking expensive as shell now)

inner vapor
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pings mean nothing to me if i'm playing with people

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but i understand much better when people talk

wheat notch
#

This game is bad

eternal palm
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Still better teammates than what I dealt with yesterday

wheat notch
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my head hurts

eternal palm
#

If you had bought an early cull you would have gotten the extra $300 gold you needed to carry that game

wheat notch
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Cull is 180g

eternal palm
#

silence heretic

inner vapor
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holy

bold stirrup
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...did they not already have a card game?

prisma ravine
#

Correct, LoR

night marsh
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also

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I like splasharts but did they really need to just take the splasharts 1 to 1

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no game original arts?

prisma ravine
#

Likely placeholder

bold stirrup
#

not much solid information on how it works or what the release schedule will be like, or even what the packs and such will be like

#

Kinda feels funny given Gundam TCG is supposed to make it's big debut next spring as well

dim kindle
#

What a meme

wheat notch
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my bad

wheat notch
#

Kassadin just ulted me 3 times in 1.8 seconds

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I fucking hate this champ

inner vapor
#

That seems fun is it a top lane champ mabye I can try them out

night marsh
#

no

sullen crystal
#

I forgot how vile Zed is

inner vapor
#

i wanna try nasus

#

he seems similar ish to morde

night marsh
#

Fixed a few issues with the cards looking like shit

sullen crystal
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an incredible improvement from before

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they looked like fan cards originally

dim kindle
#

yeah the prototype cards looked giga shit

severe cairn
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this is what happens when you don't respond to me saying gg in all chat before the game starts

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I was completely fumbling the ball early on because I was trying to learn new aphelios gun rotations but as soon as I got blue green I got a triple kill and the game was won

wheat notch
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wow i just saw new vik in game

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he looks so ugly lol

dim kindle
#

After the changes creator looks nice now

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Hes still a little too twiggy but hes growing on me

severe cairn
#

the kit being virtually untouched is the worst part of the viktor vgu

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lore-wise it makes zero sense for his kit to be the way it is now

dim kindle
#

how so

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anyway he feels pretty good the passive change and ten less mana on e

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pretty big

wheat notch
#

wtf did they do to this champ

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i think i have a terminal illness

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Wow they didn't do anything

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He's just like that

wheat notch
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wow his E aftershock is

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legit invisible

dim kindle
#

10 mana less per cast is pretty huge

wheat notch
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on full machine

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that's so disgusting wtrf

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i didnt realise he had it stacked until after it blew up

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how are u supposed to see that lol

dim kindle
#

i dont think that does a good job of showing what u mean

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let me look at the spotlight

wheat notch
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it just

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is too muted

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hard to see in active fights

dim kindle
#

the bright green on the grass is definitely not the best

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but i dont think that laser burn on the ground is important to see

wheat notch
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its important to me

dim kindle
#

ur not gonna pay attention to the actual burn mark on the ground from any of the skins

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no matter the color

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in a fight

wheat notch
#

what yeah i am

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its like 1/3rd of his damage

dim kindle
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no what i mean is

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ur gonna watch for the projectile itself

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ur not gonna pay attention to the burn leftover mark on the ground no matter what color it is

wheat notch
#

i love how this champ can build burst and still outdps me btw

#

seems fun

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also he just destroys your ears now

#

both w and r have the most insufferable sounds ever

dim kindle
#

I think he got decently buffed but its hilarious they didnt fix his r bugs

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On a vgu

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I immediately had it happen twice in one game that r doesnt chase on cast

wheat notch
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hm i think

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dark harvest might be irredeemable dogshit

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unlucky...

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i thought it'd be solid

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i say irredeemable but its probably fine sup/bot

severe cairn
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I wish they'd give more QoL to his passive

dim kindle
#

They did you get your upgrades way faster on avg

sinful frost
#

new lore pogchamp
new lore pogchamp

inner vapor
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i got stomped by a comforter

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victor

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no idea what he did but he went 24-2

prisma ravine
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Uh

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Meta thats not new lore

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Thats his current lore

sinful frost
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the discord preview lies

prisma ravine
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Yeah I opened it

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ITs the old lore for me

sinful frost
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It opens with stuff about Jayce?

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It can't be that old given it mentions ||Ambessa||

severe cairn
prisma ravine
#

I dont see anything about Ambessa

sinful frost
#

alright I'll copy-paste it

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To understand the full impact of hextech, and the legacy it has left behind in our world, one must first understand the minds behind it.
While much is known and written about Jayce Talis—the vaunted “Man of Progress”—it is considerably harder to verify anything about his counterpart, Viktor. Your humble author has made several requests to the Piltover Council and various faculties within the Academy, but they claim that any records relating to his employment there were lost during the tumultuous events that ultimately led to his death. I will leave it to your judgment as to whether this seems plausible, and simply recount what I have been able to glean from public sources such as the unexpectedly superb back catalogs of The Piltover Gazette, and what little remains of the hexgate construction documentation I was able to source by
 let us say, less official means.
Born to a poor family in the fissures beneath Zaun, it appears Viktor always knew hardship. The polluted undercity afflicted him with both a limp and a rare, life-limiting illness, which alienated him from the other children. Yet despite all the impediments to his body, Viktor’s mind was allowed to grow without restraint, and flourished.
He once spoke with a colleague of mine, about a formative moment in his youth. Playing in the effluent streams of the Sump with his toy boat, he made reference to encountering a “disgraced doctor” who had gone to disturbing and extreme lengths in pursuit of science. Progress needed boundaries, and this early lesson served Viktor well when he caught the eye of the celebrated Professor Cecil B Heimerdinger, years later.

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actually that'll flood the chat so I won't

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but try clearing your cache or something?
open it in a private tab?

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it basically maps onto his Arcane lore

prisma ravine
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Still only get the old lore

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Can you DM me the full thing?

sinful frost
#

k

prisma ravine
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Thanks

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I dont like the new lore much

bold stirrup
#

I can see Viktor's new lore, but Jayce's lore seems to be pre-Arcane still

sullen crystal
#

man why did I not play aurora more

#

this character is fun af

dim kindle
#

its weird because league viktor is now neither old viktor or really arcane vikator

prisma ravine
#

The biggest problem is that A, VIktor now canonically isnt even the form he is in-game, and B, his vision is doomed to failure

prisma ravine
#

... Sion players need psychiatric therapy wtf

eternal palm
severe cairn
#

wait what

eternal palm
#

Yep, exactly

sinful frost
#

doesn't this also remove a bunch of unpurchaseable skins from the pool

severe cairn
#

wait

#

does it actually?

#

how?

sinful frost
#

lemme look at the full article

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which I cannot find

#

but anyway

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nvm
I misunderstood what was being said

severe cairn
#

Is it even LEGAL not to show the price of Ancient Spark in the client? You can't see the price if you have less than 400 RP. Just purchase button. And you can't see the price elsewhere either.

Cause honestly it feels like this may be breaking the law, at least in the EU.

dim kindle
#

i just hate everything about this

#

I think it was always a huge accomplishment of riot to have very fair monetization for non gameplay stuff and that it was so successful

#

the addition of loot was alright because it was lootbox bs but pretty fair and with freebies especially when it came out

#

but this is just full nonsense

#

i understand why they are adding these things

#

there is less income of just regular people buying skins

#

and the money is at the top end spenders so you need to give them stuff to buy

#

i still hate it

severe cairn
#

okay but

#

how are you bleeding money this "bad"

#

yet you have both a gacha AND a battle pass

wheat notch
#

I think they just want more,

severe cairn
#

didn't they strike oil with arcane icant

#

considering they're in production of THREE more runeterra shows

dim kindle
#

well at this point their operating costs are pretty insane so they need to keep a pretty high flow going

#

for stability

dapper kite
#

or did that change again?

severe cairn
dim kindle
#

one is in active production for a year

#

more in planning

#

is how i understood it

severe cairn
#

yeah

wheat notch
#

I remember seeing people be annoyed about it not being set in piltover icant

#

Twitter is a crazy place

dim kindle
#

they said s2 was final for piltover a really long time ago

severe cairn
#

but that's still planning and pre-production for two extra shows

dim kindle
#

pretty sure

dapper kite
#

i was under the impression that news magazines just misinterpreted an interview saying "the new show will cover demacia, ionia and noxus" and running with "there will be 3 new shows"

dim kindle
#

we dont specifically know what next show will be exactly but thats the regions we are headed to in the next projects

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but there is no specific next one noxus then demacia

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or whether it has all 3

severe cairn
#

I could imagine a world where the demacia, noxus, and ionia storylines are all covered in one show

#

feels like a bit too much to cover with arcane's original runtime but maybe they get more episodes

wheat notch
#

They're gonna explain Ionian boots lore...

#

poggers...

#

if they don't mention it I'm not watching it

severe cairn
prisma ravine
#

Makes onhit ashe a bit worse ig

severe cairn
#

what is that base damage buff on the W though

#

nice buff for crit ashe

prisma ravine
#

Oh its cut off

#

They just moved it from total AD to bonus AD ratio

#

So the base damage was adjusted

severe cairn
#

I'm not too big a fan of these changes for kalista

#

I hope the Masque of the Black Rose skins get their own event

wheat notch
#

Why the fuck does Qiyana QQ trigger Electrocute

#

is it Ignite?? is it passive?? either way it's fucking ridiculous

prisma ravine
#

Wait just the Q, or do you mean Q W Q?

wheat notch
#

yes she pressed her stance switch button the fucking attribute based proc damage should not be counted as a separate instance of damage its stupid

chilly ivy
#

q passive q passive

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it's actually 4 instances

prisma ravine
#

Yeah pretty much

dim kindle
#

dunno there is so many interactions like that that its not fair to single qiyana out for it

#

kalista changes are supposed to make the lethality q max build bad

#

dunno how good that build actually is but it shows up every now and then

#

ashe is trying to move her more into crit

#

if i had to guess

prisma ravine
#

Would make sense

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Riot hates ADCs going anything but crit

dim kindle
#

The balance around crit has proven to be easier

#

To be fair

#

Regardless of feelings about crit

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Because the crit items are just used by less champs

prisma ravine
#

Its had mixed results tbh

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Worked with Sivir, didnt really work with MF

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I dont think there was ever a case of switching an onhit adc to crit working though

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Not even Vayne

night marsh
#

to be perfectly fair, vayne should be forced to build crit

#

her current build being botrk gusinoss wits into tank items is pretty stupid

prisma ravine
#

Problem is her crit build is harder to balance and less healthy

#

The only way to make it work is to let her Q damage crit

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But thats miserable to play against and also really feast or famine

night marsh
#

I think being able to actually kill their true damage adc is less frustrating than their adc doing a lo of damage

prisma ravine
#

Yeah they tried that for a bit

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Turns out its actually way more frustrating

#

Because it just became a roll of the dice by midgame where sometimes their Vayne became a point and click assassin

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They tried buffing it without making it crit, but that didnt work because you still go onhit at that point

night marsh
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on hit is fine

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it's a problem where the vayne is dealing as much damage as other adcs but also has survivaibility

#

I don't think beign forced into crit is that bad, I get it's frustratng rng

prisma ravine
#

It had really bad play patterns

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The problem is that her Q is the only thing you can really change to force her into crit, and if it can crit it just messes up balance and is much more frustrating in the parts of the game Vayne is supposed to be weak in

#

Youd have more luck changing the items tbh

dim kindle
#

dont agree on mf but agree on vayne

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crit vayne was pretty dumb gameplay

#

people rushed ie pressed r q for half hp then rq again for kill lol

prisma ravine
#

MFs issue is that you want her ult to be this big, powerful ability, but if you make her crit you give her a massive AoE volley but also the usual autoattacks which she actually isnt bad at

#

So you kinda have to nerf down the ult and make it less satisfying

#

Lethality MF just works better with her fantasy tbh

#

Jhin is the one ADC that works both Lethality and crit, so they just kinda bounce him back and forth

#

I wanna say he is crit rn?

#

Oh they retconned Blitzcrank to ... just be a golem Viktor put a hexcrystal into and huzzah, sentient golem

#

Also Blitzcrank now canonically doesnt like Glorious Evolution Viktor

#

... ok seriously does someone on the writing team just hate Viktor?

night marsh
#

arcane lroe being canon is just troll tbh

#

or they should have at least thought about it better

#

im all for lore progession and champions having definite ends but this has been a mess

prisma ravine
#

Yeah

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Arcane Viktor is a good character, but it doesnt work for his champion lore

night marsh
#

it doesn't even look like they're gonna have singed be the one to gas ionian villages

prisma ravine
#

You basically play as ||a form he has for all of 1 hour and that he literally learns was doomed to failure||

night marsh
#

he at least got a show for that lol

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wtf is the point of seraphine anymore

#

this is going to be her 3rd? retcon

#

that is insane for a recent champ

prisma ravine
#

Seraphines lore was always an afterthought, so there isnt much lost there tbh

night marsh
#

one thing that I wa skind of happy for about arcane was estabhlishing that ||all the champs in runeterra aren't in the same time period. Ambessas's death solidified it a bit. It seems like a good way to curve how many world ending threats there are at a time and to mvoe lore forward.||

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||arcane being canon though kind of fucks with all the lore from LoL and LoR (especially caitlyn) so idk how they're going to fix any of this||

prisma ravine
#

Another lore rework in 2030 đŸ„ł

slim terrace
#

btw did you see that viktor was canonically confirmed to be ace?

#

ofc that got the jayce/viktor shippers mad

prisma ravine
#

Aye

#

Tbh I'm not really convinced by that, because there sure are some đŸłïžâ€đŸŒˆ ? undertones

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But hey, I dont mind it

#

More ace rep

slim terrace
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||the homies did embrace at the end but we gotta encourage more platonic skinship between dudes||

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||I will say with how he interacted in the show I'd personally believe it||

prisma ravine
#

||It makes sense, but its not really how I headcanon it||

night marsh
#

Wasn’t he literally attracted to Sky

prisma ravine
#

Nah

#

Sky was attracted to Viktor, but he didn't reciprocate

dim kindle
#

I dont feel like there is anything to imply viktor has more than platonic feelings for anyone he interacts with

#

Shippers can ship whatever they want but they used to do it on fanfiction.net not tagging creators of shows on twitter and calling them names

#

I find it a bit whack

night marsh
#

how did we get to the point where warwick is turbo broken

#

jesus

prisma ravine
#

His W went from "clunky mess that doesnt work half the time" to "permanent attack speed boost", basically

#

Which when his level 1 gives 70% is a lot

#

It makes his clear way better and his early dueling insane

night marsh
#

having. ajinx get excited

#

just for hitting a minion below 50

#

is insanity

prisma ravine
#

Yep

#

Theyre nerfing it to be more reasonable next patch

night marsh
#

patch? icant

#

58% winrate and not getting hotifxed is insane lol

prisma ravine
#

Well

#

Itso n the PBE

#

They could do it as a hotfix also

#

Its just not announced as one yet

#

Basically it used to have a 0.75 second timer for which the attack speed was kept, to make it smoother to switch targets

#

Except that was too low at low AS and just made it super clunky

#

Right now its 2.5 seconds, which is too much

#

PBE is 1.25 seconds, which should be reasonable

dim kindle
#

They are going on winterbreak but they said they prepared to be able to do a micropatch

#

So id expect we a hotfix

wheat notch
#

😼‍💹

#

love to see an Aurora counterpick herself into one of her worst lanes for no reason

#

you will for sure be the 1%

dim kindle
#

Is it really a bad matchup for aurora?

wheat notch
#

ye aurora is dog shit terrible into anything that outranges her

#

viktor is the most bearable but only because syndra and orianna are even more terrible by comparison

#

honorable mention to cassio and leblanc

#

lets justr say theres a reason vik did the best that game 🚒

#

idk it's my bad for trying battlemage karma she's not cut out for this

#

cosmic was worse than i thought, i figured it'd be decent just to manage the tether but 20ms is literally nothing lol

wheat notch
severe cairn
chilly ivy
#

this is a year old

wheat notch
#

sions w

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has no business

#

doing 300 damage to me

dapper kite
#

god i miss playing ap sion

chilly ivy
#

same

dapper kite
#

but yeah that shit does a suprising amount of damage

chilly ivy
#

good old q w nuke

dapper kite
#

i think they made the hp scaling higher?

wheat notch
#

now i just watched sion run down my lethal tempo crit jinx under tower

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this seems balanced

wheat notch
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lol you're allowed to alt f4 the nexus animations

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i just had someone proc one

humble glacier
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i love having dog matchups into vik/syn/ori

humble glacier
wheat notch
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mfw fulltank malph outdmges my adc

eternal palm
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That game looks unplayable for her

wheat notch
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idk i hate that rakan though

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guy was permahovering karma so i thought ah i guess i cant pick ziggs or karma here

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and then he last second locks raka n

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and i just have a dogshit champ that gets r5 sylas'd

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that guy was atrocious at sylas too

slim terrace
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what can they do, the jinx had the $250 skin

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the aura was too strong

wheat notch
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I don't even think I noticed it in game

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I just saw the splash and thought they were a sellout but it didn't look like anything special in game

eternal palm
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Tbf, I don’t think any skin can look like a $250 skin

inner vapor
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wasn't there like a 500$ skin aswell

night marsh
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I’m sorry bro, this looks like complete dogass

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It’s also just straight up copying cards from LoR lol

wheat notch
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At least when someone had the super simp Faker Ahri skin I would at least like notice the skin 'evolving' during the game, or at least look good with her ultimate active

severe cairn
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ezreal is slowly climbing...

wheat notch
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why are your masteries so low

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arent u old

severe cairn
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I also don't play that many games every day

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and I constantly pivot between roles and champions, I don't dedicate myself to one or two for very long

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except ezreal

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this also isn't my first account

eternal palm
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There’s like a 2 year difference between you guys, if that

severe cairn
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ez skin tier list

slim terrace
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putting the card suit skin that high ain't it

severe cairn
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I know ezreal inside and out

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they're all good skins

sullen crystal
slim terrace
dim kindle
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striker not in S is crazy

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also why is heartsteel in D

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i actually like that one

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also TPA in S? the glove looks super whack

severe cairn
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I love TPA

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the only reason Striker isn't in S is because it's the only one I haven't used lol

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I don't even own it on PBE

inner vapor
inner vapor
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i wish i could play gwen bur she is too hard

severe cairn
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shut up areo

wheat notch
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just bc hes 2 years older doesnt mean he couldn'tve been playing for 4 more years than me

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my first account was made in 2015 when i was like 10 and then i forgot the game existed until 2017

severe cairn
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I started playing in 2015-6 but got banned a year after and only came back in 2018

wheat notch
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ur cooked unc

severe cairn
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soulless unfortunately

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the others are fine I guess but this is an atrocity

slim terrace
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I'm wondering if this will be enough of a differentiation from barrier to stop people accidentally taking the wrong one

severe cairn
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idk why they had to change flash's color of all things, just change barrier's

sullen crystal
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wtf were people mistaking for barrier

severe cairn
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flash is way more iconic

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the left is so much more aesthetically pleasing it's such a downgrade

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it reminds me of like

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pre-2015 summoner's rift

sullen crystal
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why is the new flash lime coloured instead of yellow

severe cairn
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my biggest issue is how they removed the straight line between the poses

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so now it feels more empty

prisma ravine
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Ok yeah flash is a major downgrade

night marsh
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đŸ€ą

inner vapor
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is this cope?

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they banned morde so i didnt know who else to play

night marsh
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considering your passive is unisable solo, yes

wheat notch
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What's even the fucking point of making the lantern such a big circle if you can't click on it the second someone stands in the center

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It's so disgusting

wheat notch
wheat notch
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the hexploder

severe cairn
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I hope they buff sona damage sometime

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I wanna play her botlane (not as a supp)

dim kindle
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no

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bad

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stop

slim terrace
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we had that meta, god that was certainly something

dim kindle
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Taric sona was truly gameplay

eternal palm
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The best Meta was syndra bot

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Shout out g2

night marsh
inner vapor
night marsh
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what ios this second account

inner vapor
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idk can't find the login anymore

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my old league account

wheat notch
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dodging kayn on sight

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jesus fucking christ

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how do you get outfarmed by a support

slim terrace
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damn that's a bannable performance

inner vapor
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damn that looks like one of my toplane games

severe cairn
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just read up on the new skin rewards changes

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you can't get legendary skins or better from chests anymore

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and they're basically gutting the system entirely and coercing you into paying for battle passes if you want skins

inner vapor
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so wild rift

severe cairn
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you can't even get hextech chests from mastery anymore

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this genuinely disgusts me

wheat notch
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Fizz technologies

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@eternal palm fizzboy does this do anything to you

wheat notch
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Riftmaker is such a bad item LOL

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Gave me like 105 AP and nothing else

wheat notch
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curious

wheat notch
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Wow they

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need to remove the cdr on gragas e when you hit someone

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this is unspielable

dapper kite
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Wahr!

slim terrace
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wahr! x3

dapper kite
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Meine kultur ist nicht deine Verkleidung!