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#League of Legends
timber patio
wheat notch
The emote loldle was so funny
slim terrace
it's a classic
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wheat notch
🙂
wheat notch
she's OK
wheat notch
yeah like the entire last season
:^)
honestly this entire year
but no one plays her
so its fine
the zilean ethos
eternal palm
Karma also carries your bad players, while rewarding you if you’re actually good at the champ
eternal palm
What did the patch do? Nerf MR items?
night marsh
actually I see lol
wheat notch
tank items got the best off
night marsh
What did the patch do? Nerf MR items?
nerfed every item
wheat notch
the first ziggs game is whatever my nami dc'd for like 10 minutes
eternal palm
If AP champs are strong in general, than utility mids usually rise in priority (karma, seraphine, maybe soraka?)
dim kindle
to me it just feelsl ike the burst items are kinda good
wheat notch
ye the burst items are basically untouched
dim kindle
bft change is kinda dumb
wheat notch
awoop jumpscare
night marsh
honor kitten
wheat notch
I'm jumping
eternal palm
I'm jumping
That Jhin's movement must have been insane
wheat notch
not rly
night marsh
next league champ
slim terrace
oh yeah that's the mommy
timber patio
actually I see lol
What site is this
timber patio
Wtf
wheat notch
lol
zinc maple
i am way too dom at this game. no matter where i go im the focus of everyone 🤣
timber patio
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night marsh
Are there any weapons that aren’t in the game yet or does League have all of them now?
severe cairn
like as an item or as a champion
slim terrace
I'm assuming you mean popular weapons. I can't think of one
wheat notch
there's no flamberge i dont think
wheat notch
ignore serpent's fang it's not real
prisma ravine
I dont believe we have a double saber
prisma ravine
Taric
wheat notch
i dont believe jt
anyways the easiest answer would be like random guns i think no one has a Revolver ? unless johns weird gun counts
where's my ak47 champ
wheat notch
where's my flintlock
prisma ravine
Gangplank
chilly ivy
where's my ak-47
prisma ravine
Zeri has a machine gun 
wheat notch
those r not the same
wheat notch
do we have any two sided swords
dapper kite
Garen?
sullen crystal
I think wintry means a blade on either side of the handle
prisma ravine
Mordekaiser and Sejuani respectively
night marsh
I meant weapons that a champ uses
sullen crystal
I'm assuming you mean popular weapons. I can't think of one
lamb was replying to this methinks
or what roast said I should have quoted
night marsh
Yeah, was replying to roast
wheat notch
I meant weapons that a champ uses
Then there's no Flamberge // flame-bladed swords yeah
prisma ravine
Tryndamere actually
wheat notch
i would not call that That
severe cairn
we do not have proper whips
nilah's urumi doesn't really count
oh we don't have a proper halberd
a whole assortment of polearms, really
because of the whole nature of League's visual design we don't really have any good sword-and-boards
or one-handed/hand-and-a-half swords
prisma ravine
i would not call that That
It has the flame shape, even if its a broadsword
wheat notch
its not what i think of when i think of flamberge therefore it is not a flamberge
gg
chilly ivy
when i think of flamberge i think of a level 8 dragon that floats into 2 lv 1 fire monsters
wheat notch
when i think of flamberge i think of a level 8 dragon that floats into 2 lv 1 fi...
yeah how do we not have any snake eyes weapons in lol
let me throw poplar at my opponent
chilly ivy
diabellstar ziggs when
you throw snake eyes at them
poplar is ult
ok better idea
diabellstar annie
smol poplar is the teddy, big poplar is the ult
eternal palm
@wheat notch watching teams play ziggs in worlds so far has been painful as fuck
wheat notch
<@265960037552357376> watching teams play ziggs in worlds so far has been painfu...
no idea about playing but theyre probably not building him right (as usual)
apa gameplay was pretty good last i saw
slim terrace
oof 100 thieves all around
eternal palm
I’m so ready to watch FNC and DK play the biggest clown fiesta ever
And it’s going to be great
slim terrace
I'm sure, but of course dk will come out on top
eternal palm
Nah, I told you, a western team is making semis this year
slim terrace
next is to bet what kind of lead fnatic will throw
eternal palm
Granted, the more I think about it, the more I think that team might be TL
slim terrace
are you sure about that, I think there's another team with a more decorated history in there
eternal palm
G2 is too dice rolley for me to put money on them
also them losing to NRG is still fresh in my mind
TL is at least perfectly consistent in their performances
G2 can look like a top 3 team in the world 1 game
and like a bottom 5 team the next game
slim terrace
I'm counting on the former 😎 that's how you pull upsets
eternal palm
I fully expect G2 to run it down vs PNG
and then win a 45 minute banger by pulling a team fight out their ass
sinful frost
Do you play those positions?
wheat notch
i dont
toplaner support jungler jungler support jungler
i dont play that shit!!!
i have like 3 xerath support games in the past few days thats IT
night marsh
wtf is the thing on the far left
sullen crystal
rumble?
night marsh
why does he look naked
sullen crystal
you'd have to ask the skin makers
sinful frost
poggers new feature
someone else's shop
wheat notch
why does he look naked
he's a café cutie
night marsh
🤢
prisma ravine
Yeah your shop seems fucked up this time
I got one champ I play
Ok yeah its bugged apparently
sinful frost
hmm
better check it as soon as I get home
might grab a random skin
are they going to reroll it?
wheat notch
are they going to reroll it?
xd, as if
wheat notch
did you post a video of him inting
no the people upvoting the post don't even watch the video attached 
slim terrace
worlds spoilers: ||my gam crystal ball prediction is paying off 😎 ||
night marsh
These new dark star skins have to be the ugliest batch of skins+champion combos I’ve seen in a minute
They really should just scrap the skin theme idea and make whatever they want
prisma ravine
Soft disagree
I think the Sylas skin is actually quite good, and the Zoe one is decent too
Not sure on the Kaisa one tho
wheat notch
Half of them look too humanlike
Why is Kai'Sa and Sylas just some guys
Yorick is the only monstrosity and Zoe is teetering on the line
prisma ravine
Kaisa works with the helmet, proving further that the helmet design shouldve been the default
dim kindle
kinda whack for kaisa and diana to be on the skin line
already
but ye not a big fan of dark star as a skinline
it also feels like empyrean and dark star are sorta blurring together
esp the diana prestige could also be empyrean prestige
basically looks like prestige empyrean kayle
wheat notch
massive ds skinline fan
but these r eh
the old k6 and ori are god tier though
i rmr thinkinb xerath was super good too but it's kinda aged badly
dim kindle
the old k6 and ori are god tier though
i like those too
night marsh
If Gwen gets a buff that allows her to move while Qing and counter strike in W, then you know my changes made it in
night marsh
Apparently there’s a bug with LP where you gain 2000 LP off winning a game in iron
So you’re having situations of people going from iron to masters off 1 game
But their mmr isn’t changing
wheat notch
ye it's like 2.4k from iron to m
prisma ravine
... do I get Ashen Pyke if I already have his legendary
night marsh
apparently LoR doesn't even have voicelines for their new cards (champions included) anymore 
slim terrace
... do I get Ashen Pyke if I already have his legendary
he has more than one legendary no?
slim terrace
apparently LoR doesn't even have voicelines for their new cards (champions inclu...
I'm still surprised they're releasing content that's not single player tbh
abstract mist
playing the shittiest champ in the game, just got a nerf for no justifiable reason, but trying my best
prisma ravine
he has more than one legendary no?
... does he?
I meant the Project Pyke
Which other skin of his is a legendary
slim terrace
empyrean
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slim terrace
#INTER
slim terrace
good ol white-red
wheat notch
wheat notch
@night marsh why can this gwen champ constatnly oneshot me when shes 2/6 this is bullshit
night marsh
She just needs 3 items and everyone else becomes butter
wheat notch
what do you even buy to counter it
i was thinking about going banshees here but i dont think that was the move ?
night marsh
You can build khanerk rookern or whatever it’s spelled but it’s only going to buy you like 1 rotation at best
prisma ravine
Wait is the Pantheon "Feature" still not fixed?
night marsh
If you mean the hexgate into base one, no
dim kindle
actually hilarious that spear shot is just casually exploiting with that on stream for months
dim kindle
their intent is to buff irelia cuz she already has bad statistics and botrk is getting nerfed
dim kindle
yeah its kinda random
i dont like ult attachments like that
same with swain e cd reduction when ulting
(which is also being removed)
wheat notch
same with swain e cd reduction when ulting
it hwat
wheat notch
slight bot diff
night marsh
Why did they nuke Gwen like that man
That’s so sad
Now you’re practically forced into building full AP Gwen (you already were tbh) and lose out on like 10% max hp damage at 600 AP
All because they turned rift maker into a dogshit item
Also for the love of god, just nerfed wither and not the other random shit in Nasus kit. They nerfed fiora last year to lower the attack speed cut off parry but refuse to do it on the point and click ability, it’s just so cringe
dim kindle
i think the idea is they dont want gwen to build raw ap
and flatten her obscene late game a bit
i think she just needs a bigger set of changes
night marsh
i think the idea is they dont want gwen to build raw ap
this does nothing but make her build raw AP is the problem
brusier gwen hasn't beent playable this entire split because the brusier ap items are just unplayable on her
dim kindle
yeah i get that as i said needs larger work but just nerfing her for now seems okay cuz shes a lil crazy
dim kindle
sylas is such an insane champ design
like litteraly the champ is supposed to just perma fight every single second and gets to win because he is insanely overstatted
idk if its also just electrocute and sudden impact being way too much burst
wheat notch
navori is balanced
think a 1/6 2 components down voli really deserved to kill me there
mb
dim kindle
Yeah voli is really sth else rn
Roa navori is full build
hes thanos until 4 item team fights then he can kinda die (sometimes)
prisma ravine
Still dont get why Navoris wasnt just deleted
dim kindle
its pretty fun to use but yeah it should probably not stay longterm
though id say the current version is relatively healthy
prisma ravine
Eh
It was already super unhealthy, it got more unhealthy with the big item update
You shouldnt be able to buy a 2600 gold item and immediately get to play URF
night marsh
https://x.com/KangasCasts/status/1846617466044403735
why mobile kids getting shit like this while we get empyran skins?
Twitter
wheat notch
I REALLY LIKE
GALIO BEING ABLE TO GO STORMSURGE SHADOWFLAME RABADON'S DEATHCAP
AND STILL BE INSANELY TANKY
WITHOUT EVEN TRIGGERING AFTERSHOCK
dim kindle
idk its worse when he rushes hollow radiance and still smacks you
but either way champ needs to get nerfed lol
timber patio
eternal palm
Impossible? This is happening baby
Flyquest is going to finals and then losing 3-0 to WBG
slim terrace
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/s/Ht6YeTWsVw well that's a move I didn't see coming, first NA import in LEC
night marsh
isnt this the nigga that missed like 43 practies or something
slim terrace
yeah. some people in the reddit thread for that were theorizing he had ibs cause he missed so much and a lot of it was bathroom stuff supposedly
night marsh
lol
also they're apparently adding Mel Medarda to league after her gilf grandmother
we winning
night marsh
league
sinful frost
I think they've only confirmed ||she was hospitalized||
Could be wrong tho
My finger isn't on the pulse
slim terrace
heh
slim terrace
I got into supervive recently and this shit is addicting. I wish there was more content around it, or just attention in general
slim terrace
I'll play with you if you want
rn trying to get better at shrike but kingpin is working the best for me
eternal palm
We can play, but not tonight. I just downloaded it, I need to actually play it tomorrow and at least get the basics down
I heard controls take a bit getting used to
slim terrace
they're doing an early alpha release for a week, it's gonna be going for a few days more I think
eternal palm
It’s a decently big game considering it’s still in alpha
slim terrace
and yeah controls are a tiny bit funky. abilities are left shift, q and right click
eternal palm
90ish gigs or so
night marsh
eternal palm
No way
night marsh
do you have a link to the installer
night marsh
danke
slim terrace
adding to your wishlist helps them too apparently btw
slim terrace
How does it feel to play solo?
also thought I answered this but it feels fine solo cause a lot of people are still bad given the game is super fresh
eternal palm
Either I was off the edi or you guys are gaslighting me, but I swore that shit said 87.26 gigs
night marsh
brother
slim terrace
that's apex legends size right there
slim terrace
hopefully this will be brag-worthy at some point but every win still feels hype
eternal palm
Played my first game of supervive, legitly had no idea wtf I was doing
wheat notch
hopefully this will be brag-worthy at some point but every win still feels hype
wow it's ziggs
actually it's that furry fuck healer from paladins
eternal palm
wow it's ziggs
Don’t disrespect Felix
slim terrace
yeah it's ziggs
slim terrace
Played my first game of supervive, legitly had no idea wtf I was doing
who were you on
wheat notch
actually it's that furry fuck healer from paladins
slim terrace
that doesn't look remotely the same lmao
eternal palm
who were you on
Uhhh the rabbit protector
wheat notch
furry goggles and weird gun
slim terrace
oh soraka
wheat notch
literally identical
eternal palm
Soraka if Soraka could double dash yeah
slim terrace
yeah but everyone can do that in this game
wheat notch
need me a xerath that can double dash
eternal palm
Actually she’s more like mercy from overwatch
wheat notch
😮💨
slim terrace
void is the best I can do
eternal palm
The controls are super wonky though
slim terrace
he's closer to asol I think
eternal palm
I legitly feel like this game might require more hands than I have to offer
slim terrace
did you start off on bots or squads
also honestly I'd recommend anyone playing their first game start on ghost or felix. both are super simple
Felix is just diana with a corki package
slim terrace
you're telling me it wasn't the dwarf pyromaniac furry aspect that did it for you 
eternal palm
I started on bots
timber patio
😉
eternal palm
Nah, the BLG HLE series was still better, this one is just crazy because nobody gave FLY a chance (besides me and spat)
dim kindle
well in terms of gameplay it wasnt the best series ever but it would have been the craziest upset ever if fly won the last game
slim terrace
I'm genuinely proud of them
eternal palm
am i just the goat or what
Wait on the gragas cask how did you stop the knock back
eternal palm
Oh huh, that’s cool
Also I’m guessing aurora’s ult has invincibility frames on cast?
wheat notch
Also I’m guessing aurora’s ult has invincibility frames on cast?
no lol
wheat notch
Then how did malph ult not do damage to you both times as you casted ult
the first time it very much did do dmg the 2nd time i had banshees
night marsh
I told lamb to play with me
I tried it, it's pretty fun but I think they just need to improve the UI a bit
I usually hate the whole drop and pick up items thing that seems to be a staple in battle royales
I do enjoy that the mobs/camps int his game arent just mindeless turn your brain off to kill
and the map has a lot of interaction which set up flanks and actual strageties because you can interact with the z axis
eternal palm
Played a couple of games after not playing for a while and I felt like I was seeing the game so slow. I also fat fingered flash like 5 times
slim terrace
sullen crystal
"how many dashes should she get?"
"yes"
slim terrace
ah yes, the kalista bruiser
she looks cool as hell but I can already see the thread complaints on her, especially as an energy champ
humble glacier
I got into supervive recently and this shit is addicting. I wish there was more ...
scrolled up, one of my friends streams supervive if u want to watch them
slim terrace
didn't the playtest already end
night marsh
Ambessa👤4,700 HP💪329 Armor🤷♂️201 MR💦 Unstoppable🚫A Shield 🛡 Goes over walls🧱Has Airborne🌪Cooldown is only☝second too🕐 It costs 15 Mana🧙♂️
slim terrace
15 energy*
dim kindle
ngl looks stupid as hell
she needs to have really poor base stats
for her class
otherwise this is a crazy kit
also i feel like I remember them saying they would not make an energy champ again
though I actually see a lot of upside to energy on her specifically
it restricts her spam better than mana would
chilly ivy
I'm glad I'm not playing this game anymore lol
dim kindle
shes basically riven without the practice tool requirement
prisma ravine
I mean I ... don't think her dashes are all that crazy?
She can dash a lot, but they're all pretty low range and slow
(Well her abilities are slow)
dim kindle
they are small but the spacing it allows is pretty crazy
prisma ravine
Oh for sure
If I had to guess what they will change
They will reduce or remove the energy restore on her passive
dim kindle
like u can see it pretty well in the video with the jax e
slim terrace
someone called her the peak of mobility creep but I think she's just actually less mobile than yone still lol
dim kindle
she will probably struggle in teamfights and need a really good flank set up
prisma ravine
Maybe the healing on her ult
Nah she's more mobile than Yone
I'd say she is less mobile than a couple champs tho
dim kindle
if it turns out she just doesnt actually die in teamifghts they need to start stripping away healing shielding etc
can she freecast her abilities
like riven
or target requirement
that kind of matters
prisma ravine
Theyre all freecast
dim kindle
but she gets punished harder for it since it wastes energy
prisma ravine
I believe
dim kindle
i really want to see her base stats
prisma ravine
But yeah my guess is theyll balance her around energy
slim terrace
well it depends on whether or not you count yone's snapback as part of his mobility
prisma ravine
Rn it feels like energy is just an upside on her since she doesnt look like she can really run out
slim terrace
cause part of it is diving half a fucking screen away then getting to safety for free with a mini clenase
dim kindle
i do think giving her energy was kind of smart in a way cuz it avoids the rivne problem
slim terrace
Rn it feels like energy is just an upside on her since she doesnt look like she ...
I think we'll see tbh. surely they'd make it so that it's possible to run out if they gave her energy in the first place... surely
dim kindle
unless the costs are just way too low
dim kindle
yes but it matters a lot whether she can just use her shit for mobility not get the energy refund and then struggle to fight once she is on target
cuz it means she has to rely more on flanking
think of it as when riven uses her triple Q and E to get towards target and then is stuck on target with no damage left for a few seconds
cuz the champ cleary has no cooldowns
slim terrace
but does her ult not just serve as the engage tool she needs?
dim kindle
so her cooldown has to be energy punishment for pure mobility usage
yeah
but at least it can miss ig
the fact u cant even body block it is kinda nuts
slim terrace
yeah that much is true, I just figure since it hits the rearmost champion she's not gonna turn into a renekton lategame
dim kindle
think she will be a raw AD ratio scaling champ
like just builds raw AD bruiser
or at least thats what i think she needs to be in order to not be broken
eternal palm
if it turns out she just doesnt actually die in teamifghts they need to start st...
if they did away with Sylas' shield on E, there's 0 chance her shield on W lasts
slim terrace
she doesn't seem to have much cc besides her ult though no?
I'm getting bruiser shyvana vibes, with dashes instead of a speed-up
night marsh
Being manaless will always be a upside, regardless of it being energy or not
I have to see the base numbers on everything though because I’m really curious on the cdr and damage of these abilities
dim kindle
i assume shes gonna be all ratios
like not the best base damage and obscene total ratios on her kit
prisma ravine
Ironically I would say energy is more often a downside than an upside nowadays
Unless youre Lee
For some reason he wasnt designed with energy in mind
dim kindle
agree yeah
night marsh
Energy is to limit spamming abilities (which will probably be relevant for this champ from the looks of it) but for lane champs, not having mana is a blessing. Not having to worry about going oom during laning phase is enough to push me in that direction
prisma ravine
That only works if going oom is a genuine risk, and for most mana users it really isnt
severe cairn
slim terrace
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sullen crystal
this game is so cooked
Twitter
ult passive is just a better version of panth's
eternal palm
My boy Panth is always catching strays smh
prisma ravine
Her damage is lower than I expected tbh
Most of it in the Q, which makes sense
I'm still gonna call that they'll nerf her passive energy regen
Rn she is functionally manaless as long as you hit your autos
prisma ravine
Huh, not having a good sheen item also kinda sucks for her
wheat notch
ibg is fine no
both sheen items sound great2me the only issue with trinity is that atkspd might be a bit wasted
prisma ravine
Wait why did I think Trinity still had mana
Lmao
Yeah no Trinity is probably not bad
Also wow looks like Swain is much worse off now
Genuinely comical how Riot went "We think Swain is gonna be too good with this rework so well hit him with a last second nerf" and then he is this bad
wheat notch
oh right swain update
i forgot
Getting to cast R several times is insane
and that pullback looks so silly
prisma ravine
Getting to cast R several times is insane
Youd think but the ult is so much worse now that that doesn't even make up for it
eternal palm
so I just got back into playing and I've been using simple champions to get my feet wet
and my boy told me Diana is the worst jungler in the game
eternal palm
tbf idk how she's the worst when her clear speed feels fine
especially how quickly she takes raptors
dim kindle
swains locked into bft
u need haste
everything else is doing extremely poor
(roa was trash before too so w/e)
prisma ravine
Also very funny thing but
Ironically their refusal to buff swain just ended up proving that swain mid was hard carried by mains, because now it's doing even worse than support since its pickrate quadrupled
eternal palm
Wasn’t Swain running malignance into rylais/abyssal mask? Or are we talking outside organized play
prisma ravine
Something like that
dim kindle
id say standard was bft rylas/cosmic or malignance for bot
eternal palm
Oh I don’t doubt for bot you went more damage oriented
wheat notch
Karma is so fun.
night marsh
Twitter
Where were you when riot randomly decided to make Irelia good again
I was at home, watching arcane
slim terrace
@coral niche
wheat notch
I think this champ has to be the biggest torture-sim in the game
You just actually cannot do anything against any fed toplaner
Nasus didn't even buy Mercury and I can't do anything to him
slim terrace
unironically yeah
slim terrace
no she means to play as 
eternal palm
That’s Fizz
slim terrace
fizz at least has tools to run away. nothing quite like being an immobile mage whose self peel gets weaker as the enemy gets closer. as wintry pointed out too you just don't do shit to fed tanks lol
wheat notch
fizz at least has tools to run away. nothing quite like being an immobile mage w...
at least tanks dont have enouhg dps
its just
nasus ran me down
and i did no dmg because xerath is all flats
no % like hwei
wheat notch
and i did no dmg because xerath is all flats
night marsh
nasus has been cancer for almost the entire year
your top was trolling picking varus into him though
severe cairn
xerath should have like
some missing health % on his ult
I hope he gets that ASU sometime
wheat notch
your top was trolling picking varus into him though
we are blue side
nasus last pick
wheat notch
how would i know that bro
severe cairn
regardless I think it's awful that you lose because of the side you got
night marsh
it sucks but that'sjust hpow the lane is
wheat notch
how does a camille go 1/5 into a kayle bru
rylais kayle is
something
jesus fucking christ
wheat notch
how tf did i just get honored by someone thats not in my game
chilly ivy
might be previous game, and the ui just is listening for events, and the event happened while you were on this screen
i speculate but
wheat notch
might be previous game, and the ui just is listening for events, and the event h...
damn ur right
thats fucked
chilly ivy
that's just how an event based system works
they just didn't add a check to check if it is from the game you're currently looking at
wheat notch
sobbing
slim terrace
I backslid
night marsh
welcome back brother
night marsh
Their top got skullfucked
prisma ravine
Ah I see what the target demographic for the Swain skin is
... ah man the non-prestige version is cooler
But I dont have RP left, only mythic essence
severe cairn
I like the katarina one
prisma ravine
It seems decent, I just think Katarina has too many skins with that kinda vibe?
I do like the mask though
Ironically I think Ambessas is the weakest of the bunch
Non-prestige Swain is my personal favourite, wings made out of swords of fallen warriors is a 👌 aesthetic
prisma ravine
Aye, it's a pretty neat exploration of Noxian aesthetics
I do wish it had more non-noxians though
Like as much as Zed suffers from, well, "too many skins" syndrome, this would work really well on him
wheat notch
the q on those swain skins
looks so unsatisfying
theyre never gonna top tyrant are they
sullen crystal
that panth skin 😩
wheat notch
Idk I think the ult on the base skin does it a lot of favours
i was referring to q
prisma ravine
Ye I know
wheat notch
the ult is nice but the q just dont hit like tyrant do
prisma ravine
Oh you mean the Q of Tyrant
Yeah fair
Tbf I think Q is the Swain skill that has the least visual impact in general
It's always been more of an audio-heavy skill
severe cairn
Swain should've gotten the legendary and ambessa the prestige
prisma ravine
yea but this skin just has them look like sticks
They're swords
At least on the base version
slim terrace
oof
I actually really like the splash on the prestige one, and not cause it's horny
dim kindle
the base skin with some of the chromas for swain is really good
wish thedy done a little more with the wings
but still a good skin
prestige is uh
the usual high fashion something that prestige has been trending towards for the past years
wheat notch
night marsh
lol
wheat notch
yeah ksante does that to you
severe cairn
I LOVE KATARINA
sinful frost
like in a sexy way or
dim kindle
this was my halloween scare
most impressive part is that he actually wins sometimes
this was my support just now
wild game
night marsh
You never play with me anymore 
dim kindle
life been weird i havent been on my usual times
dim kindle
i just love t1s role as the china slayer
slim terrace
real main character hours
sinful frost
damn ruined my pick'ems
slim terrace
betting against t1 is a losing bet 😎
wheat notch
cldve been playable if elk didnt build like That i think
slim terrace
faker was also just playing out of his mind in that last game
assassinating knight then hitting back to back max range Es on elk
wheat notch
they make that champ look so bad it's crazy
eternal palm
They last game was won if BLG doesn’t grief by chasing with knight leading
And ON just had some disgusting run downs in the games they lost
Getting picked right before objectives
It wasn’t even T1 playing well, it was ON being in positions he didn’t have to be in
slim terrace
can't it be both tbh
ON got picked in that fight around dragon but they still had to turn it 3v4
the last 2v4 was clutch not just cause faker managed to stall until the rest of t1 got there but also cause keria knocked knight out of his tp and into base
nerves got the better of blg but t1 capitalized really well
eternal palm
I’m talking about the times ON would randomly get picked before an objective, g2 at grubs/herald, g4 before dragon soul, g5 before a dragon also
Those are unforced mistakes
dim kindle
chinese supports were just on trolling spree this tournament
eternal palm
Also like gg’s to T1, their team fighting was impeccable in the games they won, but my god, T1 getting their g1 and g4 wins with those drafts…
And then BLG proceeds to draft an equally horrible comp g5 while T1 drafts their best that game
My heart goes out to Knight, because he did everything in his power to try to carry that series
slim terrace
I’m talking about the times ON would randomly get picked before an objective, g2...
o yeah
timber patio
Twitter
slim terrace
lmao
dim kindle
EU WON WORLDS!
wheat notch
get silly w it
slim terrace
and he won't change this cause the next one is galio 😎
dim kindle
how many skins does he have?
the azir one isnt his technically
oh wait the hall of legends skins
forgot those
so he has 6 rn then?
next year 7?
wait no its 2 ahri skins and the lb skin from hall
so 7 rn
slim terrace
I thought you needed to get top 5000 in pickems to get this skin
eternal palm
5000 pikmins? Now that’s cool
night marsh
eternal palm
Yeah nvm, Pikmins aren’t cool anymore
sinful frost
Looks like some Arcane-based skin splashes are dropping
dim kindle
i wanna see the viktor update more than anything
dim kindle
idk how to fix the bug of the league client not launching properly anymore
its legit just a luck game now
eternal palm
idk how to fix the bug of the league client not launching properly anymore
Did you kill all the processes in task manager?
That usually does the trick
dim kindle
yeah i know that ive been doing that trick for years whenever the client bricks
but it still just happens
sometimes now
have to start 5 times for it to load
really annoying
its not firewall either
must be some mac client specific issue
night marsh
idk how to fix the bug of the league client not launching properly anymore
set it to run as administartor, it worked for me
night marsh
did you reset your comp after you did it? ever sinc I did it the first time, it worked every time since
dim kindle
yeah
i think ill try a reinstall next
maybe some cache bs idk
you ever had a match with nubrac
dim kindle
nubrac griefed me 2 times last split today i griefed him
on good notes i broke my losing streak
but instead of playing d2 d3 lobbies im actually in emerald now
night marsh
yeah I was doing well and just lost 3 in a row so I lost all my progress lol
hopefully ambessa carries me to the future
gwen nerfs hit hard but she's still baseline playable ish
just with the same issues as before
night marsh
is irelia god yet
dim kindle
probably
she was already kinda good
and now she can actually dive
that champs weakness was that she couldnt make progress in side unless people gave her the 1vX she wants
now she actually can
night marsh
it's a stealth buff for lane too
cause you can kill them
keep stacks on the tower
and just zone them from walking back up lol
prisma ravine
Swain looks to be about as strong as pre-patch (so weak but not outright underpowered) but even more low-elo skewed than before
dim kindle
he is less low elo skewed
prisma ravine
Why do you say that?
Based on stats his winrate with similar pickrate craters in master+ and peaks in gold
dim kindle
because thats what last patch showed
prisma ravine
But it didnt?
Last patch it was the same in support, and midlane was basically a toss-up because of how many more people picked him up
dim kindle
I mean
prisma ravine
And its not like the changes fixed any of the existing reasons he was low-elo skewed, they just added more
dim kindle
you go on 14.21 mid bot click through the elos and there isnt really much skew
they did
he was strong in low elo cuz youd go conq resolve press r run into 5 ppl and get more off and live longer than you should
in high elo doing that means you died
prisma ravine
No, actually, the main reason was that his passive is way stronger in low elo than high elo because his E was trivial to dodge outside of melee champs
dim kindle
r1 healing is significantly less power budget
prisma ravine
Thats pretty much unchanged
prisma ravine
Plus in that scenario he is also stronger in low elo since thats where the multiple demonflare thing actually comes up
dim kindle
and the low elo skew was mainly caused by R
also again go on 14.21 (pre buff rework) and 14.20 (pre rework) and compare the elo skew in bot mid
and itll show
and the reason why is definitely r1
- a bit passive
prisma ravine
Problem is, mid and bot were purely main positions in 14.20 and got a lot of new players in 14.21
Which makes the comparisons off
dim kindle
he is guaranteed less low elo skewed because you get to stat check less
but yeah whatever
prisma ravine
14.22 normalised that
And now there is huge elo skew in mid
Which makes sense, his E and R were low elo skewed and stayed low elo skewed (more es hit in low elo, more demonflares in low elo), but his Q got slightly skewed towards low elo as well (less strength from positioning)
Although, actually
Maybe its that low elo has a higher percentage of mains now, theres a pickrate difference
Hm
I suppose time will tell
Wait is the new ARAM map live?
slim terrace
Wait is the new ARAM map live?
ye
slim terrace
it has a big wall on the right side of the map
prisma ravine
Do I get the hornybait skin for Swain 🤔
sinful frost
How expensive are the Neo Arcane skins
do I attempt to grind bot games for the Caitlyn Prestige
slim terrace
the brush is kinda confusing to me tbh
prisma ravine
How so?
slim terrace
that said the new walls make trap and vision-dependent champions way stronger
it's a lot lighter color than the typical brush, and it's not solid
prisma ravine
Ah
slim terrace
it looks more similar to a speedup thing than a brush (which actually do ironically exist on the edge of the brushes)
prisma ravine
I dont have the issue personally but I can see it
slim terrace
I'm sure I'll get used to it over time. some other mobas do brush like this
slim terrace
it'll make champs like rengar a lot stronger
prisma ravine
Assassins in general
Which is good
Its the concept of the turret rubble but better implemented
It might also make ADCs weaker which is also very good
Not sure about the inhib changes tbh
severe cairn
can you post the changes?
prisma ravine
I think theyre in the patch notes
I can just tell you what Im seeing as I play
Movement speed panels throughout the map
More brushes in base
Extra buffs when destroying inhib (Piltover side gets refreshing basic abilities and summoners, zaun side gets either hp and damage or haste and MS)
Oh and theres an entire sidelane in the middle
Well a small sideline rather
severe cairn
lemme read then
prisma ravine
The inhib buffs do not feel even btw
severe cairn
why are they still using the old icon for jax
also I like how they buffed katarina even though she's perfectly fine
the E buff is like
holy shit what were they thinking
the R buff is whatever
the varus buff is also whatever, I guess it'll help him with last hitting
prisma ravine
Actually Kat was weak
She still is weak
But theyre always keeping her weak because people complain if they dont
severe cairn
that E change is extra
night marsh
initial thoughts on abessa, her kit seems really good but her damag enumbers feel really low
I also dont think my passive is applying the extra damage to minions
prisma ravine
Wait what Kat changes?
severe cairn
I don't mind the R cooldown change but 2 seconds faster rank 1 is yikes
especially since I play her
prisma ravine
Im not seeing that, what patch notes are you looking at?
prisma ravine
Oh lmao looked at the wrong notes
Yeah no this buff is fine
Shes still bad, she probably still needs buffs
severe cairn
I would've preferred to see W buffs
prisma ravine
What would you even buff on W=
severe cairn
180% movement speed probably a small cooldown change
prisma ravine
Hmm
Could work, idk if thats what Id go for
I think the E buff is right, I just think she might need a bit more power in terms of damage somewhere
A ballsy buff I could see though is if they let you reactivate W to get the blade down faster
severe cairn
or make the W targettable so you can throw it down onto an enemy champ out of reach
:icant:
prisma ravine
That is a bit much tbh
But yeah that could be a way to buff her
I doubt they will tho
Riot prefers their assassins on the weaker side
prisma ravine
Ok impression after 3 games
Inhib buffs suck
Layout is great
Needs some tweaking but I hope the layout gets adapted to the base map
slim terrace
It might also make ADCs weaker which is also very good
not caitlyn, speaking from experience
her traps perfectly block the way on the side alley, she can control it with her range and she can also trap the singular brush to make it extremely hard to enter without being punished
slim terrace
if you count her traps and ult as assassination ig. I just think she's really damn good at zoning
either way whoever locks down that area controls a huge portion of the map
prisma ravine
Moreso in how bursty she is
prisma ravine
Honestly shocked how much people seem to dislike the new map
I get the inhib buffs being wack and the visuals being wack, but people seem to hate the sidelane too for making assassins stronger?
sinful frost
well-known popular class people love to see strong
assassins
slim terrace
I think people are bad at playing around the new area, I certainly was on my first game. sometimes it can feel like you're shut out entirely with that part of the map, but that's also just aram
prisma ravine
well-known popular class people love to see strong
assassins
In ARAM? Tbh Assassins would be a nice change of pace
Historically its ADCs, and that shit is miserable
Because you cant flank, so its mostly "did you roll a diver who can take out the ADC? If not, get fucked."
night marsh
LoR is so dead that they're just literally taking screenshots from arcane, holy fuck lol
slim terrace
LoR is so dead that they're just literally taking screenshots from arcane, holy ...
damn for real lmao
I'm finally ready to serve cunt on the rift
eternal palm
Got a new mouse and immediately I’m 20x the player I was last week
I was really handicapping myself by using a mouse that would randomly disconnect while playing
Also this mouse is infinitely more comfy
dapper kite
Twitter
humble glacier
faker might retire by then
sinful frost
pretty sure I use that mouse too
prisma ravine
Is Arcane season 2s first couple episodes out?
sinful frost
It should be
night marsh
yeah
arcane s2 is just as good, if not better than s1
tbh tho, it would probably be a lot more intriguing if you didn't touch LoL before ||allt he ww scenes for instance, or camille not being the one to kill caitlyn's mom||
eternal palm
RIP bozo
slim terrace
turning the ult from j4 into irelia will probably help balance her out in pro play yeah?
night marsh
watch now so you dont get spoiled?
night marsh
turning the ult from j4 into irelia will probably help balance her out in pro pl...
no idea but the ms removed off passive should probably get her out of top lane
wheat notch
turning the ult from j4 into irelia will probably help balance her out in pro pl...
yea but range buffs seem insane to me
sinful frost
might watch the first three tonight with my cousin
give us a week to talk about it and digest it
dim kindle
swain fantasy
slim terrace
nice spacing
dim kindle
kinda crazy how both the multi demonflare and the stronger slow on early W were relevant there
just reposting without crappy streamable link
eternal palm
I tried him mid and he felt weaker to me idk
I think it's because I tried to play him like pre rework
dim kindle
yeah you need to adapt a little
his r stat checks way less so you have to play more around spacing
eternal palm
you also kinda have to opt for full damage now right? building him tanky doesn't feel viable anymore with the heal nerfs + multiple instances of R you can pop off
prisma ravine
dim kindle
you also kinda have to opt for full damage now right? building him tanky doesn't...
nah its the opposite
going full damage has siginifcantly less value now
you go 2 ap into 2 tank generally
because u no longer get much healing from ap
eternal palm
because I tried Malignance into abyssal mask vs an AP heavy team, and it just felt bad
dim kindle
malignance is kinda weak
its not bad but id say worse than bft or roa
current standard builds id say are bft cosmic into tank
or roa into situational ap into tank
then runes kinda adapt based on hased
eternal palm
I would normally prefer ROA, but I heard the item was dogshit now
dim kindle
haste is very high priority
no its good
roa into liandry with haste runes and cd boots is my standard build rn
fishlord insists that the rylais full tank build is the best
and i do think its strong but you cant play it every game
dim kindle
i think so too
but fish is the best swain player by far so who knows
he goes phase rush rylais frozen heart into more tank items
i do think it works but idt its the right call every game
i think the most safe just solid build is conq sorcery roa liandry/rylais/etc depending on game into tank
wheat notch
but fish is the best swain player by far so who knows
husum disrespect..........
dim kindle
and bft cosmic is the
hyper build
love husum
id say husum is the best mid swain
and i guess fish the best apc swain
wheat notch
mid or bust
dim kindle
but id say mid swain is signifcanlty harder to get challenger with
wheat notch
bot lane snore lane
eternal palm
I would probably try the ROA into liandrys/abyssal mask build depending on enemy team comp
dim kindle
so i guess husum is the goat
wheat notch
tbh tho i saw the husum build and like man
i cant be building that on swain LOL it looks so bad
eternal palm
also yeah, that's the other thing, mid lane is probably significantly harder for swain than bot
dim kindle
bot swain is kinda cheating
i do think the husum build is good
but you have to use it well
wheat notch
im not building the worst lc item and cosmic drive in current year sorry
eternal palm
what's the husum build looking like
dim kindle
i like roa a lot because once u complete you are so thick and bots just cant get through you
you can just 1v2
wheat notch
eternal palm
poe is historically good with builds, what's his build looking like
wheat notch
nah bft is genuinely like really good on swain man
i just dont see a case where i would want it over any other lc item on swain
wheat notch
bft is like the battlemage item except the dmg is so pisser its basically just a waveclear item and swain waveclear is fine
dim kindle
bft does everything he wants
wheat notch
yeah u can
dim kindle
but rushing archanegal is giga trash
wheat notch
its a fine rush
eternal palm
ehhhhhhh, I rather roa > liandrys > rylais/zhonyas then tear on swain tbh
dim kindle
i was a roa hater before
but i think its genuinely good on him now
but yeah he has a lot of build options right now and lots of opinions
wheat notch
i think
dim kindle
but for sure full ap is dead
wheat notch
u just go the ryze maneuver
buy catalyst and never finish it
if u want roa
bc roa is so ass
eternal palm
I always enjoyed ROA on champs that benefit from their level 16 power spike
dim kindle
its the opposite for me i skip cata
i go blasting or gems
boots
and seal
and complete roa
i built cata like once
in 12 games
ive played post buffs roa
eternal palm
also, did ryze get buffed? I saw him picked 3 straight games last time I played
wheat notch
i saw someone say the minion movespeed changes helped a LOT
wheat notch
idk i tried smthg similar on aurora and i just dont see cosmic being a good item
eternal palm
you should consider joining this discord that runs seasonal leagues glover
dim kindle
idk i tried smthg similar on aurora and i just dont see cosmic being a good item
i think getting the flat ms and the constant 20 because bft is always extending the duration