maybe I do not got it
#League of Legends
wheat notch
lol but how unbalanced is ksante as a midlaner
he can rush the worst legendary in the game and still murder me
haha
🤭
formal quartz
what in the world happened bot
eternal palm
Jump scare
night marsh
idk what it is\
but your hud settings or something make me think you'r eplaying wildrift
oh wait the map is max size
wheat notch
Jump scare
he legit wouldn't've known if the mites didnt spawn randomly
its so annoying
wheat notch
Shit takes up almost half the screen
i had a challenger player mention my map was way too fucking tiny so i made it max
and now its actually readable
eternal palm
I should try that, when did you make the change
Was it back when you were a scrub (bronze) or when you were already good
eternal palm
Ah so that’s when you were already getting good
wheat notch
i think the bigger contributor to my elo spike was me getting a pc that didnt freeze in league every 15 seconds because of outdated drivers on a 2013 nvidia card that couldnt update itself
slim terrace
man what happened to donghuap
man last time I saw him I got tired of his comedy feeling super incel-y
wheat notch
man last time I saw him I got tired of his comedy feeling super incel-y
u won't believe what his stand up set is called
"too broke to be woke" 
wheat notch
chilly ivy
and i have 0 counterplay because of EoN
Wdym, you should have thrown and sit on E then W him during the 0.97 secs
wheat notch
mfw ziggs e takes 0.75sec to activate;
and w takes another .25sec to cast so it's physically impossible to play 😭
chilly ivy
No i meant, technically if you see a talon nearby you should throw a minefield and sit on it
It's 10 seconds
But it's still stupidly ridiculous
Also ur sitting in one spot for 10 secs
there you go, ur counterplay is stunning yourself for 10 secs
wheat notch
i was being chased by yorick kinda impossible 
wheat notch
the devil does not need an advocate bro he's the devil
chilly ivy
Bold of you to assume I'm not the devil
wheat notch
cope
chilly ivy
Morg mid is funny, she just doesn't poke as much
So dmg wise I'm in the dumps
But i win games with her by catching someone with the 3 year snare
She's a weird blitzcrank
wheat notch
oomf i play morg mid i know 
chilly ivy
Ok ommf
wheat notch
Brand clear is crazy
He gets 3 stacks on one grub and that grub gives the other 2 grubs the 3rd stack w/ the explosion
dim kindle
ye and after liandry you do q w e and u can start running away from the camp cuz itll die
wheat notch
"Zilean isn't broken because his winrate in SoloQ is bad"
And I even checked and he's 53% in mid and that's bad because he only has 7k games played
pick a struggle
formal quartz
yea I just know I lost if the enemy picks zilean
but not like I'm going to ban a 0.1% playrate champ
wheat notch
I think bro is just salty he can't get out of Emerald with 1.6mil on Zilean
wheat notch
wheat notch
make it a 5 loss streak (who couldve foreseen this)
wheat notch
make it a 0 loss streak cuz im the fuckin best baby 🔥
chilly ivy
Gj
wheat notch
why does this one naut mid guy go roa rift liandry
im just getting popped like a balloon
well
it worked out i guess
3dmg items and i dont even do that much
yikes
eternal palm
Not going protobelt on naut mid seems weird
wheat notch
does that thing even have haste anymore
like i get roa rush
but my god rift and liandry felt terrible
eternal palm
Wouldn’t be able to tell you, I haven’t built protobelt this season. But either ways you’re never going to pop off damage wise with naut mid, might as well max out on your potential pick potential
You probably go protobelt + something else into full tank tbh
eternal palm
It’s for when you Q the wrong person and walk away so they can get burned 
Also, wtf is that Galio build
chilly ivy
He will smash you
wheat notch
It’s for when you Q the wrong person and walk away so they can get burned <:copi...
mass applying burn with e plus multiplicative dmg amp is nice but
u just get popped at 3 items lmao
though that guy buys sorcs instead of ionians so
maybe he pops them first
eternal palm
u just get popped at 3 items lmao
Yeah this is the thing about naut mid, it’s like full AP malph, you just get popped on any botched engage, except unlike AP malph, it’s way harder for you to pop somebody immediately
dim kindle
project naafiri looks sick
the other 2 are a miss for me
as is tradition for project skins
prisma ravine
Im gonna guess they made project Naafiri before they nerfed her into oblivion
Given how unpopular she is now
formal quartz
Non humanoid champs are unpopular unfortunately
wheat notch
Yeah this is the thing about naut mid, it’s like full AP malph, you just get pop...
wbat
naut mid still buys full tank
i was just netdecking a random in na gm
dim kindle
Im gonna guess they made project Naafiri before they nerfed her into oblivion
she got buffed like twice since then
shes pretty decent now
wheat notch
is tanksuo back
this guy is piss stomping
oh hes going sstormrazor 3rd shieldbow 4th
wheat notch
i hope i never get autofilled as top again
this role fucking sucks
It's crazy how I would rather play every other role in the game except for that one
eternal palm
You have no impact
wheat notch
It's not about impact I fucking hate singleplayer long lane
lane designed entirely around counterpicks and fundamentals like I'd rather bash my head in playing Plants vs Zombies in the jungle please
It doesn't help it was the first game of the day so I just inted
At this point I just have to learn how to play Ziggs top (person who will get Erased by Darius/Vayne/etc.)
slim terrace
naut mid still buys full tank
does he? could've sworn doinb played him full ap, but idk how it's changed since then
wheat notch
does he? could've sworn doinb played him full ap, but idk how it's changed since...
i mean i just assumed bc i tried full ap and that shit was so squish
all health no resists is wack
also riftmaker and liandry feeling p0retty meh on him
i get roa tho
mana ap health good
wahey
dim kindle
doinb ap naut was a frw years ago and had his ratios nerfed since then
unless he recently picked it again and i dont know about it
night marsh
it's crazy cause kayle shits on gwen
eternal palm
Even before it was nerfed the damage still wasn’t amazing
He said it himself that protobelt + Q was broken, so you picked it more for the utility + naut being immovable in lane
slim terrace
1/5 kayle shutdown
but she has a cs lead 
slim terrace
i mean i just assumed bc i tried full ap and that shit was so squish
I feel the same way about galio, but I'm pretty sure he's like 99% ap build
wheat notch
oh galio is innately tanky enough bc of w
also aftershock. which this naut mid guy doesn't play
dim kindle
naut top is pretty legit though
as a tank
wish theyd buff his clear so we can take him back into his OG
slim terrace
that used to be my main for jungle, oof
tbh at my elo I could still probably play him, but ganks on naut are so nice
wheat notch
his clear isnt THAT bad
you full clear in like 3:45 or smthg
which means you can miss scuttle. but. simply dont(tm)
wheat notch
just take scuttle lv3 trust
escape with q
realistically u prob lv2/3 gank
instead of full clearing
timber patio
yo i kinda wanna play reksai now
changes look cool
i think reksai is still one of my most played champs ever, i just havent played her much since the season 7 or whatever changes
sullen crystal
league has finally stopped me playing
wheat notch
yeah smae
eternal palm
Twitter
timber patio
https://twitter.com/notcrypticno/status/1760429714684973136?s=46&t=OyNpL3k9SfLfk...
Goat
wheat notch
ngl
fuck 2%ms
the atk speed statmod is so broken
feel like i took my training weights off LMAO
dim kindle
i havent taken ms shard ever yet
it seems a bit too undertuned
which is crazy to think about with how good ms is
werent ms quints 1.5% each
so full ms quints was 4.5%?
even those werent taken much in my memory
wheat notch
which is crazy to think about with how good ms is
thats what i thought
and it felt nice
but god the atkspd is so much nicer
humble glacier
project naafiri 👀
also riot fumbling their fighting game from the beginning it seems...
sullen crystal
what the dog doin
night marsh
That project splash is sick
slim terrace
even those werent taken much in my memory
I remember kata wanted them cause ms is real damn good on her
idk who else it was good on though
prisma ravine
Kat used them sometimes, depending on which version
But tbh Im not sure any champ would use them nowadays
Theres so many ways to get MS from items that you just hit the caps too early
wheat notch
wheat notch
mid diff
night marsh
maokai is still at a 53+% WINRATE
night marsh
they only nerfed him in the support role iirc
dim kindle
they only nerfed him in the support role iirc
nah he got nerfed again but they went too soft
he lost some base armor and they took very minimal damage off his abilities
really dont get why they are treating him with the soft glove
eternal palm
Because he got his base stats butchered before he popped up again in jungle last season
High key, if you want to take him out of support, change his ult back to OG ult and make W and Q have really high base cd’s
dapper kite
Twitter
wheat notch
idc what role Mao is in I'm sick of seeing that log in my games
i hate his w so much
eternal palm
W is needed though imo, like dealing with hyper mobile champs becomes so easy when you have a mao on your team
I do think we should change his ulti back to his OG ulti though
Current ulti is too good as an engage/zoning tool around objectives
Or even on flanks
prisma ravine
The minimum range is interesting
Im gonna guess theyll make GPs passive not work with it tho
wheat notch
W is needed though imo, like dealing with hyper mobile champs becomes so easy wh...
he shouldn't be mcfucking ubtargetable during it
dim kindle
think he has been an issue on and off again ever since they made his ult so much better
his control around objectives is just crazy
night marsh
he's kind of the poster boy for every issue with league rn minus mobility
safe as fuck
tanky as fuck with a low amount of items
cc for days
so much fucking damage for no reason
free items because support is an inflated role
eternal palm
I mean, we should be looking at the support role, I said from day 1 the support changes made the role broken
night marsh
they have nerfed the role for like the 4th time this season
eternal palm
And that has been proven by all the hwei and other high damage supports we’ve been seeing in pro play
night marsh
but it's realistically impossible to nerf it without killing it
supports just being able to roam is so broken
I think a large portion of that is grubs existence
eternal palm
Ashe support being able to go dorans start has always been problematic to me tbh
night marsh
grubs give top/mid/jg another objective to fight over which could swing games, supports just have to show up 30 seconds beforehand
and can decide the game right there
dim kindle
support gap is unreal sometimes yeah
ive been noticing a lot playing jungle this season
slim terrace
bruh I rolled chibi hearsteel sett off my free tft roll what the fuck
why is this where my luck goes
what's even worse is my friend really wanted this one so I can't even talk about this with her
severe cairn
wheat notch
@dim kindle missed the hwei stream pensive
dim kindle
my only issue is i int in side lane sometimes
thats what happend in the first one
my other issue is getting put jungle most of my games
because no one on na wants to jungle apparently
wheat notch
no one wants to jungle
wheat notch
clash going well right now
if u ignore that my league client just fucking BROKE in the hwei game and made me go 1/5 in lane out of tilt
wheat notch
if u ignore that my league client just fucking BROKE in the hwei game and made m...
by broke it made my mouse go outside of the league game
and in full screen it ruined the colors and couldnt even cap[ture the full screen
but if you check obs the recording is 100% fine xd
wheat notch
these guys HATE me
slim terrace
they fear you
eternal palm
Wait clash is today?
wheat notch
hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhah it happened agaain
and i griefe dlane
:DDDDDDDDDDDD
nice full screen btw
restarted pc
for nothing
restarted game
for nothing
switched between fullscreen adn windowed several times
for nothing
good game company
i think
i even checked
my alt
and it worked fine
its because of nuclear throne
im killing myesfg
why can only 1 game have mouselock on
wheat notch
small diff
wheat notch
😀
wheat notch
yahoo
wheat notch
oh thats a lot of dmg
feels like shit though
idk what that korean onetrick sees here
slim terrace
good ol tank azir
prisma ravine
wheat notch
Building frozen heart?
Elderwood goes Liandry's -> FH/Abyssal -> Abyssal/FH in KR Challenger
dim kindle
Ive been seeing liandry nashors into tank azir
sullen crystal
just checked mine again
eternal palm
sullen crystal
first game playing normal sr after a while and my god I am bad
prisma ravine
PBE has smolder changes
E is losing crit scaling and gaining passive scaling instead
Q burn scales with AP, AD and passive now, but has 0.25% base instead of 6.5%
Which is realistically a big nerf
Overall moving away from crit tho which is nice
prisma ravine
Too much of his base damage is magic
Im thinking its triforce and shojin builds
Maybe some AP
Well this sure is a bit distorted by ARAM
slim terrace
hey mastery is mastery
slim terrace
same
I've been thinking about relearning kat so my skill actually matches my mastery
prisma ravine
Im considering getting her legendary
But the odd thing is that the first dagger in that skin is kinda the best one lmao
night marsh
Holy red kayn healing finally got buffed
And it scales off bonus health now
Let’s fucking goooooooooo
I have another jungler after briar now
timber patio
wheat notch
im ending it
wheat notch
Won against a Challenger player and all I got was a measly 22LP 😔
wheat notch
typical that my best games are also the only ones i lose >.>
anyways;
and my EUNE account
wheat notch
I became a dedicated Xayah main on her release
even bought her bundle
(but I didn't get the gifting icon which I was super depressed about)
A lot of it I was playing Xayah mid though bc I didn't wanna play botlane 😭
dim kindle
where do you get this graphic again
formal quartz
eternal palm
Draven
wheat notch
wow nothing over 250k is wild
dim kindle
yeah i played on different accounts for a while
after season 8 or so
but overall i always played a lot of different stuff and different roles
with a few prefered picks in each role
adcs are so high because thats what i ended up playing with friends
i never enjoyed it solo q much
dim kindle
im unstoppable on this character
also double mana build feels nice
kinda realized 25 haste on items this cheap is actually kinda nuts when u think about them past 1st item slot
i could see it being good on ziggs too
prisma ravine
Nah the Yuumi is fine
night marsh
Meow
night marsh
Tahm was a pretty good@top laner a few seasons ago
It was like almost impossible to 1v1 him which was fun
dim kindle
was tahm ever balanced
night marsh
No lol
dim kindle
He was either unplayable trash or right click on enemy top and win
cant remember any in between
maybe super early on
night marsh
He was either broken in support role or unkillable top lane, or just unplayable in both
His top is a little bit under control@rn but his support is apparently still bonkers
dim kindle
yeah ok that matches my memory
night marsh
I think of recent additions, I really liked Briar and Nilah
night marsh
Oh yeah I agree for sure lol
Once they gave her health scaling on her passive , I already knew she was gonna be crazy still
night marsh
The only thing I don’t understand is why she doesn’t have health regen but I guess it’s to@balance her from@not lanining
I absolutely hate hwei lmao
dim kindle
think its a flavor thing doesnt really seem mandatory for her kit
to work
maybe original intent was to keep out of lane through it
prisma ravine
Briar is good
Nilah I thought was super disappointing
You just have no agency on her
night marsh
I think it’s mostly a champ based thing
She feels ridiculously strong if your support picks towards her
prisma ravine
Yeah thats kinda the problem
She goes from being so weak you have no agency because everyone can bully you
To being so strong you have no agency because she plays herself
night marsh
Feels more so like a champ made for top laners that got autofilled bot lol
prisma ravine
Kinda
I wish theyd just cut her crit chance scaling and let her buy items that allow her to not be bullied early game
night marsh
She unfortunately synergizes too well with navori and collector
Cutting her crit scalings would just gut her beyond repair
Unless you want her to just be a bruiser
prisma ravine
Basically
Bruiser or onhit
Anything that lets her build items she can use to survive lane more easily
Im also a big proponent of deleting Navori anyway 
dim kindle
I absolutely hate hwei lmao
Why
wheat notch
i could see it being good on ziggs too
ziggs doesnt rly need haste r n
which is why i keep begging for the old horizon that was Just 115ap
eternal palm
What’s Ziggs haste cap before you get diminishing returns on the Q uptime?
wheat notch
35 lol
anything beyond that is pointless bc it becomes shorter than ludens cd
unless you play ingenious hunter
then you can stack haste as much as u want bc 5stack ingen is 2sec luden charges
and ziggs q is never reaching 2sec cd
night marsh
Why
Play a non-mid melee champ into that champ from mid to late game
It’s so@infuriating trying to play vs 9 different spells on his short ass cds
Tbh I don’t have an issue with his w or ult. Q and E just have a shit ton of power, especially in how many different tools@he has available at one time
eternal palm
Hwei will be just like invoker fr and reach perma banned status at some point
dim kindle
Yeah his laning phase is really oppressive
Crazy so
I enjoy it cuz its been a while since weve had a truly lane dominant mage
dim kindle
then you are doing something wrong for sure yeah
wheat notch
maybe its bc my bar is ziggs
idk
(ziggs doesnt feel very lane dominant either i keep getting clapped by fucking lux players and it confuses me to no end)
dim kindle
Im not sure how much of it me not getting skillchecked by good players enough but other than a few lb nightmares
he just stomps lanes
Esp against melees like lamb said
wheat notch
i feel like lamb complaining about mid-late melees vs hwei is a bit . overexaggerated
but my brain is cherrypicking the melees that make me want to kill myself
(ksante)
(olaf)
(nocturne)
(any champ that gets rookern)
dim kindle
Like ppl keep picking kass and sylas into me and they get stomped so bad because they dont expect me to just play so aggressive
But yeah in mid game bruisers run you over
but I find it also requires some misplay to put yourself in that spot
but yeah sometimes youll get dicked in side
wheat notch
i hate quickplay
dim kindle
So i try to avoid that now
wheat notch
going to playtest tear because ziggs only has 4 """"good"""" items anyways and i dont think there is a big diff between seraphs and horizon atp
dim kindle
but being smart about making sure u have ur e spells still up when u need etc
high haste
EQ is really oppressive into melees since they buffed it to 1.5 duration
wheat notch
going to playtest tear because ziggs only has 4 """"good"""" items anyways and i...
only gripe i have here is delaying my 3 item spike to 4 items lol
i got cheesed zzz
wheat notch
crypt is not playable on zig
eternal palm
I built crypt on ahri the other day, and that shit felt so broken
wheat notch
seraphs still feels like shit
man
oh i took ult hunter on accident
am i stupid
Every single time I've triggered lifeline this game, I've died.
night marsh
i feel like lamb complaining about mid-late melees vs hwei is a bit . overexagge...
I play Gwen so it’s actually not that difficult to get on to him if my ult clips him but he’s just like asol where they can just decide a specific area they don’t want you to move
I’ve had games now where hwei is a screen away cc’ing me for an eternity while I’m trying to walk up while also dealing with other people
And it’s not like he doesn’t do damage, his shit fucking hurts
What I’m trying to say is delete hwei and never make another artillery mage again, thanks
wheat notch
I’ve had games now where hwei is a screen away cc’ing me for an eternity while I...
the only tool that ccs a screen away is ew and its the easiest counterable ability though
hes gonna have like a 6sec cd on E at best and ew lasts 3 secs so like yeah its 3 sec downtime but also it makes him unbelievably vulnerable
wheat notch
I play Gwen so it’s actually not that difficult to get on to him if my ult clips...
this is also like. the whole gimmick of nearly every control mage and i dont rly think its a problem
i think ori ball is way more oppressive at this
syndra spheres even more tbh
formal quartz
I think the difference here is how big his aoe is
Probably shorter but wider than rumble ult
wheat notch
ew has a smaller aoe than ori ball
formal quartz
Idk what’s ew what’s the one with the giant rectangle
wheat notch
why are you bringing up something completely unrelated
formal quartz
Idk which spell lamb is talking about
I’m just putting in my 2 cents when facing hwei (or when he’s in my team)
wheat notch
~~If you don't know what he's talking about, why chime in 
~~
formal quartz
Cause I too get cc’d from a screen away
And the most annoying one for me is the giant ass rectangle
dim kindle
Think hwei is definitely more oppressive than other mages in certain objective chokeholds but he is also a lot worse without setup than other mages
thats why i think we will really see him rise in priority in pro soon
eternal palm
Anytime I’ve seen Hwei picked in pro, he’s completely dominated the game even in losses
dim kindle
like the minimum thing viktor e.g. will bring to the table no matter what in teamfights than the minimum hwei brings is way better
But if hweis team sets up correctly at an objective first he is really crazy
Hweis real weakness is imo that he has this slight midgame dropoff where his aoe is still good but his single target is not enough to deal with bruisers and tanks (not really an issue in pro, but can be a problem in solo q) and that he is a mediocore sidelaner
wheat notch
hes a fine sidelaner tbh
trundlecore just run away really quickly if someone walks at you
dim kindle
hes ok but id say he is definitely worse than comparable characters
he feels best when you dont need to bother with side waves at all
wheat notch
well yes but thats just what his class is like tbh
anyways this seraphs shit is not working out and i cant tell if its the build being bad or if its me being sick
26 mins for my first kill 🔥
formal quartz
Hope you get well soon
wheat notch
idek if im Truly sick
just had a headache and hot head
but i dont actively feel it if i dont think ab it
formal quartz
Well hopefully it isn’t anything
wheat notch
this isnt working
wheat notch
seraphs 2nd just sets u back so far it's crazy
dim kindle
well its what i build instead of horizon cuz if u compare ludens to horizon something seems off
slim terrace
I think someone managed to dodge at the very last second and break an aram game
it got stuck on reconnecting for like a solid 10 minutes and the game didn't show up in my history
dim kindle
Maybe also server issues
night marsh
i think ori ball is way more oppressive at this
Ori only has 3 abilities, the range is short as fuck, and the ball is a dead giveaway where said abilities will@occur
Like when I play vs Ori, I know to just watch the ball the entire time and once her ult is down, im@good to go
Meanwhile in Hwei land after you get past his spammable rumble ult, you also have to deal with whatever he wants his E to be. Not even going to mention how much of a cluster fuck his abilities are to look at
dim kindle
Its partially because you have more muscle memory
with ori ball
but again i agree hweis area control is a lot stronger
wheat notch
Ori only has 3 abilities, the range is short as fuck, and the ball is a dead giv...
when did 1290range become short vro
the only hwei abilities longer than that are his ult and QW
also ball can b hidden in some walls
nearly most spots that have a tree u just place it behind them
like yeah hwei has a broader zone range which is useful esp in objective control but if u walk thru a choke with ori ball you will actually just die 100/100
~~i also dont really struggle with his abilities theyre all pretty recognisable ~~
formal quartz
wow that just seems liek riot didn't bother fixing collision when updating the map
chilly ivy
You mean ori ball not being visible or that the ori ball is in the wall?
Cause the latter was always possible
slim terrace
~~i also dont really struggle with his abilities theyre all pretty recognisable ...
yeah idk a few people have said this and they seem really obvious to me
wheat notch
Why the fuck is Profane's AoE so big
btw
just absolutely no reason for it to be that large
i die here from a khazix procing hydra fro mhtere
exaggerated a bit bc i dont remember
but it was way too far
apparently kassadin ult doesnt have a cooldown late game
thats cool
i thought id have counterplay
why not man
wheat notch
Oh they're fully committed to making Seraphine a support, fuck this champ I guess
slim terrace
didn't people ask for this at the start too and riot was like "nah bro she's a mid laner trust me"
wheat notch
didn't people ask for this at the start too and riot was like "nah bro she's a m...
I mean they were right
she felt really good as a midlaner and really shit as a support
better botlane as an APC though because your passive got exponentially better down there
wheat notch
I mean the passive says "i wanna lane with ppl"
the passive more says "i really like teamfightijg"
chilly ivy
True
slim terrace
is something going on with lck studio lately? I feel like they're getting a lot of tech problems lately, the big one obv being that 6 hour pause
dim kindle
Well the way I understand this is that they are just caving to the playerbase who with a decent majority play her support even when shes been 47% in support and 54% in bot
wheat notch
yeah but theyre balancing around the pisslows agane
90% of half-decent mains play her in a carry role
There's 60 Master+ Seraphine players on onetricks.gg rn
Only 3 main her support.
dim kindle
Yeah
I think its kinda crappy
also has implications for other champs
like with how many ppl play swain support even though its giga ass
wheat notch
It's especially weird when you look at like Ziggs
who is overwhelmingly played botlane
and then they dished out a 'mid-centric' buff for him
which, after all the changes since, has actually made his winrate in mid worse
dim kindle
Imo support should be mostly disregarded because ppl just play everything support
its not a good idea to follow them
wheat notch
People really just see Seraphine W and E and go 'this must be a support' it's so lame
dim kindle
i think its a little bit riots fault
wheat notch
I'd say "Galio moment" but that fucker got played support and farmed nerfs for it so it's not quite the same
dim kindle
because like they made music girl with aoe abilities and expected players to not compare her to sona
and she is different from sona but on the surface you know
dim kindle
not in terms of gameplay
wheat notch
lemme check my reaction on sera reveal 1sec
dim kindle
but like yes i think its understandable a broader playerbase is gonna associate these themes with support when sona exists
wheat notch
ah.
to be fair
E did reduced damage against creeps or something and it really pissed me off LOL
like why did it even do that at first
dim kindle
Selfish part of me is like ok with it because farming sera is actually like really broken
amd i dont play her
night marsh
the only hwei abilities longer than that are his ult and QW
Hwei can walk away after casting said ability and isn’t dependent on the origin of the ball
All those wall set ups are literally set ups
Hwei doesn’t need to do that lol
But it’s not that serious, that champ+illaoi stay permabanned in my games
night marsh
sorry about that, I'm showing my interns how to ddos someone rn
wheat notch
level 1??
chilly ivy
Yeah It's an adc that hit you for 8 autos
chilly ivy
8 and a spell sounds like it was an extended engagement with a dps oriented champ
wheat notch
iot was
chilly ivy
Idk how's that an issue
wheat notch
2 short trrades
chilly ivy
Again, if jhin autos you for 4 in a single exchange, that is not a short trade
And he is designed to win that, he fired the 4th
chilly ivy
If jhin hits the 4th, you lose the trade
Idk why ur sitting near him after the 3rd or even the 2nd auto
Throw a q and fuck off
chilly ivy
You outrange him, or simply don't fight him
If he can come near you while you don't wanna, you're either out of position or your support is complete ass
wheat notch
ur telling me to ff however many waves itll tell me to get lc
im not an artillery until i get lc
its jhin mid
chilly ivy
He has to go through the wave to auto you
Just q and fuck off
He should be taking more damage
chilly ivy
Minions
wheat notch
not enough
chilly ivy
Like, if it's hard for me to say without watching a vod, but i really don't see how you die to this
Or not outtrade
wheat notch
first trade was me autoing thrice
bc of first strike proc
lose half hp
just off autos
chilly ivy
Idk how to tell you this but if a mage autos into an adc and they auto back, you kinda lose
Unless ur ori but even then
wheat notch
i shouldnt get halved if they dont even have a live keystone bro
at level 1!!
like oh i get if tristana does it because she takes fucking hail of blades
or lucian pta
but dh????
it doesnt matter anyways my botlane didnt have hands again
literally 3 seconds
and then i die in 3 more autos
like if i back up from the 3 more autos i just miss xp at that point and its equally doomed idk man
he just flash autos me after i pop 2 pots
formal quartz
Do you not know what jhin’s 4th auto does?
This is like saying annie out trades you at 4 stacks
also mid adc is going to mid adc I guess
wheat notch
Do you not know what jhin’s 4th auto does?
wow it's a guaranteed crit that does missing health dmg and gives a speed boost I shouldn't get fucking halved lv1 from full over 3 secpmds 
formal quartz
adc bullying mid mages 
wheat notch
it's w.e. even if i had won lane my adc ended up doing less dmg than my support
so
im not too hung up about it
formal quartz
looks like your eve was having a grand time too
eternal palm
eve into kindred
wheat notch
They went like 1/4/4 yeah
eternal palm
i might have dodged right there
wheat notch
I wasn't looking much
dim kindle
fuck syndra
yes I would
sullen crystal
yeah it looks sick too
prisma ravine
Never >:)
slim terrace
I need to serve cunt on the rift
sinful frost
timber patio
Twitter
timber patio
Okay I see you Perkz
eternal palm
Colgate?
dim kindle
I had asol in aram legit got 200 stacks and a penta at 6 minutes lol
But still lost
dapper kite
Yuumi
sullen crystal
Yuumi
slim terrace
Yuumi
eternal palm
Yuumi
prisma ravine
Gonna go against the grain and say Lee Sin
formal quartz
Lee Sin
Yee Min
Yuu Mi
chilly ivy
i will use this time however
to shill dawngate again
cause they had a yuumi and made her properly
and she was both fun to play vs her and as her
(after they fixed some numbers she had cause initially her numbers were bonkers)
night marsh
yuumi
remote swan
im at work
night marsh
quit
timber patio
<@173164441620185088> <@262101290799202307> flex?
I'm playing salad lil bro
wheat notch
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/s/aliybeRyk1
aphelios
dapper kite
Twitter
dim kindle
weird that i only needed 16 games
i got diamond last year and then didnt play anymore so i demoted and then i didnt play the 2nd split
did i not get any mmr cut at all the entire time
seems weird
night marsh
Duo 🤤
dim kindle
down to flex for sure but feel like duo always does really dumb shit with matchmaking
wheat notch
Well then.
slim terrace
well then
dim kindle
its just kinda lame to play against
wheat notch
that is not tryndamere bro
slim terrace
this looks like a mobile game ad
wheat notch
zzzz
wheat notch
fucking hate it when this aatrox ints my game and then i play against him anbd he carries
so lame
dim kindle
I always feel like lethality items aatrox has to be troll when sundered sky eclipse bc etc are such good items
but when he gets fed it makes him actually just nuke the world so
sullen crystal
oo
prisma ravine
This is the first skin where I feel confident saying its better than Mecha Kha
Goddamn
sullen crystal
that is a great skin
I always think the evos in some skins can ruin them but
they look great even on this one
prisma ravine
Yeah
The R evo in particular is just nice
Thats usually the one Im worried about but no that magenta is 👌
Im debating if I like the chroma better than base or not
... probably not?
wheat notch
crying high noon yone dance is so funny
night marsh
Ok this is all hypotheticals, if they made a champ with the trade off of having no minimap (you also have increased fog of war so you can’t f key to view other lanes), how strong would that champ@have to be for you to consider playing it
In a debate with a friend rn
chilly ivy
it should be strong enough to 1v1 and be adaptable to situations easily, so pretty strong imo
it's hard to put weakness on that champ tho
cause if you make it strong through out it's just a strong early laner that becomes a split pusher exclusively later
and if you don't make it strong it's unplayable novelty item that will drop to unplayed levels immediately after
tl;dr you either break the game or it's unplayable
wheat notch
i mean i think champ would be borken
its not like pings disappear lol
long range pings have an on screen indicator now to show you whos pinging
chilly ivy
i will add that there is a somewhat similar thing on malganis in hots
wheat notch
and your whole team gets more vision because of your own vision?
busted
slap onto a support and win game
chilly ivy
you have a talent that makes you blind for a time and you have 0 cd or mana costs
but he loses all vision
only thing you can see if you hit ur third q cause the cd dropped
formal quartz
If it was solo que playable it would be perma banned in pro forever
As for how strong you need to be idk
dim kindle
for mal ganis it sorta works cuz the guy is basically just perma spamming an abilify that hits around him
wheat notch
chat am i just stupid
i keep seeing the LS Kai'sa video in my feed and getting annoyed by him calling it exodia because i associate exodia with a godly opener so a league equivalent would be a team comp but its about kaisa build being insane at 3 items
wheat notch
I think he's an anime guy. His dog is called Kuriboh instead of smthg wacko like Farfa naming his caat Tantan
I know he's played Magic and now apparently plays the Cookie Run TCG or smthg.
dapper kite
p sure he also played hearthstone
wheat notch
Oh yeah
I remember him using those goblin-like guys as a comparison for aggro in coaching videos or smthg
Their name escapes me
dapper kite
i only remeber him using zoo as a comparison for smth
wheat notch
MURLOCS
chilly ivy
how do you even compare fish ppl to goblins
wheat notch
Because I didn't remember them properly
I just remember green + aggro
makes me think of goblin
prisma ravine
Ok this is all hypotheticals, if they made a champ with the trade off of having ...
Voice chat makes that idea break
prisma ravine
i keep seeing the LS Kai'sa video in my feed and getting annoyed by him calling ...
What 3 items?
wheat notch
What 3 items?
prisma ravine
Do not let him cook
wheat notch
mad bc you didnt come up w it first i see
slim terrace
and here I thought he liked hybrid kaisa smh
dim kindle
no joke i think most of the time standard ass kraken rage terminus kaisa will just do so much better than these hybrid builds
unless you really need magic damage
prisma ravine
mad bc you didnt come up w it first i see
Its an old build
prisma ravine
and here I thought he liked hybrid kaisa smh
I do, but the version with e evo and nashors is simply better lmao
dim kindle
i enjoy playing asol and i also really hate it at the same time
dim kindle
I just hate how like even when ur strong bruisers all just run u over because they nerfed his dps so much
So like ur entire playstyle is afk and then fly into a teamfight to e r
and pick off stragglers becaise for some reason his W resets
wheat notch
I think it's really crazy they just gave up on making him juke
and just made him old Xerath
Like they could've just made him a new flavour of Taliyah
but killing his whole identity is just cooler I suppose
dim kindle
Yeah like he litteraly has to facetank everything but doesnt have the base stats to do so
so he just chills and flies in to combo E R and then last hits stragglers
unless u are crazy ahead
kinda misses his identity imo
like its fun to play sometimes
but it feels more than awkward
night marsh
@wheat notch is there a ziggs bug where it makes the tower untargetable?
prisma ravine
Playing vs Cass with a mouse that only lets rightclick work 50% of the time is awful
slim terrace
playing against anyone with that kind of mouse sounds awful wtf
prisma ravine
Yeah it doesnt usually dothat
And I can adjust by spamclicking
But it makes dodging Cass ult way more painful
Also Akali sure does damage
wheat notch
<@265960037552357376> is there a ziggs bug where it makes the tower untargetable...
haven't had it
timber patio
does anyone on this planet want sivir to be viable
Me I love sivir
prisma ravine
You only have 5 placement matches now?
night marsh
Yeah
night marsh
I hate this game
please delete karma
no champ should be throwing aoe nidalee spears
slim terrace
has she just not been touched this whole time
oh wow yeah just not nerfed for a whole month huh
night marsh
That landing phase was just miserable
Constantly throwing out qs with no man’s issue
Get punished for walking up because of e
wheat notch
what the fuck is wrong with this game
5 cs up same plates 4 kills 3 assists 1 death down but im the one w a shutdown???
shes
8/0
no shutdown
👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
she just got one
150g
XD!
wheat notch
i should surely get punished for my team doing well as the literal worst performer
night marsh
a riot member really needs to play top
laning vs illaoi has to be a top 5 worst experience in this ga,e
champ juste xists to be as insufferablke as possible
dim kindle
I think some aspects of illaoi are super cool
its just the e mini game is a bit too important
night marsh
What aspects 
Even if you’re not playing dodge the e, you still can lose fights if she gets a lucky spawn or is down a lot of gold
I lost 1v1 early to and mid to her and I didn’t get hit with any outside tentacles besides the one she spawned with ult
wheat notch
bring me back dude
on release runes reforged made sorcery tree feel so good
they just ain't make them like this anymore
dapper kite
rember when point and click didnt draw minion aggro?
wheat notch
i do...
slim terrace
yeah I remember https://youtu.be/oM8UHxR46uY?si=VpnI1cBsmoE5E6hX
slim terrace
o yeah faker is actually challenger this season. does he usually make it then decay or is this a first in a while?
dim kindle
its usually that solo q is very shitty for him to play because of how much he gets target griefed
but i am not sure how much he actually plays it
probably some secret accounts
slim terrace
I was wondering if the name system changing helped at all
formal quartz
Yeah after the change I get faker in my game every week
night marsh
@remote swan or @timber patio either of yall trying to be our 5th for flex?
remote swan
not rn
timber patio
not rn
night marsh
cucks
dim kindle
its crazy how much more aids typing is in diamond
ppl talking so much nonsense
was unironically way less bad in emerald
the good but not good enough crowd bunch of tilters
slim terrace
damn calling your content useless smh
wheat notch
True...
severe cairn
should I get hwei?
wheat notch
<@265960037552357376> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=849JxKDL8vg
they already fixed this bro
severe cairn
if he's broken I'll play him
dim kindle
Id say in regular solo q he is good but not broken
severe cairn
well, that's all I'll need
dim kindle
like for the first few games you play him youll just be way less effective than on a simpler control mage
but as you get nbetter it opens up more
most important thing is just play lane really dominant
thats what makes him stand out
wheat notch
losing my mind at this guy
sullen crystal
bro is zipping and zooming
wheat notch
It's just like what drives a guy to play a keystone that has absolutely no synergy with your champion 😭😭 for 6 years
wheat notch
Yeah but he's shilling it to other people and then it goes from enjoying to giving people bad advice
prisma ravine
Whats PR again?
wheat notch
Whats PR again?
phase rush
prisma ravine
Oh
dim kindle
Phase rush on mages needs to be instant proc or its bad
and even then since the nerf
its kinda just been bad
i think on ori its pretty okay
and ryze of course
idt phase on artillery makes much sense
wheat notch
idt phase on artillery makes much sense
I think I tried it a few times into assassins after Aftershock got re-statted but Ziggs kit is just too clunky
Even Hwei could do it because EQ QQ is instant but Ziggs abilities have such awful delays
dim kindle
Yeah
also on ziggs there us a decent chance u hust waste a lot of phase rush uptime flying with w
dim kindle
@night marsh u wanna play more
night marsh
<@121831661284360192> u wanna play more
At locals rn
dim kindle
slay
dim kindle
anyone else find it crazy riot still hasnt replaced a lot of those shitty chinese splash arts from when they merged all the art
dim kindle
wholesome
wheat notch
vayne building like an assassin
feels not very fai r
ultimate tank buster except each q auto is 1k so it deletes squishies too
dim kindle
think for the most part that build is just way worse than her on hit build
but I mean in this case u guys are pretty squishy so its aight
thats legit the entire build there is just q damage
if there was a tank shed struggle
dim kindle
in aram i legit lose every game i penta lmfao
i just got 2 pentas and lost as well
its like a curse
wheat notch
3 pentas or bust
slim terrace
in aram i legit lose every game i penta lmfao
same, idk if I just get cocky and throw or what causes that
dim kindle
yeah tbf it is that cuz i just did a lot of really dumb 1v3 attempts in this game e.g.
wheat notch
3rd penta wouldve saved u