#League of Legends
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there is no way
imagine i 4fun build and still outdamage this graves who flamed me whole game
first game I play with hwei in it in quickplay and the enemy team has an exhaust ignite vayne support
I feel sorry for the hweis in that game cause they ff'd at 10 minutes
great glitch 
bot & jung surrendered because they fed 3 kills to vlad once
maybe this isn't the time to play league rn 
You get the fun players at 3 am
awesome I have to play against yone top
this character is so fun and not broken at all
kinda funny that i outdamaged the other Hwei while building nearly all-util
Finally
perma arena poggers
looking forward to new powers
riot put me in the game with a challenger jax for some reason, shame this was a remake
I don't think it's permanent yet is it
they both have the same name
the diff is my mains tag is 51pct and my alt is 49pct
ic
4 honors pog
I only ever see you win wintry...
then dont check my match history
Even when you’re losing, you’re a winner
do we think kiin is a power top or what
lmfoa
not me about to play arena with my friends and then immediately being able to not play it
thank god they don't have a server to test this stuff
I never open loot anyways 
poggers I got 2 games of arena in before they fucking disabled it again
https://twitter.com/RiotAugust/status/1732913847391158673 I feel like they just should've waited but if I get hwei I'm about to abuse this twink like no tomorrow
his Q cost is steep but WE really helped mitigate that imo, idk
Idk why they hotfix buff new champs so often. Just wait for players to actually learn the champ first lol
yeah I can't help but feel like he's gonna go crazy now
they want people playing the new release
if no one plays him, no one will develop strats for him
everyones already playing him
allegedly he has an unusually low playrate
well thats cringe because ive only gotten to play him like twice in quickplay
yeah idk why his playrate is so low, maybe people are just scared cause he has 10 spells?
13%~ pickrate doenst seem low to me?
I think some people were saying that's lower for a new champion but idk these things
i mean probably
but hes not like
a popular design i think
his kit i mean
immobile mage that dies if touched
i really wanna main him but i'm taking a break atm
im planning on adding him to my champ pool
but my alt doesnt own him and i barely get him in quickplays
Just need another 250-300lp and I'm GM...
"challenger players are something else" she says, close to a tier under challenger
wait grandmaster is still under challenger right, I'm never reaching that tier 
same but we really do gotta wait for the new champ hype to die down
chall is like 1k lp bro i will not hit thay
high hopes for gm though
aren't some pros in GM
faker is in grandmaster 
faker also gets target inted lol
so what you're saying is you need some rock lee style dead weights to transcend to faker's form?
yah
isn't there some story rhat he only started playing ranked bc his normals mmr was too high
yeah
unrelated but I'm really looking forward to gen g this year
kiin/canyon/chovy/peyz/lehends is a lot of raw talent on one team
ah, the traditional hotfix buff to a newly released champ is here before anyone has learned how to play them, surely it will work out well like th elast 6 times
Funny how Briar has been nerfed every patch since release
the heartsteel quest is a lil brazy
Arena is back up just and i am away for the weekend :(
the funny part is ppl who played naafiri actually would like her more if she was a fighter rather than assassins. feels like riot just got the roles mixed up xD
at least, this is what i hear
naafiri does sound more fun if she was meant to have prolonged fights with her little doggos, rather than get in get out
yeah briar and naafiri feel like they have their roles inversed
I think Hwei prob needed a small damage buff but from playing him I feel like he is extremely good
the QQ buff looks like an overshoot imo
2% more max health is a lot
I only played with and against an hwei in arena so i cant really judge him
I see
yone top is soooo fun to play against
Agreed
I am slowly learning how to play aatrox because for some reason every time I play him i int
First game of Arena: Man they didnt fix ADCs being broken have they
considering that it took me like 5 seconds to remember what ew even does it again
you are probably right
i never seem to find a reason to use it xd
the way I saw it used in the spotlight was in a chokepoint in the jungle, which seemed okay
yeah in theory for sure
I feel like it might get a buff in the future though
in practice that means you dont get to ee qw those people in the choke instead
Itll get a buff for sure
Even using it in chokepoints is just kinda mid
W also feels a bit odd
All 3 modes felt kinda low-impact?
the W spells are fine imo
I'm fine with W yeah
they cant really be much better because otherwise he does everything better
I've used all of them in different contexts, but mostly the mana restore
that one makes for easy passive procs
w e is a very core part of his play pattern yh
i guess maybe wq ms could be a bit more impressive
but again I think they need to be very careful with his utility or he just ends up as a really strong support
The mana restore is huge yeah
The other 2 are just kinda mid
Which feels odd
QW looks good but I rarely ended up using it in arena
i really dont think the shield is allowed to be much better
But I suspect its way better in solo q
qw is the best pretty much in rift yes
q e is for wave clear qq is for quick trades and q w is for his burst set ups
I'm fine with it being mid, lux shield feels pretty mid to me too
lux shield was so broken for a while
W W specifically kinda has to stay weak
id say
I fuckin hated the speed change they did
they said they did it to make it feel more intuitive but it's the opposite
its really strong waveclear too
yeah I've been using it to shove in champs like lb really easy and safe
it looks ok for zoning but it's definitely the weakest spell in kit
like when ziggs uses minefield to block off chokes for baron
even though hwei ew doesn't last. 10 seconds
ww looks like ass to me but the rest of the kit is ight
Is that supposed to be taliyah and yasuo?
ye
Are they both gender swapped
they considered making taliyah canonically trans but didn't go through with it last second. there's some interactions in game which still hint towards it tho
so this comic is just her pre-transition
its not canon but also star guardian taliyah was laced with hints iirc
at least in the little visual novel they did
its just another one of those things riot chose not to go through with for "reasons"
like Ezko ;-;
yea I always got that vibe from taliyah but didnt know it was "intentional"
Knowing riot they'll retroactively make draven trans instead of just having the guts to make a new character that is trans and has a background story to reflect it
i think if you do that the draven players start committing hate crimes'
queerphobe money goes hard
i guess
it's bc of various governments i think and they dont wanna lose a market
yeah they always leave it not super obvious
like ksante
he's gay but its only lightly implied
so that its easy to censor in other countries ig
He's gay but in Russia his ex is just a really good friend
idk how I'm meant to play him arena maybe im bad
I mean he is a touch weak in arena
You mostly just want to QE to zone enemies away or wombo them with a teammate
maybe I'm underutilising qe bc it's ingrained in my brain as a waveclear spell and then i saw another guy spamming it and doing well
and ew
but i dont wanna use ew it's awful
Only use it at the start of the fight sometimes
why can u outrun the root
EE and EQ are way better
lmfao
unless that's a bug
like if u leave the circle after it locks on it doesnt root
Wanna play some Arena?
on a Saturday?
Ok warning for those who want to play Arena
Dont buy Thieves Gloves
Its worthless
Err, select
Got an S-rank chest on Hwei already 
runes
First Strike with PoM and coup de grace secondary
Could also do sorcery secondary tho tbh
Aaand Im back to lacking keys for chests smh
only 28 keys?
Ive not played enough league lately for keys
love when my toplaner feeds so much we literally can't 1v5 their sett
fml
also shen seems to be insane in arena
he's Good
elite500 made a hwei guide pogue
I got to try him
Maybe I’ll try him today
I saw him demolish a fizz in lane in masters the other day
eah
I like how they were too stupid to understand your first question
What’s with all these pros playing off role
When the hell did inspired move from jungle to mid wtf
Also who the hell at flyquest approved that
holy
idk but hes good
beat my ass
just had a normal where our aph died 3 times, told our support to die and then started running it down
in a normal lmfao
Therefore you are?
average hwei player
hey
the hwei outdamaged everyone on his team except for the full damage support orianna
🙂
see this is the kind of comp I expect out of quickplay
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rekkles and gbm on t1 challengers was not on my bingo sheet
I knew he was moving to support but must've missed that
support move was a while ago but didnt work out great for him, T1 is trying to capitalize on their western fanbase with this I feel
their infrastructure is so strong they can definitely pull something like this off
they know where rekkles goes, the viewers go
lcs academy could've tried the same thing if he didn't want to be competitive lol
I really like that it's called Forgotten Runes and then they post 4 of the most memorable runes
Like the only name of these I couldn't remember on the spot is the ultimate-related one
wait no I'm wrong It's Literally called The Ultimate Hat
he probably meant forgotten by Riot
I don't think Courage of the Colossus is very forgotten by Riot when it's now an augment in Arena...
and Klepto can go fuck itself
and isn't Conqueror basically just a better Fervor 
wait that's not fervor
sorry . fleet footwork
yeah it's still in the game...
5 to 40
klepto was fun, i thought you would relate as a part time swain player
don't forget kayle too
I hated laning against klepto kayles
Cancerous on illaoi too
This was an ARAM game
lose top
jungler complains my toplaner is fed when they never came top once
Fed bot/mid > fed top, sounds like they didn’t help other lanes either
yeah they didn't really
hwei teamfighting dmg is
so nuts
he's so far behind me
and still does so much dmg
wild
u have to position like an insane person though bc he's so fucking fragile LMFAO
Part of me feels like not going seraphs on him is wrong, especially considering how fragile he is
seraph's shield is not saving u
bc you dont buy any other dedicated health like ryze does with roa
burst champs will still overkill u
same issue on ziggs xerath
Well I was going to also say, why aren’t we running roa on him also
oh because he needs haste
really bad
like Elite500's buying Horizon 2nd (even though damage-wise, it's really mediocre when bought 2nd) just because of the haste
Hmm I got to see the new AP items post item rework then, because then I feel like pre item rework he might not be viable outside of an actual organized team setting
I think he works
but I also am not gonna queue him at 450 lp lmfao
I've been trying to farm up blue essence on my alt though
but like
this is elite500s last game
ionians for haste. liandry for haste. horizon for haste. drive last for haste
- transcendence
he prefers atk speed over 8ah in minors because of WE auto trades but I think 8AH is really good too
Ionians makes sense yeah, you basically build him similar to mid seraphine (besides horizon)
should note that he prefers sorcs over ionians
it's more of a "the enemy team is bulky and you need to spam more spells to melt their health"
midaphine buys horizon it's just way later
also he’s going to lose around 20-25 haste post item rework no?
yea
which is rough
I'm planning like
i mean it's also he loses haste but he gets >stormsurge
which is lol
He might just flat out get a damage or range buff to some of his spells if it’s that bad
I'm planning on just doing the Ziggs builds on Hwei in S14
The thresholds might differ a bit but I think it should be fine?
The only difference is whether or not I fit in Horizon Focus somewhere

I mean tbh, Liandry’s only spent the majority of the season being the best AP mythic
Everything else besides protobelt was situational
Protobelt just had a bigger niche audience
shoutout to like
Endstep talking about how they didn't want void and liandry to be mustbuys that also just delete tanks from the game
and then they end up being optimal into squishies anyways
Its funny to me that Protobelt is going back to being ass

idk what any of the new items do
Protobelt being back to being ass is correct. The dash is what makes these items OP. Like when galeforce was built with 0 drawback and they had to nerf it to compensate
Eh AP items are good, Riftmaker just sucks
nashors was cracked but then they added 200g to the item ;_;
luden's is better single-target now
Riftmaker being ass is also correct as it also has its niche audience
demonic is ass
thank fuck theyre removing demonic
The devs said making assassins being able to kill people again was a priority
No and ... yes I think?
Which thank fucking god
DD is in
Not sure Id include Talon
rengar
And talon needed to snowball the game to have a chance
Rengar doesnt really use assassin itemisation much tbh
Its an assassin mythic and then just
adc items
I mean so is akali technically, but i wouldn’t classify her as an assassin compared to her other stable mates
Im guessing theyll need to increase the duration of the buff
Still insane tho
Wait how does malignance work with rumble ult hitting multiple people?
malignance and stormsurge seem absurd unless im missing something
Oh and Cyclosword looks bad still
Depends on the champ but yeah
I don’t see how malignance isn’t an auto build on rumble
It literally says “you can’t contest this objective that we have prio on”
the only issue I see with malignance besides the low damage is that it applies the magic shred after you casted your ult
that radius is a lot smaller than I thought it would be
so like teemo would be the same size?
compared to like fizz I guess
pekin did a video on it
Sigh, this patch can’t come soon enough
Here's some old items that got big updates btw
What really fucks me up though is that they made Mandate do insane damage
lost chapter item omegalul
(its probably fine)
I remember the rift changes and thought it was pretty middling, losing your sustain on waves is so ass as a trade off
cosmic got a glow up though
rift getting demonic passive is p cute i think
I mean I like that but it's jsut so ass that you can't heal off minions
cause leeching leer was the thing you crutched on vs losing lanes as gwen
They dont like omnivamp
Only champs with built in healing (... and adcs) are supposed to heal
Oh and BotRK users
I don't have an issue with that but some of this healing is still absurd lol
and botrk needs to get deleted
I know they nerfed it this preseason but holy fuck some champs are gonna be balanced around that item still
irelia has no identity outside botrk
she's only good based on how playable that item is
as for the healing thing, they had a good idea in mind for the midseasonc hanges with the durability patch
but they didnt go hard enough and backtracked on some of them
For some ability haste nobody asked for too lmao
had to make late game gwen even stronger sigh
Wouldn't you just go cosmic btw if hwei really needs the haste? @wheat notch
Or is that item poop on him early?
idk I don't have games on him
but it's very rough trying to balance item damage and haste
bc if u end up with too much ur gonna have as much damage as new midaphine, which is, like 15k
Hwei has huge potential but it currently seems that even accounting for the high mastery curve his lane is just a bit too fragile
at least for high elo
his kit helps him just be an afk farmer
like how u get lost chapter on some mages and u just ignore ur opponent cause u can infinitely farm ykno
take cookies never die
when is preseason going live again
we love a little arena augment
lowkey was kind of the mvp here
shen wasnt even really using the godgiven gift of apex inventor correctly smh
im kind of annoyed with how popular swain is in arena 
simply ban him
No like in the sense i like playing swain a lot and dont want to mirror
absolutely fair
I havent played a mirror match since like 2013 or w/e and facing the same champ im playing felt super wrong
same thing when I ran some quickplay
recently
like I know its technically not a big deal but in my play experience for the past 10 years mirroring hasnt been real lol
Just something i need to get over
Mirror matches are fundamentally awkward because you both have the same ranges of strength and weakness
In arena tbf with the augments the same champ can become pretty different
Yeah one rolls the better augments than the other
graphic desing is my pasion
aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAA
puki #puki
played zed for the first time in a long while and while I had some blunders I was pretty content with my micro 
think im slowly getting used to the scuffed setup im on
the teemo meme expands
j4 ult is a circle of minions vayne tumbles through exe
Nocturne q was coded as a minion with an arbitrarily high health that died at the end so enemy trundle would full heal everytime you casted it
AGAIN?
she's being put through the hyperbolic time chamber
seems balanced
AT LEAST PUT ME ON HIS TEAM MAN
IT'S SO CRINGE
-25 TOO
SORRY FOR LOSING TO SOMEONE IN THE LEC AND SOMEONE BEING DOUBLE MY LP
:D
Mythicless Twitch
another shop, another Lack Of Major Ziggs
thats what u get for making that pun
Wrong order of operations
I saw mine earlier today
Cause unlike the completely balanced and fair champs i play (tanks) ziggs actually hets a buff there iirc
just got told (as alistar)
to do some damage
blud i do not think you understand my role here
hey, you got what you wanted with a pro on your team 
perhaps the worst player i ever had the displeasure of playing arena with
thats a fake
he didnt have a tag + not registered on lolpros
new naming system
@dapper kite you up for Arena?
i am curently in a lobby of summoners rift
Damn
somehow didn't see these comments but hes ight
his slow goes from 10-50% to 30-70
q base dmg up
idr if there's more
yea he needed it lol
Yeah
I played a round with hin and it woulda gone well if i had hands
I like just spamming minefields everwhere tho
sounds like I'll need to show u the wintry live demo soon
Im dogshit at pyke and even worse at arena pyke, sadly
I can give you the best sion this side of gold 4 tho
lmao
25 percent more ap ratio doesnt make up for the fact that you dont have minions tho
Ap sion is ruined!
Anyone wanna play Arena?
sure
why yes, i would like to win as taric
I mean yeha, because you mostly did damage with the ring lmao
average stall enjoyer
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/s/RTUs7E0xVL this thread lmao
||just reading the title you'd think it's sona||
||spoiler that to keep the surprise||
may have just had the game of all time on veigar in arena
3 shield per 1 AP augment, witchcap, magic missile and jeweled gauntlet
Jesus christ
also helped that there wasn't really any tanks in the game
closest might have been a swain
yahoo
ILOVELOLLYPOPPINGILOVELOLLYPOPPINGILOVELOLLYPOPPING
sylas e actually
Killed 3 times before 10 minutes via a mage? Yeah I would have afk’d
my kills were so clean too
fuck i wish i recorded them
watch and learn @chilly ivy 
unless you werent interested in hwei
i forgor 💀
cute
i'm interested in him but after playing him once he feels so unwieldy
i have to just play him
i'm taking a break from league anyway, besides when my friends beg for a fifth for flex
he takes time but he's realllyyy fun
learning isn't fun 
wrong
I will be getting back into things post preseason patch
Hwei is fun yeah
Sunstrike is such a fun ability
Also Im thinking they overbuffed him
definitely not
You think?
therefore i am
Are you though?
it'd be a very collective hallucination because you were seen by ~60 ppl
A top who isnt that good at ygo?
ms. wintry I think you have an addiction
ridiculous
my streamer is just extremely offline

YEah because he doesnt have an addiction
shush you
Time to go out and play yugioh
Kid named 0 locals:
wtf
mid game league just kicked me out of arena and now i can't reconnect?
this is the second time this has happened now
??? it won't let me back in lol
Did the last match appear in your match history?
yeah when I reconnected our team got 2nd and the game was over
Ah, ok
but it just disconnected mid fight
If it just didnt let you reconnect at all and the match never appeared that would be a dropped game
and this is the second time this has happened now so idk what's going on
like I reconnect, it gets to 100% then just closes the client
yep
man a fed nasus is so disgusting
With how often I get botlane in Normals you'd think the entire bot playerbase had extinguished
what gives
it's far enough from worlds that people don't think they're ruler anymore
have i expressed my love for 3d elevation btw
i just got hit by a jhin w that wasnt on me at all :D
at least the rest of my team has scaled enough to win fights without me after eve picks me off
with this death count you'd think it'd be a gold game
fuck me
100 kills at 35 mins
crying
trying to find the rune backgrounds like this one
didnt like it beign low res. check the data dragon
they dont have it
what the fuck do I DO
why is unflinching in the sorcery folder lmfao
the fuck just happened
i queued a game
hits 0 seconds in draft
boots me to main menu?? not even the party??
i didnt lose lp either
is riot ok
hwei is actually so fun to play
just gotta get the fat fingering spells out from spamming too much out lol
that's my biggest hurdle too ye
and like doing it too fast (like fighting game inputs) doesnt work
Non zero chance people will make macros
mine is when it does smthg u didnt ask it to
if you do qw we it sometimes just doesn't cast we even though it changes your stance for a splitsecond
I've also had multiple times where I cast like ee and it throws out ew instead (i was not pressing down w)
so what you're saying is this champ is terrible for high ping
I'm convinced I'm just cursed with hwei, every lobby with him has been like this fml
3.33 magic pen pog
i feel like everytime you post a post game lobby i see marvin
nice
I don't like Sera anymore
Karma just feels way better in mid
(which is what I picked game 2)
I haven't played her since the change, is her damage much worse
yeah
its really bad
as for swain i just have
atrophied my skills on him
(but i did play him in a scrim once)
from a week ago
it was a terrible pick though i should've picked karma here
like if i played swain more he'd be in my pool but rn its really just ziggs and karma, (and im trying to get better at hwei)
are these scrims for minor/college teams?
nah it's our replacement for clash
bceause riot keeps hosting them less and less
so the team synergy is getting worse LOL
ic
so we just started scrimming so we'd develop synergy and whatnot
it's fun
much more fun than ranked
or games w friends
ye sounds fun
I can post today's scrims in here once it's uploaded if you'd like
:)
actually I can't do that I said a slur on accident
@formal quartz if you had to deal with your neighbours constantly banging on your fucking door extremely loudly while trying to comm you'd probably lose your cool too

They're allowed to make as much noise as they please into however late into they night they please but god forbid I play games with friends for a few hours in the evening
oomfie...
Why they banging on your door?
pewdiepie moment,,,
oh not that kind of slur
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
AHHHH BLESS COMMUNITY RESOURCES
OF COUSRE THEY HAD IT
I LOVE THESE GUYS
pog
now i can make truly terrible rune posts
eyah
oh these look lovely
yeah i was gonna make rune pics for zigmund and i thought these would make great backdrops
bc the way i used to do it b4 is kinda lame
I can’t wait for the preseason patch man
It’s time to go hard next season
I got to do it for EU
Anytime I play over 250 ranked games in a season, EU does well at worlds
surely correlated
the greatest dps known to man
🔔

victorious arena skin when tbh
Very based build
I'm just netdecking the guy that stomped me
spirit visage would've done me good smoge
'quick'play
Try not being high elo
^be a low elo shitter like i was
roa feels lowkey kinda nice
bruh what is this thumbnail lmao
It was 5:27am honey
thats not important
also ive found a new hwei build that feels kinda nice
roa drive 🔥
i already said this
maybe i should sleep
💀
god dunkmaster is such a bad skin for ivern
he doesnt even dunk
hes pretty busted in arena though
Remember when Komi used to duo with me 😭
yeah you stopped inviting me 
I need to play urgot
hes very fun
You don’t want to play with him, man runs it down and makes me carry him
i got draw your sword
this champ rocks actually
opponent yorik got minonmancer omg
that sounds horrible to play against
man this is so weird
shaco sucks to play against in arena
but this player is like
unable to do anything meaningful on my team
nah that makes sense, shaco is strong in the right hands but he's hard
I hate this kind of arena game cause like
it's not even augment diff I'm just stuck doing a 2v1
I think you have to kite a bunch to make use of his stuff idk
could just be the player
i also might be a fraud
i got dont chase, magic missile, and phenomenal evil on nasus and somehow couldnt clutch it
think it's just the player
he revives me and then uses a full plant before i can get it
morde got phenomenal evil
it might be joever
im actually fumbling game after game
ig i need to go back to sion
no more being cute
true...
Well hey the 24th is important in our countries
idt cake plays league
what other cakes do they make
Oh any kind really
Back when I visited family in russia they had a cake store that was like 2 blocks down
Had all kinds of cakes, all good stuff
Anyway Im up for Arena
Uhhh wintry
You can't eat meat or sweets today
Or is it not a tradition for you
Our whole family table is just fish
HUH
It's something something religion
oh im not religious
euw
the only tradition i know is that theres supposed to be 9 meals
on christmas day
or maybe not meals but like foods
Uh it's 12 on the eve
For 12 months in the year
Smh
Anyway i posted my table in food chat
thats a lot of food
You could duo with any of us morons 
even on the job? :susge:
Still a student i fear
even during classes? :susge:
Well i dont have classes until arena ends so
isn't this arena perma 
that's what I thought
Wait, it is?
it's what I've been told
The trophy thing for arena has a time limit
wouldn't that just be bc of season end
the way you phrased it made me think of the chrimvus 2 week away girl
That was the intention
Anyways in that case i will have to retract my statement
I will be available to play arena all of the time with certain excwptions
my dad said its 9
but neither of us is sure
ill check my notes from one of our cooking classes when break ends
I had old ppl tell 12 since childhood
might be region diff
bc he said we dont have the dietary restrictions either lol
in conclusion L+ratio bozo im making pizza for my familie
😠
promethean princess aint even out
let me dread the upcoming meta in peace wintry...
did they up the ff timer?
its been 5 mins and i cant ff lol
why did they up it to 6 minutes
wtf
i might move to edh
Bread and jam, courage if the colosuss, magic missiles and apex inventor on singed, actual infinity gauntlet
Jam is E?
Whatever the e is yeah
seems balanced
is that two spirit links?
yes
rip
what the fuck lmao
yeah thats what two spirit links will do
think I'm gonna start permabanning yone
that character has no reason to exist in the state that he does
have been for a while
its not what I think would be optimal to ban but the champ pisses me off so bad
its like a mental safety ban
Just ban stuff you don’t want to lane against
at least hullbreaker is getting deleted
Nothing wrong with that
so yone will be. manageable.
he has zerks and a recurve bow and is able to poke me under tower while dealing more damage than the tower shot he takes
Can we delete lethal tempo next? 
man theyve changed LT so much
bro ive been saying this so much larely
i rember when it took 2sec to ramp up
Well yes old lethal was actually kind of balanced and then they said lets give every melee jax passive
I don't really think abt it just because I've actually started finding Yone manageable on Ziggs but
fuck that item lol
hullbreaker trundle is such a dumb playstyle too
I understand the need of splitting to be viable and want it to be
and then still out-trade you
but its so forced with hullbreaker
honestly if trundle does it im ok with it but thats because i really like trundle
inorganic
every time they made a split item it fucking sucked (as a design)
tbffff
remember zzrot
well its trundles whole point
because splitting is sth that needs to be organically viable through correct map play
not by pick trundle but splitter item and punish a behind team by default for playing the game
i saw someoen posted a gm trundle guide on the sub and honestly i really wanna give him a shot now
I played trundle jgl every now and then inti zac sej etc
but rn he is really strong top not sure what bad match ups he has




