#League of Legends

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night marsh
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stridebreaker seems broken

sinful frost
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they lied to us

slim terrace
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I feel like half the cooldowns/durations are missing on this list

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they really did a lot of ult centric champ items

wheat notch
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@prisma ravine

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They're talking about Assassin items right now

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Dirk is 1k 25ad

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duskblade is deleted

prisma ravine
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Just gimme a rundown

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Im watching Drive with Yami and Spooks

wheat notch
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im gonna playtest ziggs itemisation rn

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uh theyre saying hydra is to finally give assassins waveclear and if its a problem theyll get nerfed in diff ways

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hubris is snowball item

prisma ravine
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Yeah makes sense

wheat notch
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seryldas became conditional bc they didnt like champs like aatrox yorick making their combos 0 counterplay

prisma ravine
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Fair

wheat notch
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they moved to tanks

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gargoyles got culled to be replaced w Jak'sho

timber patio
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Yea

severe cairn
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50%

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ABILITY

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POWER

eternal palm
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Elixir of skill is back

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Ability haste has been gated

prisma ravine
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Wdym gated?

sullen crystal
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elixir of skill?

severe cairn
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I assume he means capped or removed

eternal palm
eternal palm
severe cairn
sullen crystal
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oh wild

prisma ravine
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Ability haste being gated

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Also whats this about elixir of skill?

eternal palm
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Final one being elixir of skill

formal quartz
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What’s the first two

eternal palm
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First one gives you extra damage to minions and then gives you extra gold once the duration of the elixir finishes

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2nd one I forgot

sullen crystal
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that seems kind of insane?

formal quartz
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That seems bonkers depending on how much more

eternal palm
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It’s probably going to be minuscule gold like 25-40 range

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They’re going over the lane changes rn

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Also important to note, they said items overall should have much less damage compared to current, exception being assassins because they felt as if assassins needed that edge to not fall into irrelevancy

formal quartz
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as long as I can 1 shot adc’s

eternal palm
formal quartz
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Ask the adc Hahaa

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But I don’t no

eternal palm
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Me neither, I’ve considered him a fighter ever since his laning days started

gray sandal
eternal palm
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Interestingly, they said the lane/map changes were aimed to be early game jungler nerfs

gray sandal
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Makes it a bit harder to gank red side top lane so that's cool

formal quartz
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Except botlane KEKW

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They get another gank path

eternal palm
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Even in bot lane, they said lane ganks are much harder now especially from red side

prisma ravine
formal quartz
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I’m used to nerfs every year I can deal with this

formal quartz
prisma ravine
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By that logic assassins are also losing damage tho

eternal palm
gray sandal
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Tanks getting some hella nice items. Damn

sullen crystal
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yawn love playing adc

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yone appears on the screen and just 100-0s me with no counterplay

sinful frost
formal quartz
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What the fuck

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Adc on life support

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Mages too

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How do you trade into that

sinful frost
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Depends on how they changed it

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It may just be gutted pen now

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Instead of max value

prisma ravine
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I dont get the values then though

sullen crystal
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I uh

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think this morg had a bad game

wheat notch
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name change day

formal quartz
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fan of fnc

wheat notch
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idek if thats true anymore

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it was true until like

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lemme check the wiki

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I was a fan until Bwipo left in 2021

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and then Hyli left the year after that ICANT

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Now I don't really care for eSports anymore

prisma ravine
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Bro wtf

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120 AP Zhonyas

formal quartz
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The good ol days of zhonyas ring

prisma ravine
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Bro???????

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What the fuck do you mean 2200 gold for 90 AP

formal quartz
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And ah

prisma ravine
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Yeah Ghostblade is basically the old version but without AH

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Looks really strong tbh?

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Also fuck

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They gutted Rageblade

night marsh
wheat notch
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like the item passives are rly strong now

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will prob still check how it fares in gold efficiency

formal quartz
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Gold efficiency is for nerds

prisma ravine
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Basically giving up on pretending Eclipse was an assassin mythic

sullen crystal
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me when I pantheon W

sinful frost
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me when I hail of blades

wheat notch
prisma ravine
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What I dont get is

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Why did they gut Rageblade

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Then make a better rageblade for anyone who isnt Kaisa

eternal palm
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Wonder if you even get mobis now

prisma ravine
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Lane or jungle?

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Cuz I think lane Talon goes Tiamat

eternal palm
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Jungle

prisma ravine
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Oh then ye

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Thats what you used to rush pre-mythics

eternal palm
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Kinda feel like you can go swiftness + ghostblade now since you don’t really need the mobis

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And the swiftness has nice utility

slim terrace
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winterblessed camille is serving cunt

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prestige too

slim terrace
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jk it's not gonna show the right image for some reason nyaruhodo

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kinda weird

wheat notch
prisma ravine
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I mean gold efficiency is part of it, but I was moreso focused on the early spike nyaruhodo

wheat notch
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ye and the early spike does little

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500 more gold and you can get the chad horizon focus

formal quartz
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We don’t all play artillery angryBoye

chilly ivy
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just have a stun

dapper kite
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Abd then what, magically extend your abilities range

chilly ivy
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uh idk if you're meming

dapper kite
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It seems you are unaware

formal quartz
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They removed the cc bonus on horizon

chilly ivy
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cringe

wheat notch
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surely you can farm 6 waves

wheat notch
dapper kite
formal quartz
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jk I'm joking dont do the math

chilly ivy
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why is talon 60 mr while the other melees are 50

formal quartz
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cause mana Hahaa

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also no damage mitigation

chilly ivy
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wdym mana

formal quartz
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I assume cause talon has mana unlike zed/akali and no damage mitigation like kass shield sylas heal

chilly ivy
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i don't see how that correlates to talon having more mr than a frontliner

formal quartz
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to let him farm

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or is this lvl 18 stats

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that idk

chilly ivy
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the level is 11

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i assume that j4 or ksante would have some mr by lv 11

formal quartz
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yeah idk how riot balances resists post laning phase

wheat notch
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LMAO

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I was shocked the first time I looked at a Talon in game and he had over 50 mr without even taking the mr rune

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illegal

wheat notch
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for ksante idk he probably doesnt get mr unless he opts into it now

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The problem is I based these stats off of in game so Ori has a kindlegem but Seraph's doesn't build out of Kindlegem anymore

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so they're a bit biased

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like idk what those champs will build in preseason and im not just gonna join 6 diff discords to check

wheat notch
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oh horizon is so cheap bc it scales like dog shit

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i checked the 3 item combos and its so ass there

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Fuck

chilly ivy
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did you test the new squall item

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it sounds broken but i'm not sure

wheat notch
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im not gonna buy it on ziggs so no

chilly ivy
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rip

wheat notch
chilly ivy
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ig i'm testing lux on my own

wheat notch
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That's so goofy

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I'll test Cryptbloom later

chilly ivy
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if the damage loss isn't significant, i'd say the heal is nutty

wheat notch
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more looking at it for being cheap and also the haste

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idrc about the passive

chilly ivy
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fair

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but a soraka ult on kill is good

formal quartz
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Oh it’s an ult?

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Thought it was aoe around the dying champ

chilly ivy
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no i meant it's a comparable heal

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when i was testing hwei i bought it and on kill you have a huge nova that heals for like 450

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do note that was full build

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but still

formal quartz
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Diana’s wet dream right there

chilly ivy
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diana's wet dream is to have an escape

formal quartz
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no need to escape when they’re all dead

wheat notch
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yeah nah cryptbloom is just worse than void for gold efficiency purposes

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unlucky

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saving 150g for 20 less ap and 10% less mpen kinda sucks who knew

wheat notch
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Y'know

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With the way these items are right now

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It's kind of, extremely lame actually

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Ziggs has 0 item diversity now LOL

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You literally build the same way every game now the only diff is whether or not to get Liandry/Void 2nd and the other 3rd

eternal palm
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Oh haunting guise is back?

wheat notch
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I think

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horizon is going to get buffed really fast

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bc surely riot doesn't want me to build the same 4 items every game

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lol

eternal palm
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Idt it’s a priority

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Going off dev talk, nerfing anything that ends up being problematic, and ensuring the main goals of the map changes are priority

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Which I’m all for, cause fuck junglers

formal quartz
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Rude

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We get changed every year

sullen crystal
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phreak just gets btfo'd

slim terrace
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thank fuck

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this change also makes it so windwall doesn't block it cause it did before for some godforsaken reason

sullen crystal
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I just think the whole phreak thing so funny because like

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there were no issues with how he could have handled it except for the entire delivery of his points

formal quartz
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Phreak thing?

sullen crystal
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it's just a series of shorts I've seen azzapp react to but like

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let me see if I can find them actually

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because his attitude is insane

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very condescending and it doesn't sound like he's taking anything seriously

wheat notch
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yes btw its 400/800

formal quartz
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Okay good

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Full stack of wards and pots or dorans would’ve been insane

sullen crystal
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I wish I could have as much fun as my friends sometimes lmao

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we're in like a 9v21 game, 3 objectives down and our supp has taken 7 kills as bard

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but they don't want to ff

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but this game fucking sucks lmao

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I really don't understand

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I've not had a jungle for like 10 minutes

eternal palm
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It’s hard, but after years of playing the game you finally start seeing it as just a game

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Took me 8 years of playing the game to stop tryharding in everything

sullen crystal
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unfortunately I can't put 8 years into 30 minutes

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it's just boring and miserable when a game is clearly lost like this

slim terrace
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honestly I agree

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if a game seems clearly lost and we even barely miss an ff sometimes it feels like you're taken hostage

wheat notch
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It's good to learn how to play from behind

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you underestimate how easily people throw won games

sinful frost
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finished placements
Iron I baybee

gray sandal
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GJ bro

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Already higher than @night marsh

wheat notch
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HWEI Q IS 100 MANA LEVEL 1 LOL?

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HIS W RESTORES 135?

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Hwei scalings are kinda dogshit huh

chilly ivy
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they're ok

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70 is fine on q and e

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ult direct hit is like 110?

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idr WE ratio

wheat notch
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maybe its bc ive been ignorign his passive

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but his waveclear seems as s

chilly ivy
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20 is not lol, especially when it's 3 times

wheat notch
chilly ivy
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yes his clear sucks

wheat notch
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this champ reads

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like i really want to perma stack haste

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im thinking seraphs lucids malignance/cosmic as my plan a

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I'll start playtesting once he hits live or smthg bc then I can play him against humans

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also his w is so funny

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just cover the entire lane for free

chilly ivy
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200 ping kinda makes him unplayable for me

wheat notch
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I'm gonna fucking hate playing against this champ i can already tell

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he's gonna perma turn off my first strike

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and ill babyrage about it

formal quartz
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Just don’t get hit wesmart

wheat notch
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brother his w has half the range of lux ult

chilly ivy
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it's also incredibly dodgeable

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and if you're not isolated it does nothing

sinful frost
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It's Sunstrike
It's a precision sniping took
or a way to contribute to a kill while he's far away

wheat notch
chilly ivy
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i'm aware

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you sounded like you'd use that as a poking tool

wheat notch
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idk

chilly ivy
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ngl ew sucks

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you have to both hit the area

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and they have to not duck behind a minion

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although you have other tools to deal with ppl inside minions

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namely qe

wheat notch
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i tried using it for waveclear bc my brain went "circle surely does aoe dmg" <- thoughts of the moronic

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and then it did nothing

chilly ivy
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to the first enemy it collides

wheat notch
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it means champ

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i literally went into practice tool solar

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🧍‍♀️

chilly ivy
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riot with shit text again

wheat notch
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do u want me to record it in obs for u

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bcs ill do that rn

chilly ivy
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no it's fine i can check myself

wheat notch
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is too late

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im alreayd logged on

chilly ivy
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i trust you more than riot

wheat notch
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u should not trust me

wheat notch
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i forgot i turned my mic on

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oops lol

formal quartz
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Wtf is this the first aoe dmg that doesn’t hit minions?

wheat notch
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the dmg is single target

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you just have to be in the circle for 1 sec

formal quartz
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Why big circle?

wheat notch
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bc it's a zoning tool

chilly ivy
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you lied wintry

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i just killed a minion with ew

formal quartz
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So what if two champs inside circle?

wheat notch
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...what

sinful frost
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Distance to center, I think

wheat notch
chilly ivy
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lemme record

wheat notch
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oh

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youre right

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wtf

chilly ivy
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i am always right

wheat notch
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tbh the range is insane anyways

formal quartz
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Wintry spreading misinformation

wheat notch
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i think you can just place the thing to the left/right/behind of the enemy laner

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and not have problems lol

chilly ivy
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imo no

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you just duck inside minions

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it's too telegraphed at max range, and if it's not max range it's kinda easy to just move in a way it'd hit a minion

wheat notch
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also if theyre vibing in minions you can threaten with qq aoe imo

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so not rly a problem i htikm

chilly ivy
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if the guy is near minions the projectile is super easy to dodge wdym

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you literally take 2 steps

formal quartz
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Velkoz q things

chilly ivy
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that's including the time it takes for the eye to travel even

wheat notch
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tbf (real)

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if hes near minions i would simply ee

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the power of 10 spells

chilly ivy
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yes, but your point was that ew into qw is the main poke when it isn't

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idt that combo is viable near minions

wheat notch
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i didnt say that

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i said i could imagine him doing that for trades

chilly ivy
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trades in lane involve minions

wheat notch
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not if i KILL them all

chilly ivy
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q would be on cd

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and we both know you'd use ur ee to clear

wheat notch
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yeah but a wave takes like 20-30 secs or w.e. to come back

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and id clear that in like 10 🤨

chilly ivy
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no one stays in lane to just eat dmg if no minions are around lol

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you'd hover some lane or look for picks

formal quartz
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Do you have escape if you’re at their tower assuming you cleared in 10?

wheat notch
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the melee's are still there

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sigh

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and if they walk up to melees with no caster protection then like theyre throwing idk bro

chilly ivy
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if i clear the wave with lux i either move back to my tower or start going bot just to be closer if a fight starts

wheat notch
formal quartz
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New item

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Extra hp bar

wheat notch
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mythical 3 honors on a loss pensivecowboybread

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the ziggs q nerf is so ass for waveclear

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makes me upset

night marsh
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so the new champ is a jhin dickrider in lore?

sinful frost
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I think he's more Stan from... Stan

sullen crystal
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really don't get yone

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he's 0/4 in lane gets kraken/zerkers and then proceeds to do the most unfair bs ever

sullen crystal
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also is vex a problem for anyone else? had 2 of my friends absolutely seethe at having to play against her

sullen crystal
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syndra

formal quartz
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Vex has very polarizing match ups yeah

eternal palm
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Eh, I always felt like Vex is very reliant on snowballing, champs like that don’t really scare me

formal quartz
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Unless it’s kass

eternal palm
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My boy was telling me kass is really good on the pbe rn

formal quartz
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Is it with that ult item that leaves an aoe pool?

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I guess the healing void staff too

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Man kass is eating well with new stuff

humble glacier
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did they change protobelt at all

prisma ravine
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Yeah its bad now

slim terrace
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vex has felt to me like a champ with a kit that's too fair that needs unreasonable numbers to make up for it

prisma ravine
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Rocketbelt is 2500 gold, which is nice, but it only gives 60 AP, 300 health and 15 ability haste

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I genuinely cannot think of any champ that will use this item

prisma ravine
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Its basically the old bad version

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In an environment where a bunch of mage items got way better

sinful frost
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how good is the dash and nuke now

prisma ravine
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Worse than before

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Its like 3/5 of the scaling

formal quartz
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is the distance and mspd still the same?

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idk if that means anyone will take it tho lol

prisma ravine
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Oh wait compared to current rocketbelt

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Its the same

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Distance is the same, movespeed is gone entirely

formal quartz
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oh wtf

prisma ravine
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Well, I got a skin shard for both of the Xbringer Soraka skins

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Wtf

wheat notch
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does rocketbelt work as a waveclear tool again

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maybe rakan mid is back

prisma ravine
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Its the same as now active-wise

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So no I dont think so

wheat notch
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cringe

slim terrace
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silvrr will be devastated

wheat notch
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smartest redditor

slim terrace
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lmao

slim terrace
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ice in his veins

wheat notch
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This game is so fucking good

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I love League

slim terrace
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I think this is the first time I've actually seen you say that unironically

chilly ivy
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god of hecarim
plays graves

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dissapointing

wheat notch
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(my nunu asked for it)

wheat notch
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its what u get for not using general ygo

eternal palm
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Assassins feeling strong is a dev goal

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Question is, can we lane

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I would love lane khazix to be back

wheat notch
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I can already tell what kind of guy this person is

eternal palm
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I should have changed my name to God of Ziggs smh

wheat notch
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if you're the god of ziggs then what does that make the people that have 1k lp lol

eternal palm
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The god of Ziggs name is just to bait bans in clash :^)

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That way I can pick my true champ; Xin Zhao mid

formal quartz
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don't they see your champ mastery?

wheat notch
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yes

eternal palm
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I play like 50+ champs consistently

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My highest mastery champs I don’t even play anymore

night marsh
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My highest mastery is on fiora but I dislike the champ

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I coped myself into playing her trying to relive the pre-rework glory days

formal quartz
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Mine's eve but I haven't played her much since rework

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oh no wait noc surpassed it

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nevermind

chilly ivy
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besides brief stints with other champs, i mostly come back to my highest mastery champ

formal quartz
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yea in ranked I play only a handful but in normals I just play whatever

slim terrace
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kat used to be my highest mastery champ but thankfully grinded enough on other champs

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I think my current highest is vel'koz but I'm not touching him again until that E change potentially goes through cause lol

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meanwhile my profile

eternal palm
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The only high mastery champ I have I still consistently pick is Sylas

sullen crystal
dapper kite
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looks like renata

sullen crystal
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whatever it is it goes hard as hell

prisma ravine
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La Illusion Renata

sullen crystal
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man how have I forgotten this I love it

prisma ravine
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It does indeed go hard

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Its also her debatably best skin nyaruhodo

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I got lucky and got it from a skin reroll

slim terrace
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renata is the baddest bitch in this game and this is her best skin

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this or her prestige, they did a fantastic job on that

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either way mommy

night marsh
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true

sinful frost
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@night marsh does Garen counter Gwen

night marsh
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I never liked the matchup because it alqways seems like he can just kill you at any point int he game

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so I';d say yes

formal quartz
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point and click, run around sweet spot

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sounds about right

slim terrace
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I really love having an exp bot ruining my aram games

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singed sat in base for the first half of the game on catalyst, died and still didn't buy roa until way later

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only started to remotely do things when I called him an exp bot 🙂

wheat notch
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that ashe did not read the patch notes lol

formal quartz
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what's in the patch notes?

wheat notch
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w is like 18 seconds at all levels

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mandate comet unlpayable

formal quartz
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wtf

slim terrace
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yeah I didn't want to tell her so we had a chance but it didn't matter cause everyone had a hard-on for stepping into aatrox muugu

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so the dude 1v5'd some fights

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like aatrox was definitely good, but when he's 10% hp you have zero reason to walk face-first into him with no cd's

formal quartz
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They're reenacting worlds

wheat notch
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I'm on a fucking ROLL

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we're back at 100 lp BABYYY

humble glacier
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has the season ended or does that happen soon

slim terrace
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supposedly it's ending in January which sounds super late

eternal palm
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Wintry said the pbe changes go live in 3 weeks last I asked her

sinful frost
slim terrace
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oh they meant the end of the preseason probably muugu

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when's hwei? next patch?

prisma ravine
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Wow Zed in ARAM sucks

sullen crystal
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man I am having a blast with kha

prisma ravine
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Based

sullen crystal
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just went 18/3 like it was my job

prisma ravine
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Noice

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Playing in the jungle I assume?

sullen crystal
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yee

prisma ravine
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If you do wanna play more of him

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Hell get better next season I imagine

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The new Hydra helps a lot

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Either way, Kha is an old favourite of mine, so Im glad you enjoy him

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If you want a skin get Mecha Kha, its still his best one

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What Evos did you go for btw?

sullen crystal
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I normally just do q>w>r

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I don't think I have the mechanics to keep bouncing off people with E

sullen crystal
prisma ravine
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Fair

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Tbh E is also nowadays one of the least popular ones

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R just kinda does what it does better

sullen crystal
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E makes for some youtube clips

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think that's it really

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the amount of times you can pop off relies on how squishy the team is and how much cc they don't have

prisma ravine
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Its good for towerdives, but turrets still break isolation

sullen crystal
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while r making you invisible and giving ms is huge

prisma ravine
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I basically never go for it unless Im playing Kha mid or Im really far ahead

sullen crystal
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won a fight against a fed yi once because I went invis 3 times and he couldn't q me

prisma ravine
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Classic

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I also love BMing ADCs by just going invis twice before killing them

sullen crystal
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its so weird how easy it is to dodge stuff with R too like

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you go invis and then get in someone's face, turn direction and they just cannot figure out where you might have gone

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I guess that's how invisibility works

prisma ravine
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Pretty much

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If they dont have ways to get the shimmer they have to predict

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And league players are notoriously bad at that

sullen crystal
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only thing I need to figure is items really, the gameplay loop is pretty figured out in my head

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could do with making my clear quicker though

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or more efficient

prisma ravine
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Tbh Khas itemisation is really simple

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Itll be trickier next season but thats a bit away

sullen crystal
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I settle for the uh

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ghostblade stuff normally

prisma ravine
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Good, youre already doing better than a lot of Khas lmao

sullen crystal
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I used to watch tinjus play and I saw they returned which ended up making me play kha again and got the ghostblade from him

prisma ravine
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I usually go Ghostblade, Prowlers or Edge of Night (depending on if Im ahead or behind), then Seryldas, and then just dip into the bruiser suite for whatever I need

sullen crystal
#

makes sense to run it though, stats are good, ms is amazing too

prisma ravine
#

A lot of Khas use Duskblade still which is dumb

#

Old habits just die hard I guess

sullen crystal
#

sometimes you just wanna go invis 4 times

prisma ravine
#

Oh GA works too past the fourth item

#

Oh you dont go invis anymore, you go invuln

sullen crystal
#

oh yeah

prisma ravine
#

Which is super redundant

#

Because if you get a kill you usually R out anyway

sullen crystal
#

they changed the item so much I forgot which variant of it it's on

prisma ravine
#

And youd rather have more MS if anything

#

The only itemisation bit that I dont do that is popular is rushing Umbral Glaive

#

But I dont play at a level where vision matters that much

#

And I suspect you dont either

sullen crystal
#

yeah not really

#

sometimes I can because one of our friends just inflates the rank we play at massively when he joins compared to the rest of us

#

but most of the time wards aren't huge

prisma ravine
#

Yep

#

And without that Umbral Glaive is less useful

#

Only other thing Id say is dont sleep on Deaths Dance

#

Its not as popular anymore but against an AD-heavy team its still really nice

sullen crystal
#

yeah I went it last game actually

prisma ravine
#

Nice

#

In that case I dont think you have to worry about itemisation much

#

You have pretty much all of it figured out

#

At this point its probably mostly routing and other jungler stuff

sullen crystal
#

yeah mayhaps

#

I will figure it out in time

prisma ravine
#

Yep

wheat notch
#

Hwei is really fun

#

and I also found out that Shadowflame works on minions

#

@chilly ivy contemplating Seraph's -> Malignance -> Cosmic Drive/Shadowflame/Rabadon's Deathcap (idk what 3rd) for Hwei

#

with Ionian's

#

just bc E doesn't get cdr per skill point so i wanna stack cdr myself

chilly ivy
#

Why seraphs specifically?

#

Cause q costs 100?

wheat notch
#

everything except for E costs a shit load of mana

#

also hes squishy as hell

chilly ivy
#

Ig that works

wheat notch
#

Lemme post my kills real quick

#

Just because COOLSVILE

#

Also gotta say

#

Hwei is definitely the artillery I really wanted to come out

#

He is so much fun I love long-range fights

#

210mb file xd

formal quartz
#

god that lane looks so ginormous

severe cairn
#

Hwei is hot

#

tempting me to play League just for him

wheat notch
#

monkaGIGA pbe moment

chilly ivy
#

wholesome

sullen crystal
#

so been having a weird issue with league recently

#

when I load into a game and exclusively when I load in

#

I get horrendous lag

#

but the game runs perfectly for the rest of the time

wheat notch
#

bro why does my varus have virtue LOL?

formal quartz
#

He fights for his friends

wheat notch
#

god this katarina must feel terrible

#

outdamaged by both supports

formal quartz
#

naw I feel bad for the karma

#

tried so hard

wheat notch
#

they deserve to lose for going night harvester

prisma ravine
#

Yeah thats Kat alright

#

If you cant get fed early youre useless

sinful frost
#

Should have gone tank on-hit Kat

#

(Probably not)

slim terrace
dim kindle
#

ive seen those whack tank varus builds a few times

#

maybe secret korean tech

#

but ye its pretty garbage

formal quartz
#

I guess the logic is % max health dmg = build tank

dim kindle
#

ye but without pen and ap his % dmg falls off

#

Its not like vayne where its a guaranteed amount of damage

#

on that note im still sad about the ap varus nerf

slim terrace
#

man tahm kench is the monoblue of champions

#

pokes away at you then counters you when you try to commit

#

this shit slaps

wheat notch
wheat notch
#

but also if I were on a support budget I would not be trying to go full AP Karma

#

I'd rather full-ass support Karma with Locket and stuff instead of half-assing AP Karma and losing anyways

#

But they're the one with 50 Karma games and not me, so, what do I know

humble glacier
#

harvester support is a karma thing i believe

#

ive seen it before, idk how effective it is though

wheat notch
#

ye but its not good

humble glacier
#

do i start playing league of legos again like 3 weeks before the season ends

wheat notch
#

why not

humble glacier
#

season end

wheat notch
#

3 weeks is a lot of time

#

just have fun :)

humble glacier
#

sure

#

ill go mourn the death of protobelt

#

the 2nd death

sullen crystal
#

really feeling this ff annoyance more

#

our team keeps losing every 5v5 and then we don't ff?

#

down on gold, kills, objectives, can't win a teamfight anywhere

#

but "no we have a chance"

#

grinds my gears

eternal palm
#

I mean, do you guys have any drags to delay an early drag soul? Is their team incapable of sieging without baron buff? Do you guys outscale or have a Wumbo team comp that makes people think you have a chance?

#

I personally don’t like ffing since playing from behind is always a nice learning experience, but I can see why people want to just go next some games

sullen crystal
#

I don't mind playing them out but like

#

some games are just doomed

dapper kite
#

Oh did you not know about this guy

wheat notch
#

never heard of him

#

I don't follow the League content sphere besides LS

dim kindle
#

varus top is legit but idt the build makes sense even if it works

formal quartz
#

Robbed of cats

#

I will never forgive riot

sullen crystal
#

man I don't ban shaco for the first game and immediately get him in a game

wheat notch
prisma ravine
#

Idk about that anymore.

#

After the rune changes conqueror is at least fine on Swain

wheat notch
#

don't take it

#

i'm not saying this in jest

#

don't take it

#

every time i have ever taken it i have thought "wow imagine if i had a real keystone" on swain

#

anyways emerald games are hard if your top/bot have no hands iguess

#

doesnt help that cait started griefing and just went to a different lane :D

#

surely you can 1v1 pantheon top as a marksman

night marsh
#

Gotta say, I am not liking the Morde redesign

#

He looks so lame now

slim terrace
#

I hope this is lor only cause yeah, dude looks like a shitty cartoon villain

#

the lackeys at the front don't help

slim terrace
#

actually did cait feed him most of that damage jesus

gray sandal
eternal palm
#

He looks like a bootleg lich king

dim kindle
#

Riot recently said everything is going to be canon going forward

#

which makes this morde redesign confusing

#

maybe different time?

dim kindle
#

i mostly play aery now

#

i feel there is an elo skew because bad players just play into swain r so bad which also makes conq better

gray sandal
#

Because here she is, staring down Mordekaiser now

#

I'd have to look at what they said recently, but was p sure (at least before) that a lot of the "big" world-shaping events depicted in LoR are basically "what if?" scenarios rather than fully canon events

formal quartz
#

Volibear died?!

gray sandal
#

He and Nilah fought to the death. And next expansion we see Nilah taking on Mordekaiser

#

So either he died or it never really happened

sinful frost
#

they did say recently they want "everything" to be part of the canon moving forward
so there was no confusion about what "counts" and what doesn't

formal quartz
#

Damn so voli is the first league champ to die?

sinful frost
#

but (I think) they also said there's gonna be a transitional period

formal quartz
#

Unless someone else is dead

gray sandal
#

gangplank

#

but he came back yar harr

wheat notch
#

This guy didn't play during Burning Tides

#

point and laugh

formal quartz
#

Imagine playing LoR

dim kindle
#

since this lor set was already finished then probably its not included yet

#

i guess fate's voyage is non-canon still

wheat notch
dim kindle
#

burning tides was the bilge event with gp rework and butcher's bridge

#

good times

#

I think lor had an expansion called rising tides

formal quartz
eternal palm
gray sandal
#

There's only 1 gangplank Hahaa

dim kindle
#

its explained in the ruined king game

#

how he came back i think

eternal palm
#

I could have sworn MF killed GP, then Illaoi went berserk, then a new person took up the mantle of GP

night marsh
#

Nigga is creating fan fiction

formal quartz
#

You say it like league isn’t a giant fan fiction

sullen crystal
#

?

night marsh
#

The lore got a little better when they made the change away from summoners

#

But the new champs@have been kind of ass lore wise

eternal palm
#

Lore events haven't been good for a long while

#

they must be saving everything for the MMO

night marsh
#

Never*

#

LoR is carrying the lore of LoL so hard rn

wheat notch
#

something malicious is brewing

gray sandal
#

Lmao @night marsh

night marsh
dim kindle
#

i love that stupid gojo meme

#

especially the biden ones

#

idk league lore is in a really weird situation

#

I feel like the foundation of what we have is really good but they cant decide what they wanna do with it

#

probably has a lot to do with games in development

#

abandoning short stories completly is really bad though

#

imo

#

and ever since sentinels they seem afraid to progress the ongoing events

night marsh
#

jjk memes are peak

#

they're so afraid of committing to stories or leaving the status quo

formal quartz
#

Make players change history

#

Like when ionia vs noxus

dim kindle
#

this one felt good

#

mask is lowkey so broken sometimes

sinful frost
#

One of the issues they mentioned is that, because the stories bounce around different regions

#

a lot of the lore feels disjointed and disconnected

wheat notch
wheat notch
#

They've got to remove the fucking surrender option

#

from ranked

#

Game is so chill but nah we gotta ff18 it

#

🛌 🛌 🛌 🛌 🛌 🛌 🛌 🛌

#

so lame

formal quartz
#

I get ff pre 20 with more even scores

wheat notch
#

mental is fickle i guess

wheat notch
#

oh my mmr got fixed

#

i just got 24 and my last loss was 25

wheat notch
#

This was the least fun I've had with this game in a long while

#

why the fuck is lethality caitlyn even allowed to be Conceptualised

#

Fucking disgusting

formal quartz
#

Why did it even start catching on only recently

#

Was a ratio buffed?

prisma ravine
#

Iirc yes

#

Oh huh

#

No actually

#

Weird

wheat notch
#

xfsn saber

slim terrace
#

in fact the last ratio change I remember was them giving a crit ratio to cait ult yeah?

formal quartz
#

That’s what I last recall yea

#

I guess this saber guy was cooking

sinful frost
#

Yeah he popularized the build as a snowballing alternative build to the traditional scaling crit build

sullen crystal
#

man...

#

why does naafiri wolves protect her from isolation

prisma ravine
#

Because clearly Kha hasnt suffered enough pensivecowboybread

sullen crystal
#

also just had a game where zeri got to the point where she could ult q me and I would die

prisma ravine
#

Yeah thats ADCs for ya

#

But you get to sometimes jump and Q them for 80% of their health and thats fun

#

(For you not them)

#

(ADCs dont deserve to have fun >:) )

#

Btw did you go R evo first against Naafiri?

sullen crystal
#

did not

prisma ravine
#

I recommend doing that if you expect to get into skirmishes more

#

Way higher value vs her since it breaks the annoying dogs targetting as well

eternal palm
#

R evolve is interesting

#

I usually like W evolve into harder matchups (it’s better for contesting early objectives)

prisma ravine
#

W is good if you dont think you can fight and just wanna get utility

#

R is good if you wanna skirmish early and Q isnt ideal

eternal palm
#

I’m a glutton for punishment so I blind pick kha a lot of the time, and I get a lot of enemy teams where I know early skirmishing isn’t smart, so I usually just W evolve help my bot get prio and pull my mid to river

prisma ravine
#

I just like Kha so I blind pick him when I feel like it

#

Fun character

sinful frost
slim terrace
#

this was certainly a game of league of legends

wheat notch
#

they're talking about wanting mage itemisation to be less locked in but my testing brought the opposite result sobs

#

it's so fucking over

#

I'm gonna miss mythics I guess

gray sandal
wheat notch
#

i mean they made cryptbloom for pen

gray sandal
#

Yeah that's the name

wheat notch
#

i mean pen is always gonna be essential on mages so w.e.

#

the only diff is that ad champs get 4 pen items

formal quartz
#

Idk what they would add tho

wheat notch
#

ap black cleaver

#

it already exists in arena

#

They were trying to make items that competed with Rabadon's for that slot but ppl just like Rabadon's so they gave up

formal quartz
#

I wonder why they changed abyssal mask

#

Which was sort of like black cleaver I guess

night marsh
#

Am I high, I vaguely remember riot saying we’re getting elder drake as a champ but I don’t know if that was a dream or irl

formal quartz
#

In LoR

wheat notch
#

holy wall of text

gray sandal
#

Wow they integrated Yu-Gi-Oh into LoL now

formal quartz
#

You’ve never jungled?

wheat notch
#

Very amused by the amount of people brainlessly repeating that Horizon is bugged on this reddit thread

#

When it's been fixed since May

wheat notch
#

holy fuck positive gains

formal quartz
#

I give her 1 day

wheat notch
#

im crying where did she go

formal quartz
#

Why did she jump in?

humble glacier
#

Syndra got tornadoed

wheat notch
wheat notch
chilly ivy
#

she is a winner

slim terrace
#

looking forward to the challenger ziggs one-trick wintry

wheat notch
#

dude have you played in a lobby with a chall player i'd get gapped so fucking hard

#

those ppl are insane

slim terrace
#

nah I believe

eternal palm
#

Depends what year, I got gapped by a challenger graves pre graves rework bot lane

#

Felt like I couldn’t do anything

dapper kite
#

I got a lobby with a challenger jungle once, that guy was performing worse than his gold adc

wheat notch
#

old clip from clash

#

and this was a supp main

#

imagine if it was a mid main

#

I'd be so fucked

dapper kite
#

man dont you just love it not having a jungler when your opponent has one

#

sure makes toplane not miserable to play

formal quartz
#

Tbf it could be weak side

#

Hopefully they’re ganking bot? Hahaa

dapper kite
#

i mean they werent really doing anything all game

#

but if youre at gromp and your toplaner pings you for an easy kill maybe take a look

#

realistically i coulda won without him if i wasnt rusty but literally any help wouldve been greatly appreachiated

dim kindle
#

anyone wanna play later tonight

#

on na

gray sandal
#

i like the name btw

dim kindle
#

if you know you know

formal quartz
#

For some reason I thought you were eu

dim kindle
#

I was

#

not anymore

eternal palm
#

He’s in NY now, eating bacon egg and cheeses for me

night marsh
#

@dim kindle we need a 5th for flex

wheat notch
eternal palm
#

That’s you?

wheat notch
formal quartz
#

well at least your jnglr doing average

wheat notch
#

i lost

#

ive got to kill ymself

#

griefed 1 death and solo lost us the game

#

sigh

#

Wish I could speak turkish to see if he was flaming me at all

#

found his stream

wheat notch
#

What's with the sudden influx of griefers at this elo

#

I've lost 2 games because of people refusing to play now

sullen crystal
#

why did I get teleported straight into hell

eternal palm
#

Hell? That looks like a fun game

#

Look at all the zone control

sullen crystal
#

yeah that isn't my team

eternal palm
#

Oh, I’m sorry for your loss

wheat notch
#

idk if i was against that team i would want to kill myself

#

oops my chat didnt update

#

anyways

#

+52 today

sullen crystal
#

man I hate lux

#

why is her base damage so high and her ult cd so low

prisma ravine
#

Old character who is all skillshots basically

slim terrace
wheat notch
#

smite in aram poggers

slim terrace
#

oh that is smite, I thought it was ghost lmao

slim terrace
wheat notch
#

not blue smite

slim terrace
#

actually I think they patched that out of aram in general

sullen crystal
#

just got put against twitch mid

#

riot games wants to push me over the edge I swear

#

it's 6 minutes into the game

night marsh
#

honey wake up, new wintry mood just dropped

formal quartz
#

Is this two months late or something?

wheat notch
#

wildrift exclusive

wheat notch
#

we're so back holy shit

chilly ivy
sullen crystal
#

hate may be a strong word but I don't find laning vs her that fun as a mage

chilly ivy
#

fair

#

oh as a mage

sullen crystal
#

melee it's fine because I can get on her w/e

chilly ivy
#

umm that should be the opposite

sullen crystal
#

may just be a skill issue then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

chilly ivy
#

most mages have comparable ranges but shorter cds

#

say a good ori or syndra bullies lux

#

she can clap back on a rotation of spells, but they have theirs up sooner

#

melee should not reach her or should trade badly with her

#

unless you have hypermobility like yasuo or semblence of it such as qiyana

#

sylas i hate the most cause he can be hard to dodge and if you trade the fucker just heals

#

there's also the aspect of her best laning strat is to not lane at all

#

works well into melee's that have kill potential vs her

#

simply don't be in lane

#

after i get the mana book i usually don't even sit in lane most of the time vs stuff like panth zed talon

#

(you have to ward well, but that's besides the point)

wheat notch
chilly ivy
#

true

#

in what world did they think the syndra e is fine

#

but i mostly wanted to point out is that for short trades they do around the same as lux if not more, and lux loses extended trades due to either the second syndra q or ori's autos

#

and the second q ofc

sullen crystal
#

the same one where they decided Zed was a character that is allowed to be picked

chilly ivy
#

zed is uber nerfed

#

i never see him

#

and idt i'm even afraid of him anymore like

#

just don't panic, shield up, and if you q him he's likely dead or dead-ish

#

it's one of those matchups where i consider taking ignite as weird as it sounds

#

any time they try to kill you you pull out the uno reverse

sullen crystal
#

I dunno it feels like I get clapped by Zed every time and it's never close

chilly ivy
#

don't get poked off

#

he can't 100 you anymore unless he hits everything

wheat notch
gray sandal
#

Lmao 0/11 illaoi

prisma ravine
#

Tbh Zed is funny

#

Because yeah, he is really weak (intentionally so)

#

But even funnier is that he is kept weak because he is frustrating, and he is frustrating not because he lacks counterplay, but because he has to much of it lmao

wheat notch
#

FUCK FUCK FUCK

chilly ivy
#

33% win rate you can do it

wheat notch
#

my team cant

#

:D

#

vayne is challenger too btw

#

they ff'd

#

sigh

formal quartz
#

Kaynes having a field day

wheat notch
#

what i wanna know is how vayne got gapped so fucking hard by double master players

#

like shes challenger ?

#

and no mental ?

#

how did u reach this elo

#

meh w.e.

#

i'd queue up further but im way too tilted to keep playing after that 1

#

ffing when the game will easily turn into our favour with time teamcomp wise is insane

dim kindle
#

Vayne zilean just cant play a lane id say

wheat notch
#

ok but the mental

dim kindle
#

kaisa is just better vayne in lane she can shove and rakan is like the best support in the game

wheat notch
#

everyone was just spam pinging each other like just play the game we win 40 min for free FeelsSadcatMan

dim kindle
#

yea mental dunno

wheat notch
#

also apparently the sylas was amateur pro

#

kinda funny

#

hes got a lolpros and everything

#

i can basically compete in the turkish league if i get ziggs

#

dont ask what happens if i dont get ziggs

dim kindle
#

Turkish league is basically just a betting manipulation operation lmao

eternal palm
dim kindle
#

they do obviously have some good players though

eternal palm
#

Anytime I see us as a scaling team comp get an early drag, I’m just like “this is so free “ and then team decides to take every team fight pre 20 minutes

dim kindle
#

Scaling is low elo skewed but thats a good thing

#

but yea weak mental can be very exhausting

wheat notch
#

why are the respawn timers so fucking long for no reason

#

26 mins and my respawn takes 46 seconds

#

ok dude

eternal palm
#

26 minutes is basically late game

wheat notch
#

just stomped a nazi ama

formal quartz
#

I’m missing the connection

wheat notch
#

88 is a dogwhistle for heil u know who

formal quartz
#

Ah right forgot it was used for that

#

I know it’s not a leap to assume that but I still wouldn’t assume that considering I don’t think “lovegooning” means something bad too

dapper kite
formal quartz
#

Ah okay

#

Nvm then

#

You kids with your slang

wheat notch
#

like u could argue oh 88 is their birthyear clueless surely a person in their thirties would call themselves smthg that embarrassing

formal quartz
#

Well I hope you reported them

wheat notch
#

The bot checker probably won't notice what's wrong

#

I should've elaborated in the text box

#

oh well

chilly ivy
#

re-report in match history

wheat notch
#

You can't re-report

chilly ivy
#

well make a second i meant

wheat notch
#

Yes it's grayed out

#

Contacting Riot Support does nothing they'll just tell you to do it in the client

wheat notch
#

just lost to baus

#

im actually going to fucking kill my self

night marsh
#

yikes that jax build

prisma ravine
#

Yeah he just plays AP Jax

wheat notch
#

ye baus is a disgusting being

#

just ints games in masters

#

for content

#

funny that i had malice in my lobby too

#

gonna look at his vod and check how toxic he was to me later

dapper kite
#

now why would you do that to yourself

wheat notch
#

any attention is good attention

wheat notch
#

ive heard one flame so far and it is valid

#

(me fucking up a kill)

dim kindle
#

i know the singed player LUL

dapper kite
#

The name seems familai but i dont know from where

slim terrace
#

he's the EU jungler who played in a KR minor league for a short time

#

LS knew him, he played a lot of karthus

slim terrace
eternal palm
#

Malice has a reputation for being super toxic that EU teams won’t even touch him

slim terrace
#

impressive considering EUW /s

wheat notch
#

yea he said singed had the brain of a pigeon

wheat notch
#

smthg smthg mad lions

dapper kite
#

Yeah i was

slim terrace
#

o

wheat notch
#

seems like

#

a well adjusted person

eternal palm
#

Typical euw way of saying “hey man, you played great!”

humble glacier
#

Prestige Rakan Skin 👀

sullen crystal
#

I remember hearing this but not sure

#

is Arena permanent this time?

chilly ivy
#

yes