She is super linear
#League of Legends
prisma ravine
humble glacier
ah
she lanes somewhat oddly tbh
its mainly just q'ing for cs because shes melee and get poked
and dashing to recall ur wolves sometimes
slim terrace
the laning is pretty straightforward, I just couldn't figure out when I was supposed to go in with her
forgot which champ I was facing but she felt less like a burst assassin and more that I needed to do a lot of damage with dogs
wheat notch
wheat notch
🥲
sinful frost
#1027630139338661969 crossover
https://vxtwitter.com/arcaneshow/status/1722721482865074408
dapper kite
Neat
wheat notch
man why did sro make a good meme this guy is supposed to be cringe
wheat notch
Just got 10 report feedbacks all at once
chilly ivy
call guinness
formal quartz
Oh is league adding in a macro for chat or something?
formal quartz
Oh 
chilly ivy
you get ping muted for a really long time if you do specific pings
formal quartz
God forbid I ping mia because my opponent roams 24/7
chilly ivy
yep if you ping it 3 times you're fucked
formal quartz
GL to my teammates you’re on your own
chilly ivy
ngl i don't usually advocate for this
but the whole team should be moved elsewhere
or at least the ppl backing the decisions
i was ok-ish with the "no ping on abilities thing" but it's getting riddiculous
formal quartz
I’m sure they do but it doesn’t even seem like they play enough to know the pings are vital
chilly ivy
they're of a higher rank than me, iirc phreak is diamond or smth
but this isn't a game tailored for him
(or adcs)
don't wanna go out of a limb and say they're killing the game but holy fuck
they really need new ppl on the team asap
wheat notch
he's d4 neg wr
chilly ivy
still better than emerald 3
wheat notch
but anyone can hit d4 r n
formal quartz
I wonder if balance team is making these behavior? changes
wheat notch
u could hit d4 r n solar
formal quartz
Don’t tempt me winters
wheat notch
idk abt u bioo
formal quartz
wheat notch
i'm too lazy and ppl are teaching me valorant
what if i taught u league instead 😀
chilly ivy
🙃
wheat notch
(<- horrible teacher)
chilly ivy
lux is usually a champ that can't really win the game on her own even if you're 7/0
wheat notch
u play asol
wheat notch
I've faced the worst asol players ever in master and it doesn't matter bc their champ auto wins at 25
chilly ivy
and some matchups are literally "i farm til 9"
chilly ivy
ehh if i wanted to play farming sim i'd boot up civ 6
wheat notch
play kassa if u want better asol idk
chilly ivy
assassins don't mesh with me
i tend to panic if someone is close to me
even if i closed the gap
wheat notch
is kassa even an assassin
chilly ivy
playstyle wise yeah
wheat notch
i consider him a battle mage like vlad
chilly ivy
he's not tanky enough (except vs magic dmg) nor he has sustain
his post lv16 playstyle is literally to blow someone up and gtfo
then repeat
slim terrace
it is just a playstyle 
nasus and sion kinda have that too where you just hope to survive lane with as few deaths and as many stacks as possible
or nasus moreso ig, idk if sion has more activity
chilly ivy
sion is afk push
wheat notch
he's not tanky enough (except vs magic dmg) nor he has sustain
hes a roa archangel champ wym,,,,,,,
chilly ivy
if we're talking mid
chilly ivy
hes a roa archangel champ wym,,,,,,,
yeah and those cost a shit ton
formal quartz
He is also afk push top
wheat notch
they're a cheaper core than anyone else
wheat notch
roa is 28 i thought
wheat notch
assassin mythics are 31 good mage mythics are 32
iirc
i dont know marksmen so i wont comment
wheat notch
ofc the best class has the cheapest mythics (besides supports)
snoreeeee
ignore that their legendaries are all like 34 lmfao
chilly ivy
oh wait mythics are 3400 for adcs
wheat notch
buh
chilly ivy
only legendaries are 3000
wheat notch
kid........ .
prisma ravine
ofc the best class has the cheapest mythics (besides supports)
Arent ADC mythics super expensive?
prisma ravine
chilly ivy
anyways, why do i always get into covos mid sets
smh me
the reason i wanna change their team overall is that i think their recent balance changes are stupid
the fact we're still getting things like one patch buffing a champ then nerfing them the next kinda signals they don't know wtf they're doing
(just let me run the team, i will remake dawngate)
formal quartz
I have my money on janna being nerfed next patch
chilly ivy
you can bet on it
cause ppl will either cry about it, or they'll look at the numbers and say "oh noes we overbuffed"
without realising that she needs to settle
i would agree with a slight number change if they see a spike, but 2 weeks is too small a timeframe to see the overall result
night marsh
is it not unacceptable that ksante recived an entire rework only a year after his release?
chilly ivy
it's unnaceptable that their fix for a 2 month bug is to disable a rune for him
formal quartz
Lol what rune?
chilly ivy
hexflash
it really means either their engine sucks ass (which it does) or they suck at programming (can't really prove that one)
hexflash has been a bug magnet since release
slim terrace
just make him shed all his resistances in ult form 
formal quartz
Just use garen
chilly ivy
idt that ult should exist in this form
prisma ravine
They even said as much that they cant fix the bug
chilly ivy
ngl they messed that one up
prisma ravine
Its likely one of the weird ones
prisma ravine
The hexflash thing?
wheat notch
yes
chilly ivy
they constantly fix and reintroduce hexflash shit
prisma ravine
We sure arent
wheat notch
and GOOD on you
chilly ivy
idk i look at vandiril's videos
wheat notch
i havent opened vandiril in months
chilly ivy
it got cast at full range if you interupted the channel with hexflash
even if hexflash was on cd
the on cd part perplexes me
night marsh
Wait that full charged in .1 seconds?
I think it scaled based on additional hp
one of his dashes does, Idr which
I think it's insanity his q has a 80% slow
prisma ravine
Q cast time does actually
night marsh
on such a spammable ability
chilly ivy
dash range doesn't increase
only cast time on health and static cd on resistances
for q
prisma ravine
Tbh my issue with Ksante is just that
It seems Riot forgot how the jack of all trades line is supposed to continue
chilly ivy
imo ksante shouldn't be a jack of all trades
he should have just been a displacer tank
prisma ravine
Why is a tank also debatably a better assassin than assassins
Eh I like the jack of all trades part
His ult just needs to be a touch weaker
night marsh
why does his ult not remove everything
what only % of it lol
why is every ability of his just so strong
dapper kite
mfw pressing my ult kills me instantly cause it removed all of my health
prisma ravine
why does his ult not remove everything
Imagine becoming an assassin but also gaining the risks of being an assassins smh
night marsh
in general this top meta has been ass
it has mostly been the same+new/reworked champs for a year straight
and all of them are insufferable to play vs
garen should never be good
aatrox and illaoi are aids
ksante is ksante
naafiri was fine outside the q winning trades by itsef
prisma ravine
That implies there are top lane metas people like lmao
night marsh
I like the fighter ones
or ones that dont include hullbreaker
tank ones are good too
just get juggernauts out the meta pls god
prisma ravine
Also hasnt Garen been mid at best for a while?
slim terrace
no garen goes top
dapper kite
garen fells way worse this season than the last one
prisma ravine
no garen goes top
That was a joke that is beneath even me. Reflect on that
dapper kite
might just be washed tho
slim terrace
is it though
night marsh
people hopped off conq and go phase rush double zeal
wheat notch
i hate facing garen
night marsh
into hullbreaker
night marsh
shit is so annoying
night marsh
point and click silence into unavoidable damage nuke
tanky and fast
free stats btw
prisma ravine
As far as I can tell Garen has like no presence in high elo
wheat notch
also kill syndra idc if i see her only once every 20 games rn that champ is fucking horrific
idk bro i see him constantly in masters
night marsh
he drops about 1% in playrate each time you raise a tier
slim terrace
syndra feels like ksante not that her kit is super unfair, but in that top players make her feel downright oppressive
and then low elo ones are useless
wheat notch
i love her outranging me
formal quartz
Syndra is top now? Til
chilly ivy
the e range is stupid
wheat notch
REALLY COOL GUYS
slim terrace
she just does ridiculous damage too
wheat notch
so mucv counterplay
slim terrace
Syndra is top now? Til
I literally just made this joke
wheat notch
dog shit hit box dog shit range dog shit stun duration
and then she just kills me in the 2s im stunned
formal quartz
I literally just made this joke <:pensivecowboybread:737367263635570688>
Oh you were joking lol
formal quartz
and then she just kills me in the 2s im stunned
~~just don’t get hit ~~
wheat notch
dog shit hit box dog shit range dog shit stun duration
consider the first 4 words
chilly ivy
oh and qe is fatter than lux q
slim terrace
top = top % of players
chilly ivy
conclusion, i should play syndra
formal quartz
Oooh
wheat notch
yeah syndra is broken
slim terrace
I thought you were making a joke on top = top lane cause I figured that was common
wheat notch
but also needs hands so i int on her
wheat notch
bottom text
formal quartz
I’m proud of you
wheat notch
fwiw i always int against sylas (except the one time i picked ori and wave managemented all over him) so it's w.e.
wheat notch
first strike shouldn't exist but they also deleted sorcery keystones so i dont have a choice
formal quartz
Or give us more options
wheat notch
besides phase rush which only 4 champs can abuse
night marsh
conq and grasp are the runes singlehandily holding top lane together rn
prisma ravine
Yeah the nerfs to the runes were just dumb
eternal palm
#BringBackKleptomancy
slim terrace
wasn't first strike their attempted fix for kleptomancy
slim terrace
that keystone was worse than omnistone
I genuinely never understood this keystone outside of trolling, was there any benefit to literal random keystones?
chilly ivy
iirc the idea is that the cd after use is significantly lower
for melee if you trigger a rune, you got a new one after 3 seconds
at lv 18
dapper kite
Also you kept the stacks for the stacking runes
Sou you got the benefits of dark harvest (funny wahoo extra damage + collecting stacks) wothout the downside (picking dark harvest)
slim terrace
I see
dapper kite
Problem is just that it would give you all the keystones, and most champs want to use like
4
Like aeri and comet arent exactly keystones you want on the same characters that want conq or lethal tempo
slim terrace
I just remember people running it on bard
slim terrace
bard is the omni-kit
formal quartz
Gnar is like the only other champ I know who can use every keystone
formal quartz
Sounds funny in theory
formal quartz
You reminded me I need to try brand jng
Why they buffed him for jng who knows but I’ll try it
wheat notch
I genuinely never understood this keystone outside of trolling, was there any be...
idr
i think like viktor played it
dapper kite
I think it was quite fun, even though it was often suboptimal
Like yeah i picked it on jax
Would lethal or conq have been better? Yes
formal quartz
But if I don’t know what I’ll have neither will my opponent
dapper kite
My opponent when he has to 1v1 guardian jax instead of conq jax
dapper kite
Omnistone when it sees an opponent that has lost a quarter of their health
formal quartz
Didn’t they change omnistone to give certain runes more often?
Unless I’m misremembering
sinful frost
Why they buffed him for jng who knows but I’ll try it
I remember reading a theory
Brand isn't good enough in lane to hawk it as a midlaner or a mage support
So they're putting him in a role that doesn't lane
dapper kite
you could brand jungle p easily since a while back
formal quartz
I didn’t know they buffed his monster dmg before
dapper kite
like hes not got the karthus clear or anything
formal quartz
Only learned of it now
dapper kite
i like when they make nontraditional champions able to jgl
like darius jgl
big fun
formal quartz
zed jungle
dapper kite
havent tried it
wheat notch
i wish zyra mid was playable so bad u dont understand
formal quartz
Should’ve played 10 years ago
wheat notch
she's legit so fun to play but just an absolutely dog shit champ
formal quartz
She was a menace
dapper kite
so true
wheat notch
she's like morg mid without any of the things that make morg mid work
dapper kite
whenever im facing a competent zyra in lane im like "whoa, maybe i actually have to respect this"
and then laning phase ends and she just doenst do anything
wheat notch
yea,
quickplay is cool btw
but queue times suck. which was blind picks problem
crasy how i could habe a ranked queue pop faster than qp
wheat notch
what did it do
chilly ivy
same thing just a circle
imagine lux e if it didn't have travel time and instead had a delay
or like old swain w with no snare
wheat notch
wtf
formal quartz
Karthus q
dapper kite
with just a tad more radius
chilly ivy
since it had a radius it was just slightly longer range that it is now
and she could clear better
cause you could hit everything just like lux e iirc
wheat notch
i mean zyra can hit everything now too just be on a side 5head
the problem is her cds and range
and exploding to wind caressing her
dapper kite
I should play sion jungle again
this shit gas
2k bonus health from clearing my camps
wheat notch
how do u gank anyone doe
chilly ivy
what's a gank
dapper kite
how do u gank anyone doe
with my expertise at reading the flow of a lane
wheat notch
ziggs buff pogu
formal quartz
didn't they just nerf him?
wheat notch
yes
chilly ivy
— Yesterday at 18:51
wheat notch
— Yesterday at 18:51
It's not a direct buff bro
I just perceive every turret gold change as a Ziggs change
wheat notch
<@265960037552357376> it’s not too late for you
I'm not even challenger much less pro level relax
eternal palm
Wym, you’re close
wheat notch
I just hit master 0lp I'm boutta demote
eternal palm
You’ve been leveling up every year
eternal palm
1 step back 2 steps forward
Also you played way less games than Im used to seeing you play
wheat notch
ye qp is cool
wheat notch
Also you played way less games than Im used to seeing you play
how long is this season lasting again
slim terrace
ye qp is cool
a q p
W
slim terrace
I'm pretty sure I ran into one of the worst to face aram comps yesterday
teemo and sivir had ridiculous waveclear, and sivir meant we never had a cannon minion to clear shrooms
double hook would punish us for looking for picks and nidalee is just spear spam on top of that
all with a hearsteel morgana on our team who literally got less than 200 stacks the whole game
dim kindle
Think the only downside to that comp is that a bruiser engage team will eat u alive if they find good engages
but you guys didnt have that
slim terrace
we had decent engages too I feel like, but we needed to eliminate all of them immediately which was just impossible
cause any time we tried to chase then teemo had a ton of mushrooms set up down lane
wheat notch
q_p
sullen crystal
just had a botlane play trundle voli
what did I do to deserve this
think the trundle ended 1/10
humble glacier
dw one day theyll buff trundle pillar cd by like 3 seconds randomly and trundle supp will work again
wheat notch
i rmr seeing a clip where trundle had just enough cdr to have 8.5s cd or smthg and just perma cancelled his premades recall lmao
wheat notch
i sure hope you're not thinking of anything devious
chilly ivy
trollrnn
slim terrace
i rmr seeing a clip where trundle had just enough cdr to have 8.5s cd or smthg a...
can still do this with anivia at least lol
sinful frost
Thankfully no one plays Anivia
slim terrace
actually idk if you can do that with her, I meant to say you can do it with both on urf
idk why I said it like that, I think I'm losing my mind
chilly ivy
the cd is 17s, i doubt you can reach 8secs
sullen crystal
had the displeasure of playing against camille again
genuinely fuck this character
nothing about this character is enjoyable to play against and they are such awful design
night marsh
top lane karma vs top lane fiddle
eternal palm
The fiddle pick seems fine if it came after the karma pick
If it came before then idk what blood was cooking
night marsh
what universe would you pick fiddle into karma
also nvr, it says top for some reason but fidd was jg
tahm was getting karmaed
eternal palm
I can see fiddle just drain tanking
formal quartz
I mean it has the top icon
wheat notch
have u heard of this cool concept of role swapping
anyways good haul tonight got +75
formal quartz
have u heard of this cool concept of role swapping
it still has a top icon 
so it's not outlandish for someone to assume top
wheat notch
"quickplay"
slim terrace
everyone's queueing mid clearly
wheat notch
the ranked estimate was 2 min btw
wheat notch
? ?
formal quartz
I don’t get it
wheat notch
why cna i read pings they removed this feature
formal quartz
Oh right forgot they did that
Ping Changes known bugs
Sending an ally scoreboard item, ultimate, or Summoner Spell cooldown ping in the last 50% of its cooldown will show [Party] in front of the ping even though it is still being broadcast to the whole team.
mild wagon
sinful frost
brain check
when do they cycle the skins on sale
wheat notch
The "give a champ an unnecessary buff and then nerf them repeatedly" maneuver
masterful gambit
chilly ivy
I am pulling out my quote
chilly ivy
I'm ok with a nerf
But fluctuating all the time I'm not fine with
Again, demonstrating they have no clue what they're doing
sullen crystal
velkoz pog
night marsh
brain check
when do they cycle the skins on sale
I believe every week or every 2 weeks
gray sandal
Riven buff. Is it that time of the year 👁️
formal quartz
Nooooo Nocturne nerf
gray sandal
Nooooo Nocturne nerf
Lol they typo'd. It's j4 nerf instead
severe cairn
imagine nerfing nocturne
formal quartz
Oh okay nice my main lives on
formal quartz
holy shit this ranked game had 87 deaths in 30 minutes
slim terrace
congratulations on getting the enemy team akali
wheat notch
and a bad ziggs
chilly ivy
yes
sullen crystal
very cool they're making it perma
wonder if they'll keep adding augments or cycling some between patches
wheat notch
Hey @prisma ravine you suck off Viktor any chance you get, right
wheat notch
But yes I like Viktor, why?
is the Ori matchup vik favoured or am i just shit at this game
bc i just giga inted a viktor in >d4 while playing my first ori game in weeks
prisma ravine
It shouldn't be i think
Viktor is great against enemies that don't outrage him, Ori does
wheat notch
well yes but if i trade as ori i want to use my 🅱️roken autos
prisma ravine
Its mostly the Q
wheat notch
but yeah i used my q really bad that game anyways
so not used to the champ anymore
but you wouldn't know it if you looked at my opgg
I went 2/5/2 lmao
but i randomly got a zac leap into ori ult into double kill when we were doing a nexus push
prisma ravine
Nice
wheat notch
just trying to expand my champ pool for scrims and such
because otherwise like oh ziggs gets banned i get to play sera and sera mid is so good
but if they ban ziggs sera its so over
i have like swain. and im not good at swain anymore.
wheat notch
It shouldn't be i think
you have MISLEAD me !
(it's ori favoured because vik sucks rn and ori is good rn but if they were both equally good it would be a hard lane i was told)
prisma ravine
Really? That's odd
wheat notch
at least thats what a gm in na told me
prisma ravine
Iirc Vik was used as an Ori counter in pro before
wheat notch
wheat notch
i did win trades if i hit q w though putting 3 points into w before maxing q is FUCKED its so much dmg
prisma ravine
Like ye you can't dodge the e, but without the augment the e is mid
And you can dodge the second hit of e
prisma ravine
Also e should only just barely outrange your q, and be outranged by qw
It's 70-230 + 0.5 per AP
It's fine but it's low by mage standards
wheat notch
Have I expressed my rage about the Ziggs nerfs already btw
im gonna love not getting to play my favourite rune page because i can no longer 2 shot casters with the qn erf
wheat notch
ori qw is absolutely not this big btw lol
wheat notch
They do seem excessive
They're deserved because champ is still giga broken in botlane I just want compensation buffs mid next patch because holy FUCK he's gonna hit 49% winrate on lolalytics
wheat notch
did u not account for the laser going beyond the circle
wheat notch
i think you might have misinterpreted smthg
ori does not fully encompass the runic texts
eternal palm
Seems like a farm lane to me, and If anything Vik outpokes you, I do see Ori with a push advantage pre augment for viktor though
eternal palm
yeah but like, why even opt into those trades if you're vik, you're looking to get first augment and first back at the minimum
prisma ravine
ori does not fully encompass the runic texts
Odd
Maybe it's center center for some reason
prisma ravine
what if ori didn't ask for your consent
This pretty much
Ori gets in your face and tells you to fuck off
dapper kite
🤨
humble glacier
ori has a lot of rights because shes busted af
eternal palm
but that's due to how gutted vik is and how broken ori currently is, if this was a past vik or even ibg vik, Q auto + E poke would still trade fairly decently. And you just drop Gravity field if she walks up to get a positive trade
in a perfect world where both champs are around the same level, this should just be a farm lane
dim kindle
dunno ori kinda just beats every mage in lane except for artillery
Vik was sorta good before but yea the champ is just turbo outclassed
i think its cuz w max ori frontloads a lot of damage in lane
like q w auto run away outtrades almost everything
esp since you can start moving to dodge the return fire very fast
its interesting because back in early seasons ori beat everyone too and then got outpowercreeped for years until she got buffed a bunch of times recentlyish
eternal palm
she's been getting small buffs for like a year or so iirc
sullen crystal
finally had to play against yorick again
fuck this champ man
his jungler just sits top and I have to just kick rocks
slim terrace
isn't that any champ with a jungler sitting top
prisma ravine
Fuck
I have too many good Akali skins already and I got her crime city skin
Which I wanted to have in the past >.>
I dont play her enough to have like 4 skins on her
slim terrace
@wheat notch I finally did it, are you proud of me
wheat notch
<@265960037552357376> I finally did it, are you proud of me
congration
are u taking good runes and good items robotussler
slim terrace
no 😌
chilly ivy
i love riot
sullen crystal
love when my mid feeds yasuo
why does that character get to full build off of 2 items it's so ridiculous
prisma ravine
Sadly (... well depending on your perspective) he doesnt anymore, you basically need 3 items to get all the stats you want
But he still is crazy when ahead
sullen crystal
he just shouldn't be allowed to do anything that he does it's absurd
berserkers kraken and he basically killed anyone trying to fight him in like 10 seconds max
prisma ravine
Well he can be frustrating to fight, but fwiw ... Yasuo kinda sucks right now
But not much you can do when mid feeds him
Youre playing bot right?
Or was it top
wheat notch
true bone
I want to watch League world finals tomorrow because all of my friends will be too, I haven't played the game in 5 years, here's what I've managed to gather about the current state of the game, can anyone here confirm?
-T1 good Weibo bad
eternal palm
T1 has exceeded pre-tournament expectations
As has Weibo
Like I told my buddies though, let’s see what happens, T1 looks like a completely different team when Zeus is getting slammed top (look at Kingen in the DRX series last year)
And T1 is a team that likes to keep their jungler bot at all times
Jungle should determine the matchup. Oner has been having a hell of a tournament, as has WeiWei
slim terrace
lmao
slim terrace
naw jk T1 has been looking really good
not only this but I feel like in particular everyone on t1 has been stepping up
eternal palm
Did they take it down?
eternal palm
Ah okay
sinful frost
wheat notch
ah good enough guess im hwei main now
chilly ivy
same
wheat notch
i hope this means the old dmg amp on liandrys is back btw
wheat notch
same
he seems maybe a tinge too complicated for me but I'm sure all I need is practice, smthg I'll never get bc he'll be pick/ban
wheat notch
same
relatedly wanna spam custom 1v1s on euw when he comes out to get better bc the bozo is gonna be a permaban 
slim terrace
ah good enough guess im hwei main now
hwei actually looks super fun from the teaser
dapper kite
https://vxtwitter.com/PSG_TALON/status/1725468829185433961?s=20
||Prophetic tweet methinks||
slim terrace
worlds spoilers ||wow that was anticlimactic lmao, yay for 4th faker worlds||
dapper kite
Ig ill also do spoilers
slim terrace
idk whether or not to spoiler this but I figure for people that need to watch VODs
dapper kite
Yeah thats fair
slim terrace
||t1 was genuinely way too clean though holy shit, even despite weibo's shortcomings||
prisma ravine
Oh Hwei looks fun
gray sandal
That was such a lame finals
wheat notch
only thing i realised watching the finals is that i really don't care ab watching esports fuck
gray sandal
Same
eternal palm
Wait, the new champion is just Invoker from dota lol
sullen crystal
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/s/zAozjjFXnp
pog time for me to go to london
prisma ravine
Wait, the new champion is just Invoker from dota lol
Similar but more tightly designed
formal quartz
Wait, the new champion is just Invoker from dota lol
yoooo for real?
I couldn't play him for shit but he was fun
||Wow only 3 games uploaded for finals, this is going to be a stomp isn't it||
wheat notch
Do we know how his spell selection works?
you press one of the keys to select what Type of spell you want (q for dmg/w for support/e for cc) then press q w e again for 1 of 3 spells. doing q/w/e -> r resets your spell selection
are they implying hwei is artillery
eternal palm
Like ovven said it’s a tighter invoker, invoker still clears
sinful frost
Big difference is that the Qs, Ws, and Es all share a CD
so you only get max four spells in a rotation
night marsh
yeah im not reading all of that
but by LoL's track record, this is going to just be broken
sinful frost
brain check
If Hwei is Level 1, does he:
- have access to QWE by default because Rito privilege
- have access to only one letter (Q for this example), but can cast all three Q variants
- have access to only Q, and can only cast QQ
eternal palm
Safe to assume it’s either A or C
sinful frost
I've heard someone suggest every single option
So I have made no progress lamo
dapper kite
My gut is B or c
chilly ivy
i think it'd be weird if it's anything but b
giving 3 spells lv 1 is way too hard to balance
and the champ's name is versatily so c would be awkward
wheat notch
brain check
If Hwei is Level 1, does he:
- have access to QWE by default because...
It's B.
wheat notch
B is fucked. That’s access to 3 spells regardless
no?
they all share the same cooldown
chilly ivy
sure there's the diversity, but how would A be balanced then lmao
eternal palm
Sharing the same cd doesn’t suddenly mean having access to 3 different options at level 1 isn’t a competitive advantage. QQ is high single target damage, QW is aoe, QE is Aoe + slow, that’s still fucked options to have level 1
I’m not saying A was balanced, but C would have def been the ideal option. A would have just made some thematical sense (and is how invoker works iirc)
chilly ivy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNVjKTTZ5HE btw it's B
lv2 hwei has q and e unlocked, but can use qw and ew
sinful frost
That said, QQ/QW/QE all share Q's base cooldown and mana cost, so you aren't getting 3 abilities worth of cooldowns, just 3 abilities to choose from.
He has 9 base spells and an ultimate, but he has normal cooldowns for a mage allowing him to cast up to 4 spells including his ultimate back to back. No 10 spell chains.```it wa s known
thats why i said it with conviction
sinful frost
Olay Rito next midlaner you release should be inspired by Shadow Fiend
sinful frost
Can't be attacked?
formal quartz
Yeah can’t be attacked or attack
The astral one
Used a Tauren spirit walker model
sinful frost
Sounds like something from the WC3 era
eternal palm
Used a Tauren spirit walker model
Spirit breaker
formal quartz
Yeaaah that
sinful frost
He's really good right now, incidentally
eternal palm
He got changed in dota 2 iirc so skipper might not be familiar with his astral form
eternal palm
A lot of heros got changed for dota 2
sinful frost
Yeah you say Astral I think of Earth Titan
eternal palm
Even invoker had like 50+ spells in dota 1, and I think in dota 2 it’s only like 20ish?
formal quartz
Lowering the skill cap smh
wheat notch
He was previously at 25
27
sinful frost
Then Dota 2 gave him a couple novel ones so he's at 10 to 12 depending how you count them
prisma ravine
Even invoker had like 50+ spells in dota 1, and I think in dota 2 it’s only like...
That was an early version
He was at 10 in Dota 1 for a while
eternal palm
Who else did they change, iirc Medivh was made way better in dota 2 compared to dota 1 where he was still really good
I remember watching a TI and not recognizing the hero, until realizing it was Medivh
sinful frost
What were his skills
eternal palm
He was the one that stole ults
Idk what his dota 2 name is
Certain ones I know their name by heart, others I recognize by their model
formal quartz
He was the one that stole ults
sylas?
humble glacier
hwei seems interesting enough
they limited his spellcasting with shared cd's but
if this char is problematic still its because of the amount of sheer utility he has
straight line skill shot, long range cirlce, straight line lingering field,
ms buff, damage amp + mana regen, shield
straight line skillshot fear, something similar to swain W, and something similar to sett E
passive is more damage
ult is a growing aoe circle with damage + slow
prisma ravine
Key is that he is immobile and lacks a get off me tool
As long as assassins are playable hell have a counter
sullen crystal
his fear is the closest thing to a get off me
wheat notch
just got inted by baus
im goign to fuckign explode man
this person surely deserves to not get id banned for playing ap irelia every stream for content
prisma ravine
Oh he is still o nthat?
slim terrace
omg she's made it, getting inted by a high profile streamer
eternal palm
I’m watching his stream, says that was only his 2nd loss in 9 games
wheat notch
I’m watching his stream, says that was only his 2nd loss in 9 games
he was probably trying on his main
before it got banned
:D
i skipped back in time and hes on sion
yeah he was tryharding on main
slim terrace
btw did you notice xiaohu was about to build shiv ahri but he sold his shard lmao
slim terrace
I wonder if he was actually thinking about committing to it or was stuck on an old build
if he completed that I think he would've been flamed hard ||or harder than now||
wheat notch
idk the casters were hypign it up
formal quartz
||damn a 3-0 sweep, kind of a shame for finals but I get it t1 was clean||
gray sandal
but by LoL's track record, this is going to just be broken
The article is funny. We all know this is going to be broken but they're trying to justify saying they gave him "weaknesses" when all 10 spells cover just about every situation 
prisma ravine
Yeah
gray sandal
Yeah that's the only real flaw. But a coordinated team can easily work around that
prisma ravine
He lacks a dash, he doesnt have a good get off me tool
As long as assassins are viable
gray sandal
The fear is a get off me tool
prisma ravine
He just gets crushed
I said good for a reason
Its about as effective as Xeraths E as a get-off-me tool
gray sandal
Gets the job done
sullen crystal
man FUCK teemo
gray sandal
This guy really reading as Aphelios the Mage ngl
wheat notch
Yeah that's the only real flaw. But a coordinated team can easily work around th...
and coordinated teams will stomp him with control mages
bro def gets ratio'd by ori rn
gray sandal
You think so?
wheat notch
(speculative)
gray sandal
Maybe
gray sandal
Depends on his numbers, right?
gray sandal
Oh the cd? Lol
wheat notch
like ori has practically no cd in comparison
gray sandal
4 sec Q...
wheat notch
but ye its numbres based
sullen crystal
me when I have 200 armour but yone autos me 5 times so I have to leave
pain
does stacking resists actually do anything anymore lmao
sullen crystal
the only mage in this game is taliyah jungle so
but like what am I doing against this
I just get turned into mist
formal quartz
Ayy I'm still not that bad at the game
wheat notch
congrats youre gold 1
formal quartz
sullen crystal
Man I blow ass at league holy
sinful frost
formal quartz
“We made top and mid harder to gank but fuck bot lane we made a new gank path for them”
prisma ravine
Good
prisma ravine
ADCs don't deserve rights
formal quartz
Mages are fioras now
sinful frost
There's a lot of info floating around
Tryna figure out where it's coming from and if there's a central source
formal quartz
When’s next season?
sinful frost
Starts in Jan, video says
formal quartz
Ah okay
dapper kite
actually idt they showed the buildpath for cryptbloom here
dapper kite
finally, us oppressed support players can start with both a support item and a dorans
formal quartz
No way it costs only 40
dapper kite
yeah its obviously 50
formal quartz
prisma ravine
Ah fuck, they kept Navoris
Very disappointing
Lethality items look good though
Also those madmen did it
They gave us an item that gives % armour pen and lethality
dapper kite
malignance goes hard on ap trundle i hear
formal quartz
They gave us an item that gives % armour pen and lethality
Wait which item?
wheat notch
more champion quests are based
prisma ravine
It's one of the passives
wheat notch
wow do they hate mages why is zhonyas no longer a mage itme
prisma ravine
It's 22 + 12% lethality % armour pen
formal quartz
It's one of the passives
Isn’t that flat armor pen that increases the more lethality you have? Like deathcap but lethality
Oh %
prisma ravine
Nope
dapper kite
more champion quests are based
true!
prisma ravine
Otherwise the item would be 37 lethality lmao
dapper kite
formal quartz
Yeah we need to wait for riot to proof read it
formal quartz
Otherwise the item would be 37 lethality lmao
Balanced
dapper kite
everfrost is gone 🦀
prisma ravine
Anyway assassin item changes look interesting
prisma ravine
It's the new old demonic embrace
formal quartz
Passive - Cinderbloom: Magic damage and true damage critically strikes enemies below 35% health, dealing 20% increased damage (reduced to 30% increased damage for damage over time and pet effects).
Reduced?
Did they mean increased?
prisma ravine
Profane Hydra alone though is
formal quartz
Did rift maker always apply 100% omni to aoe?
wheat notch
oh caster's companion is pretty cool
prisma ravine
That's new
formal quartz
Wow that sounds broken
wheat notch
it's ludens except better
why is liandrys worse. than old liandrys.
it used to be 10%dmg amp....
horizon looks so broken wtf
FOR 2700??
formal quartz
Horizon doesn’t apply on cc I think
prisma ravine
Oh no, however will our resident artillery mage player cope
formal quartz
I can’t hit people
wheat notch
please dont tell me cryptbloom will be mutually exclusive with void
if it is i will kill my self
formal quartz
I don’t see why void>cryptblook
wheat notch
they both build out of jewel so i assume it will be but i dont want to imagine that
formal quartz
Isn’t it objectively better?
formal quartz
Ah
prisma ravine
It'll be mutually exclusive
sullen crystal
that's sick
prisma ravine
you can ride rift herald now?
OwO
formal quartz
Yea probably like ad % pen
prisma ravine
But yeah, that looks fun
sullen crystal
dont think I like the void camps though
prisma ravine
Everyone gets to be Sion
sullen crystal
giving red/blue to the whole team sounds slightly good
prisma ravine
Red is insane
sullen crystal
interesting baron changes too
prisma ravine
Blue is meh
Blue will usually only be good on like 2 people
And you can already get it on 2
sullen crystal
map changes are wild
prisma ravine
Also we have found the new first item for Draven players
Hubris bout to have 100% pick rate on draven
formal quartz
I don’t play adc so I didn’t bother reading them lol, are any of them more than just different variations of Damage?
sullen crystal
oh support item changes, didn't expect that
formal quartz
The one that makes a statue
Oh that
dapper kite
dapper kite
magic res sunfire is kinda based
dapper kite
i liked gargoyles on health stacking champions
wheat notch
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
dapper kite
you gotta understand, i started this game as a sion main
wheat notch
CAN I KILL A TANK AS A TREAT PLEEEASE
formal quartz
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
Ngl this looks terrible?
sullen crystal
wait
wheat notch
bro im never killing anyone anymore
formal quartz
If a tank buys this that means you’re super ahead or team full of ap
wheat notch
FON IS 110 MR NOW LOL?
formal quartz
Yeah they’ll always just buy fon
wheat notch
bro im going to kill my self
sullen crystal
wait they removed ludens??
formal quartz
Yeah there’s a new ludens
sullen crystal
where
dapper kite
wait a second
sullen crystal
also goodbye stopwatch ig lmao
formal quartz
Castor companion
dapper kite
does the new Jak’Sho increse all bonus resists?
sullen crystal
oh sure
formal quartz
Malignance is going to make kass perma banned isn’t it
wheat notch
Oh wow liandry doesn’t scale with ap
it 'scales' because of the dmg amp
which is the best part
but they nerfed it from before lol
prisma ravine
FON IS 110 MR NOW LOL?
Wouldnt be preseason if it wasnt league of tanks
formal quartz
Yeah liandry looks terrible
wheat notch
liandry looks busted idk about u
im always going Companion -> Liandry -> Rabs/HF/Void
formal quartz
0 magic pen seems idk
wheat notch
worst part ab these changes is rabadons still has a dog shit build path
they couldve given us amp tome blasting wand needless rod again
sigh
formal quartz
Yea should be armguard rod into zhonyas ring
formal quartz
My decrepit fingers can’t use an active
prisma ravine
Tiamat being back is sick
wheat notch
oh it's all on pbe already
time to spam practice tool for 4 hours
if practice tool is down i will cry
prisma ravine
Ok so
Im thinking you buy Tiamat on assassins like Talon and Kha
But you dont complete it
sullen crystal
also terminus is sick
prisma ravine
Profane Hydra is kinda mid
As a first item
Its only good as something to build Tiamat into
sullen crystal
I think kha eats good with cyclosword and opportunity
prisma ravine
Its half of the mythic ghostblade
formal quartz
But it still exists right?
prisma ravine
The other half, out of combat MS and %MS active is what Ghostblade has
formal quartz
So they kept ghost blade and made half of it too?
night marsh
zed stonks increasing with no stopwatch
also why do they keep making support so crazy lol
riftmaker glow up seems better
gwen Q should be healing a fuckton now
actually nevermind, I see now
they made it so you only get the omnivamp off combat with enemy champions
which means you can't sustain in lane anymore with leeching leer
FoN seems absurd now though