#League of Legends

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formal quartz
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Now can we do protobelt next?

severe cairn
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nah they need belt

prisma ravine
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Belt predates mythics

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And it wasnt an issue

humble glacier
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they need to

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revert protobelt 🙂

formal quartz
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I see how it is mages gets it it’s fair but when adc or bruisers gets it’s bad

slim terrace
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but it's ap assassins usually not mages nyaruhodo

prisma ravine
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Yeah

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Protobelt doesnt remove weaknesses the way Galeforce does

formal quartz
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I knew ya’ll point that out

humble glacier
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they still need to revert protobelt

formal quartz
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I also forgot to mention ad assassin

humble glacier
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so it can waveclear

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i miss it

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so much

formal quartz
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If ap assassin gets it it’s fair, but if ad assassin, adc, or bruiser gets it it’s unfair

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There fixed nyaruhodo

prisma ravine
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I mean it was fine on ad assassins

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Bruisers broke it

wheat notch
formal quartz
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So you’re telling me I need to wait for an ap bruiser to break protobelt Hahaa

wheat notch
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not to worry

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someone'll find a way

humble glacier
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unrelated

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is

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zhonyas a mythic?

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did i miss some patch recently?

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it feels like the writer of gameplay thoughts thinks zhonyas is mythic i think

wheat notch
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No, they're just saying that they acknowledge Zhonya's is an extremely powerful, gameplay warping item, but they won't cut it like they will Galeforce because it existed beforehand

humble glacier
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ah ty

wheat notch
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np

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blay? @prisma ravine

prisma ravine
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You wanna play some league?

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Sure

wheat notch
prisma ravine
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Wanna do voice or?

wheat notch
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I can do voice

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league or the gc?

prisma ravine
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GC ig?

dapper kite
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i was wondering what the call was for

sullen crystal
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so apparently ezreal is just able to nearly 1 shot with ludens and lich bane from across the screen

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very epic and fun as a melee character

prisma ravine
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Did he get the W on you?

sullen crystal
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he still does significant damage even without the W

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Q and E is all he needs to chunk

wheat notch
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@prisma ravine just took kennen being broken Hahaa

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to get a chest

formal quartz
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I lost track of how many chests I have

prisma ravine
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Nice

wheat notch
formal quartz
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oh I have a lot of keys I just don't bother opening chests

prisma ravine
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... why

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Wtf

formal quartz
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at first I was lazy but when it hit like 10 I just wanted to see how long I can go for

slim terrace
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won a 4v5 where they were trash talking from minute 1

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kek fuckin w

severe cairn
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dude

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they changed zed's icons

sullen crystal
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changed a few characters yeah

wheat notch
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jayces stuff is nice except the way the ult completely contrasts the current forms colors pisses me off

wheat notch
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the way slang has changed this thumbnail is very funny to me

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"what's league? ass"

slim terrace
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didn't play this perfect but I'm so glad I was sitting on top of the fuckin base man lmao

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saved the game by 1 auto

wheat notch
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gp is scaling

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he didn't outscale

wheat notch
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tbh im thinking about iut

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why the FUCK did they give ludens the mpen passive and liandrys the haste passive

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the anti tank item does not get the anti tank stat and the poke item does not get the poke stat ? ?

prisma ravine
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Burst damage vs sustained damage

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Ludens was supposed to be more of a burst mage item than a poke item

wheat notch
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give it ap then

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or give them both pen

prisma ravine
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Oddly enough they didnt want overlap and idk why none of them have ap

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Realistically its moot now though since mythics are getting axed

wheat notch
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and crown too

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everfrost is +10 ap crown is +8ap and +1%ms

prisma ravine
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Oh wait youre right

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No overlap then ig?

formal quartz
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Nice

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Then again what are they doing?

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Just lopping off the bonus?

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Because that seems pretty lazy

prisma ravine
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No like

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There wont be mythics anymore

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And theyll be reworked to work as legendaries

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And some are getting deleted

formal quartz
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I see

prisma ravine
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Galeforce is getting deleted e.g.

wheat notch
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never did i imagine going 5 up on fizz

wheat notch
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clash g1 going well

prisma ravine
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Which swain skin NyanGun

wheat notch
prisma ravine
wheat notch
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its literally hsi 2nd best

prisma ravine
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Top 3 are Hextech, Tyrant and Winterblessed

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Id even put Northern Front over Crystal Rose

wheat notch
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midtech

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its tyrant > rose >blessed > front

prisma ravine
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Midtech

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Smh bad taste

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Hextech is great

wheat notch
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midtech

prisma ravine
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Sleek robot birds + silverfox Swain + Artificer aesthetic

wheat notch
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the only good hextech skin is poppy and annie

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everyone else looks mid

prisma ravine
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Thats even more cap smh

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Hextech Kassadin is sick

wheat notch
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ziggs sucks

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idk what other hextechs there are

prisma ravine
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Also idk I just find Crystal Rose Swain to be kinda eh

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He looks too young

wheat notch
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he looks like he could be my father

prisma ravine
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Smh why do league players all have daddy issues

slim terrace
wheat notch
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Clearly I should've just picked Swain G2

wheat notch
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but i think id place it above blessed below rose

prisma ravine
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God

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I wish they would bring back the ARAM adc nerfs

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So annoying how broken they are

wheat notch
night marsh
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It’s amazing how my opinion of briar went from dogshit champ to actual aids to play vs

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All in the same patch!

formal quartz
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2 and a half cc bruiser with engage

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Idk how that can be dogshit

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Like there bad players ofc

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But that’s just a recipe for obnoxious champ

night marsh
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well the self taunt is a huge downside ofc and you cant switch targets even after your ult

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but that champ just does way too much damage and healing

wheat notch
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the healing is wild yeah

formal quartz
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Vlad problem wow who would’ve known

severe cairn
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I also just

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don't know what they want people to build on her

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is she a bruiser?

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her visual design implies assassin/full damage

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but her abilities would want her to be at least a little bit tanky

night marsh
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botrk goredrinker with a 40% damage reducation on her e

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shit is actual so cancer lmao

humble glacier
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i saw one with steraks gain a 2nd healthbar

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does her E oneshot waves?

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would i be able to play E max Briar top and just ult down map off cooldown?

sullen crystal
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possibly

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her E is fucked if you can full charge it

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I assume it works like sion q where cc stops it

prisma ravine
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@wheat notch

severe cairn
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buff lee sin and buff gp

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why

prisma ravine
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Lee isnt dominating pro play and this is the worlds patch

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Thats really it, Lee is Riots golden child, they always want him to at least be good at worlds, and ideally dominant

slim terrace
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ziggs getting buffed hahaa

prisma ravine
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No idea on GP though

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Its also perplexing that they said that theyre happy he is back on crit because like

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... crit GP is much less healthy?

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At best you get to play vs a slot machine where sometimes you just lose

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At worst you get oneshot 100% of the time from a distance

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Where you have little you can do

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Crit GP when its strong is like an assassin who doesnt have to go in and can also just say "no" to CC

night marsh
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wintry finally going to hit challenger

slim terrace
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gp is genuinely busted but he's flashy so it's probably another lee sin effect

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gimgoon on gp was a treat to watch when fpx won worlds

prisma ravine
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I mean he is fine now actually

night marsh
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all of the champions getting buffed on that list look like montage/LoL pro play champs (outside ap nunu)

prisma ravine
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But I just dont get why they dont just push him back to the bruiser build

night marsh
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what brusider build

prisma ravine
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Its still flashy, but also healthier

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Trinity into w/e

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No idea what it would be now tbh

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It was stuff like Steraks iirc

night marsh
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wasnt it like triforce steraks crit

prisma ravine
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No Kaisa nerf is gonna get people mad

night marsh
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and armor pen

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because his barrels still did a shit ton of damage

prisma ravine
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I dont think you went crit back then

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Other than maybe as a second item

night marsh
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I dont remember gp ever being like tankyish

prisma ravine
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Because it was too RNG and you wanted to be more in their face to brawl

night marsh
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or going traditional bruiser items

prisma ravine
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I mean he wasnt tanky-ish but he was like

night marsh
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post rework

prisma ravine
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Jayce/Pantheon/Riven-style build

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Just with Trinity

night marsh
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wait

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is briar going to be allowed for worlds

prisma ravine
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No

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I dont think Naafiri is either

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But Briar 100% isnt

slim terrace
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not having naafiri worlds legal after this long feels weird, do they usually not allow champs for that long

night marsh
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probably better to be on the safe side

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don't want another panth fiasco

prisma ravine
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And I think one of the regions hasnt

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But Im not 100%

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Also yknow what I think is stupid

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They keep buffing Lee for every worlds because "oh he is so flashy and fun to watch"

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But Zed, arguably the most hype pro play champ when he is good

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Has never gotten buffed

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For worlds

slim terrace
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I think it's a combination of that and every pro jungler knows how to play lee

formal quartz
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Wait is it worlds again already?

formal quartz
prisma ravine
prisma ravine
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Lee however can

night marsh
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nah fuck zed

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at least I can react to lee's shit

prisma ravine
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Good luck reacting to dash in R-Q-Q-E

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At least you can react to Zeds burst combo and likely even survive

wheat notch
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sigh

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Ok maybe he's not fine he has a negative wr

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I hope it's an E buff or smthg

formal quartz
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kill towers at 50%

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"you're welcome" -Riot

slim terrace
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I didn't even notice the enemy bot had over half of their deaths until panth pointed it out kekw

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they did keep on getting caught out ig

formal quartz
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who... who's the botlane?

slim terrace
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syndra senna

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idk why senna built like that tbh

formal quartz
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her ward score must be abysmal

slim terrace
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26 if I'm reading it right

formal quartz
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yeah that's pretty bad lol no wonder why they got caught so much

prisma ravine
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Damn is that the Ziggs prodigy Wintry?

wheat notch
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yeah i'm washed

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was panicking so hard i fucked up killing yuumi and didnt notice yone tping on my screen ICANT

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was a good game though

prisma ravine
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I dont think there was any way to survive there

slim terrace
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it's satisfying to see zeri yuumi die

wheat notch
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so I should've just gone thru bush and walk through blue's area into mid

prisma ravine
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You were still in sight range of the one minion that died above you I think

wheat notch
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shrug

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its possible i shouldn't've even gone upwards

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because yuumi wasn't going to like. kill me

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so i just walk like this

prisma ravine
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I think hed catch up if you tried that

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Since youd be seen going there

wheat notch
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shrug

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he was tping into that bush a good bit before i crashed into him

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map awareness issue

slim terrace
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hey the important part is that you killed the zeri

wheat notch
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truege

wheat notch
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reddit ICANT

wheat notch
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fully unrelated but i have decided to go fully on the cringe factor for my spreadsheet 🔥

night marsh
wheat notch
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u wouldnt get it

formal quartz
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I can forgive the yanfei cause she throws bombs

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But I draw the line at IP and SP

wheat notch
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They're literally my League usernames

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wdym

formal quartz
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Konami knocking on your door rn

prisma ravine
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Oh hey, Saffron

wheat notch
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Yeah I saw the twitter post that and I was like "i gotta cop this"

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New update for One Step From Eden for our 3 Year Anniversary has new sprites for our main girl Saffron (and Reva)!
https://t.co/GskPNieu7f

Thanks for three years of love! 💛

#pixelart #gaming #indiedev

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prisma ravine
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I didnt even know you played OSFE

wheat notch
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I've followed it since 2019

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I don't remember how but I got the demo and went like hell yeah

prisma ravine
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Pog

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I do like it

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MMBN is fun nyaruhodo

wheat notch
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yeah

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it got stale for me quick though ICANT

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only 13 hours

formal quartz
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For what?

wheat notch
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my friend is quite lowelo apparently

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i have never gotten this fed before

gray sandal
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gj bullying iron

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proud of u

slim terrace
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wintry dropkicking kindergarteners over here

prisma ravine
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Not even deathless smh

dapper kite
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gotta int a bit to keep the game going

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gotta lose money to make money, as it were

severe cairn
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delete: Riven
rework: Shyvana or Shaco
revert: Mordekaiser

prisma ravine
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Delete: Lee
Rework: Vi
Revert: Uhhhhhhhhhhh

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Idk Kha'Zix maybe? I can be trusted with W applying passive >:)

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Really though I cant think of a rework I think didnt improve the champ that wasnt already reverted

severe cairn
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I put 100k mastery into pre-rework Morde

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and then they just... removed all skill expression, removed everything to do with commanding souls, and completely changed his identity

prisma ravine
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I mean Idk if Morde really had much skill expression, and I played a lot of pre-rework Morde

severe cairn
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there was a lot, trust me

prisma ravine
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But yeah like, who had a rework I hated

severe cairn
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did you play pre-rework aatrox or irelia?

prisma ravine
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Yes

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I didnt particularly enjoy either

severe cairn
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yeah I think the only reason people miss old aatrox is because of the revive and the wings

night marsh
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delete: Yuumi
Rework: Illaoi
Revert: Fiora

prisma ravine
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Why revert Fiora?

night marsh
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I miss the old fiora

prisma ravine
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Just play Yi

night marsh
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not the same feeling

prisma ravine
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Eh fair I guess

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Even if I cant agree

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I think new Fiora is way more interesting

wheat notch
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oh its maintenance day

slim terrace
prisma ravine
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... ok why Katarina

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I was an old Katarina onetrick

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That champ was 💤 compared to new Kat

wheat notch
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delete - zeri/leblanc/ksante in that order sunglas
rework - zyra
revert - no one tbh but if i was forced id do swain

slim terrace
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so I have mastery 7 off old kat and it gives people unrealistic expectations when I roll her on aram lul

wheat notch
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actually i just remembered zeri exists

prisma ravine
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I mean fair though, I just think new Kat is like

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So much more fun

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Even if you suck at her

slim terrace
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I think she's super fun but I'm actually just terrible at her

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I could try to spam her in normals to relearn her lol

prisma ravine
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Fair

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I used to onetrick her

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So I still can vaguely play her

slim terrace
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I also used to one trick her but I'm constantly overestimating my damage output

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either cause I'm not hitting the daggers right or cause old W was such a crutch, probably both

formal quartz
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most reverts are just going to be champions people played a lot lol

prisma ravine
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Probably both, mostly the former though

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Her daggers are like a lot of her damage

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But it also relies on the enemy being bad tbh

slim terrace
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kinda, but it's also funny to see what players can get away with in high elo with that champ

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she has a ridiculous ceiling

prisma ravine
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Oh yeah

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Like some people being able to place daggers optimally in split seconds is crazy

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It feels like real anime bullshit

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Like some fucking Naruto third Hokage bullshit

wheat notch
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i love pre30 normals

slim terrace
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I've especially been seeing a lot of katevolved clips cause everyone is bootcamping in Korea

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watching him 1v5 is crazy

slim terrace
wheat notch
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hes afking in base

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but we ffed

slim terrace
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as a meme?

wheat notch
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wdym

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he just doesnt wanna get hit with leaverbuster lol

slim terrace
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oh I thought you were on the other team for some reason lmao

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yugioh player moment

wheat notch
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God I wish I was

slim terrace
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ironic name on that rengar too, that's funny

wheat notch
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yeah smurfs r weirdos

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not me tho, I'm perfectly normal clueless (<- person who constantly gets in fights about her favourite scrunkly)

prisma ravine
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I just remembered a champ I want reverted

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Xerath

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Old Xerath was so much more fun dont @ me

severe cairn
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they made the game even worse

formal quartz
prisma ravine
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Yep

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The W to become a tank and W again to get a speedboost to reposition

sinful frost
night marsh
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Holy fuck why do they always choose the worst decision

sinful frost
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Except it's actually not a real prisoners' island

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It's more like a prisoner transfer

severe cairn
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even worse change

wheat notch
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good chagne

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tbh

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I've seen this ping be used properly 0 times and I just naturally associate the sound effect with toxicity now

formal quartz
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I’ve actually seen it used effectively

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Many times

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But then again jung pinging “I’m coming” is just as good proobably

sullen crystal
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yeah I've never seen that ping used for anything other than people being toxic

prisma ravine
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Mmh

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The "on my way" ping just fulfills the intended function and has for ages

wheat notch
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I've seen none of the new pings be used now that I think about it

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It's like what

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Hold, Bait, All-In,

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No Vision Here,

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Vision Needed

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and 1 more I can't remember

formal quartz
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Vision was the only ping that needed to be added

wheat notch
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Vision was already a ping

formal quartz
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Well it wasn’t added until relatively recently

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But before the 8 wheel yea

wheat notch
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It's not on the 8 wheel

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you still need to bind that shit

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smh

formal quartz
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It’s not but I’m saying it’s newer than the og 4

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I know I should bind it but I’ve been lazy

formal quartz
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Fuck that ping btw

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I always misping that when I ping the careful/danger ping

wheat notch
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it's push

formal quartz
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Oh no wait not danger ping

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It was missing ping

slim terrace
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I use some of the new pings but I feel like it's harder than ever to do a regular ping, especially when I want to ping something like an item cooldown

humble glacier
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Delete Morgana
Revert LB
Rework Yuumi

because why not

slim terrace
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silence back on lb sounds difficult lol

prisma ravine
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Thats not the last verison of LB

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The last version of LB was "summon clone elsewhere on the map"

slim terrace
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wait lmao I forgot about this one you're right

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nidalee could do that too though muugu

prisma ravine
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... what?

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I dont think Nidalee ever had a clone power

slim terrace
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she didn't, there was a glitch where she appeared briefly on the map on places where she just wasn't

prisma ravine
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Oooh, that

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Didnt a lot of champs have that?

slim terrace
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idk but iirc she was the most common cause of that glitch

prisma ravine
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I am reminded of a famous(?) clip where someone gets jumpscared by a Lee and flashes away despite Lee being bot

slim terrace
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that certainly was a time

prisma ravine
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I miss those bugs

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They were funny

humble glacier
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yeah i actually really liked the lb assassin rework

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more than the current/past version of her

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I dont really care to delete any champ tbh, I chose Morgana because league would be different as she is the only source of black shield iirc?

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and if i ever got to like rework any one champ myself id pick yuumi, but i also dont like the "beginner char" philosophy sooo....

wheat notch
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all mediocre

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sigh

severe cairn
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bee malz is peak tho

wheat notch
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If I ever buy a Malzahar skin it's going to be Battle Boss

severe cairn
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that's fair

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I just wish his animations weren't as dated

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otherwise that'd be my go-to

wheat notch
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I just remember the Q and Ultimate looking insane on that skin

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my alt's shop blows too

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To be fair I haven't seen Graceful Phoenix Seraphine

sinful frost
slim terrace
slim terrace
wheat notch
slim terrace
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one of the symptoms is lack of taste pensivecowboybread

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I can't believe you'd say that about twink xerath

prisma ravine
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I mean the dragon swain skin is kinda whatever

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The rest I do like though

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And even the Swain skin really just suffers from a bad case of "not being Hextech Swain"

slim terrace
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ur right it isn't hextech Swain cause it's better

prisma ravine
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Hextech is his best skin

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And its not even close

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I know some people like Tyrant Swain better (theyre wrong)

dapper kite
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2 skins i would get

prisma ravine
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Blitz and Thresh?

dapper kite
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garen and aatrox

prisma ravine
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Huh, really?

dapper kite
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idk how good the thresh skin is and i already have enough blitz skins

prisma ravine
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Fair

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Though its a pretty good Thresh skin imo

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Used to be the standard before High Noon

dapper kite
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i have like

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championship

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💀

sullen crystal
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mine was full of champs I barely play lmfao

prisma ravine
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It does that sometimes sadly

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Wait do you even play bot?

slim terrace
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rip

sullen crystal
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very rarely

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only when my friends dont want to play it

prisma ravine
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Those are deadass 5 adc skins wtf

sullen crystal
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yep

slim terrace
dapper kite
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assigned bot by league

prisma ravine
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Lets see if my "my shop" is any good

sullen crystal
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all I wanted was perseus pantheon to complete my pantheon collection 😔

dapper kite
prisma ravine
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Well maybe Aeri is just a bottom and the system got confused

slim terrace
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bottom PepePoint

prisma ravine
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Wow, my selection is ass

slim terrace
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rip these are all decent but I want none of them

prisma ravine
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2 750 skins and a 520 skin wtf

slim terrace
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I have a better skin on all these champs

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post screenshot

prisma ravine
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And a 975 skin that should be a 520 skin tbqh

sullen crystal
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arcade ahri kinda goated

prisma ravine
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Like bro

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This is the worst selection here

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Theres 2 good skins in total, both for champs I already have better skins on

slim terrace
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what even is the second to right skin

sullen crystal
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I want to say a renekton skin?

slim terrace
sullen crystal
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ok valid

slim terrace
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it's not renekton apparently

sullen crystal
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twitch?

slim terrace
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lunar guardian khazix???

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that's kha???

prisma ravine
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Its Kha yes

sullen crystal
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wack

dapper kite
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my first guess woulda been warwick or cho except i know what the warwick one looks like

slim terrace
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yeah this skin is mid city unless you really like the water effects

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everything is pointless compared to mecha kha anyways though nyaruhodo

prisma ravine
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The skin is alright

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But I have 3 better Kha skins

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Including, yes, Mecha Kha

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And I have High Noon Yasuo already

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So like

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... these suck

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I wouldve taken Inkshadow Kaisa (since I play a lot of her actually) or any of the good Zed skins

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Or hell, gimme Odyssey Kha

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That one Id take actually because I think its neat

severe cairn
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I got a skin for all my faves

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but I already have a better skin for each

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🫠

prisma ravine
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Idk Coven (?) Ahri is pretty sick

severe cairn
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I have spirit blossom and arcad

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e

wheat notch
prisma ravine
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Im not huge on Arcade Ahri personally

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I think shes kinda mid

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Also hot take: I think it was only as popular as it was because the e animation was super p2w

chilly ivy
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sigh do i log in to just check the shop

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since i have recently decided to have healthy habits

severe cairn
#

back then ahri's Q hitbox was very honest

sinful frost
slim terrace
severe cairn
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and arcade's was worse

sinful frost
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I just collect skins on discount now

chilly ivy
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it's not like i have rp

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and i've avoided the hellscape for over a month

slim terrace
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just look at your shop and dip

prisma ravine
chilly ivy
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holy fuck these are good

sinful frost
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that's how they get you

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they don't care if you don't play

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as long as you give them money

prisma ravine
#

Wtf

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Why do you have the good ones?

chilly ivy
#

:p

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i picked up swain and naut

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already have sand xerath and i like it

sinful frost
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just don't buy the good skins

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then get them when they're in your shoppe

chilly ivy
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i'm still miffed they always give me a lux skin even if don't play her as much anymore and i have like 6 skins on her

prisma ravine
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The swain skin is so good

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I wanted that one >:[

sinful frost
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I need to play enough to manipulate my shop

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Give me skins for specific champs

severe cairn
#

alright

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I played 1 briar game

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the champ is very fun

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however

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she is flawed at a conceptual level and she will be impossible to play at high elos unless they change this

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her E does absolutely nothing for her kit and her Q should be able to cancel her frenzy

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she has zero mobility, negative mobility even because of her taunt

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she can't sidestep for shit

prisma ravine
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Ironically she is currently doing better in high elo than low elo

severe cairn
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I'd give it a patch before deciding

prisma ravine
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I also dont think q cancelling frenzy makes sense

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That makes getting in harder

severe cairn
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if you Q on a minion I mean

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just, any other way to cancel her frenzy

prisma ravine
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I mean you can redirect your frenzy at least but ig?

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Idk, she seems very strong to me as is

severe cairn
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she's definitely good, she's just frustrating

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and she has a very low skill ceiling

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I could have just been itemizing wrong though

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I tried stride black cleaver

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maybe tri-force bork is better

prisma ravine
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Idk if she has a low skill ceiling either

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Its stride cleaver or gore cleaver

severe cairn
#

I could see that

night marsh
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If you didn’t have E, you’d be forced to keep fighting unwinnable fights

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I think it’s very fucking dumb that you can’t switch targets if you ult someone then w

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Or just in general

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Should be the closet person, not the initial target

severe cairn
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I think her W recast should be put on her R tbh

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like for the R frenzy

humble glacier
prisma ravine
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Bro wtf

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Kaisa is sick

wheat notch
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u only say this bc u play kaisa

formal quartz
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I love being one shot by a slippery adc

prisma ravine
#

I think shes genuinely a cool design

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Shes only lame with quickblades because it turns her E into Kha ult without a cooldown, but I also think Quickblades should be deleted

gray sandal
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a lot of things can be said about kaisa's design but cool isn't one of them

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she's fun to play though. if you're into that sorta thing

prisma ravine
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Nah its definitely very cool

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Assassin marksman hybrid with a unique build and a decent degree of flexibility while maintaining the close-range core of marksmen is nice

humble glacier
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because she is an assassin/marksman hybrid with a skill that outranges most other spells in the game and the ability to build any item in the game

prisma ravine
#

Good luck with Tank Kaisa

humble glacier
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you say that but ive seen stridebreaker kaisa and thats one step away from sunfire cape

prisma ravine
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Also tbh having a diverse set of items you can build is good

humble glacier
#

it is but idk if

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2 mage items guinsoos and an ad item all at once

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is balanced

prisma ravine
#

I mean it can be balanced

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Whether it is this moment is up in the air, but she seems to be reasonable now

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Its not even really like she does hybrid damage, its mostly magic now

wheat notch
wheat notch
#

WORST GAME

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LIKE AT LEAST ZERI STARTED PLAYING AGAIN BUT IM LATE FOR CLASSSSS

dapper kite
#

average darius enjoyer

night marsh
#

Gojo👤4,700 HP💪329 Armor🤷‍♂️201 MR and 6'3💦 Six Eyes🚫Limitless 🛡 Infinity🧱Has Airborne🌪Cooldown is only☝second too🕐 Red, blue🧙‍♂️hollow technique purple 󠀀

formal quartz
#

Gojo?

dapper kite
#

jjk

formal quartz
#

Ah

wheat notch
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOO XERAAAAAAAATH

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NOOOO

wheat notch
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i love when my top and jg are inting

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bc someones sniping the enemy jg

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like la dee da i have 3sec delay no map cover im surely not inviting you to just stream snipe me

#

riot partner btw

prisma ravine
#

Oh

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Odyssey Kha is on sale

#

Do I get the last good Kha skin?

wheat notch
#

do u want it

prisma ravine
#

Kinda?

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As Ive said, its the last good skin Im missing

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But I already have 3

slim terrace
#

why need another skin when mecha kha is the only one you need nyaruhodo

slim terrace
#

this game was really impossible rip

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j4 started axiom ark and did most of nothing the first part of the game, then they just sat back real far later on and stalled with morg e until they got a pick nyaruhodo

wheat notch
slim terrace
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50/50

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not like this

wheat notch
slim terrace
#

is that a draven top

wheat notch
#

yes

severe cairn
#

is this blood moon?

prisma ravine
#

Coven/Old God

severe cairn
#

man skins are just boring

formal quartz
#

I know you meant “man, skins” but I first read it as “man skins” lol

prisma ravine
#

Idk I kinda like the Akali and Morde skin

night marsh
#

akali just doesnt fit at all

prisma ravine
#

Oh I agree

night marsh
#

like the character and the skin feel out of place

prisma ravine
#

But its at least a Prestige skin that actually looks good

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Instead of just being the same but gold

night marsh
#

you wouldnt be able to tell it's coven from looking at the SA

prisma ravine
#

Bad Coven skin

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Good Akali skin

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Is my rating

night marsh
#

also wait

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is this her 2nd prestige skin?

prisma ravine
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Technically third, but yes

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Practically its her second one

severe cairn
#

don't really care about prestiges anyways

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the only one I thought was objectively better than base was Project Irelia

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but that's because they made Project Irelia really bad

prisma ravine
#

Same, but I have a bunch of gemstones and fuck all to use them on lmao

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And I like this one

sullen crystal
#

I fw the morde skin

prisma ravine
#

Damn they gutted Leblancs attack speed ratio (good)

sullen crystal
#

how long have they done that colour coded stuff

prisma ravine
#

You mean the "why we are nerfing this champ" thing?

sullen crystal
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like the

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pro play average play etc

prisma ravine
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Ye that

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... 3-4 years or so

sullen crystal
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oh lmfao

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I have not paid that much attention to the graphic then

prisma ravine
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Looks like 3 years

severe cairn
#

they're buffing LB's AP build

prisma ravine
#

Eh its probably a net nerf still

#

5% ratios dont make up for mana issues

sullen crystal
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weird that they dont do the colour coding for buffa

severe cairn
#

the problem is shiv hullbreaker

sullen crystal
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and yeah it's a nerf cause of the mana

prisma ravine
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Buffs are, officially, "if theyre weak everywhere"

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Hence the colour coding wouldnt make sense

sullen crystal
#

ok fair

prisma ravine
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Of course thats officially

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Unofficially everyone knows theyre buffing Lee for pro play nyaruhodo

severe cairn
#

terrible change after terrible change

formal quartz
#

I have never seen that ping used outside of toxicity

severe cairn
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but this doesn't solve the problem

formal quartz
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What problem though

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Now if they want to be toxic they have to type it out instead of spam ping death timers which is a punishable offense

gray sandal
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tfw can't ping the idiot dying to ganks when they have full wards now

formal quartz
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Okay that’s the only thing I’ll miss lol

chilly ivy
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i see no problem with this

severe cairn
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can't ping your jungler's smite when it's down

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😔

chilly ivy
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ok and?

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if they're bad, they'll still go do drake without it

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or baron

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if they're good, that is not an issue

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again, like bio, i have never seen the feature to be used in a positive way

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there hasn't been a situation where you'd ping a jungler to notify that their smite is down

severe cairn
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anecdotal, I guess

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but they're doing nothing to stop the real, genuine issues that are crippling the game

formal quartz
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No smurfs? Good luck with that

chilly ivy
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i really don't see why a change that reduces toxicity at least a little while simple to implement should receive the criticism of "hey you're not fixing the game"

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it's not really what they're doing here

severe cairn
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okay fine

#

yeah

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it's a good change

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thanks, Riot

#

I just don't think the bare minimum should be applauded

formal quartz
#

Tbf I don’t think anyone is applauding it

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More like I guess it’s something

chilly ivy
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idt a change that took them an hour to make and is positive should be called a terrible change after terrible change

severe cairn
#

Jesus Christ

#

I am sorry

#

please forgive me

formal quartz
#

We’re not bullying you it’s okay to be in disagreement

#

You can think it’s a bad change I can think it’s a good change

#

More people need to be okay with being in disagreement

severe cairn
#

I'm sorry, I read you and Solar's responses as hostile

formal quartz
#

I do apologize about that if it did sound like I was

wheat notch
prisma ravine
#

... oh is this on your alt

wheat notch
#

yeah lmao

#

what did you think it was

prisma ravine
#

For a second I thought this was your main account

wheat notch
#

2 mil points on ziggs but just hit mastery 5

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😭 😭

slim terrace
#

that would be impressive

wheat notch
#

First ranked of the new patch

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Get stomped

sullen crystal
#

hm

chilly ivy
#

Smite can no longer be cast on minions and pets
yay they finally realised the dmg nerf was stupid

sullen crystal
#

also lmao

slim terrace
night marsh
#

K'Sante👤4,700 HP💪329 Armor🤷‍♂️201 MR💦 Unstoppable🚫A Shield 🛡 Goes over walls🧱Has Airborne🌪Cooldown is only☝second too🕐 It costs 15 Mana🧙‍♂️ 45% AS on Ult 😜

wheat notch
#

just 3 left

chilly ivy
#

soon

#

wintry will have 2 honse

wheat notch
timber patio
formal quartz
#

Wtf are you doing here spat

wheat notch
#

he loves newjeans

timber patio
#

I dont

#

I love league

night marsh
#

🧢

timber patio
#

Best worlds song

timber patio
prisma ravine
#

Phreak is now balance team lead

#

Not sure how I feel about this, he has had some ??? takes especially on statistics, but he seems to have actually realised he was wrong recently in that regard

#

But I also want assassins to be good again

#

Especially in pro

night marsh
#

Balance can’t get much worse than it already is anyways

#

Riot just has a problem@admitting that they’re wrong on things

#

Mythics taking 2 years to get rotated out and certain reworks/champ states are just jokes

#

Biggest issue is how they’re handeling soloq rn

wheat notch
gray sandal
# prisma ravine ~~Especially in pro~~

I dunno if that'll ever happen again tbh. Pro play environment is way too coordinated for an assassin to function (unless said assassin is unreasonably broken)

#

Hm well ig Leblanc is the one exception to this for some reason

formal quartz
#

qiyana always pops up

prisma ravine
#

Eh

#

She had like 13 games total in the last 2 years

#

Qiyana unironically could use a buff rn tbh

wheat notch
#

its over

slim terrace
#

wtf hater

#

also this has nothing to do with league smh

wheat notch
#

its in the league client

slim terrace
#

grats fam

wheat notch
#

gm this season copium

#

i just need 800lp

slim terrace
#

I baylieve

gray sandal
prisma ravine
#

@wheat notch Ziggs buff incoming

#

Q bombs detection radius is now like 60 units bigger

#

Err, 30 units

wheat notch
#

spreading misinfo

#

just another day in the life of UNO vven..

prisma ravine
severe cairn
#

yayyyyy

#

let's nerf Zed as a whole and then do nothing to buff the playstyle they want him to play

prisma ravine
#

Complaining works apparently

formal quartz
#

wait was zed even good?

prisma ravine
#

He was popular and had a high ban rate in solo Q

#

As for if he was good ... eh

formal quartz
#

yea I see him banned a lot but he seemed so

#

I guess feast or famine which is every assassin but seemed more famine more often for zed

severe cairn
#

Zed had a toxic playstyle where he'd max W first and then just

prisma ravine
#

Hes really strong in the lategame if he can get to the lategame and farm enough gold until lategame

severe cairn
#

W 5 times in a fight and kill everyone

prisma ravine
#

Second actually

severe cairn
#

right

prisma ravine
#

You max Q first, W second

severe cairn
#

but now Zed is just worse

formal quartz
#

ah true he can get slippery

prisma ravine
#

He isnt particularly feast or famine nowadays

#

He is more

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AD Aurelion Sol

severe cairn
#

because they don't want him to be the single-target assassin that he used to be

#

I remember when he did damage

#

before 25 minutes

formal quartz
#

the only time I felt he was oppressive was when he didnt need to land q to do dmg

severe cairn
#

there was a time when Zed had a bad lategame and he was just

#

midgame powerhouse

prisma ravine
#

Part of it is just items

#

Duskblade is good

severe cairn
#

yeah, Ravenous Hydra does that I guess

prisma ravine
#

Other assassin items are not

#

Typically assassins still have to buy them because theyre not very good as non-assassins

#

But Zed actaully can afford to go in a bruiser direction

#

So he does

#

Well, bruiser/AD caster

#

Hes like Jayce and Pantheon

gray sandal
#

when does the ink mage release? do we have a timeframe

#

i wanna draw circles in league

severe cairn
#

that clip of Talon with a 6 level lead on a level 9 Annie support and he had like 4 items but couldn't one-shot her with his full ult combo because he had a bruiser item instead of a 4th full damage item

#

it was tragic

prisma ravine
#

Somewhere between next month and november Id say

#

But I dont think we have confirmation

#

Realistically I hope that with this preseason they actually tackle assassin itemisation proper

formal quartz
wheat notch
#

this is a great feeling

prisma ravine
#

God Zoe in ARAM is so funny

#

Yes please let the one-shot burst champ do 15% more damage

#

I can be trusted with it >:)

#

(Fwiw I know why she gets that, but its still funny)

severe cairn
#

that Zed nerf pisses me off

#

something so irritating about seeing just a single nerf and no other consideration

night marsh
#

Spideraxe30

prisma ravine
#

Lmao Phrox calling people out with the fourth point

#

"Yall hate bruisers no matter what we do"

formal quartz
prisma ravine
#

True

#

Tbh its the same for assassins

#

People dont like when assassins do big damage, people dont like when assassin items have a lot of haste as a filler stat

#

At this point idk what people want assassins to be other than "unplayable"

severe cairn
#

just make assassin items more damage and vision control

#

so they can do their job more efficiently

#

we don't need so much haste if our job is to assassinate a target with one rotation

formal quartz
#

I feel like vast majority of the people complaining about assassins are adc

#

Which I get but like they need to be able to kill you lol

prisma ravine
#

But people complained so it got nerfed

#

Like Duskblade used to have Umbral Glaives and Prowlers effect at the same time

#

With more damage

severe cairn
#

I just miss lethality Zed

sinful frost
#

Sometimes I get the sense League players want everyone to be playing with limp ducks

#

Everything is too strong

#

Everything does too much damage

prisma ravine
#

Especially ADC players

#

(Well except for ADC, that role should be super strong)

severe cairn
#

basically my thoughts

sinful frost
#

Weird hot take
ADCs represent a relic of Dota's influence on League and should be phased out

prisma ravine
#

Less of a hot take than you would think tbh

#

But its a case of

#

"Its a bit too late to do this now innit"

severe cairn
#

here's a hot take

#

we should remove hullbreaker

prisma ravine
#

Also not much of a hot take, even hullbreaker users dont like it

severe cairn
#

the people who are good at split pushing don't even need hullbreaker that much

#

like it only encourages toxic playstyles

sinful frost
severe cairn
#

I don't want everyone to be le DPS

prisma ravine
#

Like ADCs are much less just "hehe auto from a mile away and kill you in 3 shots" nowadays

#

Kaisa has her assassin-leaning elements, Samira straight up goes in

#

Even the older champs now have more unique playstyles in part

#

But the difficulty is, how do you rework the ADC class without A, pissing off the ADC players and B, not causing so much of a disturbance to the game youll be picking up the pieces for months to come?

severe cairn
#

well for A the solution is simple

#

literally do not care about their opinions

prisma ravine
#

And we know Riot looooooves money

gray sandal
#

Just bring back flat armor pen

#

I'm tryna build brutalizer and be a 1337 player

formal quartz
prisma ravine
#

Idk how theyll solve this

#

But I am curious to see them try

#

My take is just

#

Make more assassin items

#

I think the current Zed build is fine

#

But it shouldnt be his only option

formal quartz
#

More mage items por favor

gray sandal
formal quartz
#

Just what I needed riot Hahaa

sinful frost
#

They should let assassins flex into support

formal quartz
#

That would require cc

#

Which was just pyke and panth

#

But panth was nerfed out of the role

sinful frost
#

The issue is that there's no way to make a good low-econ burst characters

formal quartz
#

Good or balanced? Because pyke was very good

sinful frost
#

And, weird as it is to say
Pigeonholing assassins into only being burst means they can't have build flexibility

sinful frost
wheat notch
#

2 rods is so ass i want my blasting wand and my tome fr

formal quartz
#

Back in my days deathcap and zhonyas was 1 item

chilly ivy
#

ok grandpa

sullen crystal
#

man

#

I keep forgetting how unenjoyable aram is

prisma ravine
#

What do you find unenjoyable about it?

sullen crystal
#

Some teams are just better than others and there's nothing you can really do about it

#

some people simply just don't want to win it feels like, they'll just keep mashing themselves against the other team and then wonder why they lost

slim terrace
#

I agree actually

#

there are some games you just lost from champ select and you just don't have enough rerolls to compensate for it

sullen crystal
#

because it's just a single lane there's no outplay potential really, you can't go around for a good play or anything

slim terrace
#

sometimes you roll a champ that fits into a comp but you can't play it at all

sullen crystal
#

some teams are really safe sitting under tower and if you have more melees than they do you just can't do anything to them

#

similar to normal league you can't choose what your team plays but at least they'll play into their role most of the time

#

in aram they just pick whatever they want and then you can't win because we have 3 tanks vs cc bot 9000 on the other team

#

I would kill for them to add arena again as a perma game mode so there's an alternative to sr and aram

#

because sometimes I want bitesized league games

slim terrace
#

honestly I kinda wish they'd remove rerolls

#

kinda gets rid of the "random" part of aram

prisma ravine
#

Oh yeah those are fair

#

I enjoy ARAM but I also just enjoy being a huge dumbass and ARAM lets you be maximum dumbass

dapper kite
#

oh yeah, youre adc playstyle is definitely suited for aram

prisma ravine
#

The guy who has played support with me on adc knows me well nyaruhodo

formal quartz
#

Aram focused accounts doesn’t help either

prisma ravine
#

You dont run into them until youre high MMR usually thankfully

dapper kite
#

you dont get them in high mmr, correct, but you do get 3 of them at the end of the season in silver 1 83 lp, first timing their champs

prisma ravine
#

True!

#

Oh right youre not gold yet

#

We can try playing some flex again some time soon

slim terrace
#

bruh this is unrated

chilly ivy
#

xerath: "omg their mid is 0/11 but is more useful than you"
also xerath:

sullen crystal
#

just actually played against the most cracked samira ever

#

it's 13 minutes and she has 2 items lmfao

#

I love characters who once they snowball you literally can't punish them

#

taric supp too 💤

wheat notch
#

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

wheat notch
#

I don't even matter in these games

#

sigh

sinful frost
formal quartz
#

Should’ve done it tournament style like boots of Ionia

sinful frost
#

Testing some Morgana buffs. Focusing on making R stronger but increasing E downtime

W
AP ratio: 14% > 17%
Monster damage: 155% > 165%

E
CD: 24-16 > 26-16

R
MS: 5-55% towards enemies > 10-60% all directions
Stun duration: 1.5 > 1.5/1.75/2
Damage: 150-300(.7 AP) >175-325(.8 AP)

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night marsh
#

I guess moving is something they dont want the enemy to do if you picks morg

formal quartz
#

What a throwback splash art

#

Also that’s a pretty huge jng buff

#

Her clear is already pretty insane

prisma ravine
#

Im confused by the runes theyre nerfing and by how much

#

Why is Electrocute getting hit harder than First Strike?

sinful frost
#

please stop picking electrocute for burst damage
pick first strike instead
it's even less damage but you get paid

#

it's about behavior

sinful frost
formal quartz
#

Buffing jng only to nerf them again tis the life of jng

dapper kite
#

perhaps the worst of his tierlists yet

wheat notch
#

my honest reaction

#

also using old mundo splash lo

dapper kite
#

toplane you could argue for 2/5
jgl is 0 hits
midlane i havent played lis, so i couldnt say, but the rest are all really fun
botlane maybe jinx? idk i had fun the one time i played her
support...yeah ok soraka isnt all that exiting as a supp and morgana can get rather boring

wheat notch
#

amumu is pretty boreing tbh

#

arguably sej

#

ww i had fun w and i havent played the other 2

#

Malz is only fun if you're fullbuild

dapper kite
#

fair

wheat notch
#

shen def isnt interesting

#

idk ab the rest

dapper kite
#

i disagree with the jungle opinions but i am a known tank enjoyer

#

shen sucks

#

and mordekaiser is fun exactly once

#

garen is fun forever, so is malph
mundo is not fun in certain games but giga fun in others

formal quartz
#

left to right matters

#

doesn’t tell us if left or right is least fun

sullen crystal
#

these tierlists are so funny

#

at the end of the day it's always subjective so this is just content farming

formal quartz
#

Indeed

sullen crystal
#

but some of these takes will always give me a sensible chuckle

#

least fun champs ali like

#

what is not fun about dashing into them and knocking them up

#

and then spamming cow bell

formal quartz
#

Tbf the tweet specifies what he means

#

Lower skill ceiling = less fun to him