was that always on that item?
#League of Legends
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prisma ravine
Rageblade gives AP now, and they dont want that to be wasted entirely (Since Vayne has no AP scalings otherwise)
I wish it was actual rageblade
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youmuu's doesn't feel right as a mythic
prisma ravine
Nope, only good legendary lethality item
Now assassins have 1 mythic worth using (Youmuus) and like 1 ok legendary (Prowlers)
Unironically I might see if Quickblades into Collector is better
severe cairn
like
the assassin mythic market is already crowded like balls when they basically lobotomized eclipse
ok why did they have to change duskblade though
lol, lmao
prisma ravine
Yi
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rageblade getting lethality mythic passive
prisma ravine
Oh its better than that lmao
severe cairn
I wonder if
nah probably not
but I wanna try out azir rageblade just to check
kai'sa with rageblade nashor's seems fun though
severe cairn
I like how the IE change is a nerf to yasuo and yone
prisma ravine
Is it?
severe cairn
yeah, IE is their best item but you never want to rush it
you really need attack speed, shieldbow/kraken/anything noonquiver is usually their first grab
or sorry not IE change
shieldbow change
completely removed the attack speed
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I guess it's not all that bad?
you can rush IE into shiv
so you can LARP as season 5 yas
DID WE LEARN NOTHING
prisma ravine
Is that LDR?
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yes
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yeah that's what I'm confused by
prisma ravine
Which is fair, makes it less bad for on-hit champs (Except still bad because crit)
severe cairn
honestly shadowflame was intended to be the AP serpent fang but it always felt like it wanted to be LDR
all in all these patch notes don't make much sense because IE gives zero attack speed so you wouldn't wanna rush it first item on ADC's anyways
severe cairn
youmuu's change felt like it came out of nowhere
I'm trying to think if pyke would build it over duskblade
more lethality and more movement speed
prisma ravine
Pyke is the only assassin who might build Duskblade
But I dont think he does
The %missing hp part doesnt work with his kit
Err
%increase with missing hp
severe cairn
yeah idk who it'd be good on
Zed is a no brainer
lethality caitlyn is super funny with this change
prisma ravine
Youmuus or duskblade?
severe cairn
duskblade, having an execute-esque effect on stuff like his ult and e might be too good
prisma ravine
Ah
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I sure hope they buff renekton because otherwise the champion will officially be trash
prisma ravine
I mean my hot take is I dont think any assassin picks Duskblade over Youmuus
Except maybe Pyke
Youmuus is just too good, while Duskblade still has the worst mythic passive by far
severe cairn
do you think his ult works with duskblade
severe cairn
yeah his ult is an actual execute so it doesn't actually do any damage
prisma ravine
Oh Pyke?
severe cairn
yes
prisma ravine
Pykes doesnt work no
ITs a set threshold
Thats the only reason why I think Pyke might not take Youmuus
On everyone else, Youmuus gives you roaming, ability to catch up, and more damage than duskblade
severe cairn
yeah these changes are just kinda eh
I don't know if there's one I really like that isn't shiv coming back
severe cairn
I think IE now has the highest attack of any item in the game right?
prisma ravine
What is it at, 70 or 75?
severe cairn
70
prisma ravine
Yes unless someone has a stacked hydra then
severe cairn
I remember before the item rework we had 80 90 attack damage items running around
I remember death's dance was like 80
I thought we had moved past that but ig not
ig it's cool that we're actually adding AD to crit items
oh wait
this is a huge nerf to cait
now you don't even get the luxury of galeforce ie
prisma ravine
As it should be
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it
okay the splash looks gorgeous, right
but it just doesn't feel right
Project was top tier
prisma ravine
Hard to top project
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wheat notch
Oh Shieldbow passive doesn't give you lifesteal on lifeline anymore, that's cool.
HOLY FUCK
THEY KILLED FON
Well kill is an overstatement but I can finally do damage to FoNers
severe cairn
Oh Shieldbow passive doesn't give you lifesteal on lifeline anymore, that's cool...
it hasn't for a while wintry
severe cairn
yes
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oh did they finally gut that item
chilly ivy
It's no longer a percentage and is just flat mr
gray sandal
wintry doesn't look at items she can't build on ziggs
bro why did fon reduce magic damage by 25% when fully stacked wtf was that LOL
severe cairn
wdym don't you love having a quarter of your damage just evaporate for no reason
🙂
gray sandal
i thought it was 12%
lmao
gah dayum imagine being a mage enthusiast
although i do enjoy a nice syndra game here & there
gray sandal
i thought it was 12%
like steelcap boots
severe cairn
no, you'd think so
wheat notch
yes
pls understand it was so traumatic I had it embedded into my memory (i dont remember adc items)
severe cairn
pls understand it was so traumatic I had it embedded into my memory (i dont reme...
I naruhodo
eternal palm
Yeah, most of my traumatic experiences are vs shieldbow
Chunk a priority target to 25%, shieldbow triggers, they lifesteal it all back and ace our team
prisma ravine
Thats actually nuts
severe cairn
riot be like "oh also let's buff all mages that aren't Vladimir"
prisma ravine
I mean they basically buffed everyone except tanks and (pending how nerfed the Youmuus we actually get is) assassins
chilly ivy
???????????????
oh my fucking god
yes
i love you riot
you can keep yasuo, i won't delete him
i'm still deleting sylas
wheat notch
riot be like "oh also let's buff all mages that aren't Vladimir"
Vlad deserves it for being one of the last 1v9ers
night marsh
new kayle ult is so awkward
since I forget I can actually do stuff during it now lol
also the duration got extended so the drop down damage is gonna take getting used to
wheat notch
God why does Neeko R do so much damage
God Eclipse is so ass
Should I fr be buying evenshroud
wheat notch
It sucks shit when I've got a support's budget bro
legit doing nothing for me rn
Cleaver broken as fuck but Eclipse just feels shit
prisma ravine
Oh its an item thats good without going full AD actually
You mostly get it for the shield after all, and the base is much better than the scaling
wheat notch
It's not doing anything for me shield or not
If I wanted the shield I'd rather be buying a tank item
It's not like I'm the one doing the killing anyway
I just exist to E inside of all of them and immediately stack up Cleaver
Unless it's my last game where I didn't have an adc
cheems
prisma ravine
Tbh idk if Pantheon support is even good anymore
wheat notch
It's not
I'm just tryna get a chest though
The problem is that I've already unlocked chests on my entire pool so now I have to gravitate towards random champions
I even have it on Vel'koz, fuck
Like I could play Ori but I'm not good at Ori despite me picking her in Clash just because her ultimate is That Good
prisma ravine
Ah yeah
I do that in normals with assassins lmao
People in normals often have shit macro and its easy to abuse
Talon was a pain in the ass to get a chest on though
Champ sucks in the jungle now
wheat notch
getting ireliad
its so fun to have a complteely unrespondable microstun that resets her q be in the game because of a shitty anim cancel
i would like to have counterplay actually but i guess its just too bad
I should just not be in the same lane as her
prisma ravine
Wait you can animation cancel IRelias E?
prisma ravine
I didnt know that
dim kindle
iirc it doesnt actually animation cancel in the proper sense it just hides her recast animation
kinda like morde r during e pull etc
wheat notch
iirc it doesnt actually animation cancel in the proper sense it just hides her r...
recast? it hides her initial
wheat notch
Yeah it's really uninteractive
Like damn you hit E guess I literally die for 0
At least Ziggs gets to W grumble grumble
wheat notch
https://youtu.be/eOFr_rM0bH8
@night marsh 
night marsh
Oh, that’s like@a new thing I think
I know for a fact they patched out the q animation cancelling the e2 but that just looks dumb lol
wheat notch
Oh, that’s like@a new thing I think
Yeah every Irelia I've played vs recently does it and it's so fucking obnoxious
night marsh
That’s so funny though
But yeah that needs to go
Even with that though, that champion is terrible rn though, tragic
wheat notch
Is she...? She's 51,2% (plat+) - 51,5% (dia+) wr on last patch [using lolalytics]
That's fucked up for a relatively skill-intensive champ no?
prisma ravine
Depends on how mained she is tbh
wheat notch
Yeah every Irelia I've played vs recently does it and it's so fucking obnoxious
Oh wow it literally takes no effort to replicate
You just Q a minion and then immediately E on top of it
wheat notch
Rakan is so fun.
I'm going to do Rakan mid after this game
What the fuck is Kennen though
night marsh
Is she...? She's 51,2% (plat+) - 51,5% (dia+) wr on last patch [using lolalytics...
She’s terrible into tanks
And falls off pretty hard
Against squishies though, I can understand why she’s cancer
It’s very difficult to touch the wave vs a competent irelia
wheat notch
how is the bork abuser bad into tanks 
wheat notch
What the fuck is Kennen though
bros q literally half healths me then e 40%s me then he autos me once and i Die
eternal palm
People forget the difference between fighting irelia in a minion wave, and fighting irelia outside of it
If she doesn’t land stun outside of minion wave, you got about 4 seconds of free damage on her
wheat notch
so fun
I've decided Seraph's fucking sucks but I don't want to give up Night Harvester for mana
night marsh
People forget the difference between fighting irelia in a minion wave, and fight...
I think it’s moreso the polarizing aspect of the champ that gets people heated
And they doubled down on it by reducing the number of stacks required to hit max passive which was incredibly dumb
wheat notch
even if she misses stun she's going to Q me and beat me to death
Oh she doesn't get a reset it'll delay her from killing me by ... 2 seconds at best
even if it was "4 seconds of free damage" no champion in my pool can physically dish that much out before being mauled by botrk
it doesn't help that she's a shieldbow champ that buys wit's end and dd either
prisma ravine
Its still wild to me that Irelia stopped using Sheen items
Because you use her Qs too often for the cooldown
wheat notch
eternal palm
Superior comp via good skins
dim kindle
i dont like any of these skins except the morde one
dont remember what the eve one looks like
eternal palm
I mean, you guys had the better draft if the support had been anything besides kogmaw
Kogmaw kinda trolled the entire draft
Also >heartsteel sett
chilly ivy
@wheat notch btw did this 2 days ago
wheat notch
<@265960037552357376> btw did this 2 days ago
I love doing that
LMAO
just hit d1 again 💪 we'll be back in masters soon 🙏
dim kindle
đź‘Ť
chilly ivy
sigh i think plat 4 is my peak
i won like
20% of my games there
?
the players there are even more volatile
either 0/8 or 8/0
take your pick
wheat notch
Yeah,
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slim terrace
jesus the hard carries
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I AM THE WORLD ENDER
wheat notch
WHY DOES A TANK DO SO MUCH FUCKING DAMAGE WHAT THE FUCK RIOT MAN
WHY IS KSANTE ALLOWED TO LITERALLY HALF HEALTH ME WITH ONE ABILITY?????
prisma ravine
Because its nothing personnel kid
wheat notch
AND BE COMPLETELY UNKILLABLE HIMSELF BECAUSE HE HAS ALL TANK ITEMS
Makes no fucking sense
Jesus Fucking Christ
prisma ravine
Oh while Ksante is in his ult (which is where he does a lot of damage) he basically has no hp or armour/mr
wheat notch
At least Mundo has no hard CC to exchange for his damage
prisma ravine
He just has like 30% omnivamp
wheat notch
Oh while Ksante is in his ult (which is where he does a lot of damage) he basica...
This means literally nothing to me when he activates a Gargoyle tripling his ehp dawg
So tilting
Oh my god
I also love Viktor being able to build more defensively than me going full glass cannon and still outdamaging me
prisma ravine
Oh yeah Viktor is quite silly
wheat notch
Guess I'm ending on D1 0lp tonight
I don't want to play anymore
really wish riot could sometimes just do the konami forbidden and limited list and Erase A Champion From Existance 
prisma ravine
I mean thats what reworks are (basically)
But yeah Id also prefer the game if Vi and Lee were just deleted
wheat notch
I mean thats what reworks are (basically)
unfortunately those r nto done to Broken Creatures
swain and urgot were mid I would not ban old swain from game
dapper kite
just a very fun experience in clash
after picking my jungler, i noticed that i had selected ghost and heal and could not switch from those summoners
so i had to swap with my support so we could atleast have a jgl (he had never played that champ before)
and then i could also not select runes
so i had to play grasp ghost heal blitz
dim kindle
WHY DOES A TANK DO SO MUCH FUCKING DAMAGE WHAT THE FUCK RIOT MAN
"you are finished!"
wheat notch
My favourite thing about Tryndamere mid is he can just choose to not participate in laning pahse
and i cant do anything about it because he has infinite sustain
severe cairn
melee vladimir ngl
wheat notch
Vlad is infinitely more manageable
at least I have a good lane m/u against that bastard
The hell am I to do about getting chunked for 1/3 with E auto auto Level 1
eternal palm
Sounds like you didn’t respect his level 1 and he took a gamble that could have just as easily ruined the lane for him
wheat notch
He didn't gamble anything???
I respected his level 1???
It was literally an e and 2 autos?
its not like him walking back to wave and me autoing the entire duration makes up for the damage
bc he starts dshield
xd?
eternal palm
You were in rage of him to be able to E unto you + 2 autos? How is that respecting his level 1? You can space and get all 3 melees with 1 Q, and you can Q at least 2 of the 3 casters
wheat notch
mb for not standing literally at my tower i guess man
anyway this ping pong is going to make me go insane
prisma ravine
Apparently there is exactly one Ziggs onetrick in challenger
On the Korean server?
wheat notch
Are there challenger zigg players above you?
there's challys and gms
I'm not close at all lmao
hearty root
how does tryndamere have infinite sustain
chilly ivy
well he is manaless and his q heals
wheat notch
what he said
he gets to start dshield as well without his damage suffering any significant amount
so my poke does nothing and i lose extended trades and have to disengage with satchel immediately
wheat notch
It's fucked up how bad Coup actually is wtf
Being a worse damage rune than Scorch is crazy
dim kindle
ye lots of situations cut down will be better
like most
but honestly none of them are really super good for ziggs
wheat notch
yeah id kill for a 2nd Good precision rune because i really like alacrity
but presence of mind blows unless i already won the fight and i dont want triumph for similar reasons
night marsh
dim kindle
i agree tbh
prisma ravine
Thats a hot take
My only issue with it is that it doesnt go far enough in some regards, and that Quickblade still exists
severe cairn
the game will feel absolutely terrible for a good chunk of champs/roles
absolutely
yas might be fun with shiv rush into IE second item
but every ADC ever losing galeforce access is
cringe
why would you even build galeforce now you throw away all your damage
even more than before
prisma ravine
Some will still build it but also
Good
Galeforce should've lost its dash alongside Prowlers
severe cairn
just looking at the list of ADC's here
Caitlyn is gonna be kneecapped, Jhin is gonna be kneecapped, Samira is going to be kneecapped
this is gonna make jinx even stronger I can tell
Vayne will be interesting I think she and Kog will be probably two of the best ADC's after the patch but it's just theory
Rageblade rush into a Zeal item will be crazy
severe cairn
yeah I mean shieldbow
losing the noonquiver bites so hard
she gets 0 attack speed with her current build
prisma ravine
Shieldbow only gave 20%, and Samira doesnt really care much for attack speed
On the other hand collector got buffed significantly (why was that the only lethality legendary that got buffed?), so
severe cairn
you'll be able to feel that 20%, is my point
prisma ravine
Less than youll feel the +6 lethality and the IE rush I suspect
severe cairn
that and shieldbow's lifeline passive will bite too
prisma ravine
Also I hate that Rageblade still has the crit conversion
Get rid of that garbage already
prisma ravine
Like just make Rageblade the non-crit onhit item it was
Remove the crit conversion nonsense
prisma ravine
Not particularly? Not much changes for him
The duskblade build is worse
But it already was bad so whatever
severe cairn
consider rageblade rush into kraken botrk
it's probably troll but oh man
it is going to be funny
prisma ravine
Thats just his current build in a different order
severe cairn
yeah and it's stronker now
prisma ravine
Im not even sure that order is good
You want AD early, and Kraken still gives more
And you dont wanna keep the lifesteal til the last item
dapper kite
One of my friends is master yi brained and his reaction to the rageblade change was
"Oh damn, thats gonna be good for my w"
severe cairn
nah I can tell you with 100% certainty that rageblade first item on Yi will go hard
prisma ravine
Losing the 10% attack speed from the mythic passive does matter too
Oh wait they gave back Guinsoos some AD
... maybe
Idk if he will be stronger though
severe cairn
guinsoo's also gives magic and armor pen mythic passive
prisma ravine
One of my friends is master yi brained and his reaction to the rageblade change ...
30 healing in total is not great
Yi does a lot of true damage and little magic damage
That passive will be weaker on him than on most rageblade users
Also god I just hope that Kaisa returns to her actually cool builds
severe cairn
I just don't understand why every on-hit item is magic damage now
prisma ravine
Bork isnt, is it?
severe cairn
right but that's percentage-based it's cheating
prisma ravine
And rageblade was just changed back to when it was magic damage
severe cairn
kinda
oh they also made what is it called
runaan's an on-hit
and it's just
why are you pushing on-hit so hard
prisma ravine
Because onhit has been garbage for 2 years and people who want to play onhit deserve something nice for once
And hey, anything that reduces the amount of crit in botlane is good baseline
severe cairn
80 + 60% bonus AD + 45% AP scaling to 100 + 120% bAD + 90% AP on-hit magic damage seems a bit strong
prisma ravine
Thats on every third hit
severe cairn
with guinsoo's it'll be not that hard to achieve
prisma ravine
No but it does matter that its on every third hit
Especially since it scales after 3 hits
Sides, Kraken Slayer is still a crit item
You can keep using it on crit champs too
severe cairn
actually wait that's 60% crit converted to on-hit as well
prisma ravine
They just didnt have the balls to remove the crit conversion and make more pure on-hit items smh
dapper kite
I too am here for it, because i am a lulu enjoyer
severe cairn
oh right they're buffing lulu nami and kinda soraka too
prisma ravine
But yeah my main issue with the update is that the lethality item changes are lacking and/or outright bad, quickblades still exists (it shouldnt) and hybrid Kaisa might not be her best build (which sucks)
severe cairn
I'd love to duo with a good lulu and become the ultimate menace
prisma ravine
You might not even use manamune on her anymore which is lame
severe cairn
my main issue is they absolutely skewed the ADC itemization and renekton is now officially bottom 5 champions in the whole game
and I am not exaggerating
prisma ravine
Youmuus being made into a mythic is just a dumb change, Duskblade still sucks, and the legendary items still suck
They buffed Goredrinker, didnt they?
severe cairn
Goredrinker on Renekton is a lie and don't let anyone tell you anything different
that'll make Renekton better in MSI
but as of now Renekton is not real in midlane and his toplane performance will drop
er not as of now, as of whenever the patch drops
prisma ravine
Its his most used mythic still
And there is a reason pro play doesnt use prowlers at all
(Its only good against players that are not)
severe cairn
no it's a really good solo queue item
makes him a decent splitpusher and arguably helps him scale well into lategame
prisma ravine
Not ... entirely sure how Prowlers helps you with splitpushing
severe cairn
50 fury + PTA + Prowler's + BotRK + Serylda's makes it very scary to match with just one person
I agree though it's very volatile and not good into the best of the best
but the fact that it was one of the best ways to play him in actual league was the problem
prisma ravine
Thats why they removed it
Also its so funny to me just how bad the new Duskblade is
severe cairn
I LOVE EXECUTES
prisma ravine
And since now you dont have to worry about prowlers dash interfering with your burst combo
I dont see any assassin pick duskblade over Youmuus
And only Kha would be good with Eclipse
prisma ravine
I LOVE EXECUTES
If only it was an actual execute
Its just a slight damage amp at low hp
... yknow when the damage amp matters the least
Its so worthless
severe cairn
nah the damage amp isn't worthless it's just underwhelming
I'm sure they can make it more appealing, the only issue is Youmuu's
prisma ravine
Its difficult without changing the design
Also the bigger issue is Duskblades mythic passive
Like Riot was aware that the reason assassins generally didnt use duskblade is because its mythic passive is trash
They freed up the lethality mythic passive from the other mythics (or showed that you could give ad as a mythic passive)
... but kept the current garbage mythic passive
Which is just baffling
And dont get me started on lethality legendaries
Why did we lose the only good one to get a meh one
Why did none of the bad ones get buffed?
severe cairn
the patch is confusing and like half of the champs I play are getting thrown into the blender
prisma ravine
Oh I dont think its confusing
severe cairn
the only positive is that Brand and Vladimir are getting buffed
prisma ravine
Riot is biased towards ADCs and against assassins
severe cairn
and towards enchanters
I do believe the force of nature changes are the wrong way to buff mages
night marsh
Is the patch out yet
prisma ravine
Nope
wheat notch
next week
chilly ivy
only one week until lost chapter is 1100
night marsh
and they wonder why no one wants to play jungle
gray sandal
and they wonder why no one wants to play jungle <:Hahaa:642861303387521034>
sigh do i have to teach you how to play void lady too, son?
night marsh
you should teach these bot lane animals how to live
slim terrace
damn was she literally inting
night marsh
They lost a 2v2 both like 1 minute in and she decided to start running it
eternal palm
That was winnable
hearty root
it do be like that man
no kills but all assists
my only opportunity to get a kill was kill steal by blitz in the early game cause he yanked lux at mid health but took the final hit
is this really the duality of these champions mains
wheat notch
the only accurate one is twitch tbh
eternal palm
Irelia is super accurate
dim kindle
im on page with the twitch one
prisma ravine
God
I really wish wed just get 2 bans already
I do not want to play against Lee or Vi ever again
dim kindle
i think we've understood you dont like those characters very much
prisma ravine
Yes
And Ill keep saying that until we get 2 bans
Or until they delete Vi and kneecap Lee
Either works
hearty root
what is wrong with lee and vi
prisma ravine
Vi I hate because her ult has no counterplay by design
hearty root
Vi is like sett but with armor reduction and a doomfist skill
prisma ravine
As in her designer literally said "Yeah I wanted her ult to not have counterplay, and changed it from a stun to a knockup because stun has too much counterplay"
And Lee I just hate because you always see Lee everywhere
After 12 years of seeing him Im just sick and tired of the champ
Also he is a bruiser who out-bursts assassin with less AD for ... reasons?
prisma ravine
I mean I know why he does in terms of mechanics
What I dont know is why he is a bruiser that also is a better burster than assassins
And it just makes him super frustrating to play against if youre a jungler, because I dont think any jungler except for maybe 2 can 1v1 him early and by the midgame none can
hearty root
i think u need to take
prisma ravine
I mean my tactic now is just
Ban Lee
Dodge vi
And hope to get 2 bans eventually
eternal palm
Just play morgana, solo q vi’s arent coordinated enough to play around black shield
eternal palm
I’m free after 5 today if y’all want to get games in
eternal palm
That’s fine, I’ll be on till like 2am
wheat notch
duality of man
The even funnier thing
My loss was against a Diamond 1
My win was against a Challenger 1k lp
wheat notch
this is a new one
wheat notch
Oh the Womanizer guy is a literal pro player
No wonder we stomped (and I got stomped next game by him)
slim terrace
lmao who is it
wheat notch
lmao who is it
slim terrace
wait why is he shown as emea
like turkey is in that region geographically but I thought it was separate
wheat notch
<@265960037552357376> thoughts
I'm not watching a PantsAreDragon video in current year
but ziggs sounds like a shit inting hcamp
severe cairn
naruhodo
slim terrace
isn't the whole point of ziggs to stay alive to be an annoyance
wheat notch
isn't the whole point of ziggs to stay alive to be an annoyance
I mean like I assume the inting factor is just
give me a second
for plates
Since your satchel execute basically becomes your main income midgame tbqh
unless you're behind*
doesn't seem like its working for him
his builds seem pretty ass but at least he has the common sense to q-w-q levels 1-3
slim terrace
I'm still confused as to why you need to die for that
overextending to kill towers faster?
hearty root
sometimes it feels like the visions from tower is really important so just like suicide yourself to destroy it seems justifiable
especially if it mid cause mid is the connector to the whole map
if mid first tower down you gain easy access to like some of the good jungle creeps and like somewhat safe passing for your jungle and whoever is mid lane to gank top or bot
wheat notch
i mean idc about vision i care that ziggs exe gives me
checks notes
750 gold?
2 plates plus 1st tower cash
slim terrace
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/13jb3jg/rell_midscope_details/ rell midscope details are out
I'm already loving the sound of a boost in movement and attack speed
the old e felt kinda shitty too so this is nice
night marsh
gwen misses another batch of skins 
dapper kite
~~Apparently the Ashe is based on gacha characters~~
oh yeah, i heard that someone specifically requested that
slim terrace
~~Apparently the Ashe is based on gacha characters~~
yeah of course she is, have you not heard beryl's story on his leona skin
dude loves his gacha
dim kindle
I like the rell changes on paper
i dont play much support but i did enjoy playing her on occasionally
wheat notch
~~Apparently the Ashe is based on gacha characters~~
yeah elysia honkai impact
severe cairn
gwen misses another batch of skins <:Harold:710366632630943794>
hahahahahaHAHAHAHAHA
PAIN
wait
Kindred, Aatrox, Akali, Maokai, Fiora
didn't Kindred and Fiora just get skins
prisma ravine
yeah of course she is, have you not heard beryl's story on his leona skin
I had not
prisma ravine
didn't Kindred and Fiora *just* get skins
Pro play skins are not considered in the schedule
Because the players who win worlds ask for the skins
severe cairn
aren't those different
wheat notch
They didn't can it 
prisma ravine
Just let me ban Vi in ARAM >.>
Or, now that she is dominating pro again
Get rid of her ult
wheat notch
wheat notch
average euw player
yawn
I dodged anyways
First picking Malphite and eating a Sylas counterpick is a bold choice
prisma ravine
God I really hope they either nerf Vi into unplayability
Or finally bite the bullet, admit August is a hack, trash her ult, and give her a new one with counterplay
slim terrace
I like her ult
slim terrace
They didn't can it <:pogbound:1106644308091748472>
prisma ravine
I mean her ult would be fine if it was breakable by a dash, not a knockup, or could be stopped by CC
I believe cost is adjusted
slim terrace
god I doubt it but I'd love it
prisma ravine
Do the patchnotes not say it?
slim terrace
give mages all the love pls
wheat notch
Do the patchnotes not say it?
the note only mentions luden by name
wheat notch
They didn't can it <:pogbound:1106644308091748472>
see here
prisma ravine
Could be
slim terrace
I feel like there's a solid chance at your elo
prisma ravine
I think he still has his account on EUW
dim kindle
all the websites say he has no actively playing accounts with that name
slim terrace
I'm so fuckin sad that this isn't an S somehow but man this game was so fun
slim terrace
when you have 3 people jumping onto your veigar and you manage to peel them all off there's nothing better
night marsh
Isn’t Yamato like the super toxic duo partner of ratirl
wheat notch
thats YamatosDeath isnt it
night marsh
Sigh
wheat notch
yamatocannon was a fnc coach or smtg
prisma ravine
Yeah hes a coach
wheat notch
streamer now but yeah
slim terrace
tomato cannon
prisma ravine
Alright, got the inkshadow orb
I hope I get the grab bag for once
The inkshadow skins are kinda neat
Aw
Just a rubbish Kalista skin
prisma ravine
Granted I could just buy inkshadow Yi
wheat notch
FUCKING EVENSHROUD??
wheat notch
I can't believe I fucking demoted from this game dawg
wheat notch
sigh
not sure why nasus was trying to pick fights against a jayce while he was 1/3 ! but you know how it is
dim kindle
Man Deft why did u pick caitlyn
slim terrace
dude's been in the game for a while
wheat notch
night marsh
I'm gonna get Aatrox
You mean Mo Ye?
severe cairn
nordic wojak yes face
night marsh
These do look sick though
severe cairn
it helps that half of the skins are non-humans if you wanna count kindred so the design teams can go ham
dim kindle
Its been really cool ever since they decided to make worlds skins more high effort
(also great for the teams since they get a share of the money earned through them)
severe cairn
me making 5 million new accounts to buy the aatrox skin 5 million times over
prisma ravine
Oh wait wtf
I just realised
They made Prowlers worse from PBE
Its now a 10 second cooldown??????
wheat notch
this was at 20 mins btw
the support was ivern w smite and he posted a powerpoint that i cant link here
wheat notch
this is such bullshit lmao
thank god he didnt buy FoN though
Oh wait Maw did nothing into Blitz R LMAO
well we won 
wheat notch
yooooo nice chest
prisma ravine
Pog
wheat notch
The fact that Brand passive triggers Electrocute is so stupid
wheat notch
duality of man
prisma ravine
Ok yeah, they adjusted the cost on all mythics, not just ludens
Also, early impressions of the item changes: Youmuus is crazy. Duskblade is garbage. Prowlers is the only decent second item, but its not great
The one part I still need to test is going for ER
Oh and, really funny thing
You go Edge of Night or whatever defensive-ish item you want third and seryldas fourth now
Because Youmuus gives you so much lethality you dont need the early armour pen
Oh and AD assassins fall off much harder now
Also Manamune is just bad on Kai'sa now 
severe cairn
prisma ravine
I wonder, does he still have the duo effect
50% of his matches are with only 2 supports
Yeeeep
Thats still so funny to me just how openly Kogmaw is skewed by the fact that people pick specific supports just for him
Thresh is the most picked support rn, barely picked 1/10 of the time Lulu is picked with Kogmaw
prisma ravine
Realistically Youmuus will get nerfed, sooo
Though other assassin items will need buffs badly when that happens
prisma ravine
Its the item for every assassin and for Hecarim
Both because its overtuned
But also because Duskblade is garbage
severe cairn
I don't know if I'd include Hecarim, Eclipse's shield is part of why he built it before
well that and the armor pen
prisma ravine
Its his new best mythic
Both most picked and most winningest
Sure, you lose the shield, but you gain way more damage, and a bunch of movement speed, which Heca likes
severe cairn
it's not that big of a gap
prisma ravine
I wouldnt look at full builds (or op.gg, I assume that is)
And sure, its not the biggest gap
But 1% is pretty noticable
severe cairn
that's fair
prisma ravine
Its funny, the only reason you didnt get it is because it took a legendary slot
But now its a mythic
So might as well
Anyway my guess is Youmuus gets a nerf to the lethality you get when its charged
Not 100% what that nerf will be though, maybe down to 15 at most?
severe cairn
I like how it has 6 more lethality and 5 more ability haste than eclipse for being the same price
prisma ravine
And adjust the scaling, ofc
Oh Duskblade does too
Its because Eclipse is supposed to be for fighters not assassins
So it has worse stats, but a powerful low cooldown shield
severe cairn
which when you consider that it kinda bites that they removed the lifesteal
prisma ravine
Also it used to have the same lethality, but was nerfed, and then omnivamp was switched to AH
It made goredrinker redundant sadly
... not that goredrinker is that good rn
But yes, I do miss the omnivamp
It was really nice on Kha
severe cairn
I played Xin Zhao and rushed Ravenous Eclipse BotRK and healed to full while knocking them up
prisma ravine
Im also curious how they plan to unfuck Duskblade
severe cairn
they'll bring it back to its old, old state where it was umbral
and they'll remove umbral from the game
prisma ravine
Oh that version would be sick to have back
Mostly because it would be good
But its unlikely, they already made Prowlers into a shit version of old Duskblade
severe cairn
btw they haven't buffed renekton
I'm kinda upset that they didn't do this during either preseason
prisma ravine
Id rather they do it now so they can scrap mythics next preseason tbh
prisma ravine
btw they haven't buffed renekton
I mean he's fine
He's even seeing pro play rn, and pro always builds gore on him which got buffed
wheat notch
shoutout to
remaking with 5 votes
thats definitely normal
Guess I'm not playing League today because this burnt all my spare time
LITERALLY NONE OF THEM WERE AFK??
slim terrace
bard ❤️
prisma ravine
Bro I actually hate the grade system sometimes
16 and 4 on Rengar
"A+"
Wtf do you have to do for an S
night marsh
Isn’t the system comparing you to the averages of other players on the champ
prisma ravine
Something like that
But somehow I doubt Rengars go 16 and 4 very often
Also man, I keep getting skins for Mordekaiser
Ive got Pentakill Lost Chapter, Dark Star, and shards for High Noon and Dragon Knight
eternal palm
Usually if you have a great kda and don’t get an S- it’s because your damage was lacking
Or your cs is way too low
Or both
night marsh
Ive got Pentakill Lost Chapter, Dark Star, and shards for High Noon and Dragon K...
All of those and yet you still don’t have project
Top 5 skin in the game
prisma ravine
Havent rolled it from the chest
eternal palm
I have project morde, it’s not the best morde skin
prisma ravine
Which one is better?
eternal palm
I like King of Clubs best personally as far as look wise, it doesn’t have any unique animations though
I know that’s a deal breaker for people
dim kindle
i really dont like project morde
like its objectively a good skin but I dont enjoy the robotic animations
a lot of his cheaper skins look great imo like dragonknight
i also love the ashen graveknight though the mace bothers me a bit
before his VGU lord was my favourite
eternal palm
You know who has great skins? Galio
slim terrace
this was a really solid team, shame the enemy vlad had to int in normals of all things
also jesus maokai feels strong rn
prisma ravine
Wtf is that Akshan build
sinful frost
prisma ravine
Idk why theyre buffing Kindred
slim terrace
Wtf is that Akshan build
idk I guess trying to abuse a busted item lol
was gonna try khazix cause he's supposed to be dumb with that but my team picked squishy
I didn't end up regretting going tank so all good
prisma ravine
Oh no Youmuus makes sense
Im confused by the shiv
And the fact that he is going both crit and on-hit but no rageblade
Also every assassin rn is dumb with youmuus, item is (predictably) overtuned
slim terrace
probably wanted to just try stuff cause new patch
wheat notch
hec basically did this already tbf
like ok he ulted on top of just e but the adc got popped out of existance either way
dapper kite
hes also 23/3, almost full itembuild, building pure damage, against an adc 5 levels lower than him
wheat notch
STORMRAZOR IS A SWORD?????????????????Âż?
dapper kite
What did you think it was?
wheat notch
I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A MECHANICAL DEVICE
dapper kite
wheat notch
LIKE OK HOLD ON
prisma ravine
Oh no please, go ahead
dapper kite
Drident momento
prisma ravine
Im curious how you saw a mechanical device in that
prisma ravine
Not ... really?
wheat notch
like i thought ah yes this is a gun of some kind
prisma ravine
Its round, has no ridges, and there is the whole hilt and sheath part
wheat notch
it's round because it's spinning fast so it can raze storms
🔥🔥🔥
that shit does not look like a sword at low res cmon
prisma ravine
But it does?
prisma ravine
There are definitely icons that are impossible to read
This one is just not it
Like back me up here Guy, thats just obviously a katana isnt it?
dapper kite
It very obviously supposed to be yasuos katana, ye
wheat notch
never am i reading "black stick" and "greyish stick" split up by "brown circular object" as Sword
dapper kite
Not yasuos
wheat notch
literally only found out bc of this
prisma ravine
I will give you though that I didnt know it was partially unsheathed
dapper kite
Wiat how
prisma ravine
Never looked that close
dapper kite
How did you see a dword and not that it was in the middle of the whole iado thing
prisma ravine
I just assumed it was one of those sheathes that have a metal bit at the top
... like Yasuos
slim terrace
you are insane.
no I agree, I have no idea how they don't see it
like I knew it was a sword, but at low res it's pretty clear how it looks like a gear
eternal palm
You guys are insane
slim terrace
the hilt is the gear and the rest of the sword is the axel it's spinning on
slim terrace
at high res, at low res it's pretty easy to mistake for a gear
eternal palm
The on going joke was always “adc’s best item is a sword”
When stormrazor was brokenly good
eternal palm
Well bt got a pass for a good while because it wasn’t strictly an adc item
eternal palm
Stormrazor clearly was
slim terrace
razor was nuts with cait and jhin back in the day at least
idk about how accurate that taco tweet is now or not
wheat notch
like I knew it was a sword, but at low res it's pretty clear how it looks like a...
YEAH AND WITH THE COLORS USED TO 'OUTLINE' IT LOOKED LIKE THE HANDLE IS MAKING LIKE A SPINNING MOTION RIGHT
prisma ravine
Second, if I thought it was a gear, I would expect spikes
slim terrace
First, what the fuck would a geat on a stick be?
an axel? 🤨
wheat notch
I mean idk bro I thought it was like
slim terrace
did you actually look at her image
wheat notch
a Literal lightning rod
slim terrace
well a lightning rod looks different, but I could see a gear
wheat notch
yanno, stormraxor, the electric effect of energised
i meant like
u call the lightning on the rod with magicks and hextech idk
and then u zap
prisma ravine
Why would a completed item be an axle?
wheat notch
because it's a fantasy universe and it can be a ✨ fancy ✨ axle
prisma ravine
Yeah but even then
That would be a component
And for a gear, it lacks spikes, isnt round enough and just doesnt have the right pose for it tbqh
slim terrace
why do yugioh cards look like something else entirely when zoomed out
we know what it's supposed to be from other context but if you only see it small you can pretty clearly mistake it for something else
wheat notch
I never saw real stormrazor so that didnt help
prisma ravine
Neither did I
I knew it was a sword from the small icon
I didnt know it was unsheathed but eh
prisma ravine
Then theyd do the windlines that they love doing
wheat notch
i thought that's what the background colors were dawg
prisma ravine
See I dont see the windlines in the zoomed in version, only the zoomed out version
Idk, I genuinely dont see how you would see anything other than a sword on it
wheat notch
then you lack creativity idk
it doesnt necessarily have tk be a gear like it's not gearing together with other gears
maybe it's just like a plate like a millstone you know?
prisma ravine
Like if you said Evershroud, Radiant Virtue or Heartsteel, Id be right there with ya
Im still not sure what Heartsteel is even
wheat notch
it's a chestplate
prisma ravine
I assume so since its replacing Leviathan
wheat notch
or just a shield
wheat notch
no like
just a chest plate
just for the chest
:>
oh r.v. is just a funky torch
chilly ivy
i love league
wheat notch
why does flex not censor names despite being a ranked mode lol?
prisma ravine
That implies riot cares about flex queue
wheat notch
Twitter
wheat notch
man what
bro is DESPERATE for waveclear
damn ! rengar is fucked up !
Yeah I don't think it's normal that Crown blocked 7k damage tbqh
prisma ravine
Yeah Rengar is kindaaaa fucked up rn
Youmuus is overtuned, Stromrazor is overtuned
He uses both
wheat notch
duality of man
prisma ravine
Shouldn't have been going for Morellos
wheat notch
fun fact our ezreal was a smurf, and also the kind of asshole to say slurs and add someone post-game
all i saw was "wp bro" before I sent him a message telling him to fix his ego and blockingv him
prisma ravine
Ah
wheat notch
Shouldn't have been going for Morellos <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
90ap 10pen is fine
prisma ravine
The EUW special
wheat notch
the fact it also cucked nunu was good
holy fuck lucian brau- damn it they picked nami
for a second i thought i was getting the nostalgia blast
cassio lane
urghhhhhhh
it's okay they picked malph and our top picked sylas
eternal palm
Winnable matchup, but tbh they keep nerfing sylas that I can barely keep up
Last time I played sylas into ornn the matchup felt rough as fuck
And I don’t remember it ever feeling that rough
wheat notch
he carried me so like ill take it đź‘Ť
bro roamed from top to mid just to kill cassio multiple times
dapper kite
based
eternal palm
Good on him, I would have probably just tp’d bot instead
wheat notch
at level 4?
eternal palm
Nah but prob at 6
Unless they were hard losing
My priority is usually always bot > jungle > mid
wheat notch
I JUST NOTICED
THEY FIXED THE HORIZON - LIANDRY'S INTERACTION
HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THIS ITEM IS PLAYABLE AGAINNNNN
I'm so happy
prisma ravine
I dont think that was even in the patchnotes
wheat notch
I've no idea when they fixed it
the last time I brought Horizon into Practice Tool was January
So there's a 5 month gap where they could've patched it, but whenever it was, it's undocumented
hearty root
https://twitter.com/Shakarez/status/1659905854500478978?t=a-vobWfB8hNBs8UD6GQHTA...
do people not believe in t1 anymore
eternal palm
LPL #2 seed just ran over both top LCK seeds easily
And then got destroyed by the LPL first seed in finals
It was satisfying tbh
Since LPL players actually got personalities beyond being league players
chilly ivy
the dragon is back
wheat notch
Time to create a new mini project
prisma ravine
Youmuus nerf is brutal, item is probably worse than pre-patch prowlers now (but still the best lethality mythic lmao)
Duskblade buff is irrelevant, item will still be turboass
wheat notch
Time to create a new mini project
the mini project is getting bad data 
wheat notch
....i should probably make anothrr column about teamfight damage because these numbers dont matter if they just . recall
or lifesteal back up
chilly ivy
true, poke that gets healed vs actual damage matter a lot
but it's a hard metric to grab, no?
wheat notch
but it's a hard metric to grab, no?
was thinking just looking at teamfights within those games and comparing starting bonus dmg to end of fight bonus dmg
and then adding those all uo
but i kinda cba
chilly ivy
if you have a damage by time graph, it should work