the passive shield increase is really backloaded
#League of Legends
dim kindle
so prob not
but ye like
i think its funny they are bringing the higher e stacking back
that mechanic was really irrelevant ever since they nerfed it down so hard
night marsh
@dim kindle I’m home@now
dim kindle
nice my game is about to be done
dim kindle
u wanna join us?
night marsh
@severe cairn do you want to play with us?
severe cairn
sure gimme a sec
night marsh
I sent you a friend request
severe cairn
kk
wheat notch
me when i ban my adcs hover for no reason
wheat notch
we carried him
smite top goes jungle and lee is left to rot in top vs gragas
hits like 2 good stuns endgame and it won us the game though gg jax is balanced
helps that anivia was not good
prisma ravine
New official(ish) Riot comic about Katarina
Its a leadup to Mageseeker apparently
wheat notch
I just noticed senna outdmged kaisa lmao
severe cairn
which part
dim kindle
||kills a bunch of soldiers right there, walks up to the captain and she buys katarinas excuse for being there||
severe cairn
lol
wheat notch
Me when my opponent makes the lane easier
Someone's mad
"Oh you missed hard to hit skillshots? No micro! You did a roam that ended up resulting in a Pyke double kill? No macro! You are for-sure inflated with ~20 LP gains and don't deserve your rank despite having a 70% wr over the last 40 games" 💀
dapper kite
Least mentally deranged midlane main
wheat notch
I don't think they are
I'm skimming their op.gg they switch between Mid/Bot/Top/JG
They're 42% winrate for a reason, I guess
wheat notch
Unrelated I'm curious how wrong u.gg really is because like I'm looking at my match history and at Ziggs' item stats and it's just 🧍♀️ not correct
In my 34(?) games this patch I've won 22 of my games wherein I started Sapphire Crystal (64%~) yet the Diamond+ tag says there's only been 32 Sapphire Crystal starts and it has a negative wr? :(?
~~I also have 20 Crown games, 15 wins, so it's a 75% wr but u.gg only mentions 17 games 59% wr 😀 ~~
dim kindle
ye something us up with ugg in general
not sure whats going on
i just use lolalytics atm
wheat notch
They were called the closest to Rioter stats so like what's up 
dim kindle
I think they just stop collecting data for some things eventually
also the item thing on it is useless
dapper kite
dim kindle
like you go to varus and it says like 1st item shieldbow 2nd rageblade 3rd rabadons because it just takes raw wr every slot rather than items in conjunction
dapper kite
like you go to varus and it says like 1st item shieldbow 2nd rageblade 3rd rabad...
New sleeper op build
dim kindle
like lolalytics is better at everything except the raw champ wr
wheat notch
~~I also have 20 Crown games, 15 wins, so it's a 75% wr but u.gg only mentions 1...
babyrage etc
dim kindle
everytime i have a nidalee i just wanna dodge
champ is so piss useless
we stomped game so hard and we still just couldnt play for anything properly because the champ just does fuck all
wheat notch
Every day I long for Unholy Grail 😔
dim kindle
Wintry's Unholy Grail
gray sandal
throw spear bro
dim kindle
unless ur nidalee is @gray sandal then its broken
wheat notch
my mmr is so good
It was funny though because my opponent ragequit Level 2 because of this
chilly ivy
built different
wheat notch
The problem with this champ is that he's just too good 🔥
dim kindle
wintry has solved the equation
wheat notch
welp
demoted
Anyways chat why is Morello 3rd such a bad idea here since Nunu had a mental breakdown over it
I'm clearly not gonna be able to afford Rabadon's at this point so I rather have 90 AP and pen when I need Oblivion Orb against 4 of their champs anyways
The only criticism I can accept for this game is buying Crown because it didn't feel too great against their burst and I got tagged by random spells in TFs into getting onetapped anyways but I figured it was better than Liandry vs 0 semi-tanky champions
Luden's is never an option because that item is not good on me
dim kindle
I do think crown morello is a bit too low damage for that team comp
and morello isnt bad but also not super high value
But ye i think its more the mythic
wheat notch
eh it was a mix of like
i lost lane pretty hard
wanted cheaper spike and also their team has so much burst
but i can acknowledge it was kinda mid
wheat notch
if i was autofilled i pick tanks too
because the jg picks i had most exp with is like
Nidalee
and im not playing nidalee jg in diamond el0o lmfapo
so i just try to do tankjarvan or rammus or trundle
dim kindle
Im just saying I do think your build was a problem but they drafted sion nunu so they dont really get to complain tbh
wheat notch
eh even if i buy liandyr like
my gold is low what else am i meant to get beside morello 3rd there xd
dim kindle
the morello is fine to me
wheat notch
dim kindle
does crown even work against zoe?
wheat notch
anyway yea i just saw "oh gragas has dh im pivoting to crown" and did That
it was more gragas and riven than the zoe
bc zoe shouldnt be able to get to me in tfs
unless i get casked
dim kindle
I think you were right about seraph being bad on ziggs and I feel its the same reason crown is usually bad
wheat notch
crown feels significantly better than seraphs tho i will say
i think its majority of my buys in ranked nr
The biggest turn offs for Seraphs (for me) is that it takes up Shadowflame's item slot and Tear is a delay in my spikes
while Crown lets me buy SFlame and builds out of Chapter anyways
dim kindle
i dont play ziggs but almost everytime I buy it on vik/syn im just like this item is so bad
wheat notch
tbf half the time i got it recently i was just like
"damn babygirl is that THREE assassins on the enemy tema"
example
dim kindle
But there is a correlation if buying it in losing games makes you feel its useless
wheat notch
dim kindle
against fiddle it actually seems really strong tbf
wheat notch
But there is a correlation if buying it in losing games makes you feel its usele...
oh forsure
i dont think liandrys was gonna fix anything that game though
but i can acknowledge that crown probs wasnt the big thing there
I got railed by a 2mil Zoe in Dia it happens I guess
don't have much zoe m/u xp
figured i could match her aggro but the fact that her passive is every spell compared to my static 12seconds reduced by 3 every spellcast early game is a bit
unbeatable
xd
- i was bad with bubbles
dim kindle
i used to struggle vs zoe so hard
like she waa my nightmare champ mid
but kinda got over it eventually
wheat notch
aye
zoe feels a bit coinflip to me bc it really depends on how good the player is at the champ
ive mega railed some zoes and just got stomped obvs
bc if i get even 1 kill i have much less incentive to be aggressive since i already got the lead™️
so i dont need to fall flat to bubbles or w.e.
Anyhow I can acknowledge Crown is a bad item as a whole but I wholeheartedly believe it's Ziggs' 2nd best choice atm
The 6/1/2 game I was gonna go for Crown but Akshan ragequit so I just went full damage 🤙
11/5/7 game I considered it a bit too but I thought "ah but zeri will just rail me anyways lemme see how liandrys does compared to last time"
- wukong kills me through it + kled is somewhat tanky
It was probably the call there, though, as I remember a few specific fights where I thought "damn not having Crown here killed me"
dim kindle
You really seem to have figured out something though thats for sure
wheat notch
The biggest change I've had is just committing harder to "fuck it we ball" philosophy™️
dim kindle
Honestly everytime i play mid i wonder why i play bot because i feel I play way better
wheat notch
like "oh my champ falls off at 25 mins fine ill spam scorch and be super aggressive and maybe it works maybe it wont"
dim kindle
I just dont have the same matchup knowledge ocean in mid
dim kindle
i dont think i have the mechanics to play adc at the super high level
wheat notch
I don't really focus a lot on 'specific' matchups I just try working around myself and the game around me if that makes sense I don't think it does
Or like, what I do doesn't change between game-to-game just because my matchup is a bit different
dim kindle
ye no it does i do the same mid
wheat notch
I still spam autos on melees wave 1 and Q casters 3 times and I still Q casters twice on cannon wave
and it just works
™️
dapper kite
You know, i wish i could take the same mentality for ww top
wheat notch
top is a different beast
dapper kite
Maybe i will once ive secured gold with sensible picks
dim kindle
I still spam autos on melees wave 1 and Q casters 3 times and I still Q casters ...
oh yea having stuff like this down is pretty important
wheat notch
yea i rememebr dopa talked about it like
ur goal, as twisted fate
is hit level 5, q casters twice, recall
so im trying to do something similar but on smaller steps but its not very fleshed out
dim kindle
Yeah i dont really plan out like that
thats an issue
Well I do but not with like knowing minion spell breakpoints
dapper kite
I should probably learn wave manipulation at some point
dim kindle
If you play top wave manipulation is the most important there out of every lane
mid is the easiest
wheat notch
at the very least i hope this demotion gives me more normal elo gains
+20 -28 in d1 was dumb as fuc
dim kindle
well just means ur rank was outrunning ur mmr which makes sense with how high gains are now
its a very weird season
hope next is better
wheat notch
i wasnt even
i 4 game winstreaked into d3 and my mmr has been stuck in d4-d3 since
+23 was the highest post d3 gain i remember
dim kindle
im turbo stuck d4 and i still get 35
idk whats going on tbh
I just havent played enough games for my mmr to balance out probably
Ill start queuing mid i just have more fun there atm
and can only learn the hard way to get better
only issue is my champ pool isnt exactly good in the meta rn but oh well
wheat notch
You're talkin to the gal who onetricks a shit champ
speaking of
demotes 1 time instantly stomps
very funny
+20
+20????
Half the lobby is d2 why am i getting +20
wheat notch
yawn
dim kindle
gale can be really good ye
wheat notch
that thing does NOT need to execute
dim kindle
id say its pretty balanced but ye it is strange that so much of the power budget of a mobility item is in the execute damage
wheat notch
I love her so much
I really don't understand though
Why they don't put the duration of worked ground in her Q
I had to google that shit
dim kindle
Shes been changed so much I barely know her specifics anymore
wheat notch
worked ground lasts 30 seconds btw
mattered to me bc i realised id have a much easier time clearing camps if i set up worked ground
dim kindle
I wasnt playing or paying attention when she got her midscope so i didnt know about her e punishing mobility spells
dim kindle
until i died to it like 3 times and was googling wtf is going on
dim kindle
The first iteration didnt do anything special when you dash on e i think
wheat notch
it only did dmg
dim kindle
yes but just the same it does when it hits you
and then they exploded after a while for more damage
anyway i should actually try her out
She seems really good as a meta call rn with her bot roaming capability
wheat notch
it always exploded on dashes smh
wheat notch
i murdered a zyra who was out of it but still got bonked
i lied it was just 3d perspective
dim kindle
lol i did not know about the auto attack lock out but that explains why your auto always comes out at the end
wheat notch
i do really like her bursty playstyle but my fav part was always the like
battlemagey? stuff
like liandry rylai phase rush kite all plebs 🔥
some of the most fun i ever had
dim kindle
30s queue into autofill ok league
wheat notch
same actually LOL
severe cairn
remove autofill please
wheat notch
thats why i went taliyah
dim kindle
autofill is pretty important to exist but it shouldnt autofill you after such a short queue lol
wheat notch
was it norms or rated
dim kindle
rated unless i queued wrong
wheat notch
dang
bc ive found i get filled waaaay more on normals
despite shorter queues
extremely fucked i got filled into jg u wouda thought itd become more popular this being the jungle season n all smh
dim kindle
it had a popularity spike early but then fell down again for the same reason as always
Me, firm believer that losers queue doesnt exist
riot giving me this adc
to make me doubt
wheat notch
It's ok you'll get the Wintry special sooner than later
severe cairn
Me, firm believer that losers queue doesnt exist
this happens to me every 5 games
night marsh
Me, firm believer that losers queue doesnt exist
that's just not a human though
dim kindle
always makes me feel better about my own adc gameplay
wheat notch
ngl
This sounds really weird to claim from my perspective as someone who isn't like a big shot ykno
But I don't really understand why marksmen, of all things, are the champs in bot?
like being the duo lane, sure, that's fine
but the one lane that doesn't have tower reinforcement pre5 mins, and you don't stick a demolish abuser or two in there? how does that make any sense?
surely youd want to abuse that aspect of the lane as much as possible no?
dim kindle
its cuz generally marksman are the best at splitting xp
less reliant on level compared to gold
and advs are still mostly the best at hitting towers
dim kindle
how do you hit tower as a melee
wheat notch
Tristana would be like the exception
dim kindle
vs double ranged
prisma ravine
Also pre-5 towers take like no damage anyway
dim kindle
there was a few instances of stuff like that in comp history but pretty much always falls off once players are more aware of how to play vs it
wheat notch
even so it just doesnt make much sense to me idk
Like I don't have the brain to actually theory team composition around it and explore the game on such a big scale but it really does not feel like adc/enchanter or warden|playmaker|etc support Is The Optimal Thing To Sick Down There
dim kindle
I mean there are good reasons for why marksman are generally the best bot laners but there are innovative options
pro players like to stick to the known because it lets them focus on other things
but e.g. we are seeing cho gath bot atm
wheat notch
aye
dim kindle
non marksman is viable
wheat notch
for sure i just feel weird that its the standard when i actually think ab it
dim kindle
seraphine ziggs veigar
wheat notch
esp since wouldnt they be worse fighters for drakes and such
dim kindle
all viable bot laners
dim kindle
i mean back in the day it was impossible to do anything else because marksman were actually turbo broken
wheat notch
pick a low eco demolish tank that can do good tower damage with a fighter with good mobility and good extended fights and ud be super gaming
dim kindle
but ever since season 8 weve seen viable non marksman bot strats pop up
dim kindle
yes but season 8 was when they heavily nerfed adcs across the board
wheat notch
ah right
wheat notch
all im saying is when i become challenjour and enter the lec remember me when i break the botlane meta /j
like range is a big thing at least 4sure but Every Single Other Trait marksmen hold sounds not thta good for drake/no reinforcement on towers
wheat notch
Also pre-5 towers take like no damage anyway
small comment here if mid didnt have reinforcement id get first plate soooo often with ziggs passive
it pisses me off sometimes how i get to shove in at 3-4 mins and go
"damn im a minute too fast i cant do anything"
prisma ravine
Mood, but with Viktor
But yeah the reason marksmen are bot is really just that
Having 3 people for drake is better than 2
wheat notch
that does not mean anything
dim kindle
it wasnt about having 2 people bot
wheat notch
im not saying take out a person out of botlane and replace the marksman with a fighter as if you flipped summoners rift upside down
im saying marksmen r not that strong early for drake fights (compared to toplane champs, imo) nor can they do tower pushes as well without accessing resolve tree due to their characteristics as champions
so it makes very little sense (to me) as to how theyre in the only lane without tower reinforcement pre5
besides basically exclusively trist who's special because of her E
Like maybe I'm just too low-elo to comprehend such large scale concepts but it irks me rn
dim kindle
marksman arent actually weak early game
generally
the range when used correctly cant really be played around
wheat notch
Oh sure I'm just thinking like specifically for drakes and towers not against champions
wheat notch
v often I'm playing a marksman and my jg wants to do drake and im just thinking wow i will lose so much value in minions and such doing it with him
dim kindle
something ive noticed is a huge issue
wheat notch
and my shove kminda sucks for towers too
dim kindle
and that i have a spicy solution for
wheat notch
(very xayah biased to be fair as i dont play marksmen very much and she was the only one that really spoke to me)
dim kindle
xayah has pretty good tower damage
wheat notch
the problem is Getting To The Tower
dim kindle
with 525 pretty low range
wheat notch
its like okay idt its great without rakan idk for sure
dim kindle
her shove is very s tier in class too
wheat notch
in class but not in game 😭
dim kindle
well lets say A cuz sivir sits alone in S
wheat notch
i cant like um
lemme think
like 3-4 feathers i dont think they even kill casters at lv4-5?
or maybe they do i dont know im really showing my lack of intel here
dim kindle
They will not
wheat notch
i have like 1 xayah game in my last 80 games
dim kindle
i mean thing is that non marksman bot is highly viable but the tower push thing is not really as practical as you think
wheat notch
dim kindle
if you play a melee bot into a strong double ranged lane you arent pushing shit
chogath works cuz his insane and wave clear are nuts
but he cant just run up to the tower and hit
(again very generalized)
wheat notch
yeye
in my mind its also like
it doesnt necessarily have to be oh youre melee so you cant push shit in
but playing around all ins like leona rene did
so u double kill bot and its long lane and u get hella stonks off of demolish and stuff b4 they get back
while marksman enchanter wouldnt be able to capitalise as well off of an early lead like that i dont think
dim kindle
yeah melee all in lanes work until people are mentally prepared for it then it stops consistently working
wheat notch
hmm
dim kindle
we had like j4 panth a long time ago
wheat notch
I'm thinking of riven way too much that champ is not cooking shit w/o ult
dim kindle
think that had comp play but dont quote me on it
wheat notch
im just soyjak facing at wow 4 dashes and also the stun
close the distance yk
but like lmao pre level 3 is gonna SUUUUCK
dim kindle
huge issue ive run into is my mid picks a bad side laner and then we are stuck rotating after enemy waves perma and it gets hard to get any prio
dim kindle
and i can probablt cheese some kills 2v2 with ppl who dont expect akshan all in
wheat notch
i never wanna sidelane i just wanna get the outer tower and go back mid/get the other sidelane towe rimmediately
im crying to myself when i have 2 lvs up and half an item on a marksman and i still get railed
hate kaisa fr
dim kindle
yeah basically thats fine with some adcs but if u have an adc that ideally just wants to sit mid all mid game it gets shitty
wheat notch
yea
dim kindle
but bot pretty much always picks before mid currently
its also a nice bait pick ig
id wanna try it when playing in a squad
i think
wheat notch
i never wanna sidelane i just wanna get the outer tower and go back mid/get the ...
the only time i rotate is if like top/bot is super pushed up to the inner tower so i help grab it
because ziggs demolition services is all im good for 
wheat notch
id wanna try it when playing in a squad
next time we play lets riven bot + low eco tank with guardian 
the only thing that akshan sounds weird ab in a sidelane is how you dont have a W to me
like i never see druttut leveling it up on akshan top
dim kindle
by mid game youd have it
just not that useful in lane in top
in mid id probably skill it for bot roams
slim terrace
tried out millio, this guy is super fun
slim terrace
ye played with jinx, the W range boost is so nice
with that and E you just basically never lose trades
dim kindle
its a very strong pick into draven
played both sides of the match up a few times now
draven has a really hard time dealing with the range extension
wheat notch
Wow! New Yuumi is insufferable to play against
I didn't notice it when playing Ziggs but god
Maybe I'm forced to buy Tear
That sounds so bad
dim kindle
thats already nerfed like a lot too
wheat notch
That doesn't matter to me when everything kills me so easily
I can't even buy the battlemagey shit because plants dont proc drive
they maintain it but lol
Her Q and E are so bad in so many ways too
dim kindle
yea
wheat notch
This is literally powercrept Heimer
with the only edge being her ult but like lfmao
as if there arent enough aoe cc ults in game
she felt fun when she went off but this is just
not feasible most games i guess
dim kindle
the issue is like they moved so much power budget into her ulted plants
wheat notch
did they?? they felt like dog shit
dim kindle
and then like her regular plants are just so giga useless vs some champs
and super oppressive
vs others
wheat notch
her ult doesnt even read like it does a lot for plants
wow 50% health and bonus damage
ye like
i just ulted ezreal and he still dicked down my plants lmfao
wheat notch
oh
cheap shot is bugged
root plants dont proc it
Yeah okay I can't even cope into making this champ playable outside of support unlucky I guess
I can't even full combo an ADC with every ability lmfao
dapper kite
Ouch, thats rough
dim kindle
yeah no zyra needs help
but they confirmed a lot of years ago that shell always be balanced around support
dunno if that changed
she does decent as low eco ig but idt shes even a good support anymore
wheat notch
shes over 50% wr in supp so i guess shes got that going for her
just joined zyracord and they said rito teased a midscope no confirm but i wish thats true
dim kindle
oh thatd be cool
wheat notch
Milios emote has OwO in its name????
slim terrace
uwu
this game went so nice, the ashe actually froze and hard won the lane
I'm still trying to figure out how thresh solokilled kennen repeatedly tho
liss also just perma roamed early and nearly made up for their bot
wheat notch
I'm still trying to figure out how thresh solokilled kennen repeatedly tho
flay dmg goes crazy
chilly ivy
cheap shot is bugged
Does the second shot not proc it? Or the one directly after the root?
wheat notch
Does the second shot not proc it? Or the one directly after the root?
the plants spawned off of e don't proc it at all
chilly ivy
Cringe
dim kindle
anyone playing tonight
night marsh
I’m at work
inner vapor
im shit
dim kindle
its ok to be shit
dim kindle
the swain dream
wheat notch
what happened to savant 
dim kindle
Practicing mid on this acc for now
itll most likely be out of d4 faster than savant lmao
especially working on ahri
and akshan but i never get any lobbies where I can pick him
wheat notch
very epic
night marsh
@gray sandal wya kid
dim kindle
Things I found out:
- I am terrible at akshan
- character is so good that it doesnt matter
wheat notch
nice
yea id grind a champ to m5 in norms before being confisent enough to drag it to ranked
severe cairn
me first timing katarina in ranked because my botlane banned my zed
dim kindle
yea id grind a champ to m5 in norms before being confisent enough to drag it to ...
thats why we have multiple accounts
anyway primary issue is that using his e properly in tight spaces is very weird
wheat notch
I feel dirty using multiple accounts
The only ones I tolerate are regional ones but that's more so because Riot likes making money from transfers instead of just having a global client
severe cairn
I don't, my MMR prior to a couple patches ago was ruined on my main
and I do not want to play a thousand norm games to fix that
I think I have 2 alts that I can play ranked with, and they all have different niches
dim kindle
I feel dirty using multiple accounts
i understand this but the system pushes ur mmr high so fast now that you arent really smurf ruining much anymore
wheat notch
yeah sure but for me specifically it's also like
i dont play a smurf carry champ
in a less kind universe id still be stuck in plat
like my friend is plat 2 and just got -30lp
when hes about as good as me at the game
also i dont wanna experience the hassle of leveling to 30 lmao i aijt buying an account or xp boosts for this
dim kindle
oh yeah my other 2 accs are friend accounts that they gave away
couldnt be bothered to level either
dim kindle
yeah executioner orb and bramble are so good since they made them apply full grievous again
i buy them a lot too
wheat notch
Yeah for sure but I was more so whining about how much healing there was x)
prisma ravine
Average Sylas + Millio + Lee Sin game
wheat notch
I love dealing less damage and taking more damage than a champion released later than mine 
Back in D2 yawn
I gotta start banning Jinx or something
dim kindle
dont think banning jinx really solves it
like yeah she is really good right now but like almost every game its just decided who plays around bot better
other than the games where bot gets turbo gapped 2v2
jinx doesnt have the agency
so its not really ban worthy
but she is a bit too good when she gets going
and that she fits in a lot of team comps and vs a lot of team comps ig
wheat notch
like yeah she is really good right now but like almost every game its just decid...
I got stomped twice by her pls understand I do not think all too rationally under negative emotions
I don't really think Udyr is any better of a ban though so I can spare the ban on Jinx tbh
dim kindle
yeah id say there are way better junglers to ban than udyr
the jaksho demonic menace days are fortunately over
wheat notch
Eh I don't really care about him being genuinely good he just fits into the really fucking obnoxious genre of champions that Ziggs cannot get away from
so he just nullifies my participation in game
dim kindle
i just got my asshanded to me top i blinded malph and got mordekaisered
game was very winnable but mental wasnt here
wheat notch
also ugg still calls him s tier with 51% wr
so yk
oh asol free lane poggers
i hope we end by 25
dim kindle
ngl people who blind asol are coping so bad
its like everytime someone picks akshan or assassins and he just goes like 0/8
wheat notch
its like everytime someone picks akshan or assassins and he just goes like 0/8
yeah i love playing ziggs bc i just poke him so hard out of lane
dim kindle
he got hard nerfed like 3 times
wheat notch
its free lane if i play properly
wheat notch
lee sin jungle ziggs mid vs asol is surely gonna be fun for him
unrelated
my worldview is shattered rn because i jut took biscuits and i didnt hate them
so now i gotta play them more to figure out if that game was a fluke
Oh
Oh it's that type of ASol player
ah my draven is level 30 account nice ok free game
wheat notch
I hope not
dim kindle
ppl on smurfs behave really disgusting
they have less of a mental barrier
if it snot their main
wheat notch
my worldview is shattered rn because i jut took biscuits and i didnt hate them
I hope it's a fluke so I get to keep simping on Future's Market btw
dim kindle
cookies should be solid in hard lanes
can see the market angle in free lanes tho
market is a pretty underrated rune
wheat notch
theyre bot hearly game runes
so im just trying to evaluate
which i prefer more
okay the talon game was a fluke
or, extremely niche
Maybe it's bc I started Amp Tome in talon and sapphire here
welp
back in diamond 1 again
:D
prisma ravine
I have now played the mythical triple tank double battlemage ARAM
God what a slugfest
wheat notch
i love d1
wheat notch
I've found the wisest Ivern player today what the fuckj
Rylai with Daisy is so broken??? Why did I never see this before???
bro just said "u dont need supportive shit early u need damidge"
and builds rylai into nh/liandry
I also got
+19 LP :)
wheat notch
wow Ziggs ult is so broken actually
beating myself up for not abusing it this hard before
HAHAHAHAHAHA
wheat notch
not if my gains are +20 with a masters in lobby
wheat notch
These are so miserable dude LMAO
dim kindle
if we see masters wintry im buying you a skin
wheat notch
Don't.
dim kindle
oki
dim kindle
fair
wheat notch
and i hate feeling indebted to people
wheat notch
also the only skin I truly want is not for sale :^)
prisma ravine
Hextech Swain slaps
wheat notch
which one is that
Major Ziggs
Other than that there's not really any skins I wish I had besides like
Tyrant Swain? But I already have Crystal Rose; Dark Star Xerath...? But I already have Guardian and Battlecast; Dark Star Orianna, maybe SG depending on how it looks? I don't really enjoy Ori, though; and all the other options, while nice, I haven't really gotten into playing yet
dim kindle
xerath has nicer skins than dark star in my opinion
tyrant swain is really banger though
for sure top 3
wheat notch
I heard the one where he looks like an eboy is good
but eboy Xerath rubs me so wrong
wheat notch
Dark Star Ori is amazing
dim kindle
the sound effects are very strange
wheat notch
it was like the skin for any Ori main
dim kindle
always hear it when i play vs her
wheat notch
besides the winter one
wheat notch
I heard a lot of simping for Star Guardian but I haven't looked at Wild Rift at all
dim kindle
lol ori has a bee skin
wheat notch
xerath has nicer skins than dark star in my opinion
Is the only other 'better' one truly eboy xerath
I think I looked at Astro Xerath and hated it
and I don't like the old recolors, Sands is the only other fine one
dim kindle
i like shorched earth a lot but it probably shows its age
wheat notch
yeah def i dont like it at all
Dragon Heimer is really good but that'd mean I'd have to actually play more Heimer
dim kindle
yea i dont like that at all
wheat notch
Actually it's like fine
...for an Astronaut skin
but I don't like the Astronaut series 
dim kindle
i have been mostly underwhelmed by skins lately
except for some standouts
i think forcing champs into themes they really dont fit just to have every theme appear once a year
is pretty bad
wheat notch
Yea
the only time i was truly wowed was genuinely bb ziggs
i saw the official rito trailer and i was like
holy shit i need this
dim kindle
yeah i remember when these came out haha
wheat notch
The Malz one was really good too
wheat notch
God Ziggs procd Thunderlords
dim kindle
from the last year or so i really liked
wheat notch
These are old old
dim kindle
its really good
dim kindle
i dont like the valentines skins usually but the cait one just hit all the spots right
wheat notch
repulsion? not really
dim kindle
it looks very cute and the animations fit good
prisma ravine
Aversion?
wheat notch
yeah for sure
prisma ravine
But Beemaw is 10/10
prisma ravine
And Orbeeanna has a very cute colour scheme
wheat notch
his w turned into a piss tsunami
i dont want a piss tsunami w
also the sfx sucked shit
dim kindle
i think high noon is a bad offender for forcing champs into it
wheat notch
it also has some huge bangers tho
dim kindle
absolutely
wheat notch
I got high noon urgot from rerolls
dim kindle
its one of my favourite skin lines
wheat notch
god that skin is So good
wheat notch
There's a twitch one? lmao
dim kindle
i wanted the viktor one to be nice but it just doesnt fit
wheat notch
SION????
wheat notch
battlecast 1st?
wheat notch
or smthg else
prisma ravine
Battlecast first yeah
dim kindle
it basically means nothing
wheat notch
is deathsworn halloween
prisma ravine
Sorta?
Its Legacy
Anyway, I think High Noon Viktor is just a good skin in general
wheat notch
like is deathsworn halloween with zed and katarina
prisma ravine
High Noon Tahm also makes sense with the new lore
wheat notch
bc i hated those so bad
dim kindle
i liked it initially but the more i played it the more off it felt
prisma ravine
And man is his High Noon skin good
wheat notch
they looked like they didnt finish polishing the vfx
dim kindle
i play base vik now lul
prisma ravine
Though Tahms best skin is Arcana
wheat notch
I'm scrolling thru new skins
dim kindle
also the lore skins are pretty much always banger
prisma ravine
Lemme remember what the last interestine one was
wheat notch
Fright Night was cool but I think I've only seen Annie on it once
prisma ravine
Actually Broken Covenant has one or two bangers
dim kindle
fright night renata is really cool
prisma ravine
Winterblessed was incredible
dim kindle
disagree on that
wheat notch
Ah I think I remember his wings being shat on a lot
dim kindle
but its a good skin
prisma ravine
Space Groove is stil lreally cool
wheat notch
I think the Zilean skin is nice though
prisma ravine
They changed the wings
wheat notch
1st pick akshan
dim kindle
winterblessed diana is definietly one of the best legendaries theyve made in a while
dim kindle
im telling u akshan is so nuts ppl are just starting to perma pick him in bad situations and it still works
wheat notch
ok which one of u is going top
prisma ravine
Tbh the only Swain skin Id rate higher than Winterblessed is Hextech
dim kindle
you know russian tsar
prisma ravine
And I am not 100% sure Id even put Hextech above it
dim kindle
but
it just didnt quite work out
perfeclty
perfectly
with some parts of it
to me at least
wheat notch
I don't think I've had any Swain skin really hit me like Tyrant tbh
dim kindle
yea tyrants just the goat
wheat notch
but then again I bought Crystal Rose over it so lmao
dim kindle
crystal rose is really cool with the red chroma
wheat notch
isnt that a bundle chroma
dim kindle
i dont think so its the only one i have
dim kindle
empyrean skins were a cool idea too but most of them kinda fell flat
dim kindle
yea its just like lux has no reason to be there but it was time for a lux skin again
it is what it is
prisma ravine
Space Groove is cool
wheat notch
zed too smh
dim kindle
snow moon was a solid skin line
prisma ravine
Fright Night is good
prisma ravine
Then we get the two skinlines that were just entirely forgettable
wheat notch
ngl i think i despise the new set
bc i saw fairy karma in game
and i just did not know it was karma
for the first minute i saw her on screen
dim kindle
its just such a bad legendary
like imagine
that karma skin
and winterblessed diana
dim kindle
cost the same
omegalul
gotta get lucky that you get the good legendary skins people for the champ you like
wheat notch
the hi-tech shit keeps being a miss to me
I looked at like the new inkshadow thing
and was just thinking
why the fuck does yasuo look like mecha yasuo
but green
dim kindle
inkshadow is kiiiiiiiiiiiiiind of cool but again the execution just missed a bit
the new dawnbringer/nightbringers are all fucking ass
wheat notch
they look techy when they should look ancient and shit
dim kindle
another skinline that got killed by being formualized
prisma ravine
The hi-tech stuff wouldnt be so bad if like
dim kindle
not dawnbringer
prisma ravine
They did anything with it
wheat notch
Cafe Cuties seems like a super cool skinline (😳) but also I haven't seen like half of these skins in game ver
prisma ravine
Like Battlecast is still cool
wheat notch
I didn't know Vlad got one until I just Saw It In The Shop
dim kindle
i think the vlad skin wouldve been better with a new model
like they tried with i
you can tell
its not bad but the model makes it mid
dim kindle
i think they litteraly said
wheat notch
braum has a summer skin??
dim kindle
they cant do that
wheat notch
ah so lux is just special
dim kindle
because having 2 skins like elementalist lux in 1 game would probably crash the game
wheat notch
as usual zzz
dim kindle
dont quote me exactly on that
dim kindle
and it mightve been an excuse
wheat notch
not the 8 chroams in game
but they reused the base rig and whatnot for newer lux stuff
so that you wouldnt skip everything bc it felt like shit
wheat notch
whyd they revisit marauder warden lmao
dim kindle
i think the draven one hit his character super well but the actual skin just looks like shit
wheat notch
Cosmic skins that dont look like cosmic incomprehensible beings but just Blue People zzzz
why does susan have a battlecast skin does his legendary not do basically the same thing
dim kindle
also nasus is getting a nightbringer which basically looks like his infernal skin
but newer
wheat notch
amazing
dim kindle
was this catering to chinese players or something i dont understand
wheat notch
seeing yas wuth 2 legendaries just reminded me of the blitz 2 legendaries
and how they killed it for sake of clarity
but then released ezreal lee sin
etc. etc. like man
wheat notch
awesoem
its not like
ud be confused anyway
bc they were still mega bulky like blitz
just because he walked differently
dim kindle
space grove blitzcrank is a very funny and cool skin but the hook is giga p2w again
dim kindle
so yea
skin clarity
left a long time ago
i want
an option to make every champ default model
so bad
you dont even know
but thats obviously never happening
u guys seen the fuckong space groove liss
hovering on some stupid platform like she is seraphine
wheat notch
incredible
did they rename talon there is no way bro was called enduring sword
i just dont believe that
for the weeb skin with nami and irelia i think
prisma ravine
Fwiw
Lagoon Dragon Kai'Sa is actually a nice skin
Though sadly Kai'sa lacks like
Actually good skins
Because they all ignore her entire thematic and ignore the helmet
wheat notch
doesnt her release skin have it
dim kindle
Yea thats about it
but kaisa was like doomed from the start
when they dolled her up
prisma ravine
Yeah, only her release skin
Which is a shame
Because that would've been a much cooler angle
dim kindle
ig is good because it feels good to use
prisma ravine
Yeah thats the one I consider good
I dont like that it ignores her thematic
But the raven aesthetic is great and it feels nice
dim kindle
yep
a void kaisa skin with her being more corrupted n shit would be cool
i just like lore skins a lot too
wheat notch
I am considering Yasuo as my new permaban
in other news, the problem is that I'm just too good
I'm just lying I fucking inted this game so bad oh my god it is a miracle we salvaged this
cursive falcon
he lived up to the yasuo meme
night marsh
in other news, the problem is that I'm just too good
Holy
night marsh
@gray sandal get the camera
wheat notch
wheat notch
I don't think I ever was hardstuck g4
I went Bronze 3 -> Gold 5 -> Plat 4 -> Gold 1 -> Plat 3 -> Plat 3 -> rn
night marsh
Can I have your autograph Ms Ziggs
wheat notch
here u go
prisma ravine
Speaking of bee skins
I got Nunu and Beelump from the Faerie Court orb
Its a cool skin I just dont play Nunu >.>
Also Wintry
How many games did you play this season so far?
gray sandal
<@181089711509602305> get the camera
could be you bro. wintry-chan running it in half her games & still hits masters
i cba to give that much time to league tho. unless i can get paid like LoR
wheat notch
Thats a lot of games
well yeah its how i spend literally all my free time lmao
prisma ravine
I thought you played Genshin
wheat notch
I got burnt out so I touch it pretty infrequently
wheat notch
Ah that's because my mmr stayed bottom tier so all the games were practically the same skill level until the matchmaker realised I needed to play against actual D1s in promos lmfao
Also holy fuck, if I want to hit Grandmasters, I need to win about 34 games in a row if my gains are about +20 per game??
This is a bit silly.
wheat notch
It's enough that I'm going to have to play against people that are significantly better at the game than me
But then I also have to win so many games?
wheat notch
but once you hit diamond you climbed insanely fast
Is 12 days that fast also I demoted and re-promoted constantly between the tiers
dim kindle
thats really fast d4 to master like huge jump
i mean its way easier now than it used to be but still
severe cairn
bro PLEASE give vlad an asu
Blood Lord would look so very good with updated animations
dim kindle
Yeah he really would
severe cairn
new league skins
another master yi 1820
🤢
THAT KAI'SA SKIN GOES HARD THOUGH
dim kindle
the yi one is actually the best though
severe cairn
project yi's r walk cycle is just too peak
severe cairn
BRO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING
dim kindle
gwen wouldve been nice in the ink theme
dim kindle
i dont think theyd get rid of the scissor
or at least they shouldnt probably
its like the one thing that clearly tells you its gwen
then again idk if riot gives a shit anymore
humble glacier
have fun
imo best combinations are Severum Crescendum, and most of the Calibrum combos
dim kindle
Severum crescendum is great but it falls off a bit against good enemies especially late game
but ye the correct ordervis red white green purple blue
white green is generally the best teamfighting especially around objectives
red blue also very strong
there are some really good videos for small tips and tricks like the 4 weapon all in combo
and other stuff
severe cairn
ye I'll look into it
night marsh
These are just words
Rush rabadons and right click
Maybe a warmongs second item if you feel lucky
severe cairn
yes sir
dim kindle
heartsteel
severe cairn
glory to botlane
hearty root
yuumi is a fun support
and people should stop associating good yuumi players with the trash bots that been popping up
dim kindle
kinda hard to associate yuumi players anything when the champ barely has any skill expression left
slim terrace
I feel like her Q takes a bit more skill to aim than before 
gotta read the opponent a bit but if you know how to hit it, it's way easier to land than before
wheat notch
seems fair
wheat notch
can you believe i lost that game
wheat notch
I LOVE TANKS DOING MOST DMG WHILE BEING NIGH UNKILLABLE
shoutout to talon buying serpents fang 3rd with only 1 shield on our team
prisma ravine
Buying Serpents Fang at all is trolling ngl
wheat notch
This has to be the most helpless I've ever felt ong
prisma ravine
Wtf is that Ezreal building
dapper kite
Looks like a p standard ezreal anti tank build to me
prisma ravine
I have mever seen Prowlers on Ez
Hes like
The only champ where Duskblade is correct
prisma ravine
Really?
Cuz like Duskblade is his most picked mythic and Prowlers is picked so rarely it doesnt even show up in the stats
Wild
dapper kite
That sounds wrong