#League of Legends

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dim kindle
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oh

prisma ravine
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I want it to become un-qssable

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We have a few examples of that, some unjustified

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This one would be fine though I wager

dim kindle
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Dunno I think the route theyve laid out with the new skarner ult is better

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generally the champ is already in a better state than way back in the day where he was an actual ult bot

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he has more power in the rest of his kit

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i dont think gameplay is really the reason why skarner is so unpopular and riots data seems to agree

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im very curious what the rest of his kit looks like

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his ult is the big iconic identifier that people associate with him and fits the scorpion aspect so im fine with it stayin

dapper kite
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Speaking of ult bots, i really dont know how to feel about warwick
It might jusr be small sample size, but the champ feels ass to play sometimes even in the best scenarios.
Ive gone from actively enjoying playing him to only wanting to pick the champ if hes a hard counter

prisma ravine
dim kindle
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warwick ul tis fine imo

prisma ravine
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When Skarner had his original kit

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He was a whole lot more popular

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It just slowly got removed for reasons that nowadays are silly

dapper kite
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Yeah sure warwick ult is fine, but the chamo just does not feel good to play past minute 15

dim kindle
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was he more popular

prisma ravine
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Significantly, yeah

dim kindle
prisma ravine
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He was typically average to above average pickrate

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When he was good

dim kindle
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the crystal pillar mechanic was definitely not it

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ever sicne that he was ever only picked whne he was broken

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the 2-3 times

night marsh
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Who tryna play a few games before I have to go to work

dim kindle
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i can 1-2

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do

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@night marsh

night marsh
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kk

night marsh
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Btw my PayPal is swash001 @gray sandal @eternal palm yw for the carry

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And @dim kindle

gray sandal
night marsh
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That Gwen outplay on ori to force her flash over

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That’s LCS levels of outplay

dim kindle
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i need to be paid for what i had to go through in that lane

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so i pay you with the money i get from everyone else

dim kindle
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actual giga brain outplay to fail e

eternal palm
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She was trolling out the ass

dim kindle
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oh yea that was funny

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honestly didnt matter tho that guy went eclipse bt he was never doing damage to gwen

night marsh
dim kindle
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I really was

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my bad

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The issue was that we got into one bad state and we never properly got out of it because he didnt help me get us a reset and instead went in

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like not super bad just not on the same page and them dive happend too xd

eternal palm
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We playing?

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I’m home and intoxicated, which means perfect time to league

slim terrace
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that's how I do it with my friends my reaction time goes to shit though

night marsh
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Still at work pensivecowboybread

slim terrace
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damn dude working the night shift?

night marsh
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I work 6 to 2 PeepoCry

dim kindle
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sadge

eternal palm
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6 to 2? Smh we could have played like 4 more games yesterday

night marsh
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im free rn if youw ant to play @eternal palm

eternal palm
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I can hop on, let me just put clothes on

night marsh
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kk

eternal palm
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yall dont want in on this @gray sandal @dim kindle ?

night marsh
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are we vcing or nah

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actually nvr

eternal palm
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yeah i'm on here

dim kindle
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busy rn soz lads

wheat notch
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What's the elo in these games I could join in with an auto-based champ (so 150ping is playable cheems ) if it's not too high

night marsh
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do you want to join us

eternal palm
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I trolled hard

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but it's k

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I told them at 10 minutes Kled would carry us

gray sandal
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driving to Indiana, currently @night marsh @eternal palm

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i'll carry you nerds later

eternal palm
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I forgot you were from Ohio my g

gray sandal
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..i'm not

gray sandal
night marsh
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all ex-lcs players minus thugs

wheat notch
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WOOOOOOOO YEAH BABYYYYYYYYYYY THATS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT

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prisma ravine
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Noice

wheat notch
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I PLAYED BOTH GAMES

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SO BAD

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9TH PLACE

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💀 💀 💀 💀

dim kindle
wheat notch
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I'm so hype in chats rn

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and irl im just

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😐

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lmao

eternal palm
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sona + seraphine bot lane is the fucking nuts

slim terrace
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new guma gif

dim kindle
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oh shit

wheat notch
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That's great

chilly ivy
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pausechamp

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will dragon gaming get me to plat?

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wheat notch
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1/3/2 irelia vs 5/0/5 fiddle

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who wins do u think

chilly ivy
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irelia

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once the fear runs out

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fid is dead unless the full w kills her outright

wheat notch
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ye s ok but thats extremely cringe?

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all my deaths are against irelia

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gray sandal
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so this where the league addicts hide. time for us to finish what Tyler1 started ConcernedFroge @night marsh

dim kindle
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healthy power curve

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wheat notch
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crying

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my chest.........

wheat notch
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is that asol

dim kindle
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space dwagon

wheat notch
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lmao

wheat notch
dim kindle
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they need to smooth out his power curve if they want him to not feel turbo cancer

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better early weaker late

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probably remove w reset

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in my opinion

wheat notch
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rumblefy asol q

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tbh

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no moving is so unsatisfying

prisma ravine
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I dont think W reset is the issue

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The Q scaling is

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And E size scaling

chilly ivy
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ngl, he's ok early, just that he cannot afford to use it in lane most of the time

dim kindle
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w reset is absolutely a problem in my opinion but yea lowering the e size increase is another one

chilly ivy
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say i just laned vs ahri

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if she missed her e, i chase her out of lane or kill her

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immediately

wheat notch
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i feel like if w reset isnt in his kit he just isnt a good enoug hchamp in tfs

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unless u make it like

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charge based

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but charge based w sounds insufferable to get back to lane with, dont need tp at that point copium

dim kindle
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he is a battle mage who is incredibly powerful at controlling an area to fight i dont see why he should get to auto finish everyone off in a won teamfight

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but ye maybe im wrong about it

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e size is definitely completetly outrageous

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so we can start there ig

wheat notch
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i dont like asol in general both to play as and against

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loved going 3/0 int oasol lane

chilly ivy
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Imo just make it use a separate resource for w, but he's already complicated/overloaded

wheat notch
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and i still got spam pinged when he went out of control

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as if i didnt kick his shit in as much as i could

dim kindle
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all the turbo scalers im a cannon minion first 15 min champs are absolute misery to play both with and against

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in solo q

wheat notch
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eh i jsut mean like satisfaction too

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There's only skies descend

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he feels sooooo unsatisfying in every other way

chilly ivy
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Ngl I'm been having a blast playing him

wheat notch
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i hate q so much

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i would much rather have stars back they felt better than thsi

chilly ivy
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Both early or otherwise

wheat notch
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but stars were terrible design so it's w/e

dim kindle
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dunno in terms of fun to play he is a pretty resounding success

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he totally is fun

wheat notch
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hes just

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not old asol

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😔

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the whole point before was ✨ juking ✨ so what do they give him

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velkoz ult

chilly ivy
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I just don't like how clunky his q sometimes feels, especially if you cancel and recast right before w ends

dim kindle
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ye well i feel for people who liked old asol but i also think its just kinda gonna happen that champs that unpopular get changed

chilly ivy
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It immediately gets canceled again

prisma ravine
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Asols scaling is also just ... kinda making him boring af

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Its the Nilah problem

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... well its a third of the Nilah problem

wheat notch
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i mean its not just like unpopularity its just like

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like i get they HAD to wipe off old asol into a pit

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but u could at least keep the core elements intact

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they kept his most hated ability from old asol and tossed the rest lmfao

dim kindle
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the thing is they are gonna have to nerf him like 2-3 more times and then itll just be kassadin but even worse

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to play with

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and against

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unless they start making mechanical changes

chilly ivy
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I'm probably dropping him post nerf tbh, maybe he's just fun because I'm winning

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Idk

dim kindle
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maybe

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i do think he is cool

chilly ivy
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5 solo queue games with asol, 5 wins

wheat notch
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He's definitely something

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I'm happy for my friend that he loves the champ

dim kindle
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but i just hate having that type of champ in my games

wheat notch
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but I want the champ 🚮 'd again

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like breathing fire is cool but

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why would you remove the core joke of old asol completely

chilly ivy
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I love the reset when he just picks up multiple kills on a large part of a map

wheat notch
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absolutely no juking about and fancy movement

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just stand still or Move In A Direction (but slowly) with your W

chilly ivy
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Kill jungler at herald

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Fly to top

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Fly back

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Triple kill

dim kindle
wheat notch
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i also dont like that asol q is burst based and not just a plain DoT something something player satisfaction they fucking hate DoT I get it but come on dude

chilly ivy
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Yeah q needed to just be just full non bursty dmg

wheat notch
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I'd prefer it that way but I know people would hate it

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DoTs feel so shit for most people especially because they don't outright tell you BIG DAMAGE

chilly ivy
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They prob made it for counterplay, but there's so little room there idt it's worth

wheat notch
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so u just get >rumble

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who does like 2000+ off of q r

chilly ivy
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Ngl they could have done like

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Q targets a point, you can move during it, but you cannot change the point

wheat notch
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respectfully

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that sounds awuf l

dim kindle
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For now i just need them to butcher his e size cuz thats probably one of the most stupid things ive played against in all of league across 12 yrs

wheat notch
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simply walk Out and you are even less of a champ

chilly ivy
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Probably

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Hmm maybe you can change the point then

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I could see funky angles with that

wheat notch
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Then you get . . . current Q but more annoying to maneuver? cheems

chilly ivy
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Idk, then you could remove the flight and give him smth else

wheat notch
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i do 100% want his W gone

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especially when it was the worst balance-around for his old kit cheems

chilly ivy
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Idk what I'd give him tho

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Maybe give him his old ult?

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Push someone the fuck away

wheat notch
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that would be counter intuitive

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push them out of your q

chilly ivy
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Wdym

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If someone is in your face

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You push them off your face

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It doesn't have to be a push outside q range or even near that

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Think of like, the old r pushing you out to max star range

wheat notch
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There's a lot of ways you could change him however: My brain does not feel like balancing him therefore I will call for him to Get Yuumi'd

chilly ivy
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Most battle mages need some kind of protection

wheat notch
chilly ivy
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I meant in my q rework case

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Where you could walk

wheat notch
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ech

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ehh

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shrug

prisma ravine
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I think his W is fine still

wheat notch
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i am not good in mental excercises

prisma ravine
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Its still got clear strengths and weaknesses

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And the reset is just there so he doesnt get fucked if the fight moves to a slightly different position

chilly ivy
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While the weaknesses are clear, its mostly "cc asol or you fucking die"

wheat notch
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reset is necessary i agree but it feels like an extremely dreadful bandaid on "we made him stationary"

chilly ivy
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I agree with wintry on this

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It's like

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Bad design imo, you make someone have a good spell with a huge caveat

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Then you remove it

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Because, get that, the caveat makes the champ unplayable/unfun

prisma ravine
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He can't redirect himself

chilly ivy
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In experience, no

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Rylai's is enough for his team to catch up

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Even a tickle usually results in a kill

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Although i don't have good sample size

wheat notch
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if I get rylai'd by asol im dead meat

night marsh
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Haven’t played vs it yet personally but there was one in my game that got like a casual Quadra kill so there’s probably some fucky shit going on

night marsh
prisma ravine
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Oh he was broken for a while

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Arguably still is

gray sandal
eternal palm
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I haven’t laned vs space dragon yet, but I heard Ziggs completely fucks the dragon over

wheat notch
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Totally clueless

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dapper kite
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im sure ziggs can beat asol if the game like

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ends at 20 min

wheat notch
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ends in 20-

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yeah

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ur lane is good into him and That's Where It Ends

dapper kite
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i guess technically you can hit him from outside his breath range lategame but like

wheat notch
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that will not happen

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because his breath range scales with levels

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and/or passive

dapper kite
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oh wait it does?

wheat notch
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just. because

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YEAH

dapper kite
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why

wheat notch
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Because

dapper kite
wheat notch
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He outscales 0bounce Ziggs Q at Level 12

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Fun

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👍

dapper kite
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this champ just seems to designed to win the game if he ever hits level 18

wheat notch
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Yes

dim kindle
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he wins the game way before that

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i posted this earlier

dapper kite
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Yeah but im talking like

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Even for people that dont have hands

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Yknow

severe cairn
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aurelion sol seems not that hard

chilly ivy
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he isn't complicated, but you have to use your w right or you'll waste it

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sometimes you need to make a drive-by and not a nosedive towards the teamfight

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and if you choose the wrong angle you can have little to no dps

chilly ivy
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pov you're 1-1 in promos to plat

eternal palm
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Senna is OP this patch though

chilly ivy
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i want to jump off a bridge post last game

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cause it was shit

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but like

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i did it

night marsh
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Thank the senna for carrying you

chilly ivy
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she was dogshit

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i will thank sivir

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she got a penta

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when we were down nexus turrets and 2 inhibs

chilly ivy
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thanks for showing me ziggs

wheat notch
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good job kidda

chilly ivy
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anyway, not playing ranked again in my life

eternal palm
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Playing seraphine yesterday made me want to spam seraphine for 50 games

night marsh
chilly ivy
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i get my dose of depression daily by playing 3v3 arams with friends

eternal palm
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Queuing up for 2-3 arams before tackling ranked is good practice

wheat notch
night marsh
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Sure kid

dim kindle
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yooo spirit blossom aphelios on sale

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been waiting for that one

slim terrace
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man this champ really is busted

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gray sandal
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i see you found @night marsh on his alt playing graves

dim kindle
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i just had another one of those "asol is not okay" games

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seeing asol with 700 stacks was kinda funny tho ngl

severe cairn
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bruh

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Clozer locked in Ahri

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I hate this

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so much

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unless you build luden's sorc boots shadowflame you're not gonna do damage on ahri

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idk why you ever wanna lock her in in pro play

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she's about as safe a midlaner you can get but all she really offers is her charm plays

wheat notch
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Diamond, huh

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+26?????????

chilly ivy
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Challenger wintey inc

wheat notch
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Like I don't apply a lot of things I should be applying to my games

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Partially because I forget, partially because they're exhausting, partially because I'm lazy

chilly ivy
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Well, as long as you can identify them

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It'll come with time

wheat notch
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Perhaps

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I'm just glad I've hit a new rank

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I've been plat since 2019

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Bronze 3 (S7) Gold 5 (S8) Plat 4 (S9) Gold 1 (S10) Plat 3 (S11) Plat 3 (S12) and now I'm in Diamond baybee

chilly ivy
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Gj

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I've been gold since the beginning iirc

wheat notch
chilly ivy
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And I've played since uh

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Lulu release

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I think that was s1?

wheat notch
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wowa

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tbh once i hit plat 1 in preseason i realised i can easily get diamond bc d4 is no different from plat1 lmao

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It's just blue plat 1

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was just a matter of time etc. etc. PoyoyoThumbsUp

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Now you're plat though right

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you've entered a new chapter

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~~if i had to say something though start buying mana crystal over amp tome on ziggs getting to sell refill pot matters nyaruhodo ~~

dim kindle
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lethal tempo nerf for ranged feels awful man because they made it scale linearly with lvl which is horrible because bot is the lowest level average

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so its actually a lot bigger nerf than it looks

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but they didnt nerf it on melee when its completely outclassig on yone yasuo jax etc

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also the idea of nerf dragons = nerf bot impact is true but realistically changes nothing
trading an early dragon for an early herald was already good but you simply cant play the game ignoring bot properly

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because in high mmr jglers are already making this trade
get herald dive bot pop herald and pretty much win the game off it

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Making the single drakes less powerful just like doesnt change that

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like overall nerfing dragons is a good thing imo but this making it somehow worth to not play for bot is a myth

eternal palm
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Also dragons have been op since they made the jump from it just giving gold to elemental dragons

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It’s kinda stupid tbh

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And part of the reason why jungle was op for such a long time

gray sandal
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jungle still OP

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always in top 2 roles in the game

dim kindle
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nerfing dragons doesnt affect jungle strength

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thats exactly what I mean

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it just means making certain plays and trading away a single dragon for it slightly less punishing

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but its no tlike that suddenly makes

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oh lets give up 3 dragons to play for top lane all game long a viable strategy

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trading 1st herald for 1st dragon is already good

wheat notch
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aww hell naw what did they do to my behated

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slim terrace
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ayo this looks cool as hell

night marsh
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I see there's a new gwen build in town

dim kindle
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fits the newer art direction for shadow isles/camavpr stuff a lot better

severe cairn
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WHERE'S MY FUCKING GWEN SKIN

eternal palm
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Rotting somewhere hopefully

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New astronaut fizz skin is so pog

gray sandal
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can u still Gwen jg? @night marsh

eternal palm
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Can you is different than should you

dim kindle
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its decent

night marsh
dim kindle
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definitely

dim kindle
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anyone playing?

night marsh
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At work Hahaa

wheat notch
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too eepy

eternal palm
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I’m free tomorrow after 3pm

chilly ivy
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I love how milio isn't enabled but you can still ban him

wheat notch
chilly ivy
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maybe he wasn't at that time

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i couldn't buy him

wheat notch
chilly ivy
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they don't seem to do well

wheat notch
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he doesnt seem like a champ u can pjck in all situations

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but yeah he seems equally strong as hell and weak as fuck

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it's weird

chilly ivy
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his numbers seem low, but his utility is through the roof

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and you can't give a champ both, so the numbers are justified

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ppl will adjust to the numbers and play accordingly in time

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or riot will overbuff him

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the things is imo

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he's janna

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he isn't as flashy as ppl might expect

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but holy fuck when he makes impact, he means it

eternal palm
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God, cait/milo, trist/milo is just going to be annoying as shit isn’t it

chilly ivy
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w has a big cd

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idt it's as much of a problem as you'd might think

eternal palm
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Might try out some Senna/Milo for the hell of it tbh. How’s the scaling on Milo’s only damaging ability?

chilly ivy
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90% ap

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smile

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one thing i noticed when i tried him on pbe weeks ago

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and idt if it's a bug or intentional

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q doesn't apply passive in an aoe

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only to one target (i think the closest enemy to the center of the explosion)

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he should have decent clear if he could do that and just qe for clear

dim kindle
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milo is very strong but hes very much not a pick whenever u want

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he is extremely powerful at counter engage

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and a high range adc can play very aggressively in lane if they coordinate with his w

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its a bit like renata wherr his ideal fight scenario is punishing an engage

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his q is insane at interrupting engage tools

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like j4 combo rakan w

dim kindle
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he is definitely a little too good

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like all around

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not sure what I think he needs to get nerfed

wheat notch
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When did they give Glacial so many support-specific interactions

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Why does it scale with heal/shield power and reduce damage to your allies

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I wanted to try this on Zyra mid but there's just no point I guess

dim kindle
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any players for today or tmr

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@night marsh @eternal palm

night marsh
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I can play like a singular game

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writing a paper rn

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when do you want to play

dim kindle
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I mean tbh if you got a paper to write go ahead and do that

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dont let me distract you for one game :p

night marsh
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nah, I want to procrastinate Hahaa

dim kindle
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ill ping you when I am ready not sure exactly when

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that ok?

night marsh
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ok

dim kindle
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maybe we can organize a clash for this or next weekend

night marsh
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I can't play clashes

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I work weekend nights

dim kindle
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ah understandable

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i remember when that was my life

night marsh
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ok I can play for more than 1 game now btw

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just lmkw hen ready

dim kindle
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ye sorry ill be here in 30 mins

night marsh
wheat notch
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Milio already hotfixed huh

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Guess he was too much

dim kindle
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@night marsh

night marsh
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kk

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@gray sandal wake up kid

wheat notch
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👁️

night marsh
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@eternal palm u2 noob

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@wheat notch and u2 noob

dim kindle
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na wintry pog?

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ngl though the ping from eu to na is fucking horrendous i remember

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its like 130

wheat notch
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150

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i can just play jax and its fine thuogh

dim kindle
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if you are down we aer down

wheat notch
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my favourite part of logging onto NA

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is that the new player menu is broken

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good client 👍

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Wintrytale

dim kindle
timber patio
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@dim kindle i hate this video LOL

dim kindle
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Ye was talking to ppl about it on vc xD

timber patio
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xpeke adc arc went crazy

wheat notch
timber patio
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OVIRAPTOR

wheat notch
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It's way harder to not die with ziggs in na VERYSADCAT

night marsh
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the birth of a new Milio super god

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wheat notch
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racking up way too many deaths

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severe cairn
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I want to join next time but I'm low elo trash

wheat notch
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It's fine

night marsh
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it's fine, we play with thugs

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and lukio

wheat notch
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^

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I drop by 3 ranks with 150 ping too

prisma ravine
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150 ping sounds awful

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Cant even play any of the fun champs

wheat notch
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I can play my champs just fine

prisma ravine
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I said fun champs nyaruhodo

wheat notch
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Fun is subjective

prisma ravine
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Yeah but none of the champs I find fun work with that kinda ping

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I guess Morde works

severe cairn
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alright I will join next time

night marsh
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Using morde and fun in the same statement

prisma ravine
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Being a raid boss is fun

gray sandal
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we can play tmrw

night marsh
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I work tomorrow kid

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Sigh

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You can join jib in line for getting wrecked in CYAC/NATS format btw

slim terrace
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this olaf was a real one

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dude fuckin camped my shit early and got us 3 kills on vi combined

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that maokai ended up 1v3ing at some point in the game too

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matchmaking has smiled upon me

wheat notch
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These elo gains are a bit more extreme than even before they murdered elo gains

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I be getting 25+ LP each win

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like lmao

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night marsh
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D3 EU Ziggs OTP Wintry Williams

dim kindle
#

D3 euw is masters NA

#

master wintry

wheat notch
#

if my gains don't fail me I'll be there in only a few months 💪

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(lying out of my ass)

dim kindle
#

i swear to god someone hired a rengar main hit squad on me

humble glacier
#

i am i wrong

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for asking my botlane to clear vision

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so i can gank

#

as fiddlesticks?

#

am i also wrong for asking them to group for dragon?

timber patio
#

Yes

humble glacier
#

ok

night marsh
#

Akali that girl
‘Kali go grr
‘Kali don’t stop
‘Kali don’t skrrt
‘KKali got a job
‘Kali go to work
‘Kali’s on fire
Don’t get burnt

dim kindle
#

Akali time to go to school

#

youll never be a rapper go become a doctor

dapper kite
severe cairn
#

I WAS HERE

slim terrace
#

the telecom wars going full hype huh

slim terrace
#

are twitch clips randomly redirecting to the front page for anyone else? I'm trying to watch some highlights for this game but it's messed up for me

#

nvm works now

severe cairn
dim kindle
#

always delivers tbh

night marsh
#

@dim kindle @wheat notch @obsidian bough who tryna get carried

dim kindle
#

i definitely need a carry

#

and I need riot to remove half the adc roster from my acc so i cant be tempted to play them anymore

night marsh
#

whats up then kid

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also you tyrna play ranked

dim kindle
#

sure we can do that

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my main i only do solo q but i can rock the other acc

night marsh
#

kk

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what's the account name

#

I'm a milio main

dim kindle
#

ill add u hold on

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sent

dapper kite
severe cairn
#

okay let's not diss lehend

#

the guy put in work

#

there's not even particularly anyone you can blame tbh T1 just toughed it out harder

wheat notch
dim kindle
#

@night marsh you ruined that alistars life

night marsh
#

yeah im sick with those qs vs aliq w

dim kindle
#

i had your w + rapidfire actually autoing from moon to earth

night marsh
#

you kind of just ran noc down from mid at one point lol

dim kindle
#

lmao

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jinx milo goes faking hard

#

you wanna go for more?

night marsh
#

give me 5 mins to eat this slice of pizza

dim kindle
#

you got it

night marsh
#

andf sure

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k im ready @dim kindle

gray sandal
night marsh
#

forgot about you scrub

gray sandal
#

you're nothing w/o me

dapper kite
night marsh
#

I wish I could find that tiktok about about irelia doing a flashy Montage with the keys she’s pressing and then getting 1 shot by a garen qer

gray sandal
#

demaciaaaa

dim kindle
#

i just turned on lpl stream and they are playing country during the time between games

chilly ivy
#

ez clap

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@wheat notch i executed 4 turrets in one minute

dapper kite
#

my clash experience today was 2-1

chilly ivy
#

still decent

dapper kite
#

ye

wheat notch
#

I thought it was sera mid so i pickd tali

#

and go whooped

chilly ivy
#

unfortunate

wheat notch
#

i dont have a good anti fizz pick anyway but

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god

#

that champ is so unfair

#

they banned both ziggs and swain that game

#

sigh

chilly ivy
#

tbh at this point

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ziggs is my secondary

#

i mostly play asol now

wheat notch
#

did you heed my advice kid

chilly ivy
#

which

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mana crystal and green potion?

#

i buy that on both asol and ziggs now

wheat notch
#

pogger you did

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stopwatch seems a bit trol though

chilly ivy
#

it's mostly for one use then sell

wheat notch
#

but its like

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10% off the rune?

#

It's 40 gold

#

😭

wheat notch
#

Syndra E does not need to be this generous with its hitbox lmfao

#

I'm a whole teemo shroom away from it and it still stuns me for a Very Fair Duration For A Burst Mage To Have

gray sandal
#

ekko stun is 2.25 seconds :^)

dim kindle
#

i honestly dont understand syndra e tbh

#

ever since her mini rework it behaves completely different

wheat notch
#

It's so funny

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to be at like

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40 mins

#

ace enemy team

#

and Ziggs runs from inner tower to nexus

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in 30 seconds

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U just cannot get this anywhere else

#

im lying tristana probably does this

wheat notch
#

me after i get beaten to death by a ziggs onetrick 4 times

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i am surely a mere puppy

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dim kindle
#

nah trist does blow turrets as hard

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definifely a ziggs W

wheat notch
#

the problem w this champ is that hes just too good

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(watch me lose-streak the next 2 days)

slim terrace
#

was that ziggs top

#

did you tilt a jax with a new brand of ranged top

wheat notch
slim terrace
#

damn

dim kindle
#

Anyone down for some games this week

chilly ivy
#

@wheat notch

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wheat notch
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bad skin

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sorry

chilly ivy
#

it was free

wheat notch
#

I fucking hate LeBlanc so much it is unbelievable

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dim kindle
#

diamond 2 holy shit wintry you are going to the moon

wheat notch
#

ah you want to fight me on terms unfavourable to me

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too bad my dash is So Very Balanced

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and i can just disengage for 0 cost

dim kindle
#

tbh its really hard to actually like finish out games on lb

night marsh
dim kindle
#

but her lane is insane

night marsh
#

Wintry is D2, I can’t believe it

wheat notch
#

i remember when i was allowed to buy the Banshee's component and play the game

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now the passive is dogshit or smthg

night marsh
#

The little rat has grown into a dragon

dim kindle
#

elo inflation season

wheat notch
#

its bc i have like

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shit mmr

#

so i get matched with d4s still

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and get like +23

wheat notch
#

because Ziggs only needs 9 AP from runes to work

#

double mr cpot copium

night marsh
#

I’ve been sandbagging ranked too much

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It’s time to bring out the Gwen

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I mental boomed my last game

dim kindle
#

my games have been going really bad

#

like either i play bad or i landed in the mental boom lobby

#

or i have to play with a yuumi main whos yuumi got banned

night marsh
#

Me irl

dim kindle
#

like my mid

#

just picked

#

kass into yone

wheat notch
#

oh man

dim kindle
#

i really hate playing with these full scaling drafts

#

ppl pick all the time

wheat notch
#

I never have to worry about it because my onetrick dearest is "win in 25 or die"

#

and if we don't die past 25 then 1 ace means I get nexus from inner tower

severe cairn
dim kindle
#

we take it

#

BTW MY TEAM WANTED TO FF WITH THIS DRAFT

#

WHEN WE WON LANES

#

BECAUSE OF ONE BAD FIGHT MID

severe cairn
#

kassadin was very useful

dim kindle
#

ye

#

kassadin into yone truly big brain gaming

#

I played fights so slow and pussy this game

#

the patience really paid off

#

they couldnt ever get to me

#

I really need to get good at consistently doing that

#

its 90% of the work on adc

#

at least on champs like jinx

severe cairn
#

could be even better with mobility champs

dim kindle
#

yeah well with some of those you basically have to take risks

#

well in general you sometimes have to

#

e.g. on twitch you cant really just sit back and afk clear waves mid takes away all your strength

wheat notch
dim kindle
#

also senna needs to get nerfed back into the gutter

#

mos tdisgu

severe cairn
#

I deserved to win this

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dim kindle
#

we got draft diffed so hard lmao

#

im also really fed up with playing vs wu being s tier perma picked for the 10th patch in a row

#

so impossible to play against when he gets ahead

wheat notch
#

yeah

severe cairn
#

my hands are shaking

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I got my first penta in 3 years

dim kindle
#

congrats

#

zeri is really strong when u get good at her

#

she doesnt really click with me unfortunately

severe cairn
#

she's really fun I just locked her in because I saw she was good rn

dim kindle
#

id need like 10 games in a row with her

prisma ravine
#

I just wish Bruiser Zeri was still the way to go

#

Titanic Hydra is funny

slim terrace
#

do you though??

prisma ravine
#

Yeah

slim terrace
#

idk invincible zeri isn't really the idea of fun to me

prisma ravine
#

Both of them are unbalanceable problems but Bruiser Zeri was funnier

slim terrace
#

aka literally one person dying once

prisma ravine
#

I like Morde remember?

slim terrace
#

morde is fine

prisma ravine
#

But yeah like, Zeri cant be balanced either way

#

Her kit is fundamentally fucked

#

So might as well go back to Hydra being meta on her

severe cairn
#

I love overgrowth on zeri

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dim kindle
#

zeri has really high hp p level so if u take overgrowth u get really high health ye

#

also dont agree about bruiser zeri

prisma ravine
#

Honestly, funny enough, I think Bruiser Zeri is probably more balanceable

dim kindle
#

current zeri is still a little too good but she isnt super insane

#

small number nerf would do ok

prisma ravine
#

Shes the highest presence champ in pro

#

She very much so is super insane

gray sandal
dim kindle
#

he definitely should get it lol

night marsh
#

later today

dim kindle
#

when are we tearing the rift

night marsh
#

give me 20 mins to tear through this lab report and I got you

#

and by tear, I mean cry

dim kindle
#

poggies

#

ah shit somethings come up

#

ill be around later if anyone is around then

night marsh
#

@gray sandal wya kid

gray sandal
#

let's go

#

@night marsh

#

getting on

#

was taking pics for some verification thingyy

night marsh
#

k]

severe cairn
#

bro

#

I am getting

#

so many unwinnable games

severe cairn
#

this is so tilting

#

who do I play anymore

dim kindle
#

just take a break or run some normals

#

i just didnt rank for a week recently

#

also ideally just stick to a small pool of champs

#

if you're still here in an hour we can run some games

wheat notch
#

Wow! I fucking hate the rune recommender!

#

It doesn't ask you for confirmation

#

and gives you bad runes!

#

now i got comet + cookies + magic resist into a Qiyana and can't do Sapphire Crystal recall on Wave 5!

severe cairn
#

I love how rune pages cost as much as a season 12 champion

#

:)

#

been rocking 2 rune pages for 6 years

wheat notch
#

Oh baby

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dim kindle
#

zeri lulu abusers ree

slim terrace
#

oof

wheat notch
#

It's very fair how Zeri can dash from alcove to her own tower btw

#

why worry about roams when u can do that without repercussions

#
  • toxic team + no coordination + yawn
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I'm also a huge fan on losing 27 LP because I got matched into 2 smurfs

#

That seems really fair to me

dim kindle
#

yeah thats definitely one of the shit parts of smurf queue remova

#

l

wheat notch
#

I just don't see how I deserve to have my mmr marked as lowelo against smurfs who're clearly masters+ and will get a morbillion elo from this game

#

yawn

dim kindle
#

yeah its the replacment system to get people into their actual elo fast

#

but its honestly worse

wheat notch
#

idec about them being smurfs its probably good enough practice but like

#

-27 for that

#

lmfao

#

its fine ill get it back later

#

but it just peeves me

dim kindle
#

generally they just shouldnt make smurfing more appealing

#

and they did

#

thats how i feel anyway

wheat notch
#

yea

#

i shouldve just settled for today with 45lp sigh

#

now im at 18

dim kindle
#

honestly maybe i just need to demote out of diamond

#

to get real games again

#

because this is just not it

night marsh
#

@dim kindle tryna play?

dim kindle
#

cant sorry

wheat notch
#

sometimes u get people who are Dog. Shit. repeatedly

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#

That's fun.

#

Living for the 20 minute no item Zyra 🤩

dim kindle
#

unlucky

wheat notch
dim kindle
#

lee died to hinvade

#

because he wasnt paying attention

#

and then legit forced fights over jungle camps 4 times in a row in absolute terrible situations

wheat notch
#

it's what it's

dim kindle
#

bruised ego

#

thats my ksante right there

slim terrace
#

yet also totally expected for someone with that name

dim kindle
#

indeed

#

no one toxic like junglers with anything mental in their name

slim terrace
#

"reformed"

wheat notch
#

whjat is happening

wheat notch
#

Why does Zeri get to buy 2 defensives and still deal shitloads of damage while I buy Crown and sink my damage by half

#

We won but what is that bullshit

#

Wish they could work on mage itemisation but then you gotta deal with >Diana, >Katarina, etc instead

severe cairn
#

no worries, zeri's getting nerfed

#

tho yeah zeri being simultaneously mobile, tanky(er than most other ADC's), and incredibly high damage is kinda unfair

wheat notch
#

They should do the Runaan's on Crown so it can't be abused by shitty mage assassins and can be balanced around ranged cretins pensivecowboybread

#

(LeBlanc doesn't exist, trust)

dim kindle
#

zeri isnt actually tankier to be honest

#

but yea she does get to itemise shieldbow and bt

#

And not lose anything

wheat notch
#

If I have to face my champions' pitfalls one more time I'm gonna look at what pro-play stats say and clone the strongest midlaner I'm At My Limit

#

😔

#

Actually Akshan sucks in pro and hes one of the best soloq mids isnt he

dim kindle
#

I think you're doing fine you cant magically fix all of ziggs problems

wheat notch
#

thats what i mean

#

my efforts would be better fit on a better champ

dim kindle
#

Oh yeah for sure

wheat notch
#

pisses me off so much

dim kindle
#

well at least if u dont pick him in every situation youd do better for yourself

#

like e.g. add a better blindpick to your pool and leave ziggs for when you get to pick after opp

wheat notch
#

would be better off

#

unlearning ziggs

#

bc hes so niche like that

dim kindle
#

i wouldnt say that

wheat notch
#

its super noticeable in clash

#

how rarely i pick ziggs

#

bc hes just Worse

#

than like

#

sera swain ori

dim kindle
#

What mages are even like omni picks

#

ahri is the big one

wheat notch
#

vik? i guess?

dim kindle
#

nah vik gets fucked as a blind

#

hes too slow atm

wheat notch
#

well

#

ads work for me too

dim kindle
#

still good

wheat notch
#

they get better items anyway grumble grumble

dim kindle
#

Akshan is crazy broken

#

as a ad mid pick

severe cairn
dim kindle
#

for solo q

severe cairn
#

I've just been abusing Annie for the last 2 patches

wheat notch
#

ah annie

#

real

dim kindle
#

ye thats solid

severe cairn
#

and it looks like she's getting nerfed next patch though

#

so I'll have to pivot soon

wheat notch
#

my ad mids have been gp and jayce

#

but i have no practice

#

so they kinda blow for me

dim kindle
#

yeah

#

gp and jayce definitely need bigger time investment

#

i cannot recommend akshan enough

severe cairn
#

honestly I've been enjoying vladimir

#

I just need to put more time into learning him

dim kindle
#

vlads really good for a selfish playstyle

severe cairn
#

Flash E will never not be funny

slim terrace
#

jayce I can play on aram but I need way more practice laning with him

severe cairn
#

I just struggle with spacing, specifically using my empowered Q in lane and in 1v1's

slim terrace
#

I played vs a cass one time and that was suffering

severe cairn
#

I got dunked on by a yasuo that built mortal reminder 2nd item

wheat notch
#

I mean I think I have the base mechanics relatively down for GP and Jayce I think I have both M7d on EUNE I just

#

haven't played in yhears

#

so runes and items fuck me

#

bc im clueless

dim kindle
#

on gp you get rusty really fast its wild

wheat notch
#

its ok

#

they made him noob friendlier

#

3 normals and ur set

dim kindle
#

i used to play him a lot but havent in a while and i was like hooly

wheat notch
#

crit fair

severe cairn
#

TRUE THOUGH

slim terrace
#

doesn't he still have the highest base health in the game

severe cairn
#

I first-timed him in ranked and went 0/9 the first 20 minutes but then I started oneshotting people

dim kindle
#

ye litteraly prowler auto q oneshot who needs barrels gg ez

#

cya later

wheat notch
#

Never even struggled with barrels tbh

severe cairn
wheat notch
#

just needed to adjust to timings over 1 game

#

and was fine

dim kindle
#

Yee

wheat notch
#

Reddit really overplayed gp difficulty to me

#

he always felt not that hard

severe cairn
#

tho I think that's cheating and Galio has the actual highest base health

dim kindle
#

gp is a lot easier mid imo

wheat notch
#

ok i should not say that thats a nono

dim kindle
#

Gp is hard in late teamfights when enemy adc actually pays attention in higher elo

#

you need to get more creative

severe cairn
#

Wintry letting her EUNE seep through

wheat notch
#

eune does not type like htat

dim kindle
#

but other than that ye his difficulty is a bit overrated

wheat notch
#

lmao

dim kindle
#

also gp builds give you way more haste now than before so its more forgiving to have fail barrels

#

hes gotton easier over time

#

Some top match ups really need you to be turbo clean though

#

like irelia you fuck up once with her autoing the barrel faster after jumping close with q and ur dead and lane is over

wheat notch
#

I'm already used to getting Irelia'd

prisma ravine
#

I wouldnt call Viktor too slow tbh

severe cairn
#

I'M NOT GONNA SUGAR COAT IT.

R + E1 + E2 + Q + Q + Q + AUTO + AUTO + AUTO + AUTO + AUTO + AUTO (ad infinitum)

wheat notch
#

I never even knew her ult reduced Q CD

#

why the hell does it do that

#

certainlyt design i swear

#

adds like 3 hidden effects for no reason

severe cairn
#

it's mainly because she doesn't build ability haste and if you miscalculate and mess up your Q you're a super minion for 7 seconds

wheat notch
#

ok and i think thats a fair drawback to have?

#

when the opposite is

#

not being able to peel away an irelia

#

no matter what

prisma ravine
#

... certainlyT had nothing to do with Irelia

wheat notch
#

did he not

prisma ravine
#

Nope

severe cairn
wheat notch
#

reduce it when used on minions

#

idc

#

Phlox???

#

shaken to my core

#

how could he do this

severe cairn
#

no I think he only did the mini-rework

#

could be wrong though

wheat notch
#

he did main rework

severe cairn
#

wasn't that 2018, not 2021

dim kindle
#

tbh as much as irelia pisses me off sometimes i think she is cool

#

and overall fine

severe cairn
#

I had a dream about Irelia so I'm emotionally attached to her

dim kindle
wheat notch
severe cairn
#

the dream wasn't creepy it just made me cry

severe cairn
dim kindle
prisma ravine
#

Also Im glad were getting some Kha changes

#

But why are they buffing Q evo to compensate nerfing the W evo?

wheat notch
#

no midlane kha

prisma ravine
#

Builds that dont evo Q are also hit

wheat notch
#

🔪

prisma ravine
#

Its probably just nerfing slow

#

But still

severe cairn
#

oh are the actual changes datamined

dim kindle
#

no just the standard rough outline thing

#

they post before

severe cairn
#

aaaaaaa

prisma ravine
#

Nah

#

Yeah that

severe cairn
#

what are they nerfing about the W evo

dim kindle
#

deaths dance buff wild to me btw

#

most likely the slow

prisma ravine
#

But Riots mentioned that they dont like Kha being a W-bot

severe cairn
#

I don't mind since I tentatively play fighters

prisma ravine
#

And yeah, the slow is the obvious hit

severe cairn
#

and I miss the ability haste

prisma ravine
#

But the compensation buff is poorly chosen

#

It should be base Q

severe cairn
#

Q's evo just adds the reset and the range right

prisma ravine
#

Aye

severe cairn
#

or not "reset" reset it just reduces CD

#

oki yeah

dim kindle
#

think they want q evo full lethality kha to be the standard and make sure its generally the best

#

not agurin kha zix

prisma ravine
#

The problem is

severe cairn
#

me when people build tanky items on assassins

prisma ravine
#

Thats impossible as long as isolation is as restrictive as it is now

severe cairn
#

😡

prisma ravine
#

The main reason Q evo sucks is because its not strong enough early and terrible late

#

No one is isolated lategame

#

You basically have to be half-afk to get isolated

severe cairn
#

out of all of the void junglers I think I enjoy Rek'Sai the most

prisma ravine
#

But yeah, Im worried this change is a net nerf when Kha rn needs buffs tbqh

severe cairn
#

I hope they don't try to tackle Isolation with 2023 champ design

prisma ravine
#

I mean its not that hard

#

Reduce the range back to its original range

#

Done

severe cairn
#

Blood Lord is the coolest Vladimir Skin but it's so old 😭

#

give this guy an ASU man

#

I guess Soulstealer is also good

wheat notch
#

Wintry may have 1 good lane phase as a treat

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#

God that felt

#

so good

#

I just gained 10 years life expectancy

gray sandal
dim kindle
#

that ahri is gapped my lord

night marsh
#

Paid actor

slim terrace
gray sandal
#

down bad

severe cairn
dim kindle
#

you guys think blue essence emporium is ever comjng back KEKW

#

think the guys from monetization numbers showed managment some convincing numbers regarding chromas

dim kindle
#

yes lets give bruisers more haste

#

alao lol alistar 47 base armor

#

thats crazy

dim kindle
#

@night marsh or anyone still down to play

night marsh
#

Driving back from locals rn and stopped to grab some pizza

dim kindle
#

sounds great

night marsh
#

Wait

#

Isn’t that Yasuo buff insane

#

Actually@nvr