Nothing to try and repro for you, beyond just reporting 'since swapping over to the experimental branch, the game in Paris is much laggier than it was before'. Not sure if that's part of the experimental branch, something in this particular patch or something else. I'm not noticing any spikes in CPU or Memory, but it's also visibly lagging a LOT probably 80-85% of the time. There are periods of about 10-20 seconds where it's like it was before then goes back to 2-3 minutes of very slow lag.
#New Experimental Patch Quite Laggy
ionic glade
pallid violet
ty vm Devonin 🙂
JAPAN
I have had to restart the game every ingame day after closing as the fps has dropped below 10. Havent been able to pin point if I'm doing something that causes it but it is after closing when stockers are stocking.
I feel it goes down slowly as the day progresses.. but then last ingame day it was around 60 and then suddenly dropped to 10 .. also after 8pm.
When i restart it is back to around 100fps.
Can confirm autosave freezes game for approx 10secs.. with the new notification of autosave.
I also recommend books all day long
coarse wharf
I can confirm the same thing geo, but im not doing anything in partcular besides restocking. Ending the day doesnt seem to fix it ; just a soft reload (saving, quitting to menu, coming back in)
coarse wharf
forn the devs: ive noticed each time it autosaves, it seems to get worse and worse
pallid violet
all my dudes in paris have their eyes closed... and they blink but dont open them lol
pallid violet
the noise of the storage door opening and closing in paris seems to be loud now... unless it is just me... but i have tried turning it down in settings but then everything else is too quiet ... was that changed or is it because I havent been in paris for ages
austere frigate
The noise of the storage door shouldn't have changed, at least not intentionally. I'll double check that the data didn't accidentally change.
I've been trying to look into potential causes for it but haven't seen a massive frame drop yet like you guys. I'm trying some improvements to see as they'll help a little in general but unsure they're the cause of the frame drop. To confirm, going back to the menu and loading again restores FPS (not hard resetting the game)? May help narrow things down if that's the case
pallid violet
I've been trying to look into potential causes for it but haven't seen a massive...
i have only exited completely out of game and come back in atm but i can try the other way.... im in paris atm and have spent one day there and havent had fps drop like it did in japan so far
i got sidetracked reorganizing store with new books
pallid violet
I've been trying to look into potential causes for it but haven't seen a massive...
i did another day in Paris and yes the fps slowly went down... wasnt a all of a sudden big drop like Japan...i just pressed escape , load, and loaded my save again and the fps was back to 70+
austere frigate
ty
pallid violet
oh and doing that made my guys eyes open again... yay... that was creepy
coarse wharf
I've been trying to look into potential causes for it but haven't seen a massive...
This is the case for me, yea, itll work temporarily, but as the day progresses again (and what i assume is the issue, autosaving) it comes right back.
If i notice it doing it again today, ill try a hard close of the game and then reopen entirely and let you know!
unsure if it will also help diag, but before autosaving would hard lock the game for me. Now it still allows me to do things, just at a super stutter to the point i just wait when i notice it anyways
Ive only been playing in the paris store at the moment
coarse wharf
Seemed to keep it away for longer; but i did encounter the same issue eventually
midnight mural
Having the same issue. The first day is fine and any day after is laggy to the point where its unplayable.
earnest light
If anyone has a chance to, can they run a day (10-15 mins) w/o opening the shop and just idle the game and see if their FPS drops the same?
Or if someone has a log they can send me from their last play when it lagged I'd appreciate it
pallid violet
how do i grab you a log?
look in the FAQ it will tell u
coarse wharf
and just to confirm, do you want me to flip the sign open to closed to get the timer to elapse or just,,,,irl time?
coarse wharf
heres my most recent log, let me know if this is anything decent in here or if youd like a fresh one
earnest light
and just to confirm, do you want me to flip the sign open to closed to get the t...
just irl time without opening the shop
coarse wharf
Got it! Got my previous log uploaded* and ive got the game running right now for you, ill grab that log once the timer is up so you guys can compare
earnest light
Thank you! And the prev log is from one where the fps dropped down under 15 fps?
coarse wharf
yep!
it was one of the ones where it slightly recovered though, im just enough of a nut i thought it through
my folder also has another player.previous log, if you want that one
earnest light
TY! That is super helpful. If not opening the shop doesn't lag at all I think we can narrow it down to 1-2 things and we can try fixing it. None of our computers seem to lag though over 5+ days and multiple computers
coarse wharf
i even closed my google chrome and my spotify for this
pallid violet
🙀
coarse wharf
unsure if it matters for testing / bug fixing but i am dual monitors and tab back andf forth sometimes. May be an issue with tabbing out of fullscreen (this game make some games kill their fps, although its never been at the same time ive experienced the fps loss with bSS)
earnest light
Every single thing you tell us could be helpful! I've been testing full screen because we believe the issue is arising somewhere from dynamically loading assets which was added to the experimental branch. But there's always a chance something weird is happening like the alt tabbing you mentioned
coarse wharf
i can provide my system specs too, but it seems to be an issue a few of us are having, so i doubt its one particular card or chip causing it
earnest light
Oh just to check... if you start the game and run for one day it tanks the FPS? or you have to play for like 10 days in a row then it starts lagging hard each day?
pallid violet
what store are you having the issues in Angel?
coarse wharf
Paris for me, havent tested any of the other stores yet (currently in paris over haul yet again)
coarse wharf
Oh just to check... if you start the game and run for one day it tanks the FPS? ...
results vary, but it usually has to "progress" playtime wise. I dont usually immediately have issues, unless it decides to have a fit
so more days = more chance
like...a virus?
earnest light
Ohh dang.. Geo, same?
earnest light
like...a virus?
Like a memory leak 😉
pallid violet
Japan was reaaaly bad for me... after closing in Japan just unplayable.... Paris was more slower down fall
earnest light
so like.. you hit the end day button and it just instantly tanks to under 30 fps?!
coarse wharf
paris is sometimes tolerable, othertimes im less than 10 frmaes and im like..,.okay, restart time
it bricked my pc once lmao
pallid violet
no not hitting the button... after closing when stockers where stocking
coarse wharf
no not hitting the button... after closing when stockers where stocking
they didnt like you interuppting them, obviously
earnest light
oh and Geo if you don't mind sending me your save I can try running on my windows rig. And first day after booting/loading it already lags?
pallid violet
oh ok.. im doing the test you wanted in japan atm... sooo.. now or after
earnest light
after is fine 🙂 ty so much
coarse wharf
almost done the 15 logs for you!
im noticing a few slight fps loss compared to my rigs usual preformance, but the experimental build is always a little gimicky
but no major losses
pallid violet
i cant remember if it was before or after i bought the cats again
coarse wharf
Log notes for above: Paris store, stood inside where there was a lot of "items", but did not open, stockers walking about
earnest light
TY, that's very helpful. If geo doesn't lag either staying outside without opening the shop I will try something out
coarse wharf
lemme know if you want any sort of other log manifested for you!
im off and just relaxing tonight with tea
earnest light
You can notice this log was 3mb and the other log was 26mb. There's a repeated error getting called when you're in the shop. I spammed that error over a thousand times on both my mac and pc and neither lagged the game though
Yours was super helpful! Sometimes you said you don't lag much so it's hard to tell if that was a big difference right now. If Geo has similar experience of no lag then I will 100% try something out that might fix it
coarse wharf
yea, sometimes the lag is...15 frames...othertiems it hard bricks me
pallid violet
im between 60 and 90 in japan atm... just standing at the front door
coarse wharf
i will say before autosaves would just hard lock the game for me. Now i can still move around while its functioning, but it seems to be causing the fps loss? at least from my perspective
pallid violet
auto save freezes for me
earnest light
Autosaves will "hard lock" you while it's auto saving because it doesn't allow anything to move while it's serializing all the data. It should return to normal once the auto save completes though
coarse wharf
hmm, so mines being funky
half the time i can move during it
ill play around with THAT and see if i can grab you more info
poke me if you want more logs!
earnest light
I don't think it's related to autosave because we didn't change anything relating to that in the experimental branch
coarse wharf
gotcha, maybe mine is just a weird one off
i know the new patch had memory change
changes*
im gonna bully the game intentionally to try to get a hard fps drop and see if i can grab a log
earnest light
im wondering if it has to do with changing legendarys
I would guess not but you never know! I have my suspicions right now but nothing affects our computers right now
earnest light
im gonna bully the game intentionally to try to get a hard fps drop and see if i...
Sure TY! If you don't mind, try to remmeber what you were doing the "most" before the biggest noticable change. Like were there a lot of stockers moving around, were you stocking/cashiering/cafe-ing, did you order tons of books, etc
pallid violet
ok so doesnt seem like the fps drops while shop isnt open
coarse wharf
Sure TY! If you don't mind, try to remmeber what you were doing the "most" befor...
can confirm it was me on cafe cashier with a long line of customers and or moving assets around in rapid succession
earnest light
Alright I'm gonna put in a fix and we'll ask Zach to build when he's available. He does all the builds for us
pallid violet
i also dont have any legendarys at japan atm cause i moved them to paris
coarse wharf
stockers are always running rampid at my shop in paris because im lvl 88 / 82 and we busssy
pallid violet
do you still want my thingy
earnest light
Log yes please! prev.log if it laagged two times ago. player.log for the non-lag one!
coarse wharf
the oen time i want it to act up in wont lol
coarse wharf
finally managed to get it to act up real bad, files only about 4k KB
i think i was around day 4 or 5 here
austere frigate
K, upped a build to get rid of some of the exceptions that we're seeing in the logs, give it a try and let me know if its still lagging (v0.8.966). I'm going to do one more thing to take a shot at resolving it blindly
coarse wharf
zach really said IM HIM
pallid violet
ok setting up to go back to japan and try it
coarse wharf
fully exiting everything to just have a clean slate too
pallid violet
first day in Japan went wonderful
coarse wharf
likewise in Paris**!
coarse wharf
made it to day 3 and had no issues!
austere frigate
Fantastic, got one minor thing to put in but if this is working without thrashing people's frames, not sure I wanna poke the bear of doing more to it that may not need done
thank you all for the help and testing!
pallid violet
❤️ np... now im going to have a nap lol
coarse wharf
Not a problem! Ill do some more testing today (read: gaming) and let you know if anything else comes up, but unless my pc itself was having issues last night, it did great.
coarse wharf
@pallid violet how has yours been acting today
coarse wharf
dropping this here because i did have another nasty fps drop, heres the "bad" fps log
and then the good "fps" log
austere frigate
Looking
ionic glade
My regular day in Paris was fine, my next regular day in Paris was mostly fine, but by the second evening's restock, I'm way low on framerate and it's laggy again.
pallid violet
can you add your player log here
ionic glade
pallid violet
thanks devonin.. Zach will look when he gets a chance
austere frigate
K, got another build up (v0.8.968). Should fix two of the logs in there and reduce a lot of the unnecessary log spam. Let me know if you guys are still getting fps drops after a couple days
pallid violet
this was 2 days in a row from Japan
oh maybe 3.. but it seemed to get better as it went lol
ionic glade
Two full days in Paris, including opening like close to 100 boxes of used books, full staff restocking. Basically no lag at all.
austere frigate
this was 2 days in a row from Japan
Just to be clear, you did still see frame drops over the 2/3 days in Japan from that log?