Picking the Chola deletes Your entire Navy when you enter Modern?

[fringe fiber]

This is extremely stupid.

[regal fjord]

Did you have enough fleet commanders?
all naval units are deleted, if you don't have any fleet commanders, regardless of civ

[fringe fiber]

I had 3 fleet commanders

[north mantle]

Ok well I dunno about deleting your whole navy. But it’s a new concept in the game that when you change ages you keep just enough units that you have cities.

[fringe fiber]

My friend kept his entire navy. I, the Chola with unique naval units, lost every single boat in my empire

I know the game deletes extra units. UNLESS you build commanders to store the rest. I had 3 fleet commanders. Plus they were all stacked in the commanders at the end of the age.

[north mantle]

Well perhaps because you switched to a CIV with unique naval units they couldn’t “convert” to the chola naval unit

[fringe fiber]

Theres no reason my navy should be gone other than bad game design

[north mantle]

But did your friend have more coastal cities than you?

[fringe fiber]

No

[north mantle]

How many coastal cities did you have and how many boats?

[fringe fiber]

1.) Coastal cities shouldnt affect your navy’s existence
2.) I had 8 coastal cities and 12 Kalams.
3.) As I said earlier, I entered the modern age with none of my boats

[fringe fiber]

Yes. This is called bad game design.

[north mantle]

Well I believe they implicitly do affect it. It’s basically game scaling, or descaling where it reduces everyone’s militaries for the next age. I think it makes perfect sense

But I don’t know your situation well enough so maybe it doesn’t

[fringe fiber]

I’m literally telling you all the details. 8 coastal cities. 3 fleet commanders. 12 boats. The game deleted all of them and gave me the single free ship of the line in the Modern age.

[fringe fiber]

Stop trying to excuse poor game design

[north mantle]

I’m not making any excuses for it, I’m fully aware this is not a perfect game but I’m patiently waiting for it to get better. And I don’t know if you’re the only one having this issue so idk if it’s poor game design or just a bug

[split totem]

Did you use those commanders at all? I noticed the ones I recently built acted like they didn't exist and all their troops were deleted.

[fringe fiber]

All of them had multiple upgrades. The Chola fleet commander is not to be ignored.

Like i said, theres no explanation for what happened other than terrible game design and/or oversight from the devs. I made a post about it to highlight this issue, not to seek for some kind of way in which i made a mistake. There was no mistake on my end. There is no excuse on their end. This is just stupid

[fringe fiber]

Yea my guess is that because the Chola have a unique naval unit, it doesnt transfer over to the next age as the ship of the line. As i said, my friend kept his entire navy and i lost mine. In other words, my friend functioned like the control group in that game, with regular galleons at the end, and i functioned like the test group with kalams at the end. He kept his boats. I lost mine. That doesnt sound like a bug. That sounds like the Chola just get screwed out of theri entire navy once exploration age ends.

[crude nymph]

Interesting! Create a bug report if you can. Makes no sense otherwise 🙂

[errant cairn]

It’s very clearly an edge case where the game doesn’t know how to upgrade the units properly so it deletes them. Not sure why OP getting grilled like this. It’s an important thing that needs fixing.

[coarse bear]

It needs to be reported in #civ7-bug-reports-and-help

This is clearly a bug, and an annoying one at that 🙂

[fringe fiber]

Is it a bug? Or did the devs just forget that the Kalams need to be transitioned into the ship of the line?

[coarse bear]

Well it's a bug either way right?

Cos either the transition didn't work, or the Kalams aren't working properly.

Something ain't right 🙂

[fringe fiber]

If the transition didnt work properly because of a coding error, then its a bug. If it doesnt work because the devs forgot to implement it, then its incompetence or oversight. If it’s something that the devs intentionally thought was a good idea, then its horrible game design.

[coarse bear]

And in all these cases, report it.

I don't see it being a game decision by design tbh.

[fringe fiber]

Isnt that what this server is for? Feedback about things that happen in game? I imagine the bug report side of their office is flooded with more reports than are in this server

[coarse bear]

The feedback section isn't for bugs though, support is a different team that deals with that stuff

#community-news message

And as said, this sounds like a bad bug 🙂

[fringe fiber]

I genuinely think they just forgot to code in the transition for the Kalams. Like i said. It was a multiplayer game, and my friend retained his entire navy.

[coarse bear]

😦

Well hopefully is fixed soon

[split totem]

You keep no navy from antiquity ever.