#breach-protocol

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pastel harbor
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Dawg

vague violet
flint crescent
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how long will the servers be down

runic flicker
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the explosion range is huge, and u have like 1 second to react to it, if youre behind cover then youre fucked

pastel harbor
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What’s the mips slug converter

vague violet
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gold mod

pastel harbor
pastel harbor
zealous wigeon
vague violet
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I have never died to grenades

pastel harbor
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Oh also

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I feel like

vague violet
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aside from like a singular incident lol

pastel harbor
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Claymores and explosions shouldn’t be able to hit u from behind walls

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😭

vague violet
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just break the w key instinct

nocturne abyss
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fireball

vague violet
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fireball

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fireball

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fireball

pastel harbor
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FIREBALL

vague violet
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I love that clip lol

pastel harbor
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Me tossing the fifth heat grenade at the enemy team

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Combo that with emp

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They can’t do shit

vague violet
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but like even in that clip the guy went down to a shotgun insta for overpusing

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and the guy getting fireballed was alone

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this is a team game yall

pastel harbor
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Lol

vague violet
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it’s really fucking annoying when battle royale players are chirping about how the extraction shooter should be balanced

pastel harbor
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It’s not hard to find good players in mm, I’ve found

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Like

wet sequoia
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If in doubt just check bungie.net they post all the updates there

pastel harbor
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I’ve legit had multiple teams that i played with from freekit move with me to outpost and we win lmao

vague violet
pastel harbor
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Like

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People saying the randoms suck

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The only time that’s probably true is like

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Perimeter

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Cus it’s a beginner map

vague violet
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idk randoms can suck but that’s not something you can control

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but what you can is how well you play around them

unreal sedge
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Honestly weird that shotguns have headshot multiplier at all

vague violet
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not weird

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you should be rewarded for Aiming, Actually

unreal sedge
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You still are

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More pellets on target

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Requires aim still

vague violet
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I think 2 shells to the face should do more damage than 2 to center mass, actually

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probably should be more forgiving at range falloff if you do vs don’t headshot someone with a shotgun

unreal sedge
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Lotta games, probably including MTN now that will do less

queen raven
unreal sedge
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Since half your pellets are missing

vague violet
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🤷‍♂️

pastel harbor
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It’s how it’s been since forever

vague violet
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it rewards cross hair placement

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yeah you’re obviously not going for a full headshot

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but you’re aiming higher

unreal sedge
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Center mass is still crosshair placement...

nocturne abyss
vague violet
pastel harbor
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^

unreal sedge
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Never played destiny

unreal sedge
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Also this ain't destiny

vague violet
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no, really?

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I couldn’t tell

unreal sedge
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Apparently not y'all keep bringing it up like it's relevant 😂

vague violet
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let’s put on our thinking caps for why that may be

pastel harbor
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🤔

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Maybe because

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Ummm

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The same studio?

vague violet
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nah. No way.

pastel harbor
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Yeah no shot

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That’s not possible

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Dawg so many of the guns shoot exactly like a destiny gun it’s kinda wild

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The repeater keeps making me want to go cowboy hipfire mode

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Cus of dmt

vague violet
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Repeater gold mod is bar for bar DMT

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circuit breaker is acrius

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stryder is mida multitool

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and in lore is actually from MIDA MIDA, it came through a temporal wormhole

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ce gold mod is rat king

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m77 is spiritually suros regime with the exotic trait

unreal sedge
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Treyarch also made some spider man games, must be relevant to cod

vague violet
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Longshot’s Kingmaker is a rapid hit sniper

vague violet
unreal sedge
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Y'all are😅
Same studio doesn't mean much at all. They are different games in different genres likely completely different teams. There may not even be any of the same devs

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Drawing parallels can be interesting but 'this works that way because it did in destiny' is silly

vague violet
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lol

nocturne abyss
vague violet
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thief’s grapple is identical to strand grapple in Destiny 2

nocturne abyss
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better comparison would be Marathon and Oni if you're going on that angle🤷

unreal sedge
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Mmofps = extraction fps🤔🤔

vague violet
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let’s put on our thinking caps

nocturne abyss
unreal sedge
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Seemed fine

vague violet
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every single Destiny veteran I know that tried marathon is good or above average at it

unreal sedge
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I could say the same for any fps vet...

vague violet
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ninja room

balmy cairn
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we cant actually be trying to argue that marathon and destiny are not extremely similar, right?

simple scarab
nocturne abyss
vague violet
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evidently that’s what he’s arguing

simple scarab
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in Pinwheel

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claymore posed up right behind a door from a rook

unreal sedge
vague violet
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and some of the highest pve achievers are also very very good at marathon

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snazzy bog The Italian

simple scarab
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tbh the Marathon pvp feels more like trials bc you gotta pay attention to your positioning even more than regular queue

nocturne abyss
# vague violet pvp

Destiny PVP frustrates me. I usually avoid it like the plague, and go back to halo for that kinda exp 😅

simple scarab
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think of it as a standalone trials of osiris game but hero extraction shooter

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minus the flying cheaters

vague violet
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it’s basically trials mid dungeon

simple scarab
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and sparrow-launching guns

vague violet
simple scarab
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I'm pretty okay at D2 pvp in general, which makes me Okay in Marathon

vague violet
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right the gunfeel translates

balmy cairn
vague violet
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I think arguing that there’s no correlation is Very Stupid actually

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literally telling us confidently that we’re wrong with no experience lol

simple scarab
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only thing I do not understand is why the BR gets outgunned by an overrun

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or maybe my hitreg is ass but i feel the br is underwhelming

vague violet
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the bully is literally like if Shay’s and immortal had a baby, shits disgusting

unreal sedge
vague violet
unreal sedge
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Not at all

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I could make the same parallels with completely unrelated games

vague violet
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I’d prefer it if it was ragebait

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yes but the argument is that they’re not unrelated at all

simple scarab
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it IS different games but it is BOTH fps games with similar gunplay. You WILL find similarities in positioning whether you rock a BR in D2 or Marathon

nocturne abyss
vague violet
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you just have no idea what you’re talking about

spiral parrot
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shooter skills-> another shooter
seems pretty obvious

balmy cairn
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All of this is stemming from a joke about gutshot straight, right?

vague violet
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yeah

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my bad yall

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that’s on me

unreal sedge
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Well a larger discussion about shotguns having headshot multiplier

nocturne abyss
simple scarab
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The WSTR rebuff might just be enough to two tap punch blue shields

spiral parrot
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I'm Diring my Marsh rn I got contracts man I'm an Arachne agent for real

simple scarab
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also a cryo kit/week is making the map more accessible to players and that's a really cool change

vague violet
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Not far enough imo

spiral parrot
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agreed

vague violet
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should’ve been one a day per cryo day minimum

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and if you haven’t extracted from cryo yet, infinite purchase until you do

simple scarab
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yeah I think it's a one use only

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for the week

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well for the cryo uptime

vague violet
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only usable in cryo ofc

simple scarab
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nadespam is unfortunately not being addressed too

tulip peak
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Would be nice if you could get like 2 a day would give players at least the chance to learn map without feeling like they need to invest too much

vague violet
tulip peak
vague violet
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yall nade spam is literally this

balmy cairn
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It’s pretty easy to not die to nade spam if you think about your position a little bit i won’t lie

simple scarab
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nadespam is unfortunately the most unfun meta there was since release

tulip peak
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Tbh normal nades being able to 2 shot basically anyone is a bit 🤏 OP

vague violet
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it’s not a meta

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stop fucking pushing into them

simple scarab
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in close quarters like cryo archive and some key rooms it's genuinely a tight win

tulip peak
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Other nades doesn’t bother me as much

upbeat hamlet
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lol chem nades my beloved

vague violet
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I saw the same clips you guys did

upbeat hamlet
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and heat

balmy cairn
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I think all of the nades are decently balanced right now

vague violet
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Mfers be fighting in a corridor 10 feet long and NOT LEAVING

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BACK THE FUCK AWAY???

tulip peak
balmy cairn
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green frags are fine

simple scarab
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"backing away"

The humble looking up 45 degrees to throw further:

vague violet
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“Yeah let’s just all die together in this corridor fuck it I don’t care about my loadout”

tulip peak
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They do 130 dmg a pop iirc

vague violet
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basic physics dude

pure prairie
balmy cairn
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also you’re not throwing a nade at 45 in cryo which is where most people are complaining about nade spam

tulip peak
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Look I have n issue with nades outside of Cryo

vague violet
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this entire thing is so funny bc I pioneered nadespam over a month ago and I already know how to counter it

tulip peak
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Cryo is only corridors

vague violet
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but it works because people just refuse to let go of W

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stop fucking pushing!!!!!!

balmy cairn
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it’s also veeerrry easy to back up a hallway and watch the enemy team blow all their nades on nothing

tulip peak
simple scarab
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what's funny is people straight up nade dumping a key room entrance of chem nades and heat nades

vague violet
simple scarab
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like i've seen 20+ nade throws in less than 30 seconds

balmy cairn
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did it last cryo and my blue shield team smoked full gold team because they wasted every nade on an empty doorway after we peeked it and backed up

tulip peak
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Also bubble nade does counter the other nades kinda

vague violet
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bubble is its own problem

balmy cairn
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I don’t hate bubble quite as much after the nerfs

vague violet
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but if you see a bubble come down your response should be to just wait it the fuck out

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genuinely hysterical to me I have to say any of this

tulip peak
vague violet
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the discourse has become this bad

simple scarab
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sometimes your knife won't finish the DBNO guys because it will genuinely hitreg on the bubble even though you're targeting the guy

vague violet
balmy cairn
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If I see a bubble and my team has positioning advantage or we know the other team is split you just blow that mf down immediately

vague violet
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pretty much

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they’re not Invisible anymore

simple scarab
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I saw someone drop claymores in and then dip straight at the edge of the bubble

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0 damage

balmy cairn
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or if it’s on a corner and you can get inside it just start slinging nades around

tulip peak
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Like bubbles are way better spot now tbh

simple scarab
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wiped an entire team with only claymores

balmy cairn
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flechettes are also great to throw in your own bubble to prevent people from pushing it

vague violet
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the hitreg on bubbles are very fucking weird but literally nothing is stopping you from just popping that mf esp post nerf

simple scarab
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i'm ngl i've been hit with flechette nades through a door

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so idk how to feel abt that one

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somehow when they burst out they phase through????

balmy cairn
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i do wish the flechettes didn’t follow you for QUITE as long

tulip peak
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Flechettes are the best zoning nade imo

vague violet
simple scarab
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literally 50m+ they follow you STILL

balmy cairn
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but they’re a great area denial tool that you can throw down faster than a claymore

vague violet
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you can shoot flechettes

simple scarab
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and they hurt tons

vague violet
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even without them tracking on you

tulip peak
vague violet
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you. Can. Shoot. Flechettes.

vague violet
tulip peak
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Guess that was a fkn lie

vague violet
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I promise you you can

simple scarab
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yeah it's like that one hunter nade in d2 you can somehow shoot them

tulip peak
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Gonna try tonight

simple scarab
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but only when they're idle

vague violet
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no

simple scarab
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(in d2)

vague violet
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you can shoot them when they’re tracking you too

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oh Ye

simple scarab
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yeah in d2 once they're locked they're no more physical

tulip peak
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Also wstr shotgun is so back

vague violet
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just press S man half the problems in this game are solved by it

tulip peak
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At least if you combo with melee finisher

balmy cairn
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so real

simple scarab
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also behemoth still ass in d2

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melee hitreg dookie

balmy cairn
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you will win way more fights if you press S and think about it when you’re at a stalemate or getting naded

tulip peak
simple scarab
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bruh I rememeber early apex

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two tapping with the wingman

vague violet
simple scarab
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quite LITERALLY the strongest heavy round weapon

vague violet
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shit is not complicated

craggy pawn
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flechettes are really good for zoning yeah

vague violet
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I don’t have to be a good shot (it helps)

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but you’re supposed to win the fight before it starts

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with positioning

craggy pawn
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I was in an outpost run the other day with some friends, we were in pinwheel and somebody was opening the flight control door

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and the moment it opened we snet like 6 flechettes at them

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zoned them all the way out of the hall

simple scarab
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yk what i'd fucking love in this game? bait nades

vague violet
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they’re called trap packs

craggy pawn
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real

vague violet
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and they blow up when shoot them

simple scarab
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no i mean a grenade that simulates shots when thrown

craggy pawn
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we have that

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it's called your gun

vague violet
tulip peak
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Nade*

vague violet
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that too

simple scarab
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but same shit

vague violet
unreal sedge
simple scarab
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silly ass weapon mod tho

craggy pawn
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I have genuinely never used ornithologist I can't tell if it's good or not

vague violet
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It’s not

craggy pawn
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mosstly because I'd rather use other mods

tulip peak
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Tbh I wanna make a bloody chain of them and basically bait someone into the corridor

craggy pawn
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stack overflow, bits per second and shit

simple scarab
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what if they add the "fuck you" grenade that crashes your game

vague violet
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If it was something you could do passively like mini jammer it’d be p good for baiting imo

simple scarab
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signal jammer-man

tulip peak
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Just overloads frames

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Better pc wins

simple scarab
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the "oh fuck my pc" grenade

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i'm 11 levels away from 100

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how the fuck do I speedrun that besides prio contracts

unreal sedge
simple scarab
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so just queue in and kill shit

unreal sedge
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Yeh

simple scarab
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free kit darsh might be the move

unreal sedge
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Your whole team gets experienced too, so if you're playing solos, that's going to make it slower

craggy pawn
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sponsored queue is in fact goated

vague violet
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sponsored queue is where the boys turn into men

unreal sedge
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No time gotta grind rank

simple scarab
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finding an outland in sponsored queue feels great

vague violet
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no gear disparity whatsoever

simple scarab
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finding an outland on MAINTENANCE however

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I got 8 kills once and was so mad because the last guy exfiled and I couldn't get my challenge done

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zonewarden my beloved please

pastel harbor
vague violet
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as a tactics player recon is fucking disgusting

pastel harbor
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I’m sure i can do well with her

simple scarab
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she's my beloved

pastel harbor
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One of the runs i had on dire we won a fight cus i stayed on the roof as invis assassin

simple scarab
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I love giving intel

pastel harbor
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W tactics

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Cus i had uhh

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I had the hardline pr

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So i could shoot very far

simple scarab
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i almost did it on the sekiguchi kit

pastel harbor
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Damn

vague violet
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Im only missing 3 kills during 1 ult which im positive ive done before but apparently you need to do it yourself

pastel harbor
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3 kills during?

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Oh recon

vague violet
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yeah

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I think it has to be you eliminating 3

wise jackal
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Going for assassins triple but I’m a stupid chud and can’t do it

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Spent like 80 nades camping exfils like a bum and still 😭

lyric panther
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Rook cant do intercept, why?

zinc mason
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why this look so weird

pure prairie
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the numbers aren't height centered

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I will never be able to unsee that

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The currency symbol is, the numbers are not. whyyyyyyyy

acoustic shard
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Man I hope we eventually get sponsored kit playlist for other maps, gonna be bummed if the only experiment was for dire marsh

vague violet
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Sponsored outpost should not happen imo

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and I’m saying this as someone who’s good at free kit frenzy

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I shouldn’t be allowed to farm pinnacle room effortlessly

zinc mason
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I think we need to add the same restrictions that apply to Cryoarchive to all other maps

acoustic shard
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I think for the end of the season, shit doesn't really matter, since everything is resetting soon anyway lmao

zinc mason
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maybe perimetr 0, dire 2-3k, outpost 3-5k and raize for cryo a little bit

balmy cairn
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we do not need antes for every map

craggy pawn
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yeah that's uneeded

pure prairie
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I don't think we have the player count to swing that

acoustic shard
balmy cairn
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even if we had 100k I still wouldn’t want antes for every map

craggy pawn
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it's also bad for progression, since DM has a bunch of important early game resources and putting an ante on that is going to just end with people hardstuck early on if they get unlucky and can't get the mats for the barter trades

zinc mason
craggy pawn
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or even just the upgrades to buy gear

pure prairie
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It also sends a very strange message if you're telling bad players (Who want to improve at the game) that they can only experience 25% of the content

craggy pawn
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yeah exactly

pure prairie
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Possibly less because of the lack of events or other tangible objectives on perimeter.

balmy cairn
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if i ran into 2 teams of free kits on outpost Im rushing pinwheel immediately because I know its nearly free

craggy pawn
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exactly

balmy cairn
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take the win and go next

zinc mason
balmy cairn
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also, free kits can totally smoke you no matter the shield if you play poorly.

craggy pawn
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free pinnacle room and command wing

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yeah

balmy cairn
unreal sedge
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I'd say yes for outpost but not the rest

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I get more free kit randos on outpost than perimeter atp

craggy pawn
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I'm maybe on outpost but I definitely don't think dire marsh should have an ante

balmy cairn
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no ante for any map unless it’s an end game map

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if you run into free kit enemies take the win

unreal sedge
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Outpost is an endgame map lol

craggy pawn
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eh

lyric trail
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5k is literally wtsr (mandatory anyway) + bot killing gun, shield and backpack

balmy cairn
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not really no

craggy pawn
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it's a lategame map for sure

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but not the endgame

acoustic shard
unreal sedge
lyric trail
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Outpost is marathon

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Its the game defining map

unreal sedge
lyric trail
balmy cairn
craggy pawn
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yeah you don't need to push pinwheel with 2 free kit fills lmao

unreal sedge
pastel harbor
lyric trail
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Ive said it before but just bring two extra blue shields to counter the freeshitters

balmy cairn
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most people free kitting are seemingly not worth the 2k to drop a shield to as they will die to the first enemy you run into anyways

lyric trail
balmy cairn
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they certainly will

pastel harbor
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FAAH

balmy cairn
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blue shield is like a couple extra shots landing

zinc mason
lyric trail
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Ive done this many times and its more than doubled my exfil rate

pastel harbor
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the servers still ain't open

acoustic shard
lyric trail
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Wrong

lyric trail
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I know exactly how much it is

acoustic shard
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k lol

lyric trail
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People play differently with shields

vague violet
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your smoke too different

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your swag too tough

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they’ll kill yiu schoolheist

zinc mason
vague violet
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well he’s not wrong

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make some friends or lfc

pastel harbor
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^^

pure prairie
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🤣

vague violet
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plus my lobby wipe from earlier on free kit was with a random

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I had a duo

balmy cairn
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You don’t want to lfg or make friends or play fills or kill free kits

vague violet
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just be better

craggy pawn
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lfg channels are full of horrors but sometimes one must peep the horrors

balmy cairn
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How is that anyone else’s problem

vague violet
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you live in a prison of your own making

lyric trail
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Is free kit queue gone?

vague violet
balmy cairn
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Just run cheap kits in fills for a couple hours and eventually you’ll find one or two people that are decent enough to add and play with

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shit is not hard

vague violet
craggy pawn
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oh yeah 100%

lyric trail
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Sad

craggy pawn
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it's not lost until you're dead

vague violet
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idk free kit frenzy was fun but it’s also sort of a solved equation to me

lyric trail
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That filtered the majority of people who wont risk gear

craggy pawn
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it's always clutchable

balmy cairn
lyric trail
zinc mason
craggy pawn
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thank god I got my horrible sekgen contracts already done at least

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I do still have to scrape up like 9 levels with them through standard contracts and coping but so it goes

zinc mason
vague violet
lyric trail
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Yeah they should put value caps and ranges on other maps totally agree

vague violet
zinc mason
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I'm not talking about any major restrictions—at the very least, if there aren't any free kits at the outpost, things will already be a little more interesting

balmy cairn
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The issue is, free kitting and doing zero to hero IS already interesting

pure prairie
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Isn't that the point of ranked though? You will face juicers and get the juice?

balmy cairn
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free kits are a large part of the game for better or worse

lyric trail
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Lets do something about it that doesnt involve me burning 4k to get a better exfil chance

balmy cairn
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disagree

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most of the anger of free kits seems to come from queueing fill with a kit and getting free teammates

lyric trail
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Yes

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Changing that would be doing something about it

balmy cairn
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if anything put loose gear based matchmaking for the team you fill into only

vague violet
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I don’t need a kit to smoke people. The issue was never free kits. The issue is people thinking they’re entitled to anything at all in an extraction shooter.

mental gyro
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The only fix they need is gear based matchmaking

balmy cairn
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like within 1-2k value

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gear based for the whole lobby would suck ass bad

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gear based for only your team is fine

vague violet
lyric trail
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Its a bad behaviour influencer

zinc mason
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The problem with most players is that they’re too attached to every single blue item they own, which is exactly why it would be a good idea to add some basic restrictions so people stop being afraid to play and lose items, giving them an incentive to equip better gear. Instead of running for a free kit and then bragging at school about how they found a blue shield in a locked room without even participating in a single firefight.

vague violet
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so play as aggressive as them?

candid goblet
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I ran into a pair of triage players in solo that gave me a med drone as a gesture of peace

mental gyro
lyric trail
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Oh stop pretending like you dont know what I mean

zinc mason
vague violet
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major spelling mistake

pure prairie
# mental gyro The only fix they need is gear based matchmaking

From experience: You do not want gear based match making.

Dark and Darker played around with gear based matchmaking for years. It turned into "Who can make the strongest build for each bracket without going to the next bracket so they can smack timmy and tommy who have no clue what they're doing" in every bracket.

lyric trail
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Playing agressive and playing carelessly are two completely different things

vague violet
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Mr latency

balmy cairn
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I think the current matchmaking is fine but I wouldn’t mind at least having some green shields on my team instead of frees all the time

vague violet
lyric trail
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This is literally what I do, Ive posted it here

balmy cairn
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however, I don’t want free kits removed or any antes on maps aside from cryo

lyric trail
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I bring gear for them so they slow down a bit

balmy cairn
zinc mason
pastel harbor
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oh shit marton update

zinc mason
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But how many casual players are left in the game? It seems to me that the casual players quit the game after a week or two.

pastel harbor
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dawg how many people have sent this exact stuff here lmao

vague violet
#

UESC infestation

pastel harbor
balmy cairn
pastel harbor
vague violet
#

even if you co-sign everything I say

balmy cairn
#

Every time I play fill I’d say 60% or more of the people I encounter are casual duos based off their gameplay alone

vague violet
#

I ran into a cheater on fill I think, my ass got blasted at flight control from destroyed wing with a retaliator

pastel harbor
vague violet
#

didn’t even know the range on that mf was that high

vague violet
zinc mason
candid flame
#

Yooooo chat I had an Idead

What if they let you put stickers on your shells too?

acoustic shard
vague violet
#

its rare but still a little annoying yeah

pastel harbor
#

that's weird

#

retaliator?

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wait which gun was that

pastel harbor
acoustic shard
#

Railgun

vague violet
zinc mason
#

We need new skins for rook

balmy cairn
#

retaliator is lmg

vague violet
#

we should skin all rooks

pastel harbor
lyric trail
#

Rooks are for friends

pastel harbor
lyric trail
vague violet
lyric trail
#

You all miss out on this with your traitor behaviour

vague violet
#

#DeathToAllRooks

pastel harbor
vague violet
#

It wasn’t even on final

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and I didnt even loot him

lyric trail
vague violet
#

I’ve died to enough rooks to not trust them

#

Rooks aren’t “people”

unreal sedge
#

I get not trusting them

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I don't get the bloodthirst some teams have😅

unreal sedge
#

I've had multiple teams nadespam me as a single rook😅

candid goblet
#

I'm a casual player :)

unreal sedge
#

I have nothing worth that kind of investment

acoustic shard
#

Ive only had one cool story with rooks, me and a fill team heard one in a vent, killed him, then went back to looting, as we leave drone wing, we hear someone go "Can we just... take what you didn't loot from each wing" we go "uhhhh.. sure, just let us come out first" So we leave through the top, they go into the bottom, and we did each wing, and command, they basically stood guard at each wing while we looted lmao. Then came across a couple trigger happy rooks, and those 2 started fighting the other rooks, then we all extracted together.

Every other time Ive seen rooks, it's just KoS

candid goblet
#

I once ran across another rook in a run who showed me how to get through command wing :)

vivid panther
#

okay so this update means what for the WSTR? back to 2 shotting blue shields?

lyric trail
#

Lots of rooks try to coach me on how to get through pinwheel once they hear me talk

split grove
#

wstr buff 🙏

candid goblet
#

and had another outpost game where we fought like 2 teams and then extracted with like half the lobby at final exfil

split grove
#

cuz in the short they posted they showed off the WSTR 2 tapping blue shields

split grove
vivid panther
#

I can get with this being a middle ground but still think a little ROF nerf could be good.

lyric trail
#

I didnt play the week of the initial nerf, was the change that bad?

vivid panther
#

I mean

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stack overflow still dropped people.

#

but the base WSTR without it didn’t feel very good as an initiator.

frozen nest
#

It felt terrible! shooting a green shield at 2M and not downing them just to be knifed is not a great feeling.

pastel harbor
#

damn my freekit perimeter run just ended cus a sniper shot me from like 70 meters away

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rip

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lmao

#

i killed one of their teammates too

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sad shit

split grove
#

oh yeah. that looks quite nice.

next nimbus
#

There's other prestige shields besides reinforced v2? What's that first one?

split grove
#

spectre armor, just like purple armor except when your shields are depleted, you go invisible

next nimbus
#

Oh, neat! I didn't know that was in the actual game. I thought it was just something left in the files

#

Never seen one before

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Where'd you end up snagging that?

split grove
#

and command + red outpost room. also keyrooms i guess

#

grrrrrr.... traxus...........

lyric trail
#

It should be a closer

split grove
#

i don't think shotguns should be "closers" in general. they should be the best weapon to use in very-close quarters

zealous wigeon
#

I’ve been selling my daily wstrs from Arachne since the nerf

#

It was a nice passive income

#

Maybe i’ll try it today

unreal sedge
lyric trail
split grove
#

if you think a shotgun shouldn't be the best option in it's range, then you are crazy

#

its not even an "all purpose" weapon, it just was the best option because outpost and cryo are close quarter maps!!

#

if i was on perimeter or dire, it'd be a different story. i'd be using a sniper or a railgun after the buffs

faint thicket
#

Bruh i have over 300Hrs and never noticed there were Reinf Shield in green?

lyric sluice
faint thicket
#

guess i've had use green shields for too little to noticing it

acoustic shard
#

180 greens are the only good greens

lyric trail
split grove
lyric trail
#

Yeah I think thats bad design

split grove
#

In WSTR range, you should be coming out on top. But since you have so little range, if you're even barely out of range of your wstr and in misriah range, you're fucked and you SHOULD be punished for that

split grove
lyric trail
#

Because you can slide 15 meters instantly

split grove
#

What kind of fucking video game are you playing lmao

lyric trail
#

Marathon

frozen nest
#

I feel like a benefit that a WSTR should have is it should be able to knock back players 2-3 meters. Would make it slightly safer against knives

split grove
#

Cryoclasm is NOT in marathon

lyric trail
#

Idk wtf you are trying to say now

split grove
#

bungie talk for "extended slide" from destiny

#

if you let that wstr get that close then it's your own damn fault. idk.

lyric trail
#

Every character in marathon except vandal can instantly gap close a misriah and kill you in 0.7 seconds

split grove
#

except vandal?

lyric trail
#

Vandal cant shoot while sliding

split grove
#

right.

#

idk it just seems like your own fault if you let someone from 15m away slide into your face and double tap you with the WSTR if you have a misriah

#

you obviously have the range advantage

#

(there's also this cool thing on your keyboard called the S key)

next nimbus
#

What is the actual measured slide distance in this game anyways

split grove
#

maybe 6

#

with destroyer you have a better slide

#

if you tac sprint then slide

lyric trail
#

So if you are in misriah range you can simply slide with a wstr and kill them

#

Reliably

split grove
#

Yeah. That's the Misriahs fault for not either backing up and trying to get the range advantage OR just not catching them while they're in the misriahs optimal range

#

idk how this is o hard to figure out

grand quiver
#

guys can you queue ranked just fine? I get error coded instantly

lyric trail
#

Slide is faster than back walking

lavish thistle
#

To the guy who lost to me in a 1v1 where they had the upper hand, thanks for the kit lmao

#

Materialist purple shield, purple bully, 3 bubbles for some reason lmao

lyric trail
#

Im seriously starting to think you people just want easy access to the best gun in the game and just make bad faith arguments so your toys dont get taken away

next nimbus
#

Even ammo has traces???

split grove
#

man arguing with people on the marathon discord is like talking to a brick wall. it always has to be "okay but what about this" and then "but you can just do that"

split grove
#

if you pick it up it'll give it to you

next nimbus
#

Oh, huh. Odd bug

lyric trail
next nimbus
split grove
# lyric trail You moved the goalposts first bud

if you are sprinting at me with the WSTR and I have a misriah I'm shooting you in the fucking dome. I obviously have the range advantage on you and i'm gonna kill you way faster than you can sprint, slide, then double tap me man.

lyric trail
#

And you will lose because the wstr has a faster ttk

split grove
#

How long have you been playing first person shooters??? How long have you been playing MARATHON

lyric trail
#

200 hours

split grove
#

IN THIS SITUATION YOU SHOOT THE GUY

woeful parcel
#

Do we have tldr on the wstr changes? 2 shots blue now?

split grove
#

YOU SHOOT HIM

split grove
#

think so

lyric trail
#

And you lose because they are instantly in range and you are in between firing rounds

split grove
#

you're an idiot

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holy fuck

#

gg

lyric trail
#

Ad hominem

woeful parcel
#

Trolling again I see

#

😂

zealous wigeon
#

Can someone show me the new skinn i cant open the game rn

lyric trail
#

Im not trolling

woeful parcel
#

War, war never changes

lyric trail
#

Wstr is legitimately a better shotgun than misriah

#

Its irritating

#

Im passionate because im mad about it

acoustic shard
rain solstice
#

have you played with gold misriah

lyric trail
#

I havent played post nerf but im worried that they buffed it

lyric trail
lyric trail
acoustic shard
#

All I use are the Achromatic Rush and Arachne skins though, hard to top those for me.

lyric trail
#

I just use shadow index

#

For triage whom I am forced to play against my will

acoustic shard
#

Only have vandals so far, working on it for Thief rn

simple scarab
#

Just got into pinwheel and it was Rook galore

#

it was our crew vs another crew and we both hired two Rook hitmen

pure prairie
#

I have returned from automod jail.

woeful parcel
#

Especially if you fuck up mid convo with someone lol

lyric trail
lyric trail
woeful parcel
#

Ive gotten it multiple times for using rtttttttard

lyric trail
#

Lol

woeful parcel
#

Just autobans you for an hour minimum

lyric trail
#

Oh yeah ive got hit with it many times

#

Usually for disparaging this horrible yuri tag that seems to have taken hold

mossy swallow
pure prairie
# lyric trail What did you say?

I was talking about gear brackets and how if we introduced gear based matchmaking we would have people doing something, not even realizing that the word has a new meaning now.

#

As soon as I sent the message I went "Fuck, that word doesn't mean that anymore" 💀

lyric trail
#

Smurfing?

#

No

#

Hmm what word will get me banned

pure prairie
#

The opposite of a bear (In gay communities)

lyric trail
#

Oh I had no idea that word had a non gay meaning lol

pure prairie
#

loooool

#

Yep. It's basically smurfing, but on the same account. You use to keep the account at certain break points so you always went against weaker toons and would rack up rep

lyric trail
#

Oh okay i have heard that in terms of dark souls 1 pvp

rare ore
lyric trail
#

Thats where I tried it and none of my kills have counted so far :/

cyan nest
#

If yall had a hoard of UESC attacking u which u chooseing to help u fight them off.

A random runner with no mic.

Or

Halo 3 sergent johnson on a snowy ridgeline with a spartan lazer (if u know u know)

rare ore
#

I got mine from the spine to the low ground before west gate

woeful parcel
#

We talking the vandal 20m

rare ore
#

Yea

woeful parcel
#

Maintenance roof to the bottom works I think?

#

P easy place to wait for ppl

rare ore
#

Maintenance spine to maintenance exfil is like 19.8 meters

woeful parcel
#

Or is ir exactly 20m? I havent looked into it yet as I knew it was bs

#

Oof aight haha

rare ore
#

They can be down the stairs in the work shops or in the grass to the north

#

Or maybe east towards AI uplink if there's no fog

cyan nest
#

Wouldnt the top of ai uplink building work... or like, the top of intersection?

pure prairie
soft prawn
verbal sentinel
#

beautiful

wooden meadow
#

Is the shotgun still ass

latent trellis
soft prawn
# wooden meadow Is the shotgun still ass

It won't 2 shot down a blue shield but will leave them with 10hp so, 2 shots and a quick melee will for sure down a blue shield. If you have 40 melee dmg and hit all shotgun pellets with a few to the head, then 2 shots and melee will down a purple/gold shield.

rare ore
cyan nest
acoustic shard
cyan nest
acoustic shard
lyric trail
#

Vandal just has some very awkward challenges that dont play to her kit

woeful parcel
#

The highlight video for todays patch

soft prawn
#

A runner has a base of 120hp, shields give 20hp per shield slot. Blue shield is 3 shield slots. So, 20x3=60. So a runner with full blue shield has an effective HP of 180.

unreal sedge
#

I thought runner HP was 110

#

120 seems consistent though

#

Even leaving them with 10 means a good punch knocks them even without sucker

#

Should work on purples too, punch does more than 30

soft prawn
#

WSTR does 170 dmg, leaving runner with 10hp, meaning 2 shots and a quick melee will down a full blue shield.

Purple/Gold shields have 4 slots giving an effective HP of 200. 2 shots from WSTR leaves them with 30hp, so you would need a minimum of 30 melee dmg to 2 shot + knife hit to down a purple/gold or 40 melee dmg with a couple pellets hitting head for boosted pellet dmg to 2 shot + quick melee.

unreal sedge
#

Punch is 1/2 listed melee so as long as you have 60 that works

soft prawn
unreal sedge
#

Yeah

#

So 60+

#

Not too hard to get

split grove
#

feel a little dumb asking this; does circuit tracers proc on a down when fighting runners? I look for other mods other than tracers because i feel like it doesnt help too much in gunfights in the moment

woeful parcel
queen raven
queen raven
woeful parcel
#

Aight. Ye was just going off what I saw people saying. Tbh I tought blue shield was 160 haha. Lotsa false info out there.

queen raven
#

The blue shield in the footage is not full hp

queen raven
woeful parcel
#

Ye

split grove
#

at base, runner HP is 120+20(white shields)

woeful parcel
#

Well it doesnt change much tbh. If im using a wstr its got stack overflow with it

#

And im fine with rook not being a team killing machine with base wstr

queen raven
#

That’s where the confusion comes from

queen raven
woeful parcel
#

Oh for sure. I stock up when its on barter

queen raven
#

You can strip it off blue ares or green m77 from factions

queen raven
#

I’ve sorely neglected traxus

split grove
woeful parcel
#

Ive bought the chip yeah

#

Just rng

split grove
#

if you have Traxus upgraded enough, you can buy 4 blue stack overflows a day for 1.0k each

queen raven
#

Big news, I’ll have to keep my eyes out

woeful parcel
#

I had blue mini jammers one day. Bought all I could haha

split grove
#

but they do come on for barters

queen raven
#

Maybe I’ll actually have to level traxus

#

I usually rip mine from the green m77

split grove
#

the progression you get from the factions is amazing

queen raven
split grove
#

don't skimp on em.

queen raven
#

Yeah I’ve got cyac and Arachne vip, nucal 27 and I’m working on seki rn

split grove
#

thankfully i've got all my factions to lvl 30+ but i'm STILL working on nucal, MIDA and arachne level ups

#

FIVE. HUNDRED. HAZARD CAPSULES.

vivid panther
#

yeah these gold salvages are gonna kill me.

pastel harbor
#

what's goodie gang

#

i spent the last 2 dire marsh runs trying to do my traxus contract

#

pmo bro

#

it's at algae ponds

#

so people keep going there

lyric trail
#

What is even at algae, why do peoplr go there?

#

Ive been there like once for a contract

#

In 200 hours

pure prairie
#

Scorch Warden spawns at Algae Ponds

unreal sedge
#

Lockboxes

vague violet
lyric trail
#

Oh my god ive never killed scorch warden

unreal sedge
#

Gasp

#

Kind of weird that the tox map has the scorch warden and the fire map has the tox warden

pure prairie
#

That was always strange to me too

craggy pawn
#

it's a tad odd yeah

#

but yeah, algae only has like one contract on it

zealous wigeon
#

I finished co evolution 4/5

craggy pawn
#

it's a lockbox spawn, boss spawn, a safe can spawn there, and some arms lockers

craggy pawn
zealous wigeon
#

I mean idk what to say

unreal sedge
craggy pawn
#

oh yeah and secured resources

unreal sedge
#

I thought that's what you meant by safe

#

The wall safes can be anywhere

craggy pawn
#

there';s stuff at algae ponds, but there's also genuinely no contracts there besides I think one Traxus one?

#

Unsanctioned Hostilities 1 or 2, I don't recall which

zealous wigeon
#

Well

#

Co evolution 5/5 actually seems

#

Easier

#

Than this

proud ridge
#

you have to do all the steps from 4/5 it's just condensed

zealous wigeon
#

😞

craggy pawn
#

unfortunately, you still need to go to bio research

#

it is technically easier

proud ridge
#

you need to go get a chitin sample and take it to bio and make the thing then take it to quarantine THEN do the fuckin lockdown

craggy pawn
#

bnecause you don't need to go to complex

#

but you'll probably enmd up AT complex anyway making the journey from AI to Bioresearch

proud ridge
#

yeah instead you just gotta trigger a lockdown that tells the whole map you're doing 5/5

zealous wigeon
#

So anti virus is needed for this

#

Great

craggy pawn
#

yes

zealous wigeon
#

No free kit for me

proud ridge
#

yes, you need av which means you can't free kit it

#

it's pain

zealous wigeon
#

Its contested too

craggy pawn
#

one for the simbiont and probably another for the actual lockdown

craggy pawn
#

yeah, iut's bad

proud ridge
craggy pawn
#

ngl after a point would it suck so much to just

#

leave thje biochain in quarantine

proud ridge
#

so you don't need to bring extra

vague violet
#

sunny was telling me in dms it “doesn’t seem that bad”

proud ridge
#

just need to bring 1

vague violet
craggy pawn
#

no Sekgen definitely has the hardest contracts

#

it only doesn't seem that bad because it doesn't say bioresearch onb the tin

vivid panther
#

the only coevo quest that gave me trouble was the one where I had to kill a runner because I was doing it in solos or duos and by the time I’d get what I’d need, it would make it hard to find runners

craggy pawn
#

despite still needing to go there

craggy pawn
#

managed to get it done there

proud ridge
#

1000 rooks watching as uesc push you

vivid panther
#

the rest of them I completed pretty easily.

craggy pawn
#

final Mida quest is challenging but like

#

you don't need to exfil, ironicaly

#

as long as you get into command wing and don't comically fumble, you've got it

vague violet
#

not even killed just down

vivid panther
#

final mida quest is actually my favorite quest.

craggy pawn
#

damn, downed? tough

zealous wigeon
#

Bro

proud ridge
#

i'm not even trying that quest before i wipe lobby

vivid panther
#

yeah. I saw it happen in a different run I was in.

#

does suck you miss what’s happening outside while you’re doing the quest.

vivid panther
#

escape will make me big O

graceful aspen
#

Big O what?

vivid panther
#

the big O.

zealous wigeon
#

Is traxus 5/5 last contract bad

#

I got 4/5 and 5/5 left

#

4/5 seems chill

stiff zodiac
vivid panther
#

where neck

vague violet
#

they just finished MIDA pt 2 2/6 today

#

most of MIDA ones are fighting bots

#

Nucal is just scans and stuff

#

Traxus is resource stuff it’s not bad

zealous wigeon
#

I’ve dine all nucal

#

They were chill

vague violet
#

MIDA is just fighting bots on outpost

#

so just a typical outpost run heyo

zealous wigeon
#

Yo sekgen quest info is so long it like

#

The text

#

Goes over the quest bar

#

U have to hover over it

#

To read it fully

vague violet
#

Nona loves yapping at you

zealous wigeon
#

Not ridiculous?

vague violet
#

stupid ass worm

zealous wigeon
#

Those’ll be more chill

#

Comparatively

#

Just wanna do this first to get it out of the way

vague violet
#

yeah plus for most MIDA ones they’re like out of the way, the odds of you running into a player is actually pretty low

proud ridge
# vague violet stupid ass worm

nona be like

"I have your best interests in mind runner"

Contract objective: staple your balls to a tree and overheat 6 times

vague violet
#

only 2 make you go into pinwheel iirc

zealous wigeon
#

Isnt the final one pinwheel too?

#

I did 2 alr thankfully

vague violet
#

yeah but it locks the door

zealous wigeon
#

Ohhhh

vague violet
#

so if anyone tries to come in or go out they just get to watch you duel bots

zealous wigeon
#

Do u even need to exfil for it ?

vague violet
#

for the final one not even

zealous wigeon
#

Oh whew

vague violet
#

for the other one I think you do but you just shoot boxes in drone wing and dip

zealous wigeon
#

Yeh. I did that

#

Was easy

proud ridge
#

and then fuck you up lol

zealous wigeon
#

Oh :(

vague violet
#

oh

#

well that’s rude

zealous wigeon
#

I hope nobodys mean…

vague violet
#

that does sound like something I’d do to someone

#

to be fair

#

it’s only okay when I do it

zealous wigeon
#

Lmao

#

True ..

vague violet
#

me sowing: haha yeah this rocks
me reaping: dude what the fuck that sucks

zealous wigeon
#

How it be

#

Actual goat dev team

runic flicker
minor spoke
#

so is it a mechanic or a bug that a shielded usec smacking you can send you into a wall and instakill you?

vague violet
# zealous wigeon

yuuup I'm abusing gold ares while I still can #CryoArchiveBouttaFeelThisOne

slow light
#

Did anyone else have like an error with the server earlier today

#

I thought I got banned but I hadn’t talked in here in a month

unreal sedge
unreal sedge
minor spoke
#

nope, ever dealt with phalanx in d2, same exact thing

zealous wigeon
#

So u got atleast 1 cryo week

vague violet
#

tempting...

vague violet
zealous wigeon
#

Awesome

#

I can hop on cryo w u

#

Might as well use my gold shields

#

They’re not even much better than purple its all about aura

slow light
proud ridge
vague violet
vague violet
zealous wigeon
#

Idk if that’s enough nades

vague violet
#

might need more frags...

zealous wigeon
#

Imagine shooting ur gun in cryo

vague violet
#

how barbarous

#

never met a problem more grenades couldn't solve

runic flicker
#

am I going crazy? iim sure these were at 80 for max reinforce and 100 for unfazed

vague violet
#

someone just 3 tapped me with the punch through purple shields goddamn

#

nice shots

runic flicker
#

so many tagss lmfao

whole prawn
vague violet
tacit light
tacit light
#

i have 2 stacks of frag nades btw

#

so 60

vague violet
tacit light
#

3 games no lockdowns yet

#

in my third hoping it happens

vague violet
#

its rly funny cuz I lost like 40k (around 4 straight purple kits) today had 1 good run where we snatched someone's purple key chain on outpost and i'm basically back up 30k

silent lodge
#

say less

vague violet
#

MIDA 6/6 complete

midnight narwhal
#

I would love some advice had a rook named "Bubbles" on Dire MArsh just auto fire the new outlaw sniper rifle in full auto at us and then jump about 50m to get to my body and then laugh and kill me. full auto outlaw??? single shot sniper rifle LOL

chilly egret
#

My advice is report for cheating

midnight narwhal
#

i have done so. but dire marsh is gettin gout of hand

pastel harbor
#

first gold mod!

#

is this a reference to dmt @vague violet

vague violet
#

its basically verbatim what darkforged trigger does

pastel harbor
#

is it like dmt

#

or is it just like mid

vague violet
#

i think it's pretty mid lol

pastel harbor
#

alr

#

no hipfire then

vague violet
#

yeah you also only get iron sights

pastel harbor
#

that's fine

runic flicker
fiery widget
#

Rare mid-air bingus

lavish vine
#

</3 killed last minute on exfil as rook

zealous wigeon
#

Lowkey i once helped my team kill a rook on exfil & they had lotsa purps on em

#

I still feel guilty

#

This was multiple days ago tho

lyric trail
#

Just brought gold shields knto a match and purple squads were just full sprinting away from me

#

Jokes on them I cant actually aim

zealous wigeon
lyric trail
#

Or secure kills

zealous wigeon
#

Our bags were FULL

#

the Rook just took stuff we left behind

zealous wigeon
#

But having a gold shield gives you

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scary aura

lyric trail
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Aura I guess

zealous wigeon
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Yes…

lavish vine
zealous wigeon
lyric trail
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I did have a reinforced and my friend had a spectre

zealous wigeon
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99% of Rooks stop queuing before they hit it big

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👁️👁️

runic flicker
vague violet
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I used to pray for times like this @zealous wigeon

zealous wigeon
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Damnnnn

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Good shit

vague violet
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teammate hit synapse cube too 🥹

zealous wigeon
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Shoutouts…

vague violet
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finally broke the 6 digit credit barrier

zealous wigeon
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That gold sellable is 12k a pop

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I think

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Thsts crazy value

vague violet
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yeah

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and 4 for the ourples

zealous wigeon
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Real nice

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I cant wait to be done with co evo 5/5 so i can spam outpost endlessly again

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That’s home

flint crescent
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got all the loot from my greenhouse vault

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kinda mid lowkey

lavish vine
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This is a decent haul but let’s see if I live

split grove
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lookin good ;D

odd heron
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Anyone else's game just completely get borked? Have to uninstall and reinstall the whole thing bc of a beagle error.

vague violet
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dog i'm doing a template run and i swear to god i hear TWO key rooms go off within 5 minutes of each other WHAT THE FUCK

vague violet
drowsy basin
smoky dome
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of all the things you put materialist+ on...

drowsy basin
vague violet