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I have 1200+ hours in an extraction shooter with explicit and visible sbmm
It's great
Outbuddied by bungie
And still very unpredictable
Which one has it?
Hunt showdown is the one I am talking about having time on
horrifyingly cursed fact about those shell casings, wow
bungie you gotta stop doing this to people
I think you mean "extremely peak"
🔥
since its buffs have had some time now, how do we feel about recon compared to ther shells
Still rough
The game has level based match making, I mostly match with players lvl 90 and am lvl 88 myself
No mobility makes it really hard to choose over destroyer, vandal, thief, doesn't have the utility of recon or assassin
Ah, will admit...never got into it. Looked really good...and tried to get into it....but just couldn't for some reason. I've heard good things about it though. Either way, can't really speak on that one. What I can speak on is Tarkov had like no filtered matchmaking and it was the most fun I've ever had in a FPS. Going into a match in Factory with a buddy who was naked with a pistol and him showing up with an absolute full endgame kit because he shot the guy through the visor of his helmet....you wouldn't get moments like that with sbmm....no sbmm allows for the epic moments to happen. That's what I'm talking about with the randomness. Is it brutal on the newer players? Yes...but the genre isn't supposed to be kind and happy and "fair". It's brutal, rough, confusing, anxiety inducing....it's not a game for the general player. It's a game that forces you to be better, to seek out how you can improve.
It's loosely based on lvl to a degree....but it's not the only thing taken into account. Also, season level is not an indicator of skill at all.
No new player will ever get this experience because marathon armor doesnt work like tarkov
Why wouldn't you get those moments? What about sbmm precludes that?
As far as brutal to new players hunt is also pretty notorious for that😅
The genre is just gonna be like that
If you squad fill and are gear diffed by an organized three stack with endgame gear you have near 0 chance of getting any type of participation
There's a chance but it's low
No shop uodate today?
Yeah I know....not that specific one...but they will have the moments of killing a kitted player in a gun fight that they absolutely should've lost, but instead got the win. We see it all the time in here.....look at some of the screenshots posted in this channel....it's full of, "Check what I got from this player...." Or "Look what this dude risked!" The moments still happen.
Sbmm doesnt preclude that though
It sounds like you're equating gear mismatch with skill-based matchmaking. You're still going to have plenty of gear mismatches. I'm not arguing for gear-based matchmaking
Would Cryo solos be good yes or no?
School I crashed on you last time bc I thought you were someone else apologies
Yes, but they need to tweak the map and the bosses a bit to make it viable for a solo. Right now a solo just can't bring in enough ammo. 😂
Agreed I think it’d be so worth it tho, Cryo solo sounds like a horror game
Amending a missing patch note from 1.0.6.1:
➡️ WSTR Combat Shotgun, MIPS Slug Converter Mod: Adjusted long range slug performance to rein in extreme outlier kills and to align with the overall damage reduction, while we work on a more comprehensive balance pass.
For additional information on the WSTR tuning, please see @Ziegler_Dev's post:
QRT: MarathonDevTeam
http://x.com/i/article/2046588231056289792
Very good now, up on the same level as the others. Only one left is Vandal for some buffs to the slide it feels SO awkward to use in combat
All she needs is to be able to knife/shoot while sliding, destroyer can while boosting....
Its mostly awkward because every other class gets to wstr you while sliding
And the dedicated slide class cant 😭
Could you imagine skulking around that ship watching your back listening for every little footstep. It sounds magical
That's not what you would get though
It would just be a dice roll clusterfck
Too many 'teams' for that size of map
For solos?
Yeah
I think it’d be great tbh quiet would be a premium and it has way more pathways to force players into organic engagements instead of “wait for them to open pinwheel” the game
It would probably just turn into one to two spawn fights, then wait for someone to go into control
I still think making the solos only q was a mistake
Let solos play rook or q solo into duos or trios
But that's just it...gear has a much higher effect on how you perform in a match. Higher shields is more survivability. That's just a fact....better guns, the right implants, the right cores. They all affect how you play. You're not as aggressive when on a free kit as you are with a full purple kit. So, gear mismatch absolutely affects skill and visa versa. Let me be clear here though.... I'm not against SBMM because I want to "stomp noobs", I very much enjoy extended gunfights where me and the other person are flanking, pushing, retreating, healing, all of that. I love those moments. I also very much enjoy the fear and anxiety I get from thinking there's a corner camper around the next corner waiting to pop me and thinking how scared and anxious he is hearing my footsteps creep along. I enjoy knowing that the only reason I'm coming out these runs alive and with the loot I have is due to my OWN skill and decision making, not because SBMM decided I had a bad run and should be matched with lower skilled players, or that I suddenly had a good run and should be matched with absolute Chad's who are sprinting around everywhere snapping their aim like the fucking terminator.
Trying to cater to a game mode that is diametrically opposed to the main mode is going to drag them down
Shield strength difference is like 1-2 bullets
It ain't that large
True
It's still a difference....it's a difference of 160hp(purple) vs 100hp(grey)
Gear may be a portion of individual performance but it is not akin to skill. And as long as the mm wasn't super volatile it would still reflect that.
'the only reason I'm coming out is my skill and decision making' without sbmm you can't say that. Some large amount of it will always be luck. You could have very easily just been matched against scrubs.
Those 2 bullets is the difference between getting and healing to re-engage or being dead on the spot.
Yes, fair, but generally Kithas is correct skill (positioning etc.) makes a way more noticeable difference than gear alone
Problem is how do you even come up with a quantifiable "skill metric" for marathon
Grey is 140 purple is 200, 60 difference still but different %
I'm sure Bungie has something already but I myself wouldn't know how to implement it
Honestly a bare bones elo system would go a long way
Games get way too fancy trying to quantify everything
But who's to say something like that doesn't already exist? It's certainly not pure LBMM people get matched in a whole range of levels
Is there an LFG marathon discord?
But that's my point...I don't know...so I have to play every run as if I'm in an extreme disadvantage. With SBMM I can say, "Oh...I had bunch of bad runs and lost a bunch of gear...it's ok, SBMM will match me into easier lobbies. I can build back up in the next 2-3 runs."
Check roles
For example in hunt the rating is 1-6 stars. As a premade team your rating is averaged and can have half stars but you cannot. If you are going solo into trios you get paired down. If you are a random fill group you also get a light pair down.
Your star rating is just straight elo on kills, as a 5 star if I kill a 3 star my rating doesn't really move, if I kill several 6s it does
Thats not how sbmm works
Not if it takes 20 runs to meaningfully hit your rating that far
Enforced 50/50 winrate is an illusion
#lfc-any-zone there's also specific map channels in Channels and Roles
Yes it is.... wHut? SBMM takes your match history to match you with people around the same....much like matching around the same KDR and adjusts based how you perform in each match. End of round stats affects your next rounds matchmaking. Taking those stats as hard numbers of your skill. So, again...a string of bad runs....means a string of bad end of round stats means easier lobbies....
at all is hyperbole. experience always means more skill, how much more depends on the person.
In my experience the only other significant impact on match making is the currently selected quest, as match making appears to intentionally create matches with players with the same contested contracts.
Thx bud
I can't say one way or another on the contract based definitively. I don't THINK it does, I think it feels like that due to the player curve of where the majority of the player base is at in the progression. Like at the start of the season you'll see A LOT of people on the same contracts as you, but as the season progresses and the progression getting stretched out, you won't see it as much.
I could see that, but I actually didnt have many lobbies where my random team mates had the same contracts early on, its mainly recenntly when doing the sekeguchi main quests I have had this experience. That being said its possible many players left those contracts to the end too
And experience doesn't always equate skill. Like season lvl is not a basis for a skilled player. See it all the time with people complaining about getting terrible teammates on squad fill but they're higher level.
shoutout to the time I snuck across all of outpost for a sekgen contract only to make it to flight control and discover somebody else had taken the biochain before me
I got it done next run it was just kinda funny
But you're assuming it only goes based on the last 5 matches lol
Oh they did....I can say that for sure...those contracts are annoying and most people wanted to finish the other ones first for the more relevant upgrades. SekGen has some decent ones and some that are really good...but for the most part they aren't that needed early on.
I agree that it doesn't equate to skill in the mmr sense, but the same person at level 1 as when they're level 50 will have an improvement in skill, by virtue of experiennce. It stands to reason that the average level 50 will be more skilled than the average level 10, even if many of those levels 50s are worse than a few of those level 10s.
You would think so.... 😂 I get what you're saying though. It can be a good indicator, but not always accurate.
I think this is why some players feel higher level lobbies are sweaty "like" sbmm even though its not in the game. the average skill level is higher, possibly higher than their own skill level.
Possibly...I don't know. I'm more of a fan of the chaos that ensues with absolutely no Matchmaking filter at all except regional. Even then...let me choose the region. Outside of regional mm....just toss everyone into the same pool and see who comes out at the end.
Also, add friendly fire and take squad markers out. Let people accidentally kill their own squad mates.
There are pros and cons to both, in my opnion the best of both worlds is what we have now with ranked, but I would like for ranked maps to have better loot than normal to really maximize the sweatiness in ranked. I wouldn't mind something like friendly fire in ranked to maximize the difficulty, while leaving normal maps the way they are so that fill queues don't become unbearable.
but we definitely already have too many map queues
SBMM has no place in an extraction shooter. doesn’t make sense to me. also feels like it goes against the identity of what an extraction shooter is.
Hunt has shown that it can work, it just means treating the extraction more like a competitive match with minimum goals that qualify as a succesful extract. This is good for high skill lobbies and bad for ordinary play in my opinion.
Friendly Fire would solve a ton of issues people have with the game, unironically saying this, especially if you coupled it with penalties to do so.
I think a similar system to hunt could be added here with no real ill effects
I wouldn't say up the loot pool in ranked. Personally, I don't like the idea of ranked in this genre....but I understand the draw and why it's there. Which is why I choose to not participate. It's a personal thing, and people enjoy it...so they can go have fun, and I'll stick to my normal games. I would go as far to say that if you want something sbmm....go play ranked. It achieves, essentially, the same thing. Matching you with like skilled players in your rank.
The loot pool is higher in ranked and there are more events
And yeah I have been playing ranked and it does fix a lot of my issues
Well, the experimental queues are literally just Bungie having us help them out with balancing and development. Which I think is awesome. Like the sponsored kit only queue was for them to gather data on how the early game loot economy is. How quickly people can go from a sponsored kit to being able to clear the Lockdown event(in an extremely watered down explanation). So they can balance out loot distribution. Lockdown can give some REALLY good loot, especially early game. It's not about making it an actual mode for people to play.
Oh is it? Again, I don't have any interest in ranked at all so I didn't pay much attention to that. I play other games for ranked mode. Ironically, I don't play normal quick play in those...just ranked. 😂
Yeah, it's not insanely higher but it is noticeable. And the events are more consistent. Like you'll have a warden 8/10 games
For example
Oh there you go. How's the cheater situation over there? I've heard it's really bad, but then been told it's not that bad...so I don't know what to think anymore. 🤣
Hard to say, I really haven't run into it at all but I'm pretty low ranked still
They did add reporting and have started ban waves though
Ah alright....my main view in this genre...is it probably wasn't a cheater, more than likely a skill issue that people don't want to admit.
I was one of those that was absolutely convinced there wasn't a cheating in that game...until THAT video came out and I had a buddy who ended up working with BattleState on their cheat detection...then I had my eyes opened. Especially after hearing some of the shit my buddy saw.
I think that cheating is mainy lower in this game because RMT is nonexistent.
gets rid of the "career" cheaters
They would give him special clients with console commands and temp accounts to use to log various things in raids and do different things. Worst part was having to re-add him to friends list every week because they had change accounts. Had one named. "Forever Lvl 10"....they took that account when he hit lvl10 too. 😂
And they hardware ID ban here as well. Makes it harder to get back in after you've been caught and banned.
Just flinched so fucking bad upon getting shot that I opened the god damn steam overlay and froze in game
LOL
this game activates my fight or flight response like CRAZY
Damn, so the WSTR nerfs are hitting hard then, eh?
It’s fair, for how easy it is to get
buddy it's full of cheats. You are just not end game enough to match them. They do carries for compiler / skin / and overall loot . A fucking plague
sure, but that affects the top 1% of players, in games like tarkov its in a signficiantly more matches. It can always be better, but carries being the end game for cheaters is way less of a problem than it could be
No you don't get it. Past lvl 100 is only cheaters dude , that's not 1%. Thats the pop that actually spends money on skins
In tarkov I dont even bother bringing in gear worth anything because every time I have I just get instantly and suspiciously killed within a minute or two
its absolutely not full of cheaters above level 100 what
Cryo is
im 125 and have maybe seen one cheater
Ive seen 4 or 5 cheater squads in two weekenss ago alone
I wont even waste time here guys
Didnt play cryo last weekend because of it
Yea theyre just blatantly lying
I've seen 1 maybe 2 cheaters in like 220h of solos
ppl be saying everyone is cheating but im confident lotta yall are just getting styled on by good players
99% of the time this is the case
ive only encounted one hostile runner that was suspicious
Only one I was 100% sure of was literally a blatant speedhacking assasin on outpost LOL
It was so funny
Cheaters arent bothering with solos lil bro
like once again a lot of the higher rarity mods let you do shit that looks like cheating if you arent familiar
Its pretty easy to recognize when I get shot and killed through a wall while stationary
i've found 50+ steam lvl 1 pages set to private. Surely they got style. No but i totally didn't have 90%+ extraction rate in the first month with my squad. If one of yall types he's a console player imma laugh so hard
my buddy thinks there are cheaters in the free kit mode lol
im a pc player that exclusively plays trios ive encountered one (1) cheater in my time played even on cryo. they're definitely a problem but im not gonna take you seriously when you say its ALL cheaters past a certain point like thats just blatantly untrue
how?
are you like deliberately seearching up groupps of cheaters or smth?
also arent most people's steam accounts barely leveled like who gives a fuck about that
means nothing
Yall aren't getting random friend invites from private, level 1 steam accounts waiting for you to accept so than coerce you to pay for Cryo carries?
call of duty frinedly fire game over screen haha
Cheaters run on level 0 steam accounts because it allows them to utilize steam family sharing to avoid bans
keep proving you have no clue what you are talking about and try to correct me lmao
Then you guys are dogstrash , in both awareness and stats
there it is
You are kind of insufferable im ngl
🥀
Hoooly
cheater lobbies would solve it imo, long ass matchmaking times. other cheaters only
cod shadowbans ppl they could try that
load their IP into those lobbies to stop the family sharing bypass
but then VPN is big now too
ahhh
just do a kernel level anti cheat like every other competitive fps in the current era
nope unfortunately
atp if it aint kernel level then it aint really secure people will easily work around it if not
not even hardware id bans are effective anymore because theyll just spoof it with a VM or some such
so maybe shadowban lobbies then
yeah at the very least for sus players
least means they have a longer turnound time on them noticiing
after x amount of reports you get put in there while bungie investigates
problem that cod players found though is that some really good players get rage-reported by burgers so they get stuck in these lobbies for simply being goated
it can be abuused too
because once again, 99% of hackusations are simple skill issues lol
or or some kinda refund protection buut that would require them to be able to indentify the cheater lmao
yeah iirc they mentioned gear refunding before launch but ig it was more of a long term goal
if people got their whole gear back i dont think it would be as much of an issue, they did it with rank points in the mid season patch
i personally wouldnt mind if i came across a cheater if it didnt impact me. less incentive for me to care about that game matttering etc
im still just surprised this game doesnt have kernel level at the outset like that seems like a no brainer to me
might impact FPS targets more maybe
almost got a 3 piece on rook and got betrayed by my own fucking claymore
clayMORE best shell
BattlEye is already kernel level based.
It does
BattlEye is already a kernel level based anticheat solution. How good it is is debatable but it already is what people are screaming about.
oh i had forgotten it was actually
cod's ricochet is kernel level too but they werent using the kernel to detect cheats so it wasnt doing shit
wonder if something similar is happening here then
In the grand scheme, it's okay to dog shit haha
you gave up your security for anticheat and got neither in the process
The issue is trying to find an anticheat which isn't proprietary and limited to specific companies and developers.
riot gotta license their shit out ive only heard mostly good things about their anti cheat personally
Ricochet is CoD exclusive
Vanguard: is Riot exclusive (And isn't without issues, especially severe privacy concerns)
Easy Anticheat: Works on Linux, unsure at how effective it is.
fortnite uses EAC and i remember it working pretty well in the years i played that game
dont think i ever actually encountered a real cheater that didnt get banned before the match was over
I wonder what made them go with BattlEye.
battleye itself doesnt appear to be the issue but rather in how bungie uses it id wager. ive played other games with battleye and cheaters would get banned all the time
big exception being siege lmao that game sucks
do we even know if they've had a ban wave yet?
they don't just ban cheaters instantly
-# no one does
they havent had one yet no
they usually post about it when they do
at least from d2 experience
Bungie doesn't post about it. You just get a thank you for reporting if someone got banned off one of your reports when it happens.
every 3-4 weeks or so IME
i remember them talking about them in twids but they dont talk about it as much nowadays u right
guess we just gotta wait until some shitters start raging about unfair bans or whatever
first gold, ripped off an assassin that assumed I couldnt see him
I can also tell when it happens because all the cheaters test their new accounts on my poor checkpoint bots 😭
Quit downloading roblox cheats 😭
Brmeeaatst
Boot time
post has already been booted a couple times
which means...
mods are asleep. post bee
which one lmao
Shield.
I know it's an attachment but why does it look like a skull?
to be cool
2 taps and a punch
YESSISRRR
It's a Double-Sided blade. They can't do it to you either.
Thank god, this is what you deserve for killing other rooks
you can two tap greens tho can you?
Yeah
yeah so they CAN still two tap me
one of them killed me on exfil as I had a 20k loadout worth of lore so I WILL blow their shit smoove
If only there were other roaming weak shells like you that you could form an alliance with...
We had 8 rooks in pinwheel last night, the team didnt stand a chance
I love Rook but acting like a double barrel shotgun and a bag full of claymores for free is somehow hampered and crippled by this would be a wild take when there's a whole gaggle of us laying siege to trios in Pinwheel
Haha bro is that
yea the rooks that kill other rooks are fkg stupid
specially now since we need all the help we can have
get a better cryptoscam
https://bitcoin.d2cp.io/
mines wayyy better
I hate how discord cuts this off. it should be Trusted by our moms 😭
Apparently I'm obligated to post a picture of my cat, so here, damn 🙄
Beautiful
I had another picture but his balls are out soooooo
Literally took it the day before he got fixed lol homie is nutless now lol
ZERO headshots missed after 0.1 seconds out of cover on an smg at mid-long range
Oh we postin cats?
yes, if you have a car you must pay the car tax
consider my tax paid
CAR
Cinema
i love loading into outpost and having not only two free kits, but an afk!!!!!
this is what i get for gambling on fill for a quick pre-work match
win or exfil, just don't blame them if you lose. 🙂
Skin, Pregnant Men and Cats. All Breach Chat staples.
Pregnant cats?
No no, the men are pregnant, the cats are just cute 🤣
Arachne memes about skin, mida memes about pregnant men, and cats (because cats).
bnuy
what do people have against pregnant cats?
Oh my god this was the best thread to come home to 🥹
Big back alert!
Here's Smokey cat as a baby (and also me, sorry)
Have a picture of Sam(Short for Samuel L. Catson)...he's also judging you.
Starting to discover the Felini codex entries, and it's hilarious
Imagine your cat abusing you verbally
Oh man, it gets better
They also engaged in psychological warfare with the colonists
Imagine your cat is Samuel L. Catson and is always calling you a motherf-
Bro....he does....with his eyes...I'll be driving and this little shit will go and sit his ass right in front the GPS, I tell him to move and he just stares at me like, "What did you say motherfucka?!" Until I physically shove him away. Sometimes he'll start to attack and bite my hand....I have to pick him up and toss him back into the sleeper.
i loaded into ranked solo to get some other teammates but it loaded me in alone??
did i miss smth
ok nvm theres a no fill option wtf 😭
For ranked?
has anyone noticed any difference between last week and today's matches?
I don't know what they need to patch to make me never lose but they didn't yet
so a full purp wstr cant 2 tap blue anymore?
attachments don't affect damage but yeah thats true
With the absurd speed you can shoot 2 shots with its seems fair
besides like that one chip maybe
rip rooks
Pre nerf made it absurdly easy to squad wipe with just rook
Not good
yea playing rook is pretty pointless at this moment in the game
TOTAL ROOK DEATH
it’s still free money, just harder to 1v3. which 1v3ing should be hard, so.
Rook is still ez mode what you talkin about
this wstr nerf is fucking insane
i think not being able to down BLUE SHIELDS is kinda insane. purple shields not downing i get but like
blue???
it does like all but a sliver
throw one of your 25 utility items
or have a teammate put like one overrun bodyshot into them
press melee even
INDIRECT SUCKER PUNCH BUFF. YES.
i think it's fair that a higher investment shield can survive a 300ms instagib
pov i chose sucker punch
truke
I love you too, Halo Infinite
I think its more that it was insanely oppressive meta weapon where you literally had to use it or die with 0.3s ttk and incredibly fast fire rate
LOL
I love how much humor and effortt all the lore has put into it
It's an absurd amount of work
What are you talking about they definitely do😅
Please show me an attachment that directly affects the damage that is not prestige
There's multiple chips, like the overheat one
And any attachment that impacts range is affecting damage dropoff. Ie damage.
There's like 2 chips and if we are talking about shotgun shots to kill then range is not relevant
we do not look at a chip that increases optimal ttk by like 1m as "increasing damage"
I mean, it very much is lol. They will often not be within the shotguns listed range
Me when I put on a range attachment and it lets my shotgun 2 tap a blue shield
going back to d2 servers and telling them all rangefinder is a damage perk
Why would D2 be relevant to any discussion on this discord?
It would help you 2 tap a green at 8+m. And if you are just asking about strict damage over base; last resort
"Would a purple shotgun two tap a blue shield?"
Yeah u can two tap green at further range with a range barrel 😭
Good answer king
If it's got a purple last resort chip and you're overheated😅
Yeah bro that why I said besides the one chip
I wasn't here for that specific context just the question of any mods increasing damage
Sigh
Sigh
na servers still down?
they were only down for the update
thanks chud real insightful
this might be a stupid question but does the anomalous rift event mean no lockdown
not sure if only one cna happen
yeah they can both happen
I've learned that sometimes it's better to just not shoot
I ended up exfilling with that other rook
lmao this video is gold
I question how they didn't see me, then I remembered that people play with different fov's.
The assassin definately should've seen me
yeah! it's weird
there was a thick fog in that match too, they could've been focusing elsewhere (aiming for the trees, etc)
also, Zomboid is such a great game! ggs 👌
Zomboid is peak, yes.
it'll never get a SP mode with NPC's or be finished but other than that it can be fun as hell
Main chat is so full of malders over the wstr nerf it's hilarious
IMO it’s a bit overkill but needed to happen temporarily
My hope is that they circle back with a more complete balance overhaul on it
people will still force it to work, but at least it's no longer something you can guarantee the enemy to have on hand
because like damn you couldn't go a single engagement without getting hit with it
Yeah, it was way too ubiquitous
Personally I think it's a fine nerf, if you want to use it against blue+ shields just toss a name or two or pepper them before you push
And some incentive to bring something else in some loadouts
We'll probably see non-bully smg buffs soonish too, now that smgs will see more play
Maybe we'll see them on the weekend, but I'm surprised people are malding over that massive biotox spawn nerf
Yeah, that will be a small population that could be loud
Are you still guaranteed at least one for the vault rewards?
That was amazing. I hope their social media zoomer with whatever title that lurks in here grabs part of that for tiktok
i had a dire marsh run earlier where i killed like 3 purple shields
maybe itscuz cryo justclosed
god damn the UI was clunky
no, as the notes say it's a chance for 1, there's no guarantee it drops anymore
Gotcha, yeah tho notes make it sound like it's talking about the sec 5 room specifically so seemed ambiguous. That's an odd choice to not guarantee one
Bc all the other vaults do
Normal after updates, people want to test stuff and changes
After many painful ranked games I lost everything but I’m so back for like the 5th time❤️🩹
Love this game❤️🩹
learning to love the demolition hmg
Very good gun yeah
Wait I thought the sec 5 vault was the only place you could get it
There's others?
It might still be a guaranteed drop then
not relevant anymore
It was the ARG from launch to cryo archive’s release
nothing is going on with it right now
well, not relevant at the moment
that's what they want you to think
Why is my lvl 90 ahh playing with mr lvl 245
is there a maximum level ?
optimal ranked / cryo loadout: 👇
I think is okay
Yeah next week it wont be optimal
w..wat 😟
this wstr nerf is fucking bullshit
casuals who barely play the game get what they want again because they dont know how to play around the enemy team having shotguns
i get it was a problem but this is horrible
like not downing blue shields is horrible
Balancing a DB is horrible
It's funny how people think it's a haha meme. But the Misriah is named after an in game massacre and the Achromatic Rush skins is an interesting sect of Runners.
Kinda dark to think like, maybe it's a nod to Runner killing for their loss in the massacre.
But just some fun speculation for lore
is that enough shields
Do we have Orion/gantry fic yet?
for cryo
Last time you posted this I asked how you had room and got muted for it
shotguns feeling powerful just feels good, at least people used the gun, now its useless.
right? -_-
cuz now its only making the problem of the "rarer" guns BiS. when people were complaining about the WSTR to be "more rare," who do you think that helps?? the people at the top tier of the game who CAN get all of that
i feel like they could have done more with the nerf than just the damage. i feel like a ttk shift/rate of fire nerf was probably necessary
but the fact that you can no longer use a SHOTGUN in the necessary ranges it's used for and NOT get a guaranteed kill is bezerk 😭
I have about the same amount of blue shields as this lmao
I’ve never seen a gold shield, Jesus
rank is so free
it's the unique
yes. but i dont know what comes on it 😭
sucker punch purp, snapshot + compartmental green, pinpoint barrel blue
modded for more close quarters, idk what mods
bro obviously thats not his question
I have one myself
thats kinda good
yea +2 in range
sorry im french canadian i dont use they/them yet lmao
LMAO
no problem
how many players in solo perimeter?
me when my nuber eats arrives :3
https://x.com/BamBaeYoh/status/2046633124952523258
Vidmaster achieved 🫡
Nuts
WHAT IS THIS MAN
"still be able to down green shields" MY FUCKING ASS
bungie sandbox devs do not have a fucking brain
Looks like you got no reg on the second shot wtf
💀
me fr
Your second shot didn't connect and your frames dropped hard.
I doubt your frametimings would fuck this up but I have to wonder given the fact tiger engine can be heavily dependant on fps
Lol that pellet rng saved the Destroyer lowkey, and you missed the triage because he was straffing and knifing
there's been bugs in Destiny 2 that happen because of high/low fps but i doubt anything around ~45 is noteworthy
of course I unlock the boomstick upgrade on rook as the nerf is up
you can NOT fucking tell me i missed my second shot on the triage
LMAO
LIKE WHAT
I mean dropping below 60 fps in Destiny 2 had you take less damage from the flying ships.
Lowkey, 45 frames kinda got you cooked
And going above 60 meant they did more damage.
i don’t think that’s a miss
but hitreg is lowkey funny in this game
60% of those pellets whiffed LMAO
had « missed » an entire mag of Bully on a point blank target
That sounds ab right tbh
is that the arm outlined?
But homie got really unlucky with the wster shots
Meh kinda shittily, but it paints the picture
NO FR THO HAHA
Hitreg is genuinely ass sometimes
my point stands: this wstr nerf is overkill and bungie needs to nerf it some other way like recoil or rate of fire
It can be, I am not gonna act like I haven't noticed it
Hitreg is weird in a lot of games, tiger isn't an exception.
They need to balance it
Lowkey bro, luck just wasnt on your side, and triage was strafing the shit out of you 😭
and not fucking murder it
fine. but what about that first destroyer shot
it’s the equivalent of a sawed off double barrel if you get within range you SHOULD get your shit rocked
but Misriah can still shred no problem
The first 1 connected 2nd one like 60% of the pellets missed as well
like i hit both of those shots 4-5m and he STILL didnt die to a single bullet
Like I said just unlucky
you need to get glasses
this was right before the second shot
Twin I am so serious
You didn't have their chests in the reticle, that frame I just posted is legit frame one, of the shot connecting.
But you do you ig
The jumping to conclusions in this server is
wild
Next contraband weapon should be the SPNKR
REAL
Marathon 2/Infinity's version or Marathon 1?
"A self-important human once said "...sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." This may be so, but in the case of the <<rocket launcher>> you've got one majorly explosive cigar."
- Marathon 2 manual
We need something unsettling and eerie for a new contraband weapon I think
like in d2 we have a machine gun with an insect in it
fuck it the SPNKR but with the security officer’s head inside it somehow
Just make it like halo except make take 2 shots to down someone. And give it crazy self damage so you can’t just fire it off whenever. I think that would be fun + fair. Reliably down 1 guy and then long reload animation
Eh, I think Marathon's triology's version looks more fitting.
Do you think we’ll get Pfhor enemies somehow
Mold infected SPNKR from Marathon 2.
I meant gameplay wise. They could make it look like the marathon SPNKR
Contraband shield: MJOLNIR RECON
🤭
Holy shit girl, maybe lay off the game for a while lowkey, ghaddamn, no wonder you are so mad 10 hours a day is crazy work
Contraband dual wield WSTE-M5
That is another I pray for, dualies
Ooh.
God that would be so peak
This thoooough
Contraband alien gun
peader
Contraband energy sword 😈
Everywhere I go I see it
I think it could work. High risk high reward
it's a curse once you see the logo tbh
Genuinely
And they couldn't even scrub it form the MCC retexture
It's even in the fucking final shape, lmao
When I got Vidmaster tonight I got the warden down to exactly 7 HP. That’s how I knew I was gonna get it for sure 🤭
It's actually so fire
Hhhhm.
You ain't slick GW
there's a 7 on the back of the thief compiler skin where the backpack mounts
Oh
7s all the way down
Huh... Okay that's interesting, what are the chances. Villa San Pablo
im still laughing about the kill for mommy shotgun shell i can't believe it's real
Totally Nona's doing.
Destroyer holding a UESC skull with the spine attached
So mimicking some of the original OG Marathon trilogy art.
Yeah
doesn't make sense for it to be nona, nona has nothing to do with the achromatic rush skins
its whoever designed the shells right? like idk the way i look at it the achromatic rush shells were designed by one person and adopted by a subset of people
so like the "mommy" in this case would be the OG achromatic rush glitch probably lmao
SekGen designs skins, does it not?
they design the base and the sekgen sponsored skin
but each shell that's like shadow index or whatever is not made by nona it's based on her design
Still goes hard.
I think of Nona more as the 3d printer, the rest more submit the designs for approval
Destroyer would look good doing this.
God so peak
I also got the 7th column icon this weekend so my profile is fully decked out in OG references;
Vidmaster Title
7th Colomn emblem
Destroyer holding UESC skull and spine background
Props to you, hoping to have it sorted before season 2, but good lord I have yet to see an 06 key
You don’t need all the subroutines actually just need to play with someone who does to fight compiler
You can give them your DNA key
but yeah the way i'd put it would be the base skin is the basic shell
the sponsored skins are corporate approved shells
the other skins are the customized shells of groups of people who want their own custom shit, eg achromatic rush skins or the thief white rabbit skin
I knew I saw your idea somewhere! It was Byf's YouTube thumbnail.
I am kinda dedicated to my 3 stack
Marathon's world has seen the development of Undead Cyborg Super Soldiers called Battleroids. First emerging in the asteroid battlefields of Icarus and Thermopylae, the battleroid was a defining super weapon at the disposal of Humanity from then on. Potentially based on Jjaro technology, the Battleroids forces smuggled aboard the Marathon were m...
i don't think they're really "approved" either bc white rabbit shells are supposedly used for illegal thievery mostly and idk if sekgen "approves" that so much as they don't care what you do after you pay
Which makes it more fun, but harder to get shit done lowkey
I am so far ahead it hurts 😭
The background you get for finishing all 7 cryo contracts in one weekend has destroyer holding the skull and spine too
I miss the original whiterabbit runner but I guess it was proto thief, so we'll never get it.
badass.
I'm suprised we do not have it yet.
and the one where she’s wearing the oversized tee shirt but not the RUSH one from rewards pass
oversized shirt pay 2 win it blows in the wind and changes your hitbox /s
I still think they should make a hangout for your runner before infils but I guess it was just for cinematic purposes.
all I need to do now is get the rest of the Cryo skins and maybe try to hit pinnacle rank (probably not happening lol)
I have the triage cryo skin too
the only cryo skin i have is thief ngl i doubt i'm getting the other ones
can't make myself play other shells
I want the destroyer one at least but I’d like to go for all of them
Vandal is my favourite one I love the mask
@whole vigil
Damn that's good.
I’d like to see skins that change the overall look more while keeping the silhouette the same
Vandal with the face visor for one. Maybe like a Mjolnir recon 54 type skin for destroyer
there’s a couple skins that already do it like white rabbit and the red and black destroyer one and stuff and Cryo obviously
Also I want them to go back and update the old faction skins to give them logos and stuff like the Arachne skins. The Arachne ones are so high quality and unique compared to the original faction skins
maybe it is time to include an image upload limit
People still posting this crypto scam lol???
What.
True tho
The hijacked ones always post 4
What the fuck is this image? @tiny mulch?
?? lol
It's like something got really squished.
i wanted to share how much WSTR nerf is being chatted about
Oh what on earth happened to that screenshot.
but discord didn't like my attempts to crop the image
LMAO
😭
Lots of people failed internet 101.
LMAO
I don't think I've ever seen it happen that badly.
augha...
LEARN NOT TO CLICK SUSPICIOUS LINKS IN FUTURE.
How hard is it.
perfect timing
another one bro
It's okay to be wrong.
🔔
Cheers, yeah they must have re-done the math or something
you’ll be disappointed to know I have just as many purple shields and golds
Bro might be hoarding shields
Saving shields for Marathon 2
He who wipeth with the most purpleth shields winneth
Waiter! waiter! More purple shields in my goop!
Hes a goofy goober yeah
WELCOME BACK RAID EXOTICS!!!!!
CHANCE AT 1 EACH RUN YIPPPIEEE
this isnt gonna be fun
guh
Its one of the dpad directions. It will show commands like yes no or thanks. You need to then click like the LB/T or RB/T to get to the final one that says Inspect Weapon.
Wait it says you posted that hour ago lmao

Ohhhhhhhh
Ty ty
Why is it so oddly complicated
Lmao its alr I appreciate the answer regardless
Yeah, it's a little convoluted, but you hold the button for the emote wheel(Up on the d-pad I think) then right trigger to the third page, and it'll be the top center emote, "Inspect" and that'll do the weapon inspect animation.
The streamer i watch does it without the wheel
Though he is on pc so maybe that’s why
Yeah PC has a keybind just for weapon inspect.
Unfairr
Eh. We get console only queues....they don't have an option on their queues.... 😂
Fair trade off I think.
heavenly 1v3 clutch
putting here so i can mention it in another channel
I always forget what games are actually popular
Guess we need to add chem nade baseball to outpost
another 20k fgone to a crouching assasin
yeah most gamers aren’t even gamers. just ball and gun gamers.
Fuck this man theres no incentivie to bring kits anymore, ill start exfill camping
Onb no wayy the ai crypto scam is here now too
You will reap what you sow, recons have your number.
THE BOOTS WORRRK
Yeah when mods are awake.
🫶🏽
Another lost account though sucks, regardless of someone dumb enough to click spam links
Regardless of the operator failing internet 101, losing your account sucks.
a friend of mine got hacked and sent me steam scam
the ones with a link to a video asking to sign in to steam
idk if its the same as the i reported your acc type of scam
As if you're burning a gold shield and implant on that garbage loadout.
bri'ish build
i lost too many kits to camping assasins
tired off ts man
ima start ruining ppls day
ur 100% garantueed a free kill if u sit in one spot and knife a mf
i used to abstain from this meta cuz i had some dignity left
im done now
they turned me
Guess you're just another assassin camping invisible, that's unfortunate.
i will be until they change this shit
Change it how? They nerfed the knife, do you want them to make assassin useless?
Oh moth we’re in for it now
Nona
Feels like a moth kinda morning
Moth(er)
Shoutouts Nona
Ay , love to see it charting so high
is it just me or is this not loading
om nom nom nom
nevermind
He's not joking is the worst part, he legitimately admitted he was doing it.
no shot
knife fight v5 and a dream
With knife fight v5 and a golden shield he might pull it off, lmao
goddamn right it will

Think something broke inside him.
Lets hope he never runs into a Misriah 🤣
Fight the tilt
I at least got to 2 tap a purple shield right before the nerf went live
I’ll miss u wstr
this is the scond time i lose a purple key to a fucking assasi
Purple keys are meant for donations
I haven't successfully done a key run in weeks lol
Funniest shit was when my team third partied a fight and we snag full purps & a gold key off em
The dream will die if he does.
They really need to take the alarm off of the rooms
We just walked by them too
The risk is already plenty high
Why do you think that?
i still havent even gotten a purple key outside of a couple cryo keys that i sold because im a solo player
I think u should hit the pinnacle room in outpost alot
Can drop in there sometimes
Or
Kill the bosses in the maps
i have only found cryo keys from there
Ye those are guranteed
But other keys r possible too
Just not a gurantee

This also tho
Oh and key templates ofc
i need to build guns to kill bosses solo
bully with purple drum mag
With an extended mag
lmg takes 900 years to reload
It fries them
circuit tracer
Bully as a secondary
true
Lmgs r strong tho i swear
i havent found any circuit tracers above blue grade though
ik theyre strong i love retaliator
Shoutouts
but bully with drum mag.....
or just bring 2 LMG XD
Ay i only got 1 of em
That shit is staying in the vault till further notice
(Cryo)
i have 2 blue drum mags and one purple one
kill the elite, take their lmg and shoot the boss, no more bullet then take another 1, no need to reload
i have only found 2 golds and they were for the outland and ce sidearm
yes
kills with it make u invis
Outland gold is great too tho i got that one asw
Solo lobbies are 5 minutes queue in EUW, games cooked
Ehhhh , some purp attachments do that as well
But I imagine the invis is longer here
I didn’t even know ts got a gold
solo lobbies are still a long queue in the us too
thats what u get for queueing solo though
literally what purple attachments do that
since crew fill is unplayable currently
Idk if it’s attachment or implant but
Its like
A precision elim
Will make u invis
ok then ur thinking of implants
Ya mb
and that is for a shorter time
I figured
with the sidearm u are invis for a little longer and it doesnt have to be a precision elim
How longs the invis for that gold?
idr
probable
Lmk if it makes that gun good tho
Best way i found is just to lvl up nucal
Im never finishing all the capstones coz of this
Not this szn atleast
its inconsistent for me, had a few days in a row where that barter appeared but its barren of that barter most of the time for me
i might but its gonna be near the end of the season, farming anomalous matter from dire marsh
I got like over 20 blue shields off that
It's not unplayable lol I do it basically every day
i have a ridiculously easy time finding blue shields at this point
I imagine same yeah
Oh yeah same
yeah im not losing my 30 kits to randoms with greens hields
Im just thinking like
Totally your choice lol
If i get it at the end of the season
Most of my randos have blue shields atp
I wont have time to reap the benefits for long
Especially in ranked
yeah
O well
i have a lot of purple shields saved up at this point but still, i would like to feel less risk involved when i take one in
Yeah the capstone's are cool but I don't,to see them as really something most people need to get
I've got a decent stock saved up from NuCal barters
I wish i got that barter..
same
It'll come keep saving
i have something between 15-25 i cant remember
me when im employed and cant view my inventory whenever i want
Ur good on that then
Atleast for a week or two
maybe
Wdym a week or two I could lose that in 2 hours ez
i could also just git gud™ at rook and destroy trios
Its hard to
Lose
20 times
In 2 hours
i hate playing overly ratty though
LMAO
xD
this mf has no gear fear
I lowk like playing rook coz i start roleplaying a scavenger

larp
Tbh whenever I lose a bit too much I just go rook

Nope
and steal from the squads
I embody rook
thats what i do when im having a bad day
Pretty sure thats how I've gotten all my purple goup that I got xD
That or I let my friends who are better at the game carry me kekw
either that or free kit perimeter and get some mid as hell gear then use that for a couple matches on other maps
Best feeling as a rook is seeing like 5 dead bodies and looking at all the scraps & then finding hella good shit
Perimeter lowk don’t even got loot
Bro, the amount of times a squad wiped the lobby and I am there like
If we’re being real
best feeling for me is winning fights as vandal
Ok to specify
I meant best feeling as rook
Specifically
oh ok
But idk what the best feeling overall in Marathon is
getting good goop and downing at least 3 other runners in solo queue
Someone once vandal cannoned me off of an exfil, that might be the best feeling that persons felt
Best feeling is wiping a map of purple squads on outpost for me, which doesn't happen often but leaving that lobby with a backpack worth 40k just feels so good
The main reason I am considering to swap to vandal is to snipe rooks off final exfil . . .
imo vandal cannon doesnt start feeling good until u use the cut to the chase core
I think my highest high in marathon so far is when we killed a fully gold team in cryo & stole their subordinate 5
They fr did all the vault work for us
& then delivered us the loot

I got a unique gold m77 off that
Think the most fun I had was running away from a full squad of goo guns after finishing first vault in cryo xD
i should get better at solo outposting but i crave the salvage from anomalous matter
i love dire marsh
I fr love dire marsh too
most of my playtime is in da marsh
I hate dire marsh so damn much xD
most of mine is outpost
Outpost is my one love
i dont even snipe that often
R u a real marsher then?
vandal movement is too peam

dont need a sniper if i can reposition rapidly
I mean I would argue vandal makes sniper even better xD
Real marsher gameplay is sitting on top of ponds with a sniper
Because you can reposition rapidly
it absolutely does
but it makes other things good too
I like using snipers in this game
same
That sounds exhilarating
As someone that's only ever used sniper in csgo, the sniper in marathon just feels weird to me idk
I just miss everytthing with the sniper 😅
Never played cs
So wouldn’t know
Guns have alot less weight in that game tho I’d imagine?
Marathon is a lot more twitchy with the sniper like cod
Ohhh i see
Clips look a lot more impressive than your non pro level gameplay
Thats fair
And also a lot more with prediction, so you know where the guy is going to be so you prefire them
I don’t play much fps games so it’s abit unexpected that i love marathon so much
I find using guns in it alot easier than most other shooters too
For whatever reason aiming in apex legends is significantly harder
As an example
Yeah the guns are quite forgiving tbh, like I haven't played fps in a few years now and getting back into it with marathon the guns definitely makes me feel not trash xD
Yeh
The guns r very forgiving
A lot more bullet magnatism in marathon and just bungie games I think, I find myself hitting headshots with my crossair like next to their head
I am on console also
esp with the bully
Petition to use dynamic Unix timestaps in #server-status
EG
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-> https://r.3v.fi/discord-timestamps/
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im not seeing this being implemented yet
ahh then you got the other assist aswell which is nice
Yeh
its the bungie sauce
