breach-protocol

[quick gale]

It would update in 2 quick chunks on the normal website aswell, just was hard to tell because only the community made on actuall gives a numerical output. The Bungie website is just a bar.

[toxic eagle]

Ty. Just kinda seems to make sense for this kind of puzzle

[candid crystal]

GL IN THE RUN BOYS

[acoustic shard]

Alliteration > all imo

[candid crystal]

We Can do it

Count how many success we do

and we can add up after

[dawn sun]

WE ARE RUNNING:

AI UPLINK > WEST GATE.

STARTING NOW PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO AS MANY RUNS OF THIS AS YOU CAN!!!!!

WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS

[toxic eagle]

We can try to keep count

[ruby axle]

we can do this helldiver- i mean term touchers

[dawn sun]

The issue is that there are so many micro-communities doing terminal runs. Like people are posting about it on Twitter, Twitch, Reddit, Tumblr, etc

[latent flicker]

Right. Well if it changed and it took more than 30s to do so, it should show as a data point in the graph and be visible in the downloadable API history at the bottom, I save every changed API result. If it changed faster than 30s I wouldn't have it

[agile bluff]

BUT TERMINAL TOUCHERS IS BACK FOR THE TEST

GET READY TERMTOUCHERS.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

[acoustic shard]

btw, on crowdtypical site, the text for this objective says "West Gate -> Ai Uplink", map is right, labeled as start and end correctly, but just... listed backwards

[agile bluff]

Oh yeah it was below 30s so far

[zinc pivot]

o7

[dawn sun]

WE ARE RUNNING:

AI UPLINK > WEST GATE.

STARTING NOW PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO AS MANY RUNS OF THIS AS YOU CAN!!!!!

WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS

[quick gale]

it took like 3 seconds after the first jump to jump to the actual number for the 15 min interval. So no graph indication.

[toxic eagle]

Oh I know. It's impossible to keep complete track, but we can try some testing at the very least. We saw a noticeable decline when people in the server took a break

[agile bluff]

GO RUNNERS. TOUCH THOSE TERMS. AI UPLINK TO WEST GATE. GET IN THERE. SMASH IN. SMASH IN. SMASH IN. SMASH YOUR FACES TO THE TERMINALS

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

[dawn sun]

Oyser im doing runs so im gonna leave it up to you to keep posting that

[minor spoke]

so lame

[agile bluff]

I GOT YOU ❤️

[quick gale]

This will also help us test what camera is corrolated to what term other than biostock

[minor spoke]

all these campers

[acoustic shard]

text backwards, says Westgate -> Uplink

[agile bluff]

WHICH EVER CAMERA THIS IS UPPING, - I KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET IT TO 300% HIGHER THAN WHAT IT IS. IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? IT IS NOW

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

[agile bluff]

@plush terrace

[safe cosmos]

wait whyd we switch

[agile bluff]

Testing

[safe cosmos]

ah okay

[agile bluff]

We don't have the numbers rn so we're testing for the other cameras and decay and stuff

[safe cosmos]

finding out what pairs match what cams

[quick gale]

Yeah not enough people online anymore so doing test work

[gilded drift]

Avoid people camping terms, and to see what the other cams connect to

[agile bluff]

yup

[zinc pivot]

dont question why, just touch those terms

[latent flicker]

Ah I see. The official website refreshes the API every 5 seconds, so if it takes a couple seconds to actually stabilize the results maybe you're catching it in the middle while it's calculating

[cyan lantern]

Also be careful of the toxic plants...

[safe cosmos]

still cant believe ppl are camping free kits and base rooks

[quick gale]

this and estimating how many people/progress is made per person

[cyan lantern]

I got deleted by them cause I didn't know where to avoid in this route

[plush terrace]

Good catch, not around rn but will update once I am!!

[acoustic shard]

If you load in with anything.... mechanics kits lol

[gilded drift]

It's f'n wiiiiild

[agile bluff]

WE'RE NOW TESTING DIFFERENT IDEAS AND RESULTS AND WHICH CAMERA = WHICH ROUTE. REMEMBER HOW MANY RUNS YOU DO TOO IF YOU CAN.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

[agile bluff]

Thanks Crowd.

[tired roost]

What are we at on algae->bio

[quick gale]

It only dropped one this time despite even less people doing it this confirms the decay is non-linear and relative to how much progress we have

[flat ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-really-i-dont-believe-you-side-eye-looking-gif-18354569886756049640

[acoustic shard]

np! They're labeled correctly as "start" and "end" still, just looks like they mightve been put ineach others spots essentially

[agile bluff]

I'M NOT GONNA BE AS PUSHY THIS TIME BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED IT. WAIT YES I AM. GET IN AND TERMTOUCH/TERMSTROKERS DEPENDING ON YOUR PREFERRED TERM

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

[tired roost]

Did we finish the previous pair?

[agile bluff]

Not enough numbers

we did a huge push and it went down so we're testing camera/terminal pairs

[nimble sentinel]

Touchers, wowie

[tired roost]

Oh, switched focus?

[agile bluff]

and also rate of decay/impact of user

[drowsy sparrow]

Anyone interested in contributing in a way outside of testing? Surely they don't need everybody on deck to get test results(please correct me if I'm mistaken)

[candid crystal]

1 Run done

[quick gale]

lmk if you need someone for something else

[tired roost]

We gotta be missing something then

[dawn sun]

Also 1 run done

[agile bluff]

INCREDIBLE RUNS TEAM. IT'S A LONGER RUN SO WE MIGHT GET LESS. PER RESET. BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER, BECAUSE WE'RE AFTER DATA DATA DATA

DIREMARSH TESTING CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

[safe cosmos]

its kinds like airing up a balloon yeah? higher numbers start to get more difficult but lose more if we fall off but as air leaves the balloon it leaves in smaller amounts the less air

[drowsy sparrow]

It's in general in the BoT server, might have to scroll up a bit in the convo

[agile bluff]

Or just pure numbers

[vagrant grove]

got like half an hour to touch terminals :3

[candid crystal]

thats what we testing

[safe cosmos]

Im really akin to it being this simple

[astral elk]

What happened to the %

[quick gale]

Yes I have a piece on it in the google doc at the bottom of terminal context

[tawny topaz]

Ok I woke up cuz a bird is trying to get laid outside my window time to stroke some terminals

[candid crystal]

WE ARE DOING TESTING UYS

[royal saffron]

Do you have to be rook or is it just easier

[honest garden]

(Just a thought) what if they didn’t like us not exfiling successful, so that’s a “new” requirement, we cant** just leave

[agile bluff]

7 MINUTES TERMINALTESTERS. TIME TO GET IT IN. GET IT ON. AND TEST THOSE TERMINALS. YOU CAN SMASH IT IN THIS RESET.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

[candid crystal]

We wouild need to test after

[agile bluff]

We couldn't get past the 50% wall

[quick gale]

They would not randomly change it without a null transmitter message imo

[candid crystal]

lets complete our Test first

[agile bluff]

^

[candid crystal]

and discuss after the 7 min

[tawny topaz]

Approved

[candid crystal]

solo spawns are being a bitch rn to me across the map every time - im wondering if rook has better spawns for this location

[honest garden]

I do agree, I guess I’ve had a weird feeling about being able to just disconnect, seems unintended but I’m not necessarily complaining

[dawn sun]

PLEASE KEEP DOING AI UPLINK > WEST GATE FOR NOW

[cyan lantern]

1 run in

[acoustic shard]

If we wanted to test if the decay is related to previous cycles, couldn't we do something like... Cycle 1: Only 1 terminal run; Cycle 2: 5 Terminal Runs; then 10; etc, that way it's increasing each cycle?

[candid crystal]

LETS try to hi2 more runs each guys if possible!

[agile bluff]

TERMINALTESTERS OUT HERE TESTING TERMINALS. 5:30 LEFT ON THIS RESET & TEST. GIVE IT YOUR ALL. GIVE IT YOUR PUNCH.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

[safe cosmos]

So lame I need money to live so im at work rn

[agile bluff]

Can't be consistent

[vernal pollen]

might just have more people disconnecting this time than last

[dawn sun]

I probably will not get another run in, died to some assassin player

[agile bluff]

YOU HEARD THE MAN. 5 MINUTES MEANS 2 MORE RUNS. BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL GONNA HIT A SUB 2:30 RUN EVERY RUN. CAUSE YOU'RE PERFECT AT THIS.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

[hallow cobalt]

I think part of the reason we're having issues getting the stability up is that it isnt the weekend

[low carbon]

oh shoot we switched

whyd we switch did we finish?

eh doesnt matter

onto route 1

[vagrant grove]

wanna test different cams i think

[agile bluff]

WE'RE CURRENTLY TESTING THEORIES AND IDEAS BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET PAST THE WALL. WE'RE RUNNING AI - WEST GATE FOR ONE RESET TO SEE IMPACT. TOUCH THOSE TERMINALS.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[acoustic shard]

That would track for "end of march" if they planned for us to complete one map each weekend basically.

[hallow cobalt]

ye

[vagrant grove]

that would imply that this is the only step in the game though

[open shoal]

also NOBODY is getting the word out to the playerbase

outside of this discord nobody is really talking about it

[mystic root]

i am

[open shoal]

no youtuber, no large streamer

[mystic root]

in streams right now

[heavy viper]

3 tries, 3 fails. Dire Marsh sucks.

[open shoal]

we appreciate your effort

[hallow cobalt]

I saw a post on tiktok talking about it

[quick gale]

Great in theory and I like the way you think. Unfortunatly: 1, people do not listen that well. 2, many people that are not in this server are also doing runs/other language server's.

[toxic eagle]

Got mine done two minutes ago. Extracted with a Thief just now lol

[agile bluff]

3 MINUTES LEFT TO GET YOUR RUNS IN. THIS IS IT. THIS IS YOUR MOMENT. THIS IS YOUR TIME. TERMINALTEST LIKE NO TOMORROW

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[plush terrace]

@agile bluff I updated it, but im on my phone. Could you double check it for me?

[agile bluff]

Yup fixed

[quick gale]

well done

[plush terrace]

Perf thanks!!

[candid crystal]

IF SPAWNED ON ai UPLINK can do run in 2 min

[mystic root]

most big streamers got follower only chat on so i gotta wait for a timer but im trying to bring cavalry rn bois

[candid crystal]

u will run into 3 players tho due to spawns

[agile bluff]

TWO MINUTES LEFT. ONE MORE RUN IF YOU SPAWN AT AI UPLINK. PUNCH IT. HIT IT. FACE FIRST INTO THE TERMINAL FOR TERMINALTESTINGANDTOUCHING

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1480043609079287838/1480796446457598062/image.png?ex=69b0faa8&is=69afa928&hm=1a723aea35d89055e5d681b8cce4f6ffed1dfd4d34862a6fb98e96648c66e81e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1260&height=728

[mystic root]

any helpers would be appreciated but no worries keep running if you so please for science

[latent flicker]

Good stuff with the maps on your site, it's super useful. Just saw the updates now

[dawn sun]

Got a second run done

[quick gale]

We are currently doing the ai uplink term so depending on what camera goes up we will know what camera is what set of terms

[candid crystal]

Yeah I cant do another one i spawned across map

[sullen axle]

alright got about 3 runs in

[sharp lichen]

alright just got one more done

[quick gale]

brb

[mortal kite]

i got 2 runs in

[sullen axle]

i ended up going to perimeter by accident lol

[candid crystal]

OKAY GUYS IF WE ARE DONE OUR RUNS PLEASE ADD HOW MANY RUNS TOTAL SO WE CAN TALLY PLEASE DONT FLOOD CHAT SO WE CAN DO THE MATH

[agile bluff]

ONE MINUTE LEFT. THIS IS A LONG RUN. BUT IF YOU'RE AT NEAR THE TERMINAL PUNCH IT IN. PUNCH IT IN. PUNCH IT IN.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1480043609079287838/1480796446457598062/image.png?ex=69b0faa8&is=69afa928&hm=1a723aea35d89055e5d681b8cce4f6ffed1dfd4d34862a6fb98e96648c66e81e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1260&height=728

[plush terrace]

Im just glad to be helpful 🙂 - lmk if there's anything that i can add to improve or make easier

[flat ledge]

2

[candid crystal]

I DID 2 RUNS

[sharp lichen]

2 runs here

[dry timber]

I did 1 run

[sullen axle]

3 for me

[bleak viper]

1

[patent pagoda]

2 runs

[dawn sun]

2 runs

[limber cypress]

2

[fringe veldt]

1

[prisma marsh]

2

[ornate linden]

1

[warped anchor]

3

[agile bluff]

10 SECONDS I SEE SO MANY NEW NAMES OMG I LOVE YOU GUYS##

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 1 (AI UPLINK-> WEST GATE)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[honest garden]

3

[bright silo]

Reacting to message with numbers might be easier to compile

[agile bluff]

STOP RUNS. DO NOT HIT TERMINAL. NO TERMINAL TOUCHING

[agile bluff]

We can't react sadly

[dawn sun]

Can't react in this channel

[bright silo]

oof

[agile bluff]

RECEIVING TRANSMISSION...

We don't know which camera it is

[sullen axle]

while i dont think i could have squeezed in a extra run anyways, i admittedly was being stupid was reading the gate location as ai uplink so u was like "man where the fuck is this lmfao"

[candid crystal]

27 RUNS TOTAL IF MY MATH IS CORRECT?

[agile bluff]

Either steerage of Camera09

RECEIVING TRANSMISSION...

[vagrant grove]

hoping i got mine in in time

[honest garden]

This is where I’d put my react button, IF I HAD A REACT BUTTON

[tawny topaz]

Btw what's the reason we can't react in here ? Feelsbadman

[agile bluff]

RECEIVING TRANSMISSION...

[dry timber]

I feel like its steerage

[muted grail]

I ended up dying after my first lmao

[agile bluff]

CAMERA09

[dry timber]

it got a small boost during the testing

[candid crystal]

WOAHH CAM 9 went up

[celest crest]

Does feel bad 🙁

[sullen axle]

That 9!

[toxic eagle]

Definitely camera09

[junior cliff]

Big progress

[mortal kite]

holy jump

[ember nest]

cam9

[candid crystal]

that felt good

OKAY

[dry timber]

OH shit

[candid crystal]

NOW THAT IS GOOD

BUT DONT DO RUNS

WE WAIT

15 MIN

[agile bluff]

CAMERA09 - 18%

[candid crystal]

WE HAVE TO TEST

[quick gale]

WHAT

[dawn sun]

Wow yah

[agile bluff]

IT WAS NOT A 1-1

[honest garden]

Bungle gave us the channel as a shell and said have fun

[quick gale]

OH ITS LINEAR DECAY WITH LOGARITHMIC PROGRESS/REQUIRMENTS

[candid crystal]

WE ARE WAITING THE 15 MIN TO SEE THE DECAY?

[minor spoke]

a vote is smart for totalling

[candid crystal]

yes i am an idiot

[agile bluff]

16% INCREASE. 2% -> 18%

[candid crystal]

great job on the vote

[toxic eagle]

Knew it was some sorta progress. Should've guessed logarithmic

[sharp lichen]

sheeesh

[minor spoke]

oh god not logs

[candid crystal]

GOOD TESTING GUYS IDK WHAT IT MEANS BUT I THINK ITS BIG

[dawn sun]

IF YOU DID AI UPLINK > WEST GATE RUNS ON THE LAST RESET PLEASE VOTE HERE

[minor spoke]

thats where i stopped understanding things in math

[candid crystal]

i STUDIED statistics in UNI but I cant understnad anythign But i will try my best

[fringe veldt]

MATH!

[tawny topaz]

WE ARE WAITING BECAUSE DEATH IS BUT THE BEGINNING

[sharp lichen]

I only understand touching terminals

[candid crystal]

OKAY GUYS WE ARE GOING

TO TRY

NEXT PATH NOW

[dawn sun]

So we wait for next reset and then do the Complex > Canal runs right?

[candid crystal]

YES

[dawn sun]

Yah

[candid crystal]

EXACLTY

[tawny topaz]

Would make a LOT of sense

[sharp lichen]

okay gonna do some scouting to see where the terminals are and get the route

[honest garden]

Hm. Interesting.

[buoyant rapids]

what's going on

[flat ledge]

if vote is accurate 31 touches from us?

[sullen axle]

alright im gonna grab a drink, this is good testing so far, it is also good to get a feel for the route

[candid crystal]

NGL it went up a lot higher

than I thougt guys

Good test

[dawn sun]

WE ARE RUNNING:

COMPLEX > CANAL

WE ARE DOING THIS ON THE !!!! NEXT !!!! RESET IN 10 MINUTES

WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS

[wary marten]

So what's up here?

[tawny topaz]

Logarithmic is when a curve is shaped like an "r" and linear is shaped like /

[candid crystal]

WE have taken a break from doin 1 camera and now are doign testing

[wary marten]

So the usual ARG type of stuff

[candid crystal]

we Did 1 run and now is going to take a break until next reset now we will do the other cam for and take a break for other reset

[sharp lichen]

maybe all the cameras are supposed to be stabilized in parallel ? But I don't feel like it was like this yesterday (but then again, the push was so fast that it might have worked)

[candid crystal]

I THINK GUYS WHAT WE CAN try after all TESTING is complete A TEST where we do a 45 miN Cycle of ALTERNATING routes

[ornate linden]

right now I tend to lean toward we just dont have enough people

[flat ledge]

i suggested this, but after oyster posted the null message I agree with them

[mystic root]

do we know the rough number of people required to complete this yet or no got a streamer asking

[honest garden]

Not a bad thought cause that is true

[quick gale]

After watching a terminal reset, we can confirm it is some form of decay not resetting to zero for every 15 minute increment. This is because of a bug with bungie’s api update that caused it to drop in 2 segments. If each time it reset to zero and would have gone up in two increments from zero instead of dropping from the current number towards the result of the 15 minute period. From testing in the discord when pop was low we can also highly suggest the decay is relative to how close we are to 100% with it being a stronger decay the closer to 100% we are. After even more testing with a low player base online we got a big 16% jump from 2-18% with only like 10 to 15 people doing it in the discord. This was to confirm it is easier to progress when far from 100. This could suggest the decay is constant but the amount we get per voice/activation lowers the closer we get to 100%. THESE ARE THE RESULTS FROM TESTING THE DECAY

[wary marten]

Figured unlike the first map I can't imagine it not being easy with some people being trigger happy and not listening

[mystic parrot]

we could def use more

[candid crystal]

WELL yes we had a lot of people pushing so it was harder to control a bigger group with less people its easier for more organized tests nothing against you man

[agile bluff]

Wouldn't the requirements/decay rate probably be inverse logarithmic rather than Exponential?

[mortal kite]

you guys have fun with testing and good luck. ill catch yall in a few hours

[dawn sun]

WE ARE RUNNING:

COMPLEX > CANAL

WE ARE DOING THIS ON THE !!!! NEXT !!!! RESET IN 9 MINUTES

WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS

[digital gate]

I have an idea

[severe lark]

sorry for getting in the way of progress but are we doing terminals in a specific order? i'm trying to get caught up on everything that's happening

[flat ledge]

🫃

[agile bluff]

Thanks LordTarv - thanks for your input

[quick gale]

Thats kinda what I was hinting towards at the end but im not confident enough with hs math to desribe it

[agile bluff]

We're testing the pairs and also the +/- per runs

[orchid herald]

How many dire cams stabelized?

[sharp lichen]

we're also testing how all the terminals feel when we touch them

[dawn sun]

ZERO!

[digital gate]

What if we scheduled for a specific time so we can all run rooks at the same time.

[heavy viper]

4 tries, 1 success

[agile bluff]

Oops I mean ie. exponential not rather* inverse log goes up overtime rather than flattends - but good shout love your work

[agile bluff]

We just don't have the numbers in here tbh

[amber field]

wouldnt that always be wildly inaccurate cause you can't guarantee peoples participation and how many did it?

[acoustic shard]

What if bungie got salty at us grinding out the first set so fast, now we have to keep the progress within a certain percentage of each other? Essentially progressing all three in tandem instead of one at a time? lol

[agile bluff]

It's the closest we can get

[digital gate]

Yeah but we can pass it around

post it on the sub maybe

[vagrant grove]

null should let us know if the rules have changed

[latent flicker]

Aight good luck everyone, if y'all have any issues with the API tracker drop me a DM and I'll fix it up. Godspeed

[candid crystal]

yES BUT thats why we switched maps

[amber field]

I think a community organized day on the weekend would be alot better than a monday randomly

[mystic parrot]

thx goat

[sharp lichen]

I wouldn't say "salty" but yeah they could have adapted some thresholds or progression based on our work at the first step

[quick gale]

What if we get an entire lobby worth of people at the same level and stream snipe eachother, keeping this lobby alive till final extract just running back and forth???

[candid crystal]

We arent trying to stabilize we are trying to test - we got a 16% increase by just doing 27 runs could be mroe with randoms but this is from the discord counting Roughly

[quick gale]

I responded to the wrong person

[heavy viper]

Ideal, but unlikely.

[cyan lantern]

Can you activate the same terminal more than once?

[acoustic shard]

k

[dawn sun]

WE ARE RUNNING:

COMPLEX > CANAL

WE ARE DOING THIS ON THE !!!! NEXT !!!! RESET IN 5 MINUTES

WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS

[vernal pollen]

How do we know its logarithmic decay, rather than forcing us to do the terminals in a certain order. Like maybe the decay is less if we say do the terminals in orders 1->2->3

[minor spoke]

I wouldnt be suprised, always felt like gg in destiny was rigged

[quick gale]

I think so but I have not been given proof but people have told me you can

[candid crystal]

theres no guarantee of what is 1 2 or 3

[agile bluff]

Agreed - but I also don't think Bungie wouldn't want to wait till the next weekend and let the enthusiasm die haha

[quick gale]

We tried the order a lot on perimiter and no meaningfull impact occured

[agile bluff]

It's also not random, we completed the previous set and the next set became available on reset

[minor spoke]

is there a place to find teams to do these runs?

[mystic root]

its sad that almost every streamer thats responded just doesnt care about this at all like i thought people would be more excited to get a new map and a whole ass boss raid

[digital gate]

So say we schedule a time for the Americas, a time for Europe, Australia, Asia, and so on. Then we have people pass it around and then everyone as a time to shoot for to log on and run.

[ember nest]

yeah i'm down to lfg to do runs for this aswell

[candid crystal]

IS there a possibility of Cameras being able to decay so much if other cameras are also at a higher%?

[toxic eagle]

I'd imagine we'd have a better indication of that in the puzzle itself

[minor spoke]

wanna squad up?

[compact dew]

What order did we end up doing them in?

[agile bluff]

To be blunt, and I don't like this either, they will probably care when it's not just slamming your face against a terminal over and over again

[ember nest]

sure let me dm you my id

[minor spoke]

k

[tawny topaz]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN A BOSS RAID

[quick gale]

There is a discord at the top of the doc with vc's but its just getting started and is intended for when the arg gets more complex on later steps

[agile bluff]

Index - Control - Cargo

[dawn sun]

WE ARE RUNNING:

COMPLEX > CANAL

WE ARE DOING THIS ON THE !!!! NEXT !!!! RESET IN 3 MINUTES

WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS

[amber field]

there would be other secrets and cams to do aswell right? could plan ahead for that

[toxic eagle]

They likened the Cryo Archives to a Destiny raid

[quick gale]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[candid crystal]

3 MINUTES GUYS GET UR SELF FAMILIAR WITH THE MAPS AND COUNT UR TOTAL RUNS

[acoustic shard]

That was my idea too, plowed through the first set so fast, now this set its like "okay, do them all at the same time"

[minor spoke]

i think i alredy joined that and it was pretty inactive at the time

[vernal pollen]

we kinda do with the decoded "strike the stone with pain and fury until its secrets break"

[candid crystal]

But u cant take the factor out it was a weekend with streamers promoting it yesterday so its hard

[quick gale]

Yeah I mean you can ask in here and then go make a dm call or go and join a vc in that server with them

[agile bluff]

Sure - but the timing is also completely up to Bungie. so we can't co-ordinate perfectly.

[candid crystal]

that jus ruins the statisitic

[agile bluff]

Anyway - we've got another test to do

[tawny topaz]

Not false but also I could see the Smant typa streamer enjoying it, sad that (in my knowledge) none of them are into marathon

[amber field]

well thats my brain storm over ahhh. goodluck runner!

[dawn sun]

WE ARE RUNNING:

COMPLEX > CANAL

WE ARE DOING THIS ON THE !!!! NEXT !!!! RESET IN 2 MINUTES

WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS

[candid crystal]

we dont wanan discredit u its jus we are testing somethign rn so thats our main focus rn

we will look at other stuff after this test

[agile bluff]

Love your ideas though - your passion is 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[toxic eagle]

Fair, but also we didn't seem to have any difference when changing order last time

[forest fractal]

this is my first time with this kinda thing so I’m sure the answer is “yes” but have we determined if there’s a meaning to the two lines of alphanumeric characters that show up vertically when the video plays in bio and pans to the far right?

[nova sigil]

so i found all the link termminal on dire marsh what now and did them all

[toxic eagle]

We actually don't iirc

[amber field]

oh dont worry! Im just throwing out random suggestions until I can get on a help!

[agile bluff]

cOMPLEX:

[lucid geyser]

Can someone show me the website I’m on phone I can’t see the progress of the loeading

[agile bluff]

Canal:

[mystic parrot]

30 seconds

[candid crystal]

30 SECONDS GUYS BE PREPARED TO TEST AND REMEMBER TO COUNT UR TOTAL RUNS FOR CANAL ROUTE!

[amber field]

2 more hrs and and the hunt is on for me!

[toxic eagle]

Here's a phone-friendly API of everything https://winnower.garden/marathon/cryoarchive

[dawn sun]

WE ARE RUNNING:

COMPLEX > CANAL

WE ARE DOING THIS NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW. PLEASE DO THIS RUN AS MANY TIMES AS POSSIBLE

WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS

[lucid void]

Hey i wanna help and do my part how can i

[mystic parrot]

go go go

[agile bluff]

GO TIME RUNNERS. WE'RE TESTING THE STEERAGE RUN - TERMINAL RUN 2 COMPLEX -> CANALS. TOUCH THEM TERMINALS

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1480043609079287838/1480803194211663953/image.png?ex=69b100f1&is=69afaf71&hm=630f9cdb1f7afde54e52457023497cd92c98bcec1f5575fb5f033dc24dfa9a1c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1293&height=726

[flat ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/thematrixreloaded-matrix-reloaded-neo-keanureeves-gif-3449253871426083114

[muted grail]

Running

[agile bluff]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mtUtDPvbh6ahiynYFVS7Z4O79Nw6y5PEOjweCpzWV_A/ You can get started here - just starting a test right now

[ruby axle]

Visit the terminals in the pictures that keep getting posted! You dont need to exfil, just hear a voice line from the 2nd term getting activated

[candid crystal]

DO THE COMPLEX TO CANAL ROUTE AND COUNT HOW MANY SUCCES SU HAVE WALK UP TO TERMINAL TILL U HERE DING THENW ALK UP TO NEXT TERMINAL DIE AFTER HEARING THE VOICE BY LEAVING RUN OR EXFILL

[quick gale]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mtUtDPvbh6ahiynYFVS7Z4O79Nw6y5PEOjweCpzWV_A/edit?tab=t.0 learn about what is going on a bit from this doc and then wait to do runs when more people are online or if you want to test specific things with us you can do the runs now

[dawn sun]

Letting you take back over oyster

[agile bluff]

👌

[candid crystal]

gl on ur RUNS SOLDIERS

[agile bluff]

WE'RE TESTING THE STEERAGE RUN RIGHT NOW GET OUT THERE TERMINALTESTERS AND TEST THOSE TERMINALS

DIRE MARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[mystic parrot]

searching is taking FOREVER

[fringe sail]

so what exactly is this?

[candid crystal]

SAME^^^^

[toxic eagle]

Gotta go to bed. Good luck Runners

[fringe sail]

im keen to join in

[mystic parrot]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mtUtDPvbh6ahiynYFVS7Z4O79Nw6y5PEOjweCpzWV_A/edit?tab=t.0

[night cobalt]

Nothing yet. Here's the site someone made to help track things. Basically each of the cameras on cryoarchive.systems has a progress bar and running between 2 specific terminals will increment it, but every 15 minutes we lose progress. So we need to make more progress in that 15 minutes than the timer removes. We don't have enough people around rn to make progress. https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

[heavy viper]

This guy's killed my like 3 times.

[agile bluff]

BOOTS TO THE GROUND. FEET IN THE MUD. NOSES UP AGAINST THE TERMINAL CAUSE YOU TOUCHED IT. STEERAGE IS AT 7% RIGHT NOW. IF IT MATCHES I WANT TO SEE 23%

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[tame stream]

what happun to Biostock progross

[rough finch]

I don’t want to go back to the Marathon. I owe Durandal 15 dollars.

[mystic parrot]

spawned opposite end awesome

[agile bluff]

ALSO SOMETHING TO NOTE FOR LATER CAMERA09 LOST EXACTLY 16% ON RESET. THE AMOUNT WE RAISED IT

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[ocean yacht]

He owes me tree fiddy.

[quick gale]

it wont go to 23 unless all evidence is wrong or we have more people, precent is harder to gain the higher we are

[night cobalt]

Every 15 minutes, we lose a set amount of progress. We need to make more progress in that 15 minutes than we lose. People went to bed

[agile bluff]

Yeah you're right I can dream though

[heavy viper]

Ping @winter parrot

[dawn sun]

We'll run a poll at the end

Got my first run done 🙂

[burnt shore]

wym

[lucid void]

Not sure in which order to activate them my guess is go to the start terminal first and then go to the terminal second ? What’s the pics under the terminal pics

[haughty drift]

theres some loser just camping the terminals watch out guys

[vagrant grove]

only a problem for rooks

[agile bluff]

GET THOSE TOUCHES IN RUNNERS. I WANNA SEE SUB-2 MINUTE RUNS OUT HERE (I don't know if it's possible)##

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[quick gale]

Yeah you go walk up to the start ones first then go walk up to the end ones and those pictures are just context to help find the terminal

[haughty drift]

oh shit you right i should rook in

[lucid geyser]

Why does the loading go up and go down sometime what make the loading go back

[agile bluff]

10 MINUTES LEFT THIS RESET TERMTESTERS. TIME TO TERMTOUCH AND TERMSTROKE YOUR WAY TO VICTORY. LEAVE NOTHING ON THE TABLE##

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1480043609079287838/1480803194211663953/image.png?ex=69b100f1&is=69afaf71&hm=630f9cdb1f7afde54e52457023497cd92c98bcec1f5575fb5f033dc24dfa9a1c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1293&height=726

[verbal orbit]

because they hate us

[agile bluff]

This is what we're testing/learning rn

[fringe veldt]

Rook is so good for this

[quick gale]

It has a form of decay and playerbase fluxautes/coordinated pushes are made

[night cobalt]

I thought it was known that every 15 minutes progress goes down?

[agile bluff]

WE'RE CURRENTLY TESTING OUT THE COMPLEX - CANALS RUN BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T RUN IT AS A GROUP BEFORE. SMASH IT IN WITH 9 MINUTES LEFT.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1480043609079287838/1480803194211663953/image.png?ex=69b100f1&is=69afaf71&hm=630f9cdb1f7afde54e52457023497cd92c98bcec1f5575fb5f033dc24dfa9a1c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1293&height=726

[agile bluff]

Testing rate and numbers and things like that

[vagrant grove]

there's a big unless you're forgetting here

[agile bluff]

we know it does, just by how much

[quick gale]

It is we just did a research on how and what type of decay it is

[vapid marten]

except when it goes up... lol

[dawn sun]

Yah I actually also got killed by a terminal camper lol. That was my first time of that happening

Even said "Fk the ARG" to me

[agile bluff]

NEVERMIND CAM 09 DID NOT GO DOWN 16% THAT TIME IT WENT DOWN 9% SO NOT THE SAME AS WE DID.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[buoyant depot]

😭

[bright silo]

Man if I had a dollar for every time I loaded into the wrong map, Id have $2

[vagrant grove]

me too...

also every time the game decided that i wanted to suddenly team fill instead of running solo

[night cobalt]

My understanding was that we need let's say 10,000 terminal runs (random round number), and every 15 minutes it would shave 500 or 1000 runs off of our progress, so we need to get more in the 15 minutes than it shaves off

[agile bluff]

7 MINUTES LEFT TERMTOUCHERS. GET IN THERE AND TOUCH THOSE TERMINALS.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1480043609079287838/1480803194211663953/image.png?ex=69b100f1&is=69afaf71&hm=630f9cdb1f7afde54e52457023497cd92c98bcec1f5575fb5f033dc24dfa9a1c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1293&height=726

[agile bluff]

It's not a flat number though, it's exponential

[quick gale]

Its not linear from our testing either the decay gets increasingly higher or the requirments to get a precent in terms of player runs completed goes up

bro I cant type my brain is giving up on me

[agile bluff]

6 MINUTES LEFT RUNNERS. YOU'RE ALL BEAUTIFUL CREATURES. NO MATTER WHAT ANY ROOK SAYS. YOU'RE SILK IS THE FINEST RUNNER SILK OUT THERE.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[ebon relic]

my main issue is queuing into trios instead of solo since the game defaults to trios when you restart.

[honest garden]

Rook fixes that

[night cobalt]

Okay so the testing right now is just more curiousity driven rather than actual progress, given we aren't actually gonna make progress until more folks are on (and Milo gets his chat going again)

[agile bluff]

👆

5 MINUTES RUNNERS CLAP THOSE RUNS IN. TERMTOUCHING AND TERMSTROKING YOUR WAY TO CRYOARCHIVE

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[dawn sun]

Dude complex is such a shit show

[mystic parrot]

just finished mine

[honest garden]

It really is lol

[hasty kiln]

do you think rook has a higher success rate?

[ebon relic]

just wish it remembered my preference. lol

[mystic parrot]

probably

[hasty kiln]

I wonder if we would be better off having everyone spam rook

[acoustic shard]

Intersections been hell today too

[night cobalt]

Okay glad I understand. Will be back for more runs tomorrow, hopefully we can get more of a community focus going with some big streamers

[honest garden]

Fair lol

[agile bluff]

4 MINUTES - THAT'S NOT EVEN ENOUGH TIME FOR ANOTHER RUN. YEAH I SAID IT. PROVE ME WRONG. GET IT DONE TERMTOUCHER.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[dawn sun]

It is a sad showing for me on this reset

[vagrant grove]

sorry to the thief who was sitting outside canal if they were about to go in lmao

[quick gale]

LMFAO

[forest fractal]

I had more success as assassin personally; I also wonder if rooks “count” the same? (total speculation on my part)

[floral ocean]

😭😭😭

[fringe veldt]

Oke did 2

[honest garden]

Does anyone have the voice lines from the dire terminals typed out they can link?

[digital gate]

How's this for a schedule? Most people would be home from work at these times to do something.

• 9pm Eastern America
• 8pm Eastern Europe
• 8pm GMT+6 for Central Asia
• 7pm GMT+8 for SEA

[agile bluff]

3 MINUTES LEFT GET THAT TERMINAL TOUCHED OR DURANDAL IS PERSONALLY GONNA COME TO YOUR HOUSE.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[vagrant grove]

that's it i'm specifically doing nothing now

[mystic parrot]

the thing is there are a lot of players spread out over the map, in squads there are not as many and they stick together in fewer places, you also spawn in late as rook which mean a few squads could alreayd be gone

[candid crystal]

ONLY GOT 1RUN IN BUT DID IT WITH 2 OTHERS

THEY WERE ESCORTING ME SINCE COMPLEX

[broken light]

I've been at work all day, last I heard we were doing algae to bio what happened? I tried scrolling up a good amount but im not sure

[vagrant grove]

we're Testing

[night cobalt]

People went to sleep

[candid crystal]

DONT HAVE enough players so we testing

[sharp lichen]

noooooo I got downd by turrets in front of the closed door on the canal terminal 😭😭😭

[quick gale]

People got off so we are testing various things

[patent pagoda]

Got two in, had to dodge an assassin and run for the basement

[sharp lichen]

only got one run

[drowsy sparrow]

TRY TO RECRUIT A BREACHER EACH RUN GUYS

[agile bluff]

1:30 AND NOW DURANDAL WON'T COME TO YOUR HOUSE. HE'S WALKING AWAY RIGHT NOW. I JUST WATCHED HIM TURN AROUND FROM YOUR HOUSE SPECIFICIALLY.

TO BUY YOU FLOWERS BECAUSE DURANDAL IS A KIND TERMTOUCHER AND A KIND TERMTOUCHER IS A HEROIC TERMTOUCHER

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[candid crystal]

BRO THE CANAL TERMINAL Confused the shit outta me ngl I was there for like 7 Min i was at canal

[digital gate]

any feedback?

[frank ridge]

On my war

[candid crystal]

We need a clearer route for canal or better pictures NGL

[vagrant grove]

DURANDAL NOOOO

[agile bluff]

We testing right now

[quick gale]

This is what peak hours are normally anyway

[dawn sun]

I would read the descriptions rather than looking at the pictures

[muted grail]

I'm a terrible runner lmao

[candid crystal]

I DID

i was so confused

[ruby axle]

Durandal no its got its earpods in oh god oh fuck

[quick gale]

If it ever gets hard enough to where we need to pre plane a date then yeah these times would be used

[mystic root]

posted on the steam discussion to help spread the word but idk how to alert the console runners

[dawn sun]

Yah great

[digital gate]

yeah but it helps to have a coordinated time

[agile bluff]

20 SECONDS PUNCHERS TOUCH THOSE TERMS IF YOU CAN. IT'S YOUR LAST CHANCE TO TOUCH.

DIREMARSH CURRENT FOCUS: TERMINAL RUN 2 (COMPLEX -> CANALS)

map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

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[dawn sun]

I can update it. Do you have a better description you would give? Like what made the description confusing?

[sullen axle]

was only able to get two, just saying yall, if you're rook and you see complex is locked down, you are NOT getting it, just reset

[haughty drift]

just got one in

[agile bluff]

2 SECONDS

[agile bluff]

STOP RUNS NO MORE RUNS. DON'T TOUCH TERMS

You can if you want though

RECEIVING TRANSMISSION...

[lucid void]

Same cause it’s not really clear at first like which one to start with the top and bottom pics are the same most different angles

[dry timber]

1 run. I just barely got it, died a few times for it lol. Literally was crawling to get to the last terminal and triggered it.

[drowsy sparrow]

Can you be specific on which pictures are inadequate?

For suggestions on the doc, you can drop them in comments, or in the suggestions for the server we have for the doc and ARG

[quick gale]

hold

[dawn sun]

PLEASE VOTE ONLY IF YOU COMPLETED COMPLEX > CANAL RUNS!!!!!!

[haughty drift]

i wish i could have gotten mine to trigger some bozo was camping the terminal

[candid crystal]

IM LITERALYL screaming in proximity NGL

i got so lucky

[dry timber]

rip

[agile bluff]

RECEIVING TRANSMISSION

[quick gale]

wth why did biostock go up 9 last time

[candid crystal]

I had 6 people following me

[ruby axle]

holy hell

[drowsy sparrow]

Keep up the good work 🙏

[candid crystal]

I had 6 people following me since complex got shot at by 2 randoms lost some soldiers Lamoo

[dry timber]

steerage got a huge boost

[mystic parrot]

omg big

[candid crystal]

i swear i coulda got like 5 people if those randoms didnt shoot

[agile bluff]

Steerage: 10% -> 24%. An increase of 14%

[sullen axle]

yeah that looks similar to 09 as well

[dawn sun]

Zamn

[quick gale]

14% incre3ase great stuff

[slate oracle]

I managed 3 for the first time on steerage.

[ruby axle]

Zamn

[dawn sun]

I mean i think this almost certaintly confirms that the further up the percentage goes the harder it is

[agile bluff]

That matches the required increase rate theory

[heavy totem]

BUY THE DIP CHAT

[candid crystal]

some peopel are reconizing me from the discord Lmaooooooo

[heavy totem]

oh wait

[dawn sun]

Cause we only have like 20 people in here

[agile bluff]

Because it was 16% increase from 2% and a 14% increase from 10%

[clear drum]

to be clear we should still be doing #3 on marsh right

[quick gale]

Slightly less than our last test that was starting at 2% this confirms it gets harder the closer it gets towards 100

[dawn sun]

Nah we finished with the testing we were doing for now

[clear drum]

ok so any marsh terms?

[dawn sun]

IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING THEY WANT TO TEST NOW IS THE TIME

[quick gale]

We moved away from this when everyone got off, now we are testing

[agile bluff]

It was kinda assumed tbh but good to confirm through testing - it's why we could never break the 50% wall

[dawn sun]

Currently no specific goal here

[clear drum]

ok gotcha

[vagrant grove]

it'd be plausible that uescKillCount changes the parameters of the decay/increase right

[lucid void]

I wish the damn community would get it to together and come together to get this done they kill hungry my god lol

[dawn sun]

I mean im down to do a run where everyone kills a bunch of UESC before doing their terms

[slate oracle]

Is it enough to get it done tonight? I was doing doing my best to keep Reddit appraised earlier, got a pretty popular thread going, but surely we just don't have the power. Not unless we do something fundamentally different, or wait til its later in the week.

[dawn sun]

Just to see

[haughty drift]

fr i guess people dont want that last map to unlock

[candid crystal]

SO GUYS 30 RUNS TOTAL ON STEERAGE WITH A 14% INCREASE FROM 10

[agile bluff]

No shot imo

[dawn sun]

I don't think it is correlated

But im down to try

[honest garden]

Why the hell not lol let’s do it

[agile bluff]

Yeah that works out

[dry timber]

do we just wanna rush down a camera then? We can probably get at least 1 done tonight

[vagrant grove]

i mean that number doesn't really change between resets right, it's a total?

[candid crystal]

I dont thinkj we try to kill bots yet

[slate wolf]

The difference is only 2% though. I agree it is likely it gets harder the closer it gets to 100, but I’d say it’s a stretch to say it confirms it. Could just as likely be that people just goy fewer runs in this cycle.

[agile bluff]

We've already tried - the requirement seems to be exponential so we can't get over about 50%

[dawn sun]

PLEASE RESPOND

[dry timber]

Damn

[quick gale]

Alr I go bed now keep testing if you want but we got the important information ill be back tomorrow.

[mystic parrot]

us killing uesc isnt really going to make a big difference compared to the tens of thousands of other players doing it anyway

[opal garnet]

wait so are we pushing for kills rn?

[quick gale]

This is a decent idea

[vagrant grove]

yea that's what i'm sayin lmao

[candid crystal]

NO TERM TOUCHING WE ARE WAITING

[acoustic shard]

Right? lol

[candid crystal]

WE ARE TESTING DECAY AND INCREASE

[slate oracle]

I like it I just think it's a distraction.

[honest garden]

What if killing uesc buffs the bar somehow/allows for easier progression? (Speculation here)

[opal garnet]

no terms. got it

[candid stone]

I'm gonna term touch

[dawn sun]

It could be that it corresponds more to people killing UESC and then completing terminal runs

[candid stone]

ima do it

[winter nimbus]

but if you kill guys does maybe it gives your terminal a multiplier

[mystic parrot]

ehhhh..

[celest nova]

You wouldnt dare....

[quick gale]

we have seen the same thing happen so many other times its alsmot impossible for it to be linear

[candid crystal]

if u want u can we are jus trying to do testing Lmaoo

[lucid void]

And then would be complaining that we don’t have a new maps or asking where is the raid yall promised us like hello we trying to do it but yall keep kills people lol

[candid stone]

I would dare every day of the week

[dawn sun]

I'm not saying its true, but why not try?

Not like we're finishing any cam tonight anyway

[candid crystal]

2% less but we also had 3 more runs than last time

[dawn sun]

If there is no correlation, then we know for sure

[mystic parrot]

we could finish tonight if mrroflwaffles stops running outpost

[candid crystal]

so it def looks like its harder the higher %

[dawn sun]

Yah but thats not happening so lets just test stuff

[candid crystal]

we Might need to do another CAM 9 testing

[slate oracle]

I think we commit another run to steerage. I was still learning that route. I've got 4 in me. Maybe the measurements are different, we cant possible know from only a single test

[dry timber]

Honestly Durandal is a little more twisted, what if he wants us to kill Runners to help increase the bar while doing terminals 💀

[haughty drift]

i mean i do usually kill a couple robots on the way to the terminals

[sullen axle]

I think one issue with this step is this is basically the "gather fucking everyone and their mothers" step from the original ARG for marathon a while back

[dawn sun]

No me too, but like a set of runs where we dedicate to killing as many UESC as possible before turning in

[honest garden]

This has probably been said already at some point I realize but it could be a potential fall back set in place for if/when we don’t have the numbers

[left kelp]

Are runner deaths tracked in API?

[sullen axle]

but several times

[slate wolf]

Agreed. But I do think we should be careful with the term confirms, especially with relatively few data points.

[vagrant grove]

no iirc

[left kelp]

Also ive been away for the day whats goin on?

[quick gale]

this is true but I think most of the decay comes from the last half/further into the completion gn yall

[dawn sun]

It's possible that something has changed for this step though.

[drowsy sparrow]

What if it's not Durandal 🤔

[dry timber]

Probably not come to think of it

[tiny atlas]

What’s this channel for?

[quiet rivet]

the arg

[dry timber]

Return of Tycho lmao

[mystic parrot]

the ARG for cryo archive

[flat ledge]

100% runner deaths are tracked

[drowsy sparrow]

Do we know for sure if this is retconning Infinite or not?

[vagrant grove]

proof?

[slate oracle]

I'm committing to steerage on the next 15. If this aint it, I go to bed. Those are my terms.

[slate wolf]

Marathon’s Alternate Reality Game to unlock the next map (Cryo Archive)

[agile bluff]

I'm touching grass for a bit 👌

[dense kettle]

hey, you guys doin amazing work in here. keep it up

[digital gate]

We're trying to unlock a new map that has a raid boss

[flat ledge]

proof, what game doesnt track there player deaths

[left kelp]

Wouldnt this durandal be merged with thoth if the wrk’ncacnter isnt awake?

[vagrant grove]

we have every other part of the api, it wouldn't really make sense to not track runner deaths in a visible way

[vapid marten]

just because something isn't in the API response you see on the website doesn't mean they don't track it

[drowsy sparrow]

o7 keep running, keep touching terms

[honest garden]

Thank you for your hours of service 🫡👑

[vagrant grove]

why would they show us how many uesc we've killed but not how many runners?

[dawn sun]

LOOK YOU MIGHT NOT AGREE, WHICH IS FINE, BUT PLEASE TRY THIS FOR THE NEXT SET OF RUNS IN 7 MINUTES:

AI UPLINK > WEST GATE IS THE PATH

KILL AS MANY UESC AS POSSIBLE BEFORE TURNING IN

PLEASE LET US TRY THIS

EVEN IF IT DOES NOTHING, WE CAN AT LEAST ELIMINATE IT AS A POSSIBLITY

JUST TRY IT

[dry timber]

Probably, I have no clue really.

[tiny atlas]

Ahhh is Mr Roflwaffles here??? Lol

[sullen axle]

when we gather everyone for this next time im so putting on "Push it to the limit" as we rush everyone to getting as many terminals as possible

[dawn sun]

LOOK YOU MIGHT NOT AGREE, WHICH IS FINE, BUT PLEASE TRY THIS FOR THE NEXT SET OF RUNS IN 7 MINUTES:

AI UPLINK > WEST GATE IS THE PATH

KILL AS MANY UESC AS POSSIBLE BEFORE TURNING IN

PLEASE LET US TRY THIS

EVEN IF IT DOES NOTHING, WE CAN AT LEAST ELIMINATE IT AS A POSSIBLITY

JUST TRY IT

[honest haven]

Given that the translated messages are calling us runners "violent ones" and to "strike the stone" maybe kills do indeed buff progress?

[mystic parrot]

bruh i wish we need him rn

[quiet rivet]

he's doing loot runs

[digital gate]

at least allegedly has one, based on what people in the chat have been saying.

[candid crystal]

I DONT THInk we do this

[obtuse zealot]

What’s the website again?

[warped plank]

yo chilllll

[candid crystal]

this ruins our statistic

cause we haev to wati

for 15 min

[drowsy sparrow]

Are we certain that's how many UESC we've killed, and not how many we've been killed by

[candid crystal]

and not term touch

[dawn sun]

We'll still see the drop though no?

[heavy viper]

I can't anymore.

[tiny atlas]

Lol Ik

[candid crystal]

most likely

[dawn sun]

Cause we arent doing any on this cycle?

[candid crystal]

but we should check

[drowsy sparrow]

More specifically, how many kills the UESC has

[dawn sun]

Ok sure

[candid crystal]

i think we do that next cycle if anything

[tiny atlas]

Schyea I just checked he’s live rn

[drowsy sparrow]

Could it be UESC killing runners vs runners hitting terms?

[dawn lodge]

Im just waiting for instructions, as a casual.

[candid crystal]

Maybe guys we should do a minimum lets say make sure u kill atleast 5 bots etc

[heavy viper]

It's literally the worst of the community preventing regular players from doing cool shit because "haha funny"

[crisp tulip]

Is there a bug with the helper site? it's showing the West Gate images above the actual route images

[drowsy sparrow]

The graph just kept going up for UESC kills

[static dove]

anybody here from the dire marsh run with john marathon

[digital gate]

I feel like I'm getting Deja Vu

[candid crystal]

but I dont think we test bots yet

[opal garnet]

wait so we only have 15 to prog this next cycle?

[left kelp]

Strike the stone 🤔🤔🤔, since uesc kills are being tracked maybe its making it easier the more we kill?, asking the whole playerbase to lay off killing bots seems like a big ask

[candid crystal]

IT WAS ME

[quiet rivet]

they stopped coz they kept getting killed before getting to the terms

[candid crystal]

if we had a group of like 5 people

it was me

[dawn sun]

So we aren't doing it this cycle, and we also aren't doing it next cycle?

[static dove]

bro i got slimed at the 4 minute mark and i was almost done with my quest so sad

[dawn sun]

I mean feels like a bit of a waste of time, but im willing to wait

[left kelp]

Testing decay i believe

[candid crystal]

NOOO sad to hear that

[tiny atlas]

Noooo 😢

[dawn sun]

Yah but we're gonna see the decay on this cycle aren't we

[quiet rivet]

yeah :c

[sullen axle]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[quiet rivet]

🙁

[left kelp]

Checking parameters 🤷‍♂️

[drowsy sparrow]

Hey trombone check the general chat on the BoT server for an idea on what to do while waiting

[dawn sun]

Ok sure

[sullen axle]

I know DMG is prob watching us tear our hair out over this lol

[drowsy sparrow]

I felt the same so I proposed an alternate contribution

[left kelp]

Idk ive just been looking then api tracker been at school the whole day

[astral elk]

Yo yo yo

[tiny atlas]

What’s the classified intercepts channel for? Sorry for asking so much I wasn’t on tha cord since two days ago

[astral elk]

Hows testing going

[heavy viper]

To the Destroyer that I met and helped with your quest, I love you. Triage that was doing the ARG, you rock.

[slate oracle]

Can we get the new path here in disc plz?

[candid crystal]

PLEASE VOTE GUYS ON THIS FOR NEXT TESTING

[dawn sun]

We are waiting two whole cycles to see the decay

[astral elk]

Kk but what are we testing rn

[opal garnet]

okay so n o prog for two cycles. what is steerage

[astral elk]

I need context

[fathom knot]

I’d argue a community ARG shouldn’t be self reliant on Streamers 🤷

[dawn sun]

We are gonna test bot kills

[night cobalt]

old arg from last year

[empty vault]

ay it was nice seeing you 🫰

[mystic root]

MADE A STEAM DISCUSSION TELLING PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND HELP ITS ALREADY GETTING ACTION

[heavy viper]

Might need to set up a meeting place to start.

[slate oracle]

There's no way I'm waiting 30 minutes lmao. Y'all have fun. I'm going to bed.

[honest haven]

api mentioning uesc kill count means smth?

[bright silo]

If I had to guess, the UESCKillCount is probably a safety net to ensure we can clear the puzzle by the time they want the raid out. Judging by the number its affected by all players, and likely either reduces decay the higher the number gets, or increases progress per terminal run.

[astral elk]

Future thing maybe

[dawn sun]

I don't think so, but we are just trying to test everything right now

[honest haven]

aight aight

[tiny atlas]

Ahhh okok thanks. Love to see Bungie do arg’s Ik they were gonna bring the heat for this game

[stone coral]

I got this key and my buddy got one that's legendary from an outpost run, I don't ever remember picking this up. Any clue what this is for exactly or if this is related to unlocking cryo archive once we're done with the terminal stuff?

[celest nova]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[flint mica]

put it in your vault and save it for cryo!

[mystic parrot]

its for cryo archive. like it says

[slate wolf]

Likely opens a loot chamber or similar in the cryo archive map

[bright silo]

I know, big brain thought, am I right?

[stone coral]

Cool

[astral elk]

Hey what drops these i wanna collect them

[vale carbon]

i got mine off of a zone boss iirc

[drowsy sparrow]

Do we have any way to test and ensure it's us killing UESC that is being counted, and not the other way around?

[celest nova]

what if we get a night shift squad to hit the runs at like 4am since the killcount would be low

[vale carbon]

ghost uesc warden in uuhh, south relay, i think?

[candid crystal]

@dawn sun Make the giant letter wording 1 min till next run make sure u say 5 bot minimum and steerage only

[stone coral]

I really have no clue unfortunately, we got a bunch of loot from the stonks chamber in the middle of pinwheel

[drowsy sparrow]

"UESC Kill Count" is somewhat ambiguous

[dawn sun]

Wait so we are starting next cycle?

Like in one minute?

[mystic root]

i think we should still run one specific terminal set in case new people start popping in and are confused.

[candid crystal]

We should

[dawn sun]

Cause I thought we were waiting again

[slate oracle]

Y'all gotta agree on one test before putting votes up. Are we doing it or not? ffs

[candid crystal]

no point in waiting 2 cycles

we only did 1 cycle for Decay

[dawn sun]

You just told me we were waiting again like 5 minutes ago :/

[opal garnet]

what is steerage

[formal girder]

So whats community focus now? Still on Algae to bio or?

[fringe veldt]

ORDERS!!!!???

[candid crystal]

our whole cycle was do, then wait this is the do cycle no?

[astral elk]

Ohhhh cool i lowk dont have anyone to run pinwheel with so im probably just gonna like idk run thief and try and steal them off ppl

[night saffron]

Finally got a voice line from a terminal on my last run. Didn't make it out, but oh well.

[candid crystal]

5 bots minim steerage run

make a post

[bright silo]

The name of the camera we are progressing

[vagrant grove]

THEVOICEISTHETRIGGER

[digital gate]

MOTHER OF GOD

[lilac onyx]

Oh

[astral elk]

Bermuda triangle

[dawn sun]

Communications diff I guess

[dry basin]

leylines

[candid crystal]

i think its okay if we start 2 min alte

[dawn sun]

LOOK YOU MIGHT NOT AGREE, WHICH IS FINE, BUT PLEASE TRY THIS FOR THE NEXT SET OF RUNS IN 1 MINUTES

AI UPLINK > WEST GATE IS THE PATH

KILL AT LEAST 5 UESC BEFORE TURNING YOUR RUN IN AT THE SECOND TERMINAL

PLEASE LET US TRY THIS

EVEN IF IT DOES NOTHING, WE CAN AT LEAST ELIMINATE IT AS A POSSIBLITY

JUST TRY IT

[night cobalt]

community is focused on sleeping atm

[stone coral]

Trying to run it with randos isn't that bad tbh, just go in with free loadouts lol

[opal garnet]

we going now?

[fringe veldt]

Now!

[slate oracle]

Just because you do it all caps doesn't mean folks are suddenly listening lmao

[dawn sun]

STARTING NOW

AI UPLINK > WEST GATE

5 UESC PER TERMINAL TURN IN

RUN IT

[astral elk]

Ill try that ty for letting me know where you got urs

[low carbon]

hrm good theory

[dawn sun]

It's to get attention twin ❤️

[mystic parrot]

can someone send a pic of the path

[dawn lodge]

Wheres the pic for this run?

[night saffron]

Best of luck, Runners. I'm bouncing like gnop for now.

[dry basin]

🫡

[toxic karma]

2

[muted grail]

B hopping my way to the truth.

[wintry dune]

Yall tweaking in here frfr

[frank ridge]

Within the same run I was able to do 2 terminal activations

[mystic parrot]

uh what

[dawn sun]

STARTING NOW

AI UPLINK > WEST GATE

5 UESC KILLS PER TERMINAL TURN IN

RUN IT

[copper glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/ynsanuz-overwatch-thinking-gif-14758806

[sullen axle]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-chapter-ch-3-ant-gif-8037405874518595817

Lets do this ig lol

[quiet rivet]

gl

[maiden brook]

camera09 rising!

[compact dew]

Hasn’t Bungie already confirmed each terminal run counts as 1 completion? Don’t think it gets harder as we approach 100 or changes based on UESC kills. We just don’t have the numbers because streamers don’t care at the moment.

[candid crystal]

we dont have numbers so we are using it to test

we impacted the numbers a lot in the last 30 min for the tests we did

[obtuse tinsel]

Im going to kill some so wish me luck !

[dawn sun]

STARTING NOW

AI UPLINK > WEST GATE

5 UESC KILLS PER TERMINAL TURN IN

KILL THEM BEFORE TURNING IN THE SECOND TERMINAL

RUN IT

[candid crystal]

ngl I do think bot kills is a inefficent tho ngl

maker too much noise poeple come to u

ive died every single run so far

[digital gate]

use the knoife

[thick aspen]

HAS ANYONE TALKED ABOUT THE CAPTURE SYSTEMS ON EACH CAMERA? I just did Index....

[digital gate]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-knifey-spooney-australia-bart-simpson-crocodile-dundee-gif-12120887

[frank ridge]

So i did
complex > AI Uplink (worked)
Then
Algae ponds> Bio Research
(Worked)
In the same run

[quiet rivet]

yeah apparently you can take a screenshot when it glitches

[dawn sun]

STARTING NOW

AI UPLINK > WEST GATE

5 UESC KILLS PER TERMINAL TURN IN

KILL THEM BEFORE TURNING IN THE SECOND TERMINAL

RUN IT

[dawn sun]

I mean i dont think its great, we're just testing it

[vagrant grove]

it saves the ones you've done successfully in your cookie

[dawn sun]

I don't think its even gonna do anything

[quiet rivet]

ahh

[thick aspen]

I see

[dawn lodge]

1st run done

[lucid void]

We gonna get a better way for people ti understand how to read this like is the first terminal located? Ai or west

[vagrant grove]

ai to west gate

[exotic flicker]

How’s it going runners?

[candid crystal]

u look a the picture

[maiden brook]

https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh

[vagrant grove]

keep dying to big guys lmaooo

[candid crystal]

Rough Ive died to runners every time ngl

[west current]

kill 5 uesc while there?

[candid crystal]

in general during ur run

[digital gate]

I think it's hilarious someone decided to randomly respond to me on youtube about Forerunners being human or not while we're doing this

[dawn sun]

STARTING NOW

AI UPLINK ----->>>>>>> (TO) WEST GATE

5 UESC KILLS PER TERMINAL TURN IN

KILL THEM BEFORE TURNING IN THE SECOND TERMINAL

EVEN IF YOU ONLY GET ONE RUN

RUN IT

[candid crystal]

but thats true we did not specify if we should kill bots after turminal during or before

[slate oracle]

That graphic makes zero sense. Start terminal and end terminal are their own columns but correspond to incorrect terminals? Then map location is on the x axis? Good god.

[candid crystal]

lets jsu say geneeral

[oak venture]

Do you think we're gonna end up working for the phor before the end of this game?

[lucid void]

Not this is what I’m talking about thanks for this

[mystic parrot]

theres a whole squad at my last terminal

[oak venture]

If we do, will that make us ||phor runners||?

[dawn lodge]

1 run 5 bot kills done.

[digital gate]

🤣

[radiant needle]

I run in naked

[dry timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391586725427675218/1476807805863333991/shocked-computer.gif

[muted grail]

I ded

[dawn lodge]

starting run 2

[dawn sun]

I killed mine after collecting the first term, but before the second term. Not sure it would matter though, but again I don't think UESC kill count has anything to do with it to begin with

[drowsy sparrow]

My personal lore theory is that we are all fragments of whatever Durandal/Thoth turned into, lied to about the origin of shells. We are the sword that broke tomorrow

[ornate linden]

well guys how did the testing go

[dawn sun]

STARTING NOW

AI UPLINK ----->>>>>>> (TO) WEST GATE

5 UESC KILLS PER TERMINAL TURN IN

KILL THEM BEFORE TURNING IN THE SECOND TERMINAL

EVEN IF YOU ONLY GET ONE RUN

RUN IT

[left kelp]

Underway

[mystic parrot]

5min

[final needle]

awesome theory

[drowsy sparrow]

Peep the graffiti

[dry basin]

hit the terminal just now

[quiet rivet]

wait thats a sick theory

[tulip parrot]

So they changed the requirements or...cause how did we fall that far?

[digital gate]

Dispensing music to decompress to https://youtu.be/baQVB2W1KAQ?si=2yGPQijyZiUHUEfU

[oak venture]

I'm personally hoping that the stated 'reason' for the resets is a lie, and we actually get infinity'd as the w'rk...whatever I c an't spell it, but you get me.

[ornate linden]

wasnt the timeline where durandal combined with thoth destroyed?

[dawn sun]

If this is true and I initially read about it from the pink tube sock guy im not gonna be very happy

Cool theory though

[drowsy sparrow]

That's a good thought too

[drowsy sparrow]

🤣🤣🤣

[oak venture]

None of the timelines from infinity can possibly be the timeline we're in right now, iirc.

[tulip parrot]

How did we lose so much progress?

[mystic parrot]

just ffinished my thing

[gilded drift]

Anybody got an image of one of the terminals? I can't get the image from the document

[dawn sun]

Biolink was abandonded

[honest garden]

Don’t think they changed the requirements, the climb became stagnate so we’re testing other theories

[sullen axle]

im unsure what happened but i didn't even get dialogue, AND there was just fucking nothing nearby for bots

[stone coral]

Did my run

[mystic parrot]

not enough people, we stopped running and started testing

[sullen axle]

so unfortunately i wont be able to get a run in i think

[ornate linden]

im pretty certain many of the original timelines were destroyed, so the one we are in rn has to be a unique one

[gilded drift]

This! Thank you!

[dawn sun]

Oh that's probably what you meant mb

[obsidian walrus]

someone to play outpost?

[oak venture]

It's also questionable if infinity is even really canon given how it interacts with everything on a developer side perspective

[dawn sun]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1303855380845301861/1476607292366393467

[obsidian walrus]

ty

[digital gate]

I don't get why people think Infinity's story has to be separate from this timeline. MR. 54 could have come back and activated the station in this timeline for all we know.

[vagrant grove]

done 1 + 5 kills

[stone coral]

So what are we testing exactly? How much progress we get from isolating random variables? Just trying to understand whats going on

[digital gate]

Cause the Tri'xeem is activated in all timelines. It says it in M2.

[dawn sun]

2 MINUTES LEFT

AI UPLINK ----->>>>>>> (TO) WEST GATE

5 UESC KILLS PER TERMINAL TURN IN

KILL THEM BEFORE TURNING IN THE SECOND TERMINAL

EVEN IF YOU ONLY GET ONE RUN

RUN IT

[ornate linden]

its explicitally stated that the security officer can go through the timelines no?

[oak venture]

Explicit is a strong term

[digital gate]

Yeah, nothing's stopping him from coming back to this one.

[oak venture]

Literally nothing in infinity is explicit

[tulip parrot]

Did we get an update from NULL?

[warm star]

can i ask a question - how come the routes to run keep changing? like what is preventing us from focusing on one

[dawn sun]

No

[bright notch]

Enough Fluff.

Status update? Y’all were trying the same method as before and progress went down.

I see the alternative solution attempt is killing drones along the way? I’m a little doubtful here.

[sullen axle]

not so much the officer but more like, us, thats at least what i interpreted from it

[dawn sun]

Not enough people to lock in any of the terminals, so we are testing different routes / methods to build completion for now

[ornate linden]

your pfp is so cute

[sullen axle]

awww thankie

[slender acorn]

why does frieren look like that...

[tulip parrot]

Perhaps we got lucky and there's a specific order we need to do them in? We just happened to pick the correct ones on perimeter?

[dawn sun]

Mr. Aura just entered the chat

[storm wyvern]

Anyone else notice the 2 on Cam09 is a different color?

https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/dashboard.html

[ornate linden]

dont ask questions you dont want the answer to

[fringe veldt]

Ayo

[slender acorn]

why does frieren look like that

[digital gate]

[oak venture]

she woke up too early

[toxic eagle]

It's like some kinda... Vexing Pattern :^)

[dawn sun]

This is possible, but it's hard to say. Since we were making progress on Biostock earlier, and can make progress on the other terms as well, it seems unlikely

[dry timber]

I think to some extent this game is using what Infinity established but my theory is Durandal did make it to the heat death of the universe, saw something horrifying and is now in this new timeline to stop whatever he saw (Probably the W'rkncacnter) which can help also explain the art changes

[oak venture]

Dumb question, do we KNOW people can contribute more than one success

[ornate linden]

funnily enough in the whole picture theres nothing actually going on, maybe she has a cold 😇

[mystic parrot]

very small increase

uesc is not the move imo

[slate oracle]

Okay I managed one run w 3 kills. Doing one off tests with multiple changed variables and no control tests is a recipe for disaster, y'all.

[tulip parrot]

I used the API tracker and saw it just stalled at like 40% and then took a nosedive...weird

[dawn sun]

Not for sure, but based on the bungie hints, it seems that people can contribute as many times as they want

It's just an assumption though

[bright notch]

They have to allow it.

[dawn sun]

It doesn't seem like bot kills had any real correlation on success

[fringe veldt]

😭

[bright silo]

I died, rip. There was a load of UESC and a player squad at the west gate.

[dawn lodge]

2nd run done

[candid crystal]

7 % Increase

[oak venture]

It jsut feels like if we're consistently bottling out against a reasonably stable number, given the variance in run lengths I'd suspect the main issue is how many players

[slate oracle]

We changed two variables though, what is this test going to tell us? That both 5 kills and doing one run is not that fruitful? Not to mention that the amount of folks running it is a variable we can't accout for.

[mystic parrot]

same for me but made it thru

[toxic eagle]

The music video cinematic ends with Conway's Game of Life/The Flower Game. Maybe he realized his universe is Destined to die by an unstoppable pattern until such a time that the Gardener and Winnower enter the game. Escaping the universe didn't yet make him god.

[candid crystal]

PLEASE VOTE if U HAVENT If u FIT CRITERIA

[dawn sun]

Yah this is how I feel as well. I mean it is likely that we just don't have enough people, but since we definitely don't have enough people atm, might as well test stuff

[mystic parrot]

i saw the guy from the first trailer in one of my earlier runs

[tulip parrot]

Maybe we missed something here? Why would only one of the perimeter terminal cam pages unlock if we completed them all...

[vagrant grove]

almost certainly step 1 of 7

[dry timber]

Yeah thats where I lean on too. Bro trying alternatives now to truly make himself a God

[dawn sun]

Could be a future part of the ARG. Since we were able to progress past Perimeter without messing with any of this

[muted grail]

I truly think its about player numbers. If we coordinate on peak times I'm sure we can knock it out.

[candid crystal]

13 runs 5 Kills on bots and terminal for cam9 7% INCREASe from 4

killing bots is not worth it

[dawn sun]

Yah, but unfortunately not peak times, so might as well rule out theories that people spam in here that we couldn't definitively say weren't true before

[vagrant grove]

yeah i'm sure that killing bots is a community-wide thing

[candid crystal]

we averaged 27 runs last time with a lot higher increase

[vale carbon]

i believe cargo is just the page with the cams on it

[toxic eagle]

He thought escaping to be god was one time only. He MAD.

[tulip parrot]

What triggered the page unlock? Did we ever get an answer?

[hidden sigil]

Bot killing feels like a red herring. It feels like in terms of puzzle design, it would be very strange to tack on uesc kills to an already vague set of conditions

[vagrant grove]

that's right

[final coral]

whats the current step fwiends

[dawn sun]

It was tied to the QR Code sticker

[candid crystal]

YES WE know this we just had to test for others who refused to believer

[tulip parrot]

Ah

[sullen axle]

yeah after the past couple of attempts, i think it really is just simply just a certain number we have to hit. Dont think theres anything else much to it

[vagrant grove]

that's why i think that it's just a multiplier to our progress

[torpid nimbus]

What step are we on

[vagrant grove]

so it's easier to get it done the more people just play the game

[sullen axle]

we just have to decide one 15 minute window to slam everyone in

[mystic parrot]

yall i hate to say it but we really just need a streamer

[dawn sun]

Step 2

[dry timber]

Clearly he didn't learn in Infinity lmao

[stone coral]

Do we know why 'steerage' is spelled like that?

[candid crystal]

Step 2 is to wait 15 min

correct?

[dawn sun]

Bungie is stupid unfortunately

[candid crystal]

before next cycle

[vagrant grove]

that's how it's spelt

[slate oracle]

Before us, IMO, are two paths:

We run more tests, but only if we actually do it right. that means control tests and individual variable changes, and it means a hell of a lot of them.

The other is that we just need to run it more and it's not possible tonight, it's monday, it's too late.

[hidden sigil]

My personal thought is the uesc kill tracker is a failsafe in case the community didnt solve the puzzle

[vagrant grove]

steerage is where the lowest class of passengers go

[stone coral]

lmaooo for real??!

[muted grail]

Thats good, gets more people on the same page instead of them being stuck on one idea.

[storm wyvern]

I think the UESC kill count raises the floor for the terminal decay. Cam 09 was stuck on 2% for 2 straight cycles, and it was a different color than the others.

[candid crystal]

Thats what we have been doing no?

[honest garden]

Naval term

[dawn sun]

Man what? What do you think wasn't controlled earlier?

[candid crystal]

27 Runs TOTAL 16% INcrease from 2% CAM 9

30 Runs INcrease of 14% From 10 STERAGE

we had this

from before

[vagrant grove]

i don't know what else "steerage" would be if you think it's spelled incorrectly

[candid crystal]

when we tested earlier

[storm wyvern]

Essentially a fallback for if the community doesn't actually get the terms

[dawn sun]

https://klipy.com/gifs/driving-indycar-on-nbc

[stone coral]

I thought it was meant to be storage

[honest garden]

Basically the lower deck(s)

[west current]

i think we just need more people yall. perimeter yesterday was easy. gotta organize

[stone coral]

ty

[candid crystal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/GEICO-who-wouldve-thought-woulda-would-have-guessed-2Jezeif7wOmmxdxBwX

[vagrant grove]

well, it kind of is that, but just storage for people who can't afford proper cabins

[vagrant grove]

ohhh sure hahaha

[slate oracle]

No we have not run any control tests. And we have been changing multiple variables pretty much every time I've been on here. I'm not trying to be doom and gloom, I just don't think it's meant to be this complex, y'all. We got one done already, I don't think it was a fluke, the player count on steam was orders of magnitude higher than anytime today.

[dawn sun]

https://klipy.com/gifs/speed-ishowspeed-58

[hidden sigil]

I seems to be online during off hours due to work. Do we try and schedule community runs this weekend with most people available?

[candid crystal]

What tests do u want to run then

[topaz idol]

The difference between Perimeter and Dire Marsh is that on Perimeter, streamers had lobbies full of players grouping up. I haven’t seen a single friendly streamer lobby today

[sullen axle]

I like to imagine Durandal is smiling at us right now. Watching us flail around at 2:30 in the morning

[hidden sigil]

Maybe we can bang out directly marsh Saturday and outpost sunday

[mystic parrot]

did we not literally just change one variable? we just added "kill uesc before terminal"

[candid crystal]

We swapped from one terminal route to a different route and waited 15 min in betrween each cycle to see the decay

[tulip parrot]

Yeah I'm kinda surprised Milo is just chillin on outpost rn

[candid crystal]

then we tried the samething with 5 bot kills

but I dont think we should od 5 bot kills again

[forest storm]

I bet he enjoys my paranoia and over analyzation of hearing bingus in outpost

[candid crystal]

I think we need to test the other terminal routes again

and do repeated tests

with run counts

[topaz idol]

Milo and Skarrow haven’t been mobilizing as much today. That’s why the progress has been shit

[slate oracle]

And the player count changed and the route changed. That's three variables.

My point is that accurate testing this late and at this scale is next to impossible. I'm not trying to be doom and gloom, I'm just saying that last test taught us nothing for a reason.

[dawn sun]

I'm gonna assume you aren't ragebaiting. We tested doing runs on AU > WG, and then we tested runs on Co > Ca. And then we did Bot runs on AU > WG. What part of you thinks that the first sets weren't control tests to base the bot tests off?

[candid crystal]

is 27 and 30 runs not similar?

[sullen axle]

dp the bio route enough times and you'll def see bingus sitting next to the terminal

[bright notch]

Correct on variables in question.

I agree with the community kill counts mentioned.

I’m still under the belief they’ve (bungie) been messing with stuff after our burst of progress. Technically, your faults for demanding an update before a daily reset, made them up the numbers no doubt thinking it was too fast.😂

If a streamer hasn’t organized today, perhaps they were told not to (I know they’re not sponsored, but they DO have info we don’t from bungie.)

[candid crystal]

This guy has to be ragebaiting

[mystic parrot]

the player count? you literally jsut suggested we do control tests and now ur saying its impossible?

[sullen axle]

I got to see it twice at least in some 60 runs

[raven cobalt]

To react to this. About 7 and a half hours ago i did 6 hours of runs on bio. Saw a poll with killing bots in runs. The runs i did most of the times not a single bott kill. We did manage to get above 50 percent.

[drowsy sparrow]

This plays into my shattered Durandal theory, Officer will come back as a major boss

[dawn sun]

"Technically your faults" I can't deal with it

[bright notch]

😈😈😈😇😇😇

[hidden sigil]

Lots of variables though, some people are think-tanking on Classic Marathon, some people see reddit posts and just jump in

[candid crystal]

Yeah this test was not bot kills

we were testing decay here

[forest storm]

Ty. Just wanna see bingus

[candid crystal]

and u can loook

at the time

[dawn sun]

https://tenor.com/view/reari-dog-barking-koreaboomina-bblmina-gif-24010279

[candid crystal]

and u can see on the chart

we made it go up

[dawn sun]

Im gonna lose it

[vagrant grove]

we were literally testing bot kills last cycle???

[viral hemlock]

We're thinking that Ai to West is Decay?

[candid crystal]

I was responding to our other stats PLEASE learn to read before u do this

[sullen axle]

Exactly what im thinking tbh

[honest garden]

(I had to take a break myself lol)

[dawn sun]

Nah nah nah lets just all cool down. We will just progress tomorrow.

It's unlucky

I will say something hurtful soon if I dont step away

[drowsy sparrow]

Why is no one talking about the fact that the counter is listed as "UESC Kills" and not "UESC Deaths"? I feel like the semantics here are important

[hidden sigil]

That one. On this scale we really just need to focus one, get the word out to the other communities, and brute force it til we get there

[sullen axle]

https://tenor.com/view/rewrite-sonic-sonic-exe-sonic-outcome-memories-gif-18339245340271198459

[candid crystal]

Lmaoo I feel that

[vagrant grove]

"this cycle" as opposed to "that cycle" pLeAsE lEaRn GrAmMaR

[stone coral]

Anyone know what this is? Found in the inspect element of cryoarchive.systems/cargo

[candid crystal]

love how u goto a grammer issue cause u realized u were wrong LMAOO

[vagrant grove]

this is the font used for the scrolling bar at the bottom

[candid crystal]

what region these guys are from

[slate oracle]

Noo, y'all, I promise I'm here w yall Im not rage baiting. I've been on the server all day and updating the reddit constantly. I just think that the clearest solution that we have learned from earlier testing is that player count is too low.

I highlighted that we would need to redo controls to demonstrate the infeasibility of it. I'm trying to discuss, not rage bait, I promise.

We did many tests just running it all day, you are right, but those are not true controls, not technically. We've all worked very hard, Trombone and Cythonic most of all, as well as pink tube sox.

Our solution is coordination and togetherness. We can and will accomplish this when we have player count behind us, I have full faith in that.

[honest garden]

Can’t remember exactly but it is known I believe, like we know about it I mean

[tulip parrot]

At this point it's kinda wild, they want us to solve a puzzle in the first week that requires spamming runs with little consideration of anything but getting the terminals, we've barely had a week in world and they want us to fully focus on running 1 map for essentially an entire day, jus sayin lmao

[stone coral]

thx

[vagrant grove]

there's literally a difference

[bright notch]

To be fair there’s multiple topics at play.

I’m HOPING it’s that simple for the requirement.

But…. I’m not used to/expecting simple.

Im signing off for now,

Good Luck.

[zenith falcon]

terminal locations at ai uplink?

and the next one too

[ornate linden]

arguing back and forth does nothing for the cause tbh

[candid crystal]

IMA WAIT till the western squad comes back A lot mroe progress was made then TBH

[stone coral]

Is there somewhere that all known info is kept in a document or something? I want to help but I'm too far behind on info

[candid crystal]

these guys jus wanna argue and get nothing done

[astral elk]

Any updates

[slate oracle]

I agree.

[mystic parrot]

yea i do think its awesome that everyone is coming up with all sorts of theories but at the same time its pretty obvious that we're literally just doing the same thing we did yesterday. there just arent enough ppl online and running it

[hidden sigil]

Yeah, its 3am, im tapped

[slate oracle]

Truth

[honest garden]

Er I’m on mobile currently and don’t know where shit is, can someone post the link if they have it please

[candid crystal]

I agree with u im jus tired i think we jus need to wait till tmrw with the same squad we worked with today

[mystic parrot]

gg everyone