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Itβs improvement
still up!
for sure, think my only issue with Rook so far is you can spawn in really random spots
IT STILL GOING UP. THE CLIMB IS THERE.
TIPS FOR RUNNING Sprint in water if u can even if it feels larger - and when high on heat crouch walk
dont do rook go solo tbh
We're still rising!
You can also bunnyhop while overheated.
IM GOIN IM GOIN
No need to crouch walk
been running solo assasin with just a knife
i dont overheat i dont think its worth
i was doing this but the load times genuinely are killing me
TREND IS UP. THE RATE IS SLOW. BUT IT'S CLIMBING.
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map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh
thats how i be getting sub 2 min
mayeb i could be faster if I b hoppped
i need to learn the Techh
Uhhh yeah just jump but donβt spam spacebar time it
what if dire marsh requires a different method than perimeter π€
i've returned to touch
killed by a camper
ONLY UP (now out on steam) NO MORE DIPS. ONLY TO 100%
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death is just the beginning. we run again
I spawned on premiter on accident DAMMIT π€¦
death is just the beginning
i cannot imagine what my sekiguchi bill is
Iβm just interested in our growth, this channel has blown up, when did you join?
16
40
4
Before this channel existed! (#lore discussion)
a trillion bucks at least
I WANNA SEE EVERY BUNGIE PC SCREEN ON THE DIRE MARSH LOADING SCREEN OUT THERE TOUCHING THOSE TERMS
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Goddamn, y'all are relentless & it's a lot of the same people in here every time I check lol
Good on ya
line go up. only up
WE need a TERMINAL TOUCHER ROLE
HERE COMES THE WALL. WE'RE GOING TO OFFSET THE DECAY. BECAUSE YOU ARE THE RUNNERS WHO ARE GOING TO DO IT. YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO CARRY US THE WHOLE WAY.
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we line up and get at it every time
yeah it's just not the play doing solos, gotta do rook
faster load times, quicker launch times
Valid
q: do we need the full voiceline or just start it?
Booty butt naked touching terms with the best of em
yeah like the rook runs themselves tend to be like 20ish seconds longer but that is still better then a extra minute of loading lol
doing it multiple times help or you just need to do it once ?
DURANDAL SNIFFING AT YOUR HEELS IF YOU DON'T RUN FAST ENOUGH. TERMINALS NEED TO BE TOUCHED. BUNNY HOPPING TO HOP. PUSH PUSH PUSH. WE CAN CROSS 55-60% ON THIS ONE
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As many times as you manage in a 15 min increment
Give er all ye got, cap'n
durandal sniffin my ballz
aight tyy
sweaty assassins man come on
but only 1 per run
VANDAL is so good when ur far spawn NGL
I HEAR THAT IF YOU TOUCH TERMINALS FROM ALGAE -> BIO-RESEARCH. MEW SPAWNS UNDER THE TRUCK NEAR THE S.S. ANNE IN VERMILION CITY
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Da Randal my dude
do I perma if I dont spawn next to the starting location
People are doing if you're over 300 meters away it's too much
Here I go running again
No, huff it, no matter the distance. A load in without a term touched is time wasted
YOU. YES YOU WATCHING. LURKING IN CHAT. WATCHING US GO INSANE. YOU COULD BE RUNNING. YOU COULD BE TERMTOUCHING. GET OUT THERE. GET PUSHING. GET RUNNING. MAKE THE GRAPH WALL HAPPEN. PUSH FOR 55-60%
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ONE DOWN GOING FOR ANOTHER
The best of us!
Yeah the loads can really screw you, despite just now getting a 2:16β¦ im still only on my second run lmao
Bro how do you pump out messages all day so fast
π
Found a Bingus in Bio by the terminal and extolled with a blue Bingus in hand
Ignore all responsibilities
you guys searching solo for these runs? im running into nothing but sweat timmys trying to fight
This is your new day job now
I just been running naked, shouting in proxy chat "I'm just touching terms, as you should be. I only got a knife on me" π€£π€£
I have decided to farm Mida for maximum speed to prepare for not only this but outpost later
Do we know what is bringing the numbers back down?
yeah thats what ima do tbh
"SWEETIE - IT'S TIME FOR DINNER" NO MOTHER IT'S TIME FOR TERMTOUCHING. THE MARATHON NEEDS ME. CRYO ARCHIVE CALLS ME. THE ONLY THING NOW IS RUNNING FROM ALGAE PONDS -> BIO-RESEARCH"
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It's a simple equation
Percentage lowers = not enough terms touched
Also hot single durandalβs in your area
Damn someone was friendly enough with me to let me go to the algae pond terminal, but as soon as I came down their team mate downed me
IDK i think im jus lucky I actually have not got shot yet by a random
people killing me and im talking in prox chat it's soooo stupid
people just don't turn that shit on
but i also am jus screaming at them in proxy
Just got a 1:28 run hell yeah
and it wastes time
Oh I'll find you, one of these runs
Spawned right at the location
were on the same team
Its for sure just not enough terminals? Not something like runner kills drops it?
HOT SINGLE DURANDALS SPOTTED IN YOUR AREA. RUN TERMINALS FROM ALGAE TO BIO-RESEARCH TO FIND THEM - 3 MINUTES LEFT.
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Do we know if you need to let the voice finish talking or if you can just back out
it's easy, go to terminals
Ay, what run are we doing right now for terminals?
That's gotta be the best one yet
Seems like Biostok has the most progress, do we know which pair that is?
Hehehe my idea π
Oh no I been touching those terms
people say the voice is the trigger but im nto sure tbh
Credit for the joke
i jus be reset as soon as i hear him speakj
Nothing wrong with letting the whole voice play
w method
how you do that
Should change your profile pick from your dac
They conducted a whole three hour experiment last night and determined percentage of competition is directly tied to the # of Durandal voice activations on a given terminal
Number of touches goes down, percentage goes down, touches go up, percentage goes up
Thank you my good sir
1 MINUTE AND 30 SECONDS RUNNERS. THAT'S EXACTLY ENOUGH TIME FOR A SUB 1:30 RUN.
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Bruh π
i might have to start bringing a nade in these campers are wild at bio research
Do you have to wait for the message to finish at Bio-Research? Ive been letting it finish anyway
is that taboo
Nope. Soon as he talk
Gotcha thanks for the explanation. gotta get back to touchin then.
Ayoo π
@drowsy sparrow ok nice
Itβs got personal info in it itβs linked to discord
if you arent making a cutoff WAIT for next cutoff
It's a digital id that is tied to your account
jesus okay
Second person today
I mean originally we learned it was voice based from the bungie hint. Idk that it was tied to some experiment.
Anyone have access to it, they're you
You're a godsend lmao
30 SECONDS - THANK ANY RUNNER WHO KILLS YOU (after the terminal triggers) BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST LETTING YOU HIT THE NEXT RUN FASTER.
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map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh
just got killed by two uesc turrets i've never seen spawn in canal before
Literally tells you DONT SHARE YOUR DAC
10 SECONDS WE WANNA SEE A BIG WALL. 55-60%
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I'm sorry I laughed so hard @ that bc I just died to the turrets there π
i got pincer attacked!
ONLY UP
how do u know if u did it ?
RECEIVING TRANSMISSION...
You'll hear a creepy voice line π
RECEIVING TRANSMISSION...
if durandal's voice line plays after the second terminal
I FEEL A BIG SPIKE
ROOKS ASSEMBLE
RECEIVING TRANSMISSION...
Got it!
Oh, the terminal can only be activated once per match or session?
Real rookin hours
More cowbell!
RECEIVING TRANSMISSION...
once per person per run
sigh
π
This guy knows ball
Oh, then Rookin's kinda down to luck of the draw then.
Bungie π
it went down lmao
bungie plz
Bro how
COMPLAIN IN QUEUE
we're just not getting enough people
Think they might have to adjust these numbers ngl
48% -> 44%
BEFORE A JUMP THERES A DROP
we legit just need BODIES
we need more people this is rough
wheres a streamer when u need em
worked yesterday but td like none of the streamers felt like doing terminals ig
There is a theory that the threshold for the decay to go up is 50% so it makes sense it's hard to get past
we hit 66 several hours ago i dont get it
I'm so tired...
Milo gave up without even doing a single run and went back to just dying over and over in Outpost games
how do you do it ?
Thats when eu was on
IT'S A ROUGH TASK EVERYONE I DON'T BLAME ANYONE FOR GETTING TIRED OF IT
I'm back on and running
what this
feel like we finished them all yesterday around this t ime tho
wtf is here a Axorm ?
Bro we need Milo
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD
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The completion % since runs started today.
We also had like 2 or 3 streamers pushing actively.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mtUtDPvbh6ahiynYFVS7Z4O79Nw6y5PEOjweCpzWV_A/edit?tab=t.0 the full arg is in here. But to help you just need to run from the algea pond to the bio research term
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if my legs give out my arms will carry me to the terminal
They decided that they'd "do it tomorrow"
Keep it climbing or at least steady
Bingus please carry me
start going from stream to stream and ask if people would be willing to join
maybe these 3 require a different method, perhaps all 3 need to go up at once
yea i mean i can understand the appeal to normal matches since the term grind is monotonous but still, we need someone
Few people have nicer live sites that display it - that's just my personal Gdoc tracking script
I was so hopeful we would get to outpost tomorrow
Accurate, 11:45ish CST, I remember bc I had 15 minutes before I got off work when they completed the last cam
IF THEY TAKE MY LEFT ARM, I STILL MY RIGHT. IF THEY TAKE MY RIGHT, I STILL HAVE MY LEGS. IF THEY TAKE MY LEFT LEG I STILL HAVE MY RIGHT. IF THEY TAKE MY RIGHT. I CAN STILL CRAWL. BECAUSE I AM A TERMTOUCHER AND I TOUCH TERMS
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Was also a weekend yesterday
Legit the more people we do this just at once the quicker they can go back to normal content. It's all about how many people we can just do it. If the threshold was 1000, and we only have like 400 people, we're not gonna have enough. We need all the people we can get. The quicker we just get these people to lock in, we could do it theoretically in like one run or two.
maybe bungie takes away a point whener we mention termtouching
Also, accurate
silk scrubbing
We were at it like all day with way more people
people literally said the reason we weren't making progress yesterday was because it was a weekend until streamers started pushing
Panel poking? Donk triggering? Swamp sliding?
DON'T YOU DARE BUNGIE THAT WORD IS OURS. I CAN MAKE IT WORSE. TERMSTROKING. WE'RE TERMSTROKERS NOW.
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progress = people
lmaooooooo
thank you
oh for sure, dont get me wrong i absolutely understand that as soon as we get enough its light work. sucks that its so reliant on streamers, lol.
No problem good luck
can i termmaxx as rook
GET OUT THERE AND STROKE THOSE TERMINALS RUNNERS. I WANNA SEE YOU GET UP NICE AND CLOSE AND PERSONAL (for exactly the length of time it takes to activate) LET THE TERMINAL KNOW HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO YOU
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I feel like even the arg could generate hype and content for people though, and it gets finished pretty fast once it gets going, kinda crazy they wouldnt just wanna push for it and get it out the way in an hour considering its meant to unlock the final cool map
Im getting so tired but i will continue to touch terms till my last breath
Just enjoy the ride. Nothing better than keeping up with the ARG at launch and being a part of it.
There is a lot more steps after this one π
better than term touching, though
This! We put in the work we can, and enjoy it for as long as we can! It WILL get done soon
We could literally unlock the terminals for Outpost for tomorrow reset but instead streamers decide they don't want that. I just cannot understand what the reason is to just not lock in for like an hour or so.
what we supposed to do?
do rook runs count?
yeah prob, but youd think theyd wanna be working on the current one whenever its available just to move on to the next one
yes
Yeah hopefully future steps rely on logic and indavidual breakthroughs not large in game player base requiring stuff
Same question. I have been running rook runs.
yeah i think people gave up ngl
they count
i was encoutering term touchers every round
7 MINUTES TILL REFRESH. THAT'S SO MUCH TIME TO TERMSTROKE RUNNER. WHISPER SWEET NOTHINGS BACK TO DURANDAL. STROKE THAT TERMINAL TO LET HIM KNOW HOW MUCH HE MEANS TO YOU.
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now its like 0 in the last 15 runs
Ok cool
ran into squad, they let me live and asked what I was doing. tried explaining the terminals and just thought I was trying to trick them
people are allowed to play the game normally. itβs a bit rude to think everyone wants to grind out terms. so what if i takes a bit longer?
does it count for a 3 man doin it at the same time
This is literally the channel for the ARG.
or would solos be better
Yeah if im being honest I dont think we can get it tonight there is just not enough people without a huge streamer ima do more runs at peak hours tmr
Ambatubreach
Put it like this "follow me. My back is to you, you can kill me anytime. Let me show you something really cool, them I'm at your mercy"
It's worked with about 5 people for me
it's gonna go down most likely
correct, but blaming streamers for not wanting to push terms isnβt going to make them go up faster. touch them terms instead brother
average Arachne cultist
im still trying to do some runs NGL
ill try until next update
if we go down again
It doesn't matter if 50 people keep doing it over and over again if we need 200 people for example.
new runner joining the fight
i think im callin it
(I hope you got a chuckle out of termstrokers devs π )
MORAL IS DOWN. BUT RUNNING IS UP. WE OUR HERE TERMSTROKING THEM TERMS. CAUSE WE ARE THE TERMINAL STROKERS GANG.
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map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh
4/5 were mindblown, and hit hype as hell, one was just like "so?"
I dont wanna blame them, but I honestly doubt we wouldve gotten the last three without them, and the dire marsh ones have been... dire, with no streamer doing them
I'm just looking at the facts.
someone spam it in peanuts chat if he ever plays marathon again
You're 100% correct. We quite literally need them.
I'm gonna keep running if anyone wants to chat to kill time or team up feel free to dm.
Nah we would have got perimiter its just dire is going to be the hardest map of all
Hey don't disrespect Skarrow like that π
difference being we have been term touching, clearly not working with the amt of people trying, lol. not trynna be a pain, just objectively speaking we cannot do this without streamers (as they have reach)
4 MINUTES TILL REFRESH. IF IT GOES DOWN IT MIGHT BE ROUGH, BUT IT WON'T. CAUSE YOU ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL AND STUNNINGLY GORGEOUS RUNNERS. WHO WILL MAKE IT GO UP
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if they wanted us to work in pairs why didn't they give us duos lol
Its okay guys, all us Aussies are still at work, we will help in like 3-4 hours time π
I aint got much of a community around marathon but i'm trying to push myself as well
Mate - I've just abandoned all work π
skarrow kinda fell into the same boat as us lol, he saw the progress not going up and no other streamer doing terms so he just stopped focusing on it
No disrepsect but in 4 hours all of na is offline and nothing will get done till eu wakes up
hopefully itll just pick up tmrw
I hope
i am off next 2 days
I salute you
So dont bother with terminals when i get on later??
Im down to go for one last push if it goes up again tho
ima jus try to organize
I thhinmk
if we fail today
we make a schedule
for tmrw
yeah it's legit midnight here in east coast
for diff time zones
2:30 RUNNERS. AND THE WALL STARTS AGAIN. BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING LIKE ABSOLUTE LEGENDS. NO SCHEDULE TALK ONLY RUNNING.
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RESPECT RUNNER
i am not saying they arenβt needed to help the push. i am saying that it is unfair to expect that everyone wants to grind them.
It depends check what they are at but if they are really low because of low playerbase there is not a point till more people get on. its just the unfortunate reality for people in uncommon time zones I just dont want you to waste your time for nothing.
His chat even wants to do it, he's just not pushing enough people to do it.
THIS IS THE LAST CHANCE. THIS IS THE TIME. IF IT'S GONNA BE DONE IT'S GONNA BE NOW. NO SLEEP TILL L'HOWON. ONLY TERMSTROKING
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Also How are we reaching out to console players feel like they dont use discord too muc
whats the prgoress at?
console is majority how can we get more of them to know
i've never been more motivated in my life, sarge
I don't blame him for wanting to play the game. However, he has a UESC box behind him. He's part of these ARGs. By people not pushing this today, we have to wait another day for Outpost terminals to unlock. It stretches out this whole thing. It makes everyone's hard work go to waste.
I am one of them!
Thats another problem is its not apealing to console
could we potentially be doing the wrong one first? even when more and more people were joining it seems like it didnt progress atall
I think seeing such little progress (and even lost progress) has likely discouraged people unfortunately. I am continuing to do runs, but I doubt we will get it done tonight unfortunately. Having a scheduled push would be nice.
1 MINUTE LEFT ON THIS RESET YOU CAN HIT A SUB-30 RUN
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Current Progress: 44%
map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh
i have to admit i got addicted to the unstable biogel from bioresearch and exfilled, only for my game to crash π
you should still retain your loot once you load back in
do we have the voice lines of ALL the terminals? maybe we did get lucky in permiter what if it is a certain order that makes it easier
i shoulda just termtouch
realistically I should be dying the second I get it, but i'm also farming my unstables
We have all voiclines
like this third terminal says to board the marathon do the others say that 2?
if the next one shows a downslope, we are probably cooked for today
dont suggest ideas, they prefer to smash there heads agaisnt walls
2:49!! finaly a sub three run
WANNA TERMTOUCH? TERMTOUCH! WANNA TERMSTROKE? TERMSTROKE. 10 SECONDS RUNNER. THIS IS IT
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huge
true but maybe a new day we try a new terminal im not saying swap today, but what if we swap tmrw if it doesnt go up
What's the idea? We love ideas π But we're getting progress, albeit slow right now and got progress yesterday so why change?
are people just estimating progress btw? Or is someone digging around in the json
the doc has all of the voicelines so far
We have just already found its just a player problem the only reason perimiter was completed is because 2 different streamers said to do it at the same time when na was still awake.
thats what im thinking. i think we got the order wrong
RECEIVING TRANSMISSION...
Where can I see the progress?
timer stopped?
yeah i need to listen to them
cryarchive.systems/cargo
ive suggested 3 times that perhaps this isnt the correct method this time
Reset! gogogogo
timer back :9
there is no order, you just do the terminals
whoβs? like if his chat wants to do it nothing is stopping them. i get that if streamer says do it some more might join in. i donβt think we are going to see this from the same perspective though so take care and continue to touch them terms runner
we did this once already, we know how it works
Fan made _ https://winnower.garden/marathon/cryoarchive
Official - https://cryoarchive.systems/cargo
Cryoarchive Systems
Yah I mean idk man
I mean we got to 66% earlier
It is tho its working at the same rate as perimiter its just that it takes more time on this map and we have less people doing it
34!!!!
perhaps they need to leveled up together, we dont know unless we try. but since ive gone to bed and woken back up there has been 0 progress
I'm kinda thinking the same we couldn't go past 50 when I started
first terminal run down :)
oh great heavens
sadly unless someone big says it no one is willing to try it
where
What do you think it might be then? Genuinely curious. It's going up, even if it's not consistent.
oof, well im calling it a night
Who is "us?" π
btw do we need to hear the entire voice line at the end terminal?
where is the voicelines
up to 50
Milo, and I meant more like his mods and stuff are talking about it but he himself isn't pushing for it. Without active push and explanation no one knows what to do and so they won't do it.
how do you know?
No just starting it should be enough
I mean what would you suggest as an alternative? We're operating off the bungie official hints, and havent been given any information that progress would be any different that with Perimeter
44% - 34% - I THINK IT'S DONE FOR TODAY FOLKS π
okok
On perimiter with like 4 times the people doing all at once just slowed it down it made it take like 3 hours even with streamers, there is nothing we can do but get more people or get streamers it sucks but there is nothing else to try.
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Because it's what worked yesterday
We legit did this yesterday already with Perimeter. We already know how this works.
im still doing algae > bio, just trying to do the other 2 addiontally perhaps
I built most of mine around D2 so i bet you can imagine how they feel
damn
This. I wouldn't be running and trying unless I got help from someone to find the terminals and such
We regroup tomorrow a plan
π
right but its i different map and we couldve gotten lucky yesterday
Maybe we alternate terminals every reset
Should we get groups together to just rush head in?
But like if they needed to be activated together, why would progress for the different terms be split? And with a big focus on the bio run pair, we are seeing progress on that corresponding camera
just focus on one at a time
mb lol, not speaking for everyone, personally, I've been doing this for like 10 hours so I think ill wait for tmrw, unless we get a surprising miracle push
when is the best time for a worldwide push? i wanna take a day off for this shit
Just spit balling
euro term touchers you know what to do
Gotten lucky in what way? In the end there was no consistency with the progress - they were all going up together.
I was mainly kidding man lol and hey you never know, the nocturnals could show up in force after midnight
We were at it for HOURS until streamers came online and pushed HARD on these things. Multiple streamers online actively telling their chats to do it. Kept spamming to do it. Explained how to do it. Showed resources on how to do it. Today we have nothing.
I'm not pulling shit out my ass, I'm speaking from experience with yesterday.
It's also Monday tho
Dawg Iβve done 1
I think maybe we alternate terminals every few resets or every reset maybe just to try
Everyone kills me :(
legit people said the same thing "oh it's a weekend" when we weren't making progress until streamers came online
this is 2+2=4 type shit, more runners
The progress was pretty steady for quite a few hours after everybody agreed to focus on one terminal
literally DEPLOY MORE RUNNERS from the bot
Yeah this also confirmed it was literally just a popularity problem its dumb but it is what it is
This is the message we got from NULL yesterday that kicked us off - it's pretty clear. "One trigger one count. More Runners."
so guys where exactly should i rat and wait for rooks to walk by
Honestly I wish it was more π
Nah we're done for today no progress π
Donβt :(
Like idk how else to say big number = big progress
Yeah we probably just need more people
it's just maths
so we reached 66 today with minimal organisation? its fiiiiine
I just wish we had more people rallying here
Could someone maybe make a video explaining how to do it and the locations? I have some marathon Facebook groups that I could post to that would be down to help I think.
Brother I mean this in the nicest of ways but you sound like you need nap, a snack, or a great extraction with some loot
Im confused, is there an argument or something happening? I just got like 2 runs completed
We are done for today no progress
and immediately dropped to 44
One trigger one count so we need 100 triggers within 15 mins?
Cause like IM insane enough to do it and i only know one other insane to do this with me lol
im sure it gets easier to complete the closer it gets to the day outpost terminals unlock
I think we need something a digestible to share to get people involved.
I'm sorry, but I'm trying to convey simple information. I'm just using bold for emphasis. Don't take it personally.
Someone doesn't want to play on the new Cryo map π«€
Its definitly more than 100
We're hitting way over 100 though
NA is starting to log off so we are probably cooked for today, will have to regroup tmr with the hope of streamers pulling their communities in
Just the daily deluge into madness before we get inspired again and finish it all in an hour
Followed by 34... interesting
200 ig
YOU ARE NOT ALONE
I'M TOUCHING TERMS UNTIL I FALL ASLEEP MID RUN
Love your work β€οΈ You're a STAR. We went backwards again even with a massive push. So we're regrouping β€οΈ
They only unlock once we finish these
wait its only in that 15 minute time frame?
I would say we shouldnt argue we should discuss
@mortal quail give help pls
I'm touching my terminal thinking about him (Durandal)
Whats the run? Still algie to bio?
dont ignore any opinion
Yes
unfortunately
dont be rude to eachother we are all trying to figure this out
Every 15 min timeframe
I guess that second run didnt count then damn
Someone else ping a dev
It just is 15 min intervals
We have international Breachers, they're all over the manifest, never know what they can pull off
@mortal quail help us please my lord π
Nah - they'll help us if they feel we need it.
Upvote
Null will ALWAYS give us an update when Bungie wants us too
I'm off for the night here's last 28 hours or so of progress on cams
Okay does anyone have conrete proof like website analysis or other source on if it resetes to zero every 15 mins or is a cummulative progress with decay. This matters a ton.
Either way - We need more numbers. Whether it's consecutive per run or it's Contained with THAT run, we need more numbers. The solution doesn't change haha
Here's what we do. Go to bed. Resign ourselves with the pure and simple facts that without enough Runners on Tau Ceti we simply cannot do this. Milo resigned himself from this. People can lurk in his chat, but odds are he's given up. We regroup tomorrow and hope for the best.
Null is marathon jesus
We just need to synchronise our watches π
i found one of the panels for outpost!!
I guess we'll see how much it drops next run haha
Yeah, look at this spike. This is what 2+ streamers actively pushing HARD on this did yesterday.
All outpost terms are found we just dont know route because they are not active yet
there's definitely just a multiplier that goes up every day
Lets just not do anything for 15 mins
I can agree lets see how much it drops
I agree but some people will keep going
let them go
Thank you! I'm sure someone will grab it for the docs if it's not already been grabbed
if it drops by a lot
If you need a break, take a break, this is a great time. Yes we need more Breachers, but we also have a lot that can at least keep a decent status quo, those of you with the gumption to still make it function, keep them terminals well touched, it's not a sprint, after all, guys
I don't believe there is anything in the the API as it's getting the stats from Bungie servers
then we can understand
OKAY THIS RESET HAS 5 MINS, AFTER THIS NO ONE DO A RUN WE ARE TESTING THE DECAY
Got killed by dmg04. Know this when my destroyer implants and cores are attached to your body, I will forever live on. Let me be thy strength.
it should be a 1% decay everytime we fail i thought?
No, it's a... Marathon 
rook outpost gaming for 15 mins it is then π
Nope we just dropped almost 10%
Ohhhhh I'm actually game for this
it will drop more than that
What cameras did we activate first and in what order yesterda?
I can chill for a cycle
Index -> Control -> Cargo
And we have so many Marathons yet to run β€οΈ
Whats the source on this ive seen it drop by over 15 and some people say it goes to zero after each run and its a all in one 15 cycle requirment
so no runs for a reset?
β€οΈ
What if we need to run the terminals in a certain order
Yes we want to test the decay
Ben Starr please help us
For the decay to stop
remember to get yourselves a snack and to hydrate. you canβt caress terminals on an empty tummy
I dont think its that because yesterday they just brute forced it
After 5 more minutes, then we all run it again π π
We tested this to a pretty decent extent on perimiter and it did nothing
ok well i just died and i dont think im gonna make it in time so ill go perimeter
How do I interact with the terminals? I donβt get a prompt
Just got back home, whats the current route?
Yeah no runs for this one, just to see how far it drops. I'm sure it won't go down to 0 just because someone will inevitably touch them.
OHHHH
I guess I'll try doing the intro to nucaloric contract again since I only find the terminals done as rook.
dont bother trying i already suggested something similar
beeps when you get near
well thats a good thing cause i died lol
just walk up to them. first one will ding, second will do a voiceline
We are taking a break to test the decay because everyone has got off
Im doing my part 
No interacting, just walk up to it until you hear a ding
I see thank you
We could try and find a math/statistics guy and see if they'd be willing to run live graph analysis tomorrow, and coordinate different approaches and see if we are overlooking a viable strat
\We only have output progress so we can't know what real calc is.
Could be x in 15 and full reset, could be threshold based, do more than x it goes up some based on amount over, do less than x it goes down based on amount under.
Oh, so, we wait 20mins
yeah like me who was watching the discord and just finally decided to hop on to help lol
Lots of theories, no proof.
Then we all run again
Bro get your intros done
is there a reason why we did INdex first BTW guys
Do I have to interact in a single run?
oh might be like the total number of fails then, its probably like a threshold thing no? like, not enough pairs and we're in the negatives and enough pairs we're in the positive and we always start negative when the reset happens?
it was the first one we got progress with
This game stresses me out so much...I don't play it a lot.
idk throwing out my theory
lol that's okay! We appreciate your spirit!!!
Based on basic high school math it looks like it goes to zero every time thats why I want 100% confirmation of this.
yeah you go from terminal a to b in a run
How did we stabilize the cameras?
Fair enough
But we've seen numbers go up after a reset, unless you're meaning a daily reset
but today we have a bit of progress on 2 and half way on 1
BUNGIE! HEAR MY CRY! WE WILL GET THIS DAMN CAMERA ONLINE! EVEN IF IT KILLS ME (not literally) (maybe)
Does someone have a route image?
A small group tried to push Overflow -> North Relay and it worked. So we all jumped on it.
my guess all day has been the amount of runs needed needs to be completed in a specific time frame
Who was the guy asking about video for the runs?
Yeah now that we've had some success I guess people are just doing it
Can we Try switching it up depoending on how much it dropps
There's probably lots of people not on here
We need streamer help ngl
Originally were doing the control run, and then we wanted to test progress on a different pair, so we pivoted to index < this is real
I don't see that will hurt.
I think this test is skewed because people where still doing it for the first 7 I think we need another test after this its going to zero either way
I feel like most my fails have been before even getting to the 1st terminal. I feel like getting to bio is pretty easy for it to be counting failed connections.
π«‘ Iβm sure theyβre making each stage harder than the last and can modify the difficulty on the fly. Itβll get there eventually.
Like honestly I think we wrap up completting it today
I concur
And we do some tests
I did in fact witness this first hand
Only way to test truly if it is threshold or a reset is to have 0 interactions and see if it drops to 0 (even then doesn't 'prove' because threshold could have that built into calc too but it makes full reset theory more likely)
The route for biostock is by far the easiest so unless we have proof another helps I dont see a point but I would not be against it
even if there are people constantly doing it we can see progress look at the graph and see % based
BUT how do you get 0 interactions? Just randoms playign probably gonna find a map terminal and go donk the other
How did we stabilize the cameras?
The West Gate run is also pretty easy tbf
no i mean shit its hard to explain in text LOL, errrr... its like a progress bar that resets everytime the countdown finishes, we start off in a zone where if we dont get enough pairs we go down a certain amount, but if we get enough pairs we go up a bigger amount. fuck im really bad at explaining LOL
I'm still gonna smash the same route for a couple of hours, I think there's others who are of the same mindset, maybe we'll get a nocturnal push from the night shifters
But even before this channel existed the cameras were locked at 1%. And they started at 0. There can't have been only ONE person doing the terminal connections in that 15 minutes every time
Also I'm sure ssome people have already hit the terminal pairs before we decided to not
100
push what u want today
Its based on getting a ton of pairs on a set of terminals. We just had a ton of pairs for the cams for perimeter yesterday
im jus saying we should make some tests with the Majority of the group
cause it aint working
The only unfortunate thing about stopping is that it will be one more day delaying outpost, which honestly might be a good thing. There is obviously a plan/release window expected, they couldβve slowed it down intentionally to slow us down (just speculating)
Oh I agree
even if we have 300 players less than yesterday we should test other ones
I agree the small pop of nocturnal friends should use their time to test because they dont have enough people to complete it
Yah I agree that we should try to do testing for stuff now if we can
If anyone has anything they want to try now is the time
Is there any place someone can get up to date on how to help the hunt?
we just have to agree on something
Okay lets see if it drops by like more than 15 than I think it goes to zero every time
Now's the time to throw out your ideas! π
perimeter got completed later than it is now
Someone link the doc π
we have to harness the power of billy mitchell, world video game champion
This entire document is navigable via the collapsible menu on the left, many pieces of information may be not relevant yet, a red herring or already completed. https://discord.gg/MVnbVxHQz - this server has vcβs, LFG and more focused discussion around the arg, for now this is not necessary but...
Guys is not interesting to you that Camera 9 Does not have a name?
dont give up π
It is yeah
Yeah most people think the requirment is made easier the longer they are out
Yeah I was thinking about that
makes sense
Yesterday did all 3 cameras have a name?
I'm kinda seeing what you're meaning. My understanding is you're theorizing that, essentially
Transmitter+receiver=positive "points"
Transmitter - receiver = negative points
It's an interesting theory, but would need testing. None of the hints seem to suggest this, the hint we got was "one voice is one count"
i only actually noticed this a couple minutes ago
at the start
Best way I think of it is
1.New window starts
2.In the event durendal dialogue is activated it's recorded as a point (Starting at 0)
3.When the window closes it adds up all total points
4.Compares this total to the goal value to get percentage achieved.
This is right about now when the streamer wall happened - no streamer wall today
2%
I still think it's exponential decay
srsly
Damn alright I'll admit I was wrong
Yah they did, but those have been named that way since release. I would imagine the other ones correspond to actual locations in cryo archive, and the "camera" cameras are just general areas? Rather than like in specific locations
And the expnential decay jump feels MASSIVE after 40-50%
I know a lot of people are enlisted on Reddit
This feels the most accurate
I actually haven't checked out Reddit yet for this
No shot with us not trying it here there was only 6 activations missing.
Yah thats true. I would say this community in here is likely pretty small compared to the total number of people interacting with terminals
Twitter, Twitch, Reddit, etc
Another thing guys it feels like the other 2 cameras besides Bio are on the same page
You lying
lots of smaller communitties
I've still been touching terms
Ah of course
like look at the pattern of the stats
so we running again?
its been pretty consistent for the other 2 cams
I did some a friend of mine was doing some there is lots of us just not enough
I meant it when I said I intend to fall asleep touching
I'm thinking there are two two criteria: minimum point threshold for every x%, and the % difference between last window's point amount. Failure to hit both results in a bigger loss
but is that bc peoplle are running all 3 terms?
If it isn't completed today, we are likely to get another bungie - offical hint tomorrow. So might be worth waiting for that as well
I dont see a point runnning I think we should watch and see if it goes straight to zero
im wondering if theres a possibility that the camera progress are somehow linked to the other camera's own progress, because like mentioned already we hit a certain point and it just decays a TON
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We are not getting this without a streamer untill eu wakes up 100%
Are the other % consistently going up? Iβm genuinely asking my laptop is dead
Nope.
They are hovering at like 5%
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Sterage Peaked at 14 and Cam9 at 15
Okay for the sake of experimentation, I'll contribute to the non-touching
and the other ones are consistently going down?
Hm.
Do you think the uesc kill count/minute lines up with the camera percentage rate gain?
it goes up as the % goes up, but when it goes down, the camera percentage does also seem to struggle to keep going up
So should I keep running or are we gonna test the drop?
Our biggest peak today was during roughly 5-6pm North American Central Time, can we coordinate a group effort all at that specific time instead of sporadically throughout the day? I feel like grouping it all up might be able to just kick us all the way up
im also doing a no touch for this reset, lets use this as a quick break
Everytime Steerage Peaked it felt like we decayed oN bio
I honestly think that's for another part of the ARG entirely
it's very possible, yeah
looking at the chart
So I like scheduling a run but I feel like itβll have the reverse effect (a lot of people at once but still not enough)
I'm pretty sure it's a leftover from a red herring (i.e. "brute force")
lets see how much it drops here, if its a big amount, then it may just be purely tied to touching the terms
I could see this, after a new peak it slows down and jumps the decay strength temporary
So I would say it's something like
stabilisation = stabilsation + (termtouches - (thresholdGoal + (baseDecay * decayThreshold))
After Cam 9 peaked it felt like steerage decayed
So is the idea is we run from terminal to terminal to get the progress bars up and need multiple people to do that to keep the progress bar going up?
This was when Skarrow started helping us, but I think it would be smart to start at like 3pm central so we can get a large rally going again by the time a streamer comes along
Only one way to find out
Am i crazy or do u guys see this in the chart?
I think a large part of the playerbase has no idea about any of this lol
How many people you guys think figured out how to activate the terms, without finding a group? The low lines could be those kinds of runners
We NEED to be trying to talk to people on proxy, even if it gets us killed
I think the best use of my time if we're going to experiment to look for a zero cycle, is to recruit through proxy on Perimeter, lower level players, less likely to have a lot of PvP, and the terminals still work there, yeah?
I ran into someone on Perimeter last night that said you need to kill UESC after touching terminals (IDK if outdated info or just speculation)
We already know its just the terms we just dont know if its a type of decay or goes to zero after every 15 min reset
This I agree with (should've known it was Skarrow lol), get the ball running before hand, have a streamer come in, and everyone locks in as the majority of the american player base is coming home from work/school
This was a theory we tried on day one quickly disproven
what if incomplete terminal pairs counts towards the decay? idk if thats been disproven or tested out
Bc I found out how to activate a pair without a phone Saturday night, that's why I showed up in here yesterday(I left my phone in an Uber lmao)
We are pretty sure UESC kill count does not have an effect. I mean not 100% sure, but it seems unlikely atm
like you die trying to get to terminal b
Iirc it was a tracker in the API for some other condition related to one camera(?), so I don't think it is for all cameras as a whole
That's a great theory - it's based on found code in the API, but we have not noticed an impact on the terminals
We discussed it but no testing
I mean if y'all want, im down to try a period of time where we try pushing a different set of terms
while we are throwing out idea I would like to say there is a very wierd one minute outlier in uesc kills per minute I think bungie is intentional intervining with statistics in some way.
Yo, interesting
I think the UESC kill count will be a sort of threshold check for another chunk of the puzzle
Current theory is that UESC kills are probably for another future step. Maybe after the cameras are all up. Obviously not confirmed
I think it's legit just a tracker bungie has for the sake of those fun "player number roundup" posts
True but if we say 7pm EST that isolates a lot of people, Iβm not disagreeing with you but if would have to be planned very well
I mean maybe, I think it's a red hering, but who knows
That was RIGHT after reset
Bungie historically has a VERY detailed API "just in case"
Do different terminals have different gain rate multipliers? Maybe we'd have higher gain if there is some kind of order to it vs strictly just running any pair to completion
im ngl at this time of the night we aint gonna have much luck with the terminal maxing at this hour of the night
That is what we are trying to figure out
Oh true
Ah maybe UESC kills is just a backup run that in time would eventually trigger, even if we didn't figure out the actual puzzle
Its for a future step or a red hairing
hard to test for, but I donβt think that many people are dying going to terminal
B, itβs a pretty easy run
Like honestly - this felt very targetted at us because it kinda answered MOST of the arguments/discussions at the same time haha
What do u guys think it means DATACOLLECTSOVERFULLPERIOD
An additional reason for why I don't UESC kill count is related to stabilization: we wouldn't be having a stabilization issue in the first place since most people who play are killing UESC
My current theory is that bungie may be wanting us to stabilize the terminals to be around the same percentage while we progress, so having people generally work on all the terminals. I know we did them one by one yesterday, but we did also just have an abundance of people
Agreed, I was pointing to where I saw the biggest peak, if you think we could pinpoint a better time, let's figure that out. I would try to pinpoint a time that meets where streamers could be alerted by us, mobilize the community, just as a lot of people are finally free for the weekday
Nah it wouldn't be included on the website if that were the case
yes
We were arguing at the time about whether to complete them in the 14 minute pre-API call time or during the ~1 minute API call window.
yeahh i guess that is pretty clear that it's just number of runs completed in the 15 minutes
The 15 minute window surely
the 15 minutes is the only thing it could be referring to imo
oh it's specifically in the website? guess I missed that part my bad
All good!
I just know that with Destiny in general the API was stupid detailed
HAPPY We can agree on one thing Lmaoo
yeah lol
xD
I haven't ran. I guess we're waiting till the next reset?
wheres the actual api site
Also very detailed here lol. Curious when we'll get a companion app
It means it includes the time it says transmitting because it says full 15 min window and the transimiting time is part of the 15 mins the actual timer is about 14
this was what i was thinking, though its just a guess since yk no evidence point towards it sorry i had to make a shitty drawing to visualize it
yeah im waiting personally to see the progress
IDK How u Guys feel, BUT I KINDA WANNA DO 1 RESET ON Steerage and 1 on cam 9 and see the %Increase of just the discord influence
is it going down?? damn
thats a really solid idea
Doing these terminals on marsh is brutal man. Like every 2/5 runs im able to complete a loop solo
Does anyone have the voice lines from all the terminals? Maybe we have to do it in order of the voice lines. We can also check if the perimeter order we did yesterday matches up with the correct phrasing
Yah I would also like this. Might be difficult to motivate people though
so we're guessing the progress is directly impacted by comparing the current 15min interval to the previous?
I think we need to start testing
We will get no where
right now is break period where see the drop
I made the API tracker posted above and I feel extremely confident that the UESC kill counter is for a future part of the website. Same with literally all the other stuff on it that is not active yet. Bungie told us straight up what counts and when it counts
but we should try to figure out what to do
yeah cause we've been slamming our skull against this terminal for a bit
Does each 15 min interval line up with normal (current Earth) time?
i really wish that progress wouldnβt go down
wait im making and adjustment.
good point honestly, no reason to remove it now that it's already up anyway
The marathon has NOthing to do with UESC atM i think ITS mainly the alien race
Even though it's sounding like this isn't gonna happen on a Monday Night, I'm finally home and ready to do my part. Honestly though, I don't think testing is gonna make a difference. It's just a monday night, there's not enough players period.
Yes it's 15 irl minutes
i wonder if maybe this one just has a lot of progress needed BECAUSE of how short the trip is
Most are wanting to cease running
I think if we aren't going to coordinate pushing, we should go to perm in proxy chat and walk as many people as we can through the perm terms, as perimeter is more forgiving, and I feel we'd be more likely to get people to play along there
Okay 3 ish minutes until another test result
@mortal quail give us a sign π π π
I'm down
π
I shout this
bungie needs to increase the rate at which we get progress
Okay so which one first then? Steerage?
No we just need to understand how it works
Remember the name of the game, y'all. I think a lot of us are forgetting it
you running solo?
This is the play, when we don't have the numbers, let's just see if we can figure out what works
Ye i am
I do think we're missing something to help with stabilization
thats what I wanna do g uys we jus need ro agree
Last night there were a lot of streamers online telling their chat to do it and showing them how
majority vote
yesterday was a weekend tho
ill do whatever
It makes a lot of sense that the numbers tonight aren't as high
I meant if the start for each interval lines up with the hour (12:00, 12:15, 12:30, 12:45).
but i do agree we should probably see the rates and wait for the time where our manpower is the highest to get precentages
a lot of people dont play during the week
I really think recruiting en masse through proxy chat can become successful guys, I've converted a few already, if a sizeable number of us do this when we aren't coordinating pushing, we could draw in enough people to make a big difference
this is why I've been saying whatever mobilzation we decide on, we need to try and get the word out AS people are coming home from work during peak player hours
They have a schedule goal. That's why this channel exists - the website/progress bars/terminals were up for like 24 hours before this channel but no one thought the terminals did anything so wasn't trying. So they made this channel to push the numbers haha
That it does. The current interval ends at the top of the hour
On perimiter we got over a 50% increase in one cycle. Unless I read your thing wrong that it would have to be different numbers
π
We don't know which corresponds to which for the camera names atm
So we have to do routes
Testing is still a great idea though
its just guess numbers i dunno the actual limits
i will delete then
for all i know it could be a +100% increase
Alright lets see how much it goes down
ok
Please don't spam polls haha
PLZ Stop flooding chat guys lets be srs for 5 min
And the next interval starts right when the next one ends? Or is there a buffer between each interval?
The camera is at :00 and every +15 the kill counter is at :01 and every +15
canal is the first one if we are going by the A1Z26 number translations
I have no skin in the game or which one you run because I'm just the motivator haha
not only it's monday and not sunday anymore, but also they saw how quick we were for perimeters and probably cranked up the amount needed. It's alright we'll get it
No buffer this is confirmed by null transmitters message
Man no it's not
Hard to tell. Think it takes a minute to receive the transmission? But that could be just visual only. You can check on the cryo site
IF We are going by number translations I would be down to try Canal first
but lkets goo OFF The vote
we are going to test next reset
OOOOOOFFF
IT WENT DOWN 6
Hoooolyyyy
It is right in the API my man
Alright so yeah
Yah i mean its gonna keep going down
WAIT ALL THE WAY TO 15 NVM
Yeah that's a big decrease
HOLY drop
Its doing the thing again where it updates twice
That drop haha
It has to be decay based on recent progress
100%
Does anyone have the phrases from decoding the terminals?
BUNGIE IT'S DOING THE DOUBLE UPDATE AGAIN #PleaseFix
Oh wait im sorry I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying the UESC kill count affects the timer
Cause we dont have enough players guys Please listen - If we do not have Enough players we will not go Tonight - We will test
If it counted down slowly it has to be decay not reseting to zero this is huge
So what I'm getting here is. We likely don't actually do anything unless we get a total amount of players to do 100% in 15 minutes.
Yes but this bug helps us that means they are not reseting to zero and counting up every time because it was counting down
You just gotta run up to the sender terminal and then go to the receiving terminal. Check #1480075402088288506 for the map
Haha no no. Just that the timer lands on :00 and not say :07
Currently there are not enough players to complete any of the cams tonight
So we are testing
Please vote in this poll to try another run method
True.
Yah igwym now, sorry again
This is What we assume so we will be doing testing until we get a schedule and enough players/streamers running it
Any chance the "DEPLOYMORERUNNERS" bit means favoring crews over solos?
are we sure we are doing the right one? what if we got lucky yesterday on the "correct" order
As far as weighting goes?
I hear the thought - it does say "One Voice Trigger One Count"
We are going to test different ones in 12 minutes
Ah, right. That's fair.
So they're telling us it doesn't give boosted numbers in anyway, it's just 1 = 1
okay guys at 1:10 EST we will decide what push we go for can we agree on that?
and then at 1:30EST we will do the other one
and look at the charts
Okay since it's pretty close im just gonna decide for us (the complex canal route is completely cancer not gonna lie)
Anyone hear and solve the weird meow in outpost?
i was im down for something like that
Potentially bingus???
We should test the AI Uplink > West Gate route
you're prob just hearing bingus
i am oKAY with this
Oh that's just the ghost cat. You can find them sometimes
that was me, my bad
they're just around sometimes
Alright sounds good
can anyone drop the map for dire terminals pls? haven't logged in since yesterday
bet
We Will first test AI Uplink and Then transition into cANAL at 1:30 EST
It's Bingus! You can actualy find them, just don't get too close or they'll disappear
i agree
CAN WE agree on this 1 15 min tesT?
NOT THIS CURRENT TIMER, BUT ON NEXT RESET
for each
Damn. First time in Outpost and thought I found the next step to getting to the marathon
Was legit excited
So do we wait a reset between tests rather than back to back?
After watching a terminal reset, we can confirm it is some form of decay not resetting to zero for every 15 minute increment. This is because of a bug with bungieβs api update that caused it to drop in 2 segments. If each time it reset to zero and counted up the bug would have gone up in two increments from zero instead of dropping from the current number towards the result of the 15 minute period.
I think we should but it is getting late lmaoo
You might have? We don't know what bingus is yet
We must fist watch every episode of even Stevenβs in backwards order in order to progress
Oh fair
NOT THIS CURRENT TIMER, BUT ON NEXT RESET, WE ARE RUNNING:
AI UPLINK > WEST GATE.
PLEASE DO AS MANY RUNS OF THIS AS YOU CAN ON THE
NEXT!
TIMER IN 10 MINUTES
Yeah I need sleep im done for tonight in terms of runs ive been doing ts all day 2 days in a row
BUT ITS TRUE we will test AI Uplink take a 15 min break- and then test the other path
Cause it's better to take a break in-between
You're an absolute Legend Vortoyd - you've been doing gods work
When was there a double update?
To make sure we have enough data on the statistics
Just now it bugged out and went down in two seprete decreases
Its nuts that i haven't even really noticed the time, its now ONE AM and i started doing this at the time we started lmao
NOT THIS CURRENT TIMER, BUT ON NEXT RESET, WE ARE RUNNING:
AI UPLINK > WEST GATE.
PLEASE DO AS MANY RUNS OF THIS AS YOU CAN ON THE
NEXT!
TIMER IN 10 MINUTES
WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS
if a break is needed now is def the time to break it, we should really just be testing seeing as we're at the downward slope of player numbers rn
I have screenshots of general location (never found bingus sadly before extract time ran out) but idk if bingus spawns in the same location on outpost
That's what we doing
busted_cranium knows what's up
Well after trying another run, we'll know what the other two cams are connected to
If there was a double update in the API the tracker would have caught it and it will be in the downloadable API snapshot history to look at
number of players isn't really relevant since only a tiny portion is here organizing to do this
I dont think everyone understands how huge this is that we can confirm its decay and not reseting to zero that mean gradual porgress can work and it is not worth setting up on 15 interval to have everyone go
Heard bingus in dorms but couldnβt find
Then why do I get two different numbers if I check it too quickly?
Genuine question

Honestly I kinda assumed it was a decay to begin with
NOT THIS CURRENT TIMER, BUT ON NEXT RESET, WE ARE RUNNING:
AI UPLINK > WEST GATE.
PLEASE DO AS MANY RUNS OF THIS AS YOU CAN ON THE !!!! NEXT !!!!! TIMER IN 7 MINUTES
WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS
whats been happening, you guys have been pushing biostock for hours
Certainly looked like a decay since yesterday
Guys it might be a decay how can we explain the double updates?
does it happen on specific times?
Not enough numbers
Itβs not progressing as much as it should
cause it happened more than once could it be a bug or intentionally I think we need to find that out
Its not on the api thing its just on the cam website It did it yesterday aswell. I was spam refreshing on transmiting screen and saw it go down on the api tracker website in two sepererate jumps. Idk why it does not show on graph they where like 2 seconds apart
Might be this
we've been pushing so hard, i still am curious on the 66% being the highest we pushed it
66 was at 6pm whihc makes sense tbh
I'm not totally sure exactly what you mean -- and I'm not saying Bungie didn't double update. But if they DID it will be in the API tracker history. The tracker actually checks every 30 seconds and saves it anytime one API pull has different stabilization values from another
What is this??
cause 9.5ers
they prob increased runs needed
down to try it
That honestly only further adds credence to my hypothesis that the decrease is based on two criteria
since it got
monday got people pretty excited i find it hard to believe that theres not ad many people
NOT THIS CURRENT TIMER, BUT ON NEXT RESET, WE ARE RUNNING:
AI UPLINK > WEST GATE.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO AS MANY RUNS OF THIS AS YOU CAN ON THE !!!! NEXT !!!!! TIMER IN 5 MINUTES
WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS
100%'ed
There might be some kind of condition we can fulfill to increase the rate
pretty qick on all of m
Wdym?
This is what Iβm afraid of
It was happening a lot yesterday where I'd refresh for numbers and /api/stabilisation was different number, so I sent it in chat. and then chat sent a different number and I refreshed and /api/stabilisation was another number again
Maybe the terminals have a specific order that they need to be fulfilled
Not during the climb though, so I suspect it's only during lower numbers
Might Make sense tho tbh if its harder for each map?
Like what is this working towards?? Iβm out of the loop it seems.
Unlocking the fourth map
We are currently doign testing
we arent pushing to stabilize
You can read more about it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mtUtDPvbh6ahiynYFVS7Z4O79Nw6y5PEOjweCpzWV_A/edit?tab=t.0 π
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Cryo archive on the marathon
cryo archive map unlock
I hate arbitrary number changes it ruined season of the worthy
It will prob be usefull later or thats a section of cryoarchive that is being kept a secret on release with the ladder being my best guess
Man what we aren't running this set lol
Oh shoot
Lmaoo
lmfao
West Gate:
this is what im guessing, maybe it'll have something like Control with something happening in the background
AI Uplink:
is anyone not gonna run the next map? if so Can we get u looking at the stats of the drop
NOT THIS CURRENT TIMER, BUT ON NEXT RESET, WE ARE RUNNING:
AI UPLINK > WEST GATE.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO AS MANY RUNS OF THIS AS YOU CAN ON THE !!!! NEXT !!!!! TIMER IN 3 MINUTES
WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS
I got my coffee and read the doc. I'm ready for some testing, I'm gonna do runs all night.
My last Questions what dictates that it is terminal 1- Or Terminal 2 etc
WWas that put in doc at random?
Thereβs a doc?
Like what is the start and end? Or like the numbers like AIUplink is a part of set 1
I just did all dire marsh terminals, are the perimeter terminals still up even though we stabilized the cameras?
Could I have a link?
yes exactly
why is this set 1
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People are camping the shit out of Algae, anyways.
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Thx
It was just arbitrarily decided iirc
This is the official API or my tracker? I can't think of a reason why you'd see different numbers from official though there could always be a bug with spammed refresh. I'll take a look if so. I can also speed up the refresh rate a bit when it hits 0:00 for a bit
when r they not in dire marsh
Heros have arrived lol
TWO MINUTES RUNNERS TILL TEST BEGINS RUNNERS.
DIRE MARSH CURRENT TEST: TERMINAL RUN 1 - WEST GATE -> AI UPLINK
map: https://crowdtypical.github.io/Marathon-arg/terminal_maps.html#dire-marsh
NOT THIS CURRENT TIMER, BUT ON NEXT RESET, WE ARE RUNNING:
AI UPLINK > WEST GATE.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO AS MANY RUNS OF THIS AS YOU CAN ON THE !!!! NEXT !!!!! TIMER IN 2 MINUTES
WE ARE TESTING PROGRESS FOR OTHER CAMERAS
There was a dude camping specifically the terminal.
They'll always camp the current community search spot as its easy kills for them, they consider it a strategy lol
Virgins lmao
Happened to me MULTIPLE times
Thats why u dont even bring a free kit give them nothing not even meds
(I have been out of town all day so I haven't had a lot of time to check in)
This is from the refreshing after "Recieving Transmission" countdown: https://cryoarchive.systems/api/public/cctv-cameras/stabilization
Okay guys reset is in 1 minutes ima launch the map soon
Will say it another time just to make sure it's seen. My belief is that there are TWO factors at play for progress decay:
- If the minimum threshold was reached (based on a certain x% progress)
- Percent difference between the prior interval's pair completions and the latest
Alright i got a theory. so we know that terminal's can be decoded and one says "with pain and fury" another "strike the stone" and last one " until its secret breaks." Im not sure which terminal is which, but maybe we have to do them in order so it'll be "with pain and fury strike the stone until its secret breaks."
1 MINUTE TILL TEST BEGINS TERMINALTOUCHERS/STROKERS
Damn, I see we lost like, all the progress on Algae pool cam
I'lll note the message
matchmaking now
ye we are testing and dropped it
terminal strokers is wild
we were testing how it decays
They didn't want touchers anymore
What's the results?
So I made it worse
I actually like the idea that the increase is based on how many more completions there were than last time. It would make sense. If only there was some way to test it
LMAOO
