🛠️buildcrafting

[umbral briar]

[jovial anchor]

2nd

[lyric cargo]

gloopnd

[stoic flame]

4th

[summer fractal]

hello

[umbral briar]

Everyone stack on them pink cat reactions

I want 20 🔥

[rustic notch]

[stoic flame]

Alas, we have a new channel.

[rocky rain]

[dapper patio]

[charred basin]

im here to represent thief mains

[pseudo crest]

we here at sekgen are working on worm enlargment pills

[median urchin]

First we build
Then we craft

Lets, MINECRAFT

[umbral briar]

[lusty fossil]

[rocky rain]

[eager summit]

[daring dawn]

BOB the builder

[long flame]

mindmap
root((Marathon Day 1 Grind))
Cyber Acme
Expansion
[🔋 Unstable Diodes]
[🔩 Unstable Gunmetal]
Heat Sink
[🧫 Unstable Biomass]
[🧱 Unstable Lead]
Cooling Upgrades
[🧪 Unstable Gel]
New Calor
Recovery & Defense
[💊 Dermac/Neuro Packs]
[☢️ Hazard Capsules]
[🌱 Terax Seeds / Spark Leaves]
[🩹 Bio Stripping]
Maida
Flex Matrix
[🧱 Unstable Lead]
[📷 Lenses]
[⚗️ Dynamic Compounds]
Full Throttle
[🛸 Alien Alloy]
[⚙️ Ballistic Turbines]
Arachnne
Myips Shotgun
[🍯 Drone Resin]
[🧪 Unstable Gel]

[umbral briar]

What the fuck is Maida and New Calor 😭 🥀

[zenith elm]

ohhh i'm crafting

[umbral briar]

Bro got marathon sponsors from temu

[zenith elm]

i'm gonna craft!!

[daring dawn]

el calor nueve

[zenith elm]

no slowmode feels so nice

[coarse dagger]

NEW CHAT BABY

[verbal jasper]

Im here with you

[short oracle]

[vocal fog]

Henlo frens remember to skin your enemies for
Have fun

[chilly phoenix]

[fallow zinc]

[neon chasm]

[remote wharf]

[blazing nova]

[plucky osprey]

[tight dagger]

Mmmh, it appears we have infinite freekits after all

[lime roost]

who melee maxing witrh me?

[fallow zinc]

We always be melee maxing

[fervent forge]

[frigid eagle]

thanks yoda

[solid trellis]

[umbral briar]

Hmm, dunno if I like that tbh

[zenith elm]

yeah me neither, i have no incentive to risk any loot to do my contracts

i can just throw freekit after freekit at my problems until they're gone

[cobalt locust]

And the free kits don't really have downsides. In Arc the free kits come with very limited ammo and heals (which are hard to find) and don't have a safe slot. None of that here.

[umbral briar]

Yup

A well thought out feedback suggestion post might be good for this, if anyone wants to compile their thoughts on it

[zenith elm]

well these also have very limited ammo and heals

[umbral briar]

True yeah, the main problem is the lack of threat of losing good vault loot

[zenith elm]

it's enough to get by, which almost feels like too much

[cobalt locust]

With the free ammo box and AI regularly dropping ammo, I never felt I had ammo trouble. And the white heal and shield kits are so common, if you actually bother to loot you should be fine for anything short of high intensity pvp

[undone hedge]

free sponsor kits feel like they're good for 1-2 UESC encounters, but not enough for an encounter against another runner, which I think is a perfect sweet spot

[fallow zinc]

I could see them probably adding a stash value cap to bringing the free sponsored kits. And I doubt they'll let you take them into cryo vault once that launches

[tight dagger]

Exactly ! Been going on free kits only to do them

[tight dagger]

Nah they’re fine against other people

[frigid eagle]

id hope cryo vault has a key requirement like dmz

where you need to find a keycard to even queue for the map

[slender rock]

Melee maxxing is the best strat

[slender rock]

Same 😎 it's been fun running around haha

[rustic condor]

I love going around knifing ppl

[gentle heath]

I killed so many people when I run out of ammo just charging them with a knife XD

[mild viper]

Have we seen any purple or gold cores yet?

and gold shield has the same shield as purple but with an ability right?

[limber vortex]

knives are great had a funny encounter later today where i slashed a dude right as he shot me and we both went down

[slender rock]

oh no way XD

[limber vortex]

Knives tend to tear through shields faster than guns too so, getting close is actually a good play in this.

[slender rock]

i feel like I get headshot when I try a lot of the time XD

[rustic notch]

does "ounce of prevention" core work solo?

[limber vortex]

Yeah the skill gap is brutal you gotta be good at aiming because you can kinda laser onto heads in this game.

[slender rock]

can u headshot with knives btw? or just heavy and light attack? I wasnt sure if stabbing someone when they arent looking did more dmg or not as well

[fallow zinc]

I don't believe so

I think it's just the two melee upgrades from Arachne

[limber vortex]

^

[clear osprey]

was there a website that lets you buildcraft

i feel like i saw someone talk about it in some video but i cant find it anymore

[fallow zinc]

There is but it's not super relevant right now until they add shell customizaton later on

It's just like, "Take these weapons and items!"

[clear osprey]

i see

[mild viper]

What’s the implants you guys have been running so far?

[mild viper]

There is runnervault.io but idk how well made the build crafting is in there

I do know you can see every item

With a description

[mild viper]

There are cores for assassin that deal more damage with backstabs/invis melee attacks

[clear osprey]

does the crowd control implant effect give a permanent melee damage buff? it doesnt say anything about duration or "until downed"

i really hope they add a training ground / shooting range

[robust urchin]

Anyone find a Misriah 2442 shotty yet?

[eager compass]

the pump?

[robust urchin]

yeah

[acoustic oak]

Seems like a few weapons are considerably rarer than others

Maybe not rarer, but later game access

[robust urchin]

feck

[acoustic oak]

I hit level 15 in the server slam, only then did I get one of the rail guns and the V66 lookout

[stable quarry]

misriah in outpost i think

[zenith elm]

we should all migrate to this chat

no slowmode + hidden by default by discord so not too many people

[royal hornet]

in my 7 hours of play i have not come across a shotgun via looting or drops in perimeter or dire marsh

[acoustic oak]

I found the uhhh, double barrel sawed off once in a match I think?

Maybe it was from a dead runner?

[royal hornet]

might be, so far I've only seen it in Arachne's shop

awesome pfp btw

[hot wharf]

i feel like people don’t know how to use this chat.

talk about about cores, implants and their random rolls and overall build synergies between mods, cores and implant effects

treat it like a looter shooter

[spark socket]

most people won't have the vault/(or even knowledge of perks) yet to really build as of right now i think

i do want to advice people to grab materialist items, it very useful haha

[zenith elm]

there's not much buildcrafting happening just yet

[hot wharf]

ik im just saying for those who didn’t know

[minor folio]

I feel like everyone is just selling all the loot and not really bothering to learn what is useful. Vault space feels precious.

[vast fjord]

Do the Arachne intro mission, they give you one.

[urban moss]

yeah, and i died with it to a sniper

it was doing rounds tho, it dropped with a blue chip mid to drop ammo when doing considerable damage, one run i was walking around with 75 mips rounds

[slender rock]

OOOOO, OKAY OKAY. SIGN ME UP 🩵🩵

[stoic flame]

I’m pretty stoked about there being a channel dedicated to discussing cores, implants, mods, and how different combinations of them can subtly or drastically alter one’s playstyle.

I have a question about implants right now, actually.

Do implants that share the same name and rarity have the same stat buffs and/or debuffs and is the other effect randomized?

For example, Nimble Fingers V1. I have two in my vault right now and they both buff Loot Speed. They have different effects though. One has Dr. Killjoy and the other has Haptic Feedback.

[copper hawk]

I love the Repeater with reload on kill mods.

I had a setup where crit oil reloaded the gun, hacked nearby enemies, then created flachettes to hunt other down

[humble canopy]

Anyone have any good recs for Destroyer?

[bronze ravine]

I was about to ask that lol. His two cores called like Bombing Run and Bombardier are really good

I think we’re supposed to use LMGs cause of the high mag size to get the most out of Search and Destroy, but they feel a little slow and clunky to me. I wanna find an AR that has a high mag size.

[humble canopy]

I've honestly been running the bully smg for him and it works out real good. But I agree he's definitely made for Either LMG or SMG primary and a westar double as the second.

Though I honestly find myself using his payload for bot swarms and bosses then actual pvp fights, just because it feels inconsistent sometimes. I also really wish we could fire pistols from behind sheild tbf.

I feel like if they added a super high rof lmg with horrible hip fire accuracy it'd be perfect for him

[quaint jay]

Honestly, if you're gonna be fighting lots of UESC you're going to really enjoy a V66 lookout with the chip that gives ammo back when killing an enemy, blue is good enough. You can legit fight them forever so it's good for taking out stuff like the Wardens and commanders without straining your resources too much.

[humble canopy]

I'll absolutely give that a try

[quaint jay]

Gotta pay your attention to your ammo and consider recruits ammo piñatas

Well, battery level but yeah

[quaint jay]

Shotgun really is a must if you want to close the distance quickly and capitalize on it.

[quaint jay]

LMG with shield really is a must you have it, helps your staying power.

Depends on how you're playing things. Rockets can be good at range.

Ive been trying to play aggressive with Destroyer but I just simply don't have the game sense yet of when it's best to push the advantage

[bronze ravine]

I was going against some more challenging UESC and I had the volley burst and popped S&D, 2/3 burst is all it took to send a rocket and the rocket usually just finished the bot off. The volley actually felt really good, couple burst and move onto the next bot while the rocket goes and kills it.

[bronze ravine]

Had a pvp fight where I super sprinted all the way around a building to flank and it felt very nice, Destroyer is so fun.

[quaint jay]

Boost with shotgun is mean, especially since you can go directly into it from shield. There's an argument to be made for melee with it with the core that boosts melee damage immediately after a boost(I surprised an assassin yesterday in his smoke with it). But yeah, agility and Heat are top stats for destroyer. Though Heat and tac energy could be worth as well.

If you're pushing forward with it up

[terse forge]

what are you guys usually building for Vandal? I always aim for agility, heat capacity and fall resistance for implants, but I still haven't found my personal pref of guns for instance

[distant lagoon]

That is my understanding, yes.

The Rarity + Name determines the stat array, and then an additional effect is added separately

[quaint jay]

The implant ability that makes your slide take no heat if you do it in water is particularly powerful with Vandal

[shadow jolt]

Yo does anyone know if anybody sells drum mag?

[frail phoenix]

traxus might offer it as a barter sometimes

[limber vortex]

Don't sleep on sponsored kits, they can help you bounce back if you lose your shit.

[drifting urchin]

does that work in rain?

[quaint jay]

I think it needs to be lakes and puddles.

[flat brook]

does the v11 punch actually have 600 rpm?

[old nymph]

THE IMPLANT THAT MAKES YOU GO INVIS WHILE USING DRONE IS SO FUCKING GOATED LOL BEST SHEMA IVE FOUND LOL

[crystal pewter]

Do cores of the same type stack? Is there any added benefit?

[pseudo ferry]

I got a gold shield, im confused what it does

it has 2 reinforced shield slots, is that basicall 4 slots with faster healing?

[wooden holly]

Any body noticed that when you get the upgrade to buy your shell specific core in the armoury from sekagutchi there’s only one type of shell core available at a time? Like you don’t have access to both types that are shown in the faction upgrade menu

[quaint jay]

yes

[acoustic oak]

What the hell is this grey weapon mod that makes a distracting bird call when aiming down sights??

Seems a little sus, why would this be a chip mod...

[quaint jay]

Oh

Don't worry, it also comes in blue and purple I believe

[edgy cliff]

Trash

[dusty osprey]

Meta asf

[idle trellis]

I hope the wstr comes with birdshot, that way I can do some hunting

[white valley]

Does anyone know what the actual values correspond to on the upgrades? For example, is +20 prime reduction/heal speed a reduction of 20%? 20 seconds? Or something else?

[meager remnant]

I think it applies to efficiency

[fallow zinc]

20 freedom units
-# afaik no one has gone in and thoroughly tested how much each upgrade does, and it's a bit more annoying to do without a practice range

[meager remnant]

For example, the recovery rate of 10 is less effective than if there were 40

[prime forge]

It 20 to the stat itsself. Check the CyAc upgrades for heat, when its % they use actual "+20% heat reduction rate" for the stat

[slim phoenix]

That's my fav one

[distant steppe]

What is the max level in a season?

[unique tangle]

100 probably

[cinder nimbus]

Anyone know if the is a Marathon equivalent of DIM for Destiny?

[distant steppe]

Oof

I feel like this is even more repetitive than OG destiny

And one contract at a time seem like a way to pad it out

[unique tangle]

nuh uh

broski i am already lvl 12
and doing contracts in my knowlage doesnt lvl u upp
after some events, upgrading ect u will be there in no time
also there is rewards for reaching 100 - gold equipment and title

[stoic flame]

Lol, same with Torch Bug. What’s the point of a hostile exploding if I already eliminated them? I can only think of it being like a grenade that’ll hit nearby enemies as the only reason for its existence.

Good morning, Runners.

[unique tangle]

it is good for uesc
i think u can lowki mess with their ai and lure them all in one spot
something like stacking piglins in bastion on minecraft speedrubn

also it is common they rush u i group

[stoic flame]

What’s the name of the implant? Is it for the head, torso, or legs?

[unique tangle]

probavbly thief and probably its a core lol

[stoic flame]

Oh, it’s likely a core for thief and not an implant?

[unique tangle]

did u see an implant that affects abilities?

[stoic flame]

I see, I see.

[unique tangle]

energy harvesting Vx doesnt count

[stoic flame]

All implants buff (or debuff) specific stats, and they all have an extra effect. I’m not for certain I’ve came across all of the effects that’s out there hence why I asked out of pure curiosity. It makes more sense that it’s a core rather than an implant, but I still wanted to ask.

[burnt nacelle]

Best early game gun build? What attachments should I need grabbing

[mental void]

Green shield with take half dmg. Does that mean 120 extra hp with % half dmg? So technically 240 extra hp?

[distant steppe]

What the heck are biostrip salvage and where do I find it?

[solemn salmon]

Find insurrection (increased dmg against uesc) or bounty hunter (gain credits on uesc elims) and place it on the v11 punch pistol. Keep a look out for the suppresion dampener to put on it as well and you can breeze through PvE, while still being an okay but not amazing gun against players

[lofty helm]

If you guys like thief, and more specifically using your drone for recon. I would seriously recommend trying to get the Hideout and Partner in Crime cores. Hideout lets you be invis while piloting the drone and partner in crime lets the drone send out recon style pulses when you aren’t piloting it. It gives great recon and stealth options. I’ve personally used hideout on multiple solo extractions to sit in the extraction while invis to avoid being camped out

[winter silo]

what are great ways to get those two ?

[hot wharf]

very shell dependent

[lofty helm]

So far I’ve mainly found them in runs. I’m like 99% sure one of the factions has an armory upgrade that lets you purchase shell specific cores but I’ll have to check again later to make sure

[nocturne rune]

Seqgen has armory stuff at rank 3 and I believe rank 12

For the specific shells

Does anyone know some good builds that work with Triage? I'm guessing volt weapons because of his battery overcharge.

[ornate flume]

A disassemble feature would be AMAZING in the vault/in game inventory would be sick. that way you can grab attachments off of a gun you don’t want to have taking up inventory space quickly

[lapis merlin]

Just pick them off the gun 🔫

[supple oxide]

anyone know how much exact dmg does vandal charged blast do ?

[old sentinel]

Going to gun menu and then slowly holding F for each part is just ...

[burnt nacelle]

For destroyer

[hot wharf]

lots of agility and heat capacity. still testing what cores are actually good on him but Bombardier seems strong

[unique tangle]

above 100

[shut crypt]

It's nutso especially with the core damage upgrade

I'm a D1 vandal simp tho so take my words with a pinch of salt

[lapis light]

Cheap Perimeter loadout:
Overrun AR or V11 Punch
8X Green Backpack
Grey Cores (Anything works, Based on personal preference)
2 Stacks of ammo
3 Patch Kit, 3 Shield kits
(You can basically grab this whole thing at Hauler)

Implants are optional

[unique tangle]

it has damage upgrad core???? what is the name ???

[unique tangle]

BIG MEH lodout

[lapis light]

That's the idea

It works for me so I'd figure I'd drop it here, it's gotten me a ton of credits

It's also extremely simple and cheap, so if you die you don't lose much

[tribal marten]

v11 punch is just always good

[lapis light]

Yeah the DPS is really good, killed a runner in about 5 shots

[unique tangle]

nah it is better to take
bully smg + insurection mod form traxsus shop + any mag mod would be very apriciated + if u fealing generous put on suppresor
if u have any mods for overrun maybe it will work too
vanilla one i wouldnt take even for free😂
imo in category of weapons without any mods bully smg is easily best and most versitile in the game, the ones i listed above are worth it but not nessecary and make weapon even better by significant marign

3-5 stacks of ammo
6-9 meds + 6-9 shields
green bag preferably med one
maybe smoke granade to drop uesc agro if needed
if fealing generous green shield

optional
+any energy or light ammo weapon prefelably long distane one because uesc drops a lot of those muniton types
implants if you have any usefull ( usefull ones: regen, survival kit, energy harvesting,something capacitor , distance runner, gracefull landing and strike kit but it dependes

[unique tangle]

insurection mod + any mag + suppresor (in order of importance)

[wheat depot]

assassin using magnum w/ suppressor, 1 tap recruits and make no noise ;)

[unique tangle]

does that alert other uesc if u 1 tap??
do u get agro from rest of usec?

[lapis light]

Nice loadout

[wheat depot]

it depends, if you are close enough it does, and sometimes it seems like they tell each other, but if you shoot the "group" of 1-2 that are nearby it wont alert the rest of the poi

[unique tangle]

yeah i would like to own it 😂 😂

does anyone have any knowlage on how to obtain a large amount of shields and med packs for cheap??????????????

[lost quarry]

Oh this would be where to ask.

Do shell cores stack?
From what I’ve read during my closed testing, they do stack or some stack?

Like it would be better to run two blue of a really strong core instead of one good blue and an ok green?

[burnt nacelle]

Remind me what insurrection does again

[unique tangle]

just read in the shop broski

[burnt nacelle]

I’m not home right now sorry

[unique tangle]

OH
it increases dmg to uesc, dmg depends on rarity wish u fast going back to home and fun gameplay✌️

[lost quarry]

Is it significant? Like green/blue is worth?

I just bring more ammo in and run the chip mod that increase accuracy while moving

[unique tangle]

i wish i would own better than grey
idk didnt test better ones but sounds good on paper

[burnt nacelle]

thank you :) and I'll be home in like 20 minutes I just had to run out to grab some water for the house

[lost quarry]

The blue/purple are nasty

I usually mob lobby’s with my squad and am on like a major win streak 20+

[unique tangle]

grinding to get blue one avaliable in the shop 👀

[lost quarry]

Nice nice. Just out one on the heavy AR

Looking forward to testing it tomorrow. Hopefully it’ll feel and be better than the bully smg

I loved the bully in the slam, but now that I found two copper heads and have 80+ rounds in a mag, I haven’t used heavy ammo in awhile

[unique tangle]

BRO THE STATS OF THAT THING ARE UNBELIVABLE

[fossil musk]

is there any sort of redemtion of the ovverrun ar?

i feel like no matter what i put on the thing its just always ass

[warm stratus]

Yeah dawg https://tauceti.gg/

[ember sphinx]

worst gun in the game, mag dump people and they can still be alive

[unique tangle]

leave it alone, it is just ass or we suck at using it😂

[fossil musk]

also why are LMGs so cheap compared to something like a M77?

[hybrid geode]

bulky

Also way lower damage for the same ammo 16 for the retaliator and the other light lmg is a ramp up style weapon so kinda shit against anything else than UESC

the other uses Heavy ammo

[fossil musk]

speaking of heavy ammo hows the H-AR?

i really want to use it but i havent found one yet

[hybrid geode]

Haven't got a single H-AR yet

[cinder nimbus]

Nice! Thank you.

[mighty mauve]

No, it prfeforms the same as regular green shield but heals faster as it only has one charge.

[hybrid geode]

What does the small neon green logo means?
https://imgur.com/a/BLWxn41

[jovial galleon]

the eye? It means you added it to your tracking list

[hybrid geode]

oh lmao

guess I did it on mistake thanks

[little veldt]

Do the Cores stack? if I have 2 identical cores installed will they both apply?

[coarse turret]

Is there a chart anywhere with the listed average ttk of weapons? Running into this issue where like

I get the first shot against people 90% of the time, almost all to the head

And then they turn around and 1-2 tap me instantantly

So I assume im just picking like, the wrong weapons lol

[flint haven]

https://marathonmeta.gg/weapons

[coarse turret]

So what im hearing is... volt is mid

Time to play destroyer iggg

[flint haven]

Check the link it compares all weapons and their current stats.

[snow orchid]

Hello do two of the same core passive stack

[queen warren]

Whats the professional opinion on best shell?

[unique tangle]

hot take destroyer

[old wedge]

u can get into pinwheel without doing the keys with thief

[lost quarry]

If you are referring to the red gate at the back you can do that with any shell.

I assume she highlights the boxes to break?

[queen warren]

what's that mean?

ah i see

[little mesa]

phantom and its not even close S tier shell

[old wedge]

naw theres a vent outside u can grapple into

[queen warren]

got a video?

[lost quarry]

Cool, what side

[old wedge]

should be dormitories

near a staircase by a tall fence and planters

[lost quarry]

I’ll let my friend know, he mains thief and shotguns

[old wedge]

u can run in there grab the loot and dip back out kinda nice if u spawn near dormitories

[lost quarry]

Have you seen the grapple drone tech?

Run a team full of thieves two of them ride the drone across map to the vent slurp up all the loot and duo fight bots to clear faster.

The third just plays their life and makes their way on foot

I’m liking this already. I’m gonna try this tomorrow

[shut orbit]

Im curious. Do yall usually run weapons with different ammo types? is there a benefit to using the same ammo type on two weapons?

[light herald]

No benefit. Running the same ammo type on both weapons limits you.

You compete for the same ammo pool and burn through it faster. Using different ammo types gives you flexibility and keeps you fighting when one weapon runs dry.

However, some combos naturally share ammo—for example a Longshot and WSTR both use MIPS—so in those cases you just manage the same pool.

[distant steppe]

Best methods for levelling up seasonal XP?

And are the best weapons in the armoury to purchase or are the ones you find on maps better?

[little mesa]

the found only guns are way better than shop bought ones

[distant steppe]

Makes sense

Are they found in the same places or random?

[west flower]

absolutely zased using two Bully smgs so you just hose down people while they wonder why you have a 70 round mag

unironically ive seen people use shotty and sniper just to oneshot people

[hearty coral]

Does anyone know why sometimes I'll use my drone and then immediately get it back?

for thief btw, totally forgot to add context 💀 💀

[tardy ginkgo]

A good PvP loadout should be(In my opinion)

1. WSTR DB
2. Bully SMG(Any mid-long or long range gun)
3. 6x Patch and Shield kits
4. Assasian
5. Profit

[little veldt]

Do the buffs from the core mods stack ?

like if I equip 2 identical mods will it double? double but with deminishing returns or?

[tardy ginkgo]

Dono try to not hold the exit button or report to devs w/ vid clip

[cold tartan]

do two of the same core stack?

[drowsy tide]

Bro bully is my goto gun but I'm having trouble deciding on what to run it with like I feel it's okay with the shotty on outpost but on dire March and perimeter I feel like I need a semi auto but idk which one to try

[mental void]

Bully been really god to lazer head shots

[mental void]

What comps you guys see the most of shells?

[vernal salmon]

Speaking of stacking, does double res even stack? I notice no change in speed of res whether one or two players do it

[acoustic oak]

V66 Lookout or the Stryder if you have it

But realistically they're all pretty good, just use whatever you feel comfortable with

[ruby shoal]

I've seen a lot of volley rifle use on marsh. Hell knows I've been domed by it enough times

[acoustic oak]

2.5k sponsored kit for the volley rifle is a pretty good deal

Volley + V11 Punch

[hot wharf]

guys post items you found

[clear nacelle]

Did anyone find that vandal meteor core yet? How much damage is it doing

Or implant

[proper fog]

Is agi bonus capped? I was able to get 180 but barely any difference over 100

[distant steppe]

Who sells it?

[drowsy tide]

mida Free kits i think Mida

i have mida sponsored kits i keep like 5 in my vault jus incase it resets

lol

[distant steppe]

Ok cool thanks!

[cloud shore]

Does the V22 gold mod just remove the overheat function? Seen the Needler comparison and wondering how it works there

[vernal briar]

V11 Punch is so goated, like my goodness

[lapis light]

V11 and Bully SMG is a wild combo

Don't discount the Overrun AR

[ancient raven]

where do you get that duelist shield attachment

[gleaming fern]

tool carts

[misty dock]

anyone know where to find medical cabinets? or are they a random spawn?

[pastel veldt]

we cant post screenshots here wow

[twin urchin]

[formal kelp]

Has anyone broken down the actual effects of stats anywhere? Like what is the difference in your prime ability cooldown at baseline prime ability cooldown stat vs max that kind of thing?

[hearty coral]

I doubt it ngl

if I were you, stalk the marathon reddit and just wait for someone to make some big comprehensive post on stats

[wraith quail]

I know there's some in those small standalone buildings on the outskirts of the north/south relay on Perimeter

[wraith quail]

yes

[dusky hamlet]

why does combining a sprint kit v2 and a green shield drop my heat cap to 0

[gilded snow]

what guns are good if i have bad aim?

[hot wharf]

what does it do?

[lapis light]

The basic light LMG is good, If you want something that requires a little more accuracy, V11 Punch.

[shut orbit]

is there any viablilty to bringing a pistol when you have other options?

[lapis light]

Yeah, the V11 Punch is one of the best guns in the game, affordable, powerful, and doesn't take up a ton of space!

The basic light ammo pistol I'm not certain on, but I believe it is pretty good

[burnt nacelle]

bring a V11 punch and its amazing

[lapis light]

Magnum is also solid

[shut orbit]

i cant tell if this is a fucking joke 💀 🙏

[lapis light]

It's not

V11 Smokes everything

[shut orbit]

im still confused 😭

explain

[lapis light]

V11 Punch has extremely high DPS, I took down a runner in 4 shots

You can even fire charge shots and those deal even more damage

It's also only 4 squares of inventory space, and super easy to find

[lean dagger]

is the desc for it bugged? it say 600rpm

it clearly does not fire at 600rpm

[lapis light]

The V11?

It's semi auto so it's dependent on how fast you can hit the button I guess

[lean dagger]

clicking as fast as i can there seems to be a hard limit

[lapis light]

Hmm ... Odd

Yeah that might be an issue or just typo

[long shard]

do the stat upgrades from factions take effect when you buy them or when their maxed out, the stat itself isnt changing in the menu (sguchi for example adding +30 tactical recovery (totaling 35), but after buying the first rank my stat is still 5

[lean dagger]

found the issue, V75 scar states 120rpm when it's closer to 600. I think v11 punch is closer to 120rpm. I think they flipped it by accident

[dense meteor]

Anyone else feel the magnum isn’t that strong against players?

Like it says 60 damage a shot

And most people are still running greens so it’s

• 160 hp basically
• so 3 shots should down someone
• I’ve shot someone 4 times and not downed them

[twin estuary]

The magnum either dunks or feels like a pee shooter, it's weird and it feels inconsistent.

I prefer the Punch 100%

Ive started running a punch on all of my kits full stop.

[dense meteor]

I lowkey just grab Retaliator

Like it gets the job done for runners or bots

[vestal idol]

magnums my favorite pistol/sidearm
you can absolutely slime someone out if you can get luckly with your aim

[twin estuary]

If you hover over the stat it tells you where the numbers are coming from. The faction stat upgrades increase your base, so you wont see a green line

[dense meteor]

Worst comes to worst since I play destroyer I just rocket jump and stab people

[twin estuary]

Is that the arachne LMG?

[dense meteor]

Yeah

[twin estuary]

That thing tears thru everything yeah

[dense meteor]

It kills most bots in 5-6 bullets and the big ones take like 30

I like it since for destroyer missile pack you can proc missiles easy

[twin estuary]

I wish the overrun had less upward kick, and maybe lower rpm

Everything else about it is great

[dense meteor]

That’s the thing on one hand destroyer is clearly the breacher with shotgun in hand

On the other you need to hit bullets fast and lmgs and sub machines do that

Brrrt and Bully do wonders for me

Bully especially is just great

[drowsy tide]

Bully is my goat I'm jus still tryna feel out a secondary if I should even run one

Do signal jammers block thermals do we know? Cause I play a lot of triage and love popping buffs for my squad

[lofty helm]

More thief tips, if you enjoy the x ray visor in combat, Keen eye and case the joint cores will extend the duration and give it longer range for gun fights

[lofty helm]

It does!

[drowsy tide]

TY!!

[lofty helm]

No problem!

[fallow zinc]

Usually either me or the other person is dead before it comes into effect haha

[lofty helm]

It blocks thermals and it blocks uesc from seeing you unless you attack first

[lofty helm]

Same honestly 😭. Unless I get the drop on them and even then I don’t like risking them seeing me first

[fallow zinc]

And then they're standing still for that sweet repeater headshot that I have a 82% chance of hitting, and it becomes a whole big deal

[drowsy tide]

Appreciate you

[lime roost]

ey can anyone help me

when you go past 100 on a stat does it actually do anything? Like is 110 melee damage more than 100?

i have multiple times

think the highest ive hit is 130

but i could definitely hit 200 with the right build

if not higher

Quality of Life features in marathon?

unthinkable

[shut orbit]

Could you all comment and react on the post I made?
Thank you in advance. 🙏 👍
#1480334339962179614 message

[lime roost]

no nerd

[shut orbit]

:(

[lime roost]

love you

[shut orbit]

im getting mixed signals here

[lime roost]

your idea = bad
you personally = chill

i need other people to stay poor so i can get richer

[quick vault]

I noticed a lot of people are reading the implants incorrectly. When you hover over an implant in your vault its not showing just the stats it gives you. Its showing a comparison of what will happen if you install that implant over the one in the current slot. The negative modifiers showing are just saying that you'll lose that benefit when you swap implants. Its not saying the new implant will weaken that stat.

No implants lower any stats you have.

[lapis light]

What are some good items to bring along as a Triage main?

[tepid oyster]

signal jammer

give each teammate a bot and use one

[foggy berry]

What is meta loadouts right now

[acoustic oak]

anything thermal

[fallen jackal]

yes

[lime roost]

im 90% ive had no core on and have seen one that lowers stats

gotta check

may be stupid

[night snow]

Can I kill with knife only with only 2 attacks ppl with blue/purple shields? (Lvl1 perks on melee dmg)

[drowsy tide]

Perks are the same right jus the level of the stats on the implant?

[gray wraith]

Unlimited free Arachnes sponsored kits are goated.

[lime roost]

no, unless you get a few augments

[tepid oyster]

does 3 melee hits kill a green shielded runner?

[night snow]

just 2 with lvl1 perks for melee dmg- at least what i did a few times

[lime roost]

should only take 2

unsure if you can actually 1 shot with melee

i feel like it hard blocks me

[lunar pagoda]

is there any way to get vandal's Tag! core reliably, or any of the green cores that arent in sekiguchi upgrades? id be spending all my money on that core every run if i could

[edgy zinc]

does agility above 100 still work ?

[sonic laurel]

Lockboxes would be my first guess, those things can sometimes contain 5 cores in 1 box

Otherwise there might be some cabinets or storages that have 1 core in them

[lunar pagoda]

ty, i figured it's just looting luck lol. ill start hordeing eventually

[snow loom]

There are also core containers in ai unlink and other POIs, they look like square containers attached to walls. This won't garuntee your shells specific core but it's a way to farm some.

[ruby hull]

Can we get some sleep for coding tmrw you have a lot to do to keep this game from dying

[lunar pagoda]

ty for the tip, ill keep my eyes peeled. and ty for working on an awesome game 👍

[ruby hull]

Nettle be deadass

[misty dust]

I hate rook players

Already

like dude, what’s your problem? Who hurt you?

[snow orchid]

is matchmaking level or kit strength based

[cunning flint]

Can he help me?

[lament moon]

has anyone made a "tour" video of all the locations on the maps? or maybe a 3D map?

[lament moon]

i think it's backpack + shield + quality of guns based. highest rarity is the quality of server you get. i'm only basing this on the fact that when i load in with purple guns i get smoked instantly in pvp

so i've been intentionally removing mods from any "good" guns to not get into high level lobbies lol

[lapis light]

I'm not so sure, I've loaded in with free loadouts into squads with 3,000 loadouts

[lyric marlin]

same, or people with even higher loadouts are just instant smacked

[gray wraith]

Has anyone seen the Torch Bug mod in anything higher than common rarity?

[urban quail]

There's also one on the lower exterior of Station in perimeter, I'm pretty sure. Assuming they spawn in the same place which might not be true. Kind of looks like a first aid station from a distance

[hot wharf]

yea but diminishing returns

[hot wharf]

purple

also.Boutique theif core is so strong

[hot wharf]

still build crafting and finding new items to synergize

[gray wraith]

Bully with the deluxe drum mag mod is stupid, 56 in the mag. I was taking 300 rounds of heavy into runs.

[tepid oyster]

where do you get the mag mods I cant find any for the guns I have

[queen laurel]

Hauler

[tepid oyster]

o god ok

[summer basin]

i cant find anything by searching online what exactly does the hack debuff do, like with thief ability

[signal wagon]

as far as i can tell from getting hit by one of those tripwires that are sometimes at POIs from UESC is that one the "hack" is complete your ability cooldowns are paused and wont resume until the hack clears by itself or a OS Debug is used. it had a 2:30 timer on me once the hack completed

[summer basin]

oh you know what that makes sense i got hacked yesterday by the same thing and my ability was locked for a while

so i guess it would turn off robot shields and make it so they cant make the clones

[signal wagon]

yeah, probably disables Soldiers from using the "ballistic" shield and Ghosts from going invis

[steady gate]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask (general chat looks like a battlefield so don't think I'd get an answer in there). What is the point of Rook? Is it just a difficult shell to use for the purposes of unlocking challenges?

[regal sleet]

Basically a scav run, free kit tools designed to help you blend in, loot and escape. Think free kit but as a character

[graceful radish]

Every faction upgrades rook

[tepid oyster]

with the upgrades, rook ends up being a way stronger solo class than the free faction kits on a standard shell

[edgy wyvern]

How so?

[old sentinel]

Faction milestones (ones at the bottom of the tree, unlocked every 6 points spent) unlock starting items for rook - you can start with green shield, green weapon, green health/shield packs and even a blue backpack really far into the upgrades.

[tepid oyster]

yep that

free kits should probably come with a green shield

[wintry dragon]

I would rather have a backpack than a shield tbh

[edgy wyvern]

Don’t other shells get the same rewards? I’m confused

[old sentinel]

There are Rook specific rewards, beside regular ones. For example MIDA has 2 lines:
"MIDA will now barter their wares for certain Deluxe Salvage" and
"ROOK will now start runs with a stack of Claymores"
Second one only applies to Rook runs, and there's few more.

[edgy wyvern]

That’s interesting. I’d still rather just dump resources to all the intrinsic stat upgrades and perm green/blue items in the armory

Im focusing on cyac, nucal, and sek

[old sentinel]

These capstone upgrades are free - they become available as soon as you put 6 points into the tree.

[edgy wyvern]

Ah

[old sentinel]

And then every 6 points after. SekGen might need 5, I think.

[edgy wyvern]

Very cool, so no compromise focusing on the main shell?

[old sentinel]

Nope, you can switch as often as you want. Exception is Sekiguchi - they have shell specific upgrades to unlock their Cores from armory.

But you can find those anyways so it's not that big of a deal.

[fluid sphinx]

How many healing items do you all usually bring into runs? A stack of each? More?

[lime current]

if you not triage, between 3-6, med pen, and shields

if you traige, 6 meds, 6 shields, and atleast 3 of all possible buffs/debuffs that you can

usually 1-2 1x4 stacks of ammo

[wintry dragon]

How rich are you that's like 5k in heals and buffs alone per run

[wild mica]

That is wayy too many

[cold hedge]

Real

[blissful crater]

Is Traxus easier to upgrade fully? I'm aiming for Nucal for the shield, but those gold mods sound really good

[echo kelp]

Gold mods the way to go

[dull sundial]

The rook and the sponsored kit are fundamentally different experiences

If you're getting downed by sponsored kits that's on you I thinque....

[dapper patio]

rook serves to allow you to play solo v 3 and also he is also FAR stronger than free kits once upgraded

the enhanced pistols are all good for fighting uesc, and the wstr doesnt need any justification, plus green shield and blue bag, and increased chance for matter fixatives

[dull sundial]

spawning in with a shotgun is insanity

[dapper patio]

yeah exactly

[tepid oyster]

No I’m not dying to sponsorkits I just want them to have shields

[hot wharf]

depends on which one and what kind of build you want

buildcrafting is gonna become a lot more insane with the Cradle

[shut orbit]

#1480334339962179614 message
Would appreciate feedback on this suggestion offered for the game.

[dapper patio]

why, they are free and the difference between white and green shield is only 20hp

free kits are supposed to be bad, they are free after all

[tepid oyster]

idk cuz i die too quick using them ha

[balmy hazel]

нужна помощь у меня ошибка Weasel каждые 45 секунд хотя на стрес тесте играл все было хорошо как решить?

[dapper patio]

LOL

skill issue

cannot relate

[queen flame]

definately skill issue

[queen flame]

but this is also so wrong

[dapper patio]

literally none of that is wrong

you cannot queue solo no fill into trios as any other runner, and rook once upgraded gets green shield, wstr, blue bag, better meds, claymores etc

how are either of those things wrong

[ivory heron]

was about to say compared to free kits rook upgraded is better then free kits lol

people underestimate those pistols he has to v11 punch TTK is just ridiculous

[charred heath]

false i have taken down 4 teams of 3 myself, just gotta wait till they are distracted, or create a distraction

[dapper patio]

its almost entirely positioning

you just have to isolate them from each other

down 1 by surprise, one will try res and one will chase, loop the guy chasing and kill the guy reviving, then u have turned a 1v3 into a 1v1 for free

the only teams you can't 1v3 are teams at your own skill level, but even then better players will often see a rook and get greedy a lot of the times, which lets you claymore bait or shotgun them a lot easier

[ivory heron]

claymore has been one of the best things to use against very aggressive players

[dapper patio]

especially in the red lit hallways 🥰

[ivory heron]

the most disgusting thing I've been doing on dire marsh is I have 2 pushers where I as recon sit way back with thermal vision sniper pinging and picking them off.

when its foggy they cant do anything aswell

[charred heath]

equitable distribution 1/4 bugged? i just extracted with the hard drive with like 60 seconds too spare, got no completion for it

[turbid lantern]

I think its your first extrac shooter gang if you think that a 3v1 matter when the solo got a 1/2 tap boomstick in his hand.
There is reason why game like tarkov nerfed scav mosin back in the day with now worse bullet tier.
Also rn you are facing not maxed rook with full arsenal

[shut orbit]

Is there any merit to using the Paid sponsored kits?

[turbid lantern]

dunno if you gain more rep by extracting but you have a better gear overall. Would say it's better if you struggle against npc and got more ehp.

andf 4.5k if you want to generate rep in all faction but it's gamba

[shut orbit]

I mean what else can I spend my money on besides upgrades

[turbid lantern]

nothing much sadly

[torpid path]

can anyone tell me if equipping two of the same cores stacks their benefits?

[lime roost]

wish to know the same thing, yet im too lazy to test it

despite it being super simple

[weak locust]

love me a good thief drone strike

[lime roost]

Did some mild testing

i believe no

very quick test with the close and personal core

2 cores to lower heat build up of melee

can hit the same amount of swings with 2 or 1

before overheating

[rocky prism]

If you have two cores of the same type do they stack?

[tepid oyster]

according to a thing i read yes

[acoustic oak]

Any idea what this "Shell ID" item is? Usage says it is for CyberAcme Market access

Any idea what the market is? It's not used for barter or upgrades

Oh, I see

It's just a barter item, but for whatever reason it says CyAC Market access

[hallow arch]

Shell ID used to craft epic keys @ lvl 28 CyAc

[edgy wyvern]

What’s the headshot damage multiplier?

[crystal cradle]

chat can you go over 100 in any given stat?

[crystal cradle]

different for each gun

[mental pivot]

I really wonder… it would be way too op with some unless its X1,5 and not X2

[vocal moss]

have any thief mains tested her "finer things" trait?

like does it count "items" based on slots occupied? does it count each item in a stack individually? is an 8-slot weapon counted as a single item?

[mental pivot]

Im a thief main and I think it doesnt stack

It really works based on slots

[vocal moss]

i see. so it only counts occupied slots? do you know if it's a flat increase in stats or percentage based? like do you need more items to get max buff for bigger bags or do bigger bags give you bigger buffs?

i.e does a half filled white bag function the same as a half filled blue bag

[mental pivot]

From my experience, the boost was way bigger when using a blue bag compared to a green/basic. it definitely count the total number of slots and not the % filled of your bag 👍

Im kinda disapointing that one of the blue mods for thief is so situational and useless. The one that make ppl drop random stuff acer you grapple into a knife attack instantly , like wtf is that ? As a thief main did you find a use for it ?

[vocal moss]

yeah i think that core should get a buff like "if you melee a hostile you grappled, it's an instant knock" or something lol. i'm just about to start using thief btw, so your answers are very much appreciated

[mental pivot]

Yeah that one might be too op 😂

You can ask me whatever about thief i got 50hours with her and im good using her really

[vocal moss]

thanks a lot. just this much has been great honestly.
does her xray vision trait basically work as thermals on demand? i know it needs LoS but so does a thermal optic

[mental pivot]

the xray vision is pretty unique

it does highlight enemies in a very useful way, however the range is the same as for highlighting lootboxes so dont expect to spot ppl from afar

also, i noticed on other thiefs that it creates a pretty visible ray of light that is visible for other runners, so dont use it too much in the open unless you have a real avantage on someone and want to track him after losing him for example

also the color on ppl you scan works the same as for lootboxes, if they are purple the best item they have on them is a purple.. etc

[cinder raven]

wait, so if an assasin in my team throws down his smokes, i can use the xray to see enemies through it?

[mental pivot]

i think i was able to when i had a void in my team yeah. you do see people in smoke if they are close

[vocal moss]

oh so the range is limited. how far would you say is the range? also could the visible ray of light be the blinding function? i saw it in one of the official shorts but not sure if it stuns only bots

[mental pivot]

i would say around 20 meters, however i once had a purple mod that extends the range quite a lot, adding around 15meters of range to it

also, yes it only can stun bots

[vocal moss]

thanks again for your answers!

[mental pivot]

its a pleasure helping a fellow thief hehe

[lapis light]

Trying to find some shotguns, where should I check?

[rough solar]

any new tech

[granite surge]

the xray doesnt see enemies through walls but can see through smoke about 15 meters

[old forge]

Does Xray see invis?

[fossil musk]

Only recon ult iirc

[clear scarab]

are there any websites for buildcrafting?

i feel like this game needs a build planner with all the different cores/implants/upgrades etc

[bronze ravine]

tauceti.gg

Also does anyone know who’s faster between a Vandal prime and a Destroyer Tac Sprinting?

[civic oriole]

depends on the destroyer's agility. Vandal's prime maxes out your agility, weapon handling and heat to 100

[edgy wyvern]

I saw someone put claymore on thief’s drone

[edgy wyvern]

Waiting on this too

Also I wonder what shell has best stats at max upgrades or if there’s soft/hard caps on stats

[turbid lark]

best stats feels subjective imo

[edgy wyvern]

Of course, would be interesting to see who’s the tank, best overall movement, quickest ability/cooldowns etc

[old sentinel]

You can check all stats in game, and also on websites like here https://tauceti.gg/runners/assassin/abilities-stats
You don't get stats from things other than implants, which everyone can use so check base stats and see who is the best at things.

[twin estuary]

With implants I primarily focus the implant stats themselves, the riders are just there for finer tuning on gameplay imo

[edgy wyvern]

Wdym there’s upgrades for agility, larger heat sink, heatsink cooldown, melee damage, etc

[twin estuary]

I can have 5 different knife fight implants, but all 5 make me more melee oriented, with their individual riders just informing me of additional options

[twin estuary]

Also certain faction upgrades give you higher base stats

[old sentinel]

Ah, right, forgot about non gear upgrades, my bad, need some sleep xD

[edgy wyvern]

This is what im most interested in. The intrinsic stats and seeing which runner can be min/maxed best without attachments

[twin estuary]

Rook

[edgy wyvern]

Please elaborate

[twin estuary]

Rook's free kit eventually becomes fairly well rounded, but without the free implants capstone, their stats will always just be whatever youve upgraded. Therefore Rook benefits the most from those upgrades

[hot wharf]

buildcrafting

[edgy wyvern]

Hmm but the shell upgrades are universal. I think I disagree, considering on top of the min/max base stats the other shell abilities outshine Rook

[twin estuary]

I saw a "V11 Punch is OP" short, so expect at least 4 more ytubers to also make a similar video, and expect to find more of them on runners, especially without mods.

Which is funny because ive found blue punches off recruits kek

[fossil musk]

the punch is great but its not op imo

[edgy wyvern]

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Runner Shell Stat Comparison

Stat	Assassin	Destroyer	Recon	Thief	Triage	Vandal	Best Runner
Heat Capacity	10	15	20	15	10	25	🥇 Vandal
Agility	20	10	15	20	10	30	🥇 Vandal
Loot Speed	15	5	10	25	10	5	🥇 Thief
Fall Resistance	10	5	5	20	5	10	🥇 Thief
Melee Damage	10	15	5	10	5	5	🥇 Destroyer
Finisher Siphon	10	10	25	15	5	10	🥇 Recon
Prime Recovery	10	5	5	10	10	10	Tie
Tactical Recovery	5	10	10	5	5	5	🥇 Destroyer / Recon
Self-Repair Speed	10	15	5	5	25	5	🥇 Triage
Revive Speed	15	10	10	5	20	5	🥇 Triage
Hardware	10	25	10	5	15	10	🥇 Destroyer
Firewall	20	20	15	15	15	5	🥇 Assassin / Destroyer
Ping Duration	10	5	25	5	15	5	🥇 Recon

(Values are base shell stats before implants/upgrades.) (MetaForge)

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Category Winners (Quick Ranking)

Movement

1. Vandal – fastest + most heat capacity
2. Assassin / Thief – high agility
3. Recon
4. Destroyer / Triage

Combat

1. Destroyer – highest melee + tank stats
2. Recon – strongest finisher value
3. Assassin / Thief
4. Triage / Vandal

Support / Utility

1. Recon – intel and ping duration
2. Triage – healing + revive
3. Assassin – stealth utility
4. Thief – loot economy
5. Destroyer
6. Vandal

Looting / Economy

1. Thief
2. Assassin
3. Recon / Triage
4. Destroyer / Vandal

Survivability

1. Triage – best self-repair + revive
2. Destroyer – tank stats
3. Assassin
4. Recon / Thief / Vandal

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What Each Runner Is “Best At”

• Vandal → mobility and heat management
• Thief → looting and traversal
• Destroyer → frontline combat / durability
• Recon → intel and team tracking
• Triage → healing and reviving teammates
• Assassin → stealth flanking and solo play (GamesRadar+)

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✅ Key Difference Insight

• The runners are intentionally specialized, not balanced evenly.
• Each one dominates 2–3 stats and is weak elsewhere to force squad synergy.
• Example squad meta often combines Recon (intel) + Destroyer (frontline) + Triage (support) or swaps Assassin/Thief for stealth/loot runs.

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✅ If you want, I can also:

• Build a full stat spreadsheet with rank numbers (1–6) for every category, or
• Show which runner is statistically best overall, or
• Compare abilities + stats together to find the strongest runner builds.

[fossil musk]

its a very good budget gun, and its preferable to get it on rook, but otherwise id be dropping it for any other weapon if i can

[edgy wyvern]

This is base stats, would be cool to see max stats

[fossil musk]

overrun is dogshit though and ill stand by that until it gets buffed

i also really hope the wstr gets some tuning

its too powerful atm

i guess its kinda balanced by being super expensive

its one of the most expensive guns rn

it costs 6k to buy it outright from arachne

[twin estuary]

Overrun feels so good but it kicks like a horse and I stg it doesnt down a runner even if you hit every bullet in the mag

It's terrible compared to literally any other gun

Shoots too fast, has too low damage per bullet

Halve its RPM and double its damage so it keeps the same dps

[twin estuary]

I run punches as a main gun unironically

It's incredibly consistent

[wintry dragon]

That's just the m77

[twin estuary]

Alright, then give it 10 more bullets per mag and lower the recoil lmao

Oh wait thats just a retaliator smh

It has too much kick for its rpm

And its damage per bullet is low as heck

[wintry dragon]

You can do that with attachments considering the gun costs 100 bucks

[twin estuary]

I think maybe a purple mod might give it +10

I know greens give it +5

[wintry dragon]

The gun is very clearly designed as a budget rifle and it's perfectly fine in that role

It's DPS is good

[twin estuary]

The problem is how much better both pistols perform comparably

[wintry dragon]

The recoil limits range

The pistols are pretty good true but the AR will beat them

The light pistol can win if you hit only headshots I think, 1.8 multiplier

I wouldn't be against giving the overrun like 5 bullets but that's it

[bronze ravine]

Destroyer has to be better than tied for last in movement right? Tac sprint and an aerial dodge.

It’s at least 3rd if not 2nd

[edgy wyvern]

Good point

This is not considering shell abilities

Just raw stats

[bronze ravine]

Oh okay

[simple tangle]

Do people really consider Vandal useless?

[sweet forge]

Is it possible for me to build enough melee damage to one tap players in the head with the heavy stab?

I wish to stab with more efficiency

[wintry dragon]

I think so but it requires destroyer with the core that increases melee after dash

[versed wigeon]

I think with crouching tiger I ended up with 85 melee damage on destroyer. It was one-two downed then the final hit in the combo completely killed him

Blue shields if I remember right

[torpid path]

do stats have any bonuses above 100? like i have 110 loot speed rn

[foggy berry]

IF ANYONE HAS Adrenal Core PLEASE DM ME need to test build

[crystal cradle]

I am wondering the same thing

could I get like 150 revive speed and just be insta-reviving my teammates??

[torpid path]

im guessing it probably doesnt

[stoic flame]

I’m not sure if this is the right channel to ask this question but does consuming an Energy Amp improves prime and tactical ability recharge rates for the entire run or only for a short period of time?

[agile wing]

short

[dawn sky]

Just learned that the circuit breaker shotgun is HORRIBLE if you don't charge it. Just lost a fight with a WHITE shield runner after pumping 4 shots into him center mass

[versed wigeon]

For any one reading this I believe there is 2 tiers of charge as well.

[jaunty coral]

Since this is build crafting channel, what does everyone think of Recon with a V11 Punch with survival kit and distance runner?

[tardy harbor]

I been seeing triage cores on the website with all the cores mods ect ect, and it refers to an ability called restoration field? What the fuck is a restoration field

[acoustic oak]

field that... restores

[acoustic oak]

anything with a self repair speed is good

bonus points if you run it suppressed

[dapper patio]

not sure if intentional but yes you can actually

[viscid robin]

Does anyone run with just meds, no gun? I new and it seems low risk mid reward, so I was just wondering if it is actually practical

[acoustic oak]

I don't really see why you'd do that

You can just buy a V11 Punch and some ammo for like 500 credits

Might as well go in with no meds at all and just try to get stuff on the field

If you're going in with a knife, at least run some implants that increase your agility and knife damage

[stable fractal]

Anyone hit vip ranks yet? If so, what level did you hit in your faction for it to be vip

[dense mist]

once you are 30 and have no outstanding rewards you go to vip

[stable fractal]

Ty bro I been searching for an answer

[sleek matrix]

went assassin and did this on oupost was making 10k a run if i extracted hahaha

[acoustic dove]

I wanted to know if optimization is currently in its final stages or if it will be improved?

[outer totem]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55141719441_955753ace2_b.jpg

here is my backpack 🙂

giant lmg mag 96 rounds

i shall swap the med for ammo pack

[still heart]

Hello guys, any weapons attachemnt expert here?

[outer totem]

idk i just learned alt is the sniper zoom

[still heart]

very interested in some attachment optimization.

But I need the right guy to ask 😛

I will ask in the big channel as well.

[lament apex]

What does +10 Melee do exactly? Does ist give a flat damage increase of 10 percent?

[stray isle]

What you looking for?

[acoustic dove]

I got a bug where I'm in my lobby but I can't upload a photo.

[still heart]

There are some mods for weapons that give Aim Assist -0.xx° , on what weapons is this good? My assumption was this is good on semi-auto weapons and snipers, as recoil has no use in this type of weapons. Am I wrong?

[stray isle]

Yes, it’s good on those but also on close range weapons, cause it makes it aim for you ahahha

The main thing for mods is not the stats but the actual effect

[still heart]

can you explain what do you mean by this?

[stray isle]

I’m talking about Chip mods here

Some give stat changes aswell, but you should focus on the effect rather than the stat changes

As for other mods some stats changes are more impactful, like on the handle or the magazine

The stats on the handle is the main focus

I’m not home right now to make visual examples to explain better sry

[hollow garden]

has anyone taken a look at minmaxing the economy for builds

seems like theres a lot of weird stuff like ammo crates being far cheaper than buying ammo

or price difference in sponsored kits vs regular

[stray isle]

Ammo crates are always better for the cost

But you can buy limited quantity

[viscid robin]

I run assassin too, thanks

[distant steppe]

Contracts only give 10 xp?

[lavish bronze]

Any info on maxing out hardware and firewall? I want to go test since I have 100 in both stats but I dont want to lose my purple mods lol

[thorny sparrow]

Does anybody here understand how the stacking mechanic works with the Prestige Interval Mag mod for the M77 AR?

I understand that the gun builds up stacks when using iron sights, but how are those stacks buffing the gun when flipping on the scope?

[dapper patio]

unfortunately any real gain is usually capped by supply and storage

[abstract nimbus]

My favourite build is Rook + Claymore. Boom.

[wintry dragon]

The claymores are pretty amazing value tbh

[old sentinel]

This goddamn chat doesn't allow pictures for some reason so I had to make a spreadsheet with all runner stats and factions, plus max stats at full faction bonus. Feel free to steal it if you want.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dBP9rr9lbLLSVEsS2JHJKsCBVhqaB7791azJDxJLEQc/edit?usp=sharing

[signal spindle]

Yeah this is kind of a busted loadout for how cheap it is. V11 might be the best gun in the game relative to its availability and cost

It's obviously not as good as the actual high end guns but it's 50 credits

[fossil musk]

i think i like recon more for solos

i find being able to detect players is better than hiding from them, at least in my experience

[atomic swan]

okay general is hot ass so asking here

is there a destiny item manager equivalent website for marathon yet? i haven't really found anything online and would like to look at inventory without needing to launch the game

[lime roost]

85 bro?

Rookie numbers

I'm at 105 with green build

180 melee with blue and crouching tiger

That's with assassin

Could definitely hit 200 with destroyer dash though ngl

Or assassin gold shadow strike

In theory I think with purple implants and good luck you could get 250 with some of the cores

[red spindle]

There is not

[acoustic oak]

I've been trying to hoard the suppressors you get from them on upgraded Rook runs

Comes in very handy when fighting against UESC

[lofty helm]

How good is vandal. I’ve only used them like twice but I finally completed the Sekiguchi quest and just got two of their cores

[lavish bronze]

Its good if you like movement, lowkey an implant that lets you slide in water for no heat is better than the majority of her cores tho

[maiden mountain]

I’m excited to see what the cradle entails for more customization

[fluid harbor]

does anybody know if implants with "if you're the last person alive in your crew" type buffs apply automatically if you're solo queuing?

[mystic nest]

yes

but all that does is increase revive speed which is useless solo

[crystal cradle]

Revive speed applies to self-revive

[abstract linden]

Oooh

[vestal idol]

does anyone actually use the ce tactical
i feel like its absolute shit but theres no way they would make a gun thats just bad
is there any use/way to utilize it?

[atomic ore]

I think it's weak by design but it's still decent with ammo economy compared to a lot of light ammo stuff & having fairly easy suppressor access always has use cases

[stoic falcon]

Id still rather have it than an overrun

[dapper patio]

its actually really good vs uesc, especially when its upgraded a little

super ammo efficient and when you get it as rook as long as you have the enhanced upgrade from i think traxus capstone it comes silenced

so you dont pull agro from every uesc in the area

i wouldnt honestly use it outside of that but it is useful for that at least

[atomic ore]

it is more of a utility weapon than anything but that makes sense for the most accessible weapon in the game

[vestal idol]

that makes sense actually, i still prefer overruns from just killinmg a random uesc but i guess it isnt fully useless thenm

[sweet forge]

how significant is 60 melee dmg? (+55 from implants on vandal)

[tepid oyster]

even after the 5 bullet buff to the base mag?

[summer moat]

anyone know where the outpost lockboxes are? Couldn't find any flares in 3 matches

[hollow galleon]

outpost doesnt have lock boxes cause i never saw them

go dire or pewrimeter

[hollow galleon]

it depends on your lobby if most are running blue and above yes it helps a lot

[nimble cloud]

u talking about knife melee or melee while holding a gun?

[sweet forge]

Knife melee

I like gutting and stabbing and it’s been working out p well but I just wanted to know how impactful it really was to stack it at that number. Didn’t know if 60 melee damage was like an addictive number to the melee damage or if it was like a % increase

[summer moat]

okay thanks, was just hoping to have a higher chance at golds from lockboxes

on outpost

[hollow galleon]

Yup, gl on other maps and one more trick go with thief and her trait lets ya see the boxes rarity. Meaning if they got Blue or green items.

[near cloud]

do we know what the maximum amount of stacks you can get on keyboard warrior is?

[rocky prism]

Do lmg
Shield recharge?

[mystic sonnet]

I just realized the V22 Volt Thrower has a 1.0 precision multiplier, so does that mean it's the same damage for body shots and head shots?

because it feels like it does more, I've used that gun a lot

or is it 1x the default multiplier maybe...

[tepid oyster]

where does it say that

[mystic sonnet]

in the vault you hover a weapon and you can inspect it

[tepid oyster]

oh duh

[urban quail]

does "precision shot" mean "head shot/crit"? i've been unclear on the lingo there. for a while i thought it meant aiming down sights/scope

hmm yeah, it's headshot or other weak points

[dapper patio]

yea weak points/headshots

some of the wording is awfully inconsistent

[warm tendon]

Hey, do we know how the CD reduction work for the Prime recovery Stat? 1:1? %?

[lime roost]

got a 130 melee dmg destroyer rn

gonna shee if the cores double stack

can officially confirm cores do note stack

can i check something with you guys

Can melee not pierce shields? I.e you first hit will only ever break shield and not do any health damage

[frail plover]

hello guys, i'm sorry if this topic is already been discussed but is it worth to push stats over 100 or there is no advantage?

[stoic nymph]

we really do need a firing range huh

finally done with traxus priority quest, can't wait to try legendary mods

[proud epoch]

hello, does the dash and sprint ability of the destroyer shell count as a tactical or trait ability for triggering effects like the "eyes on fire" chip mod?

[charred carbon]

no cooldowns probably means it dosent work with that mod

[hot wharf]

depends on the cores.

two Boutiques on Theif Stack

[hot wharf]

nah it seems like 10 points like around 6%

[hot wharf]

this is what this chat is for. great to finally see people use it right

now yall should talk about synergies between mods implants and cores and show your implant rolls cause they are randomly rolled items

[sweet forge]

Whaaaat I didn’t know they were randomly rolled that adds a lot more depth for me

Perfect then

[sonic oasis]

Didn't know this! That's really nice

[hot wharf]

they can have 1 randomly rolled perk on each the higher the rarity the more it’s guaranteed to have randomly rolled perks

[hot wharf]

Self Repair Speed works on Triage Med Drone

[twin estuary]

It has one of the best draw speeds, I like to use it with LMGs or scout rifles because of the holdout potential, tho I do prefer the punch lowkey

[twin estuary]

Yes

[noble herald]

I really like the poison knife mod

[tight egret]

Another underrated perk is finisher syphon if you max it out and have a triage on your team aswell and if everyone has a drone and you finish someone it gives you so much shield and health back and gets you rdy if another team third partys

Also putting a point into melee damage you one hit knife the recruit uesc good for sneaking around without wasting bullets

[simple tangle]

Are there advantages to using each ammo type? Like does volt do more damage to shields, etc.?

[undone drift]

i believe volt is better against shield

the weapons also tend have a charge mode too

volt can replenish over time unlike regular ammo

[long merlin]

I kill UESC way quicker with Volt or Heavy. So I would say yes

[simple tangle]

But the difference between heavy and light? I feel that heavy does more damage but I can’t say for certain. I know mips and the higher level volt ammo definitely just does more damage but what’s the differences between the two, you know?

[tight egret]

If u want a 1v3 God loadout use the scar and shotgun

[undone drift]

heavy weapons defo do more damage

but i think light ammo weapons tend to have higher fire rate

think the bully smg

[simple tangle]

Right, Bully vs brrt

I wish light had a bigger stack size due to that. As of right now there seems to be no reason to run light guns if heavy just drops faster

Burns through more ammo, but you can’t hold more?

[undone drift]

ig they hold 80 compared to 60

[near jasper]

heavy has a better chance to stagger a bot

[undone drift]

my favourite heavy ammo weapon is the magnum

it's crazy good

[mystic sonnet]

Think it's because not everything has a head. Like those drones that fly overhead and put a status effect on you. Their weak spot is the glowy bit on the bottom which is also a precision hit.

[undone drift]

maybe it could have been worded as a critial hit, or a weak spot shot

i also thought precision shot was aiming down sights

[mystic sonnet]

Yeah might have been better it confused me at first too

[tight egret]

Volt weapons drop runners quick though too not just shield lol

[simple tangle]

Holy shit do they? I need to update my prescription

[mystic sonnet]

They literally go into a twitchy animation the stagger is really good, completely disabled them as far as I can tell, not sure if it happens even on stronger ones I need to pay more attention

[simple tangle]

Right, that’s been my feeling too! I just could never figure out if there was an actusl difference

[tight egret]

Convinced the scar is best weapon @simple tangle I have 1v3 so many teams with it

[mystic sonnet]

I think vs runners your precision multiplier and your aim matter more than anything

[tight egret]

Pretty much every weapon is well balanced aside from shotguns and snipers

[mystic sonnet]

But I do feel like I've had good success vs runners with LMG, SMG, and precision weapons more than AR

I tried the shotgun everyone says is OP and shot a guy from 10ft away and he melted me with SMG before I could fire again, but I think my aim was more on body maybe if I'd hit the head

[simple tangle]

Volt seems to be the ammo of guns with lots of gimmicks. Rounds that seek, charging, different fire modes

[tight egret]

You also get hella ammo

With volt weapons

[simple tangle]

Only really the lmgs get a shield, and that requires you to find one!

[mystic sonnet]

I use volt as secondary always because the ammo lasts so long and can recharge

[undone drift]

Oh yeah, i rarely go through more than 3 volt batteries

[mystic sonnet]

I've noticed too volt rechargeable from any movement even crouch walking, even though the tooltip says sprinting

[cobalt night]

Volt is the king of ammo preservation. I grab 2 stacks and that's more than enough. Rare for me to burn through even 3 clips.

[signal spindle]

Volt goes hard. V11 is $50, the ammo is borderline free wherever bots hang out, and it's fairly effective against basically anything you can fight

[tight egret]

Also the ammo backpack is really good with volt weapons

One thing that would be pretty neat with destroyer is if you have purple shields your tac ability with shield is also purple. Gold shields gold tactical etc just more info on what color shield that destroyer has.

[simple tangle]

Overall it just seems like volt weapons are superior to the other types. Even the volt shotty is nuts

[misty dust]

Why does some implants destroy your heat, yet don't say they do that in their description?

Like I put in Sprint Kit on Implant 1, it makes no mention of killing your heat...but it takes -45 off my heat capacity.

[cobalt night]

Its compared to your current stats, isn't it?

Like you have an item that gives you more heat and swapping it with that implant would remove the bonus from that item

[misty dust]

Naw, I looked it up Sprint Kit just 0's out your Heat Capacity, no matter what its at...dunno if thats a bug, or intended.

[cobalt night]

Hmm, damn

[misty dust]

Which really dont make sense cuz the benefits it gives arent even good.

[charred carbon]

its a visual bug i think

[misty dust]

Dunno, Im not even going to run it at all...I mean if I pick it up in match and test it just to see if in match I have like no heat cap...yeah, I'll know for sure.

[prisma steppe]

Implants in general cost heat, look at your stats for more information

[cobalt night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1305037749899759639/1481451919015677962/IMG_4680.gif

Damn

Didn't know that 😔

[misty dust]

I used it in game and it is just a wrong report out of a match, it didnt lower my heat

[near jasper]

what's runners' opinion on railguns? they any good? seem a bit redundant when you have powerful sniper rifles

[slow gulch]

I run them bc I keep getting them for free and it’s a free kill with headshots

I prefer sniper rifles though

[misty dust]

Railguns kinda meh, they need more dmg for how long they take to spin up...I feel Blue + Headshot should be 1 tap, green and white should be 1 tap Bodyshot...otherwise, they kinda meh.

Cuz you're so vulnerable while spinning, and having to swap after a shot...takes time, you still vulnerable.

[prime pier]

test

[edgy wyvern]

Quicker charge up would be nice

[misty dust]

I dunno, cant find real ways to utilize it, I mean sure take a free one every so often to practice, but yeah...real world use, seems kinda meh.

[signal spindle]

Might be better PVE since some of those are more predictable

But that's kind of niche for one of your two weapon slots

[royal jackal]

Had a teammate use it for convoy on outpost and we shredded that supply drop in no time

[misty dust]

Ranked cant get here fast enough, Im always paired with freekits, and Im to the point Im just running free kits, whatever.

[lyric stream]

Anyone used the Impact H-AR? Haven’t gotten my hands on one yet

[gentle gate]

They're adding a ranked mode? Oof.

[royal marsh]

It's pretty good if you can aim well, but the small magazine size makes it a bit unreliable compared to other guns. It can kill most UESC in a few headshots, but I haven't had the chance to try it on runners yet. I personally wouldn't run it as I mostly run solos and all my fights are usually in buildings. They drop pretty frequently in the outpost armouries, especially in dormitories. Definitely a solid PvE gun if you can get an attachment to increase the mag size.

[lyric stream]

Thanks for the breakdown!

I have the schema for it just cost a lot wasn’t sure if worth it

[royal marsh]

Personally been using the bully SMG a lot as it's cheap and the recoil is simple, but good guns are probably different for team games as solos is just whoever shoots who first

Depends how much money you have and if you have a team, could be more viable with extra people to back you up while you're reloading

[sonic oasis]

The cash flow core is a MUST for the Data Card missions (it pings a nearby data card everytime you open an unlooted container)

[lyric stream]

I’m obsessed with the bully right now, squad wipe after squad wipe with it

Mines kitted out with an extended mag which makes multiple engagements easier

[native nebula]

Bully is crazy if u increase stability

It can just laser ppl

[misty dust]

My mom warned me about Bullys.

[native nebula]

Did she say they’re fuckin rad

[distant steppe]

The strider is probably the best gun in the game?

[edgy wyvern]

Honestly seems like they all are with the right mods attachments and of course working synergistic with the shell

Some require higher skill than others. Getting use to rate of fire, recoil, reload time, etc

[native nebula]

Yeah every gun seems to more than viable

Overrun still needs a buff maybe

[pulsar basin]

What about the “not the needler “

[distant steppe]

Yes lol

[native nebula]

That thing shreds lowkey

[pulsar basin]

Noted. Didn’t go smooth for me first try

[native nebula]

It is hard when people are moving quickly horizontally relative to you though

And the range isn’t excellent, but the tracking lowkey has helped a lot. Just kinda gotta pick your battles with it, or bait people closer

But considering the bully can have crazy good range, it does kinda make the volt thrower obsolete imo

At least when you’re kitting them out

[signal spindle]

I can still put in good work with the Overrun in short bursts but it eats through ammo (backpack and magazine both) really quickly

And even modded up it's still less effective than just running the stock V11

[edgy wyvern]

My buddy has the extended mag on it, 50 rounds per clip

Overrun shreds when upgraded

[misty dust]

Volt Thrower is effective up close, and I think that and the Precision Volt weapon are really good on the AI...so is Punch, all Volt just rocks against UESC.

Not much a fun of the Volt AR though...doesnt seem too great, I guess if you're further away it's not bad...but the Precision one just feels better, and it actually does ok in PVP.

[radiant dagger]

I got a Myrmidon schema.
Time to main Knife Destroyer I guess.

[supple oxide]

assassin shell + double barrel shotgun + that mod that makes it have 3 shots + that mod that makes his invis last longer + purple shield
best thing you can do

[misty dust]

Best build is one that requires you to Hold W and left click.

[severe blade]

How's the Twin Tap?

[summer mauve]

where to find assassin shell?

[supple oxide]

its one of the characters you can choose, that mewing guy with a hood who has invisibility and smokes

and the mod for it is just random but i think its a purple rarity so

[summer mauve]

cheers

[signal spindle]

There's like 14 of them in every solos run on Perimeter

[summer mauve]

so far I have only played with destroyer shell

[keen eagle]

Loadout -> Look up at the top/top right and pick "Shell Select"

I thnik that's what you are asking?

[keen eagle]

Assassin shell is fun, highly recommend for solo runs especially if you want to work on contracts in those. Just makes it easier to get around the map and avoid UESC, escape or ambush people.

Destoryer is fun but I found it a bit of a pain in solo cause you're basically forced to PvE.

[summer mauve]

That’s awesome feedback thanks a bunch

[keen eagle]

Np, good luck out there.

[undone drift]

why does the Impact H-ar cost 7k when it's a grey weapon from a schema

[cinder phoenix]

all weapons are gray if they have no mods

[cold summit]

does hipfire being -1.29 and ads being 1.39 mean that my hipfire is more accurate? or are they on different scales

[midnight hinge]

As a rule in Bungie games, ADS is always more accurate than hipfire.

[misty dust]

I'd argue that, and say anything with a range under 30m is better hipfired. 😄

[midnight hinge]

In my extensive experience in Destiny 2, and playing on controller/console, I find ADS significantly more effective at all but point-blank range (shotguns). I use hipfire aiming from the hip to quickly move my reticle then ADS plus Aim Assist, reticle friction and bullet magnetism helps me out a lot. But tbh most of my experience comes from Destiny 2 where hipfire is absolute cheeks - I don't have experience hipfiring in Marathon much yet.

I'm usually using precise weapons and going for headshots

In close range encounters when I'm using an automatic weapon I ADS and use crouch-spamming to get an upper hand - my controller has back paddles which makes it easy.

[pastel ginkgo]

how good at d2 are you or were

[valid jackal]

how do you barter or craft

[hollow jackal]

anyone know the v11 punch's true rpm stat?

[signal spindle]

there's no crafting per se (that I've found), but you can trade certain loot items in faction shops for items so that's kind of like crafting

and you can swap attachments on and off guns

[valid jackal]

ok cool

thanks imma try now

[signal spindle]

go to the armory tab in the gear menu

there's a different tab for each faction's shop

and as you gain rep with factions they sell you better stuff, and give you better daily freebies

[ornate wedge]

I second this question

[midnight hinge]

Lifetime 1.5kd solo only, not insane

[quick vault]

What's with the Copperhead SMG? it looks worst than the Bully in every way but is much more expensive.

[atomic nest]

Guys am I a moron or is vandals signal jam slide core bugged now or something

First game on outpost and it only activated while I was sliding and then immediately went away

Unless it was bugged before and this is how it's supposed to work

[charred carbon]

i tested it and it might be a 300rpm

[hollow jackal]

i got the same number

[charred carbon]

it still slaps

even the range falloff might be wrong because i keep getting people at ranges up to 45m relatively fast

[charred carbon]

it works only while sliding

[atomic nest]

wtf

i was using it last night and it was giving me the jammer effect for 30 seconds every time i did a slide

idk how that happened lmao

[charred carbon]

damn that so op if it did

[atomic nest]

no idea how i got it to do that

ok its happening again

how is this happening lol

[charred carbon]

do you have two of them or is it purple

[atomic nest]

no and no

[charred carbon]

maybe a weapon mod

[atomic nest]

figured it out

this causes it

oh i cant send images

its the lingering effects from consumables implant effect

[misty dust]

This game is bleeding players so much, every single day 1-3K Concurrent Peak Lost. =/

[charred carbon]

ohhhh thats such a sick interaction

[charred carbon]

if you want to ruin any experience you have in life think about how that thing is gonna end one day

[atomic nest]

i wouldnt really call that bleeding players either lol

[dawn sky]

Does V11 punch only do increased damage with a full charge, or do partial charges do extra damage too?

[granite surge]

No its not its been at 70k every day since the server slam day 1 except for one day and it was only slightly lower. Today was almost 70k for the entire afternoon

And everyone knows day 1 of a season is when new players join

[sharp sage]

What's ADS

Does UESC have ammo? Can they run out, do they have to reload?

[sharp sage]

100 Melee Damage knife will two shot blue shielded runners to the front, and one to the back.

[charred carbon]

only full charge sometimes you press too long and ruin your firerate because you charge half a shot

[stoic nymph]

backstab do more damage?

[winter mauve]

How big is the damage increase from Crowd Control? (stacking melee damage on kills)

[hollow jackal]

can anyone post the stats page of the conquest lmg?

[signal spindle]

ADS is "aiming down sights", usually left trigger on controllers and right mouse click on keyboard/mouse

[thick jasper]

do shell cores effects stack if I have multiple of the same one?

like assassins "smoke fields last longer" does that stack if i have 2

[mental pivot]

I think it does yeah

[proud epoch]

any recommendations for useful weapon mods for destroyer? it feels to me none really interact with my abilities.

[keen eagle]

Just starting to get into this myself.

I would think maybe the one that let's you turn on an energy shield? Seems like it could be useful when using Search and Destroy - you need to sustain damage on someone so the rockets fire. Seems like a situation you would likely be aggressive in and in turn, probably taking return fire. Keep yourself up to hopefully get rockets to trigger.

Not sure how good it is yet but I think signal jammer one could potentially be good all around too.

[misty dust]

And that's just not true, it peaked 70kish the first few days, nowadays it barely breaks 60k.

[mental pivot]

Keep for crio !

[mental void]

Noticed melee is inconsistent? 110 melee and didn't one shot a white shields with right click. Curious if range matters. Been doing knife builds and maybe its not always guaranteed max dmg? That hit should have hit for 220

They died on second hit but I was just curious to why it didn't kill him

[alpine kayak]

Does overcapping stats do anything?

[alpine kayak]

Any idea what the multiplier is to back damage?

[errant pecan]

Does anyone know which faction sells the suppressor ?

[graceful wolf]

Does the damage number on the weapon actually equate to the damage it deals to players? like if a weapon says 20 damage and player is running free kit, it would take 7 hits to down them?

Or is there some hidden damage reduction of some kind like most games have

[trail berry]

Can anyone here help me with Thief Drone bindings for controller? I can't use the hook thingy that steals loot and opens doors and stuff

[edgy wyvern]

Hey all, what’s our actual damage output? Fire power or damage? I have noticed sometimes they’re the same and sometimes different

[sullen forge]

It should be R1/RB

[modest bronze]

I just found an implant with the perk Logic Bomb that hacks nearby hostile after precision UESC kills.

the game has given me the power to create the Dokkaebi build

are there any any other implants that deal with hacking?

[remote dome]

For anything that says melee kills gives you a stacking bonus to melee damage, does that mean for a limited amount of time in run, or for the remainder of the full run?

[modest bronze]

the remainder of the run

those effects usually only go away if you get downed

then you have to build up the bonus again

[remote dome]

Sweet! I kinda assumed the full run (that you're standing) but sometimes stuff in the game is a little opaque, thank you

[lunar pagoda]

i saw a thief go invis one time. is there some implant or core or gun mod that does that? or was i tripping

[sharp sierra]

yes there are

precision dmg and sprint slide are 2 i know of

both purple i believe

[lunar pagoda]

ho ly. ok ty

[crisp shale]

i got sprint slide on a green once, i think it was on an implant

[sharp sierra]

to go invis? damn

thatd be crazy

[crisp shale]

yeah

so op for dropping bot aggro

[sharp sierra]

yeah no defo

[sharp sierra]

also running shotty in pvp

[crisp shale]

its super broken on thief with a shotgun using the slide cancel tech

[sharp sierra]

oh yeahh dude didnt even think of that

[remote dome]

theres a gold core that gives you invis on shield break too i saw

Ah, it's the gold shield that's right

'spectre shield'

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1475899477901578402/1482043529063567360/image.png?ex=69b58418&is=69b43298&hm=f5a3fe0c4ae90ae7add2706c7cd016b6b7d959383dfc4ee31ae6c5ee81ae4972&

[lunar pagoda]

is there a running list of implant options somewhere? id love to just read thru all the build stuff myself

[remote dome]

As much as I hate to recoomend it, pretty sure the fandom wiki has that info

[turbid lark]

maybe tau ceti gg or whatever might have them?

[covert crater]

Am i tripping or is the Deluxe Chip Mods "Endless Runner" and "INSOMNIAC" the same trait?

[wild spoke]

any suggested public resources for all the cores to theory craft builds?

[tropic phoenix]

runner is cardio kick and insomniac is energy amp

also runner is only “a small amount” vs insomniacs “massive””

[rough solar]

Hi

[nocturne rune]

Any fun builds for triage?

[misty dust]

The ones that sucessfully extract, are pretty fun./

[fading cosmos]

Pretty sure that bit just depends on rarity

[tropic phoenix]

you’re so right

[true perch]

DO DUPLICATE CORES STACK ?

[loud hawk]

no

[true perch]

💀

[austere socket]

That would be a nice change for vault space