🗣marathon-general-chat

[haughty marsh]

fuckin love those events bro.... All bosses spawn on reserve, good luck!

[tall bloom]

i be lapping compiler your happy w clearance 5

[inland quail]

idk unlock every upgrade and slash armory prices, let people run with good loot all week

[neat flare]

https://discord.com/channels/1303855380845301861/1503303590159188008

[silver sorrel]

If you want to climb ranked in a game, especially one that let's you risk using better loadouts at a cost (and even if not), you will eventually want to get people for premades, whether that is through a discord or meeting them in game and reinviting/friending them.

[haughty marsh]

true, i just like the nucal one better :(

Im about one quest away from VIP now tho

[wintry bough]

I'm half certain there is... Maybe my memory is foggy though.

NO. IM THINK OF DEAD CELLS

[golden harness]

Man it feels like it's just full shoot rook on sight at this point

[haughty marsh]

how would you feel if contracts linked directly to what you can buy from vendors? Like instead of upgrades determining whats available, your faction rank does?

[opaque notch]

Yeah theres also a difference between eating burgers and drinking a fruit smoothie, but it’s all food at the end of the day. You’re getting different experiences, but they’re both experiences integral to the intention of the type of media. If you want to game without challenge, you’ve got plenty of idle mobile clicker games to suit you, but art requires engagement and boy do I feel engaged with the world of Marathon after going a trillion dollars in Sekiguchi debt and a couple hundred thousand credits down the drain.

[icy hemlock]

Hi Runners

[hardy lantern]

It always been kos for rooks. No one likes roaches on their carpet.

[silver sorrel]

The idea that he is expressing is still there. Not everyone plays games, nor watches movies, for the same reasons. Not everyone watches/plays/listens to the same things either, let alone having different reasons for doing so.

[opaque notch]

Aint that what Nightreign is kinda

[inland quail]

Games ar just that, games. Sometimes story is more important, sometimes the gameplay.
A game shouldn't be "fun" by default, it can be many different things. Challenging, thought provoking, interesting, unusual, cozy, relaxing and plethora of other things

[wintry bough]

My point is that challenge can be fun whilst also being punishing in a way that doesn't act demoralizing or "too hard"

[haughty marsh]

nighrein has a more roguelike vibe, where you just do runs that always star the same. I know sekiro gets harder the more you die because of the soul mechanic or whatever it is

[hardy lantern]

Nightreign is rouge lite. I want a souls game where the map stays but part of my gear gets put into the bloodstain.

[plush kestrel]

Fuck this fucking game

[modest talon]

alright im gonna say it

triage players are almost always throwing

[neat flare]

A lovely trio handed me a purple backpack and a gold m7 ar tonight while I was on a rook run, and I exfilled with them!

[inland quail]

Hello witch runnah

[opaque notch]

Terraria Mediumcore-souls

[silver sorrel]

For a lot of us, the challenge Marathon presents is fun. But I can see why someone would have a different preference, totally fair to have your own opinion on how you'd like the game to be.

Some of us are happy and will disagree with you, but that's cool.

[plush kestrel]

I literally tried to help them get the Warden and they shot me. Ungrateful fucks

[icy hemlock]

This is probably a very common issue, but what is the performance like for you guys? I love this game but the drops in frames are abysmally bad and genuinely make the game harder for me personally

[cerulean quartz]

pregnant

[opaque notch]

It’s generally demoralizing to lose a bunch but goes for every game. Marathon’s systems actually inhibit ragequeueing and throwing by the gear mechanic that you criticize for being too frustrating

[fallen echo]

just a reminder this statement on retention and whatnot was written back in March and it takes a couple months for it to be finalized and published officially, so retention being high was based on what retention was like back then not now

[haughty marsh]

depends how many rooks. One rook in voip? sure they can ride along, cant kill us all easily anyway.

2 or more rooks acting friendly? Could easily turn on us and kill full 3 man team when we drop our guard. I kill rooks if theres more than 1, even if friendly

[icy hemlock]

Average Mida supporters smh

[frosty salmon]

is the lfg channel gone?

[wintry bough]

Right. I'm asking for the game to be somewhat less grindy and more achievable. Hence "loot showering."

[silver sorrel]

9800 x3d, 5080, I hover around 200ish FPS in game during fights n such.

I hear the game is pretty generous on lower hardware, but that really good hardware like mine tends to not see more than 200

[hardy lantern]

Lucky, I would have crushed you. Last time I met a rook it tried to fry us in pinwheel with a zeus. We got him low and chased him off the ship. He fucked the ladder grab up so his ankles when kaboom at the exit of the ship. It was kind of funny.

[plush kestrel]

i'm about to throw a wrench into my fucking monitor

[inland quail]

It is a known issue that some players experience low fps even on high end rigs. I think many people expect optimization patch in the future, but we don't know for sure when and if it will come

[frosty salmon]

where is the lfg channel? i cant find it anymore

[haughty marsh]

hey man you might want to drop the arachne affiliation from your name if you are getting upset about people killing... I mean ur a part of a murder/blood cult.

join the worm faction to be friendly :)

[tall bloom]

https://discord.com/channels/1303855380845301861/1476607292366393467

[inland quail]

Go to channels & roles, find looking for crew channels and select them so you can see them

[opaque notch]

In the game where you get a trillion guns and bags and heals from rankup that everyone commented on within the first couple weeks of release, you think isn’t enough?

[silver sorrel]

Tbh, I am not the greatest gamer out there, and I have lots of loot. Idk if I agree with this change you suggest. Interesting to think about though.

[plush kestrel]

SHUT THE FUCK UP

[hardy lantern]

Right down the road, can't miss it.

[icy hemlock]

I have pretty bad specs - GTX1660ti (6gb vram), 16gb ram and 5th gen i3. Never seen more than 40 fps on any graphical settings

[opaque notch]

Ur gettin assimilated into the corpovoid buddie

[cerulean quartz]

Let's do it

[mellow pivot]

Not playing too much is not an excuse.... When I asked if you have any experience with ranked you told me that you are a gold 2 and use lfg that is about it . To be fair I have no idea what gear you were using but those 3-4 parameters are what defines your success in the ranked game. From what I supposedly know you are above or at average lvl of success when it comes to a ranked mode

I don't want to use lfg and that is it. As simple as that

How is me not having a mic is a problem ? If no one in my team has a mic then why would I be the problem?

And again you are proving my point that this game requires a decent team to progress faster .

But back to the beginning, you have said that winning 1vs3 as a solo player at range of 50 meters against the prepared team is not that hard or it is not as rare as I make it out to be. Which is just wrong

[modest talon]

shut up before i kiss u

[wintry bough]

I mean in particular salvage. Gold salvage is way too restricted to get and already hard enough on fills. And the costs of upgrades are ridiculously high for purple and gold salvage.

[silver sorrel]

yeah those specs are kinda mid these days. I'd hit 32gb of ram if you can find a reasonable price.... but personally I would look into a motherboard+cpu upgrade, followed by like a 3080 TI or something.

[plush kestrel]

I'm so fucking sick of randoms...

[haughty marsh]

ive got 1660ti with i7 32 gb ram, running constant over 60 fps low-medium graphics. Might be a ram issue

[inland quail]

I get 40-50 fps on 4060 laptop 😭
On lowest settings

[cerulean quartz]

traxusmaxxing

[modest talon]

whats wrong mr Lord, what has thee's pantaloons in quite a knot

[mellow pivot]

You only need clearance 3 for the compiler lmao. Getting clearance 3 is very easy even if you have a bad spawn

[inland quail]

Found Lockheed-Martin employee

[opaque notch]

It’s not a sprint, it takes time. I do maybe 30 runs a week and get roughly 5-10 purple salvage without ever venturing beyond the 5k loadout value

[merry flame]

I get 50-60 on a 3060 laptop, on med settings

[plush kestrel]

I have been on a losing streak... for 3 FUCKING HOURS

[cerulean quartz]

I'm pregnant, sorry

[inland quail]

Don't kill me dude...

[silver sorrel]

might be time to take a break, come back later refreshed.

[modest talon]

you need to pump the breaks man, it's okay to get off and let yourself rest

[merry flame]

Genuine krill issue smh

[opaque notch]

Gold could be easier; but purple? Absolutely not. You’re all but guaranteed 1 to 2 purple salvage on the fucking beginner map with Intercept and lockboxes

[plush kestrel]

But I NEED the Arachne salvage

[royal geyser]

I get 86-102 with a 5070

[icy hemlock]

I heard the game is very CPU heavy, I'm thinking that might be the issue

[hardy lantern]

Would Traxus sell Toyota moon walkers to martian buyers in bulk?

[modest talon]

see look, i found the problem:

it sounds like ur forcing it

[merry flame]

oof

[inland quail]

🍤

[plush kestrel]

"Forcing it"?

[modest talon]

you don't need anything, ever

[haughty marsh]

ah could be. My cpu is an i7, i think 9700? but its also about 7 years old. I havent had issues with anything on marathon though

[inland quail]

Absoluely

[icy hemlock]

It being a laptop might be ur issue. Gaming laptops are notoriously bad with their cooling and it absolutrly destroys their performance

[inland quail]

yeah, but 40 fps and not even maxed out ram/cpu is strange imo

[haughty marsh]

when i had a laptop i genuinely had to buy a cooling stand for it to go on just so it didnt burn up/crash

[celest coyote]

Technically there is no official laptop support for marathon, at least as of launch, idk if that’s why

[plush kestrel]

I have 5 purple salvage items just SITTING THERE in my vault... If I don't get at least one faction sponsorship by the end of the season it will have been for nothing

[opaque notch]

I need a Recon cosplayer to show up at my door and demolish every bone in my body with crushing force

[silver sorrel]

Do game companies usually announce if their game will work on a laptop vs a PC? I feel like I've never seen this.

[haughty marsh]

yeah free kit outpost honestly. Purple salvage guaranteed in Red room, plus it can be found in the arsenals and strong boxes

[icy hemlock]

Hopefully I'll be able to get a job and afford an upgrade 😔, although tbh my fps is stable at least so I just got used to it. Game's not unplayable, just wish to see it at higher resolution and fps

[celest coyote]

I don’t know if that’s normal, but I remember reading the recommended specs and there was an addendum saying laptops weren’t officially supported but feel free to try it

[plush kestrel]

You honestly want me to go into outpost with a free kit?

[silver sorrel]

That is what us real ones do. Or we rook it.

[haughty marsh]

yeah definitely. I got my ram before it spiked in price, luckily. I was on 16 gb, but noticed it was maxxing out on most games i played. Once i upgraded that iw as in te clear

[glad cypress]

Nawww the volt thrower is insane 😭 I just melted a purple shield with a green volt and buddy had a airfield key and a gold back pack

I was just testing the gun out lmao

[hardy lantern]

V22 best gun ever

[plush kestrel]

I try Rooking, but every time I shout "friendly" I get fucking teamed

[royal geyser]

It has the fastest body shot ttk

[silver sorrel]

AFAIK Console runs it at 30-60 fps, unless I am mistaken. So you are chillin in that sense.

[glad cypress]

I’m stacking a few for cryo next weekend wtf

[inland quail]

https://help.marathonthegame.com/hc/en-us/articles/47626640740756-Marathon-PC-Performance-Guide

Have you had a look at this? I doubt that it will be of great help, but there's a chance

[haughty marsh]

yes? no cost to you, and many of the other teams are on free kits. You can sneak attack a better geared team than you by going in destroyed and waiting for them to enter pinwheel, or you can third party another fight. Id say 1/10 games I wipe the lobby with randoms and go from free kit to easily 10-20k loadout value

[royal geyser]

Beware, the bullets are slow and it doesn’t do headshot damage (also overheats fast)

[hardy lantern]

Did you ambush the dude or it was a face to face situation?

[tired jay]

Dude i fuckinf wish

[glad cypress]

I spawned air field and he tried doing the common rush from the right

[modest talon]

HOLY SHIT ITS @tired jay

[silver sorrel]

I shoot rooks on site unless I am already outnumbered, as a rook.

This ain't fuckin Arc Raiders bitch I am NOT your friend.

[opaque notch]

Voltrower doesnt headshot? That sounds misinfo

[icy hemlock]

Clean ur laptop! I had a similar issue with my old one. Even Half-life 1 would struggle. Then I cleaned out the dust from inside and it was good as new

[hardy lantern]

Fumble of the century

[plush kestrel]

Well, good for you. Glad lady luck is sucking your dick apparently

[tall bloom]

if ur playing everyday and ranking up once a day for 3 days and im playing 1 day of ranked and we’re the same rank that’s not the same
it’s not an excuse lmao idrc about rank i j play it because the people i kill have better loot then if i did a normal game

fair on not using lfg but then u cant complain about ur randoms
the only diff between lfg and crew fill is if somone doesnt have a mic or doesn’t have a good loadout i know before and dont have to play with them

NO ONE HAS A MIC BECAUSE ITS MIC BASED MATCH MAKING AND UR NOT USING A MIC
that’s the entire problem

atp u should solo queue ranked and play like a rook there’s a dude in here who’s gold 1 doing that

it’s not wrong bro it’s j not working for u
the goal shouldn’t be killing all 3 in a 1v3 it should be getting one maybe 2 and picking a teamate up
or keep picking at them until you can get all 3 but that’s way harder

if you use ur mic u can at the least tell ur teamates what to do
and because of mic matchmaking they would 😮 talk back and you could cordinate

tldr: i have no idea why your complaining your entire situation is self imposed

[tired jay]

It’s me yessssssssssssss he got mad at me that u tagged

[haughty marsh]

better to hide as a rook and pickup sloppy seconds. Odds are only one team survives, you can loot their kills or follow behind and loot the rooms they leave. They cant take everything after wiping a whole lobby, youll be able to pickup to gear/salvage that way

[glad cypress]

Yea I’ve played enough to know to w key that fight

[inland quail]

That's a good idea, thanks! Haven't cleaned it in a while

[long fog]

press "V" on your weapons and it tells you the headshot multiplier

[icy hemlock]

Oo! Not yet. I'll see to it once I'm home:3 for now I gotta finish my exams

[brisk sun]

Low settings doesn't equal better performance, the highest your settings, the more the GPU works, the lowest it is, the more the CPU works, plus to this, do clean your computer and balance your settings.

[opaque notch]

I’m on the sticks

[inland quail]

Good luck on exams

[hardy lantern]

It doesn't have a headshot multiplier

[humble depot]

i'm all done with the contracts, what do i even do now lol? it all feels aimless

[opaque notch]

Kill and loot bruther

[glad cypress]

I was using the prestige scar in cryo and enjoying it

If some one is sitting on a corner the bullets pull in to them and if they miss they ricochet off walls and it’s really good to prefire with

[haughty marsh]

i wouldnt say luck... I know im less geared than them, so i dont take fair fights. When I free kit, gotta be sneaky or annoying, not head to ehad. Shoot people in the back, join a fight late and cleanup before they recover, whatever you gotta do. Fight unfair so you dont have to get lucky

[silver sorrel]

I save up n run cryo, empty the vault a bit (or get rich), repeat.

[wintry bough]

It should take time yes. Just not as much as it does now. I'm not gonna be able to max out anything other than CyAc because of the purple and gold salvage costs.

[dark rampart]

Console runs it flawlessly at 60 fps with no drops ngl, obviously ppl want a 120 mode but thats not happening until they optimize the game for pc more

[humble depot]

my vault is already full tho 💔

[silver sorrel]

Cryo is such a fun map dude, I cannot wait for the next weekend already.

[inland quail]

I lowered setting so that less VRAM is used, because 8gb is not that much. CPU is not being used at 100 percent either on lowest or highest settings.

Seems like I really have to clean it up

[haughty marsh]

make ur own goals imo. Im trying to ge tthe archivist title now. You can go for titles, you can go for compiler if you havent killed it yet, you can try to compelte codex, or just fight other players for fun. You could even try ranked, but its not that fun imo

[tired jay]

@modest talon wwyd if ur man said he was playing in a trio and when u ask if its girls he says no its boys then u scroll upon a literal stream of him playing with a girl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and we have boundaries on this 😒😒😒

[glad cypress]

Kill the compiler

[silver sorrel]

Fish for more upgrades n salvage, or chill till next cryo.

[inland quail]

Spray n Pray

[humble depot]

it sounds like wayy too much of a grind for me ngl

[opaque notch]

Do it for (her) the love of the game; fill your pack with 40 ganglion

[modest talon]

#1 i love women

#2 id feel super sick to my fucking stomach, like id throw up

i feel for ya, @tired jay

[final crest]

@sterile vigil dms

[glad cypress]

The subroutines don’t reset

[wintry bough]

This is another thing. It's basically impossible in fills. Unless you get lucky with some madman who decided to bring a DNA card into fills

[tired jay]

yup im literally about to throw up on my computer

[tall bloom]

he’s cheating on u

[haughty marsh]

i dont go fills right into cryo, i do fills on outpost and then add good teammates as friends.

THen i play cryo with those people, and it goes way smoother than true random fill.

[tired jay]

this is happening rn btw yall

[inland quail]

Is it morally wrong to ask a friend that's good at the game to help with "complete all 7 cryo quests in a weekend" achievement and compiler runs?

[glad cypress]

I found good players by grinding solo for vault keys then asked people to match my keys

A month ago I didn’t think I’d be able to even attempt the compiler *this season through my own merit

[wintry bough]

And yet when I do that, they never contact me again 😭

[opaque notch]

Prolly drunk drive into an unrelated family of 5

[vestal wyvern]

bro in the last cryo weekend i fill with 3 dnas to do it (2 times got to compiler but they were so clueless to do it lule)

[tired jay]

im reaching that point

[wintry bough]

Isn't it, find this symbol, get in the bubble, shoot stuff, shoot compiler, repeat?

[tall bloom]

i’ve seen bro flirt w other girls in gen chat

[stable nacelle]

Does anyone know what Eccentric Salvage actually is?

[tired jay]

ur lying

[humble depot]

yeah, rn i am trying to get to level 100 so that i can get the final achievement

[crisp cloak]

Not at all. But it is a slog. And you know it.

[haughty marsh]

ah that sucks.. Id say use the lfg here, but people are so strict and lowkey annoying in there. Try joining / inviting the folks you add!
I add hella people but rarely actually invite them, but if they invite me i join for sure. Be the first to contact if they arent

[flat stratus]

it's definitely CPU or maybe RAM bottleneck

[tired jay]

do not play with me im gonna be sick

[rigid violet]

oh zip it

[wintry bough]

Oop someone got automodded

[crisp cloak]

That Vidmaster triumph is nuts. I haven’t even bothered to complete any of IDurandal’s quests yet.

[modest talon]

Kisses we love you don't do anything drastic

[inland quail]

I mean doing vaults are quite enjoyable, I like cryo. Even more so when I have a safety net so I don't die like a dum-dum

[vestal wyvern]

nah i delete my own mess

[tired jay]

im about to go off in the fucking twitch stream

[tall bloom]

i saw him n u flirting in gen chat n was cringing so hard
but saw him n another girl flirting n was like damn she getting played

[wintry bough]

For what??

[opaque notch]

Bot salvage (shell ID, obedience matrix)

[modest talon]

link us the twitch link us the twitch

[inland quail]

I think it's RAM tbh, 16gb isn't cutting it

[silver sorrel]

Complaining about fills is pretty silly to be honest. Fills generally suck in every game you play.

People who have figured "it" out tend to befriend the few cool/decent people they play with from fills or discords etc, and they then consistently call them up to run stuff rather than fill.

[tired jay]

proof?????? ur instigating

[rigid violet]

i didn’t read the conversation but i’m guessing you’re complaining about fills

[glad cypress]

check run clips rn lmao

[tired jay]

i literally will im losing my god damn mind

[haughty marsh]

Yeah solid idea. Its kind of "make your own goals" time until reset. I realllyyyy want that title but i cant find the synthsilk purple collectible on dire

[merry flame]

Literally everyone seems to be on the wonderful Dire Marsh map

[flat stratus]

it's not about RAM usage in GB's, it's about speed

[steady bronze]

god i feel old

[tall bloom]

it was smtime last week
i don’t have any proof tho lol maybe somone else here saw

[modest talon]

bro bro bro bro stop stop stop its usually funny but lets not troll here

[crisp cloak]

Oh of course. But it’s three goals.

• All subroutines.
• All IDurandal quests.
• And the compiler.

In one weekend.

It’s certainly fine to be carried, but that is arguably the hardest triumph in the game and you’re adding other things on top of it.

[rigid violet]

A.) make friends
B.) use LFG
C.) come to discord and complain

[wintry bough]

Not solely fills, just the ridiculous difficulty in which it takes to get to compiler in fills.

[stable nacelle]

Thank you! ffs this game is so vague with shit sometimes

[silver sorrel]

I'm probably older than you.

[merry flame]

D. All of the above\

[opaque notch]

How it feels to watch Baki Hanma while scrolling drama in Marathon gen chat 🔥 💙 🧨 🤯

[steady bronze]

i'm 44 today

[modest talon]

@tired jay we luv u :>

[humble depot]

because pretty much every contract needs you to be there

[inland quail]

He has all subroutines, so we can basically do vault 01 for quests and DNA and then just go kill it

[tired jay]

i should not be trolled rn i am very hashahahwhahahwhah losing my mind

[rigid violet]

if only there was a place where you could find like minded teammates

[crisp cloak]

Oh then it’s way easier.

[wintry bough]

Yes but LFG is just fills with extra steps. And frankly most of those posts are strict and suck anyway.

[opaque notch]

I believe hovering the blue/purple eccentric salvage will tell you it’s eccentric. But yeah, the game needs to tell you more about how lower level salvage counts for categorical salvage contracts.

[mellow pivot]

That is not how it works bro. You can spend more hours playing the game in 1 day than me in 3 days . Also ranking up in bronze is easier than in silver. Getting from gold to diamond is much harder than getting from bronze to gold.

You can't definitively conclude that you are much more successful than me in ranked because you lack critical data like: playtime,kit value, weapons used etc...

Again you are keeping larping, so say some absurd stuff : just shoot and change position and you win 1 vs 3....

Now you are trying to introduce shit load of unrelated arguments.

You are not winning 1vs3 in any game often, it is based on imperical evidence , why would you try to prove something so obvious wrong ? My point was that in a random fill you will end up in 1 vs 3 situations much more often than in premade team. And your solution to this is to use lfg which just means to stop random fill,bruh?

And this whole conversation started from me asking about definition of skill in this game....
Having friends or using lfg or grinding for meta gear to do well in ranked is a really lame skill cealing. I don't want to be good at farming salvage for grenades barter and I dont want to be good at searching for teams in lfg.

[golden harness]

Friends don't let friends go up into Cryo alone 🤠

[humble depot]

i am only doing this because i am one achievement away lol, otherwise i wouldn't give af, seems doable though

[silver sorrel]

Make friends via these fills on the rare chance you run into decent players. Or make friends here.

Bitching about fills is dumb as fuck and needs to stop though fr. It is no secret they blow in every game. This is not new.

Especially don't fill for endgame content in any game. If you do, don't expect auto wins, use it to look for good players at best.

[flat stratus]

I have only 16gb 3600mhz with very low timings and I get around 60-90 fps on Outpost on low settings because it's still CPU and RAM bounded

[tall bloom]

holy shit bro my main point was to use a mic

[stable nacelle]

Streamsnipe him. Assemble your crew of high-speed sociopaths and roll on him with your offworld kick-murder squad.

[crisp cloak]

Part of me wonders whether this game should have ranked at all.

[haughty marsh]

definitely both. Clock speed matters, but games these days including marathon eat ram GBs too.

[tired jay]

@modest talon do u support me losing my mind in the twitch stream or is that doing too much

[golden harness]

You gotta hunt down wall safes and pop key templates, that's your best bet

[inland quail]

My man, you have to elaborate. IIRC ddr5-5600 is basically the fastest ram you can reliably get

[steady bronze]

but no, the thing that makes me feel old isn't my age at the moment

[modest talon]

No, @tired jay. You have a super cool name and you should conduct yourself with utmost GRACE.

[tired jay]

If i wasn’t level 1 i would

[rigid violet]

skill in this game is understanding the psychology of fights and positioning

[wintry bough]

I made this point earlier. I do that, and then I'm never contacted again

[flat stratus]

yet I had any stutters or something so 16gb is more than enough for this game

[plush kestrel]

UUUUUUUUGGGGHHH

[tired jay]

There’s nothing graceful about the anger in me rn boy pls ur supposed to support me

[mellow pivot]

It doesn't make a game a solo friendly experience

[haughty marsh]

yeah levelling to 100 isnt terrible, you also get some gold rewards for it.

[hardy lantern]

Your profile picture fits this comment so well.

[modest talon]

i am supporting you, don't do anything rash. I'm serious.

[wintry bough]

And yes I made a post in LFG the other day about compiler. Literally just asking for someone with DNA and being somewhat decent. Absolutely zero replies.

[tall bloom]

ranked isn’t a solo experience

USE A MIC ITS A TEAM GAME

[opaque notch]

Make an alt and gloriously accuse with no repercussions

[mellow pivot]

So what would the pinnacle activity in this game be then ?

[rigid violet]

if you’re genuinely serious i can add you to a discord of people that farm compiler

[haughty marsh]

key templates probs the move. I ran wall safes on perimeter for ages, ended up finding all of what i needed in a key instead

[hardy lantern]

If the army instructor moves towards you run

[tired jay]

Do you think me doing that would be rash? I literally called and said who are u playing with he said no girls and two boys as im literally watching the stream of a girl

[golden harness]

I still have a single emotional support plushie despite being level 100

[flat stratus]

so the issue is with your CPU I guess

[inland quail]

They're so expensive though

[opaque notch]

U gotta bring the dna if you want ppl to run with randoms

[modest talon]

is it just them?

[mellow pivot]

Actually it is , but I was talking about the game in general

[haughty marsh]

fair enough, I upgraded from 16gb to 32 before this game came out because tarkov was maxxing out my 16gb

[plush kestrel]

I desire to not exist

[wintry bough]

I don't even have a subroutine

[tired jay]

It’s one other boy, a girl streamer and him

[rigid violet]

what are you asking

[opaque notch]

Go get those subroutines then, gotta hit the mines before getting the gems

[steady bronze]

i don't understand the issue

[haughty marsh]

yeah, easiest way to get them is cyac CARRI shop. shell IDs from bosses too, and they often drop a key themselves so you get a lil bonus

[mellow pivot]

Isn't it easy to get DNA cards ? I got like 4 of them from yesterday runs

[tall bloom]

brotha u gotta b restarted

solo player play solo

solo player in a team use mic make friends

easy

[silver sorrel]

Keep makin friends then. I got a ton and I am just some old dude who is decent at FPS, not the most insane player, but not utter dogshit either.

Make sure you are not the weakest link either. People will not want to play with people who:

1. Suck and never get better or try to get better.
2. Can't take criticism.
3. Whine a lot or bring the vibe down (this is big for a lot of people. If you are fun to be around, they will let some skill gaps slide)
4. Blame losses on everything but themselves. ("Oh we lost because of nade spam" should be "I need to play around the fact that people carry nades in cryo" etc).

[golden harness]

The reddit and other discords are your best bet. Vault 01 is also super easy once you have the hang of Cryo, and so far it's given me DNA keys 2 out of 2 times.

[inland quail]

Ryzen 9 7945HX

[haughty marsh]

ive only found 1 as well. I have all other archivist challenges, just need one more completion on dire. plushies or snythsilk, hard as hell to find tho

[wintry bough]

I would, maybe if people knew how to do vaults. And the one time I did get a subroutine, from 01. I lost it because I got fucked over by cryo Exfil by being basically inside the bubble and missed it by less than a second.

[rigid violet]

ur tripping i play with level 200s we will cry about every death we get 😂

[plush kestrel]

I hate my life

[tired jay]

Me too

[mellow pivot]

I am asking what is the endgame in this game according to your definition of skill. Getting a high rank in ranked or getting a high clearance in cryoarchives or having a high extraction rate ?

[sand rampart]

How do I have 245 hours already bro at least 24-48 of that has to be afk time

[stable nacelle]

Well good news for the long term: eventually after your life is over, everyone who knew you will also pass on. And at some point you’ll be thought of for the last time.

It will be as though you were never here at all.

[opaque notch]

Unrucky, go next run is all i can say

[haughty marsh]

you gotta get off the game and go to bed man... try again tomorrow but this game isnt everything, go for a walk outside in the sun

[silver sorrel]

Lowkey my RL homie I play with rages so hard, thankfully he spares fills/discorders from it because he knows it'll scare some off ahahaha

[plush kestrel]

At least we have something in common

[flat stratus]

with cut out frequencies because they needed to fit it in 65w limit or maybe higher like 100w? I would suggest you to never buy another laptop, they suck at games

[tired jay]

im about to go lose my mind now good luck yall

[plush kestrel]

I don't sleep

[steady bronze]

have fun yelling at someone for playing video games

[stable nacelle]

reading codex entries and trying to think of loadout options

[tall bloom]

slash his tires
3/4

[steady bronze]

no no not you sko you're fine

[tired jay]

im going in the stream

[rigid violet]

but tbh what i think sets apart us sweats from the rest is we’re willing to accept when we made a mistake and how we should change the way we approach fights, for example not pushing through chokes to avoid being insta downed by frag grenades etc etc

[wintry bough]

The game has a lot of luck based things that tend to "discourage" unlucky people. I happen to be one of those unlucky few. It sucks. Brutally.
@opaque notch

[plush kestrel]

I'm barely kidding, by the way. I have to drug myself just to get 3 hours

[dark rampart]

The only luck based thing that was pissing me off was finding a vault 6 key but then i got 3🫃

[rigid violet]

bro this game is not luck based at all, the only thing id say is rng that will effect your performance is you not getting clearance level 2 off spawn

[silver sorrel]

This comment here and your other messages complaining tells me a few things:
You don't take the initiative to make friends in game enough.
You complain a lot.
In that last message, you shifted the blame of personal failure and mistakes to luck.

These 3 things are red flags and have made me not want to play with you, personally, unless those change.

[steady bronze]

🙄

[haughty marsh]

aiiygatorz streamer name

[inland quail]

Stationary PC is ofc better choice, but there are reason why I had to resrot to laptop. I understand it's limitations, but even then 40 fps feels a bit low

[royal geyser]

It headshots but it has 0 headshot multiplier, used strider to make sure and yeah it does 0 extra damage for headshots

[hardy lantern]

What if getting all the cryo skins unlocked a rook skin that made him look vaguely like a compiler. Big green eye, maybe even a cap dangling on his back like those thingies on vandal's back. it would be so cool

[haughty marsh]

raid stream?

[pseudo bluff]

YES
Would make my dedicated time feel much more rewarding!

[stable nacelle]

I think the most off-putting thing about the game is how unfun most Priority Contracts are.

Like if you want easy access to free supplies by advancing the plotlines, you have to do a bunch of really stupid shit and it becomes progressively worse the higher level you are because you’re trying to do it in the middle of matches against other high-levels and their sweat loadouts.

None of them are actually fun to do, and oftentimes they’re a chore and an absolute slog to get through

[wintry bough]

How is it not luck based when your teammates could either be the best players you've ever seen or be the guy that thinks assassins Invis is completely silent.

[haughty marsh]

yeah i thought so lol. tarkov its a direct link, level up vendors by doing quests. Gives a reason to do quests, and gives a good reward for level ups

[mellow pivot]

You can play ranked in solo and as I mentioned before I was talking about the game itself. Using a microphone doesn't make the whole experience easier for solo players....

Your statement: "solo player play solo" , "solo player in a team use mic make friends" which would mean that solo players can play both in a team and in solo mode. Which would mean that ranked is also an experience for a solo player . You know before trying to prove me wrong first you need to define things correctly because some of your statements look contradictory

[glad cypress]

lol this gold reinforced shield I just got off this guy is on its last trace 💀

Whoever kills me with it is gonna be disappointed

[steady bronze]

more like barkov

arf arf

[eager forum]

according to some people here apparently everything is perfect in the game and the issue is with players. New way of blaming the world, after blaming people for hating the game without any reason, and after blaming people for playing a game that is not for them (go play another game)
Some of the very toxic people left true, but I wonder when will finally people realize that even if the game is good for them maybe things can be improved for making the game good for a larger audience

[silver sorrel]

Not everything is left to luck in this game. You control most of how the outcome of a match plays out for you.

This should be one of your red flags for people not hitting you up to play again. The other stuff I listed could be an issue as well but I can only speak from what was said here.

[rigid violet]

if you think fills is luck based why don’t you try get rid of that ‘unlucky’ factor and find people to play with lmao

[dark rampart]

Because you can choose your teammates instead of filling all the time and not having to take that chance, just gotta find the right ppl man

[hardy lantern]

I think contracts awarding items that you can't purchase yet would be better. For example getting a blue shield from nucal standard contracts after level 20. So people that don't have the blue shield upgrade still have access to blue shields.

[steady bronze]

extraction shooter but everyone is a dog

not a dog with guns, you're just an ordinary dog

it isn't actually a shooter

[glad cypress]

So are all 3 of the prestige implants lol

[haughty marsh]

id kinda like a mix maybe? like more reward vendor wise for quests, but some specific things from the upgrades too

[wintry bough]

Omfg do I need to repeat every God damn point I make

[sand rampart]

you will never escape space station 13 feem.

[rigid violet]

i’ve lowkey just realised i’m being baited

[steady bronze]

who are you

[tall bloom]

r u playing ranked no fill or fill

cause earlier ur saying my teamates dont have mics why should i

meaning ur playing in a team
USE UR MIC

[haughty marsh]

yeah something like this or something else in between, some way to make contracts more valuable without losing value of upgrades

[mellow pivot]

They are just larping , they simply don't like to engage with criticism, which is fair to some extent

[dark rampart]

🎣

[sand rampart]

not nearly as notorious as you are, but glad to see you here pal

[modest talon]

@tired jay be chill, homegurl -- trust me, ive been in the same position. come talk to me in DMs

[eager forum]

it is a hardcore BR with features of an extraction shooter. Because maps are too small and friction is too much. No way to play stealth if not good in PvP, get some good loot and exfil

[hardy lantern]

oof

[wintry bough]

Ffs. If they let me play cryo solo or even make solo a little more enjoyable maybe I wouldn't feel like such shit.

[inland quail]

What would be fun contracts you think?
Do you think players should be reward regardless of their performance in the game?

[mellow pivot]

You said that ranked is not a solo experience which is just wrong based on your own statements. Have you tried to stop larping ?🤔

[steady bronze]

no it's a bunch of dogs in the dog park

what are you talking about

[haughty marsh]

theres a game out called escape from duckov...
its still a shooter, but its all ducks

[glad cypress]

im gonna die laughing with this kit knowing who ever loots my body is just gonna see them dissolve

[flat stratus]

I think priority contracts is fun because I've seen the contracts in Arc Raiders and I don't want same boring easy shit

[plush kestrel]

Not even games are achievable anymore

[modest talon]

@viscid anchor :-)

[stable nacelle]

I honestly don’t care to get the blue shield upgrade because by the time I got to the point where I could get the upgraded materials for it, every rank up with NuCal was giving me purple shields.

[steady bronze]

i guess

[hardy lantern]

At least the dissolved value will be around 10k.

[tall bloom]

OMG ITS A TEAM EXPERIENCE EVEN IF UR QUEING SOLO HOW ARE U SO STUPID

USE UR MIC IN GAME

[peak herald]

I find that anger playing a game comes from a source of frustration at your own inability to change a situation. I was a hardcore rager for YEARS, until one day I had a mini mental breakdown and finally had a moment of clarity. Once I reached that point I was able to finally start pushing through my plateaus as a player and touching leaderboards in games. While it did take some effort to stop the response to rage when something went wrong, I began to notice things little by little that kept pushing me in the right direction. Games that I had previously deemed unwinnable were able to be turned, for instance, when previously they would have just boiled down to a flame war. Refusing to engage in a flame war would have a similar effect. Then I began to develop the clarity to figure out why something was happening and do things about it. If a player is not performing the way they should, I would take a second and observe them and figure out what they were having issues dealing with, and then prioritize taking care of the problem without them ever knowing.

[steady bronze]

did the person who said they were older than me really just never respond after i said my age

[golden harness]

They could smooth out some of the contracts but I'd be lying if I said finishing Nona's stupid "hit every single POI in Dire Marsh after running specifically to the lab and quarantine" didn't genuinely feel like surviving a death march

[modest talon]

you're the oldest one here, pops

[bronze vigil]

🚬

[sand rampart]

aren't you nearly 50 now? fuck dude

[silver sorrel]

Unless you are queueing as rook or in explicit solo-no-team queue, this game is not a solo experience. Ranked as far as I know requires teams of 3, no? If so, you should be prepared to work with your team to win.

[tall bloom]

@mellow pivot ur a loser goodnight

[bronze vigil]

i bet i'm older than u lol. great pfp

[steady bronze]

hella

my right middle finger has had trigger finger for nine months

@sand rampart i'm actually 44 today

[hardy lantern]

I was in a similar situation. Reached nucal vip and that gave me to material for finishing the upgrade. Althought I am kind of buns in pvp so I sometimes run out of purple shields.

[haughty marsh]

vandal + the cardio boost it gives made it almost bearable.. Also got lucky that my randoms helped me out

[sand rampart]

holy shit happy birthday

[silver sorrel]

My b if that was me, I may have missed it. You in your 40s though? If so, you got me beat my b haha

[steady bronze]

thanks gramps

[stable nacelle]

I don’t want them to be boring or easy. I want them to be interesting and have more depths than some variation of the same stupid shit in the middle of a high-stakes PvP match.

Right now it’s just basically:

• Fetch quests
• Exfil with something
• Bait a strong enemy and mug him and extract with his wallet
• Scan something and exfil
• put something in a DCON

[sand rampart]

i guessed 46 so i guess my memory isn't that fucking bad lmao

[steady bronze]

i think that's mso

[peak herald]

Oh man you're older than I am. I'm turning 40 next year.

[bronze vigil]

happy barfday. i'm 45. in the game-o-verse, we're walking mummies

[haughty marsh]

hey you're forgetting the best ones:

RUNNA.... WRITE UESX ON 5 WALLS IN DIRE MARSH, IN A SINGLE RUN

[cold stump]

you're ignoring the special locked rooms that contracts make or the horde events

[south cedar]

can you give an example of an interesting quest with more depth

[modest talon]

getting some milk

[steady bronze]

here's to having steam accounts older than most gamers

[tired jay]

I did it

[plush kestrel]

Postal 2

[hardy lantern]

I wonder if escort mission could be possible in a game like this? Like a convoy event but instead of bots you are the one protecting it.

[peak herald]

Kill 10 PMCs with a shotgun while wearing a scav vest and a ushanka on customs.

[wintry bough]

Literally just had a fill crew that was so ungodly hesitant that someone got behind them and they both died. I got hit by all 3 shortly after. FUCK

[sand rampart]

last i heard of mso was during the tgstation coup lol. i burned out after my friends on bagil stopped playing

[haughty marsh]

Traxus quest: Runner, we need to test our M77 rifle to ensure it is up to quality standards.

Please eliminate # enemies using this weapon

[dusky locust]

Put ten balls into a container, then stand on a ring while chanting the lyrics to Poker Face and drawing 3 alien symbols

[bronze vigil]

i wanna draw weiners on the walls in game bungie let me

[mellow pivot]

You literally said that a solo player can play in solo mode and a random fill. If an individual is defined as a solo player then everything he is engaging with is a part of his experience....

Just like in the real world there are experiences that are experienced by a society and experiences that are experienced by an individual but it doesn't mean that they can't co-exist. Sorry bro it is not my fault that you are using wrong definitions of words or concepts to make an argument 😭

[plush kestrel]

Sometimes I wish I could just go to sleep and never wake up again

[silver sorrel]

I'd drop whatever suggestions you got in the feedback channel tbh. I personally liked the prio contracts because it was hard to get done, but I'd be down to see more and different stuff there as well.

[haughty marsh]

sounds like a setup to me...

[mellow pivot]

Define a solo player

[steady bronze]

bungie let me play yakety sax in an onos rush while spraying anime girl tags on the walls of the base

natural selection boys

[cold stump]

we have those

[dusky locust]

my assassins dying in the first 5 seconds

[glad cypress]

Atleast the most easy quest make u click more buttons than mixtape

[bronze vigil]

the quest where you scan fungus on Perimeter had a great audio file and quest feel to it. i dug finding the Dr like you do in East Wall

[hardy lantern]

You forget about the "have both your legs and your head blacked"

[north latch]

U doing OK my guy?

[plush kestrel]

No

[haughty marsh]

she deleted ur chat fast as hell tho dam

[peak herald]

Eat a jar of mayo and sit in a bush for 10 minutes.

[tired jay]

They banned me too quick

[wintry bough]

I just wish most of them weren't "all in one run" fetch quests.

[steady bronze]

i read his weird letter

i'm glad i avoided all that

[flat stratus]

I think they can add something like that in the future, it would be nice

[pure solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/rook-rook-marathon-marathon-rook-marathon-the-game-marathon-game-gif-12848807306159392323

[glad cypress]

Unfortunately that’s what we are as runners

[mellow pivot]

I am a loser for being competent in proofs ? Yes I am a very big loser for doing my homework. Thanks bro,didn't know that

[tired jay]

She’s weird as fuck. I didn’t even get to say what i wanted to say and now he’s blowing up on me i don’t give a fuck

[steady bronze]

jeff vandermeercore

[haughty marsh]

with specific weapons? i dont remember any but i could be wrong. I liked the guy's idea to have escort tasks. I also like the MIDA final quest, the protect one that also makes MIDA yell across the whole map. THat feels unique imo

[north latch]

You lose all your gold loot in a run, or just having a hard time in general

[sand rampart]

yeah it was insane. tg has been dead to me for years at this point so it was just another drama meltdown in a once beloved community 😔

[tired jay]

He deactivated his shit i can’t even @ him now

[plush kestrel]

Bit of both

[haughty marsh]

Runner... Eliminate 5 other runners per map with a headshot with the longshot from 100m away runner... in a single raid

[cold stump]

we have ones that tell you to use weapon types, specific weapons is too constricting

[wintry bough]

True. But like, give me more defend area quests or something. Not just "grab this, go here, grab this, get out"

[silver sorrel]

"Unless you are queueing as rook or in explicit solo-no-team queue, this game is not a solo experience."

So basically if you are not queueing into crew fills, ie rook or solo-no-team queue, like I said above.

If you get put into a team, then it is a team dynamic instead. The more you are willing to work with your team, the better your outcomes will be.

[pure solstice]

wait wut

[hardy lantern]

You dare slander the perfection that is mixtape? Calling Larry Fink to make you learn inclusion.

[tall bloom]

brotha i j finished a class in proofs neither of us are doing proofs rn

USE UR MIC IN GAME WHEN U PLAY W OTHER PLAYERS
OR PLAY SOLO
OR J STOP COMPLAINING

[south cedar]

but not before running to quarantine with the bio-research synthesized sparkleaf

[stable nacelle]

something that has a dynamic effect on the rest of the map.

The MIDA one where you hack the broadcast in Outpost and start spamming propaganda is an example. It’s minor, and pretty annoying, but it can also get obfuscate people’s audio cues and mess with the flow of PVP if it is distracting you from listening to footsteps.

[steady bronze]

if the dynamic between you and the boy is that you're worried that he's playing vidya with girls and also that he's lying to you about playing vidya with girls, then that's never gonna be a comfy time

[north latch]

Fair fair. My advice, do a rook run and just keep trying, you'll hit the command wing and exfil with the motherload eventually

[bronze vigil]

stealth addition of an Arachne quest where you pick up Charter's dry cleaning. [in one run]

[sand rampart]

i agree with the above guy keep rooking and you'll become a god eventually

[steady bronze]

assert: your jacket is now dry

[cold stump]

there's like 10 contracts that change the map for everyone

[plush kestrel]

I've been trying that for the past hour and a half. I'm about ready to choke myself

[bronze vigil]

Outpost is sweat af this weekend

[tall bloom]

@mellow pivot again ur a loser goodnight

[jaunty bobcat]

holly smokes the solo queue is so taking so much time now

[crimson oracle]

oh i forgot to tell you that i was right again that this game will go down.

[glad cypress]

I have fun on outpost solos

[steady bronze]

assert: that haircut looks good on you

[wintry bough]

I would like to enjoy the game by myself. Solos as it is, is ok, but people are ratty and scummy to the point that I can't help but blame the nature of the game. It could use some work on the fun factor too, I like tension, but I don't like when tension overrides fun.

[hardy lantern]

Assert: You must not forget the milk.

[jaunty bobcat]

5m already, button still didnt disappear

[brisk sun]

You got a point, but it's unfortunately the demise of many extraction shooters because it's meant to be this "Do this and get paid quickly" reward, I feel like there should be more quests when you do things which affect the world and the things surrounding you, in a way where it starts an event of sorts which you can go through, just like compiler.

[stable nacelle]

and again, all of it is just sort of minor shit.

And in almost all of them, you’re still doing some kind of variation of a fetch quest in order to activate it.

[silver sorrel]

Extraction shooters in solo lobbies are generally like this. I'm cool with it personally, but I can see why someone has a different preference.

[steady bronze]

assert: you should grow out your bangs

[north latch]

If you choke yourself now, you'll never have the satisfaction of being the rook choking the joy out of a premade with a well placed claymore

[peak herald]

I was going to make fun of you but honestly requesting tasks/contracts in extraction shooters to have some form of impact on the maps isn't a bad idea. It IS cool when the Mida thing happens on Outpost, but my only worry would be that if it was more common it wouldn't be as cool to hear Gantry babbling nonsense every other raid. Either way, probably not where the dev team's priorities are at right now but still a better idea than most of what gets posted here.

[haughty marsh]

this may be because i come from tarkov and that basically means i hate having fun, but using a specific weapon is the least constricting. Theres quests in that game that require a specific gun, on a specific map, while wearing specific gear, and you have to get headshots.

This game could have as simple as; use this weapon to test it for us

or Kill # of this enemy type to show UESC we dont like them

or, use this shell to do x y z to test it out

All of those work lorewise for a specific faction, and differ at least slightly from what we have

[cold stump]

they literally change the geometry of the map in areas where people fight as soon as you load in

[bronze vigil]

2 mines in the same spot will down a purple shield player.

[plush kestrel]

Fuck claymores, they suck

[north latch]

Nevermind, I'm going to choke you out myself now

[wintry bough]

I'm generally ok with solos because my skill isn't either hindered or outclassed. I'm relying on myself and that's it. All I have to do is watch where someone else could be.
Now if only I could have the full game experience like that

[bronze vigil]

🎷 🫃

[hardy lantern]

We need a nucal quest that makes the player fuck with the anomaly that results in toxic rain like it's the heat cascade.

[south cedar]

don't do it, they will explode

[peak herald]

That's 1 contract, and that specific one makes me so angry, because I always just walk up to the vehicle at the end of the river and wait for a free kill because I know someone is walking straight there.

[cold stump]

we have specific enemy contracts for commanders, elites, and recruits

[haughty marsh]

runner... go to bo research with a self revive. Go to quarantine and put the self revive bio-chain itno the inector. Inject yourself and it will literally KILL YOU. REvive and then kill 5 runners to test the effects

[plush kestrel]

Please do

[brisk sun]

freaks in main

[cold stump]

i dont even know which one you're talking about because theres like 10

[slate forge]

how goes it with marton tonight? 🌃

[silver sorrel]

Most fights in solos are someone getting the jump on someone else ye. Less room for error. Very new player friendly if they can be patient and rat it up.

[peak herald]

Can you list 3?

[plush kestrel]

No, I'm just suicidal

[north latch]

I was kidding, I'd never stain my hands by touching a claymore hater (jk)

[flat stratus]

the only thing I miss in Marathon is those moments when you see people doing quest and you can tell which one like in Tarkov when you saw a player with shotgun wearing Ushanka who hanging out in Dorms. I know there's a few moments of this in game but it's so rare

[stable nacelle]

that’s what I’m saying.

What if a priority contract made it so there was just wide scale UESC reinforcements on every POI? Kind of a stupid example, but it would be something that has widescale consequences for everybody in the match with your crew.

[peak herald]

That sounds like an event

[hardy lantern]

Suit side all? What if just partially?

[steady bronze]

i asked someone if they liked jazz earlier when they were being bad at posting and i got told i was being non sequitur

and i was thinking like

i could teach you but i'd have to charge

[glad cypress]

There’s been a couple times recently where I was gonna kill some one then noticed they were doing a quest so I left them alone lol

[cold stump]

quarantine lasers, algae ponds tunnels being locked + tick nests, scorch warden area changes geometry, exclusive lockdown at anomaly, drone wing having destroyed wing mechanics

[plush kestrel]

REALLY NOT IN THE MOOD, MAN

[wintry bough]

I generally don't have to rat either. I just be quiet and listen for sounds. If I hear even a footstep, I'm going to look that way. My aim is good, my positioning is situated with where I'm at, and I'm generally playing either Vandal, Recon, or Triage, so 2-3 times I have at least one advantage in either movement or information.

[cold stump]

complex has a trap room that changes the middle of the poi for a traxus contract

[hardy lantern]

🥺

[haughty marsh]

maybe im losing it, i just dont remember these. Maybe its because they were actually fun and not annoying, so i dont think about them as much.

I remember the: get a beacon and call in a commander, then kill him for his credentials that you have to do like 3 times for mida.

And the repettive dire quests got super old. It was always :GO bio, then go quarantine, then go here. Just over and over again the same exact rotation/locations

[silver sorrel]

@mellow pivotbut yeah hopefully my last reply helps. Good luck homie

[bronze vigil]

someone did a MIDA quest i haven't gotten to on Outpost earlier, and it involved the whole place getting mad loud af and MIDA blaring propaganda over the intercoms. omfg it was so many different alert sounds and belowing slogans and it was a lot to cope with lol

[peak herald]

Ok fair enough, you are right.

[north latch]

Real talk dude if your being legit you'd have better luck with a hotline than a marathon discord channel of all things, for your sake

[tired jay]

@indigo gorge now this guy just tried to come flirt in my dms seeing i just lost my man my life is a movie

[cold stump]

there's like 2 contracts that even lock the command wing room under certain conditions

[north latch]

Huh

[silver sorrel]

" I just be quiet and listen for sounds."

This is ratting. But yeah that is the play in solo lobbies. I love it a bit too much haha

[mellow pivot]

So you are a solo player for as long as you have no team ? But if you are random fill and your team dies and disconnects....you are left alone without any benefits of the team which means you become a solo player in a random fill game. So based on your own statements I am correct for saying that random fill is a part of solo experience....
There are cases where your teammates can leave the game at the start of the match...

I personally dont think your definition of a solo player is accurate but even then you can't deny that an individual who is a part of a social structure can act in isolation which would make his experience vastly different to experience of others in his group

[bronze vigil]

yeah, dude's right, if you need to talk to a pro, pick up the phone. we're all goof bags here.

[peak herald]

I wasn't considering the minor ones but now that I think about it there ARE a lot of those. I've gotten screwed due to the force fields at algae pond before.

[plush kestrel]

No matter how many joys I experience in life I still cannot escape the constant mental agony inside of me. And those experiences will never change the fact that none of my "friends" actually give a shit about me

[wintry bough]

Ratting is sitting in one spot. I walk. I'm slow, but I'm not a sitting duck.
Sometimes I hide but not too often.

[steady bronze]

did they really invent a pejorative term for "listening to audio cues the developers put in the game"

[bronze vigil]

have you tried binaural beats?

[peak herald]

That's ratting lmfao. Sitting in 1 spot is just run of the mill camping.

[humble depot]

command wing is not always locked?

[plush kestrel]

Yes, but they only work when I'm high

[tired jay]

What’s confusing

[hardy lantern]

Time dialation due to the anomaly on dire that makes the recall window shift by minutes would be funny. You load in then ONI goes straight to 5 minutes left to exfil but when the clock is on 2 minutes 10 extra minutes gets added

[wintry bough]

Maybe I'm confusing ratting with camping.

[flat stratus]

YES I saw that shit

[brisk sun]

Absolutely see your point here and I agree, I had a bad experience on ARC for this reason, the game just plays the same fucking quest over and over again and I just don't care.

When it comes to Marathon, the great part about it is that some quests are exactly like me and you want, and most others aren't. Fortunately for me the incredible world building and the codex stuff at least fill that gap, because in ARC I barely understood what the fuck was going on in the plot.

[bronze vigil]

you're playing stealth like me. i do not sit still often. i hide by never being in one spot.

[cold stump]

the entire wing is always locked because of outpost's mechanics, but certain contracts can add extra security in the last room with the commanders specifically

[atomic current]

I remember seeing launch day steam charts and thinking that the game wouldn’t die but it’s just gone down and down

[peak herald]

Ratting is creeping around in the shadows and being silent. Unseen/unheard, like a rat IRL.

[plush kestrel]

Why can't I just be normal

[humble depot]

that quest made me want to pledge my allegiance to MIDA permanently (it was a pain to do the quest itself tho)

[mellow pivot]

Idk bro as someone who finished class in proofs you should know that contradiction leads to rejection of the statement. I am not saying you are absolutely incorrect but your definition of a solo player lead you to a contradiction

[cold stump]

the sekgen contracts are unique enough to garner infamy among people

[steady bronze]

being aware of the position of your quarry and moving around them to take advantage of them is literally what cats do when they hunt

not rats

[wintry bough]

Fair enough I guess. Then yeah ratting is the play. I just don't play assassin. Might as well be a detriment.

[fresh raptor]

"ehm actually"

[haughty marsh]

@viscid anchor ♿️

[steady bronze]

except it's true

[sterile tinsel]

Yeah but if you lobby wipe it should waste time from gathering items from events. Others will just get to them first

[glad cypress]

I was just sitting in the top part of airfield on outpost where the cad can spawn waiting for the time to go down so I can use a keycard and a gold shield player just walked in starting looting and become the easiest come up I’ve had in this game 😭

Just started that game with a green volt thrower

[steady bronze]

"ratting" doesn't even make sense for literally using audio cues explicitly and loudly foleyed by the dev team to hunt people

[atomic current]

@fresh raptor explain your point of view on how I am wrong?

[bronze vigil]

oh my garf they are so annoyingly brutal lol

[peak herald]

The problem with ratting is that it's technically the smartest way to play the game, but the slow pace and lack of gunfighting winds up stunting your growth as a player. It also makes you progress way slower than other people with the same amount of play time.

[fresh raptor]

you are just wrong tbh

[sterile tinsel]

Chat, I have thought!!!!!!!! I feel like this salvage idea would go over well with the community and encourage a lot more looting and a lot better pvp funneling

[silver sorrel]

If you start in a team, and they die and disconnect, you are now in a solo dynamic for sure. It started as a team dynamic though, don't forget that. In order to prevent your team from dying as best as you can, you'd want to work with your team before something like that happens.

Can't deny that while you have a team, it is not a solo game haha.

Not sure why you are splitting hairs on the definition of a solo player, but I sure hope you are trying to work together with your team mates when you fill into a crew. It will work out better for you and your team if you work together.

[hardy lantern]

Ratting should be what you said but with added use of cheesey spots of the map. Being stealthy shouldn't be considered rat behavior by default

[haughty marsh]

imo theyre unique initially, then repetitive.

bring tick to bio. bring biochain to quarantine + some other ingredient. Do something, then extract.

same locations, basically same thing everytime with one different step at the end

[atomic current]

You would make a great politician

[steady bronze]

what kinds of cheese are on tau ceti iv

[stable nacelle]

Also, the locked rooms are just a goofy red forcefield in certain buildings/laser tripwires that advertise that if I wait around here long enough, I can ambush somebody if I want to be a dickhead.

And the horde events are barely an inconvenience. One destroyer ult with the right Cores will just murderfuck the entire thing.

it’s not really dynamic missions and the changes are pretty surface level

[fresh raptor]

I already am one!

[hardy lantern]

That's the neat thing, it doesn't matter who gets to the items first.

[mellow pivot]

Bro it is a morning for me.

[bronze vigil]

maybe its that there's ratting, and then there's camping. they can overlap, but not the same thing. i always move, always listen, always watch line of sight and use cover. in solo anyway, but the habits to keep hidden carry over to multi some

[steady bronze]

condolences to your friends and family and for their future grief

[wintry bough]

True. I'm not too concerned with growth because I'm good at the game generally. But only when I only have to take care of myself. This is why when a team I play with has good synergy, I can enjoy several runs without feeling like everything is just turning on me. In solo I don't have to worry about all that

[cold stump]

those arent the infamous ones

[glad cypress]

Liquid cheese

[fresh raptor]

Condolences to your tax dollars

[tall bloom]

or proof by contradiction

ie statement being ranked is a solo experience

my statement that your saying contradicts that is
solo player in team use mic
by definition when your in a team the experience of the match is shared and not just solo

qed

also bro no way ur falling back on an erm actually 🤓
once u realise ur wrong

and no way i keep replying
to ts like ur j baiting me at this point

[steady bronze]

joke's on you i've been a NEET since the ptsd

[atomic current]

I love sending my tax dollars to people that hate me yay

[hallow crystal]

#lfc-dire-marsh for legendary boss

[silver sorrel]

You can rat while moving. The idea is to play silently and get the jump on people who let their position get discovered first.

[leaden birch]

beautiful spaces

i love the effect i've had on people this year

[steady bronze]

i have however paid a ridiculous amount of taxes in my now likely dead career

[peak herald]

Nobody disparages anyone (unless they are mad) about someone creeping up for an ambush or trying to keep their noise level down. Rats are the ones who hold their crouch button for 25 minutes without letting go, and make no attempt to even verify if the area they are in is safe or not.

[glad cypress]

which warden drops vault 5 again

Tox?

[wintry bough]

Here's a good way to explain how I feel.
I want the game to have a team aspect that feels good to play, and it generally does.
But I also want the game to be enjoyable when I'm playing by myself. The full game

[mellow pivot]

Depends, if I will in Cryo I dont work together with them unless they are following me in which case they are working together with me. But I do try to work with my random fill teammates on other maps and obviously in ranked

[bronze vigil]

garfzzzzzzzzzzzz

[cold stump]

so dynamic choices depending on deducing the contract that other people have are surface level?

if you've ever been in a fight in one of the contract pois youll know how much it messes with rotations

[atomic current]

Yes?

[peak herald]

Yes

[tall bloom]

literally only seen u three times in here

once flirting w ur mans 🤮 in gen chat

today arguing about pve and then seeing u crash out over ur mans playing w a girl

[steady bronze]

have you tried the lasagna

it's my favorite

[glad cypress]

I need like 20 of em to farm dna keys 😭

[haughty marsh]

oh, which ones are?

[wintry bough]

Sort of. I just get to where I wanna go. I still shoot bots, but other than that it's just trying not to be excessive like squads is.

[steady bronze]

that is a different person

[hardy lantern]

Outpost has red room, tox warden for dna card farm keys and sometimes the convoy. Man the other maps really don't hold a candle.

[silver sorrel]

If you want to take the risk of "My way or the highway" in cryo, go for it man haha. I hope I don't get filled into one of your groups if that is the case. I do prefer to work as a team.

[dark rampart]

Just farm vault 1s and if you get one do the dna in the same run🫃

[glad cypress]

Vault 1 almost never has dna but vault 5 always does

[stark current]

Legit was thinking thats a my way or the highway mentality he has there

[tall bloom]

LMAO THERES MULTIPLE IN HERE I THOUGHT IT WAS J ALT

[peak herald]

I've just given up on playing this game solo. My first 250-300 hours played were solo. I did all contracts solo and nearly VIP'd all factions solo. I can't do it anymore, the game is just not balanced for it yet. I would rather take fill teammates.

[atomic current]

I don’t think this game will even see 30k players again

[cold stump]

the map marker and the anomaly ones

[dark rampart]

I get one like 50% of the time ngl, that or just take other peoples keys and do em

[steady bronze]

no they act and type pretty differently so i suspect they're different individuals

[glad cypress]

Idek how many times I’ve done vault 1 atp

I started doing vault 1 and 2 at the same time lol

[wintry bough]

Right. If it was more enjoyable I would play it more. But in classic Bungie fashion, it's sadly an afterthought.

[peak herald]

That's a pretty insane take. If we don't break 30k concurrent on S2 launch the game is probably cooked.

[steady bronze]

i can't sleep, i might as well go play vidya

fml

[north latch]

Kiss kay no way, I thought you retired or somthing

[crisp cloak]

Indeed. Solo is fun and can be very rewarding, but the game was designed for trio play with solo mode being less prioritized and duos being permanently added next month.

[modest talon]

WE ARE SO BACK, BOYS!!!! GOLD 3

[atomic current]

Reddit is next door

[tall bloom]

sherlock holmes over here

[tardy dirge]

is it ok to act friendly, but kill on site

[wintry bough]

I hope duos has a fill mode. The less I have on my mind the better I am.

[haughty marsh]

the anomaly ones are cool and unique. The map marker is just like the other biochain ones, with a dofferent final step (and an annoying final step at that)

[hardy lantern]

That's just inasne luck, I done around 14 vault 1s and 6 vault 2s and yet to see one dna card.

[steady bronze]

i have a reddit account but i've barely ever used it

i'm not really a fan

sorry

[stark current]

Yes

Some will hate you for it but yes it’s ok

[peak herald]

Yeah, you're teaching the person you are killing a valuable life lesson.

[dark rampart]

Luck issue🔥

[stable nacelle]

at a high enough level, every rotation feels like a shitshow.

Early on, maybe after the wipe, these might actually feel like a meaningful modifiers, but really anything after like level 60+ when you are consistently fighting people with blue equipment at a minimum, but mostly purple, then none of that shit actually has much of an impact

[north latch]

S2 probably isn't big enough of an update yet honestly, idk how much new stuff night Dire marsh will have

[steady bronze]

i think i have like five posts or something

[tall bloom]

u prob won’t cause that dude doesn’t use a mic and if u like teamwork i assume u do

[tardy dirge]

😼

[dark rampart]

That or your teammates are stealing them

[hardy lantern]

I will stick a straw in you and take all your luck. Your pot of gold is mine!

[haughty marsh]

runner skins for the skin god, arachne

[modest talon]

Ngl, as a diehard fan of Marathon, Night Marsh is giving me bad vibes

[glad cypress]

I did get an alien alloy out of vault 2 tho if I remember right so that was pretty crazy

[peak herald]

Half the players will come back simply for the first week when everyone is on an even playing field. It's a great draw for current players to get their friends to give the game a try, and people who are also on the fence about the game usually go in when it's wipe + discount. New shell + new systems + duo queue + whatever else they will be adding also.

[cold stump]

bro what are you talking about did you just call the concept of rotations in a pvp game a shitshow

[rose warren]

bro i swear crew fill ranked has the most tarded players in history

[steady bronze]

i only made that account because a company i worked for in like 2013 put up a snarky tech company billboard and my boss "organically" tried to make it go viral

it didn't work

[north latch]

I mean, I'm sure they'll add 'something' maybe add some horror elements and new enemies, we just don't know anything about the map yet other than 'it's at night'

[dark rampart]

Cant wait to run vault 6 for 20 purple shields🔥

[vital pivot]

On a map where at any given point a team can open a door and be there or even wrap around and get behind you this is the worst way to play you may aswell just plead for solo queue at that point and hope they give it you

[modest talon]

maybe a bug that picks players up and carries them away, idk

[peak herald]

Last time I did vault 6 I looted 3 gold shields out of a single cache

[glad cypress]

Every clip I’ve seen of it ppl get golds but when I ran it we fr only had enough time to grab the sub and get out

[silver sorrel]

Mics do help, that is for sure. I haven't had that argument for more than 20 years to be honest. I don't spend time trying to convince people of something obvious.

The mental gymnastics of those types of people are pretty incredible. Exhausting to try to talk them out of it.

[north latch]

That'd be cool honestly, I just really hope they lean into more interesting enemies with the map

[peak herald]

The guy who grabbed the sub in my run missed final exfil 😩

[modest talon]

aye, the sub is worth more than all the golds

[steady bronze]

one of my jobs i ended up making about a dozen reddit accounts though because we were scraping a couple subreddits into elasticsearch and MISP for sentiment analysis and artifact extraction

do you want skittles plots? because that's how you get skittles plots

[wintry bough]

BUNGIE

GIVE ME CRYO SOLO AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[glad cypress]

I was the only one to get out

I dropped it to my triage and decided to pick it back up THANK GOD I DID

[dark rampart]

Same i just grabbed the sub and the stryder and dipped but my teammate got like 8 purples in a box😭

[hardy lantern]

No, learn to work with people

[steady bronze]

nah his name's han, but they did freeze him once

[silver sorrel]

Personally I don't want a solo cryo, but I can see why some people want it. To each their own.

[north latch]

Solo in marathon barely works with how the runner shells are designed, it'd be so much worse on cryo

[steady bronze]

scrylo harchive chutney

[tall bloom]

yeah good point i j keep replying when i get the notification for some reason

i think ive been arguing w bro for like a hour now

[wintry bough]

I can. When the people are themselves competent.

[glad cypress]

That’s honestly insane luck

Bad luck

But luck lol

[north latch]

@quartz remnant come in the chat and speak your mind you disabled man reacting coward

[flat stratus]

there's countless times I've been killed by people who rotate often

[stable nacelle]

i’m saying when you are consistently fighting people with high-end equipment, where there is no shortage of dudes running snipers/shield LMGs/Misriahs and have enough grenades that the devs have to nerf the stack capacity, rotating and seeing glowing red windows on a building is the least of your worries.

Hence, “every rotation can turn into a shitshow”

[dark rampart]

I got 2 more keys though i better get golds when i do them

[wintry bough]

They never will. Kinda wish you could report emojis.

[vital pivot]

May aswell just kick him guys got about 4 brain cells and an extra chromosome by the looks of it

[steady bronze]

i blocked torv and his sock or gimmick buddy area51, it doesn't do anything except prevent them from reacting i think

[glad cypress]

Yea 6 is by far the hardest, it deserves to give golds

[lilac turret]

does anyone encounters cheaters more often now? low level with 100% headshot

[steady bronze]

discord's block/ignore functions are so much less than halfassed

[vital pivot]

I thought 6 did give golds?

[dawn grove]

A mute guy took a gold from a guy that I killed, ignored me when I asked for it then got mad when I didn’t rez him (and told teammate not to) after I asked several times. Then goes off mute when I pick it off the ground and says hes gonna report me to discord 😂😂

[north latch]

It doesn't bother me that much but after a certain point you have to question the pettiness to be reacting to every message without a peep

[glad cypress]

It 100% does from the unique bully but I’m talking shields or backpacks do have a chance to not spawn

[steady bronze]

report you to discord? for marathon game events?

[dark rampart]

It can but its been a joke around the community because it gives more purples than the other vaults than golds

[wintry bough]

Extreme. And that's coming from someone petty.

[steady bronze]

there are some amazing brains out here i tell you what

[vital pivot]

What about salvage? Because I have 3 vault 6 keys all I need is salvage tbh

[modest talon]

who wants to hang out and eat pizza rolls

[tall bloom]

the no mic loot goblins always speak up when u get em back

[glad cypress]

Should have 100% drop rate

[dark rampart]

It will, might just need to vandal blast it or something off the floor, that one glitches

[modest talon]

vault 6 has a bugged gold salvage on the floor, always

[tall bloom]

unique strider

unique bully would b insane

[glad cypress]

True my fault, isn’t there one tho?

[dark rampart]

Nope

[steady bronze]

yeah but i gotta eat the dumb expensive gluten free ones cause of HLA-DQ2

[vital pivot]

I had this happen to me yesterday, i was in squad fill one of the guys on my team got dropped by someone I then dropped and killed the guy who got him bare in mind they was full shield I revived the guy and he instantly went and took the gold even though it was my kill guy couldn’t understand why I pressed him about it

[modest talon]

ok im sorry i rescind the invitation

anyone else wanna eat pizza rolls

[dark rampart]

Im in

[north latch]

Dang, glutenfreephobic much

[crisp cloak]

I love how the Prestige Strider scope makes it even more like its ancestor, the MIDA Multitool.

[steady bronze]

god damn

[mellow pivot]

If there is a solo player in a team and his experience is not a solo experience then what is it ? You mentioned a shared experience . Just because 3 people look at the same object doesn't mean they see the same thing and even if they were to see the same thing it wouldn't make your experience any different if you were the only one to look at this object unless your brains are connected by some sort of communication your experience won't be that different . Again the problem in your argument is that you assume that a solo player can exist in a team but then you say that a team match is not a solo experience. A solo player is defined or at least closely related to a solo experience , so if you are saying that a player in a team does not experience a solo experience you somehow have to prove that a team impacts a solo player in such a way that he experiences a team experience. This is very hard to prove and just a waste of time.

So you either have to acknowledge that : the solo player cant play in a team or that random fill is a solo experience or you can redefine what it means to be a solo player

[steady bronze]

i've got a bag of the dumb expensive ones in the freezer right now

[modest talon]

listen dude, when I was a teenager, I used to work at Chipotle and I got yelled at by a customer about something something gluten

:(

[steady bronze]

yeah that's why i don't go to chipotle

[modest talon]

this was fucking 10+ years ago and i swear to god i can still see their dumb fucking face yelling at me

[silver sorrel]

Give it a rest, dude. Go queue solo, no one is stoppin ya.

[mellow pivot]

Well I manage to get to clearance 4 with this strategy consistently, so I would say it is worth it.

[pseudo bluff]

I made the french fries and ate them, but I also had cereal and now the toilet has demanded a sacrifice from me

[tall bloom]

You’re changing the definition mid-argument.

My point was never “players share one consciousness.” Obviously every person has their own perception.

The claim is simpler:
A solo queue player inside a team environment is still participating in a shared/team-based match structure.

Communication, teammate decisions, coordination, and dependency all affect the outcome. That means the experience is not purely solo in the gameplay sense.

So saying “you individually perceive the game” doesn’t refute my point at all. It just changes the discussion from matchmaking/game structure to philosophy of consciousness.

A solo player can exist inside a team game.
That does not make the match itself a purely solo experience.

[dark rampart]

French fries and cereal is kind of a devious combo

[pseudo bluff]

I was hungryy, now I regret

[tall bloom]

i love chat gpt

[mellow pivot]

I am going to be honest there were a few games where I got killed because of me running around the map solo but in the majority of cases I could get a clearance 4 for my team... Without dying. I just know cryoarchives too well

[crimson oracle]

instead of telling them that they are rly stupid because u only work there and ur not the producer. and if they just want to yell at someone they can go to psychologist or find a stupid friend like they are

[steady bronze]

i don't yell at people, i'm just picky about which restaurants i eat at, and there's no way to prevent cross contamination at chipotle unless you're first in line or they literally go in the back with new utensils and fresh bins

and that's too much to ask in my opinion

[silver sorrel]

Like I said, no one is stopping you. Go for it man, have fun.

[vital pivot]

Simple way to put it if I’m in a duo and I get you as my 3rd because of squad fill and I see you running to narnia in cryo and we get pushed in 2v3s I’m reporting you in game if you’re genuinely not going to help or havent even asked because text chat is a thing and asked your squad to help with a contract or an objective like a vault key I’m with in my right to just say your griefing

[modest talon]

GUYS IM GONNA EAT PIZZA ROLLS WITH @dark rampart

[steady bronze]

people who actually have celiac disease are generally not interested in being a bother

that doesn't mean you should treat us like shit, but it does mean i'm more likely to just not eat there if i don't know your protocols

[modest talon]

sorry im just fucking with you buddy, we can still eat pizza rolls

i just like to joke a lot, im a goober

[steady bronze]

is that the chocolate covered peanuts?

i like raisinets better

[modest talon]

i like Gardettos, Cool Ranch Doritos, and Cheetoh Puffs

if anyone else fucks with Tapatio Doritos in here, we might be chip soulmates

[steady bronze]

i can have cheetos

theoretically i think i can have doritos too but i'm less trusting of them

but frito lay generally does pretty well

[silver sorrel]

I don't think you could report someone for playing bad. Crew fills is a mixed bag and I know there are some crew fillers who play with zero regard for their team. Just hope the next fill ends up being someone better etc etc. But yeah I get your frustration lol

[dark rampart]

Probably my favorite Doritos apart from the spicy cool ranch

[stable nacelle]

Same.

Soy Sauce is trying to say that the Priority Contracts making certain POIs being altered (which, in most cases is just force fields and laser tripwires in one specific building) is somehow meaningful/dynamic affects on the map in a response to my complaint that Priority Contracts are mostly boring, surface level fetch quests.

my counter argument is that at a certain level, when everybody you fight is bringing their a-game and has no shortage of strong loadouts, red windows in Complex or Bio Research are pretty irrelevant. every rotation has the potential to be a trip back to the lobby.

[steady bronze]

which came first

ranch... or cool ranch

dilbert intensifies

[modest talon]

you shouldn't report someone for being a 👨‍🦼

[silver sorrel]

Trick question, nacho cheese

[wintry bough]

What fills should be is solo players put into a team of solo players match wide. Unfortunately that's not how it is and you end up with 3 man teams going against a fills team and the fills team gets steamrolled.

[steady bronze]

you sunk my scrabbleship

[modest talon]

that's just kinda mean-spirited if you really fucking think about it, they're trying their best man.

and this is coming from someone who's done it all in Cryo*, that's really mean-spirited

[mellow pivot]

You see the problem is that you say that a solo player can exist in a team,but other people think otherwise for example @silver sorrel have said this:"
"Unless you are queueing as rook or in explicit solo-no-team queue, this game is not a solo experience."

So basically if you are not queueing into crew fills, ie rook or solo-no-team queue, like I said above.

If you get put into a team, then it is a team dynamic instead. The more you are willing to work with your team, the better your outcomes will be."
So if you are queuing in a random fill you are not a solo player at that point .

So I am not sure why you insist on the fact that a solo player can be in a team which leads your own argument to a contradiction

[steady bronze]

which option do you click when you report someone for being bad at a game

[golden harness]

uh UH

[modest talon]

bro probably griefing or something stupid

[golden harness]

RANCH

[modest talon]

It's UNINTENTIONAL griefing if you get to the roots of it all, they didn't mean anything by it

they're just most likely completely unaware of their surroundings

[vital pivot]

No I never said bad if there genuinely just being ignorant because I get it cryo you can’t solo which it should a thing I think people can solo it but if I go in prox chat and ask or text chat and ask and you’re purely running to do whatever you want when in cryo I’m expected to bring in a gear ante im sorry if you’re not going to communicate or at least give some form hint even through pings hell yeah I can because my experience is then put down because I’ve got one less teammate to help me when another team comes up to try and take my stuff

[tepid latch]

Why does everyone have to come with work to me the second i have lunch 😭

[dark rampart]

Double it and pass it on

[tepid latch]

I have nobody to pass it on to

[steady bronze]

instead of playing out the ending to that animation

do you know about the mastaba snoopy

the post-cosmic singularity of an extragalactic mass of flesh and intellect which exhibits traits of a misunderstood reading of the collected works of charles schulz, pieced together by a mad, dying, insane alien godmass

[modest talon]

wompity womp womp

[mellow pivot]

Well I tell my team at the start of each game what my plan is, if they don't want to follow it ( at least until a certain point ) , I am not going to help them . For example if my team stays in bio or preservation for too long I am going to leave them to farm clearance in the control. If they want to stay and get pushed it will be their problem..
In my experience if you get pushed in those 2 areas , most of the time you are cooked , so I see no point in staying there where I can get to control and get clearance 2

[modest talon]

i feel like you could teach us all to be a better adult, idk why i get this from you

[steady bronze]

do i get to report anyone standing near me when i experience grief

[silver sorrel]

You've misread, so I'll reiterate in a more clear way:

Solo experience: Solo-not-in team queue, rook queue.
Team experience: Crew fill queue, premade queue.

Important exception: While in a Crew fill or premade queue, the rest of your team is dead, so now you have to solo for the rest of the match (or until you res them, if you do that).

[tepid latch]

Unemployed behavior

[steady bronze]

i can only do this when provoked

[toxic sable]

que times in EU are god awful please add a server change option 🙏🙏🙏 i’d rather take the lag than wait 8 business days to get into a match when im just a noob trying to learn the game

[modest talon]

oh relax, it's a mere jest

[wintry bough]

I think rook que is separate ngl. Should just be its own scavenger experience category.

[tepid latch]

I know, my message came off as offended but im really not😭
I just wanted to call you unemployed🥀

[vital pivot]

See this if you’re at least going to say what your intentions are then that’s fine i agree staying in one spot in cryo you’re asking for trouble but i have found some people in cryo especially this cryo just gone that they just go do whatever they want without any communication

[modest talon]

(but i'm not though)

[dark rampart]

Employed behavior🔥

[silver sorrel]

Yeah kinda, but from a player perspective, it is a solo experience (which you can choose to try to modify by working with others via prox chat, which is interesting and also doable on non-rook, but yeah).

[tepid latch]

Shhhh 😔

[inland quail]

I'll fucking skin every rook from now on

[mellow pivot]

Okay my bad I tried to reply to the other guy and present your comment as evidence. But in short I am saying that his definition of solo player is inconclusive. Saying that solo players exist in a team but doesn't experience a solo experience introduces a lot of complicated questions relative to a definition of a solo player

[modest talon]

i'm just a night owl :>

i have work in 7 hrs !

[vital pivot]

I make them drop claymores and WSTR if they want loot left over

[misty rose]

Everyones ratting in solos rn, just go play on your own.

[steady bronze]

did somebody say biblically accurate rook https://medal.tv/games/marathon/clips/mBCRyCRHHa4NamIU6

[wintry bough]

This sounds a little weird to say after thinking about it. But the game could benefit from something like DMZs team recruiting mechanic where you could rez an enemy player and they would become part of your team.
Might make the mercy kit actually useful.

[tepid latch]

Idek where you are from so that tells me little 🧍‍♀️

[modest talon]

woah woah woah fella, what did Rookie do to u

[inland quail]

Rook teamed up with last surviving guy in the second team in flight control, our guy still killed rezed teammeate and last guy in died to rook in the end

[hardy lantern]

I need more spooder themed skins bungo

[mellow pivot]

Yeah I always try to communicate when I have time. If we get to clearance 3 I usually stop to ask a team what they want to do

[steady bronze]

i set up a whole vst chain for my rooking around

[silver sorrel]

Yeah, it boils down to how you choose to define a "solo player".

If you crew fill and choose not to work with your team, one could argue you are technically now a acting as a "solo player" in spite of having 2 teammates.

Whatever term you want to use to define that behavior does not matter, really. The fact of the matter is the team is now impaired if either gets into a fight against a full 3 player team as either the 2 people or 1 person if they've split up hard enough, among other issues.

[kind shoal]

Is marathon down?
Tryna get a ranked game past 20 mins

[steady bronze]

i have a schtick about eating garbage [as a rook]

[wintry bough]

I know I would still appreciate being able to play the entirety of the game by myself

[modest talon]

i love my cute tortoise

[steady bronze]

so does master splinter

[silver sorrel]

I like single player games, but I wouldn't want that for this game personally.

[modest talon]

brother you're lucky i'm in my 30s, i've understood all of your references thus far

[steady bronze]

and that kid from the gamera movies

[sullen lagoon]

Crew fill that run off alone are mains so this lend even more credence to this definition of solo player

[wintry bough]

No no, not full on single player lmao. Just solo lobbies being completely unrestricted. Like being able to play the experimental queues and cryo solo.

[steady bronze]

do you realize that a robot just sang a love song to a turtle

[silver sorrel]

I see plenty of "solo players" in my counter-strike matchmade teams. It definitely hurts to see lol

[modest talon]

IM JUST A TEENAGE DIRTBAG BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABY

[silver sorrel]

Yeah, I'd rather they didn't personally haha.

[steady bronze]

tom servo isn't in wheatus

[sullen lagoon]

We need a game mode that put an explosive leash on runners that blow them up if they're too far from their teammates

[wintry bough]

Why not? If you play teams mainly it wouldn't really affect you much at all.
Purely solo appeal.

[steady bronze]

we need a new place on the internet

it's NOT a WEBSITE

[sullen lagoon]

It would allow to do very funny stuff with her arm cannon

[steady bronze]

vandal is mega man confirmed

marathon/pragmata mega man crossover reveal confirmed

open world bungie mega man game 2027 confirmed

[silver sorrel]

I like the idea of some content being exclusive, to a degree. I am also one of those guys that is ok with chasing a carrot that will take me a long time to earn. I also enjoy when something is difficult in the sense that cryo is, like hard raids in wow. IE needs a group, needs a certain level of skill etc.

I like seeing the cosmetic rewards from those things as well. When someone uses one of those, it is like "Oh dang, this guy is pretty nice at the game", sort of thing. I personally would feel like solo cryo would be too easy.

That said, this is all preference, it is totally cool if you prefer otherwise.

[steady bronze]

uhoh the sun is coming up

[sullen lagoon]

What they need to do is add an experimental queue that's solo only

[mellow pivot]

Yeah I agree

[steady bronze]

that's called the solo queue

[cold stump]

i love all recon/assassin cryo solo queue 🙂

[somber gust]

I love reviving people just to finish them again

[steady bronze]

ooh you mean cryo

[tribal osprey]

that feel when a priority contract springs a surprise locked room on you and it takes you so long to figure out how to get out that you miss final exfil by ~10 seconds

[steady bronze]

if we could tag random people with different hud colors or groups on the fly then it'd be a completely different game

[drowsy stag]

Crazy

[wintry bough]

Idk. I already had a lot of exclusivity with destiny, being raids. Dungeons were doable solo.

With cryo, I paid for the game itself rather than the content. I should have access to the full game regardless of team size.

[half geode]

Yeah solo can literally never come to Cryo. It’s literally not build for that. 9 million too many bots and nowhere near enough spawns. If you wanna solo queue that’s fine but there’s no point even asking for it on Cryo

[steady bronze]

i watched someone do that to someone else a few weeks ago and i guess they didn't see me standing there or something because i just dunked them

[wintry bough]

In a sense, solo still feels like a beta because I don't even have access to all of the maps. @silver sorrel

[tepid latch]

I wish they removed the entrance requirement and time limit of cryo the last two weeks of the season ☹️

[half geode]

Time limit maybe but bro ot needs that entrance requirement let’s be so fr

[unborn sundial]

the cryo timegate has been terrible, it should roll week to week

[wintry bough]

No solos, no solo vs squads. Nothing. It MUST be fill or team, and I don't like that.

[tepid latch]

Not at the end of the season??? Its getting wiped anyways.
Make it more accessible for a limited time when it least will impact people

[steady bronze]

i suspect they'll design for some more solo experiences moving forward but it's not likely to be a bitflip for cryo

[silver sorrel]

Yeah the Destiny 2 raid thing always puzzled me. I'm no god gamer, but I have about 5 or so day 1 clears under my belt... but I remember when they released "Root of Nightmares"... that raid was painfully easy, but I definitely ran into people I tried to teach that raid and man, they were BAD at videogames. I can see why the majority of players in D2 have not done a raid.

That said, raids are some of the best content those games have to offer. To make them any easier would take away from that. I wouldn't want raids to be solo activities either.

That is how I feel about cryo and content like that, personally. But hey, some people want everything to be soloable. That is totally fine if they prefer that. I just don't agree haha

[hexed gazelle]

Gold key room :(. Or very very low chance, hackable wall safes

[atomic current]

Listen to rainbow kitten surprise if you want peak

[half geode]

I don’t think it matters when in the season it is. Might as well remove all your loot and week early then right? Of course not - there is still an economy.

And if your loot doesn’t matter as much - why even care for the entry? Surely if you spend everything you have with no regard then you can enter Cryo a ton of times. If you still can’t then quite frankly I don’t think you’re deserving of playing the map. It’s meant to be endgame

[wintry bough]

And very few people have done raids solo, unintended of course but it has been done. Untested and unrestricted.
I want to have the ability to go in even if it's not intended/recommended.
Autocorrect goddamn it.

[high forge]

one is ugly games, and the other one is pretty capcom game

[silver sorrel]

I'd be cool with people being able to go into Cryo alone, but they would have to still be in lobbies that had 3 stacks etc.

[exotic jewel]

solo is dead in this game

[outer pumice]

can someone explain to me how this is possible? how the fuck didnt this guy die from the wstr shots????? https://streamable.com/eokcjk

[high forge]

didn't mix well, ugly games like marathon should know its place

[exotic jewel]

you would die without knowledge and theres too many robots that spawn quicker and make u stress

[wintry bough]

Honestly. For the time being, I wouldn't even mind that. It would just make me play far more avoidant than normal.

[silver sorrel]

Some people would want that, believe it or not.

[steady bronze]

much like your posting

OH ZING sorry that's an old joke

[exotic jewel]

just leave the server

[half geode]

I mean Cryo would be near impossible solo but if people wanna throw away their loot as they continuously die to bots that’s fine by me ig

[steady bronze]

ZIING

the extra i is for extra zing

[cold stump]

lol its soloable as is

[silver sorrel]

people have soloed compiler iirc

[hardy lantern]

Some players just yearn for the rook experience regardless of place.

[tepid latch]

I disagree😃

[cold stump]

the implant that makes you invisible on kill would make the map's pve so easy solo

[unborn sundial]

I died in the game

Bungie needs to fix this asap

[half geode]

Ok but will the average player? Not even remotely close

[steady bronze]

if you die in the game you die in the other game

[half geode]

With what part of what I said and how so?

[modest talon]

you don't sound as careless as your name suggests, very good

[hardy lantern]

I won at marathon but my wife still hasn't returned with the kids. Bungie needs to fix this.

[unborn sundial]

Bungie needs to change the game so that I win and everyone else loses

[wintry bough]

Correct. And it took hellish time but it was done. I would more than likely be able to do vaults far easier if it was just solo lobbies.

[inland quail]

Funny maymay optimization video
https://discordapp.com/channels/1303855380845301861/1475613182746824905/1503332297968189440

[true oriole]

Did you really join a Discord server for a game you don't like just to write about how much you don't like it?
Get to work, dude.

[hardy lantern]

I got a fire game for you then. It's called mixtape.

[steady bronze]

are you hiring

[exotic jewel]

loot is not worth anything can literally go outpost and get load of shit from pinwheel just got 3 golds in 3 runs lmao

[golden harness]

Do key rooms (blue/purple/prestige) typically have cryo keys in them?

[inland quail]

I won at wife, but my marathon still hasn't returned to previous playercount. Bungie needs to fix this.

[silver sorrel]

The thing is, much like in Destiny 2 raids, or WoW raids, when people beat content with less than the intended players, it is that much more impressive to me haha. I like that. Having to overcome that challenge is pretty tough.

[half geode]

Exactly. So why would anyone wanna remove the loadout requirement. Literally my precise point

[steady bronze]

nevermind i don't wanna work with you

[true oriole]

what

[modest talon]

did you have a lisp and cure it mid-sentence

[hardy lantern]

I marathon at wife but won hasn't returned with the bungie. Fix the kids.

[steady bronze]

instructions unclear, escaped wife, made kids god

[unborn sundial]

when i lose in the game it makes me realize that bungie needs to add a game mode so that i can win and if they dont the game will die

[modest talon]

incorrect, escape will ALWAYS make you mpreg

[frank phoenix]

i like how you think

[cunning cliff]

i don’t think they can spawn in key rooms, only pinnacle room in pinwheel

[tepid latch]

The whole idea. I believe there should be a limited period of no locked doors for stuff that is otherwise inaccessible to some players.
I dont struggle with the game and ive done a few cryo exfils, but for me for example I simply dont have guns nor the economy to keep making loadouts for cryo.
I know its meant to be an endgame activity but I also think it could be very healthy for the game to have short periods where things are more accessible. If anything they could do freekit cryo as an experimental queue.
I honestly do not care how they were to go about it, but I do sincerely believe that it wouldnt harm the playerbase to dial it back a little for a week or two so some people who would otherwise never do cryo gets to experience it, dio their toes and maybe they then start actually doing it next season 😃

[steady bronze]

bungie when are you adding wife mode

[silver sorrel]

Aight goin to sleep, night dudes

[hardy lantern]

I just fueled my car with biotoxic disinjection instead of diesel. MORTY!! we are stuck here! We can't go to wendigoo! Oh GOD!

[cold stump]

you're either getting rubber banding or turning before your vault is finished

[steady bronze]

me specifically??? that's a lot of pregnancy

one might say, mpreg is running RAMPANT

[unborn sundial]

bungie needs to tune the game's difficulty exactly to only my needs and everyone that is doing just fine is wrong and is sweaty

[steady bronze]

hyperhidrosis is no joke

bungie needs to find a cure

you ever drown your own family in your sweat??? by accident??? it's traumatic

[modest talon]

you just need someone to help you get into the groove of things!

someone from this server, god bless their soul, was incredibly patient and taught me how to play Cryo. If you don't have a squad by next Cryo, I have friendly friends and we can help you have a good time :-)

[unborn sundial]

when people die in the game they feel bad

bungie needs to add a game mode where people can get full rewards but not die so they dont feel bad

if they feel bad in the game they will never play again

[wintry lark]

I was called a sweat for checking building before looting

[inland quail]

Kids need fixing for sure

[steady bronze]

apparently players are sweats and also rats if they listen to the sounds of people around them, too

[hardy lantern]

We at bungie happy to announce that we are building a server building on the sun

[trim goblet]

snipers are so scary

[peak herald]

They need to fix the ass ADS reticle on snipers so I can stop using my monitor hardware crosshair

[unborn sundial]

you see i am simply taking my personal experience and projecting it onto every possible player so that i know exactly what is best for them in the game

send me the job offer bungie

[modest talon]

but also it doesnt help that Bungie/Sony downgraded our servers and it's blatantly obvious from how bad players are rubberbanding

[hardy lantern]

Schrodigers player

[steady bronze]

that's what happened to that amsterdam datacenter that burned down isn't it

real icarus moment

[wintry lark]

Mfs will sit down and tell you fromsoft mentality doesn’t help in these games and their incomparable, after their 500death to uesc

[wintry lark]

Where?

[cold stump]

experimental queue where we ban recon and thief for cryo

[unborn sundial]

mfs will sit down and tell you the game needs a full reward pve mode

[half geode]

See the reason I disagree is because knowledge is power. Absolutely - people who have not gone into Cryo a ton are at a massive disadvantage while people like me who grind it out will win way more fights off map knowledge alone. This is a very good thing. When I first started playing Cryo I was getting straight rolled. I mean starting with 300k credits and 250k vault value and ending with less than 50k each by the end of Cryo for 3 weekends in a row. I literally gave everything I had to Cryo so I could learn it because I could tell it was that kind of map.

Now that I did put in this value, I have insane map knowledge and win most fights because I simply know the map better. You saying that everyone should just get “free access” goes against the whole point of the map. You are supposed to lose. You are meant to die so that you learn. If there are no consequences and there is no barrier to entry then the map loses its purpose

[hardy lantern]

So marathon needs bloodhound step

[steady bronze]

sweaty rat players with beyerdynamic dt770 pros hearing you jostling and slopping around in algae ponds that "prefire" at the door you've opened

[modest talon]

#📽️run-clips drip check

[wintry lark]

Mfs will look you dead in the eyes and say the bots that can be one tapped by any weapon are hard and challenging

[half geode]

Learning the map requires a sacrifice of inventory value and a whole lot of it. People should absolutely not get in for free

[wintry bough]

To me. The challenge is easy to endure alone sometimes. Cryo is one of those things where the players are my obstacle rather than my goal.

[wintry lark]

No add PCR to perimiter, let them learn that

[tepid latch]

No im good. I can win most 1v1s and 1v2s and my friend is really good but what usually ends up happening is out third either does the opposite we do, griefs because we're women or is just bad, the latter im fine with, but it impacts my economy to the point where ill run 3 cry runs, be poor and spend the whole day making my money back outside of cryo. I know this is the core loop for marathon, but I still think a week or two of it not having a credit entrance fee would be good.
I did cryo yesterday for the firdt time on 3 weeks and got 7 kills on my own. Im not amazing but i know im not bad either. I just cant bring 10-20k loadouts only to have a greenshield teammate and foght full gold shields. It makes it so im limited to one or two cryo runs a day, and ive only exfilled 3 times afaik

[steady bronze]

if you wanna enjoy marathon solo queue with just a knife

[hardy lantern]

Real pros buy spice from the Sardukar to get preminisions for the sick prefires.

[wintry lark]

Rook exists for this reason, learn the map with no long term repercussions

[unborn sundial]

my personal experience is the only baseline that matters

[half geode]

I’m talking about Cryo

[steady bronze]

CHOAM revoked my permits

[modest talon]

dude im not challenging you, your skill, your aptitude, etc

Cryo is literally all about map knowledge, that's it -- but hey, go on with your bad self

EDIT: not responding to anymore of this

[hardy lantern]

But everyone's scadu blessing is 0 and he sees you through walls

[wintry lark]

God forbid you try help them from drowning in the knee high water

[steady bronze]

that is the real experience

you may not like it, but this is peak performance

[tepid latch]

I wasnt saying you were. Sorry if it came across that way.
But also I knoe the map fairly well. Ive done it a lot, just not been able to exfil much

[unborn sundial]

the game needs to add snorkels so i dont drown in the knee high water

[modest talon]

:D

yipee! that's awesome then, i wish you well in your journey :-)

[wintry lark]

People misunderstand this, the game/maps is the souls boss, to be learnt and respected

[steady bronze]

i wish you well in your TOILET

[wintry bough]

Wheres this hidden cache in dorms for run/hide 4/6?

[unborn sundial]

bungie needs to change the game so that people who cant win ever get the same exact rewards as people that spend time to get really good at the game

[wintry lark]

No just remove the water, I want a barren wasteland

[frank phoenix]

i havent even been able to touch cryo yet, cant wait to lose all my money tbh

[neat flare]

No, it helps the player in game. But it does not help the game survive the cost.

[hardy lantern]

Brother how do I respect the map without my yellow rook summons?

[inland quail]

As suggested here earlier today, if the last week of the wipe cryo would be available for the whole week it'd be nice.
Additionally they can unlock all upgrades/lower armoury prices/etc

[unborn sundial]

the only map should be gm_flatgrass

[half geode]

It’s very sad in the moment but it pays off. Cryo is actually way too fun once you learn it

[wintry lark]

Git gud (impossible but probable)

[wintry bough]

Exactly why I think that it shouldn't be time gated.

[wintry lark]

I don’t argue with stat merchants ✌️

[hardy lantern]

I forget to level vigor now a single bully shot kills me. Help me Ziegler nerf bully!

[unborn sundial]

bungie needs to add a game mode that lets me safely destroy all of the mystery of the game with zero risk so that i can enter my first pvp match with full game knowledge

[half geode]

I used to think that but honestly the time gate makes it more condensed and interesting. Keep the loot pool better. I still wish it wasn’t gated but I can sadly understand why it is

[wintry lark]

Worst part is a grey bully gets bullied by a purple shield (I’ve tried)

[neat flare]

That is bad faith, as you accused someone else of. I did not ask for stats.

[tepid latch]

Im really excited to see what and how the cradle is like

[wintry lark]

Wallahi we don’t care, I just don’t like Lord 😭😭😭😭

[frank phoenix]

I personally love how they have cryo set up. Super cool to prep for it throughout the week. Makes the run more intense lmao

[fervent egret]

Does anyone know a fast and not boring way to stock up on meds? I'm close to running out after cryo

[rose warren]

buy 4k sponsered kit and exfil

[wintry lark]

I like it cos it reminds me of FUT champs, I have been crucified for this opinion before

[fervent egret]

how many meds are in the 4k?

[hardy lantern]

All it takes is 14 body shots.

[wintry lark]

Rook, sell everything on the runs

[rose warren]

decent bit

[fervent egret]

I'm kind of low on credits as well, is the best way to get creds to scavange pinwheel as rook?

[cerulean pumice]

play sponsored and kill the other teams

[wintry lark]

Not even, just hit up the armoury rooms in the POI’s, normally free and need green+yellow cards

[elder viper]

cant get into a match after the first one and man its empty like theres only us and two rooks

[calm pond]

Guys should I buy marathon?

[wintry lark]

Expecting people to PvP in the PvP game? How dare you

[modest talon]

bro if cryo was available all week, that'd be siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick

[rose warren]

dude, no

[unborn sundial]

its fine that its timegated but the timegate needs to roll week to week so people with work schedules can play

[wintry lark]

It not being available all the time is what makes it sick, if you could have pizza every day, you would get sick off pizza

[wintry lark]

2 weeks the weekend, 2 weeks the week? Or am I being silly

[modest talon]

exacto, BUT they should do something special for the last few weeks of S1

[frank phoenix]

I NEED MORE KNIFE SKINS

[modest talon]

Because having pizza all the time is bad for you and that doesn't make pizza special to you anymore or something

that's the analogy i was given

[wintry lark]

I can get behind that cos it’s end of wipe

[frank phoenix]

too much pizza = bad for you

[wintry lark]

Mfs never touched fifa and it shows

[tepid latch]

This is what I personally would like

First month of season: cryo every weekend

Second month of every season:
Every other week full week of cryo

Last month of season: cryo available at all times

But to make this work i think we need more endgame stuff. Maybe dungeon-ish rooms on the existing maps with keys? Idk.

[modest talon]

ok papa, ill lay off the pizza T_T

[frank phoenix]

tbh cryo thur, fri, sat one week and the next sat, sun, monday.

[half geode]

I mean if there was even further endgame stuff after Cryo then this would maybe work with a few tweaks, but if Cryo is the goal then it’s just not reasonable. Even if there is more endgame stuff added at the same “tier” as Cryo, so long as Cryo is part of the endgame it needs to keep a similar schedule/entry requirement to what it has now

[tepid latch]

Economy

[unborn sundial]

ive only been able to play cryo a few times bc of my work schedule

[wintry lark]

Because you never played fifa

[frank phoenix]

changing up to much would just be a headache to keep up with

[modest talon]

bro i miss having Cryo available on Sunday......................................................

[cerulean pumice]

why are we prioritizing work over the thon

[half geode]

Speak to him Amir 🗣️ 🔥

[wintry lark]

I can sense how much you (don’t) exorcise through that sentence

[frank phoenix]

Having it at the end of the week and then at the beginning of the week alternating every weekend would be a great change imo

[granite gust]

guys am i the only one who takes the dih all the time on cryo🙏😭😭

[wintry lark]

Cap

[frank phoenix]

keeps it special while also making it more available for everyone with diff work schedules

[stark current]

Loot economy

[pastel goblet]

Google marathon inflation to learn more

[stark current]

I know some people hate that excuse but it’s there :p

[modest talon]

i dish it out most of the time, however, i am force fed the dih from time to time

[fallen echo]

not sure it's ended up being nearly as much of a big deal as people have made it out to be tbh

[tepid latch]

I agree in the early stages but as the season goes on the entry should be lowered because gearcreep. Otherwise people who didnt play from the start will end up not being able to do endgame stuff. Endgame should be endgame because of difficulty. Not because of arbitrary time limits.

[fervent egret]

I think it would be cool to have sponsered cryo in the final weekend before wipe

[frank phoenix]

hot take tbh

[modest talon]

they should've honestly upped the free kits to green shields like a week ago

[wintry bough]

At that point in the match where I'm engulfed with the idea that I could whilst simultaneously wondering if I should

[wintry lark]

The hot take is liking the time gate these days

[grim kestrel]

Yea was thinking this + open cryo for the last week or sumn along those lines

[modest talon]

Brother, we understand that it's SACRED and that it's SPECIAL this way

We just wanna celebrate how special it is a bit more, that's all

[wintry bough]

As it turns out, I shouldn't have.

[stark current]

Dang I was responding to the man and I think they got yeeted

[wintry lark]

General isn’t the dumbest place on a discord server for once, crazy

[frank phoenix]

Time gate the only reason i wanna get on cryo so bad, if ts was up all week id have $0 and a headache

[tepid latch]

Theres infinite ways to make it special. Time gating is just dumb, and that goes for most things in most games

[grim kestrel]

If it was the last week of cryo would u care tho

[wintry lark]

I ain’t played that much cos me and the boys are busy, season 2, we will be there

[idle beacon]

Every other weekend its only profit or only Ls

[crude herald]

I think that in general the ground loot should be better and guns/attachements/heals should be easier to find. The average player is lucky to extract 1 out of 5 times and the game encourages you to run the lobby down because thats who has the loot. They should give you more incentive to loot the map and not just W key every single person.

[unborn sundial]

it would be nice if cryo had built in mechanics to more heavily incentive killing other teams rather than teaming

[stark current]

I think people would be surprised

It gives a lot of things like candy if you know how to not push your luck and can exfil 50% of the time or better

Easy way to fill that vault up in a day I promise

But I imagine it’s more for not stacking the red shit

[half geode]

Well respectfully, I don’t think Cryo is as gated to a new player as people say it is. Now I didn’t play this game on launch. I was literally the last of my friends to buy it, but as they explained the “quest” to unlock Cryo and this and that I bought the game. I literally had 3 days to play before Cryo came out and that opening weekend (although I died a LOT) went honestly fine. It’s scary but people just need to go for it. Making a 5k value is absurdly easy if you really try. I know a few weeks behind vs a few months is way different but I’m just saying

[cerulean pumice]

Ranked would be so dead rn

[frank phoenix]

tbh nothing matters last week of wipe, for all i care they could spawn 20 of us on outpost with no bots

[modest talon]

Time gating is dumb, i agree

we all deserve to play this map on our time -- ppl who enjoy touching grass and stuff shouldnt get punished for being social on the weekends

[wintry bough]

That's just because there's nothing special about ranked.

[frank phoenix]

sacrifice your social life bro its a gamechanger

[golden harness]

I'd argue that the map flow that encourages constant rotation, and the keycards that encourage pvp, are the reason why you have as many people teaming via external means as opposed to just playing the game - That and the player pop being what it is

[tepid latch]

Unpopular opinion:
Ranked SHOULD be dead.
It splits the playerbase and ranked is filled with cheaters above gold.
Make ranked not be a queue but a thing you enter into a normal queue

[frank phoenix]

jokingggg guys jokinggggggg lmaooo

[wintry bough]

Torve0 being the zero in his name once again.

[golden harness]

Like the reason you want level 2 clearance as early as possible is to keep moving so you can either gank someone or simply avoid being ganked

[cold stump]

for vaults 1-5 killing just ONE team immediately shoots you up to what you need to do the vault

[modest talon]

you're joking, but i did that shit to form a squad and kill compiler like 2 weeks ago lmfao

[wintry lark]

Unpopular opinion, ranked should be sponsered kit mode

[frank phoenix]

Legend

[unborn sundial]

i honestly have no issue with teaming i am just tired of people complaining about it constantly

[crude herald]

no i totally agree with this, maybe not such a shit kit but it should be one thats balanced for sure

[golden harness]

Not a single mpreg SMH

[wintry lark]

People don’t like to PvP in the PvP game unfortunately

[frank phoenix]

Only reason i wanna take comp is for the thief skin😔

[cold stump]

br magnum starts like the good ol days

[dawn grove]

I got muted I wonder if the guy mad about the gold is an admin 😂😂

[unborn sundial]

gamers are increasingly risk averse year by year

[tepid latch]

I would like that I think but its still splitting the playerbase🥀

[crude herald]

the gun play in this game is super fun and all the other shit adds depth to the game and replayability but you objectively shouldnt have like the goo gun in a ranked game mode

[peak herald]

Ranked shouldn't be in an extraction shooter. Period. If you want to have a "ranked" mode, they should make a small 3v3 map where an extract spawns when the enemy team dies, or just re-work ranked into a round based 3v3 mode where you fight on different POIs with premade loadouts.

[cerulean pumice]

the magnum should be removed from this game

[crude herald]

they need to buff the range on the magnum

[hardy lantern]

I still remember how CSGO flopped. No pve or visual novel ascpect at all.

[cold stump]

21 meters for a 150 rpm is hilarious 😭

[unborn sundial]

i sound like a broken record but i think the reason ranked is so low effort is because it is meant to be a containment zone for untouchables

the game mode makes no sense in this type of game as is

[steady bronze]

what

[frank phoenix]

i like ranked but i agree it should be sponser kit or maybe a rank specific kit. everyone should start the match on even ground

[crude herald]

yeah there shouldnt be insane loot diff in ranked matches

[wintry lark]

Yh but if you want a ranked mode in an extraction shooter, might as well test looting ability too with the sponsered kits

[cold stump]

then where do people who succeed at cryo go?

[peak herald]

wtf is "looting ability"?

[kind shoal]

Bro what’s going on with the game can’t get into ranked at all…. Been trying past 30mins

[frank phoenix]

right backkkk in

[cold stump]

into outpost? cryo is off when ranked is up

[neat flare]

Your ability to goblin tf out on Theif.

[kind shoal]

lol bro ranked is honestly just for good people who are competitive or for people who wanna take on more risk for better rewards

They legit made a sponsored kit mode

[wintry bough]

Either back in for more, or take that as their cue for a break.

[cold stump]

they're insatiable they dont know such a thing

[kind shoal]

Ranked should and always will be for better players

[tepid latch]

Hey artists... please make more yuri marathon stuff 🙏

[wintry bough]

Correction. High end ranked.

[tulip oar]

preach

[kind shoal]

if your bad just get better honestly

[cerulean pumice]

but nothing definitively makes u a good player in a game like this

[wintry bough]

Gee. How useful.

[kind shoal]

But it’s the truth tho no?

Play normal mode
Get better
Then play ranked

Anything else is just copium

[tulip oar]

honestly yeah thats what im trying to do. currently its working. with a little bit of effort and willingness and want to learn you can improve. who woulda thunk

[unborn sundial]

NO BUNGY needs to CHANGE THE GAME so i can WIN without IMPROVING EVER

[dawn grove]

I got put into TO for no reason

[unborn sundial]

EVERY1 THAT PAID FOR THE GAME IS ENTITLED TO INFINITE GOLD SHIELDS AND GOO GUNS REGARDLESS OF SKILL

[wintry bough]

Or do what I do. Be good at the game, and don't touch ranked at all.
I love shredding people that are platinum rank and wondering how they feel about the guy that's still bronze 3 beating them.

[tulip oar]

ranked fills is a crap shoot. like i wouldn't expect anything great gold and below

[crude herald]

controller players kill me too because theyre always fucking with their settings instead of just improving 😂

[tribal osprey]

Magnum would be so peak if it had a unique version that functioned like The Last Word

[cold stump]

perfect hipfire accuracy

[wintry lark]

If they think getting good at games is hard, wait until they try and loose the excessive weight on their stomach

[kind shoal]

I doubt they check if your playing normal game mode I never check rank of anyone I kill or get killed by it’s just gg lets run it back

[unborn sundial]

ITS AN ENDOCRINE DISORDER THE WEIGHT IS GENETIC

[wintry lark]

In a bungie game? That’s unacceptable

[crude herald]

teapurse is crazywork

[kind shoal]

just @

Everyone and you get a reward

[tulip oar]

im a little pissed fills have been so bad for me. i like solo but im tired of fighting assassin after assassin. like i can win but its the most baring fight ever. i want an actual gun fight and dont want to wait on my stack to get on lol

[wintry lark]

In a bungie discord? Unacceptable this is our culture

[kind shoal]

just bring back vent pushing on cryo
Pushing a whole team with double wstrn stack overflow was 🔥

[crude herald]

id be super down to see a return to at least a 100dmg wstr

[kind shoal]

Double slugs on the gun don’t even help ibr like atleast bring it back to how it was if your gunna use that
Mod

[cold stump]

revisionist history is already taking over the wstr apocalypse was the most overused meta