🗣marathon-general-chat

[snow dagger]

im dumpin it out final week for gold season fiesta ending

[slim heart]

rarest shit in the game. that and the fuckin rusted medical case.

[prisma edge]

Only one coping is you. "The low player count must be because everyone sucks as much as I do!". Get real. Go somewhere else

[urban salmon]

Dude is the first to start throwing slurs after yelling "I'm friendly" 1000%

[peak dune]

sure the wont magically improve it but the do give you a bit more area to play around, been taking my gold bullys for a spin, the amount of times i won a fight i had no business even being close to winning is funny

[slim heart]

we are getting one guyd yall. just let him be.

[neat flare]

It took me forever to get my first gold from non faction levels but that following week I picked up 8 golds. Maybe it is a confidence thing.

[simple ermine]

I was freaking the fuck out the entire time I wish I had clipped it

[urban salmon]

I just think it's funny his only complaint is waaaaa I die

[neat flare]

Your account will make really steady progression with even a 50% exfill rate as long as you pick up even decent stuff during the run. (And stop going to perimeter.)

[glass cipher]

fair, i also just feel i have no idea how they feel and how to work around any quirks the gear might have. ive got 375hrs in the game but ive done so little actual experimenting in the middle of runs im not sure how a lot of things work when it comes to timing and animation canceling etc all the nitty gritty. so prestige weapons are just a completely new thing on top of all the crap im not completely comfortable with 😭

[slim heart]

thats surprisingly alot of ppls complaints unfortunately. This game is about sacrifice and you cannot get the goop if you are unwilling to risk the goop. You cannot kill without risking your own life. thats not how this shit works.

[tepid latch]

I got technicians at work to repair a laptop and they are yapping so much in a quiet office landscape 😭

[wheat flax]

It really is a good buffer. I feel like you really need every advantage you can get so why not take it in and see what happens yaknow ? Especially trying out different builds that make up for your weaknesses.

[unkempt egret]

Full bowl straight to the dome and dire marsh solos, headphones up, I’m scared and excited.

[zealous temple]

I get purple shields with free kits all day

[inland quail]

shush them

[peak dune]

tbf perimeter is loot heaven once you reach lvl 100, full purple squads all day, 3 goo guns, golds through the roof

[unkempt egret]

I wonder if runners partake in recreational substances.

[tepid latch]

HOW

[urban salmon]

Thats why wipes are good now you get to run it back and do it better with knowledge

[worldly cliff]

destroyer takes edibles for sure

[peak dune]

there are a few ways

[glass cipher]

true true, if anything i guess i have been saving my best gear for cryo so i should use it in there. id be fine with taking prestige weapons in on a normal cryo run but once i bring a key and its about getting a vault its just "fuuuck im balancing too many things in my head"

[inland quail]

They're on state-of-the-art cocktail of uppers and psychedelics

[unkempt egret]

That cyberpunk blend

[tepid latch]

I have social anxiety, my ways are limited

[slim heart]

okay i understand that you can go in with little risk but most bad players think a full green kit is a big risk. thats chump change. The point is the mindset of i deserve to win and take home big loot without the risk of dying.

[urban salmon]

Cardio kick definitely is

[peak dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091847337871155332/1478454938005934322/alnu40.gif

[slim heart]

catch me hitting a signal jammer after work

[cold stump]

play all week to build up loot hoping to lose it in cryo
keep exfilling and building up loot

[glass cipher]

lmfao real

[urban salmon]

It's why my current complaint is the way people are teaming in cryo they are trying to eliminate risk

[inland quail]

1. Please be quite and don't disrupt our productive environment
2. Shut the fuck up you nerds
3. This is a library be quiet
4. Stare them in the eyes menacingly

Choose any one

[unkempt egret]

Yeah I was reading the ingredient list and the first two are destabilized caffeine and ephedrine

[peak dune]

5. Skinning them

[elder parrot]

If someone want to watch a cheater's stream, I just dont know where to report : https://live.bilibili.com/1724775496

[winter spoke]

Sony's having their investor meeting right now. They mention while Bungie's portfolio didn't meet the expectations, they did say we aim to improve the performance of the game by working to retain highly engaged core users. So hopefully we're in the clear at the moment

[urban salmon]

Also drinkable cheeseburger has shrooms in it

[peak dune]

PLS SHUT UP WITH THIS

[plucky finch]

I found a gold cryo key on perimeter today 🥴

[wispy yacht]

How is the future of marathon looking to you guys.

[glass cipher]

i feel i need to adjust my sensitivity until its the perfect range, in other games i feel like i have damn near perfect aim like destiny or any of the halo games. this is NOT the case in Marathon

[cold stump]

good!

[inland quail]

Looking bright as the future of my country

[wheat flax]

Best thing you can do is lean on your mates. I feel like it’s easy to forget you’re not alone in fight or doing the exploring.it’s really only one way into the vaults at least so if anything someone can just watch the door and be ready to bubble so yall can exit through vent

[worldly cliff]

i spent a few hours doing rook runs and messing with sensitivity until i felt like i got it down 🙂‍↕️ might work for you too

[wispy yacht]

I hope good too but does sony release some balance sheet today that is showing some losses ?

[urban salmon]

Best fps since apex

[vale shoal]

Good if they do some type of free play weekend or perimeter free to play, it needs more exposure and playtime

[elder parrot]

sure, I heard most of the destiny 2 players are cheater

[slim heart]

we must buy more skins

[glass cipher]

oh my god. i legit forgot about rook what the hell is wrong with me, ive had my vault so full for a month straight i havent been doing any rook runs

[wheat flax]

Go ahead and queue and bring that with you

[timid skiff]

how?

[cold stump]

not losses, it means sony overvalued bungie as an asset

[plucky finch]

On the warden

[vale shoal]

Any of yall tryna run it

[worldly cliff]

honestly rook's a good time full vault or not

[wispy yacht]

isn't that the same thing ?

[slim heart]

thats a fuckin high roll holy shit

[inland quail]

Is vault 03 gold? I thought it's purple

Sry didn't mean to reply

[nocturne oar]

I just loaded in with only one other team mate howwww

[cold stump]

not really because their valuation could have been a mistake

[glass cipher]

ive got prestige of 03

[plucky finch]

😭😭😭😭

[humble depot]

why the hell did my runs get so good after i hit level 75? the luck i'm having is insane

[vale shoal]

It’s gold

[winter spoke]

The funny thing is that I do see people who want to buy skins on my Twitter feed but they just say theyre not good enough design wise

[inland quail]

You got better my man

[lost bough]

There is a couple good ones. M77 pink skin looks nice

[urban salmon]

They know vandal is the hot one so she gets the good skins

[neat flare]

Only lvl 99 so I have not had the pleasure of experiencing that.

[slim heart]

i bought deluxe cause thats the best skin line so far. most of the skins on the market are just recolors. not very appetizing.

[humble depot]

you really think so? damn that's interesting

[tepid latch]

All of the above would make me collapse

[inland quail]

Fishnet recon

[wispy yacht]

Hmm I hope the game do good because I am addicted
I am also sad because slop games getting huge amount of players and money

[wheat flax]

Funny thing. I was thinking earlier what if they had arenas like apex did for the casuals and it was f2p or something . You have a gear buying phase and looting. Could be interesting

[glass cipher]

ive watched the original reveal cinematic so much that i view Assassin as the main character even though i dont even main him

[worldly cliff]

sleeping on destroyer ngl

[urban salmon]

Wouldn't mind if they fixed the thermal bug on teammates
Vandals tho

[slim heart]

also achromatic rush skin line is sick as fuck. super stealthy and stylish.

[humble depot]

thief is the baddie, not vandal

[winter spoke]

Yeah it's funny enough the opposite of destiny 2 where there's too good of skins on eververse

[peak dune]

someone with perfect taste i see

[nocturne oar]

Sea erchin mode

[inland quail]

Have you seen splash art of the latest skin? It's nnngggh

[wispy yacht]

The visuals of this game is so good that other games look like very low quality to me

[urban salmon]

She's just basic hot girl tho so it's like
.. okay

[wheat flax]

They have a couple but I feel like for better or worse appealing to a certain group will do bungie some real good. 🤡

[lost bough]

💯. Bought the collector edition very happy with the theif statue

[glass cipher]

i like all the shells but i feel thief looks like she came from apex legends compared to the other skins

[winter spoke]

2B skin for thief
Infinite money

[mortal sequoia]

Good morning marathon. What's the player count

[lost bough]

3

[wheat flax]

As a vandal truther I hate how much I use assassin lol

[inland quail]

Ask a colleague to shush them if you can

[urban salmon]

Nah gotta be a character with no but

[wispy yacht]

Also I think they need to release some good skins in the store.
The current skins are really bad

How is their skin game in destiny?

[tawny valley]

100 marathotillion

[winter spoke]

Too good honestly

[glass cipher]

his abilities have a lot of utility !! you can do quite a bit with his smoke and invisibility outside of ratting
-# also i LOOOOOOVE HIS VOICE ACTOR YAHHHHHH

[urban salmon]

Pancake fr

[mortal sequoia]

No good skins because people might then be all about the skins and not care for the game which they must play!!!

[mint mountain]

cryo has some of the worst pvp in this game i swear... 🫠

[wispy yacht]

Do you think the art style is the reason they can't go much into skins ? Because all look similar to me

[slim heart]

destroyers Cyber Red is probably the best non battlepass/deluxe skin theres been.

[inland quail]

Motoko Kusanagi skin and I'll pay a 100

[urban salmon]

Idk the obsession with skins is goofy to me. You see it in the loading screen so what does it matter

[mortal sequoia]

No they just need to pay some artist or chat gpt

[glass cipher]

they look nice :D

[wispy yacht]

Chat gpt 🤣

[winter spoke]

I was about to bring that up actually haha. Just cause of marathon's style (and maybe being new) they don't want to or can't go wild like destiny

[plucky finch]

That 29th century drip tho

[wheat flax]

Yea he’s actually so cool. I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s done this but I’ve started throwing my smokes but doubling back instead of going through it or sitting in it and it’s actually tricked people a couple times and that always feels good 😂

[mortal sequoia]

Marathon skins were made by the HR department

[urban salmon]

Nah we all saw that chuds Twitter post with the "I made the characters better with ai" and it was garbage

[wheat flax]

100000 even.

[slim heart]

i like to look cool. its not like its ur money ?

[tawny valley]

it's weird how most of the skins besides the few from release day are just recolors or only change minor details

[winter spoke]

I don't know how they'd do it but I'd be for a evangelion Collab
I'll pay $100 for a Mari skin

[wispy yacht]

The Final's skin and customisation is also very good

[mortal sequoia]

Also turns out, and this was the reason pasted a few weeks ago, that marathon skins are really bad because you need to identify the outline of runners from the distance. They tought about everything

[wheat flax]

I know it would never happen but a ghost in the shell or cyberpunk skin collab would kinda go crazy

[tepid latch]

Im supposed to be responsible for them😭

[pulsar valve]

why is killing 100 bots in cryo harder then a compiler run 😭

[worldly cliff]

you gotta know if it's a recon so you don't ping them 🙏 i respect the decision

[urban salmon]

I'm talking about why it's always such a big complaint when you dont see your character 90% of the time lol. It's every game

[slim heart]

kusanagi theif skin would go insaneeeee

[wheat flax]

Did you try doing it in Wumbo ?

[pulsar valve]

suprised they havent made a destiny themed triage skin where the heal bot is a ghost

[sly owl]

Hello

[winter spoke]

Rebecca and Lucy alone would print mone

[reef plank]

This stupid challenge is the only reason I don’t have the title lmao

[tawny valley]

i don't think this game should have collabs honestly

[wheat flax]

I know there’s some artist in here. You have one job tonight

[glass cipher]

alright in game as rook messing with my sensitivity and is it just me or does it actually feel like there's some sort of filter on the camera movement? (probably just cope after playing halo infinite idk)

[mortal sequoia]

What's the status inspector. Are we finally getting some uplift?

[reef plank]

I’ve heard you can just cheese pump credentials if no one pushes you but I’ve never not gotten pushed while doing it unfortunately

[slim heart]

the speaker triage skin

[dark rampart]

Real, only method ive seen is finding the vault 3 boss and letting him keep spawning bots😭

[urban salmon]

The people that hate the game because it's not d3 would lose their minds so this is the move

[plucky finch]

Mouse smoothing?

[woven apex]

Is there a bug in outpost? The audio?

[wheat flax]

How come?

[pulsar valve]

i jsut tried that twice and it spawned in the last poi we checked both games and mostly spawned 2 blues instead of 6 whites 😭 actual rng nightmare

[worldly cliff]

yeah ticks can spawn sometimes

[glass cipher]

nahhh im just tweaking, its just going from 144 to 70fps

[sly owl]

no unfortunately the game has somehow struggled to reach numbers of their previous game currently....

[wheat flax]

There’s so many cool sci fi things they could pull from for cosmetics that would instantly have people spending money

[rotund narwhal]

Yea but all the stuff ugly

[mortal sequoia]

Why are marathon players not playing it?

[plucky finch]

I feel like I never get better than 90 even on lowest settings

[inland quail]

Rare traxus tag

[wheat flax]

To each their own. I actually like a lotta the skins. Even the ones you just earn

[glass cipher]

yeah silly engine stuff

[sly owl]

different genre :/

[worldly cliff]

sek is where it's at

[slim heart]

yea id love to see cross over skins. Theres way too many possiblities.

[mortal sequoia]

The settings don't do anything this a console game

[winter spoke]

I'm not gonna get into it too much here but Bungie not doing some sorta destiny 3 in pre production or whatever while marathon and d2'were still going bit them in the ass so hard feel. They did all these incubation projects that got cancelled except for one and rumor is D3 only got the greenlight last year

[urban salmon]

Yeah theres a quest that when someone picks up an item it deafens/mutes everyone's audio the one where you have to pick up a sample from the crashed ship it happened to me and and one other time when we did it with a random.

[plucky finch]

Free kit white ftw

[rotund narwhal]

I think free skins look better

[tawny valley]

maybe some loose inspiration would work but trying to copy something from another franchise into the marathon art style might be weird, plus i think the game should stand on its own and not have to drag people in through collabs like a ton of games do now

[inland quail]

SekGen is weeb faction so ofc its the best

[nocturne oar]

When the song plays on your gaming play kist just as you start a fight with enemy runners

[worldly cliff]

is it 😦 i just liked the worm

[winter spoke]

I love the white rabbit skin the most but the others skins are eh to me except the battle pass one.

[inland quail]

Worm is cool too

[plucky finch]

You listen to music while playing?

[rotund narwhal]

I think no matter how much we spend we won’t make the 720 mill Sony spent on the game

[peak dune]

except for their quests, those are torture but Mommy Nona is okay

[nocturne oar]

Yep double headphones

[mortal sequoia]

Should I open up a redbull or ask chatgpt to make me a latte macchiato?

[inland quail]

Imagine Nona in black leather with a whip

[winter spoke]

bonk

[worldly cliff]

having dance gavin dance or something adjacent on and playing marathon is a nice pleasure in life

[glass cipher]

now that im actually paying attention to my mouse movements and sensitivity im realizing i can hardly track objects with my mouse fuuuuuck

[lost bough]

It was actually 163 billion

[plucky finch]

I just sing "we're in the money" over and over again to myself in my head

[slim heart]

white rabbit, crash casket, and cyber red are all really good skins. We need more like those.

[inland quail]

Brotha step up your ragebait game

[winter spoke]

I really want them to add gyro aiming to the PS5 version I feel at a disadvantage when paired with PC peeps

[urban salmon]

I don't think thats the goal tho
It feels like bungie has made a game THEY want to play I've literally ran in to the community manager in game

[wheat flax]

I feel like giving the shells inspired clothes wouldn’t be too crazy. Doesn’t have to be 1:1 There’s a lotta art I’ve seen people make that has made realize how cool the runners would look in different types of fits I would’ve never considered. There’s a lotta things they could draw from

[tawny valley]

why does the number get higher and higher everytime someone brings it up

[nocturne oar]

Haha i listen cus it helps me focus

[plucky finch]

Sound cues tho

[worldly cliff]

sometimes u gotta thug it out

[urban salmon]

I've never liked the gyro stuff it's too finicky

[plucky finch]

Fair

[winter spoke]

I think it's part of the joke?

[wheat flax]

The employed players finally get home after work and the numbers go up until we all go back to work unironically

[slim heart]

streetwear/techwear skin line would be super fun

[inland quail]

That's new stuff, only a few hours old

[rotund narwhal]

Idk I just know it’s a lot

[plucky finch]

Carrying this team on our hunched over backs

[wheat flax]

Kinda cooking I’m Ngl

[slim heart]

quick everyone we need to make 7 quintilion dollars to save bungo from sony

[urban salmon]

People forget there was a settlement and we don't know the price on that and how it factors in to that number

[tawny valley]

bungo will never make back the 900 marathillion dollars they spent on this game ☠️☠️☠️👾

[sweet bolt]

i mean its kinda telling thats not gonna happen when theirs more people in here complainin abt the game then in the lfg chat

[winter spoke]

Yeah you get it!

[inland quail]

Impairment is not Marathon losses y'all

[wheat flax]

Let me reach into my big kid wallet and giving them my card details

[rotund narwhal]

I just seen lucky make a video but he always talking up his ass

[glass cipher]

guh has anyone else had an issue with lockbox room smoke showing through walls recently

[fervent vine]

they already have, ive spent that much money on skins alone

[drowsy stag]

What do you think Marathon’s main issue is? Because of which people leave the game

[urban salmon]

When you love something you want it to continue to get better

[winter spoke]

What exactly is it? Cause I don't know business speak. Im a little smooth brained worm

[plucky finch]

It's too good

[inland quail]

The main issue is gamers are casuals

[slim heart]

eh discord servers are for yappin. people who are playing the game arent in here. its an unbalanced statement.

[sweet bolt]

bro trust me ive been waiting 30mins to find a group already... i want it to continue..

[urban salmon]

Difficulty and skill gap. The average person doesn't want to try in games it's how you get arc raiders

[fervent vine]

we all on the game rn multitasking

[glass cipher]

people not liking the inconvenience of losing all their gear so easily

[drowsy stag]

What about Parimeter and Dire Marsh? It is not that competitive, well maybe marsh is

[rotund narwhal]

I’m working

[drifting pebble]

Did anyone else take a massive performance hit over the last 24 hours? The game went from running totally fine to getting <30 fps overnight, with no changes to other settings. Other games seem unaffected. Running a 5070ti and Intel Core 9.

[wheat flax]

It’s a hardcore game that’s not for the faint of heart marvel rivals types. Also it takes thinking to play something the average new age gamer might not want to engage with too much too often

[fervent vine]

working on getting more loot i see u

[plucky finch]

About the same as usual for me

[winter spoke]

Yeah it's hard to know what exactly they can do to bring in people and stick around. I guess maybe some PvE solo thing is the only doable thing while keeping the game pvp and such? But that's really it.. most of what I see people suggest just want a different game than what marathon is

[urban salmon]

I have a trio i play with a buddy from ranked apex days and a 3rd we picked up while duoing

[drowsy stag]

The same way you can gain all the loot from another person… it is just a dumb way of thinking. You lose - someone gains. Someone loses - you gain. That’s how all extraction shooters work no?

[worldly cliff]

arc raiders got a lot of ppl into extraction shooters because it's really forgiving and easy. then they go to something like marathon where it holds your hand for maybe 4 minutes and they decide it's not for them

[sweet bolt]

brother destiny wouldve died 7 years ago if it wasnt for lfg.... the main drive was the raids and there was 0 reliable way to get a raid group through the game itself... so for lfg to already be dying here now.. kinda scary

[slim heart]

alot of the playerbase arent gamblers for real. They dont know that you have to spend money to make money.

[urban salmon]

There's also just a media issue where dudes like asstecross just make hate content for the views

[drifting pebble]

I seem to be in a weirdly small minority here. No clue what's going on.

[inland quail]

As I understand it it's metric that tells depreciation of value of an asset. Like Sony bought Bungie for 3.6 billion, it's on their books as an asset worth 3.6 billion. Now they're telling that actually it worths less

[drowsy stag]

I wonder what they can do to improve the situation. Changing it to less competitive will lose its own appeal

[reef plank]

Basically the valuation has gone down and so sales targets and profit expectations have gone down

[wheat flax]

A f2p mode of some sort or a soft titan fall level campaign would do it I feel. I think a big issue for a lotta people is there’s not much to ease in a casual fps player

[slim heart]

dude its almost 4am on the east cost of na rn. only fucking goblins are on. The lfg was doing fine 6 hrs ago.

[reef plank]

Everyone’s saying it means Sony lost 750M cash but it’s just asset value, may even help their taxes😭

[sweet bolt]

i wish... i fkin wish bro.. i bought the game for 6 of my friends and 2 others bought it themselves... 7-8 refunded it and the 8th has yet to hop on in 2 months since he bought it

[inland quail]

Game is hard and it's not dependent on the map.
Gameplay loop is not rewarding for the casual gamers, great requirement of skill

[rotund narwhal]

I just lucky say they just said 720 mill Sony spent on the game

[reef plank]

As someone overnighting a bio final I can confirm that anyone awake rn is up to no good

[plucky finch]

Permanent rotating sponsored kit mode.

[wheat flax]

I don’t think they have to change anything we have now. Just ADD an option for people who ain’t ready for the competitive mode and think the games too hard or need the dopamine of the rewards without the thought of losing everything.

[winter spoke]

I think even just letting someone queue into a map and do contracts solo with no other runners around and only the UESC could help in some way. Maybe they could turn the perimeter beginner map to that.

[inland quail]

brotha stop 😭

[reef plank]

Nah Sony bought bungie for like 3.4 or whatever and their value dropped to 2.6 in newest valuation. Sony didn’t lose any actual cash just value. If anything it may help their taxes lmao

[rotund narwhal]

😂

[glass cipher]

considering how the most popular extraction shooter is Arc Raiders which is notoriously wholesome chungus and holds your hand for the most part, it makes sense why people would be shocked and appalled by how much harder Marathon is

[drowsy stag]

I am not some sweaty player myself. And playing in 55 fps on Outpost is doing its job. But I still love the game, idk why people hate it that much

[inland quail]

I understand wanting to ragebait, but make it at least believable

[worldly cliff]

most of the hate from this game comes from people who never played it

[lost bough]

It's not hard though.

[rotund narwhal]

Look at lucky video

[plucky finch]

Some kind of consolation prize for multiple losses in a row. To soften the pain and keep you coming back. White shield free kits in first half of season, green free kits in the second half.

[slim heart]

most of us love the game here thers just the ocassional one guy who talks about the steam charts and how hes bad at the game and its the games fault

[inland quail]

idk who that is

[reef plank]

No one has liked lucky for years dog don’t follow him he’s terrible person 😭

[drowsy stag]

The game is rlly good, but let’s be honest, 12k peak online won’t make Bungie happy😞

[rotund narwhal]

Lucky10p

[winter spoke]

I like arc raiders a bunch but it's also was interesting to watch the community turn in real time just against PvP. I think at least in that game it makes sense lore wise since you're only knocking raiders out and you all seem to share the same town

[dark rampart]

How tf did a Thief just fly outside the ship in Cryo, bro was on the other side of the glass after the Compiler room LOL

[wheat flax]

Yea. I hate to say it cause I’m against babying in games but some players NEED to have their hand held a bit to ease them into this. The reality is even with games like destiny there’s a portion of the fanbase that aren’t touching raid modes or stuff like that and there’s people not ready for a hardcore pvp extraction shooter you can’t oonga boonga play

[sly owl]

the game being an extraction shooter, which is already usually niche, and then it makes itself even more niche by being a hardcore extraction shooter, thats why its struggling.

[worldly cliff]

they'll work on it 🙂‍↕️ rainbow six siege had a rough launch but got super popular after some time (and then kinda died again but that's not the point)

[glass cipher]

yeah its pretty crazy, its people deluding themselves into thinking the game is 'woke' for some reason + a lot of Destiny 2 players who have a seething hatred for this game "stealing" bungies attention away from their favorite game + people who just like making other people feel bad online DAMN IT MEANT TO REPLY

[inland quail]

Is it considered woke game?

[rotund narwhal]

I don’t rage bait don’t shoot the messenger

[glass cipher]

thats what you'll see online from raving maniacs yeah

[strange cloak]

Computer impregnate everyone in this chat

[winter spoke]

The destiny community desipides thus game, it was so fascinating to watch

[slim heart]

if ur afraid of woke you need to go the fuck outside

[drowsy stag]

I just wonder why would a person play extraction shooter where you can just go grab stuff without killing anyone. It was literally the point of it. So idk how people enjoy playing “don’t shoot” in arc raiders. Like that’s not interesting😭

[rotund narwhal]

😂

[tawny valley]

too many colors

[wheat flax]

Its not but theyll say it is cause certain communities love this game the most and they dont like us so

[sly owl]

well unfortunately the proof is in the pudding, and people love that pudding more.

[reef plank]

I honestly can’t believe lucky has a platform still

[rotund narwhal]

Iknow he full of shit

[drowsy stag]

It has a rlly high entry point. I tried to play it, matchmaking me against diamonds is wild stuff, when I have like 10 hours in the game. I don’t think Marathon has entry point THAT high

[plucky finch]

Poop

[wary flame]

i just got my first ai subroutine and my first prestige item YAY

[inland quail]

I learned about existence of this game after release because my friend is destiny fan and offered to buy it for me so we can play.
I don't know about any previous discourse surrounding it. Well, except what I learned in the past few months on reddit and few days here

[reef plank]

Last I heard of him everyone was cancelling him for being a prick but ig he still has a small fan base

[wheat flax]

It’s funny cause I started marathon off willing to be pacifist but over time I was like “damn. Killing the entire lobby is kinda fun let’s do that”

[slim heart]

someone take that guys mpreg rights away

[winter spoke]

Anyone who calls this game woke is just not worth your time. they'll just find another game. I mean shit, they were proping up slay the spire 2 against this game and are not turning on it because they saw a woman they don't like in the credits

[plucky finch]

Mpreg me baby please please

[worldly cliff]

siege is in a like really weird spot rn but it had its rise after a low start

[strange cloak]

You get double preggo

[sly owl]

buddy is reacting to every post lmao

[unreal vector]

By online standards yes because that’s what grifters think about Bungie, that it’s a woke company

[glass cipher]

oh ikr, yeah its the weirdest forced hate online its straight up the weirdest reaction ive ever seen to a video game

[tawny valley]

genuine weirdos

[slim heart]

super mpreg LMFAO

[thin glen]

🫃
🦵

[inland quail]

Waiting for my country to ban bungie now lol

[lost bough]

💯

[wheat flax]

I peeped this and actually got mad. These people just want something to dogpile on. I really wish all these people who claim the games not for them or they hate it for X reason would move on and let us enjoy it

[drowsy stag]

One time I killed like 2 squads myself when my team died ( well 2 people were down from another team) but still a wild stuff on Pinvil ( or whatever it’s pronounced in English). It felt so good

[dark rampart]

LOL

[wary flame]

🫃

[lost bough]

It's woke because one dev is trans?

[inland quail]

Peak runnah form

[obtuse orchid]

man i cant for the life of me get a kill with the misriah or wstr

[dark rampart]

The game is woke because you need to be awake to play it

[spare shoal]

this, my mans preachin

[winter spoke]

All due respect to her. Caring that much about ainta sarkeesian in 2026 is wild

[unreal vector]

They’re genuinely looking for something because they want a scapegoat to hate on minorities for “ruining their games”, genuine cattle

[lost bough]

Straight gospel

[rotund narwhal]

Stop it

[drowsy stag]

I just hope they will try to fix AT FIRST A STUPID OPTIMISATION. And then find some other stuff which might appeal to masses without ruining the core game. I think it has lots of potential

[strange cloak]

Everyone impregnate them

[inland quail]

Being enlightened == being awake. So you need to be enlightened to play Marathon

Hop on nirvana train

[lost bough]

🫃🏿

[unreal vector]

That’s what those idiots online think, ridiculous stuff all around

[winter spoke]

The cute guy the morning after I bring him home

[alpine crown]

🧘‍♀️ Pronouns..........................................,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,

[wheat flax]

Yea it genuinely feels amazing incorporating things you’ve learned to absolutely wreck an entire team and eventually the lobby. Ive had mates inspire me to go after purple and up shield teams even on green more often cause that gear don’t mean anything if we catch them alone 😭

[slim heart]

how could you...

[spare shoal]

game is good but caters to unemployed ppl, unemployed ppl dont have money to buy cosmetics

[alpine crown]

It's my dark secret PAST

[lost bough]

I couldn't care less about that stuff..game fun I play

[inland quail]

Outside is scawwy

[fallen echo]

PRONOUNS
GENDER AMBIGUITY

[unreal vector]

Exactly, you’re right

[plucky finch]

I want to kiss triage on the mouth

[slim heart]

internet gremlins who are afraid of women are scarrier i promise

[rotund narwhal]

I got my momma paying

[nova stump]

Is there any credence towards the later the hour the sweatier the lobbies

[inland quail]

I'm not that scary though

[drowsy stag]

My teams are usually dumb.. we have like 1 purple and 2 blues or just 3 greens. They PUSH a team with purple shields ( they are together in one place) and then die and complain. Like.. bro

[fallen echo]

I am

[slim heart]

LMAO

[inland quail]

Wanna be friends and be scared of women together?

[sly owl]

i havent seen sunlight in 2 weeks, ive been busy looking at steam charts.

[drowsy stag]

The only way to kill purples with bad load out is to catch off guard but people decide to randomly push and let them know where we are😭

[rotund narwhal]

I just got payed should I buy every skin

[drowsy stag]

And what did you find out Mr chart inspector

[wheat flax]

Depends I feel. I feel like if anything the higher the level the sweatier but you can easily run into some nighthawks who are just off their game or not good

[wary flame]

you should buy all the fortnite cars

[sly owl]

the game is struggling. thats it, it was worth it.

[winter spoke]

I have a Blahaj. Who wants to.say hi to.him? His name is Jeffery

[nova stump]

Just wanna run some Cryo to learn the map. The lack of solo or rook rly hinders my ability to learn the map

[worldly cliff]

tell jeffery i said hello

[rotund narwhal]

Great investment

[inland quail]

Hi Jeffrey the Shark

[wheat flax]

Aye we all have to do that a couple times to understand. It’s like a baby learning not to touch the stove when it was only just turned off moments ago 😭

[zenith spoke]

I cant bring myself to play cryo

[rotund narwhal]

You must have no loot

[zenith spoke]

I only do pinwheel anymore

[mortal sequoia]

Little humans shouldn't be able to reach the stove?

[grim kestrel]

Almost all keys but I hate crew fill

[wary flame]

same but i did and got my first prestige and ai subroutine

[wheat flax]

Should try the channel on here where people look for games. Plenty of very nice runners willing to literally guide you and teach you ins and outs of map. Will say outside of when we gotta kill eachother this is the nicest gaming community ever

[inland quail]

Why?

[drowsy stag]

Let’s play together 🙂

[unreal hinge]

cryo is fk shame

[rotund narwhal]

Yea u will just lose it all 😂

[zenith spoke]

Nah its just every lfg is level 1000+
Must have a harem of every other players mother

[mortal sequoia]

And they do it for free!!!

[slim heart]

i pray for yall who are solo queuing cryo. May the loot gods be kind to you.

[wheat flax]

They’re crafty and sometimes good climbers

[inland quail]

#lfc-cryo-archive

[zenith spoke]

Still at work sadly

[nova stump]

Guess with pvp included, but makes sense

[nocturne oar]

Currently just playing dire marsh

[worldly cliff]

honestly if you just throw a message into the chat saying you're looking for more chilled lobbies i'm sure you'd get a group of likeminded people fairly quickly

[worn galleon]

I just did like 3 vaults in one night bruh
Today was my first time ever playing cryo

[wary flame]

love ya name its great

[grim kestrel]

I would totally give my keys for ppl if I just got ai sub routines I don’t even want the loot

[drowsy stag]

BAN THIS GUY. TOO LUCKY

[rotund narwhal]

That’s crazy

[slim heart]

this guys a winner. this is the mentality.

[wheat flax]

For free and will let you get the best stuff. again the NICEST people. They want you to be good and I’ve gotten better and learned many tricks from the people willing to carry and be patient

[worn galleon]

It came to me in a dream

[inland quail]

AI subroutines are shared for all team

[wary flame]

i can tell same thing happend with me

[rotund narwhal]

Must be hacking 😂

[humble depot]

how dare you

[grim kestrel]

Ik I don’t even want the loot 🤷 I just want the skin but I don’t wanna skip any vaults

[vale shoal]

GANG I NEED TO RUN VAULT 2/3/5 TONIGHT, I have all keys an ima D1 vandal, lmk

[drowsy stag]

The only thing I struggle in Cryo with is just that I don’t know where to go😭

[wheat flax]

Yea honestly the hardest part of cryo is the pvp and I guess learning routes to make it to exfils. It can be A lot cause the the maps just so dense and it’s easy to get lost or stuck in area

[wary flame]

same i want the recon but i know that never gonna happen

[urban salmon]

I can go outside and see 5 of her without noticing

[worn galleon]

Honestly I think perimeter and dire marsh on a bad day is way worse than cryo

[grim kestrel]

I value the permanent skins and emblems over the loot tbh, low-key been thriving on these loot changes so

[humble depot]

you live in Tau Ceti IV? 🤨

[wheat flax]

Cryo will definitely have you feeling like zzz pro from one piece

[slim heart]

gotta play a lot of cryo to fully understand the lay out but once you have it the knowledge gap give you the upper hand in most fights its awesome

[zenith spoke]

Perimeter is fun
Idk it just seems more chill from the aesthetics alone

[inland quail]

he is bingus

[worn galleon]

Bro find some guys that have the know how of cryo. Believe in yourself and be f***** blood thirsty. I learned you have to kill

[humble depot]

i got a cryo vault 1 key, a gold key for "destroyed wing access" and idk what either of those do

[astral snow]

it is SUUUUCH a sweat hole tho like jeez, i hope the next map wont have such a high ante

[urban salmon]

Standard brunette idk what to tell you

[unreal vector]

Isn’t the destroyed wing something in outpost or am i crazy

[tepid latch]

Yes it is

[inland quail]

D1 as in diamond 1 in ranked? That's crazy 😭

[worn galleon]

There is a prestige room inside destroyed wing once you get access, get in there and loot and leave though the back by turning off the barriers

[drowsy stag]

But I guess i will get it just through many runs. The same thing was with Outpost ( but it is more straightforward still). I have some Cryo keys but afraid to do anything without an actual team

[plucky finch]

Tau ceteez nuts

[wheat flax]

This! Knowing the layout and all the nooks you can use to get around or jump/pinch a team really makes difference

[wary flame]

im to good of a guy to be blood thirsty

[humble depot]

yeah, it is, I am saying that i have 2 keys

[vale shoal]

I don’t play much ranked nah 😂😂 only like 4 games. I’m just good

[worldly cliff]

revolutionary humor occurring in the marathon discord yall

[worn galleon]

I was too until I got rook blood on my hands

[wheat flax]

Funny thing I’m more familiar with cryo than outpost and I’ve ran cryo way more 🤡outpost scares me sometimes

[slim heart]

run 5k value load outs and just hold hands with your teammates to learn the map. dont risk your key unless you know the ppl you are running with. its not worth to throw keys away for free. maybe cryo 1 or 2 but any of the others are too valuable to run with randoms. let them bring the keys.

[humble depot]

ahh, i see

my vault is filled to the brim rn (mostly salvage) so maybe when it's emptier

[wary flame]

i did just do my first vault but that was because of high lvl randos

[drowsy stag]

I have one legendary one

[tepid latch]

They should do age based mm in marathon

[worn galleon]

Killing rooks makes me feel like an awful person but you run you die and you run again

[humble depot]

today i was trying to save a rook that my teammate accidentally downed and he crawled into a claymore and flew away 😭

[slim heart]

3 or 5 ?

[worldly cliff]

i do wonder if there's a couple 90 year olds running perimeter rn

[worn galleon]

I tried to save a rook but my teammates made me kill him

[drowsy stag]

Idk. Didn’t check. I also heard that you can’t just open the door. You need batteries and other stuff, and it is different for each vault

[tepid latch]

I ran into 40 year olds yesterday 🥀
Talking about how theyve been with their partners for 20 years... meanwhile im just like...
24 years 😭

[crude ferry]

are your teammates wrong?

[worldly cliff]

honestly i wanna be in my 40's playing marathon 🙂‍↕️ sounds like the life to me

[slim heart]

yes all vaults need batteries, some need cryo coolant, and others need even more than that. 3 and 5 are the super annoying bullshit ones. You have to kill wardens for those.

[humble depot]

i try to be friendly as much as possible, today i warned a rook that we're fully kitted but friendly and it's best if you leave (and he left)

||we only had blue shields on||

[wraith gyro]

Just finished a dope Cryo run. Didn’t make it to level 3, PvP was great though, knocked 3 other team, and no one in the lobby made it out alive 🥶🥶🥶❄️❄️❄️❄️

[tepid latch]

Assuming i dont have kids, agreed

[wary flame]

na its pretty common for people to insta kill rooks

[crude ferry]

I havent tried rook yet so idk

[vale shoal]

Nice, I’m looking for a team lmk

[mortal sequoia]

I wonder why they added a map, should've just let the runners handle cartography

[drowsy stag]

There is also boss there, but I guess I shouldn’t think about it for now

[slim heart]

i suggest watching a guide on how to do the vaults. IF you really dont want to be spoiled and want to learn as you go be prepared to sacrifice some loot to gain that knowledge.

[wraith gyro]

Dm me

[worldly cliff]

but you could get your kids to join the squad and then you've got the whole family on marathon 😭

[wraith gyro]

Wearing the vandal grey sweatpants skin to cryo cus it’s a cold world 🥶🥶🥶❄️❄️❄️❄️

[sweet bolt]

bois idk if u seen that new movie project hail mary with the fkin talkin rock in space but the star they go to is fkin tau ceti

[inland quail]

Yeah I noticed it as well when I watched it

[nova stump]

Rooks shouldn’t instakill other rooks, but runners are more incentivised to not be friendly forwards rooks iirc

[wraith gyro]

I saw that last movie week I was trippin out

[vale shoal]

Deadass what I got on rn

[worldly cliff]

clocked it immediately watching the movie and almost had an out of body thing

[mortal sequoia]

Are they going to release a prequel Tau Ceti farming And tera forming simulator?

[inland quail]

Tau Ceti is real. Ceti is whale

[fallen flint]

should recon get a buff that lets her set the space between echo pulses? (if you have a long ping duration it would make sense to space the pulses out as much as possible

[sweet bolt]

legit just started the movie lmao freaked me out for a sec

[tepid latch]

I dont want kids, it would ruin my plans.
But then again someone might change my opinion 🥀

[zenith spoke]

Nah

[nova stump]

Tau Ceti is one of the discovered star systems that have very similar conditions to the solar system which is why it’s believed it can sustain life. It’s also got a nice name that’s memorable.

[inland quail]

Recon is great rn, further buffs would make her too strong

[mortal sequoia]

It has birds aren't the birds native? Or the ticks?

[fallen flint]

i meant as a prestige core maybe

[tepid latch]

Time to buff poor vandal 🥀

[worldly cliff]

that's real actually 🙏 no shame in that

[nova stump]

What if they made Recon’s drone seek out enemies and do damage tho, thoughts?

[dark rampart]

Vandals goated

[mortal sequoia]

Easy your plans will ruin themselves

[timid rain]

Is shield level now taken into account for matchmaking? Someone mentioned it.

[fallen flint]

vandal going invisible on her power slide (signal jammer) is honestly pretty dope.. i saw it in action in solo and i was so impressed

[zenith spoke]

Recon is good now

[tepid latch]

She needs to be more goated

[inland quail]

I think the technology just isn't there yet

[tepid latch]

What

[wary flame]

i think vandal should get tf2 movement

[dark rampart]

I think she just relies on skill tree upgrades too much early game, late game with her purple and legendary cores available shes so good

[fallen flint]

its not meant to do damage.. it's meant to slow the enemies down for your push

[obtuse orchid]

I hope the cradle is comfy :3

[nova stump]

I rly wish we could jump out of slide or something. I want to fucking shoot my gun already

[mortal sequoia]

That's what they do

[humble depot]

are all gold keys fragile? i just got one, that's so annoying

[grim kestrel]

Nugget is ball knowledge

[fallen flint]

and it's meant to tell you which direction they are if you aren't already aware as an intel tool. it does both. but a live grenade it is not

[dark rampart]

Maybe she can use some qol changes but nothing crazy

[inland quail]

It's a joke about how drone's pathing is bad.
Also there core that makes it more do more damage

[tepid latch]

I think they should give her a arm railgun mod that turns the arm into the Zeus with 1 tap hs capabilities and also give her 20 new skins and speed boost while they are at it 😍

[obtuse orchid]

thanks for the support

[cold stump]

nope you're just unlucky

[inland quail]

I think they should give her a Vash's arm from Trigun

[grim kestrel]

Nvm maybe I’m thinking of the can your pet chicken

[tepid latch]

No idea what that is

[fallen flint]

can she use the arm cannon as a rocket jump to jump even higher?

[nova stump]

Also I’m pretty sure if it doesn’t have LOS of the target it just goes whatever direction it wants, so it can’t seek out a person you throw it at unless it lands to have LOS of em.

[humble depot]

ball knower?

[tepid latch]

Actually give her arm jets to turn into a fighter plane

[nova stump]

There is actually a core for that. I need to test it out to see what you can do with it.

[inland quail]

yessir

[fallen flint]

yean and since it's crawling on the floor its line of sight is pretty terrible which is why peope always bitch about it... it's all in the throw

[obtuse orchid]

im nugget

[plain violet]

Do you guys think the wipe will remove Codex progress too? I’m talking specifically about the AI fragments from the Cryo Vaults

[graceful pollen]

I like my cookies with NuCaloric Thick Tics Milk !!

[nova stump]

Nope. Codex is safe

[worldly cliff]

i heavily doubt it

[fallen flint]

codex progress stays

[humble depot]

what if, WHAT IF, the shells can go prone

[dark rampart]

Theres a core for that but works half the time, rubber bands you and doesnt really send you that far, i honestly think it should just be built in to her kit

[inland quail]

They already confirmed that AI subrtoutines persist between wipes

[plain violet]

Thanks!

[tepid latch]

They should give all characters jiggle. That would be a nice balanced buff

[wary flame]

AMEN

[inland quail]

Thief jiggle physics 😻

[nova stump]

I was about to link you the clip of my drone just missing a strafing guy but turns out I already linked you that

[graceful pollen]

Recon butt physics would be neat!

[fallen flint]

have you guys noticed you play better on free kits than when you load into ranked?

[wary flame]

rook jiggle

[grim kestrel]

This would be cool but so much f balancing, ppl would abuse this or trash it if it looks stupid

There’s two instances of it happening in trailers sooooo yk I like the think it could work

[inland quail]

You're hired

[nova stump]

Triage’s bald head jiggling like jello, thoughts?

[worldly cliff]

sound waves should be coming off of destroyer when he jumps realistically

[tepid latch]

No but ive noticed on ranked i run into cheaters but i don't outside of ranked

[fallen flint]

ranked is probably prestige since it's literally like a leaderboard

[inland quail]

Yeah. Less gear fear, you play more agressive and take chances, that's pretty common thing

[tepid latch]

Thank you bungie🫶 🥺

My first act as a bungie dev will be to add telesto from destiny just to add some spice to the code

[nova stump]

Fear is the mind killer

[stable cloak]

@elfin agate y r u ratting at pinopticon

[inland quail]

Lithany_against_fear.txt

[fallen flint]

yeah it's so freeing. no pun intended. but i feel the same way. i'm doing so many new things i wouldn't have done. plus you get to keep your gear if you exfil. so i've been staching up on the MIDA free kit this week.

[unreal vector]

guys quick question, i’ve realized my vault fills faster than i thought it would, so what should i get rid off first ? I don’t really know what to sell

[brave marten]

skill issue

[stable cloak]

we won lol

[inland quail]

The trick is to transfer this feeling to your regular kits

[nova stump]

We need to add the Cabal just for the funny balls and cannons to return the architects. For a bungie game, Marathon lacks getting cratered randomly

[wheat flax]

Depends on the sponsored kit I get. If magnums in there I’m scared lol

[fallen flint]

cores you never use?

[humble depot]

i've just been realizing how powerful destroyer's thrusters are, i can legit leap from one POI to other without touching the ground (like from that gap next to orientation)

too bad that they activate even when i am trying to mantle

[worldly cliff]

magnum is sooooo fun though

[inland quail]

Just go and lose it in a run

[brave marten]

then why are you complaining, this isnt arc, boy. people will run ya pockets

[stable cloak]

its just funny how he sits up there ratting

[nova stump]

You know since they changed it to be green kits you can spam mida permanently now

[fallen flint]

it makes you feel like a 70s action movie star on a foreign planet

[brave marten]

found the arc player

[worldly cliff]

wait that's a great description ngl

[wheat flax]

I suddenly forget how to aim when I’m shooting the magnum specifically.

[unreal vector]

i like the way you think

[inland quail]

And you didn't believe me when I said you're getting better.
It's time for you to go to dire marsh and wipe the lobby

[drowsy stag]

He knows

[tepid latch]

Honestly most games that arent flops have so little bugs these days that it kills the soul 🥀
We need SOME quirks

[fallen flint]

oh i'm spamming mida!

[timid rain]

Any mods for shells you don't play. I have a bunch of purple and blue mods so I sell off green ones. Two stacks of ammo for each type is enough. Green backpacks are sold. Some guns can be bought in the armory so to save storage, you sell those ones.

[inland quail]

I mean that's the whole point. Use your stuff and get better

[stable cloak]

you?

[worldly cliff]

i think it's one of those things that you know missing a shot is gonna be a major issue so you're fearful to even shoot in the first place 🙂‍↕️ treat every fight like you have twice their health and it'll help

[humble depot]

i currently don't have a reason to head there lol, i'm at truth/lies 5/5 and after that, god willing, I can finish co-evolution 5/5 and wrap up all contracts for the game (...and then do what?)

[inland quail]

guy tries to maximize chances of survival in survival shooter
reeeeee rat rat ratting

omegalul

[brave marten]

says the fetus who cant handle a little pvp

[stable cloak]

idk what part ur not understanding 😂 IQ must be low

[inland quail]

Compiler

[unreal vector]

I see, thank you!

[fallen flint]

i love how each shell gets a little bit of the other shells' ult... like destroyer is a tank but can kind of move like vandal in some ways.... everyone hates on recon but you get the same effect from the proximity sensor and TADs... and thief gets a little bit of everything. her visor is sort of like recon inverted. she knows where the enemies are if there's line of sight. and she has her spiderman move which is half like vandals powerslide and half like destroyer's thrusters. i could go on... it's all very balanced

[brave marten]

you won but still are complaining. sounds like a weak player, boy

[mortal seal]

We don’t need a safe pocket for this reason, what you earn from failed runs is knowledge

[elder parrot]

Update: He doxxed one of my teammates who spoke out against him in a social group (a QQ app group — in China). My teammate is now on his way to the local police station.

[stable cloak]

Ratting and losing is insane, u seem to rat and lose a lot tho if ur sympathizing

[tepid latch]

Can you all stop fighting and kiss already

[brave marten]

nah i rook and make you chumps cry the N word

[eager forum]

I have a nucal contract that would allow me to unblock blue shield and I need to send to dcon enzyme replicator. Apparently there would be enzyme replicator in processing but where cannot find

[humble depot]

don't think i'm skilled and lucky enough for that but i'll give it a shot at some point

[merry flame]

I wanna scream

[inland quail]

I generally agree, but I'm not totally against of safe pocket if devs decide that it would be good addition

[stable cloak]

u rook? LOL that explains everything pooron

[mortal seal]

I don’t need one so it only benefits me, I prefer not having one tho

[nova stump]

Do you guys ever think about being on Tau Ceti being like a small snippet of life in the Wild West? Fighting for your life, sometimes parlaying with people who could backstab you? It’s an interesting dynamic

[worldly cliff]

what's wrong with rook 😔

[merry flame]

How do I keep getting matches against purple players when I have only green kit?

[brave marten]

my full auto mishrahs would spit on your vault lmao

[mortal seal]

Rooks the 2nd best part of the game 😭😭😭😭

[merry flame]

*S'phit

[stable cloak]

how is a full auto misriah a flex, how poor r u

[humble depot]

that's a new word

[agile root]

you’ll just hate dire more

[tepid latch]

Rook was good but now that freekits are so much better, rook is kind of pointless. Better to play a strong solo character imo.
Rook needs an overhaul

[brave marten]

i dont talk to the poors, boy

[merry flame]

@quartz remnant Do you wanna kiss?

[wheat flax]

Yea Its the size too. Something about how much space it takes space on screen completely throws me off. Second I miss first two shots with it Im panicking a little. It’s kinda why I wish the game had a firing range so you can get used to shooting some guns you might not use as often

[stable cloak]

U are a poors boy, get ur bread up and learn to pvp

[nova stump]

Imagine hating on playing one of the best experiences

[tepid latch]

I love rook but he needs to be more interesting or powerful

[brave marten]

sit, boy

[worldly cliff]

i mean i'm not gonna lie and say he's the best shell or anything, but just doing rook runs for fun is a top 3 experience on this game

[stable cloak]

same height as u standing

[inland quail]

Not everyone can be like you 🤷

[wheat flax]

Rook gets real interesting when you see 3 together and they’re jumping you

[humble depot]

oh yeah, that is true

[brave marten]

you keep telling yourself that kirk lookalike

[mortal seal]

It’s not too hard to improve at this game, they certainly can I am straight ass

[nova stump]

He’s not meant to be powerful. He’s a scavenger picking up loot left behind that runners miss or dont take.

[worldly cliff]

honestly i hate using the v11 punch (i think that's the name) because every time i sprint half my screen is gone 😭

[tepid latch]

Its fun but like... freekit assassin could achieve the same things with better abilities and stats for solo play

[wheat flax]

Really good for getting materials for upgrades too.

[brave marten]

dont become a sprinkler system now

[hexed wigeon]

where do you even find gold bully mod at

[mortal seal]

Ferrari fan makes sense

[inland quail]

You are severely underestimate work needed for to be put in for improvement

[stable cloak]

all u crying at me

[quasi sonnet]

Kill people on cryo

[worldly cliff]

that's true but then you're also put into solo lobbies 😵‍💫 truly no man's land out there

[tepid latch]

I get that, but they should commit. Either way but one way or another.
Make him much better or the lnly option for scav runs, or make him more interesting.

Rn i get more out of scaving as a normal shell

[dark rampart]

Key rooms, off peoples bodies in Cryo, barter in Traxus/Ganglion trade

[hexed wigeon]

but where do they find it

[brave marten]

whoosh

[mortal seal]

If you improve 1% every run, 30 runs is 30% improvement

[wheat flax]

I’m glad I’m not alone on
That 😭It feels like you have to get the gun outta your face half the time. Maybe a bigger fov would help it just feels so close

[quasi sonnet]

Ganglion barter pinnacle room Traxus daily gold weapon key rooms

[agile root]

good traxus shop rng, other players, & i also got 2 from the red key room. seen like 3 or 4 in there

[inland quail]

While your math is incorrect, actual numbers for improvement is much lower than 1%

[nova stump]

@quartz remnant you should probably talk. Wouldn’t want your time sitting in vc doing nothing but spamming the same emotes to go to waste

[humble depot]

wait, sony just recorded a "$560 Million Loss On Bungie Acquisition"?!?! that's insane

[worldly cliff]

a lot of games let u change the gun size on the screen 😭😭 i wish they'd do that. it's so scary running with a pistol out in this game

[inland quail]

What fov are you playing at?

[mortal seal]

Nah it’s an honest system, marginal gains. It will win you Olympic golds

[obtuse orchid]

Got absolutely ravaged in cryo. Lost a lot of gold stuff. Two wins, then three losses. Felt bad - but I'm 100 credits up and got another subroutine. Life is OK. It's good, even

[nova stump]

Valuation went from 3.6b to 3.1b yeah

[eager forum]

Yeah but there is no surprise bungie was overpaid anyway

[inland quail]

720 million actually

[sly owl]

yep not good

[wheat flax]

They are but I also feel like if you’re really observant you can learn something from every fight win or lose.personally I feel like every full wipe I’ve come out with a new thing to try to get upper hand.

[humble depot]

that's nuts lol

[mortal seal]

Rookie numbers compared to sport

[eager forum]

Honestly how could sony think that bungie was more than 3 billions I dont know

[nova stump]

I don’t think Marathon is included, it’s too close to the next fiscal year

[sly owl]

marathon is definitely included lol

[brave marten]

was about to say this is a drop in the bucket for companies these days dealing in billions

[inland quail]

Your math is off. 1% each game over 30 games is more than 30%. It's compounding

[nova stump]

Witch Queen was a REALLY good expansion.

[mortal seal]

Marginal gains

[humble depot]

MSFT bought the ENTIRETY of Bethesda (Fallout, Doom, TES, Wolfenstein) for like 2x of that

what the hell made sony think that one studio was worth all that??

[worldly cliff]

taco bell burritos are like $6. everything is out of whack rn

[wheat flax]

I wanna say I’ve slid it to max which I think is 120? I would not be surprised if it’s changed and I didn’t realize it cause my visual settings never seem to stick in marathon. I’ve turned of DLAA several times specifically only to find out it’s back on instead of balanced mode.

[nova stump]

Wasn’t marathon only around for the last like 4 months of the fiscal year?

[inland quail]

Yeah, you can. But for it you need to be at certain level of introspection and presence of mind not only to understand what you did wrong but ability to put it into practice

[brave marten]

i still dont talk to the poor, boy. now go back to your squalor

[mortal seal]

Brother I’ve seen my club waste 100 million on the worst winger I’ve ever had the displeasure of witnessing costing us over 500m easily

[leaden spoke]

„We don‘t want a PvE mode, it will split the player base“!

looks inside

Endgame is…. farming Compiler, which is a PvE experience

[mystic fable]

Damn. That reevaluation of bungie 🤣

[sly owl]

Brother Bungie has done nothing but work on this game, there other game is on life support, the 700 million is definitely mainly because of this game.

[mortal seal]

So if Ferraris trophy cabinet in recent years

[eager forum]

Irony being that PvE mode is gatekept for people being good at PvP

[humble depot]

you have any theories?

[brave marten]

crying into gold vault rn

[worldly cliff]

hey man hamilton won that single sprint last year

[obtuse orchid]

fortunately im from the future, and I can say Marathon is lasting for at least 2.5 more years

[mortal seal]

That he got disqualified from?

[nova stump]

I miss raids

[worldly cliff]

wait did he get dsq'd from china 😭 i cant remember

[drowsy stag]

Guys. I have almost maxed out cyberAcme and Arachne. On whose other tasks should I focus on?

[obtuse orchid]

no i didnt get the lottery numbers stop asking me. why would I memorize lottery numbers if I wasn't going to travel back in time on purpose.

bet it all on the cavaliers btw

[quasi sonnet]

What was the point going 2.5 years in the past?

[mortal seal]

Just kill everyone else first then you can have a PvE mode

[wheat flax]

I genuinely try to avoid it unless I absolutely have no other option out the gate. I do like the charge on V11 tho. If it hits it hits hard.

[dark rampart]

Traxus if you want a gold weapon mod daily

[brave marten]

i bet your car smells like mcdonalds and cigarettes

[obtuse orchid]

accident

[drowsy stag]

Everyone got different opinions 😞

[valid nacelle]

😤 Earn your right to PvE 🙃

[mortal seal]

Ur pfp is a Ferrari no?

[worldly cliff]

v11 is sooooo so good if you can get headshots 🙂‍↕️ just too bulky on the screen

[quasi sonnet]

Arachne only one u need other factions suck (lwk a bit of cope bc I never did factions besides Arachne)

[sly owl]

lmao this chat bro 😭

[brave marten]

at least get creative. its like arguing with an HVAC tech

[humble depot]

PvE should legit be a thing ASAP

[eager forum]

Raids should be opened to anyone, and if you are good in PvE then if you want you can play PvPvE. The latest mode being more rewarding. But now they did the opposite. You have the best loot and reward in a PvE mode (compiler) and in order to get access to it you need to be good in PvP. I dont know it is odd

[inland quail]

TES hasn't had a game in 15 years
Last fallout games were flops
Doom is not bethesda's property I think, they're just publishing it

[dark rampart]

Nucal is fine because you start getting purple shields at lvl 20 as rewards, but in the long term a gold weapon mod daily will probably be the most beneficial to you

[mortal seal]

The reason they don’t have a PvE mode is a skill issue

[drowsy stag]

🫃 🎀

[leaden spoke]

Crazy that the die hard extraction shooter fans who insist this is a PvP game are obsessed with the PvE endgame and refuse to acknowledge it

[storm fog]

anyway soon dead

[wheat flax]

Lowkey I bet the avg players biggest mistake is getting caught alone 🤡or rushing multiple enemies alone that have higher gear

[humble depot]

Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 are ABSOLUTELY not flops

Bethesda owns iD who owns the Doom IP so technically they own Doom

[drowsy stag]

Hmm. How much those shields will cost?

[valid nacelle]

What they fail to understand is it’s PvPvE 😏

[mortal seal]

Fallout 76 took fallout out back and shot it? The show revived it and even then it pisses people off

[quasi sonnet]

And the pve endgame would be boring if there was no pvp to get there

[inland quail]

FPS games boil down to positioning and mechanical ability to shoot

[sly owl]

looks like we have another react spammer

[humble depot]

face me, @quartz remnant

[worldly cliff]

idk how people enjoy doing this

[serene basalt]

crazy that you dont think its coming this games dead and they have to make money so pve or easy mode is coming

[drowsy stag]

How can you make non PvE endgame?

[dark rampart]

You cant buy purple shields until you completely max out Nucal💀, most ppl lvl 200 barely have that done and they are 4.5k each

[wheat flax]

That too for sure.

[mortal seal]

I always call it PvPve, I would call arc PvEvp, I wouldn’t take the uesc out same way I wouldn’t take out the PvP

[sly owl]

idk he should put that effort into something useful instead

[inland quail]

Huh, didn't know that bethesda owns id.
Fallout 4 was 11 years ago
Yeah, my bad on fallout 76, I mainly remembered it from reviews

[worldly cliff]

truth 🙂‍↕️

[drowsy stag]

Oh😭

[quasi sonnet]

If your level 200 and barely maxing out nucal your either not going for it or u just suck icl

[sterile tinsel]

Yall can block torv and he wonmt be able to react to you

[leaden spoke]

Nah, this is some sort of vanity project, it‘s the only explanation for choosing extraction shooter as the gameplay loop.

They won‘t add PvE because it would hurt egos internally.

[valid nacelle]

I don’t think it’s enjoyment lol

[worldly cliff]

thank you this is good news

[dark rampart]

It just takes a lot of hazard capsules tbh

[humble depot]

fallout 76 has been going strong for almost a decade so idk where you're getting that

[inland quail]

I mean I don't consider compiler as the endgame.
Compiler fight is braindead as basically every PvE boss ever. Getting to that point is what's hard

[sterile tinsel]

I hope they don’t add pve tbh. This game is great and just needs methods for evading teams better like silent exfil (especially for perimeter and darsh. Not really neccessary for outpost and cryo)

[leaden spoke]

Ranked should have been the endgame, and it should start you out with only a knife

[humble depot]

woo, lessgoo

[mortal seal]

The launch and Phil Spencer’s house getting spam nuked

[brave marten]

this is his 9/11

[quasi sonnet]

Yea if your level 200 u should have enough tho I feel like at least if I were trying to max out factions which I don’t I would’ve had it done by now easy and I’m level 156 I’ve had way more than enough hazard capsules

I just didnt care about factions and there’s only a few weeks left so I see no reason of going for them now

[humble depot]

so... BR?

[valid nacelle]

Factos

[sterile tinsel]

I always see people talk about ranked having set loadouts and be the endgame and it’s like… what’s the point of an endgame where you can’t use anything you’ve gathered

[compact hazel]

1. floats ominously 2. shoots laser 3. balls

peak pve lol

[leaden spoke]

This game is already a battle royale. It‘s why the meta is lobby wipes.

[serene basalt]

lol its mental they made this game eft is a much better game and arcs got it right in balance for casual and sweaty players. Plus the fact nobody trust bungie anymore and there little content for a 7 year game.

[mystic fable]

Hey. Nice quarterly projections and P/E 🫃 🤣

[drowsy stag]

[sly owl]

lmao

[valid nacelle]

Yay I got the “🤡” that was EZ

Thanks @quartz remnant 🫶

[mortal sequoia]

7 is a lot better than 6 and is a prime

[leaden spoke]

Because this is a PvP game, not a looter shooter. If you care about loot, go play Destiny 2.

[tall bloom]

one must wipe the lobby
like one wipes an ass after a shit

[drowsy stag]

Torveo do you love me🙏

[reef plank]

Bro this same guy has been doing this for like weeks lmao

[dark rampart]

Guess it depends im lvl 144 and i need like 8 left to max but i barely play anymore, i get all of the other golds all the time though but maybe it will change now that i can farm compiler, i was over exaggerating though for sure

[worldly cliff]

there's some odd characters in this server

[sterile tinsel]

I think this fact, that the game is pvp intensive, is why players are dropping it. I think most people just don’t want to have to pvp all the time. Which is why we need better mechanics for silent or avoidant playstyles

[mortal sequoia]

Why don't you play anymore?

[reef plank]

260 and I’m missing like 10 hazard caps for maxing out all my factions and I have like 20-30 compiler kills😭

[humble depot]

marathon would deffo get a massive surge of players if it has a narratively strong PvE mode with like, aliens (like the compiler) and shit

[mortal seal]

If it dies, I can have no effect on the game dying and Sony shutting down. I liked the vision and got more out of my £40 and 50hrs than guys with 400hrs who didn’t like the game once and begged it to be D3

[reef plank]

And I have everything VIP, like I focused the quests the haz caps are just insane you genuinely need like 25 of them it’s so insane

[leaden spoke]

Careful saying that in here, the extraction shooter die hards will clown emoji and wheelchair-user emoji you because they can’t call you slurs

[serene basalt]

i dont think even that would save it players dont give second chances

[nova stump]

I find it funny seeing how fewer and fewer react emotes are just appearing

[valid nacelle]

Umm PvPvE actually ☝️🤓

[inland quail]

I only wish it was steel balls

[dark rampart]

Friends quit and i dont really feel like lfg'ing or crew filling all the time, ill hop on once in a while but yeah idk, plus ive done all vaults and Compiler so im kind of just taking it slow

[mortal seal]

Guy blocked everyone after he got annoyed at his own ragebait

[worldly cliff]

if everyone blocks him then maybe there can be peace

[arctic narwhal]

are they starting lobbies without the full amount of teams? LOL swear there was only like 3 teams on my cryo run

[inland quail]

Insane takes omegalul pure ragebait

[sterile tinsel]

I think so

[brave marten]

this is his only form of human connection, dude will implode

[quasi sonnet]

Yea to get all factions it’s insane gold salvage still needs a buff

[leaden spoke]

Yeah they changed the matchmaking to start runs without full player counts

[dark rampart]

Yes i had runs with 4 teams earlier and some with 5

[reef plank]

I think the argument those people are trying (very poorly) to make is that these changes, if implemented, shouldn’t impact eh core archetype of the game and alienate the strong dedicated, but small fan base it currently has. Bringing in new players should be good but it should be through progression streamlining or a well implemented PvE mode (which could take multiple seasons which no one thinks about) , or something along those lines

[worldly cliff]

maybe it's for the better

[astral snow]

fr. Kinda glad that ARC has brought in unprecedented level of attention to this extraction genre like no other games could, but it also brings in more casul (me), so another chill way to play is a must i feel

[nova stump]

Imagine we get Verity in Marathon. That would genuinely hospitalise some players

[brave marten]

sometimes the ends do justify the means

[hardy lantern]

Devs hear my plea! Marathon is too competitive! A bot drained me after I shot it so I think we should replace the pve with visual novel style combat.

[serene basalt]

mate this games dying and its not rage bait i live in the uk and here nobody really plays it.

[lost bough]

Fr?

[inland quail]

I don't know what that is

[drowsy stag]

Why there is so many Sekiguchi fans here

[reef plank]

Awful raid encounter

[leaden spoke]

The problem is, the „small die hard fanbase of extraction shooter sweats“ is like 0.1% of the gaming market while they think they are 90% of it

[quasi sonnet]

Last cryo game we killed 3 teams in 10 mins the wasnt anymore I would imagine whole lobby isn’t dead in 10 mins

[sterile tinsel]

Yeah!!!! Like the game doesn’t have to mechanically change at all. The pvp is just so easy to find in this game that if you can’t find any pvp you’re doimg something wrong, are unlucky, or there just arent enough people in your lobby

[nova stump]

Salvation’s Edge fourth encounter. Infamously difficult to understand.

[tall bloom]

i’m at 250 hours at lvl 130 smtbing

let’s assume ur way better than me and have only 400 hours to be lvl 260

marathon has been out for 1.5k hours

you would have spent 1/4 of the time since launch playing marathon

assuming u sleep for 6 hours a day you have spent a third of your waking time playing marathon

YOU NEED TO TOUCH GRASS

[dark rampart]

Someone said they killed one team 5 minutes in on Cryo and then ran around to each spawn and there wasnt a soul

[leaden spoke]

Yeah, they had to do it because player counts are too low to do full-count matchmaking

[reef plank]

Im a chemical engineering student I do plenty outside of gaming 😭

[arctic narwhal]

it might be random depending on the time of day. went this whole run without finding a team until they opened vault 1, and then we found a team they killed prob

[sterile tinsel]

I think casuals would find avoiding pvp just as exciting as pvp itself tbh

[lost bough]

Wowza

[hardy lantern]

I mean on one hand it's nice because faster queues and more freedom to do pve on the other it's a bummer because it can mean the devs losing faith in the player base.

[inland quail]

EFT is not a better game and arc is aimed for kids aged 3 to 5.
Player counts are not useful metric to determine quality of a game

[drowsy stag]

It randomly happens

[nova stump]

I think it’s just practical

[crisp cloak]

We were doing cryo earlier and skirted around the teams. Clean in and out, and I got the Vidmaster achievement to boot.

[sly owl]

arc is not meant for kids age 3-5 now, lets be real lmao

[valid nacelle]

They should add more casual features for accessibility but I think the extraction shooter nature has insane potential.

I think this vibe will be very different when we have a full reimplementation of the Pfhore on Tau Ceti Pasta

[leaden spoke]

Player counts are definitely an indicator of the appeal of a game to the market

[inland quail]

Drop out

[quasi sonnet]

I helped some randoms doing a vault 6 key so I kinda tried a bit that game lwk felt bad for the lobby they every team died in seconds and they were holding us every fight lol

[tall bloom]

i’m a double major in cs and math and i party every weekend

my girlfriend is mad at how much i play and i prob have half the time online as you

no way u have a life

[hardy lantern]

True, arc targets the 3 to 11 months only demographic.

[inland quail]

Appeal yes, maybe. But if we're going by this logic everything should be mobile games because they have the largest appeal

[reef plank]

I have a gf, part time campus job, and a 3.9 bro idk it’s really not that insane 😭 the bulk of my playtime is closer to launch and has evened out to a couple of hours a day max, this week I haven’t played any because of finals, playtime fluctuates and averages out to that number but long days when I have huge gaps averages out w days where I don’t play at all

[dark rampart]

Idk why but my first Cryo game on i killed a gold team that had a vault 6 key and a dna also, guess they were going to try to run both or something

[worldly cliff]

why're you even concerned about it though...

[leaden spoke]

Welcome to The School of Business Suit Thinking

[sly owl]

yea thats more like it, my nephew was just born the other day and hes already queuing up on weekends

[sweet bolt]

so since this chat is 10x more active then the lfg chat.. anyone down to run some we need 1 lmao

[nova stump]

What region

[reef plank]

Idk tbh

[quasi sonnet]

I agree I have no job rn and I’m only level 156 although I don’t play the whole day I play maybe 4-5 hours a day

[inland quail]

I want to ragebait a little too.
If I'm being serious ofc it's not meant for kids, but the skill floor are low

[tall bloom]

spending 1/3 of your waking hours playing a video game is a mental health concern

[hardy lantern]

His first words were "friendly friendly don't shoot"

[serene basalt]

mate eft is the best extraction shooter out there, and your wrong 3 to 5 lol all the top streamers played the game for months its massive and cost a fraction of this. your delusional. this game unfortunately just is good for a couple off hours then its move on to the next game. its becoming boring

[drowsy stag]

I have 90 hours 🙂

[inland quail]

That's why I can't fault bungie for making something out there and making it good. Maybe not the best financial decision, but it's a damn good game

[thin glen]

eft only became good with the pve mode tho

[sly owl]

or "hey raider!"

[valid nacelle]

EFT does somethings better, a full campaign for one. Also deeper systems of player freedom when it comes to engagements.

Marathon is still amazing tho.

[tall bloom]

real i don’t know how people who aren’t making money playing video games are getting 200+ and sustaining a healthy lifestyle

[reef plank]

Perfectly healthy man I appreciate the concern ig 😭 you’d lose your mind at the guy in here a couple days ago who had like 23 or 29k hours on vr chat, run those numbers

[worldly cliff]

if that's what someone wants to do then let them do it ig? we'll never meet a soul on the other end of this screen, so isn't it best to accept them as is rather than berate people who aren't concerned about it 😭

[leaden spoke]

Agreed. I play Marathon in spite of it being an extraction shooter. I play it for the good PvP, art direction, sound design, and lore.

I also recognize that the majority of players don‘t want to sweat 100% of their gaming time.

[tall bloom]

i mean 29k out of a 100k+ hours since vr chat has come out is less then you’ve spent playing marathon

ratio wise

[quasi sonnet]

I mean it’s not that crazy tho sleep 8 hours work 8 hours play the game 5 hours it’s honestly not crazy

[drowsy stag]

@quartz remnant why are you not texting

[tall bloom]

i’d rather shame them into going on a walk

get some mild cardio and vitamin D

[hardy lantern]

Nah he had to make sure his own parents were not rats. What if they pvp him at spawn?

[valid nacelle]

He a shook 1

[reef plank]

😭 these are not comparable situations considering one is over 14years

[mystic fable]

Prob would’ve done better as a tdm game

[dark rampart]

Theres a dude with 1.3k hours on Marathon already so i mean, at least hes not that

[drowsy stag]

Iran doesn’t let you?

[nova stump]

My parents pvp’d my brother at spawn 😔

[reef plank]

Think Alex ape is at like 800 and he’s like 450

[worldly cliff]

that just doesn't work 🙂‍↕️

[leaden spoke]

Destiny 2 unironically had PvE and PvP modes and nobody was complaining about that

[drowsy stag]

[serene basalt]

i only played pvp as i bought it in 2018 but i liked both. i did the new content pve as i wanted to get through the story quicker. This game after you beat cryo has nothing maps are small cryos time gated, and there are 3 maps. oh and whats bunghole giving us in season 2 night time runs on a map we already have total lack of content.

[mystic fable]

D2 PvP was bad. Pve was good. D1 PvP was amazing. Pve was mid.

[sand rampart]

literally who cares lol. if it were another hobby you likely wouldn't blink an eye

[reef plank]

I think I’m at like 320 hours btw if you were curious, maybe tipping 360 or somewhere in there

[thin glen]

🫃
🦵

[hardy lantern]

And he had a fre kit, so tragic.

[dark rampart]

Yeah one of Diffizles teammates or something had 1.3k, someone in chat said i bet you have 500 hours and bro checked his friends profile and it said 1.3k💀

[valid nacelle]

This one triggered em, I got the “🏳️‍⚧️” & “♿️”

ig he uses them as insults but jokes on him; I know badasses in both communities ☝️🤓☝️😎

[reef plank]

Holy FUCK 😭

[inland quail]

Tarkov is a good game (maybe not always implementation wise) and it's genre defining. But let's be real, full campaign is a new thing that just got released.
I agree on the engagements and general freedom of builds and playstyles. Compared to that marathon is more stremlined, but I think that's because of trying to make it more appealing to casuals.
(I think we can agree that marathon is more casual friendly than Tarkov)

[tall bloom]

honestly i’m impressed asf ur at 260 with 320 hours ur exfill rate gotta b crazy

[leaden spoke]

Half that time is spent in the loading screen and in looking for group channels

[dark rampart]

Probably has it on 24/7 even while sleeping

[quasi sonnet]

Lwk tho afk hours I leave my games running all night long sometimes I think I’ve had Val opened for like a month at one point

[inland quail]

Sun is a deadly lazer and outside is scary

[steady mica]

Its honestly shocking how little content there is. They just gated everything behind high difficult and absurd random chance.

[valid nacelle]

Definitely we can agree on that

[mystic fable]

Why would casual play either when they can play casual catered arc.

[reef plank]

I run high kill cryo and ranked games and shit man it’s not that hard to level, I don’t do any material farming or anything and I got my contracts done weeks ago

[worldly cliff]

sun gives cancer, it's better to stay inside 🙏🙏

[dark rampart]

I think my most played game ever is like 4k hours and that was during covid era

[humble depot]

the mode would attract a different kind of players so

[steady mica]

How about attracting just more players?

[valid nacelle]

I think the Marathon that has all the fully implemented narrative hooks along side the new equipment and runners we will have at that point will feel like a much deeper experience.

Hopefully at that point they have streamlined the onboarding.

The thing is, their history with onboarding from Destiny is my only worry.

[serene basalt]

its bonkers 7 years and four maps. they made d1 and d2 in less time and they had full planets ffs

[hardy lantern]

Not anymore, there is ozone.

[primal wind]

What game? 4K is absolutely unimaginable to me, I would get burnt out way before that. I think I m at like 600 for overwatch

[inland quail]

Because there is, or I thought/hoped there is players like me who want middle ground between Nikita's ball crusher and carebear PvE snoozefest

[eager forum]

Plus the maps are small

[leaden spoke]

Honestly I can get over this game being an extraction shooter, but what really annoys me (and I think why most of the casuals are dropping it too) is the RNG system is abysmally bad, and you have to PvP other players combined with the RNG to get stuff like Cryo keys. That‘s just not respectful of a player‘s time.

[dark rampart]

It was a game called Phantasy Star Online 2

[quasi sonnet]

I have like 9k hours on fn like 20k on mc smth around there 3-4k on Val and like 6k on Roblox lol

[reef plank]

I’ll never know but my warframe estimate is somewhere between 4-8k

Played it since Xbox launch when I was way younger so I’ll never really know

[sand rampart]

have we looped back around to people begging for pve

[mystic fable]

You can step out of the pve at any time just by shooting 1 person.

[humble depot]

this is confirmed?

[primal wind]

Ohhh nice yea that game does look sick. MMO yea?

[thin glen]

huh Wildgate is on sale for like $10
get on it

[tall bloom]

staring at a screen all day is degrading ur brain

sitting down for prolonged periods of time is very bad for your overall health

video games instead of socializing is bad for your mental health

there are plenty of hobbies that are great to spend 1 out of 3 hours every day doing but video games isn’t one of them

if at least one person sees my posts and decides to do somthing healthier once a week instead of gaming i’m happy

i’m saying this as someone who got super addicted to this game when it came out and gave fake excuses to the homies for why i wouldn’t go out when i would b gaming

[serene basalt]

yeah i like the game its passed some time but your smoking some heavy stuff if you think this games got content.

[mellow granite]

No

[mellow pivot]

Long live the Marathon

[chilly goblet]

Does anyone else play controller and kbm. Kbm for 100 plus meter fights and looting. Controller for everything else

[inland quail]

Yeah you can. Game is still mainly focused around PvE content

[dark rampart]

Yeah

[raven lintel]

Cryo keys are such and ez farm in red room outpost tho, the only rng in this game really is gold salvage

[peak herald]

It’s bugged bro. Games are starting with as little as 2 parties in them sometimes right now.

[valid nacelle]

Dipping their toes into something new as their gamer hood expands a bit.

You can engage with Tarkov in more casual ways lately with the inclusion of their own pve mode.

Marathon can do something similar with Bot runner squads, with well trained AI

[thin glen]

10 squats every 1 hour and talking to my dog, i'm alright

[mystic fable]

And the audience is big

[humble depot]

no looping here lol

[sand rampart]

gaming and having healthy habits are not mutually exclusive. People who already have poor mental health tend to struggle socially and fall back on other means of connection.

[serene basalt]

bungie defo is not the company it was i mean look at the state of d2 players are going back to d1, they should have remastered that and left it as it was

[mellow pivot]

I don't think the Marathon wont get closed as long as it operates at a new positive . It might get sold for 50-100 million to get the money back. But the game can still earn money well enough through microtransactions, they just need to be more aggressive

[humble depot]

but not too aggressive

[eager forum]

I wonder what changed in this company original developper left?

[mellow pivot]

Maybe there is 1 more map that was prepared for future seasons ?

[raven lintel]

If they did it well it could be good, but that would also be taking dev time away from the main part of the game, and I don’t think they can afford to slack off on keeping the core game updated and getting new content

[tall bloom]

for sure i was super depressed senior year of highschool and put hella time into d2

i went from being top 30 in the country in rock climbing to being a bum

if one person sees my posts and gets motivated to improve themselves im happy i just don’t want more people to fall into the rabbit hole

[mystic fable]

To earn money through mtx, you need a player base that spends.

[serene basalt]

will it last another season??

[inland quail]

Yes, majority of current gamers don't want games to challenge them. They want to have "fun" and relax. That's not a bad thing, but it doesn't appeal to me. And I don't understand entitlement of some people that every game must cater to such gamers.

[thin glen]

haha RAbbit Hole i know that virgin song too

[sand rampart]

Gaming certainly isn't a replacement for actual socializing but are we really even doing that for real most of the time when half of us are hunched over our phones texting or calling instead lmao

[quasi sonnet]

Didn’t destiny 2 have multiple times where it was almost completely dead. Initial cost was expensive but if numbers stay around where they are now the games fine for years tbh

[serene basalt]

all the talent left when sony paid the 3.5 bill took there shares and lit a cigar lol

[reef plank]

Man this is just such like “do good” that it comes off as white knighting. I get what you’re saying but if someone has a decent life, is happy, healthy, has a social life etc that THEYRE content with, it’s not really your place to tell them they game too much and that they should change their habits to a more preferred form to you if they’re happy w their current life. Just because I life w more people in it sounds better to YOU doesn’t mean it necessarily does to them. I get where you’re coming from but it’s a bit control freak-ish to say to random people on the internet 😭

[eager forum]

Understandable they must be appreciating life now

[mellow pivot]

While Sony are not smart for overpaying so much money for Bungie, Marathon haters are not real gamers. They lack skill and compassion, Marathon has a high potential so this game needs to be saved. It doesn't matter who will be owning this game it just needs to exist. Mona Lisa is overpriced but still a piece of art

[sly owl]

bungie had a very dedicated playerbase, which always came back

[quasi sonnet]

I mean I understand it when your older u come home from work and just wanna have fun

[serene basalt]

yeah we aint tho lol

[inland quail]

I already accepted mtx in games as a given. Hell, I'm even ready to spend my spare cash on them, but please make it at least 6.5/10 good 😭

[mystic fable]

It’s a numbers game, brother. It’s live service and must cater to the larger audience. That way, statistically, a portion of that large audience spends. It’s da business.

[humble depot]

season 2 should definitely have come with at least one other ACTUAL map but geez, they actually thought night dire marsh was enough content after a 3 month wait and for 3 more months

[steady mica]

I don't think that is true at all. And for what its worth having a game where you die a lot and have to grind out the RNG is not really challenging. Its just a grind.

[quasi sonnet]

Agreed a reskin of a map is lame hopefully mid season drops a new map

[peak herald]

Some people are reporting that games are starting with as little as themselves and 1 other team. I had several games today where there were only 3-4 teams in the lobby.

Marathon devs and introducing a brand new massive bug into their production build every single patch are an inseparable couple at this point.

[eager forum]

They just didnt test their game before launching it there is no way they thought the gaming experience when the game launched was good

[small kite]

is anyone else getting only 3 teams total in outpost?

[mellow pivot]

We will see at the start of season 2, but hate on this game has impacted its sales dramatically.A lot of people even refuse to check the game after the new updates.

[hardy lantern]

I am just wondering if all the maps in the game are small then what size for a map is considered medium?

[latent crest]

no way

[sly owl]

matchmaking is strange rn, supposedly because of playercount

[humble depot]

something is deffo going on, at least with outpost cuz there's barely any gunshots or bodies in my runs

[serene basalt]

i ddont think they know what to do with this game its losing players everry day by the hundreds and it mostly played in the us i live in uk and theres barely anyone on till the us wake up

[peak herald]

Dire marsh

[sand rampart]

I'm ashamed to say i actually love marathon enough to have spent a not-insignificant amount on cosmetics and extra copies for my friends

[eager forum]

Double outpost. Add some building make the game more vertical

[inland quail]

From the company perspective yes. Then again why would you make anything except mobile games?
As you can see this game is already made and being liked by some people and still you see suggestions to make it more casual friendly. People that suggest this kind of changes don't actually care about company profits, they care about having a game for them

[sand rampart]

I've bought 5 copies so far i think

[thin glen]

likely to have an urban-style map on the marathon ship tbh

[quasi sonnet]

Bungie said they would support the game for years and it would be stupif to pull the plug on the game so early they clearly have a big budget for the game still

[humble depot]

Battlefield 6 comes with 2-3 maps every season and those are MUCH larger than this game's 🫩

[eager forum]

It would reduce friction between players allowing those who are not very good in PvP to play stealth loot and eventually exfil

[sand rampart]

It's really funny how people will beg for the game to be aligned with their vision of how it should be and then turn around and deny it when you mention it

[peak herald]

It’s possible they quietly tweaked something with the matchmaker due to the player count falling below a certain threshold, but if they did they aren’t owning up to it publicly.

[tall bloom]

i mean i get what your saying but
content /= good

no one has to listen to me
what got me out of my depressive gaming obsession in highschool was a random dude giving me a motivational speech during a crotas raid in d2

i’m drunk af and thought i’d reply to ur post that had ur level where i could promote a healthier lifestyle

[inland quail]

Sure, I can understand it. But market is already dominated by such games, just pick one out of a million. Don't try to take games intended for smaller audiences from them

[latent crest]

and their poorly made, every buidling has 20 windows and no point where you can hold down a spot

[mystic fable]

Yeah. I gave my suggestions early on to make game fun for casual boy like me. I don’t think it would’ve saved the game, but it would’ve been a step to keep me and likeminded bois. I don’t wanna fight sweats in 9/10 raids.

[mortal seal]

Bf6 best selling game of 2025 has layoffs, no one is safe

[serene basalt]

they said that about concord too. but sonys not even advertising this which dosent look good

[sly owl]

bungie also said marathon wouldnt affect destiny 2 at all, yet they have kept them in the dark for months without a word, their word isnt set in stone.

[latent crest]

Yep, the gun play was good but the maps

[mortal seal]

Is it a PvE mode?

[peak herald]

Testament to how important good marketing and a trailer is.

[quasi sonnet]

Tbh tho I think a battlefield map is far easier to make than one for a game like this and I’m sure battlefield has way more people working on it

[eager forum]

For sony closing the game so fast would be very bad PR so I guess they are there for like 1 year watching how the game is doing

[brave marten]

concord sold less than 25k units, thats not a fair comparison

[mortal seal]

It tried to become cod, and did in the worst ways possible

[humble depot]

that's just one of season 1's maps, seasons 2's maps are really good

[latent crest]

real

[mystic fable]

I wanted change in contracts, and adjustment to matchmaking.

[mellow pivot]

Honestly it is a very stupid idea. I don't want everything to cater to the larger audience. Despite me thinking that marathon balance is flawed and unfriendly for new players I would rather have this than something that I have seen before. Bungie tried to force people to play a non-trivial game and they have mostly failed but it doesn't mean they did the wrong thing.

To be fair maybe Marathon would be successful if it was a single player game with an optional co-op, that way people with 6 kids and 5 jobs would eventually be able to interact with a hard content

[valid nacelle]

Only too much of it does, the sun es mu BIEN 🌞

[quasi sonnet]

As long as they keep a steady player base I think the game will do fine

[mortal seal]

What changes to mm? If I hear sbmm

[mystic fable]

Abmm

[hardy lantern]

Bf6 maps are less complex by a long shot. For example spread of loot containers and their variations and how this will effect player pathing isn't a concern when making a bf6 map.

[inland quail]

If you're talking about how I (or others that enjoy marathon) want to marathon be aligned with my vision, then yes I can see that and fully understand it. But the main difference is I came to already made game and liked it because it was already aligned to my vision and preferences. Now I'm just trying to keep it for myself, so to speak

[mellow pivot]

Haters went rampant on marathon Reddit with a recent post about financial losses of Sony on bungie. Bruh

[quasi sonnet]

I don’t play destiny so not sure about that I always played war frame not destiny. But yes destiny does seem its like a bad spot

[serene basalt]

yeah but when you spend over 300 mil and at peak your not even break 20k players that not enough to cover staff and server costs plus the players playing it have already bought it there is no more money coming in if you know what i mean

[mortal seal]

Bf6 maps are also the smallest in the series

[latent crest]

imo the player count will go up at the start of season 2, people will notice the game isnt dead

[steady mica]

If you want to be playing this game in the near future then its in your best interest for it to draw in more people with mass appeal. Otherwise it just goes away.

[eager forum]

Even if marathon was perfect as it is right now, the game need to live for people to play it. It is not about watching the player count in a sadistic way hoping it will do bad, it is more about hoping enough people could play it for the game to stay around

[mortal seal]

Needs elite marketing tho, if we see no trailers by mid-late May we’re fucked

[sly owl]

its in a very bad spot, all im saying is this company can tell you one thing and then 180 and do something completely different on a whim.

[quasi sonnet]

Financial losses for Sony doesn’t haven anything to do with players all they received was a report. They have no clue what Sonys expectations were it could either be bad or what they expected

[stoic hare]

bungie i will shoot myself in the head if you can marathon

[humble depot]

loot containers are very likely procedurally generated, it should be easy to tweak the probabilities of them

I do get what you mean, though

[sand rampart]

No, we're in agreement.

[latent crest]

yea if bungie goes silent know one will care about the game

[mellow pivot]

It depends how the marathon will be selling at the start of each season. If there will be a decent increase in sales at the start of season 2 , I think there will still be some hope before going free to play

[mortal seal]

He’s a fake Christian that blocks people if you disagree with him

[brave marten]

there is 100% more money coming in with more seasons. selling 25k units in concord vs marathon selling 1.2 mill in the first month. there is a very clear difference in these games and how much moeny is to be made

[inland quail]

Server costs are quite small for already made game. Bulk of the cost was already spent developing the game

[quasi sonnet]

They’ve seem to be more open on marathon which is a good sign. But it sucks for destiny

[agile mantle]

By how much? 5k of people who already sweated the game? There are no trailers or anything related new season 2...it is worrying

[mortal seal]

The hope for this game is that it’s a critical success

[eager forum]

Also I dont know if you noticed but the age of players in this game is quite old, and this is a good thing, but older people tends to spend less on skins and these things

[steady mica]

Why are people STILL holding on to Destiny? Its almost 10 years old.

[peak herald]

This is based on what, exactly? Extraction shooters always have cyclical player counts that spike on wipes, and dwindle towards the end of the season.

[quasi sonnet]

Player count willl probably spike at launch of season 2 then dip to these numbers again maybe less maybe more but it’ll be around the same I imagine unless they fuck it up bad or make it great

[sly owl]

Because the devs literally said they would continue to support it?

[eager peak]

Game has a core fanbase it can build from. The internet trying to manifest it failing for engagement is one of the worst recent trends. Got people that don't even play games trying to gravedance. They're going to hate post it into success.

[steady mica]

That assumes people are coming to back.

[mortal seal]

What I mean is, if we see no trailers and big marketing push in that period we’re shut down cos Sony isn’t giving the marketing money no more

[valid nacelle]

I feel that, but I also know that this would be smaller scale to implement than building out set pieces for a proper campaign.

But if they can get a strike team together to build out that as a first step PvE mode implementation, I think it can work.

[mellow pivot]

Well if people decide not to engage with a good product it is not a games problem. It is not Marathons or Bungies problem that anti woke chad don't like the gameloop

[inland quail]

30-40 something year olds are generation that grew up on games and now have disposable income to throw around though

[latent crest]

what do you mean new? They put out a roadmap for season 2 already, i may have misread what you meant to say

[valid nacelle]

I mean, everyone should’ve known that was bs when most of the PvP left to work on Marathon lmao

[peak herald]

I know what you said, I’m asking what that’s based on. Fortune cookie? Crystal ball? Your decades of experience in the industry?

[humble depot]

they're making MASSIVE maps now, check their 2026 roadmap, it's insane

[mellow pivot]

I think they are older because they are either bungie fans or sci fi fans

[serene basalt]

yeah but alot of those sales were including refunds and i dont think people will buy it for season 2 unless they do something drastic. i dont dislike the game im just saying it as it is. so please dont take offence

[mortal seal]

That’s on destiny department for that game going downhill

[inland quail]

Yeah, that's what I've been saying. Full PvE campaign is too much, PvE mode with AI runners is doable and not a bad thing to have

[mystic fable]

He’s options professional and extraction shooter expert. He knows everything and you know nothing in his eyes 🤣

[quasi sonnet]

Fortnite is almost 10 years old. Ark is 10+ years old rust is 10 plus years old 10 years when u enjoy something is nothing I’ve played and for years of my life on Xbox I played Fortnite form chapter 1 to chapter 4 if u enjoy a game you’ll play it forever

[sand rampart]

@inland quail Forgot where I was going initially but I despise the influx of """casuals""" entering the community of a game and whining for developers to gut the challenge or complexity because they want to just shut their brains off and not have to try to improve. Covid really did a number on gaming

[sly owl]

thats not it at all, they literally pulled devs from destiny to work on this game instead, you saying that is just ignorant lol

[brave marten]

im not taking offense. im just saying that you are making a bad comparison

[peak herald]

Nothing like knowing you live rent-free in a frog poster’s head 😊

[mortal seal]

Should of said no more after final shape and said we’re making marathon and d3 now

[digital pelican]

i finally got all subroutines yipeee compiler is last thing i need to do.

[agile mantle]

There is zero marketing for season 2, don't they need new players?

[quasi sonnet]

Yea which is a good sign for marathon tho. Hopefully they don’t give up on destiny

[mystic fable]

I didn’t have to debate you, I just had to wait for earnings call 🤣

[eager forum]

It is very irrational to consider that the issue with this game for not doing well would be a so called anti woke crowd. The game experience at launch was just miserable for casuals you dont need to make everything political.
If bungie had designed a game for a larger crowd people would play it. Proof is that the sale numbers did well, it is just that even people who bought the game didnt keep playing, and it can only be attributed to the experience the game provide.
I really dont like people assuming that it is the fault of « hate » when a video game experience is bad for the majority of people

[mortal seal]

Happened everywhere (warhammer), more eyes is good but when they start imposing what they want it’s bad

[eager peak]

Just dropped $100 for LUX and about to cop the collector's edition. Couldn't do that when I was younger

[latent crest]

”yet” theres no marketing, yet, season 2 is a month away they have time

[sand rampart]

So true. Gatekeeping is GOOD and we need to bring that shit back

[eager forum]

Yeah true older people have more income didnt consider that

[inland quail]

imo it started well before covid. Early tens were already full of attempts to make games more casual and simple.
I hate "interactive movie" games with a passion. Heavy Rain was a warning sign for what is to come

[brave marten]

mf's talk about marketing but have ad blockers on everything

[valid nacelle]

Some people can’t take the smoke and it’s understandable, so make the runner shells be RoI (Runners of Interest) that can drop some cool lore and also some dope gear, maybe even exclusive gear.

Similar to The Goons or Killa in Tarkov

Splice in some other Bot Runners in the match and boom you got your PvE.

With Cryo running on the same timer.

Only prob I really see is where Ranked can fit in for PvE only players 🤔

[mortal seal]

Light gatekeeping to keep the identity of the thing you love is good, gatekeeping obsessively is cringe af

[sand rampart]

Started well before covid but that's when it really started taking a turn for the worse, to me.

[sly owl]

its not a good sign because this game is struggling even with extra devs, they are basically starving their other game for minimal player numbers on what was supposed to be their golden goose.

[latent crest]

I dont have any blockers, i have vpns

[inland quail]

You should have tbh