🗣marathon-general-chat

[clear tendon]

Love how 98% of this chat is pure ragebait

[iron lake]

bro this guy doesnt even know that battlebit remastered isnt a roblox game 😭

[tired mulch]

gotta find someone to talk to somehow

[tame bobcat]

Real

[sudden basin]

🇪🇺 🇪🇺 🇪🇺 🇪🇺 🇪🇺 🇪🇺 🇪🇺 🇪🇺 🇪🇺 looking for someone doing nucal or traxus primary mission🇪🇺

[carmine matrix]

this guys european^

[tired mulch]

they might be european idk

[olive bolt]

/dac

[manic oak]

It takes some time to get the marathon vocabulary ×D
Nice nickname, btw 😄

[iron lake]

do you want me to screenshare what this game looks like to you

[chrome dock]

Ah fair, the character models are pretty good though. They're simplistic and other than Triage I find them to have decent amounts of detail, especially for a shooter where the 3D model of an enemy should reflect the fact that they're in a high stakes game and not a gacha world

[rapid sail]

Your opinion is low quality.

[tired mulch]

#micDrop

[clear tendon]

U getting ragebaited bro, drop it 😭

[iron lake]

im realizing this guy is just part of the hate hivemind and ragebaiting bro i give up

[chrome dock]

So are you implying that MIDA armory needing more than 3 Claymores is crap feedback

[fresh raptor]

The biggest thing that elevates the artstyle, in my opinion, is the material work and finish that most surfaces have. Smooth glass, speckled plastic, metallic sheens, athletic fabrics. The way the ground on Perimeter looks during a rainstorm, the ethereal glow Dire Marsh gets when the fog clears up! That is what stands out to me.

[rapid sail]

ITS A TRAP

[carmine matrix]

does anyone feel like they get busted way faster then it takes to bust out someone else despite it feeling like you had more shots and same shields?

[digital pelican]

dang my game just crashed right before i exfilled

[loud kernel]

yall get too mad over opinions.

[chrome dock]

True, but I'm nicebaiting.

[reef nest]

98%????

[brave latch]

I’m implying majority of YOUR “feedback” is dog shit

[leaden maple]

the gameplay of marathon is good, the progression system is good

the uI is bad, the menus need work, duos needs to be a thing

its ok to haev a nuanced take on the game and not be either full on bungie shill or a luck10p hater, its ok

you also have to have a functioning brain to have nuance, which appears to be lacking here

[drowsy schooner]

does anyone else have constant server problems today in eu? it keeps kicking me out and i lost a kit when i didnt even get to connect to a game

[tired mulch]

I love how utterly unfitting the human architecture is compared to the landscape, really shows how the uesc and corpos just sort of plant their flag and trample over everything :3

[reef nest]

It is, but a lot of us also don't think the UI is bad. Definitely some things they could improve on tho 🙂

[iron lake]

so are you going to say anything besides the implants or

[loud kernel]

wow heres me thinking you were a blind hater.

[carmine matrix]

i think they will spoil potential if the full package 3 years down the line is just pvp extraction because the guns/abilities/movement all feel good.

[manic oak]

Got me and another runner eliminated at the same time xD

[fresh raptor]

I've been having instability in the U.S. West servers, fwiw

[iron lake]

the ui is literally just the classic iconic extract shooter system lmao. and pretty sure duos are already being added

[low yacht]

Gameplay is phenomenal especially the pvp. Game runs like an absolute dream. Maps are phenomenal. UI is a 7/10 imo not the worst not the best. It’s crazy to me this game isn’t a smash hit. It’s brilliant

[cerulean remnant]

Low quality wasn't the best choice of words. I should say that the character models clash with the world and the weapons clash with both.

It's like the weapons, characters, and world were all designed separately without any communication between the teams. Despite using the same base themes/designs.

[crude oyster]

they just gotta add diverse decals for the implants imo

[chrome dock]

And that's your subjective opinion. Majority of your shilling does nothing for the game because you basically want the devs to just kick back and jork one off to what they've made and occasionally deliver one minor update between releasing content they've worked on for the past year (Cryo Archive and Night Marsh are already finished, just need to be released). I want them to work to deliver better product.

[granite minnow]

performance seems to be very divisive

[tired mulch]

osaka why are you from agartha

[loud kernel]

why are all the usual ragebaiters making good points today.

[crude oyster]

they opened ze portal

[blissful sequoia]

hey how do i join the lfg channel?

[cerulean remnant]

I know what the game looks like. That doesn't change the fact the weapons look completely different than the rest of the game.

[brave latch]

Define shilling

[ancient narwhal]

No idea how people even succeed valuable rook runs, without getting absolutely bodied by a stacked 3 man team every time in pinwheel

[carmine herald]

Would be cool if we could find the music chip we saw in trailer that would actually play a song in the background

Also ESCAPED WILL MAKE US GODS

[leaden maple]

You have to be crazy to think the icons for implants and mods is good, and having to "just go into another 4 menus to implant mods to your weapon bro" isnt a good argument, sorry - thats just trash

but yes, the gameplay is elite and so is progression, but new players are gunna see these icons and menus and uis and be like fuck this, i almost was

[granite minnow]

they look mass manufactured, like every corner possible was cut, it’s fitting

[iron lake]

what are we talking about 😭 bro this is like 0/10 ragebait

[crude oyster]

how come? guns are as blocky as UESC, which is who the guns are made for

[chrome dock]

Ok but I need you to clarify what you mean by "clash" because I cannot currently understand your perspective cuz I don't see things from your end

[noble wedge]

I ran into a trio communicating over prox chat for some reason, they literally fed us info on where they were

[tired mulch]

you must learn the way of the viet cong tunnel rats on the marshes before you graduate to outpost

[amber bone]

My favorite, free kill

[leaden maple]

you have to hit "V" to inspect your weapon then go into 3 other menus to get all ur mods on a weapon and people are defending this as good design lmao

[low yacht]

My buddy is playing it on a 2070 3700x and it runs like silk for him. I’ve a 5080 it runs great at 4k DLAA and the other guy in our crew is using a Series X. Zero complaints from anyone. Very abnormal for a modern release they’ve done a great job

[serene basalt]

dont know if you seen the video of the ceo of bungie saying that they have a great creative team but thats not the blue print...... i hold them back and under achieve so that's what the player will come to expect. like wtf

[granite minnow]

idk me and my squad struggle more on marsh than outpost, marsh is a PAIN

[tired mulch]

or you can just drag and drop from your vault screen

[noble wedge]

runner brags about prestige loot like one bad run wont send her back to sponsored kits

[carmine matrix]

do you just not mod your shi on the loadout menu?

[leaden maple]

the reason people are arguing to hit V is because they all look the same and you have to inspect each mod to know what it is, again, bad design

[crude oyster]

abandon gear fear there’s always better loot

[chrome dock]

Yesterday I showed you a video of how my game looks. Later on you said Crunchy is just salty when I was venting about how bad the game is to play for laptop.

You are shilling because you are blindly (quite literally blindly, you could not even recognize who I was), pushing down any criticism that people have against the game even when said criticism is extremely valid and concerning.

[brave latch]

I don’t expect in 7 days to know everything about the game to even make a decision on what needs to be changed all I can point out is what actually needs to be fixed that I’ve experienced things like crashing when opening the map .. not the ui I have to adjust to ..

[cerulean remnant]

The world is built on being stylized but relatively "realistic". Character models are cartoony and 'smooth'. Guns look like something from Roblox.

None of them match.

[fresh raptor]

I would disagree. The design of the weaponry fits in quite well with things like the UESC, and some of the optics having kindle-esque idle looks is an interesting direction.

[cedar wolf]

I think the whole playerbase has a problem with how the matchmaking is, until ranked is out I don't think it's gonna get better. I go in with purple and blue sheilds , teammates are white free kits, I go in with free kits, teammates are blue. ROFL. It's funny. But honestly the games fun so idc

[amber bone]

Jokes on you I'm a hoarder and always run sponsored kits so I can hoard more loot. and to piss off my filled teammates

[granite minnow]

well gotta accept could have gotten lucky, i’ve had great performance too but i’ve seen endless performance complaints in here

[tacit spire]

yo. can someone tell me if they decided to not reset the upgrades as well, i see a lot of discussions on the topic.

[noble wedge]

Dire Marsh is genuinely hardest map in the game for me.

I run Outpost and Perimeter most of the time.

[tired mulch]

but you don't have to hit v to see what it does you can just mouse over it <w<

[brave latch]

And yesterday I apologized didn’t I?
And I don’t want to bash your set up so I left it alone

[crude oyster]

blud said roblox

[rapid sail]

I thought it would be a really cool touch if when you had a given implant, such as a Head implant for example, that it would be visible on the Runner. Nothing too significant, just a small addition to the visuals of the Shells hardware.

Perhaps a visual difference between rarities.

[lime vine]

smart swap is buggy af

[carmine matrix]

do not random with good gear. either solo of get a group. randoms will leave you to die, like SEALS.

[tacit spire]

same same

[low yacht]

Ah yeah anecdotal of course but that is quite a wide spread between us. It also runs great on ps5 pro (I double dipped)

[still lantern]

i like the square boxy guns cuz they feel like mass produced 3d printed guns which kinda fit the theme

[reef nest]

just rude ppl ignore them laugh

[cedar wolf]

Yeah they just did, that's why lol. I had blue, 2 good guns. And this just left me and ran away

[cerulean remnant]

That's what they look like. It's not my fault Bungie couldn't come up with interesting designs. 🤷‍♀️

[tired mulch]

my goal is to become so goog that I can solo regardless of my fill teammates :3

[hidden heart]

Something satisfying about throwing yourself at a contract with just a gray kit over and over again until you succeed, this last raid I managed to deter a pursuer by activating a guarded exfil and hiding while the bots locked down the area

[outer lichen]

Kinda wish there was a setting for auto-selling the grey stuff rook can start with

[visual turret]

how to unbind a key? anyone knows?

[chrome dock]

Yes and some changes people will point out and that's a perspective, there can be a discussion on that perspective and there can be valuable insights for how the game can be improved from those insights, because not everyone is the same person and while we don't need to appeal to everybody, we need the game to appeal to those that willfully have it in their library to open it and play it regularly.

The devs can benefit from discussion. They will never benefit if everybody just said "I don't know what's wrong with the game" whether they hate it or like it

[brave latch]

If We are being honest

I think YOU need upgrade to your equipment

Personally that’s what I think in your situation

[tacit spire]

i use a random key 😄

[leaden maple]

sure you can mouse over 50 mods to know what to put in your gun but again this is not a good design and a waste of a players time

its ok to love a game and admit things like this need improvement

[carmine matrix]

trio fights are agony if not locked in or with the boys. duo v trio uphill if not getting the drop.

[visual turret]

yikes

[low yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-baxter-spanish-willferrell-will-gif-4923325

[crude oyster]

so what you’re saying is that it doesn’t fit the theme, could you explain what would

[tired mulch]

personally I don't have an issue with it but I see where you're coming from :3

[granite minnow]

good performance across all the different possible pc configurations is very difficult and while i think they did well there’s always room for improvement, i would expect good ps performance given its a sony game, im sure a lot of time went into getting that right, i haven’t tried it out yet

[rapid sail]

Gotta set em to a dummy key.

[still lantern]

the whole games theme is functionality over aesthetics so the guns go well

[fresh raptor]

I guess you could say that most of the performance went down the PSSR!

[carmine matrix]

solo is so nice in this game. and i play mainly vandal/destroyer so no assassins' hidey

[cerulean remnant]

Guns in the style of the characters or world keeping a consistent art style throughout instead of having 3 separate ones. I have already explained this.

[low yacht]

Series X being good too is great though. Obviously there’s room for improvement but if a 2070 can run it well people complaining could just be running toasters. That’s a nearly 7 year old gpu.

[maiden trout]

Ough I’m so mpreg

[hidden heart]

I play Recon on solo so I can stealth in and out with loot, I kinda use her as a Rook when I need to extract with items to finish a contract or DCON some stuff

[crude oyster]

ok, calm down. the thing is that in this setting the guns are specifically made for UESC, you know? the 3d printed bots also use 3d printed guns

[granite minnow]

i’m sure half of it’s just people not updating their damn drivers

[carmine matrix]

ah yes "aaaaahhh bespoke weapon ala overwatch/deadlock."

[noble lichen]

Scary when I use recon ult in solo then it pings another recon and that recon pops ult and now we in a stand off

[crude oyster]

hyperventilating ahh hipster talking about some roadblocks

[carmine matrix]

put your gun next to a box, its in the artstyle. take off your pink skin.

[chrome dock]

And that's where you're wrong, culture like Marathon shouldn't only be enjoyed by people who have the means to do so.

I have no incentive to upgrade my equipment to play a singular game that doesn't work on it. Your honest opinion on me "needing" an upgrade means NOTHING to me and the people who can play 1000s of other games and want to play Marathon but simply cannot play it without the devs actually trying to release laptop optimization.

You're stuck inside of a hypocritical bubble where you hate people who hate Marathon but also feel people who want to play Marathon should live up to an arbitrary standard you set.

[tired mulch]

2 owls hooting at each other in a forest at night

[open lintel]

lf2 ger/eng lvl 26

[crude oyster]

ambatuloot

[fresh raptor]

I understand that it is unrealistic of me to expect perfect performance when at 4k, but I do wish there was parity between my performance everywhere else, and then ... going outside in Outpost.

[brave latch]

Dude I’m not reading that

[prime monolith]

how can i know where to search for good loot/key etc ?

[chrome dock]

Arc Reader mentality

[serene basalt]

ranked lol there's a laugh you will be in a cue for 10 mins. thats getting held back there are nit enough players for the normal game.

[granite minnow]

yes outpost gives me a noticeable dip as whole, not unplayable but definitely annoying

[crude oyster]

i noticed that some areas in outpost hit me with fps drops

[brave latch]

You just want to argue and that’s apparent

[rapid sail]

Someone has a bit too much salt in their veins. If you're not purposely trying to be insufferable, that's even worse.

You haven't said anything constructive, just whining. If you have a point to make, offer a solution. Otherwise you're just crying.

[timid pier]

Honestly this reminds me of old dark souls v Skyrim debates with how often arc raiders is mentioned

[clear tendon]

Marathon looks like Minecraft 😡 i'm going back to Fortnite 😡

[still lantern]

usually dire marsh/outpots has better loot. you wanna look for blue/green/purple attachments for the most part since those determine the rarity of ur gun

[granite minnow]

they’re either baiting or egoing because every counterpoint gets completely ignored, no point in trying anymore honestly

[untold imp]

shart raiders

[leaden maple]

they are both new extraction shooters, i dont get why people find it so crazy they are compared lol

[timid pier]

That's not really true. Your point is true, but the comparison is not

[still lantern]

arc raiders looks kinda boring after marathon ngl

[crude oyster]

dude i love arc raiders man, how did you know i love AI? what do you mean, i love ai generated content? i love ai man, dude? ai is the future

[ancient narwhal]

Dozens of runs in a row on outpost with rook every single time destroyed by a 3 man team with no escape or instantly taken down by a rook with a shotgun (how do they even find those) ... bruh this is impossible

[chrome dock]

And I accepted your apology, but again, this is an observation I made that you one sidedly bash a lot of people who come up with great points for discussion.

[bleak flint]

so when do you think Cryo Archive will release?
Ive heard rumors that its today?

[fresh raptor]

I would argue that the main issue at hand is that the categorization of aesthetics is very ... narrow. I personally find no issue with the way weapons look in comparison with runners and the environment. I especially believe gun attachments like nano-silencers have a very distinct and well-fitting shape.

[obsidian quartz]

rooks at later levels will simply spawn with one lmao

[blissful sequoia]

game has silencers?

[tired mulch]

one of the arachne capstones (4th I think?) starts you with a shotgun

[leaden maple]

arc raiders is a good game but the pvp aspect is literally one map (stella) - marathon offers more for a pvp player, doesnt do any marathon player a service to shit on arc, its literally a generational game

[crude oyster]

yeah

[ancient narwhal]

Ah yes, very fair 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[timid pier]

It's not crazy, Skyrim and ds1 are both action RPGs. It's just interesting to see the exact same kind of comments from both sides being made about hard core vs mainstream

[chrome dock]

I'm not arguing with you. An argument means I am trying to win.

From my PoV we are discussing because I'm willing to see what points you have while trying to make you understand mine. I see your point that I won't see what's wrong with Marathon in 7 days. But you don't see mine wherein I shouldn't need to upgrade a functional setup to play one singular game

[valid stone]

So like, can we just release the marathon already instead of letting the player base disappear?

[tired mulch]

people arguing over arc raiders vs marathon as if the topic as a whole isn't subjective </3

[crude oyster]

just drink your tick milk guys

[obsidian quartz]

well they are entirely solo vs trios so idk dont let someone sneak up on you

[cerulean remnant]

I forgot it's a hive mind here and you're only allowed to speak in support of the game.

"Oh yes the game is perfect in every way and has no changes needed. Drink the kool-aid and shut up."

[serene basalt]

this is being drip fed same old bungie

[oblique shard]

Can people hear you open your map?

[chrome dock]

Also I think I'm not even going to discuss anything with you anymore because you're already dead set on whatever you believe and I can't change the fact that you will just try to brush away anyone with "I don't wanna read all that" than try to actually discuss anything.

[valid stone]

And it’s fine when the game isn’t bleeding players. This is getting dangerous and silly. The game is called marathon. Release the marathon

[still lantern]

game is def not perfect, i still cant rebind the map ping button 💔

[timid pier]

No why would they?

[oblique shard]

Happens in some games

[ancient narwhal]

I clearly heard their footsteps approaching, hid in a corner looking for the source, they full sprinted into the room, 1 tapped me out of knife range, finisher and ran out, literally no way I could react in time

[tired mulch]

tbf a lot of things make sound so it's fair to ask

[echo summit]

Or swap my crouch / melee on console!

[chrome dock]

I can't thought police you, I can only point out that you are thought policing and putting down others

[timid pier]

Really? I want to know what game does this. No shade homie I'm genuinely curious

[crude oyster]

yall can’t do that?

[leaden maple]

My biggest complaints with the game are

1. Mods and Implants all look too similar, i shouldnt have to mouse over everything to know what they do /are
2. WHY NO DUOS? HOW DID THEY THINK THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA? GAME ISNT "BALANCED FOR SOLO" BUT YET THEY CAN SITLL HAVE THAT AND NO DUOS? WTF

everything else is pretty solid for me imo

[icy sun]

Is there any way to stop healing without swapping weapon/melee on console?

[fresh raptor]

I wish none of us took such emotional investment in our opinions. Both for those of us who are blinded from flaws, and those of us who feel that we are the victims for getting significant pushback on our aesthetic preferences.

[echo summit]

Custom mapping isn’t out yet, that I know of

[granite minnow]

agreed

[timid pier]

Someone said other games do too. I was unaware because that sounds unfair as fuck

[rapid sail]

Your comprehension skills are poor.

I quite literally said offer CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, express what you'd like to see instead, or what you would've rather had or not had, etc. You're just rambling about negativity and not offering any insight as to what would've been better in your opinion.

Your input and responses have been that of a rage baiting bot, and I'm being sincere when I say that.

[open remnant]

Why is it that when I say this is my last game it never is. Damn you Bungie, what have you done to me 😫

[serene basalt]

i agree pal bungie tried this in d2 and players left in droves. im in Scotland and its like 11 oclock the player count the now 26k this is a sunday. so loads of people off they just aint playing it.

[marsh rapids]

Ok Arachne fanboys, I kinda get it. Just had a raid with 3 runner kills, shit was pretty tight. Still gonna be nice to other runners if I don't need elims tho :)

[tired mulch]

yea sometimes people take a disagreement as a personal attack <w<

[crude oyster]

i’ll find you and i’m gonna kill you

[ancient narwhal]

its 4am for me currently 💀 just one more rook run. Surely my 30th will be a success. Wait no because i have to go up against rooks with SHOTGUNS LOL

[valid stone]

The numbers are on a consistent downward trend and I’m tired of pretending with the community that it’s fine

[opal salmon]

just had a first stacked run and lost it all in the 2nd 🥀

[fresh raptor]

But saying it out loud makes me feel like such a fencesitter lol

[timid pier]

Wait everyone else shut up I wanna know what game makes map noises when you open it

[stoic hare]

you're not going to save your skin

[sonic tendon]

does anyone know if the thief grapple strat/movement tech has been patched or not?

[tired mulch]

just.. ragged inhale one more.,., chokes and splutters run,.,..,., flatlines

[crude oyster]

but we are writing in text good sir

[timid pier]

Who told you I was good?

[teal crane]

how do you silk

[crude oyster]

indeed

[uneven apex]

[timid pier]

You get a bunch of cool worms

[rapid sail]

I HEAR THE WORDS

[tired mulch]

me, I let everyone know you're so kind and well meaning

[marsh rapids]

You take your worm and you silk it dry

[serene basalt]

i like the game just wished it was better player dont forgive were a toxic community. We dont give second chances look at high guard. so i dont know what they will do. games peaks when America wakes up

[timid pier]

Thank you that is very thoughtful of you. Who said marathon was toxic?

[crude oyster]

me too well sophisticated and decorated arachne runner

[fresh raptor]

The gloom gets in the way of my personal enjoyment. If you enjoy the game, recommend it to others, fight the good fight. I am no analyst, and cannot make accurate predictions on the market, or revenue, or player counts. So I won't.

[pine stump]

looking 4 mates

[rapid sail]

🗣️

[open remnant]

Why are rooks on Outpost so wholesome? 🤔 Nearly everytime I pick rook there I get another rook wanting to recruit me into his cult of rooks like I'm joining fight club

[still lantern]

[timid pier]

Plenty of fish still exists I think

[tired mulch]

I am unsure, maybe they mean the little fungal growth things that spew spores at you? :3

[crude oyster]

game is gonna improve overtime that’s how bungie has always done it, they release bangers left and right then get a little lazy then a banger comes out

[timid pier]

I have those in my perineum too 🙁

[still lantern]

thats so real

[valid stone]

I’m playing the game every day, got all my friends playing it doing my part etc but it’s time to get Bungie to actually do something for the health of the game. I don’t care what, give people big log in bonuses for a month straight

[uneven apex]

Rook to richest foreva

[tired mulch]

you should probably get that checked out <w<

[open remnant]

There is a growing rook cult in outpost. I kinda love it

[crude oyster]

splooging tick milk attack on ALL opps

[timid pier]

NuCaloric says they'll give me a blue volt thrower if I keep it long enough

[valid stone]

Did you stutter what the hell is that

[still lantern]

umamusume kinda awesome ngl

[stoic hare]

it's true

[jovial lotus]

is it too late to start destiny 2

[tired mulch]

ooh that sounds worthwhile then! x3

[open remnant]

I wonder if the cult of rooks will spread to cryo archive when it opens

[still lantern]

might be a bit late...

[crude oyster]

they will be there waiting to die

[serene basalt]

does anyone think a secure box wld be a good idea

[frail yarrow]

i've seen someone with 12 blue shield kits and 12 blue med kits he just used a blue to heal like a tiny bit of hp i feel like a peasant watching the royals eat cake through the castle window

[rapid sail]

mental ticks?

[clear tendon]

HELL no

[tired mulch]

cro..

[fresh raptor]

I understand the worry, but please don't lose sight of your personal experience outside of the numbers. No matter if the game lives or dies, it's mostly chill as long as you can get into a match made game okay.

[tough pebble]

anyone know what the "magazine overflows" mods do ?

[cerulean remnant]

"They could change the weapons models and character models to both sell more skins, fit the aesthetics better, and improve the game" is construct criticism.

What do you expect to hear? "You know what would improve our already-perfect-no-flaws game? Sell us the same skins again separately for each gun. I love spending money."

You seem to think that saying anything against the game is rage baiting. It's not; I just don't subscribe to the hive mind.

[open remnant]

Even when theres 12+ of them? Rook together strong

[crude oyster]

i’m level 50 i don’t use green anything anymore

[serene basalt]

ok i think it could be good but you can only put keys in it

[still lantern]

im seriously wondering if anyone is gonna even play shadow and order unless they put out something crazy

[frail yarrow]

how do you even get to this point i'm so poor i always bring only green stuff

[tired mulch]

when you reload it puts more bullets than it normally would in your mag, so say if it normally holds 32 it would make it hold 40 or something, y'know? :3

[clear tendon]

Hmm maybe for keys only could potentially be okay i suppose

[upbeat hare]

loads new mag with exceeded capacity, so ex: 35/30

[valid stone]

It’s weird how little people seem to care about the overall health of the game. But whatever I guess

[opal salmon]

they explode every single location ingame

[crude oyster]

you gotta upgrade cyac primarily and nucaloric as for the guns, just kill people and take their blue mods/gun

[open remnant]

In what way?

[valid stone]

You know, down 25% players since release

[tired mulch]

traxus and arachne for guns :3, mida for BOMBS and sekgen for cores and such, all factions have various implants (aside from CyAc) :3

[rapid sail]

That's just you wanting a completely different game out of a completely different game.

"Oh they could just change everything, and the way it all looks, and it would sell better."

I mean, great effort for "constructive" criticism, but next time try to keep it within the realm of reason.

[fresh raptor]

It's a bit like constantly worrying about geopolitics. Obviously, send in feedback and push your weight around where you can, but a little acceptance goes a long way. Your Mileage May Vary.

[crude oyster]

i hate MIDA i actually support UESC

[frail yarrow]

every 1 kill i make i die abt 10 - 15 times without exaggerating

[tired mulch]

:(

[valid stone]

I’m pushing weight around right now and people push back with don’t worry about it

[upbeat hare]

We just need a major content drop that will get a lot of hype and bring in high player count

[open remnant]

I'm still having a lot of fun with it. As long as it still has lots of people playing it I'm sure it'll do just fine. It doesn't have to be no.1 right

[rapid sail]

UESC Faction when?!

[still lantern]

thats just the natural course of live service games i feel, after a while it will stagnate at particular amount and go up during big releases like cryo archive

[frail yarrow]

ok 15 might be a little over but still

[cerulean remnant]

Asking to overhaul graphic design choices isn't asking for an entirely new game. It's pointing out the major flaws in the current design and seeing road blocks ahead.

[drowsy skiff]

Can any one beat a 20 second solo run?

[wary rock]

Bring them into our CYCLE OF DEATH!

[valid stone]

y’all living in coocoo land if you think a 25% drop in a new Bungie title after 1 week is normal

[still lantern]

omg u have btr tag :O

[crude oyster]

arc raiders has lost like 50%

[stoic hare]

dumb bitches still talking about player counts

[rapid sail]

Alright. We're past overhauling graphics phases. Come to terms with that. Constructive criticism needs to be reasonable. That isnt.

[open remnant]

I don't understand the mentality of 'its not no.1 therefore it will fail', it seems like a very pessimistic and negative view

[valid stone]

Nice mouth you got there

[fresh raptor]

What I'm seeing from you is more so like pointing at something and going "ERM, guys, do you SEE this?" Of course, we all do! But making the macro-level health of the game a constant talking point just isn't it.

[serene basalt]

i think player numbers will drop more once crimson desert comes out only reason im playing this as there is nothing to play atm

[split pebble]

getting kinda sick of solos and running into landmine assassins everywhere i go lol

[outer lichen]

And is there anything we can do about it beside posting in a chat forum? No. And barking about it 24/7 isn't going to make the devs change things any faster. So we mention what needs mentioning, stop worrying about it, and get back to playing the game we like. It's rather simple.

[cerulean remnant]

They could either embrace the lower player count and remove a lot of the more casual features to keep their core hard-core audience, or expand the casual aspects to try to keep the casuals. The half and half method they are currently using will be problematic.

[brave latch]

From highest point till now 75% drop

[crude oyster]

cuckservatives on X are constantly monitoring marathons player count as we speak

[open remnant]

I do think the game could be improved in places. Some of balancing is a bit whack. But overall the game is still a ton of fun to play

[stoic hare]

we need to ban that guy

[valid stone]

or stop drip finding teases for a new level like the game is doing numbers

[rapid sail]

And quite frankly, I couldn't disagree more. I fucking LOVE the graphics designs and choices. It would appear a majority of the community does.

You can feel as you wish, but accept that.

[tired mulch]

ban me too please I'm too cute and kind and cool for this place 🌱

[stoic hare]

no we love you and respect you

[crude oyster]

no

[clear tendon]

I think we should mpreg that guy

[valid stone]

You’re cringe

[still lantern]

marathon survived a studio acquisition, a creative reboot, a directors firings, mass layofffs, an art scandal , bad alpha release and an indefinite delay i think it will survive 25% dip in playercount

[tired mulch]

awwwwwww stop thaaaat >w<

[split pebble]

gamers when a game doesn't have photorealistic washed out cod graphics:

[tiny parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/marathon-marathonthegame-mpreg-runner-marathongame-gif-12626953977668831006

[reef nest]

Haha i just killed the person who killed me last game camping the supply drop LOL

[cerulean remnant]

Reading comprehension: None

[outer lichen]

You don't understand I have to have the prime color pallet of brown/brown/brown/grey/brown

[fresh raptor]

At the same time, the ARG has been doing good things for the community. It's like giving people time to prep for a raid, and collect all of the rather rare Marathon Keys.

[crude oyster]

casual “gamers” when the game looks like a game and not some ultra realistic military simulator ai generated post apocalyptic slop

[stoic hare]

you're washed

[fervent tide]

Bungie seems to be really good at making games that can only be killed by bungie themselves, marathon will do fine unless bungie puts it down like an injured horse

[split pebble]

gamers when someone makes fun of them:

[open remnant]

The current 59k peak player count says this game is going to do just fine

[azure hearth]

game looks beautiful idk how any can complain about it

[blazing tree]

Looking for more people to play with. Dm if interested

[cyan pumice]

Its been over a week and i still havent received my twitch drops ive tried reconnecting my bungie on twitch and still wasnt able to receive it

[tired mulch]

because it doesn't fit their subjective taste which they think the devs should cater to

[frail yarrow]

compared to arcs over 65% rate i feel like that's still relatively fine, despite arc having the higher player count. Something i just noticed tho, it's very VERY weird how for the first time ever people focus so so much on player count of a video game. Like i'm not saying ppl have never used player counts to talk about a video game before, but it was pretty much a one and done topic. You hear people here mention it every 2 seconds, it's like there aren't any other arguments to be made??

[azure hearth]

delusional people will always be delusional ig

[clear tendon]

Marathon's art direction is actually crazy good when you dont have an annoying fly going around you telling you it sucks

[stoic hare]

cos they're redditor fools who hate all that is good in the world

[reef nest]

contact support maybe?

[rapid sail]

I sincerely feel so bad for people that let others opinions stop them from being able to enjoy things.

It's a terrible social impact.

[frail yarrow]

YES

[crude oyster]

i hate reddit

[blazing sedge]

guys i have yet to play trios with randoms

[fresh raptor]

I do think it's also important to remind ourselves that Marathon is a paid product. Unless someone is immediately refunding the game, a Marathon player is already a paying customer, who may very well come back when more content gets added.

[brave latch]

It’s the same people with the same argument in here every single day

They just reiterate shit they heard on YouTube
Conformity at its finest

[cyan pumice]

twitch or bungie?

[ancient narwhal]

Rook run: finds 2 random keys. VANDAL run: SIX KEYS FOUND, NO ONE ELSE HAD EVEN UNLOCKED PINWHEEL 10 MINUTES IN ??? LOL - Then of course I get absolutely destroyed by a random blue shield cloaked assassin after pouring literally an entire magazine of bully smg into him

[still lantern]

ure cool and awesome i think

[frail plover]

Honestly it's not as bad as you might think

[reef nest]

bungie

[tired mulch]

like it's fine to not like the art direction, it's art, it's subjective, but like the gall to think you get to decide the devs' vision for them is insane

[open remnant]

It's good fun but totally different to soloplay. It's generally much more PvP centri as you'll run into full teams instead of solos

[stoic hare]

bring Ares and demolish him

[frail plover]

Very true

[tired mulch]

X3

[ancient narwhal]

Wouldn't have helped here

[serene basalt]

the main prblem with this game is you need friends to play with

[reef nest]

As your mother tells you, and my mother certainly told me, it is important, she always used to say, always to try new things. - Hannibal Lecter 😅 '

[crude oyster]

misriah is the best shotgun ever

[rapid sail]

AND I WILL, MAMA!

[stoic hare]

i have one and i'm scared to use it until i have a three stack

[open remnant]

Not at all. I know lots of people who love this game for the soloplay

[crude oyster]

good stuff is painful asf to lose

[frail plover]

Honestly not really trio ques are usually fine more often than not and running solo isn't to tough as long as you listen for footsteps and watch out for sneaky bois, also rook is EXTREMELY fun and rewarding when you get those extra upgrades for em later on.

[night sable]

rawr

[stoic hare]

right now i've been playing with a duo since launch and we've lost trillions of dollars

[serene basalt]

yeah if your willing to take a back full of bullets or want to creep about.

[frail yarrow]

u listen to miku and teto ur also cool i think

[cyan pumice]

would you know where i can get in contact?

[open remnant]

The trick to winning most fights in solo is patience. You can win even if you're not that skilled. Intelligence matters a lot more in solo.

[brave flame]

I feel like a loot hoarder bruh, I be using sponsored kits instead of my own guns

[ancient narwhal]

Yeah duos get destroyed by 3 man teams, no idea why they didn't include a duo mode to begin with tbh

[clear tendon]

Well the shells feel like a trillion bucks so you got that right

[night sable]

give me cat costume for the thief XD it would fit her playstyle perfectly

[stoic hare]

they're adding one at some point

[frail plover]

I play destroyer solo and strictly bum rush and jump jet move if someone is near while clearing lobbies full of assassins

[split pebble]

solos are hell if you aren't ahead of the level curve

[magic ravine]

i got the sticker but not the other two
wat was ur leaderborad rank and dac lvl

[ancient narwhal]

Hope so

[crude oyster]

pls prestige skin for recon

[cerulean remnant]

The game was rushed out which is why solo and duos are tacked on instead of fleshed out. I'm sure it will be fixed over time.

[serene basalt]

i take in purples i get 2 randoms with free load outs there dead and im left fighting 3 players

[open remnant]

Yeah solo attracts a specific demographic of players for sure. If you can't be quiet and patient its definitely not the mode for you.

[still lantern]

:D

[fallen trench]

bro why tf do i stilllll not have any damn twitch drops this is total bs ..... im so tired of being told wait 24hrs ... its been nearly two weeks and as usual bungie support is about as helpful as a brick with Alzheimer's

[ancient narwhal]

Yeah, the level grind is genuinely 5x slower than any queued contracts, because trios can complete each others' contracts AND get more bonuses on top of that, making solo more tedious

[serene basalt]

it bots u have to shoot them and there sometime tanky

[frail plover]

Idk i had a easy times early in solos just fine just use your head and don't get to distracted and you'll be fine

[timid pier]

No they have a really shitty star wars story that will make you want to kill every star wars fan you've ever met

[blazing sedge]

idk i think my levels are fine for being majority of it solo

[vernal tinsel]

I'm a creep in solos, i could be taking pictures of yall feet n you wouldnt even know it, i luuuuurrrrrrrkkkk

[serene basalt]

thats not fun tho

[marsh rapids]

esp easy if you just avoid unnecessary fights

[eager forum]

I am solo and there are some contract I just dont manage to do

[open remnant]

You don't have to shoot all the bots. If you're rook you don't have to shoot any

[cerulean remnant]

You can play it but large sections of the story have been cut for "space limitations".

[clear tendon]

Rook feet 🤤🤤🤤🤤

[frail plover]

It sadly happens sometimes but if anything just extract asap if you see your teammates got poo loadouts no shame in that

[frosty silo]

I got mine awhile ago so double check you claimed everything and have the right accounts connected

[split pebble]

"use your head" as a destroyer comes bhopping down the hill with a reinforced blue shield and an m77 because he needs your depleted patch kits:

[stoic hare]

fuck thief and vandal i need more rook yaoi

[vernal tinsel]

Sttaaaaahhhhhppp, youre gonna maje me eggplant emoji 🤤

[clear tendon]

THATS WHAT I BEEN SAYING!!

[long snow]

why has the free kit been traxus for 3 days?

[crude oyster]

recon number 1

[serene basalt]

i would be extracting every game lol

[rapid sail]

I love the Solo play. Very tactful with real risk and reward to your actions. Every que, you know is a possible threat, every action is discernable.

[frail yarrow]

the one guy with purple shield, 500 million purple heals, and gold mega super duper kitted lmg turning my insides into swiss cheese after i breathed in his direction:

[stoic hare]

who's winning in the rook polycule

[vernal tinsel]

Because FVCK YOU n FVCK ME apparently.

[frail plover]

Then trio queing is the place if your feeling like just pvping honestly which i get because sometimes i just want all the smoke so i go in there with a decent loady

[sand torrent]

Do you get mastery level for recon?

[frosty silo]

Well if hes bhopping with an ar thats an easy kill with a wstr or bully

[clear tendon]

The one with the bigger shield

[split pebble]

do you use chatgpt to write your discord messages

[crude oyster]

yes

[vernal tinsel]

Traxus kit SUX

[frosty silo]

it was mida yesterday

[umbral island]

I hope ranked matches don't allow free kits. 99% of my random teammates run free kits 🙁

[sand torrent]

How you did it? I mean how you kill 3 runners?

[clear tendon]

Fuck the Hardline PR

All my homies hate the Hardline PR

[cerulean remnant]

The only penalty is you're 1v3 in every engagement.

[stoic hare]

i ran with every free kit for the skins it was actually hell

[frail plover]

Bro i hate how right you are lmao if i see someone way down feel i pull out my knife and just book it towards them with no thoughts and honestly over 90% of the time it ends up with me holding more loot and less players in the lobby.

[serene basalt]

ive tried to get my friends to play this i have even offered to buy them it. they still wont play. d2 players with a chip with bungie im afraid

[open remnant]

Solo almost feels like a PvE stealth/survival game to me. Every player I encounter another challenge to overcome.

[blazing sedge]

L take

[tight timber]

Terrorising a triage with my thief drone on perimeter last night and he comes sprinting from 100m away looking for me, poor fool

[crude oyster]

well, you can kill them

[frosty silo]

ive heard ranked is everyone starts with basically a free kit and whoever gets the best loot and kills and goals ranks up

[rapid sail]

Never, but I've been told I speak in a more formal fashion.

[brave latch]

I think there’s a minimum value you have to bring

[sand torrent]

Just down or full kill?

[frail plover]

Dang sounds like some bad luck then

[frail yarrow]

bing bong

[frosty silo]

I think the tau ceti cup yesterday was an idea how ranked might work

[crude oyster]

full kill

[umbral island]

This would be great. Playing with randoms it's being a bad experience average

[timid pier]

Thanks for being the most schizophrenic chat I'm off of work and going to get off but I hope you guys can learn that being a gamer is shameful

[long snow]

i mean i like the traxus kit but i also like the nucaloric kit so i want that back in rotation

[cerulean remnant]

I use solos to lock in. Trios I just free kit, put on music, and vibe. ✌️

[brave latch]

Like @frosty silo just said

[umbral island]

I hope it's not like that haha

[crude oyster]

stop FREE KITTING BUY YOUR GUNS

[cerulean remnant]

You lose your gear if you're not using a free kit.

[open remnant]

I live in shame everyday with this knowledge lol

[vernal tinsel]

Mine was traxus

[clear tendon]

From what ive heard, you will need to reach certain loot value threshold to gain ranked points. If you extract without enough value, you stay where you are. If you die, you lose points

[frail yarrow]

i CAN'T if i do I WILL GO BROKE IN 2 MATCHES

[stoic hare]

full support to traxus for the barters they give me

[frail plover]

Yey idk why people are acting like D2 didn't succeed and do great but has just kinda been out so long that the hype has died, i grew up playing all the OG halos and destiny 1 n 2 in adulthood and honestly i still adore those games for what they were ive put well over a thousand hours into each halo game and destiny game and tbh I'll probably do it with marathon i genuinely cant stop playing it i think im close to 100 hours rn.

[crude oyster]

THEN GET MORE MONEY

[frosty silo]

weird I had traxus friday and mida yesterday. I remmeber bc i grabbed 5 traxus kits to power level lmao

[ancient narwhal]

Welp, waste of the enhanced sponsored arachne kit. Sat around sneaking through dormitories to get to the roof to the security key. Waited there for minutes before attempting to grab the 1 key. the instant I do, a thief randomly barrels through the doorway wearing a prestige backpack, 3 taps me AS I'M IN THE KEY CUTSCENE and runs off. Amazing, outpost is truly the map of all time

[stoic hare]

rook solo for a trillion years and get money

[serene basalt]

ive heard ranked is u wait 10 mins to go into a game where your screen goes blank, then flashing images appear. then u wake up rockin in your chair say marathons great marathons great lol

[frail yarrow]

HOW I MAKE LIKE 1K PER RAID IF I'M LUCKY

[cerulean remnant]

Make me! I may buy an upgraded sponsored kit but free kits work just as well on Perimeter/Marsh.

[frail plover]

Honestly music and a free kit in trios with random sounds like something i gotta try

[crude oyster]

360 no scoped by longshot

[blazing sedge]

i just been doing solo perimeter and looting every event at least 6k each run

• some player kills

[open remnant]

Prepare to die a lot 😅

[vernal tinsel]

I just need a baddie to blow my shit smooove off 😭

[crude oyster]

pumped with misriah easy

[stoic hare]

Thief tech is actually peak i once soloed an entire squad of other thiefs with a claymore strapped to my drone

[crude oyster]

in outpost i literally get out with a minimum of 10K each round

[ancient narwhal]

This map is just not doable solo unless I already have full purple gear, but I can't get the purple gear unless I manage to kill the purple geared players with my green or blue gear, which is barely possible... and each rook I come across tries to instantly murder me for my empty inventory OR has a SHOTGUN for free 😭 this is deadass not doable

[frail plover]

Yey probably tbh lmao can't say it's something I'd do alot but i definitely gotta see how it feels because music and games at the same time is the digital equivalent of crossfading

[frail yarrow]

I pick up the greys as failsafe if i don't end up finding anything good before i exfil otherwise i try to replace it with better stuff but i always just find greys and greens

[supple bronze]

Great, just bought the game on PS5 and can't find a match. Been on matchmaking for 8 minutes yay

[vernal tinsel]

THATS WHAT IM SAYIN 😭

[brave latch]

Dude tried that in the tournament yesterday but couldn’t find anyone

[cosmic forge]

Selection pressure 4/4 is an absolute joke

[frail yarrow]

ok that can't be right

[stoic hare]

probably because people are sleeping

[frail plover]

Jeez that's unlucky i usually find games easily in a minute or less

[vernal tinsel]

No skill exploit this isn't ukraine

[rapid sail]

Never been in que for longer than around 1 min. That ain't normal.

[cosmic forge]

That’s weird. What region? I’m in out of games 30 seconds EU

[clear tendon]

15 second for me right now

[sand torrent]

So I should activate prime ability when they all dropped and finish all of them during ability activated?

[frail yarrow]

yes but even when ppl were sleeping the most i had to wait was abt 3 minutes

[serene basalt]

yeah im over 3000 hours d1 and d2 and 600 hours in eft. i was excited every day to play those games i'm forcing myself to play this till i get better gear. games just aren't as good as they were. i blame Microsoft for buying studios. cause now they told which type of game to make. its killed gaming imo

[stoic hare]

recon drone is better i can do the same thing

[open remnant]

At least you'll be able to quickly restart with free kits, good way to practice risk free PvP as long as you don't mind always being on the back foot in every fight

[upbeat hare]

I just got off but it was putting me into raids immediately

[crude oyster]

no you gotta tag them first before killing then, ult then kill

[brave latch]

You’ll get it!

[supple bronze]

Brazil and it's like 9 AM, maybe people are sleeping but dunno — should at least find some people through crossplay

[crude oyster]

this game so good i haven’t touched tarkov since release

[sand torrent]

Ohhh. Tag and fully kill. Not easy

[grim carbon]

24xs sneak pack+ goes hard

[cosmic forge]

For sure, but I think I’ll have to LfG. Heading fills around a map like that is pretty much impossible

[supple bronze]

LOL JUST GOT "NO MATCHES FOUND" ERROR 💀

[upbeat hare]

same, after 10 years of tarkov this game is awesome

[brave latch]

Don’t quit

[grim carbon]

did you know the 24xs sneak pack+ makes you invisible when you open containers

[vernal tinsel]

Bungie: Why are you taking the shoes off the Vandal shell???????????

"Her dogs was hot"

[frail plover]

Idk i feel the opposite i got so many good games to play that it's almost overwhelming and I'm never truly bored of gaming

[clear tendon]

Quite very obviously a problem on your end

[open remnant]

Until the assassin with shottie who's been sitting in the same duct for 10+ minutes gets you 😄

[cosmic forge]

Huh… that doesn’t seem right. At 09:00 there have got to be others on in your region

[fresh arch]

This game is a dopamine IV

[serene basalt]

dont worry bro were all going to be seeing that in a few weeks lol

[grim carbon]

who said they'd get me
i'm invisible 😎

[supple bronze]

yeah that's what I'm trying to figure out lol

[cosmic forge]

Oh absolutely not. I’m sticking with this game as long as Sony lets me

[serene basalt]

best game been e33 and res so far

[eager forum]

this game is too difficult solo

[digital gust]

That's interesting.... You running any software you shouldn't be?

[cerulean remnant]

It's fun! Put on the Furi soundtrack for the sci-fi vibes. The Toxic Avenger - My Only Chance feels like it was written for this game.

[open remnant]

Never underestimate an autistic camping shottie assassin who stealths at the drop of a pin, they're out there lol

[gritty robin]

i'm level 2, lived 2/3 runs. just going solo currently. shoot on sight is the vibe here right

[supple bronze]

nope, I'm on Playstation — literally the most unaltered state of the game

[crude oyster]

gay station

[eager forum]

res?

[cerulean remnant]

Not when I have already spotted them with my Thief drone.

[digital gust]

May wanna try changing your dns server then sounds like your routing is failing.

[serene basalt]

resident evil

[fresh arch]

This is Tau Ceti, theres no such thing as "friendly" here. We're skinning people for Arachne

[supple bronze]

I'll look into it fingers crossed

[crude oyster]

extracting tick milk from dead opps

[grim carbon]

Because of you I will spread the knowledge of the 24xs sneak pack+ to everyone. You are propaganda, the sneak pack isn't 😎
@ashen wing

[eager forum]

Oh true but I wait for this game to be discounted I do not like paying a lot of money

[oblique shard]

I just found a solo lobby that was 100% friendly all at hauler lol

[strange mantle]

Yo all rooks we team up on outpost

[cerulean remnant]

Dead game. 😜

[grim carbon]

so just don't go into vents 🧐

[brave latch]

Better chance of hitting the lottery of that ever happening again 😂

[stoic hare]

tarkov finnally killed it the redditors won

[oblique shard]

Ikr was shocked 😂

[reef nest]

website

[digital gust]

At first I thought your name was hit**** not hip**** lol

[grim carbon]

dude lives in brazil 💀
yea time to move countries if you wanna play games

[brave latch]

Honk for hauler 😆

[clear tendon]

Only thing tarkov is killing is itself

[cosmic forge]

From what I’m finding people have been having this issue in Brazil since launch… are you solo queuing?

[eager forum]

Why do you guys think that people became naturally friendly in arc and not in marathon? Is that because of the first person?

[oblique shard]

I mean then again im not in American servers 😂

[crude oyster]

i think it’s because they’re pussies idk

[nova rapids]

Hi is there an easier way to see objectives on the map or something? I am usually completely lost with the quests I can’t find stuff. I.e when you have to do this pirate signal stuff at the northern relay in the beginner zone I have absolutely no idea where to go

[fresh arch]

Tarkov is made as a form of criminal punishment. Marathon is made as a form of digital drugs.

[digital gust]

It could be the game literally constantly telling you not to trust runners lol

[eager forum]

these are almost the same people playing both game

[earnest birch]

is it taking longer for you guys to find a game ?

[leaden maple]

@eager forum way shorter TTK so more fear, way smaller maps

[brave latch]

But still .. 😆

[barren zinc]

probably a bot question but do runner stats above 100 do anything

[cerulean remnant]

Tarkov? I think you mean Arena Breakout: Infinite™ won. 🤭

[outer nest]

Because theres no abmm. So it literally is "safe" to assume pvp

[eager forum]

Yeah I think it has to be with the smaller map and short ttk. I wish there was some bigger map

[digital gust]

Obviously not it was wildgate that won.

[stoic hare]

I mean Half Life 2 deathmatch

[fast bloom]

Bungie please revert the audability changes 😭 I don't want to get 5th partied every game on Dire Marsh

[clear tendon]

Minecraft Bed Wars won

[dense bloom]

cyberacme last capstone asays I will start with blue backpack but I still load in with a green one?

[supple bronze]

I tried solo queue, crew fill and rook — no luck 🙁

[digital gust]

They are on it.

[eager forum]

if you want my opinion the issue in this game is that I feel contract have been designed around playing trio and when you play solo it is way more difficult

[glacial rock]

Does impact h-ar have a prestige mod?

[outer nest]

They will, post yesterday. They listened

[digital gust]

That's for rook.

[dense bloom]

yes obviously, still doesnt work

[fresh arch]

I still play Tarkov occasionally, there still has yet to be any game that matches the level of depth regarding gun building

[cosmic forge]

Huh… I hope you figure this out. It’s kinda crazy that an entire continent is running into this problem and they haven’t figured out a solution yet

[clear tendon]

Its really unfortunate they ruined absolutely everything around it

[brave latch]

Honestly I think it’s story ..
arc was intended to be pve in 2021
And then the story of arc itself
Is more friendly of the fact that it’s suppose to be raiders vs the arc

Post apocalyptic times and people killing the remaining humans left on planet doesn’t seem smart to me ..

It think it’s story driven
People prioritized PvP but there’s not actual PvP incentive

[cerulean remnant]

The entire game is designed around Trios. Solos were added last minute after massive complaints which is why it is half baked. The game is basically still early access at this point while they develop the maps and modes.

[fallen trench]

ive only got one steam account and one bungie account

[supple bronze]

yeah pretty weird considering this only happens when I'm trying on ps5. I have the game on my pc also and never had issues finding matches

[eager forum]

Yeah the story make more sense in collaborating

[cosmic forge]

Yeah that’s what I saw, it was a regional ps5 specific issue in the forum I read

[supple bronze]

so I'm hoping it's a problem on my end that'll fix eventually

[outer nest]

I used to be a pve arc carebear. But this game is so good, i adapted. This game actually inspires me to start pvp in arc 🤣

[fresh arch]

Arc Raiders was meant to be a PVE game initially, but they added PVP later on as the game was boring

[midnight kettle]

54k peak this weekend get to playing instead of talking about arc

[blazing sedge]

i mean if you having trouble with contracts solo should you be playing solo

[cerulean remnant]

The game has a PVE focused and social interactions reduce the amount of PVP. This has been further encouraged by the inclusion of ABMM.

Games like Marathon lack the social element and ABMM which means the game naturally become more and more KoS over time.

[eager forum]

well if it was trio only I wouldnt play. It would be good if they adapted the solo mode

[gritty robin]

i'm an absolute softie in ARC. we dont have that option here it seems. lol. learning the hard way!

[eager forum]

the issue is that sometime I feel like playing a battle royale

[fresh arch]

I just wish the randoms I get on squad fill werent so bad

[digital gust]

Train them.

[blazing sedge]

skin them.

[fresh arch]

youll get one good player for every 10 that just run off on their own and die to bots

[outer nest]

Be stealthy in solo gets you far. Headphone + no podcast required!

[covert snow]

Facts rare that they don’t just run it down with their free kits💀

[timid pier]

Do you guys want to play Scrabble? I'm pretty good

[wild lake]

it's not even that, it's just everyone going in with free kits at level 30+ like bro it cost like 1k to buy a cheap gun and green shield at the very least and you'd have so much more presence than a free kit

[eager forum]

That is one of the reason I do not play trio this game is really difficult and people would not like if I was on their team, so I play solo but it is really difficult to do the contract

[timid pier]

Pls don't leave me on read. We can do words with friends if you want

[cerulean remnant]

They didn't say it was boring. They said the couldn't get the "highs" that appeared during the boss fights to show up consistently so it felt like matches were too similar.

[wild lake]

makes taking in your own loot into fills a complete waste

[trail sky]

i'm fine with free kits, but some people just have no discipline in engagement. ticks can be dealt with via knife, but so many people spray an entire mag at em

[digital gust]

I can't spell, or read.

[low apex]

They should add a black noir skin for assasin ❤️‍🩹

[fresh arch]

Im at the point where Im out of space and I need to actually bring kits but then you queue up with randoms and they bring a free CyAc kit when Ive got 3.5k in my loadout, frustrating to just guarantee losing stuff

[timid pier]

I assumed most of you couldn't because this is a gamer discord yk?

[cerulean remnant]

Apex Legends plays just like Marathon. 😜

[digital gust]

I have crayons though.

[outer nest]

The enhanced2.5 free kits are decent Green gear. Especially the 4k one. Thats green gear tailored to your current shell!

[blazing sedge]

real i learned the hard way solo q trio into outpost and teamates were no shield

[clear tendon]

People are still stuck on the arc free kits. It will change overtime when people realise the free kits in marton are way worse than in arc

[timid pier]

What flavors?

[wild lake]

I know... but tell me why 95% of fills ignore everything and just want to go in for free gear like it's a rook run

[patent dew]

if you have and nvidia card don't update drivers to 595.79. is breaking marathon.

[low apex]

I wish Arachne free kit was a shotgun instead 🥲

[ancient narwhal]

Anyone got advice for Parasitism (1/5)? Finding it completely impossible in teams or solo - in teams we don't have good enough gear or experience (this is literally like the 2nd ever seki contract) so we get curbstomped by vastly outgeared teams. In solo... it's outpost solo, people there are even MORE geared (even higher level rooks get SHOTGUNS??) Would really appreciate some advice for getting this contract done

[digital gust]

I got 128 packs for days so any major flavor you looking for.

[lean oriole]

dont be bad, get it done

[wanton hemlock]

just git gud

[clear tendon]

Just survive

[magic rose]

Mays I had blue? I main titan

[mortal sequoia]

Even if you solo fill queue it sucks, you put on blue gear you get white gear runners, you put up white gear you get green runners

[eager forum]

honestly for me the game do not even feel like an extraction shooter it just feel like a battle royale

[digital gust]

hands 4 blues what I got handy

[brave latch]

It’s possible I’ve done it myself after that look forward to 5/5 😆

[mortal sequoia]

And they both die immediately and you're left there to either try rescue, extract or die vs 3 man

[wild lake]

Issue is needing to go to flight control, it's a central hub for PVP and Rooks, you're best bet is to just be patient and sneaky, take your time and try your best not to engage if doing it solo

[fresh arch]

I just need competent people to play with, none of my friends want this game cause they fell for the whole manufactured hate against this game

[wanton hemlock]

i feel that, same

[cerulean remnant]

Because the game encourages it. Free sponsored kits shouldn't be a thing but it was added to appease casuals. (Because the concept of Rook is flawed.)

[outer nest]

If you have bad luck with randoms and keep seeing "-4k" after a round, and your team "-300" . you start joining that club 😂

[wild lake]

Honestly... all but too true.

[near wolf]

when me and my rooks pull up

[brave latch]

Looks like a duo to me lol

[mortal sequoia]

-4k, -2k, -10k

[wild lake]

I lost 5k on an outpost run, reloaded with a free kit cause f it, got a duo with purple shields... I felt so bad

[ancient narwhal]

Thanks, hadn't considered that, truly incredible advice

[wanton hemlock]

im competent, feel free to add me xgutss#3718

[foggy oriole]

why cant i vault over so many objects...this is really annoying

[near wolf]

youre a runner not a jumper

[digital gust]

It does it just only shows green in the lobby once you get in game it's blue.

[outer nest]

I only deck out my char in solo. I have 0 issue losing it on my behalf

[ancient fern]

Look Gordon, rope! We can use this to traverse pits

[fresh arch]

hell yeah, ill send you a fr when i launch the game here in a few mins

[unborn sundial]

BOYS I wanna leave work and log into marathon

[clear tendon]

Its literally what it is though. If you feel you cannot win a pvp fight, Theres no trick apart from just being sneaky and waiting for everyone to leave. So just survive

[open remnant]

Work first, dying to shottie rooks later

[ancient narwhal]

Have tried this so many times I've lost count, no matter how sneaky, how long I wait, etc. I always get bodied by another player sprinting into the room with crazy gear or a shotgun faster than I can pull out my knife or get more than 5 shots off

[outer nest]

Jesus christ -10k lol 💀

[brave latch]

Ill call you n fake an emergency 😆

[wild lake]

likewise - looking for just some people to comm and game with - HazeySR#0783

[unborn sundial]

NO MORE WORK I just wanna collect disability and sit at home

[ancient narwhal]

But no one leaves the area I need to go to until like, final extract. I can't complete the entirety (or heck even 2 stages after the ghosts on the rooftop) of the contract within that time frame

[brave latch]

That handicap emoji moving fast af 😆

[unborn sundial]

the former is RAM and the latter is a connection issue

[near wolf]

where is wiintah

[foggy oriole]

the heights are not normalized. very irritating 😄

[clear tendon]

Whole lot of people here who would have went through a complete mental breakdown trying to pickup the bronze pocketwatch in early tarkov 😭

[frail yarrow]

ISTFG EVERY SINGLE TIME I BRING SOMETHING CRAZY WITH ME I DIE IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT EVVEN GETTING A CHANCE TO FIGHT BACK BUT THEN I GO IN WITH A FREE KIT AND I DO SURVIVE BUT ALL I FIND ARE DUST PARTICLES

[open remnant]

Talking of jumping I watched a clip of a Vandal triple jumping a giant space between two buildings. She can basically fly when she gets her best cores

[ancient narwhal]

Yep same

[brave latch]

“She’s a runner, she’s a track star
She gon’ run away when it gets hard
She can’t take the pain, she can’t get scarred
She hurt anyone that gets involved…”

[foggy oriole]

is there an optionto jump withotu vaulting ?

[cerulean remnant]

Sounds like the typical American. 🤭

[clear tendon]

I dont know what to tell you, i did that quest on my second attempt and i had to fight for it. Eventually youll get better at pvp and pull through

[opal pendant]

what's the best place to do the parasitism 2 quest?

[quartz rock]

Perimeter

[brave latch]

Perimeter (that’s how true it is)

[open remnant]

You can kill any player with enough patience and planning. Set up a trap.

[outer nest]

Quick tip: if you are out of mission rerolls your stuck until weekly reset. Found that out the hard way lol

[zealous violet]

The game crashed during matchmaking, got back, was eliminated and lost everything in my inventory... :/

[limpid lagoon]

guys, is there a community manager we can talk to here?
need help

[cerulean remnant]

Just do the tasks you are assigned. Don't be weak.

[reef nest]

I need to speak to the manager!

[brave latch]

Did you lose your stuff you joined game with ?

[open remnant]

A claymore placed exactly inside a dead players bag or a trap bag. Fire a couple of shots then hide and wait.

[outer nest]

Well now i do 😂

[burnt wasp]

collect five dust particles from pinwheel then deliver them to dcon

[quartz rock]

Just use the fake bag they work better b

[zealous violet]

I didn't reconnect I used "ESC" to go back to the menu, still had me eliminated. And lost all my items.

[outer nest]

That is genious lol

[open remnant]

Yeah if you have it that works a treat too.

[topaz hawk]

[latent marsh]

is there no marathon LFG yet?

[brave latch]

The items even loaded in with?
Not the ones you found.

[zealous violet]

yeah all the items I loaded with.

[open remnant]

It just works. Just don't grow a conscience and it will serve you well 😊

[reef nest]

please learn to search getting old. Channels&Roles>browse channels> looking for crew

[topaz hawk]

I wish we had gifs again

[zealous violet]

someone described it here :

https://help.marathonthegame.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/46982638838548-Game-Crash-during-Matchmaking?input_string=Game crashed during connection -

Hopefully it gets fixed.

[brave latch]

Ohhh there was a time that I crashed didn’t reconnect and still had items and I was sure I lost maybe I’m mixing something up. My apologies

[latent marsh]

@reef nest okay i didnt even know that was a thing. thanks i guess

[open remnant]

I probably shouldn't be revealing my secrets here tbh

Saying that I bet lots of people out there do it already lol

[silver jasper]

Is cryo archive dropping today ?

[cerulean remnant]

Share all of your secrets.

[reef nest]

Okay my bad, i was rude. yw 🙂

[opal obsidian]

I know it's a skill issue but i fuckin haaaaate dire marsh spawns

[brave latch]

No for sure I know crashing happens it happens to me .. I’m just not sure if every time I crashed I lost everything

[silver jasper]

There was a date from the Arg that said 15.03 , and that's today so I assumed cryo archive was gonna drop today

[cerulean remnant]

I like using the Thief drone to spot players and then draw all of the AI using it to attack them. 🤭

[maiden coral]

What's the best corp, and why's it NuCal?

[fickle wedge]

there's still time

[reef nest]

Everything that you are, belongs to CyAc

[cerulean remnant]

It's the UESC obviously. You don't trust your government?

[outer nest]

Nucal for life, pun intended

[balmy birch]

no haters today? crazy

[open remnant]

Btw if you didn't know already. You can hold down the place button for claymores and fine adjust it's position. Let's you hide it perfectly and even stick it to walls

[maiden coral]

Also, I realised today that the Thief drone doesn't just yoink stuff from pockets but can actually pick items up.
This realisation shook me to my core.

[brave latch]

Don’t jinx it

[unborn sundial]

Half my vault is salvage items I have nothing to exchange or upgrade for yet… is it worth just hanging onto them or selling em? I mean it’s a decent amount of space just sitting there. I don’t have access to the things that need them yet

[balmy birch]

I'll cover for them

marton bad pls bungo gib destin 3

[cerulean remnant]

CyAc Oni: "Don't trust the Mommy worm she will tell you whatever you want to hear."

Like....Oni. You aren't an unbiased source either....

[magic rose]

When are they gonna fix battleeye crashing the game?

[coarse pasture]

Helloooo! Does anyone know how the codex achievement for the 3rd title in which you need to "Kill 9 runners and evacuate in the last evacuation" works? Is it getting the kill when the guy is downed or when you down a guy you get the achievent? Also it has to be team kills or solo kills?

[outer nest]

At company level 30, will random mission rewards get even better? Like at level 20?

[open remnant]

Keep the salvage, you'll need it. We're getting a vault stacking update soon so you should end up with a lot more space

[maiden coral]

Does anyone know if - when you've got an objective that requires you to get an item from an NPC, e.g. the Traxus Introduction on Dire Marsh making you kill the big UESC shield guy.

Does the Thief Drone let you skip the 'killing' the actual enemy and just yoink the quest item from their inventory?

[serene basalt]

doubt sony will give them the money for d3 after this not hitting the money it cost to make. maybe be made by sony its self

[cerulean remnant]

It does not. That was one of the first things I tried and I was upset that they didn't reward creativity. The item only spawns from killing them.

[brave latch]

Thief drone is the funniest shit when your items just plop out and you gotta keep picking them up while running from drone n shooting at it

[magic rose]

Loving the game

Shite servers and battle eye crashes constantly after tryna play longer than 3-6 hours

[surreal plank]

battleeye stops my chrome opening from clicking an in game link to twitch lmaoo

[maiden coral]

It's a shame! I get it though; Thief would just be a mandatory pick for those quests to make them easy, haha!

[gleaming hearth]

so im going on my 4th day of it still be a traxus sponsor kit. anyone know if this is a bug?

[maiden coral]

And I can't image anyone at Bungie/Sony was expecting instant massive success with how negative the discussion has been around the game pre-launch.
Probably hoping the game steadily builds a playerbase over time lol.

[brave latch]

Bungie / Sony sounds so weird .. I remember when console wars was a thing

[vernal tinsel]

Who else up milkin they tick rn

[outer nest]

This could be a cyberpunk or no mans sky saleswise. Fine wine 😎

[rich topaz]

coming from tarkov with 2k hours, just got the game and went through the tutorial, the artstyle is very nice. Any other tarkov ppl here enjoying the game?

[serene basalt]

yeah i think this games the excuse sonys been looking for to fold bungie into the company

[mortal sequoia]

What was the deal with yesterday event? It barely got announced and the pump from it seems almost inexistent

[maiden coral]

Unfortunately, no. Tarkov has, over the course of a thousand hours, fried the synapses in my brain. I am no longer capable of feeling love, joy - no longer capable of smiling.

[serene basalt]

lol but they had bugs that made them bad this needs a full rework of ui and more content

[mortal sequoia]

I'm guessing most of the streamers real audience was already marathon players and the rest bots

[balmy birch]

im sorry

[mortal sequoia]

Would have been better to just give us an in-game events instead of streamers thing

[hoary crow]

went on a date today. she was not the one. didn’t understand when I pulled out the marathon steam charts. called me a “weirdo” for doing the important work of critical analysis on player counts every 30 minutes, sacrificing my time for the greater good. I bet she doesn’t even know I mod the /r/gaming subreddit at the same time. multitasking is nothing for me. but fine, leave.

[outer nest]

After arc and there small updates after 6 months im happy with bungies pace lol

[sudden acorn]

bro why my skin on the knife is removed after a couple of games??? when they will fix that this shi happening since beta

[mortal sequoia]

Best one will be the one

[balmy birch]

ui is perfect btw

[reef nest]

Eventually, they got more important things to fix rn know what i mean

[serene basalt]

well i mean come on give a break they listened to the community on d2 and look at the great changes they made lol

[outer lichen]

Perfect is a bit far, but it's not nearly as bad as most make it out to be

[unborn sundial]

it’s not that I am unfriendly, it’s that your pockets have stuff in there for me

[mortal sequoia]

Same happens to me all the time

[gloomy nova]

Howdy chat

[muted palm]

It's ok, she didn't deserve you.

[serene basalt]

please dear sir can you send me what your smoking lol

[smoky berry]

THESE FUCKING PLAYER SPAWNS SUCK ASS

[wise flume]

Wow solo outpost is dead af. 5 minutes sitting in matchmaking

[brave latch]

What do you think should be fixed?

[subtle sun]

Is it me, or are these spawns worse?

[maiden coral]

People realising that solo is a lesson in misery

[sudden acorn]

game looks fine to me idk besides this bug

[outer lichen]

No, people are just learning and anticipating them

[mortal sequoia]

What game needs is in-game clans, better and selective match making

[reef nest]

Nah i mean they working on issues rn, stash space, performance improvements, bug fixes, etc

[subtle sun]

I've been spawning next to teams a lot more frequently now. A lot more frequently. To the point I'm basically spawning right next to people sometimes.

[unborn sundial]

No solos is fun it’s just different from trios which is also fun for different reasons

[west carbon]

shoulkd be fixed is me htting m for map and i cras h'

[true sky]

I believe the last patch actually broke matchmaking, a lot of regions seem to now be locked without being able to find a match where before it everything worked fine

[balmy birch]

just get used to it 😭 it's nowhere near bad as people say it is

[reef nest]

I wasn't saying I think there is i am saying what they r busy doing ya know. knife skin ranks low 😄

[cerulean remnant]

Arc dropped quite a bit of content at the start. Bungie may do the same and drop off.

[maiden coral]

I've had this on Rook runs a lot!
Spawning in with enemy teams insanely close.
Don't mind when it's a Rook run, but still!

[outer lichen]

That has always been the case. Like I said, people are more bold, have better gear/upgrades and more willing to take fights with better map knowledge.

[outer nest]

Hehe maybe they still on their xmass break 😎 . joking aside, embark is a small studio and i guess they are scared hiring alot of new peeps for their 1 hit game. They got to sustain that payroll.

[west carbon]

we can all agree that the map crash bug is aggegious and shouldnt exist

[open remnant]

I'm curious, who here actually plays Vandal?

[subtle sun]

I don't think you're catching my meaning. I mean right next to people.

[civic lotus]

just had our entire inventory emptied at the final seconds of exfil by 2 theif drones, they gotta fix that shit, wtf

[unborn sundial]

Never happened to me 🤷‍♂️

[brave latch]

I was just curious to know what you thought needed to be fixed.. I’ misinterpreted my bad

[silk stone]

Man what the fuck is this server banding, are they prioritising this issue or they’ll break another thing im the next patch?

[balmy birch]

i saw a rook spawn next to another rook and get absolutely obliterated in one shot

[west carbon]

u play pc or poor boy?

[cerulean remnant]

It could be they found an issue with balancing due to ping or are region locking the areas filled with cheaters like China.

[unborn sundial]

Ofc I’m on pc

[maiden coral]

I did until I realised Thief just does Vandal's whole 'mobility shell' shtick better with the grapple lol.

[outer lichen]

If you're talking within line of sight I'm lvl 40 and have yet to see that happen

[balmy birch]

me neither

[ashen bay]

will recons seeker drone find fully invisible assassins? may be the move for solo if so

[serene basalt]

i agree its not the worst but come on its bad. it could be so much better. i mean people aint playing it the climber animals games got more player at the moment and this games sitting at 68 most played games. somethings not right

[sudden acorn]

yeah it's obvious but i said this bug exist since last server slam i thought they would fix it already

[spice bough]

place me...

[outer lichen]

I've seen so many people say "make it better" without actually saying what needs to be made better

[brave latch]

Def needs to be fixed asap

[vernal loom]

[eager forum]

I really hope bungie will do something for nerf the assassin in solo it is really awful to play with these people

[cerulean remnant]

Oh I'll place you right now. 😳

[pale cipher]

The biggest difference is the loss of double jump

[true sky]

I don't think that's what's happening, been seeing people complaing all around, from Oceania to South America, if I remember right even Destiny has a system that if they can't find a match on the nearest server it keeps expanding the search would lead me for example to be matched with NA players

[brave latch]

Opening the map in game is what you’re talking about right? just so we’re on same page

[reef nest]

Yeah only issue i got is crashing and happens a lot when i load outpost

[open remnant]

Ikr! Thief can move so much faster than Vandal with her grapple cancel/dash tech and fire immediately after. There's literally no reason to pick Vandal at this point. I think if they fix Vandals slide so she can fire immediately in it that would help.

[serene basalt]

well seemingly they all got a hol when this was released, i mean grt idea and they changed loads from the server slam. that should have been done months ago and allowed relevant change to the game. its not even optimized for high end pcs. Thats surley the basics no

[west carbon]

yeah its every once in a while idk wjhat causes it havent tested to find out but yeah in game i crash when opening map sometiems

[vernal loom]

ngghh yess I will place you in small room with one entrance in front of the door then I will shut down windows and I will run around making a lot of noise mmm yesss and then someone will take a bait and run into this small room they will run right into you and you will explode mmmm yessss

[cerulean remnant]

Locking everything behind sub menus with no shortcuts to the important bits is awful.

The keybinds make no sense and are slow. Inputs don't read all the time, etc.

[outer lichen]

They could also make the slide an offensive ability by allowing greatly increased melee damage during a slide

[ashen bay]

not true vandals cores are goated and make better movement builds than theif can get vandal has better movement and offence mich better entry frag and alot more dynamic theifs grapple cancel is very powerful though i see it getting patched like ds2 grapple cancel

[maiden coral]

Vandal would be better if, in the time it takes to charge up the arm cannon, I wasn't already dead from 2 WorceSTeRshire sauce shotgun blasts to my face.

[balmy birch]

i never use you omg

[reef nest]

i get it, theyll get too it dw

[full niche]

cant wait for the next update

[spice bough]

use me...

[sterile siren]

places on the inside of a building near a door

[ashen bay]

cores bro cores cut to the chase is amazing

[open remnant]

I'd just be happy to fire whilst using it tbh, it's more of a hindrance currently with the way it works

[pale cipher]

I mean literally every abiliity has this problem

[fast bloom]

Having to fight literally every team back 2 back 2 back 2 back because the entire map hears you is so anti fun...

[vernal loom]

the cow.

[brave latch]

…In hauler

[balmy birch]

do claymores work against uesc too btw?

[outer lichen]

Submenus and shortcuts understandable. Haven't had any issues with input registration.

[outer nest]

They Will fix it next week

[open remnant]

Crouch walking is quieter than walking

[west carbon]

yes i shold be able to press tab while redyed up wthout having to go to home screen to access cvault

[maiden coral]

I'm just not far in enough to be consistently using shell-specific cores, tbh.
Moreso just talking the base shells for early game!

[serene basalt]

they say that every week on d2 it never happens

[calm anchor]

i got robbed out of that tau ceti sticker lol.

[burnt wasp]

24k inventory value off a free kit 🤤

[outer lichen]

I think it would be cool if she got a super jump during her slide, like double the height of a normal jump

[fast bloom]

I mean the shot audibility distance, not footsteps wtf

[cerulean remnant]

Switching to a sidearm is faster than reloading.

[lilac lodge]

White 🥷🏿’s love movement videos 😭😭😭😭💀

[open flower]

Some of the best imo

[open remnant]

They changed it back and you can use that yourself to find players. It goes both ways

[fast bloom]

I know but wtf...

[cerulean remnant]

"Face toward enemy" 🫦

[maiden coral]

Vandal also lost, like, 95% aura from the cinematic. I love all the other shell designs but Vandal is not it.

[west carbon]

i think vandal slide should let me knife and shoot i dont get why i cant shoot during slide

[brave latch]

Thanks gaz

[west carbon]

hitting 3 then click is faster than reloading

[open remnant]

I don't mind vandals look, it's just her kit is lacking currently

[vernal loom]

I think vandal have the weakest and the most mainstream design in Marathon

[open flower]

Also has anyone been experience huge lag spikes while playing this week? I feel like I had really stable performance up until recently.
Now I'm getting a lot of, what I assume, is connection based stuttering with little red icons in the top right corner of my screen.

[inland ibex]

Favorite way to clear a guarded exfil is put down a bunch of claymores where the UESC spawn. EZ solo clear as Rook.

[tiny flicker]

Basically a worse destroyer lol imo, apart from the double jump

[open remnant]

Skins can help with that

[fast bloom]

But I don't want constant PVP. I don't have ADHD

[open flower]

Seeing UESC rubberband in a loop too even.

[hollow dew]

Recon seemed a little more playful and friendly in the cinematic when talking with the assassin about his airpod as well. She's so matter of fact now

[digital gust]

My favorite way is to let someone else do it then steal it.

[serene basalt]

lack of players your playing in different regions if they cant find a local game

[outer nest]

Check your isp service status for your region.

[open remnant]

You play solo?

[maiden coral]

I think Assassin is the only one that's actually consistent with the cinematic.
Because Assassin looks (and his players feel like) they're complete weirdos who would panic if they drop their airpod and can't listen to their 'OLD SCHOOL CLASSIC NIGHTCORE MIX - 6 HOURS' any more.

[digital gust]

They have not reverted the audio changes yet.

[outer nest]

Next week

[open remnant]

Looking forward to the next update, it's going to be a big one. Sound change and item stacks in vault

[digital gust]

It is coming, I think Thursday could be earlier.

[vernal loom]

nah I am not talking about colors, her skins having the same vibe. I mean those spikes, those punkish vibe, she looks unserious. plus her mainstream appeal is confirmed by how many people love her.

[open remnant]

That's kinda the point of Vandal tho right. The rebellious wild pick

[granite patrol]

Vandal is meant to be chic and coy in attitude. Their default pose/walk is literally childlike and playful.

[vernal loom]

lmao

[cerulean remnant]

It definitely seems like they were just meant to be characters in the universe and not just set shells during the cinematic. Too many personal touches and personality.

[digital gust]

Did you read the description of it?
The point of the look was to influence the style of the populace and in turn allow the shell to blend into crowds.
How it looks makes perfect sense.

[blazing sedge]

i need i need arachne to stop giving me lmg

[maiden coral]

I think all the other shells* look pretty cool when you switch to them, and then you switch to Vandal and her weirdly proportioned spikey-head ass stumbles onto the screen.

[west carbon]

just because people like a design and want to use it that makes it mainstream but doesn't mean its bad that mentality is a poser mentality

[vernal tinsel]

Wipes will kill the playerbase, and many people won't buy it bcuz seasonal wipes.

Bungie NEEDS to adjust the core gameplay loop to make it feasible without wipes every season.

[cerulean remnant]

Her terrible shoes!

[vernal loom]

yeah I totally understand it. I just think there is a better ways to show a rebellious character. but bungie was need selling character so I understand why they made her like that.

[open remnant]

You do know that their personalities we see in the trailer aren't of the shells right? They're the personalities of us. The consciousness that pilots the shells. The shells are empty vehicles for our consciousness.

[open flower]

Nah

[serene basalt]

shells could have been so much cooler. guess thats all 250 mil get u nowadays

[digital gust]

She's meant to look non military.
Besides thief the rest of the shells are military in origin.

[maiden coral]

Legit my only real pain points with Marathon right now are PC performance, and the fact that they didn't let us customise shells to a greater degree!

[vernal loom]

I never said its bad. I just personally dont like her appearance.

[brave latch]

Instead of trying to change the game why don’t you just change the game?

[cerulean remnant]

I am aware of that gimmick. The game directly contradicts it by giving each shell their own unique voice/personality.

[vernal tinsel]

Wipes should be OPTIONAL with PRESTIGING, with unlockable cosmetics and such and so forth to encourage level 100 players to reset.

This will keep casuals engaged and sweats motivated.

[serene basalt]

who wants to do those quest again. ill quit if they reset the quests

[crimson dove]

This is not arc raiders

[open remnant]

There are no Vandal, Thief, Assassin, Recon, Destroyer, Triage personalities. They're just empty shells. We are the personalities that inhabit them.

[open flower]

That would literally just make people feel like they're under even more pressure than outright losing their stuff, hell no lmao

[cerulean remnant]

I wouldn't be surprised if player counts drop off a cliff after the wipe if they do not add a huge amount of content.

[pseudo bluff]

No

[digital gust]

I guess?
Until you hit the emote button?

[serene basalt]

but why should we be forced to lose everything

[clear tendon]

Thats actually untrue based on the lore man

[vernal tinsel]

I don't play arc raiders. I am going by the 12 friends I have on xbox telling me they are not playing season 2, and the assortment of pc players all saying the same thing

[crimson dove]

did you play escape from tarkove?

[maiden coral]

Absolutely not. It's a PvP game, wipes are necessary in that. Arc gets by because the PvP balance isn't really impacted all that much by gear + there's a lot of PvE.

[open flower]

To reset the loot economy and because CyberAcme owns your soul

[fresh arch]

does drone resin drop in tool carts on any map or just dire marsh?

[open remnant]

It's not a gimmick tho lol. It's how it is. Vandal the person doesn't exist.

[unborn sundial]

what can be done about thief drone being able to steal from you at extract during the last moments when you can’t see or fight back due to extract effects

[vernal tinsel]

The game will 100% tank at reset

[crimson dove]

Oh well i guess

[maiden coral]

Anyone wanting the wipes to be optional should really put some time into an extraction shooter like Arena Breakout, where there are no mandatory wipes and the game is insanely stale and slowly dying.

[outer nest]

Wont ranked be a big gearsink anyway ? 🤔

[open flower]

Wait for the next patch 😭

[cerulean remnant]

The game contradicts it. I am aware what the lore says but the actual game itself spits in the face of the lore.

[clear tendon]

Each shell has a base skillset and personality that affects how it talks and thinks to better suit what its made for. Its literally in the lore

[hoary crow]

went on a date today. she was not the one. didn’t understand when I pulled out the marathon steam charts. called me a “weirdo” for doing the important work of critical analysis on player counts every 30 minutes, sacrificing my time for the greater good. I bet she doesn’t even know I mod the /r/gaming subreddit at the same time. multitasking is nothing for me. but fine, leave.

[digital gust]

The wipes are CyberAcme collecting on the massive amount of debt you owe them.
The main goal of any runner is to make enough money to get free.

[calm anchor]

Main issue I’m having atm is having a dedicated team.

My buddies aren’t geeked on this game like I am and ultimately was the only one to grab it and now I’m kinda sitting and spinning in fill lobbies or solo and it’s not as fun.

Is there anywhere I can potentially find teams or something in the works to helps players meet one another?

[west carbon]

then why does it matter if its jsuts design issue and you doint even playt the character

[pseudo bluff]

It's impossible to get caught by a thief drone mid exfil if you literally pay attention to your surroundings before an exfil and DURING an exfil. This is how Rooks wipe squads, lack of awareness

[serene basalt]

kappaed 3 times bro last wipe was the worst one but at least you could do shooterborn with the Winchester type rifle which was fun. wouldn't wipe again tho.

[reef nest]

Ok tell them we said thanks for stopping by

[hollow dew]

The cinematic has a million questions about identity that I neeeeeeed answering. Like why is ONI showing Assassin and Vandal the same picture of a child? Why does assassin keep vandals lucky charm? Why were they both completely intoxicated by the airpod?

[vernal loom]

I actually hadn't. that giving more sense to her appearance, thanks! but still its just not my vibe haha so it will not change my opinion about her.

[brave latch]

I’m curious to know how everyone feels about this

[open remnant]

@cerulean remnant in the trailer when we see the shells talking that's the voices of the consciousness inhabiting the shells. It's not the voice of the shells themselves

[digital gust]

#lfc-any-zone discord needs a forced tutorial.

[maiden coral]

The more likely reality is that playerbase dwindles over time and then picks up again with the wipe.

[outer sleet]

Hellooo

[near wolf]

yeah literally who would choose to optionally lose all their shit. The foundation for progression in your game should not be a setting a player can turn on and off like motion blur

[calm anchor]

Thanks!

[keen gate]

This causes gear fear to be higher, it also means there will be a set of players (those who choose not to reset) to have an advantage against those who do reset. Since they’ll have crazy loot 24/7. it works in arc because half the playerbase doesn’t want to PvP. This would be a nightmare in marathon.

[unborn sundial]

I mean I like the thief drone but during the last moments you can’t do anything about it and it can keep stealing

[serene basalt]

nope its proven wipes lose players

[digital gust]

I guess?
Idc what she looks like vandal is obviously inspired by megaman therefor my shell.

[unborn sundial]

imagine having pixel attachment 🤣🤣🤣

[vernal loom]

because I having a conversation and want to share my opinion with community. I dont need to play the character to have an opinion about her design.

[tiny flicker]

Try telling rust that

[pseudo bluff]

High gear destroyer with purple implants and a gold shield is the reincarnation of striker titan and you'll never experience it if you have gear fear or don't pursue kitted squads and high loot areas.
My thief double grapple goldy gets used every run

[hoary crow]

They're planning on adding new shells/maps/etc and making changes to other things between seasons too. it's not just a wipe

[cerulean remnant]

Yes, and then the moment you can select your shell that cinematic is made completely irrelevant by the shells having their own personality and traits.

[brave latch]

Personally never happened to me (yet) so idk how to feel about it. I’m asking to see how others feel about it n maybe we can come up with solution or discuss some ideas

[open flower]

If the cinematic is still concurrent with release lore, the Tau Ceti runners don't have any memory of who they are or why they're even here without ONI's onboarding
So that little airpod is genuinely the first time they've ever heard music
It's them rediscovering what it meant to be human, and recognizing that connection between them is why Assassin hesitates

[maiden coral]

This just isn't the reality, and anyone thinking wipes should be optional really just doesn't understand the point of an extraction shooter.

These games lose half their appeal once you've got 100 unwiped hours and have no need to be 'careful' whatsoever.

[open remnant]

I have a theory about that. What if the reason they saw the same photo of themselves is because they're both the same personality and they've been copied and put in different shells. What if all the different consciousness are just copies made to think they're individuals who have lives when in reality they're not even real. Assassin and Vandal liked the same music because they're the same minds.

[clear tendon]

Everything youve been saying has been false lol

[west carbon]

i think a lot of people say one thing but mean another like a lot of people say they wont play season 2 but then a new map and shell and guns and etc. drop then they all hop back on to see whats new

[hoary crow]

went on a date today. she was not the one. didn’t understand when I pulled out the marathon steam charts. called me a “weirdo” for doing the important work of critical analysis on player counts every 30 minutes, sacrificing my time for the greater good. I bet she doesn’t even know I mod the /r/gaming subreddit at the same time. multitasking is nothing for me. but fine, leave.

[serene basalt]

thats a survival game totally diffrent. they have to do it because of house building

[crimson dove]

So did you buy Marathon?

[outer sleet]

Do you guys think they'll add a pve mode to the game?

[unborn sundial]

wipes are a huge opportunity for larger rebalances changes and additions without disrupting an active meta or sabotaging a play style that works in a particular frame of time

[digital gust]

Only reason arc has so many concurrent is because there's a black market for items my man.
Rmt is what is keeping that game so heavily populated.

[grim carbon]

so why is arc raiders so successful 🧐

[maiden coral]

Imagine genuinely having the view that wiping is bad. That's a one way ticket to a smelly bum.

[reef nest]

If only there was some way to research a game and genre before buying it and complaining

[brave latch]

Casual .. promo .. fomo.

[digital gust]

The fact that people don't know that about arc completely boggles my mind.... shakes dice

[near wolf]

success and competence are not the same thing

[unborn sundial]

I wish more PvP games wiped regularly

[cerulean remnant]

The game being less stressful and fun isnwhat keeps it so heavily populated.

[upper storm]

because it's vr chat disguised as an extraction shooter

[tiny flicker]

That’s cap bro they wipe because the player base prefers it lol, it’s still a full loot PvP game with tech tree progression and the end goal being accumulate wealth through resources and gear

[upper niche]

Jeff Gerstmann’s loving the shit out of game btw

[serene basalt]

yeah and its okay i have over 2000 hours on d2 and thought i would give it a go. i just cant get my eft pals or d2 pals to buy it. ive even offered to buy it for them just to have a team.

[grim carbon]

so arc is success and competence is wipes that makes sense

[dreamy eagle]

marton bad fck!!

[vernal loom]

I having a bit troubles with it because I am not sure 3 month will be enough personally for me tbh. but there should be wipes for sure.

[digital gust]

No...... Sorry.

[pseudo bluff]

Levels the playing field for the 2 toes on thumb sticks and deer hooves on keyboards. How on earth is that bad when everyone's given the equal opportunity to chase power!! 😭

[maiden coral]

Same as mentioned before - Arc has plenty of non-PvP appeal, and raiders don't grow much in overall strength over the duration of a wipe.

[inland ibex]

Call of Duty wipes every year when they release a new game

[open remnant]

I know for some it's hard to believe but we're not selecting heroes in this game to play. We're selecting empty shells and we are the minds that give them personality.

[crimson dove]

Tarkov wiped every patch lol so i dont understand the differance here. This game needs wipes to keep it fresh, no different from any other game that wipes like rust. If you bought the game knowing it was going to wipe and you dont want it to that your own fault

[clear tendon]

Me when i spread lies

[west carbon]

true but thats the same as me walking in public and having a conversation with a homie about a person then going yeah " yeah shes fat and ugly i dont really like her outfit i wish she would change everything about hereself "

[pseudo bluff]

Read more lore

[serene basalt]

i respect your opinion bro but wipes are not for me imo

[open remnant]

We're picking sports cars to drive basically.

[upper niche]

Why are people worried about wipes. Better than real life, no wipe once you’re dead.

[peak rain]

This community has many weebs 🤔

[clear tendon]

False. I suggest you read some lore

[dreamy eagle]

gotta wipe cuz it's literal poopoo dookie

[near wolf]

no, a piece of art being more commercially successful is not equivalent to that piece of art's competence, nuance, or expression

[vernal loom]

bro vandal is not a real person chill

[maiden coral]

ABI doesn't wipe, and that has just resulted in anyone with hundreds of hours having a storage + koen total in the hundreds of millions, never needing to use anything but top tier gear, and the devs had to isolate / gear restrict gamemodes just to stop them bullying new players.

[hollow dew]

Same reason frieren is

[open remnant]

The lore literally states shells are just that. The consciousness that pilots them is seperate.

[sinful wren]

Mpreg

[upper niche]

Classic Marathon worth it for lore/immersion?

[paper island]

What do y'all do with your prestiege gear? I feel like it's just rotting a vault slot lmao

[brave latch]

That’s fire when you really think about it

[dreamy eagle]

i think it's free actually

[wheat pond]

tired of free kit filler timmies, need duos yesterday

[sinful wren]

This is where I'd keep my prestige gear

IF I HAD ANY

[hoary crow]

went on a date today. she was not the one. didn’t understand when I pulled out the marathon steam charts. called me a “weirdo” for doing the important work of critical analysis on player counts every 30 minutes, sacrificing my time for the greater good. I bet she doesn’t even know I mod the /r/gaming subreddit at the same time. multitasking is nothing for me. but fine, leave.

[west carbon]

@vernal loom like ur brigning upo personal hate against a character base design and look or aestetic in a video game rather than things that actually matter like the playstyle or how the character stacks against others like thief

[serene basalt]

i get where your coming from and you have avalid point main reason i bought this and am playing it as there not much else to play. completed res and this years been poor for games so far. oh and i'm rubbish at cs lol

[maiden coral]

Shells are warframes.

[paper island]

I got a prestiege pack, a bunch of purple shields, and they just sit in vault while I take blue stuff anyway lmao

[near wolf]

free so only spending time. awesome story if you're accepting of older level design, art design, gameplay, etc.

[crimson dove]

i dont care about how much you played destiny 2 you bought a game knowing its going to wipe and now you complain about it its months away the game sbeen out for 10 days get over it, if the game doesnt wipe then it would get stale as shit after 3 months, plus new wipes bring new maps shells, updates and balances this is all needed wipes are most certainly a good thing for this game

[open remnant]

Ikr it's an awesome concept. Really well thought out

[keen gate]

I’m saving some high tier gear for cryo

[dreamy eagle]

except shells are cooler 😎

[sinful wren]

Just save your prestige stuff for cryo vault I guess

[clear tendon]

Every shell literally has a personality matrix that is specifically picked and designed to suit its role. They even explain runners experience self doubt and memory loss because of said personality matrixes. It aint hard to actually read lore before speaking on it

[digital gust]

Join me on arc raiders discord real quick... Or check the reddit... Or anywhere else that has social media.
The engagement doesn't match the player count even slightly wich is a big red flag that you have a duck ton of sweatshops running.
Also it's about looking at the traffic, I know you probably are not technically capable of this it's a bit advanced but the traffic shows the story, then there is the actual markets and there offerings and if you calculate the time it takes to earn the items they have for sale it leads you to believe it's a very large operation.

[paper island]

yeah I got like 3 keys for cryo so I guess I'll use full kits up there

[crimson dove]

why not tarkov? whats wrong with that game? you did shooter born you said go do that again then.... go play arc raiders if you dont want wipes thats an option but yet you are still here playing Marathon so i dont get it...

[sinful wren]

Every other team will be geared up so that's the smart thing to do

[open remnant]

But there are multiple shells of the same type

[solemn hearth]

So warframe

[maiden coral]

Honestly, some actual credit to Marathon is that the shells aren't, like, 'hot'.
Like, they've all got weird ass physiques.

[serene basalt]

ah theres the thing my good sir after 3 years its should have released with more than 4 maps... no

[digital gust]

I'm a grand master tenno.

[cerulean remnant]

There's tons of engagement with the game?

[vernal loom]

I talked about design. in a game. a game to which this server is dedicated. character design is a part of gamedev, I have every right to have an discussion about it at this server. plus I never said anything hateful, never insulted anyone playing vandal.

[near wolf]

Arc Raiders is an "extraction shooter" in the same way Destiny 2 is an "mmo". Just because a casualized version of the genre has more mainstream appeal, doesn't mean it should be followed by all titles within that genre.

[dreamy eagle]

probably because theyre mass manufactured

[digital gust]

Not really... The discords kinda dead too....

[hoary crow]

sounds woke to me 🙃

[serene basalt]

done everything in it. i bought edge of darkness when it first came out so played that game to death

[grim carbon]

you will lose everything and you will like it otherwise refund @serene basalt

[solemn hearth]

[pseudo bluff]

My rook starts with a WSTR shotgun due to my Arachne upgrades, a wipe resets that. Takes barely a week to obtain that perk again. Within the same week of the S2 wipe I'll have that perk again.
Stop overthinking wipes and be more efficient with your time

[hoary crow]

went on a date today. she was not the one. didn’t understand when I pulled out the marathon steam charts. called me a “weirdo” for doing the important work of critical analysis on player counts every 30 minutes, sacrificing my time for the greater good. I bet she doesn’t even know I mod the /r/gaming subreddit at the same time. multitasking is nothing for me. but fine, leave.

[serene basalt]

i hear you bro

[digital gust]

I have 500 hours in arc BTW. So I'm not talking from the outside lol

[sinful wren]

Are there actually people that think wipes aren't necessary for an extraction shooter? Tf lmao

[lean oriole]

give me swimsuit vandal skin please bungie

[dreamy eagle]

if wipes are so bad then why do yall wipe ur asses after shitting
checkmate atheists ☝️

[cerulean remnant]

To be honest that's a really poorly written way to shoehorn characters into the game instead of letting us customize them.

[digital gust]

I don't.

[keen gate]

Arc launched with 4 maps then added a 5th shortly after. Marathon launched with 4 maps and is adding a 5th shortly after lol

[crimson dove]

marathon will get new maps and have the old maps changed EVERY wipe, the devs say the old maps will get changed to like being dark and added hazords so it will always be somthing fresh and what do you mean only 4 maps after 3 years what are you even talking about

[clear tendon]

Yes and they all have their specific personality matrix. Every vandal has the same energetic, cocky personality. Every assassin has a snark, quiet type. Etc

[pseudo bluff]

Insane assumption to assume that everyone wipes. We have crustables around us

[dreamy eagle]

goated behavior

[hoary crow]

went on a date today. she was not the one. didn’t understand when I pulled out the marathon steam charts. called me a “weirdo” for doing the important work of critical analysis on player counts every 30 minutes, sacrificing my time for the greater good. I bet she doesn’t even know I mod the /r/gaming subreddit at the same time. multitasking is nothing for me. but fine, leave.

[pallid halo]

how to report hackers?

[digital gust]

Do you have a bucket?

[sinful wren]

Under my racerx gaming chair

[near wolf]

was he using wall hacks to shoot you through smoke 🥺

[serene basalt]

mate you sound like im attacking you personally i'm just sharing my view is all. no insult intended

[cerulean remnant]

"I just let it crust over; peel it off like a scab".

[dreamy eagle]

i have a bed 💯

[sinful wren]

Jesus christ

[open remnant]

each shell type has its own "personality matrix" to help your human mind adjust to the synthetic body. This is why every Vandal shell might seem to share the same "vibe" or voice—they are all programmed clones of the same original template.

The personality matrix allows the consciousness inhabiting the shells to adjust to the shell type. There is no Vandal consciousness. There is only ours. The personality matrix just allows us to adapt better to the shell type.

[brave latch]

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

[west carbon]

i hope u have a great night

[digital gust]

The colonel would approve.

[magic rose]

Anyone else getting kinda tired of collecting marathon keys and not being able to use them?

[pseudo bluff]

Grab extra mida kits before it becomes Arachne machine gun again!

[crimson dove]

none takin lol but what are you even talking about the game has 4 maps after 3 years its been out for 10 DAYS lol

[tepid knot]

my game legit freezes for second when activating thief visor, even tho performance is otherwise ok

[wild fog]

I just threw up in my Marton-flavored cheerios 🤢

[serene basalt]

but the maps are tiny and there 4 teams

[digital gust]

No bucket equals less kills.
Also do you have a bipod for your knife?

[sinful wren]

MOM! Bathroom!...bathroom...

[open remnant]

A personality matrix is basically like a conditioning tool to help us adjust to the shell. It's not a real person.

[near wolf]

you decide what items you loot