🗣marathon-general-chat

[glacial bane]

the comeback from that mishap will be insurmountable

[pastel wave]

send them to the gulag

[brittle dove]

"I think a world where actively harming others is preferable" <- this is an opinion

[wooden roost]

what a good vocab word insurmountable

[sonic swan]

we just call that an aura loss nowadays

[glacial bane]

I see

[kindred vigil]

insurmountable is a tuff word

[brittle dove]

if you need aura then you dont deserve it

[sonic swan]

i got extra if you want some

[kindred vigil]

how did charisma turn into aura who made aura

[wooden roost]

hippies

[kindred vigil]

I see it actually... 🧠

[stiff verge]

Aura isn't quite the same a charisma

I feel presence is more the fitting terminology

[wooden roost]

i got mad presence

[kindred vigil]

is it like.micheal Jackson stage aura

[stiff verge]

It's one thing to be likable it's the other thing to be the cornerstone of attention and power

[pastel wave]

the aura farming king

[brittle dove]

being a good ragebaiter doesnt give you aura though

[wooden roost]

tim can u sing me a lullaby

[stiff verge]

True that's why I ain't trying to be one

[kindred vigil]

old McDonald had a farm eieiei oh

[brittle dove]

but ragebaiting gives you attention and power

[wooden roost]

shut uppppp

[kindred vigil]

okay 🥀

[pastel wave]

oh hell nah LMAO

[kindred vigil]

❔❓

[stiff verge]

I wouldn't really say it makes you seem powerful more desperate for power

[wooden roost]

my fault

[brittle dove]

the appearance of power is power

[wooden roost]

true

[brittle dove]

there is no difference

[pastel wave]

what is bro waffling about

[wooden roost]

there is a lil bit of difference

[kindred vigil]

I get what he ironing

[sonic swan]

tywin audition

[stiff verge]

Mate seems upset at me Couse they are tagging me with almost all their replies lol

[sonic swan]

bc you’re responding

[wooden roost]

@stiff verge hello

[brittle dove]

god forbid i have a conversation

[pastel wave]

if this chat is anything to go off of i can't wait for in game prox chat

[kindred vigil]

You know....a toasted peanut butter and jelly sando would be nice... 💭

[brittle dove]

allah strike me down

[stiff verge]

Heya!

[sonic swan]

inshallah brother

[wooden roost]

at 4am bro lock in

[kindred vigil]

I don't have peanut or jelly or bread rn or butt ter

[wooden roost]

go rob the jewlery store tell em make you a grill

[kindred vigil]

Like the payday heist

[wooden roost]

no like the nelly song

[stiff verge]

Damn I'm just fucking vibing hard to my music rn

[pastel wave]

bing chilling

[stiff verge]

Big bing chilling

[kindred vigil]

what are u listening to mustard

[wooden roost]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0Aqlt4N5h6rUtKnd09VXpr?si=3167543daea44adb peak

[brittle dove]

music for pregnant men

[wooden roost]

whole top diamond and the bottom rose gold 💪

[stiff verge]

Here is what I'm vibin to

https://open.spotify.com/track/6sFdHeSrBMZH3M4uvnpjrA?si=sR0WJzpDQCeevj6jcYWEtQ

[wooden roost]

prolly not better than prime nelly 🙄

[stiff verge]

Who's that ?

[pastel wave]

rip

[wooden roost]

hes a rapper from early 2000s

[sonic swan]

bunch of ip grabbers in chat

[brittle dove]

2000s pop is the junk food of music

[wooden roost]

its sooooo yummy

[kindred vigil]

luckily that's when McDonald's was good so

[pastel wave]

bro is the worst rage baiter

[brittle dove]

yes but its not good long term

[wooden roost]

who even gives a FUCK honestly

[kindred vigil]

McDonald's bring back all day hash browns u losers

[brittle dove]

i do, cuz i get tired of it quick even if it goes real hard sometimes

[wooden roost]

listen to cut the world by antony and the johnsons

its an album shout out tim apple for putting me on

[kindred vigil]

shout-out old hea music

[stiff verge]

To each their own I mean I prefer listening to dnb Basshouse colour bass metal metal core metal step
Dubstep funk house house funk electronica death step and all kinds of music tbh
It just needs to be good in my eyes

[brittle dove]

i only listen to music i view as bad

[wooden roost]

what kinda metal like what bands

[kindred vigil]

Anthony fantano

[stiff verge]

That just seems miserable mate

[brittle dove]

i listen to one kind of music and its only the kind i hate the most and makes me the most upset

[brittle dove]

yep it is, its my prime operating principle

[stiff verge]

Mate are you like genuinely alright

[brittle dove]

are you?

[stiff verge]

I mean I'm stressed and overworked but genuinely I am

[brittle dove]

good for you "cuh"

[wooden roost]

we should all listen to more ol dirty bastard than we already are

[kindred vigil]

what is that

[sonic swan]

wu tang clan

[kindred vigil]

I'm not locked I gotta lock in

[wooden roost]

hes from wutang clan

he made the song "baby i got ya money dont ya worry"

[stiff verge]

But like question stand mate if something's like genuinely wrong you should probably talk it out
It's healthier in the long run even when it's going to feel bad in the moment

[wet herald]

Hello

[wooden roost]

imma go to bed gn

[stiff verge]

Good night mustard

[wet herald]

Goodnight champ

[sonic swan]

damn you made him go to bed immediately

[kindred vigil]

Goodnight mustard

[wet herald]

Yes Charles hates me

[kindred vigil]

Damn Charles 🥀

[sonic swan]

is that the government name

[wet herald]

I made it up

[stiff verge]

[wet herald]

Nice pfp btw

[sonic swan]

thanks choom

[wet herald]

Whatve you guys been playin

[brittle dove]

i only play games that are bad in my eyes

[kindred vigil]

Killing floor 💯 and finals

[wet herald]

New one?

[kindred vigil]

no 1-2

I need to look into my single player games

[stiff verge]

Oh damn wait since when are emojis from other servers disallowed I could have sworn we where once allowed to use them

[wet herald]

W I heard 3 was doodoo

[kindred vigil]

It is it's in a payday 3 situation

[wet herald]

Damn

[sonic swan]

they’re not

[wet herald]

You heard about Den of Wolves ?

[stiff verge]

When I check my emotes it only shows the server emotes and Standart emotes

[kindred vigil]

I have it looks fun made by the og payday devs I think

[wet herald]

Yeah I think so , been playing Risk of Rain 2

[sonic swan]

sorry i thought you said they were allowed

[kindred vigil]

ror2 is fun

[brittle dove]

im highly skeptical of that based on the marketing

oh its the same studio as gtfo though

[stiff verge]

tella

[wet herald]

Looks cool, they have some cool ARG on their website too

[brittle dove]

yeah i just saw an ad for it in the same indieslop style that gets advertised on reddit so i was skeptical but afaik gtfo is a pretty solid game so it seems legit

[worn knoll]

fym indieslop

[jaunty glen]

Salut les gars Hello community MTHN

[brittle dove]

low effort roguelikes made with ai that spend more effort marketing than game devving

[worn knoll]

Where's the AI. Where's the roguelike. Why would you assume that of a game just because it has ads. It's by the fucking ex-payday devs.

Art is dead because of "slop" categories and we just have to watch it

[brittle dove]

because the majority of ads i see for games are for utter shit so thats the heuristic i used to judge it. which i updated after learning more about it

[worn knoll]

indieslop styleslop effortslop friendslop qualityslop rogueslop rpgslop depressionslop artslop fidelityslop cartoonslop boomerslop people love the dopamine they get from pattern recognition so fucking much they'd rather exercise it beyond all logic than actually fucking think.

[brittle dove]

people using words to communicate? beyond the pale

what did you like that got called slop?

[worn knoll]

which you wouldn't have done unless someone had brought it up to you. how much other stuff are u missing bc you write it off as "[adjective]slop"

[brittle dove]

Art isn't dead. slop is just the trendy way of saying trash.

[night oar]

i agree with @brittle dove and disagree with @worn knoll

[kindred vigil]

Thanks for ur input

[worn knoll]

this game, every new blood game, undertale/deltarune, e33, every new extraction shooter, every new movie, fucking everything

[night oar]

Always, friend

[brittle dove]

so essentially youre just not okay with people calling the stuff you like shit?

[worn knoll]

I'm not ok with people calling anything and everything that doesn't immediately trigger their dopamine receptors shit

[kindred vigil]

it's tough as a sonic fan every other game is shit 🥀🥀

curse of 2010-2019 sonic

[worn knoll]

If you cannnot fucking look at something for more than 10 seconds before writing it off as "slop" and never looking back you're not a smart person

and the fact that that's what most people do is scary

[brittle dove]

everything isnt made for everyone. people are going to think the things you like are shit. this isnt new, and it isnt getting worse because people are calling it slop instead of shit

[worn knoll]

it objectively is

are you kidding me?

[brittle dove]

objectively? what metric are you using? what peer reviewed study do you have on deck to wheel out

or are you just making a feelings based argument because the word slop irritates you more than the word shit

[worn knoll]

Look the fuck on the internet man. People don't call shit slop the same way they'd call anything trash. They see two things that look alike and decide there's a new kind of slop.

[brittle dove]

they definitely do

[worn knoll]

Yeah but that's not the sense of the word I'm complaining about

I'm complaining about people seeing a vague pattern and writing off everything that fits in it because repetition means slop

[brittle dove]

its just less words. "another dogshit pixel art indie game" -> "more indiselop"

youre complaining that people dont like the stuff that you do and trying to make it a statement about something larger

[worn knoll]

It's fuckin' anti-intillectual. See that's the ONLY one you saw before this term. Now if there's more than 3 games similar to each other it's a new kind of slop. You didn't get that before.

[brittle dove]

its not any worse than the way people talked about shit they didnt like before

not everything is for everyone. its ok if people think the stuff you like is shit

[worn knoll]

you're deciding that because you don't like being called out for dropping logic to engage in quick and easy replacements for actual analysis

see you can make anything up about someone's argument if you wanna

[brittle dove]

im not deciding it, the way youre talking just blatantly betrays that this is your real concern

[night oar]

i agree with @worn knoll and disagree with @brittle dove

[worn knoll]

no, I answered your question as a courtesy and you're trying to debase my whole argument on it

[brittle dove]

i asked the question because of what you said about the topic before i asked the question

[night oar]

/playtesr

[kindred vigil]

/redeem

[night oar]

/aplha

/ApplyTest

[brittle dove]

no my main argument against you is that what happens today isnt any worse than whats happened in the past

[worn knoll]

I thought admitting there was potential bias and then presenting actual points besides that would help reassure you that that wasn't the point, but if you're the type to see an ad on reddit and immediately write a game off as indieslop without looking, I should've guessed you'd pull shit like this. easier than saying anything that means something.

[worn knoll]

something neither of us can prove at all because it's entirely anecdotal on both fronts

[brittle dove]

yeah i use heuristics to sort information you got me!

[kindred vigil]

Anecdotal.... 🧠

[worn knoll]

boy you think you're smart

[brittle dove]

thats why i didnt say anything is "objective"

[worn knoll]

so why try to argue using it

why use that point that is of no value to either of us

[kindred vigil]

Heuristics...🧠

[brittle dove]

because this is the only way to make decisions. do you just click on random shit and buy it or do you use previous information to inform your decisions

[worn knoll]

YES IT'S HOW EVERY HUMAN BEING THINKS I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU THINK YOU'RE ACCOMPLISHING BY SAYING IT

Like "yes I base my arguments on facts and logic" doesn't mean shit because you're just assuming things about me

[brittle dove]

im saying that the thought process i used to discard that game initially is reasonable

[worn knoll]

"Sometimes bad games advertise on reddit. Hmmm...indieslop. Any game advertised on on reddit is bad!" this is not heuristics this is primitive bullshit

symptom of the anti-intellectual bullshit pervasive in internet society

[brittle dove]

no, most games advertised in this style are shit, therefore my first impression is that this game is shit, and im open to updating this assessment later

[worn knoll]

cars have windows....perhaps the windows make them move. "but houses have windows" hmm...so it isn't the windows, but something else. "you're stupid" nuh uh I'm open to updating my assessments

I'm done this is pointless you're too up your own ass

[brittle dove]

no, bungie jumping without a rope is probably dangerous, perhaps theres new technology that makes it safe but until i see evidence of it im going to assume its dangerous

[kindred vigil]

Bungie? 👀🙏

[brittle dove]

this neighberhood is all boarded up, its probably not safe, but maybe later ill see evidence to the contrary

[wet herald]

You know Halo Marathon Myth stuff like that

[kindred vigil]

Destiny left out #tragic

[brittle dove]

did your ancestors eat rotten fruit because some fruit is ok to eat rotten? or did they discard it because the heuristic that eating rotten food is dangerous is generally useful?

[wet herald]

Guardian

[brittle dove]

"im going to eat this raw chicken because sometimes i dont get sick when i do it". you are anti intellectual if you judge this chicken unsafe before trying it. this isnt chickenslop

like your chicken sashimi might be declicious and well prepared but my first instinct is to not eat that shit

[worn knoll]

I knew it from the moment you chose "heuristic" as the word of choice to make a trend in this argument you discarded anything I had to say from the get-go. Because you use it like a 10 year old who just learned a new word. You saw an opportunity to feel or look or, idk what you're looking for, but seem smart. Either to yourself or others. Not a debate.

[brittle dove]

incredible non argument

[worn knoll]

Basic instinct applied to art and politics is how we get fascism.

[worn knoll]

Yeah I said i was done

I'm just judging you now

[brittle dove]

you cant be a serious person. using prior evidence to inform your opinion about something doesnt lead to fascism. it does the opposite

[pastel wave]

dude is literally only here to rage bait just ignore them

[worn knoll]

But all those racist pussies scream out "pattern recognition" don't they.

[worn knoll]

I'm blocking once I get this reply idk who ur referring to but either way we won't be interacting soon

[brittle dove]

and you think that makes pattern recognition a bad thing? lmao

because thats the argument youre making

[worn knoll]

No, dumbass, I think relying on base instinct from prior experience is not reliable when applied to things more advanced than basic survival.

[brittle dove]

its not "base instinct" its prior information

[worn knoll]

gtfo

[pastel wave]

i blocked them already lol

[brittle dove]

we use prior information to inform future decisions

do you just do shit randomly

[worn knoll]

Poor guy actually seems to think these things are comparable a little. I know he's just trying to win a fight but I also think he thinks he's smart for this, which is really sad.

Indieslop jfc

anyone here, since I'm a regular know this about me. you put slop in front of something and discard it without consideration for anything but first impressions you're gonna get a rant

[brittle dove]

youre actually just mad i said indieslop lol. dont pretend to have an actual disagreement. just say i said a word that irritates you

[worn knoll]

it'll be a little pretentious and maybe bring up concepts that have required reading too, so be prepared

[wild lake]

Stop pinging my discord cause you're malding over a word you clown

[worn knoll]

Fuck you mean you get pings from every message in this server

Or do you genuinely try to have a fully clean discord

[wild lake]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-loud-scream-girl-kid-hispanic-girl-gif-3761151244536557927

you right now

[brittle dove]

btw the reason i say stuff like indieslop is because theres a chance it triggers someone like you. most of the games in my library are indie games

[worn knoll]

Everybody spam some meaningless bullshit this guy is gonna get so mad

Fuckin' knew it

rat bastard oh you rascal oh you silly billy oh you little SHIT

[brittle dove]

fucking knew you got ragebaited into an argument and then lost it?

[worn knoll]

I don't respect ragebait as a concept so it doesn't embarass me to fall for it.

[wet herald]

What did I just come back to

[wild lake]

A grown man crying over the word indieslop

[wet herald]

We are all still friends that are looking to have a good time on Marathon yes?

[kindred vigil]

You know some spicy noodles would be good right now.. 💭

[stiff verge]

So my dumbass just wasted time and made a Nutella glass nucaloric

[wet herald]

Yum...

[twilit sparrow]

no i only hang with the cool arachne kids

[wet herald]

You fellas don't even have a group in here...

[twilit sparrow]

We are like delta force, we dont exist..... or do we?

[stiff verge]

Well anyway be back in a bit gotta go train a bit

[nimble canyon]

Do yourself and the world a favor and change it to @'s only.

Right click a Discord server going into notifications and set the option there.

[stiff verge]

Alright I have returned from training anyway how y'all doing?

[night oar]

they left right after
how they've managed to have a discord account for over 7 years like this is really interesting

[stiff verge]

Wtf went down I was only really gone for like and hour and 30 minutes why was there suddenly an argument sprung

[night oar]

arguing is fun

[stiff verge]

Hmm I find it rather exhausting

In my opinion a debate is fun

[dusk badger]

NuCal spotted. Millions must liquid burger.

[stiff verge]

But that's a lot more civil then an argument Couse in a debate every point of view is considered

[stiff verge]

On burger?

[dusk badger]

On MIDA….

[stiff verge]

Although I'm nucaloric and you are mida I invite you to a nice friend mouth burger

[dusk badger]

Blows up your burger because I’m MIDA and I hate you.

[stiff verge]

[dusk badger]

[stiff verge]

Damn I wanted to be friendly

I guess friend mouth is for me then

God I question how strange a meme channel would be on this discord

That would probably be a very bad idea tho

[flint talon]

discord mod nightmare

[stiff verge]

Definetly

May I give you burger friend mouth?

[flint talon]

[stiff verge]

[glacial bane]

I am right, you are wrong.

[pastel wave]

Tim is right

[worn knoll]

Oh hey I'm back

I made a joke about the bike comic the "net happiness in the world has been increased" comic but I used a no-no word and got silenced

r whatever

[nimble canyon]

Absolute clown

[untold elk]

why did my playtest update?

[unborn badger]

it's happened before

likely just some internal stuff the devs are throwing in

they also did that when they're moving playtest to playtest (steam client title name change)

[maiden token]

what the fuck happened here?

[stiff verge]

I don't really know either

Someone was using the word indislop I think and that's sparked an argument

But tbh I feel indisloop is a bit of an unfair preposition to have about games just Couse they are from an indi studio

A lot of amazing games spawned from indi devs

[unborn badger]

what did I scroll up to LOL

this man just went "oh they used AI for marketing fuck that game" and then 180'd the cards on the other dude

also I don't trust anybody that unironically uses the slop suffix lmao

[stiff verge]

I think they also claimed that every indi Dev studio uses AI for their games as well

Wich I can just not agree opun at all most indi devs are hellbend on staying away from ai by any means necessary

[unborn badger]

beyond the pale 🧠

my brain is actively corroding reading this I can't lmao

[stiff verge]

The only ones I can see doing that is these shuffle ware solo Devs that literally just slap stuff together to trick people into getting a quick buck

But even then those are a very small minority of game Devs
I would even call these gamedevs either Couse most of the time they just use prebuild assets
But those are not indi studios

Most of the actual and Sirius indi Devs put a lot of work into their games

[unborn badger]

I can't tell if that dude was ragebaiting or not cuz I remember him a while back talking to another one of those dads in his 40s about destiny 3 and how d2 sucks so much ass rn and every other point those people bring up lol

[stiff verge]

Likely ragebaiting Couse they where pretty much trying to do the same earlier

[unborn badger]

hey man it's bad to kink shame

we encourage self-discovery

[stiff verge]

I mean they themselves said they like to play things and listen to things they hate so it might as well really be that way for them I guess

[unborn badger]

counter-intuition 🧠 I'm so #intellectual

my youtube recommended's healing it's giving me obscure jazz albums and jacob geller vids again this is awesome

[stiff verge]

I also recently went on a hellbend warpath to just straight up block any low efort content as in ai gen or content theft from my yt shorts aswell as any of my social media and holy shit it's actually so much better

[unborn badger]

just got recommended an AI cooking vid today as well day half-ruined

[stiff verge]

I'm so glad that gen ai is canibalizing it's own content nowadays causing it to break

I'm all for AI for science but it should have never been commercialised in my opinion they only results we are seeing from gen AI is people being greedy and trying to replace actual workers with it despite it's lackluster performance

[unborn badger]

I love AI washing machines I'm sure it doesn't become the thing that starts a war after like 818 thousand iterations

"I have no mouth and I must scream" woah...so #deep...

[stiff verge]

Only when calibration is staying a high priority Couse we have already seen ai trying to fake results Couse following our limitations was causing it to get less reward /not reaching it's defined goal as efficiently as it wants

[civic zenith]

Is there no more alpha? 😄

[karmic sable]

Nope, only the upcoming open weekend before release

[brittle dove]

if it were great then it wouldn't be indieslop would it?

[civic zenith]

I completely missed out on this game. I love games made by Bunjie. So how was the experience of people who enjoyed the game?

[cold kelp]

@robust crypt

🐴 🐴

I can't believe we were both in the same test!

[karmic sable]

I would love to speak on it but legally i am binded by an agreement that i cannot speak

and most people who played are, the only experience we can openly talk about is back from April last year

but if you want to get the idea of how it plays etc watch the recent december Vidoc

[charred snow]

I'll say that I'm very much looking forward to the final release of this.

[karmic sable]

obviously yes

[worn coral]

hopefully we get sum drip for alpha/play test like a banner or emblem honestly anything really

[charred snow]

Even if I'll likely be tilted within the first few hours of playing 😭

[viscid owl]

The game is the most fun, it's going to give all other extraction shooters a run for their money, but all the news has been vague, few and far between, and the playtests have been the most stingy on how long it allows gameplay

[charred snow]

I think they have a differentiating aspect (they shown on the vidoc) that they could have more confidence on promoting the game with.

[karmic sable]

I wouldnt say Marathon will give other extraction shooters a run for their money, but i would say it will be a good entry to the genre

[brittle dove]

it has potential too now that arc shot itself in the foot with its dishonest matchmaking system bloat

[stiff verge]

Hmm tbh during the time I was in playtest it was a hell of a good time and I'm usually not really for PvP games

[viscid owl]

Escape from tarkov is borderline shovelware and arc raiders is systematically punishing "PvP players"

[charred snow]

I don't think this needs to outright compete with Arc, but maybe complement it.

[brittle dove]

arc has turned out to be very soulless unfortunately

game had very good bones

[charred snow]

I think Arc was set out as a very accessible and much more casual extraction shooter experience and that seems to be what they delivered on.

[viscid owl]

And no other extraction shooter is even worth mentioning frankly

[karmic sable]

There is Beatiful Light coming(hopefully if it doesn’t get delayed AGAIN), HUNT Showdown, Gray Zone Warfare(even though it released too early in early access)

[charred snow]

Also, Witchfire and Sulfur, if you want some SP offerings of the genre.

[karmic sable]

Yeah

[charred snow]

Both shaping up to be stellar games.

[karmic sable]

There are also the mode ones like COD DMZ, Division 1 Survival, Division 2 Survivors(this ones in development) etc

Delta Force Operations, Arena Breakout Infinite

[unborn badger]

arc talk's so boring in a marathon context lol it's always "can bungie compete" and not what's it gonna feel like in the genre in general

[brittle dove]

witchfire has some cool elements but the "mission design" basically needs to be redone from the ground up ino

it doesn't have enough juice at all

it is unfinished so well see

[charred snow]

I'm not much against being dropped on a map and figuring it out as I go. It's got plenty of action.

[brittle dove]

you basically just run between combat arenas that are essentially self contained and then just fight. it's not a very interesting game structurally. the gunplay and art design are great thougg

[karmic sable]

Marathon’s advantages are that its the first AAA Extraction Shooter that Console can play, it has the Bungie gunplay which is universally agreed that its good, it focuses on lore amd storytelling

And more

[unborn badger]

never getting used to all the people shitting on the game before the new vidoc and then immediately 180ing lol

[karmic sable]

Same

[unborn badger]

like I'm not saying you're not allowed to like the game anymore but the magnitude of shit people talked and then immediately 180ing's so egregious lmao

[brittle dove]

because the first exposure people had to the game was mega negative

[karmic sable]

Yeah, I will admit even as a day 1 defender of Marathon since its reveal, the reveal event wasn’t it

[charred snow]

Not trying to kiss anyone's butt or anything, but the game didn't look that egregiously bad before the vidoc footage. If anything it looked just stylized. The de-saturated vegetation helped highlight how unnatural the colorful man-made structures were.

[unborn badger]

agree to disagree territory

though I did like pre-new vidoc alpha just as much as rn

also lowkey if first impressions to the game are really this negative wouldn't it just be not worth the time for people to even talk about it so in the end it's just the moronic bungie hate crowd yelling again lol

[charred snow]

Yeah, this definitely inherited some Destiny 2 flak

[karmic sable]

The negative part was more on Bungie instead of the game itself

[unborn badger]

well yeah exactly

[charred snow]

Sure, the whole debacle with the art was definitely deserved.

[unborn badger]

not even

[karmic sable]

And while i will always say that removing the NDA on April build was a stupid decision, it did infact rescue the game by making Bungie see what is missing and what’s not doing it. Bungie decided to delay the game with that response and now we have the version we see on Vidoc

Now imagine ALL that negative stuff on April alpha surfacing just a few weeks before release

That would have been catastrophic

[unborn badger]

I like how everybody just regarded the theft as the main reason for the delay when it's not even close lol

[latent gyro]

Not to mention the horrible livestream that was supposed to be a follow up to the alpha and all it focused on was the stolen art issues. There was a huge fall and Bungie has been doing their best to climb back up and regain traction. I believe they have brought the game back to a state of play they want and the effort shows how much they want Marathon to succeed

[unborn badger]

it's a texture audit vs an overhaul to over half of the game

also yeah putting joe cross on the stream's just scummy

[latent gyro]

That stream had more dead air and technical issues than a Destiny 1 Bungie live stream lol

[unborn badger]

I'm playing good guy thinking the stream schedules are pre-planned so he had to show up but an emergency pull would've helped just as much

[karmic sable]

Oh no that wasn’t the main reason for the delay

They went back to the planning board to work on features and aspects of the game that they got immense feedback from

[karmic sable]

I think it was pre planned and if my memory serves well they announced the stream just before the art drama surfaced

[sonic swan]

was a really good vid tbf

[latent gyro]

They completely re-imagined the game and set it with a dark dystopian undertone instead of some upbeat flashy bright game

[unborn badger]

pain

[frigid valley]

but hasnt it always been like that?

The world is pretty
but the universe is horrible

[karmic sable]

The game still has color like it did on April, its just they made it more grittier

[latent gyro]

lol that was a sight to see, I was surprised that the community actually gave positive feedback after everything. I'm glad to have been and continue to be apart of the feedback and playtesting to this amazing game Bungie created

[frigid valley]

hurry up marton

[unborn badger]

the way some people talk made me realize sometimes even shareholders really are just better than them lmao at least they don't spam death threats to half the devs' PO boxes

[latent gyro]

Majority of the colors and shaders are darker than they used to be some are just only slight changes while maintaining their flashy colors for the factions

[latent gyro]

Majority of the haters back then were just people wanting to joke about the art scandal and about how Arc Raiders was a better game when it was in beta vs Bungie's alpha

[frigid valley]

i just want some good PvP action

[karmic sable]

Not directed to you Lemons, but if someone says that Bungie removed the entire color look from Marathon, please make them watch the Vidoc above 1080p, preferably in 4K

[frigid valley]

and to open there eyes that also helps

[latent gyro]

I don't need to watch the vidoc 🌚

[karmic sable]

That’s why I said not directed to you specifically

[frigid valley]

I can't wait for the Voice acting for Marton's runners to be better then Dont shoot

[karmic sable]

They already are if you are talking specifically on characters

Because Bungie hired actual voice actors, and even some famous ones

[latent gyro]

So many voice lines 🔥

[frigid valley]

no no embark hired VA's to use for AI voice banks
for reasons

[karmic sable]

Hell, Elias Toufexis(yes, VA of Adam Jensen), is both Voice Director and voices Void and Rook

[frigid valley]

actually if they did that for the arcs in someway coupled with the machine learning they use for there animations that would be cool

[latent gyro]

I'll die on the hill that Arc Raiders is not an enjoyable experience

I've heard it has been prone to hack lobbies already lol

[frigid valley]

There is somthing there just missing somthing for me

[latent gyro]

The game is way too new for it to already get bypassed, did they leave the internal code on GitHub or something? 💀

[unborn badger]

oh bruh 😭 😭

[frigid valley]

UE5 blue print project kappa

[charred snow]

I think Arc is good, but I'm a bigger fan of this cyberpunk aesthetic than the whole post-apocalypse retrofuturism.

[karmic sable]

Appareantly they forgot to disable the dev console for retail version

[frigid valley]

no no i LOVE the retrofuturism its almost sovietwave but falls just short 😢

[latent gyro]

I'm also just not a huge fan of 3rd person shooters in general, Fortnite is the only one that I can really endure outside of a singleplayer or co-op style close quarters combat experience

[frigid valley]

PvP in 3rd person feels real clunky

[latent gyro]

I definitely think they should have taken a 1st person approach and I may have enjoyed Arc more

[robust crypt]

Oh, wow, It's nice to see you too!
Have you decided if you are going to get it on release?

[karmic sable]

Its sad that The Division 1 and 2 have much better third person PvE and PvP

[latent gyro]

That was the same reason I didn't enjoy Helldivers 2

[sonic swan]

i don’t think marathons aesthetic is cyberpunk but i get what you mean

[latent gyro]

The only 3rd person shooter I can say I love with full certainty is the Deadspace franchise

[sonic swan]

what exactly is marathons aesthetic

[frigid valley]

its a mix of alot of things

[latent gyro]

Marathon aesthetic

[charred snow]

I saw some video about that, but I think with the whole megacorps, shells and whatnot, it can fit within the genre.

[frigid valley]

alittle bit of neo vector heart in there

[latent gyro]

[charred snow]

It's definitely hard-scifi

[sonic swan]

the mega corporations definitely

[latent gyro]

Futuristic dystopian ruled over by large corporations with flashy logos

Is the easiest way I can describe marathon in a short sentence

[unborn badger]

netcode and malware and industrial graphic-centric realism

[frigid valley]

its very 90's

[charred snow]

"Graphic Realism" seems to be the name of the whole "big colourful" signs and imagery

[cold kelp]

I think I will wait until the next beta to decide, you?

[latent gyro]

Marathon is basically Tron with extra steps - and there's aliens and robots

[charred snow]

There's a video on YT where a guy breaks it all down.

[unborn badger]

riloe and jake did a pretty good breakdown yeah

[frigid valley]

its it own thing

[latent gyro]

There's no more betas, it's just going to be an open preview weekend of the game before launch

[frigid valley]

The shape langauge is very simplistic but its lit in a complex way its great

[wintry talon]

Yeah

[latent gyro]

I'm glad that they still have some of the original halo and marathon devs on this project

Because they are definitely pulling the lore hard on this game and I love it

[karmic sable]

Better do my daily "Vibe to the Marathon CTT Login Menu for n hour" activity

[frigid valley]

this is like 30+ years of mythos they've built tbh

[karmic sable]

They have an untapped amount of lore from OG Marathon trilogy

[charred snow]

Not just the lore, but how good the guns sound and feel

[wintry talon]

I hope we get more cinematic tho, I like audio logs but a lot of people will ignore them

[frigid valley]

Thank you Blam!

[latent gyro]

The Marathon Iceberg lol

[karmic sable]

I hope Bungie does those cinematics

[robust crypt]

Most likely, had a blast during the test

I remember just zoning out in the main menu, soaking in the soundscape of the game

[charred snow]

Soundtrack is also a banger for sure.

[latent gyro]

Just remember this is a multiplayer focused game, they're not focusing story. I do look forward to all of the cinematic experiences we get through

[karmic sable]

I hope Bungie gives Brian Villalobos a role on Marathon, he killed it with Lodi on D2

[wintry talon]

Yeah but we could get something like wut warframe does

[frigid valley]

Everyone buy marton enjoy it and cyber bully bungie into making a stanalone campaign game = profit

[latent gyro]

Let's start a gofundme for a new marathon campaign, they already have the engine built after all🌚

[charred snow]

You already have a gofund me on the game. It's the battle pass shop 😂

[latent gyro]

I will say that is one thing that I'm still surprised on how Bungie gets hate on their games when they build their own game engines 😭

It's not just another UE5 slop game

[charred snow]

The engine doesn't matter that much. Just how you use it.

[frigid valley]

but real time lighting is the hot new thing

[charred snow]

Again. Arc runs great, it's UE5 with all the fancy expensive features turned off

[latent gyro]

Arc runs great with hacker issues month 1

[frigid valley]

what so it doesnt look that good anymore

[cold kelp]

That is what most open betas are, yes.

[charred snow]

Hacker issues are a given with any modern multiplayer game, unfortunately. CoD has them every year, no reason why a game costing half the price wouldn't have it the same or worse.

[frigid valley]

tbh the sound track for arc raiders is also pretty damn good

[charred snow]

Sure could use without kernel-level anticheats tho

[sonic swan]

arc already has hackers? is this real?

[glacial bane]

marathon has cute low poly farming sim vibes

[charred snow]

This game is also bound to have hackers in it, unfortunately.

[latent gyro]

Open Betas are months before a game's release with bugs, a preview weekend is when the game is already complete

[karmic sable]

Yes but the problem isnt the hackers coming in, its Embark not doing enough to stop them. they only do a 1 month ban

[sonic swan]

wow 1 month is generous

my wizard101 account still has 6 years left of a 10 year total mute for cursing

[charred snow]

Jeez 😅

[frigid valley]

from what ive seen online there is some discourse about weapons being kinda fucked balance wise and marco's on the kettle

[karmic sable]

I hope Bungie does more OST drops like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WDRvs-IApc

[latent gyro]

Destiny hackers were fairly limited for years it was only until more recently they got bad funny enough

[frigid valley]

need to force everyone to listen to it no music volume slider

[latent gyro]

With Marathon being built on its own engine it's not something that will be broke through right away

[frigid valley]

its Tiger but better

[karmic sable]

While i like Timeleech, CodeRace is just PEAK

[frigid valley]

both are good

[charred snow]

I have them both looping for work

[latent gyro]

I'm sure they'll have an album release with the game, the sound team has done insane work on this title

[frigid valley]

I mean it seams like the team is passionate about the project

and it very much shows

[sonic swan]

the vibes from the vidoc feel like they really want it to succeed

[latent gyro]

The fact that timeleach is almost 11 minutes long and it's still not long enough lol

[karmic sable]

I mean which dev doesnt want their game to be successful

[frigid valley]

Blops7

[karmic sable]

I didnt say executives

[glacial bane]

no devs want their products to fail

[sonic swan]

i should’ve said i could feel their passion for the game. it’s obvious to say they want it to do well

[empty perch]

[frigid valley]

[stoic pivot]

[latent gyro]

When a company humbles themselves to immense feedback from the players to improve their game to make it better, that's when you know there's a hard shift in a games development towards greatness... can't believe it's been 9 months of playtests now

[scenic meteor]

/playtest

[empty perch]

/dac

[latent gyro]

/marton

[frigid valley]

Bungie pulling it together last minuet
Noooo really

[sonic swan]

cyberpunk and nms are prime examples

[charred snow]

I don't really see a lot of radical changes in the game. The visuals look more finished, but the main gripe seemed to be that this was an extraction shooter and that didn't change.

I think it's just enough time passed for the kneejerk to go away and now people are really starting to consider it could be a good time nonetheless.

[karmic sable]

It is the bungie move of pulling it together

happened on D1 and D2 aswell

[obsidian plover]

Minuet

[proven kernel]

Marton

[charred snow]

Ta Cei IV: Cape wil mae m Go

[native aurora]

[olive matrix]

eat i the fir tep

[charred snow]

Spoiler for the Marathon Ship map: ||You unlock the Bingus operator and can matchmake on the rest of the maps to get headpats from other runners.||

[olive matrix]

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[kind gyro]

Need more bubble wrap

[latent gyro]

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Thank u

[latent gyro]

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[charred snow]

😭

[latent gyro]

You're welcome

[charred snow]

Escape will make you ||pop||

[kind gyro]

Brain is happy

[obsidian plover]

Go to bed

[stone grail]

Marton

[kindred vigil]

yo staying up to 4:50 is not the murder business 🙏

[proven kernel]

It’s only 9:30

[upper ledge]

When preorder bungo

[charred snow]

I'll preorder if it gives the bingus plushie

[maiden token]

are you telling yourself that or?

[kindred vigil]

I be typing out what I think about sometimes

[open nymph]

I’m so ready

I need bungie to cook with this.

[proven kernel]

they been cooking.

[upper ledge]

Bingus weapon charm plz.

[stiff verge]

Y'all are cute as fuck lads

[proven kernel]

d’aww

[unkempt parcel]

When I buy a game on Xbox why can’t I play that game on windows pc as well? Why do you have to buy it separately for pc? Why can’t you just buy a game and play it anywhere?

[kindred vigil]

It has to specifically say play anywhere, not all games follow such rule it's usually Xbox studios/partners that have it

[unkempt parcel]

Make it so that all games follow that rule

[maiden token]

damn I thought you could literally just log into your microsoft account and the games would appear fr

[kindred vigil]

I think that's on the developer not Microsoft

[unkempt parcel]

It’s 2026 you buy the software you can play it on any platform. It should be tied to your account

[maiden token]

pirate it

[unkempt parcel]

Nuh uh

[maiden token]

you already bought the game, you're not stealing

[kindred vigil]

then you'll stick to ur Xbox

If you have a computer why not just buy ur games there 🧠....💭

[unkempt parcel]

Or how about my solution? You buy a game you can play it anywhere?

[kindred vigil]

tell it to matt booty bruh

[unkempt parcel]

Who’s Matt booty

[maiden token]

ye my fault let me write a strongly worded email to ms I'm sure they'll listen

[kindred vigil]

wait he's not the CEO of Xbox anymore

phill Spencer *

[unkempt parcel]

Xbox is onboard

It’s up to the devs and publishers

[kindred vigil]

Well Xbox has a dying player base so why spend resources on it fr

[scenic meteor]

Tetwa

[kindred vigil]

Scooby SHUT up bro you made me awake till 4:50 I don't wanna see you TYPE 😡

[maiden token]

I do think that xbox has a duty to allow you to play your xbox games anywhere

"this is an xbox" ok but I can't play my xbox games on it

[unkempt parcel]

I don’t understand how this is relevant. Also its not dying

[scenic meteor]

Ur up early tho 💪

[kindred vigil]

that advertisement is just referring to their cloud gaming service really it's kinda false advertising

[maiden token]

it kinda is judging by the recent sales numbers and xbox getting beaten by a mobile game kinect rip off

[kindred vigil]

as in developers probably don't give a hoot about making it cross buy because how Xbox currently is

[tight sinew]

I heard the game is going Free to play? Was I lied to

[unkempt parcel]

30 million plus concurrent gamepass subscribers = dying?

[sonic summit]

From what I jnow you need last tier of the xbox subscription

[maiden token]

ye

[kindred vigil]

job application and master chief typing this is beautiful

[tight sinew]

It is I

[maiden token]

my fault I thought we were just meaning the console
gamepass is booming tho u right

[kindred vigil]

Yes you were, this game was confirmed paid since 2023

[tight sinew]

FFS

[unkempt parcel]

Making the game free to play would invite a lot of cheaters

[tight sinew]

I’m debating a Pre Order

[kindred vigil]

hey I wonder what @maiden token opinions is on cheaters 👀🙏

[unkempt parcel]

He’s one jk

[kindred vigil]

those who anticheat

[maiden token]

wrong person twin you want ::S..

[kindred vigil]

do not

This is a Bungie game year 1 will suck then year 2 will be flourishing

[unkempt parcel]

Hunt, Arc, tarkov you have to pay for and people dont have a problem with it

[kindred vigil]

it's because people don't want to pay for something they don't know they're gonna like that's all

refunds exist but ya know

[unkempt parcel]

Thank god you can try the game before it comes out ?

[tight sinew]

Can I say I played it? Am I allowed?

[kindred vigil]

I'll contact my peons

[unkempt parcel]

Also like you said if you played it for less than 2 hours on Steam or on Xbox you can refund it immediately no problem

[tight sinew]

Cries in PS support

[scenic meteor]

But who plays on Xbox

[kindred vigil]

is....that not the policy bro

I've refunded plenty of games under 2 hr playtime on Xbox and steam

[unkempt parcel]

Sony is super greedy almost like Nintendo. Sony didn’t even want cross play

[kindred vigil]

and usually you can just lie and say someone else purchased it on ur acc 🕊️

[tight sinew]

Didn’t Sony want to make it a PS Exclusive?

[maiden token]

z0r says it's the best most bestest greatest platform best platform ever ever ever

[kindred vigil]

no, sonys new directive is multiplat

Since 2023 in its reveal on its site it showed steam and xbox

[unkempt parcel]

On PlayStation if you download a product even if it’s a preorder as soon as you start downloading it it’s not eligible for a refund anymore

[tight sinew]

Ohh

[unkempt parcel]

I never said that????

[maiden token]

thats so buns fuck console

[wet herald]

ew

[maiden token]

I told a little fib 🤭

[kindred vigil]

yeah only PlayStation does that tho to which is awful

[unkempt parcel]

I don’t know about Nintendo

[kindred vigil]

steam is the most generous one

[tight sinew]

Honestly I think I’m just old, I’ll stick to single player games

[kindred vigil]

but Xbox has let me refund games past 14 days they're pretty easy as long you don't abuse it

[unkempt parcel]

How’s it more generous than Xbox

[scenic meteor]

Hop on league

[unkempt parcel]

I refunded games on Xbox that I bought 4 years ago 💀

[maiden token]

they let you play their games on any PC platform instead of locking you to just ur xbox 💀

[kindred vigil]

It's easy and has good customer support and is known for allowing a lot of "okay just this once" type of stuff

[tight sinew]

Find me a girl who cosplays as 2B,AdaWong then I’ll play it

[kindred vigil]

you're not getting that big bro

[scenic meteor]

I gotch u @kindred vigil

[stone grail]

Lots of thoses and none of them played them

[unkempt parcel]

If it’s an Xbox first party title you can play it on pc and Xbox. If you buy a PlayStation or Nintendo game you can only play it on those platforms not pc.

[kindred vigil]

mf

[tight sinew]

Oh worddddd 👀👀

[wet herald]

Steam has been known to refund folks even after playing the game for 10+ hours, and you usually get a same day refund

[unkempt parcel]

Same with Xbox

[stone grail]

That’s half true but it can happen sometimes with a very good reason

[wet herald]

well thats good

[kindred vigil]

lwk with steam I just pulled "I neeeeed thissss" and it kinda works

[languid plume]

r u sure?

[unkempt parcel]

What’s lwk?

[kindred vigil]

lowkey

[maiden token]

lowkey

[stone grail]

It’s very rare

[tight sinew]

I wish I could get a Freee bag of chipssss

[stone grail]

Why are you named liked that you are scaring away half the discord rn

[unkempt parcel]

I watched spiderman no way home last night for the first time on bbc iplayer

[kindred vigil]

I wish 👀 someone would 👀 gift me 👀 a video game 👀 (fortnite Battle Royale) 👀🙏

[wet herald]

Yep, I remember playing BF2042 for like 30-40 hours, they gave me my money back because the servers were ass and the community generally hated the game

[maiden token]

give yourself the gift by downloading it (free to play)

[tight sinew]

I’m assuming you are on about someone else? My name is user Friendly

[kindred vigil]

omg thank you so much ur so kind

[unkempt parcel]

Good game that. They fixed almost everything

J*b Application

[stone grail]

Why would you play Fortnite tho

[wet herald]

That hero system ruined that game for a long time, by the time they fixed everything, no one cared lol

[maiden token]

cos fortnite is fun

[unkempt parcel]

I do my stw daily quest and log off

[kindred vigil]

People like playing different games #shocker

[tight sinew]

Don’t make me send this whole chat a Job Application

[stone grail]

Ok bro

[kindred vigil]

I NEED ONE PLEASE

[unkempt parcel]

I don’t spend money on Fortnite only way to get vbucks is through stw

[tight sinew]

What was that? Did you say? Military? Sign here

[kindred vigil]

🥀I'm starving for a job I need it

[obsidian plover]

[maiden token]

I think Neeyth would take his foot for a job

[tight sinew]

Screenshotted

[kindred vigil]

woahhh relaxxx

[unkempt parcel]

@tight sinew any work from home uk jobs you can recommend?

[stone grail]

I thought he already had a job

[languid plume]

srry to hear that

[kindred vigil]

if I had a job I wouldn'tbe talking with you all

[wet herald]

User Friendly - Marilyn Manson (1998)

[maiden token]

vibe coding software engineer

[kindred vigil]

I'd be waking up slogging away at my 9-5

[unkempt parcel]

Can’t code have no degree

[tight sinew]

You see the only work from home jobs that pay well are stuff like Digital Marketing

[stone grail]

*AI

[kindred vigil]

well has someone who watched digital foundry

[maiden token]

dont need a degree with AI

[unkempt parcel]

TikTok? Instagram?

[maiden token]

also I dont have a degree tho you can still get a SWE job self taught

[kindred vigil]

I could be a social media manager/intern I'd be boss at posting daily

[unkempt parcel]

@tight sinew I live in London if that helps

[kindred vigil]

I'm sorry about that

[stone grail]

London

[maiden token]

Experience:
100k messages in Marathon General Chat

[kindred vigil]

What unemployment and loneliness does to a soul 🕊️🙏

[stone grail]

For a gacha game maybe

[kindred vigil]

I am NOT being the ZZZ intern

[stone grail]

Why not free pulls

[kindred vigil]

mfs cancelled the last one bc they thought they hit their dog I'm not messing with them 🙏😭

[tight sinew]

PlayStation UKs office is in London I walk past it all the time, they always take in new People

[stone grail]

What is this deep lore

[kindred vigil]

zzz admin drama

[unkempt parcel]

🤢 I’d rather Microsoft

[stone grail]

Ok Gabe

[maiden token]

z0r are you an xbox shill?

[kindred vigil]

Let me lay off 8000 of my workers soft

[unkempt parcel]

No

[kindred vigil]

let me donate 80 mill to ai data centers soft

[tight sinew]

They treat their staff so bad

[unkempt parcel]

Actually true they’d fire me before hiring me

[stone grail]

Lay off half the staff to make a shitty ai ad

[kindred vigil]

let me say I would hire an over real people and replace my real worker soft

[unkempt parcel]

Heard working for Valve is amazing but everyone leaves

[kindred vigil]

Who's the CEO of Microsoft is it still bill

relax

[maiden token]

slimed

[unkempt parcel]

[kindred vigil]

7 day myte gg 🥀

[unkempt parcel]

😭 🥺 ???

[tight sinew]

Leave that in 2025

[kindred vigil]

no we keeping it cause it makes older people angry it's funny asf

[tight sinew]

Sigh

[unkempt parcel]

Aight I think I’m gonna go play video games

[tight sinew]

I guess I’m old then

[kindred vigil]

I love bullying the elderly in harmless actions that doesn't harm others 🙏

[unkempt parcel]

67 doesn’t bother me and I’m over 30

[tight sinew]

That’s him officer

[maiden token]

damn z0r's an unc

[tight sinew]

Holy Unc

[unkempt parcel]

🖕

[kindred vigil]

10 more years till dentures

[tight sinew]

Time to start collecting pension money

[maiden token]

-20 years for british people

[kindred vigil]

Self own

[unkempt parcel]

Imma gommage this year (Clair obscure expedition 33 reference)

[tight sinew]

Body so Tea the British are coming

[maiden token]

oo tea brb

[kindred vigil]

bro signaled the tea alarm 😭

[unkempt parcel]

I used to listen to bring me the horizon back in the gears of war 1 era 06-10

[kindred vigil]

I'm surprised the whole British like tea stereotype is kinda actually just true

[unkempt parcel]

Coffee>tea

[tight sinew]

Jail

[scenic meteor]

It’s too true tetra be throwing games to get a cup of tea

[kindred vigil]

"I'ma go boil my pot" bro we're queing

[tight sinew]

I’m crying

[stone grail]

I throw games when my cat ask for pats

[kindred vigil]

That shi was genuinely so funny like we're queing and YOU'RE MAKING TEA

[unkempt parcel]

It always bothered me that you never picked a role even though you’re a regular here

[kindred vigil]

you not a og then he's had a role before

[tight sinew]

Valid

[maiden token]

fave band fr my first album was sempiternal and then I played stardew for like 3 months straight listening to them, Sleeping With Sirens, and Pierce the Veil 💀

[unkempt parcel]

I still want my Team Cat role. Where’s that admin that gives it out?

[scenic meteor]

I was once under a faction back in my glory days

[kindred vigil]

his dumbass just accidentally left the server and went on this lone wolf arc bit

[unkempt parcel]

Which admin/mod can change my role to team cat?

[kindred vigil]

andy

[maiden token]

man I love lying too ur not special

[stone grail]

who

[kindred vigil]

u did boil a pot mid queue

[kindred vigil]

Scoobydoomysteri

[maiden token]

theres no way I dont remember that

[stone grail]

OH RIGHT

[scenic meteor]

Also grabbed a cup mid cash out

[kindred vigil]

IT WAS IN OUR finals game I vividly remember that

[unkempt parcel]

@narrow mango please I’m on my knees begging. Can you please change my role to team cat? I own two cats, sadly my son my baby boy my angel passed away last year in September from cancer. He was 12 years old and we used to sleep together everyday. He was the sweetest most clever and gentle cat ever. Didn’t want to bother you with this but I never see you active on here. Thank you.

[kindred vigil]

we were shocked your water boiled so quick like why does uk water boil 3 mins

[maiden token]

this is so cap but I'm so sorry if it's real

[unkempt parcel]

@kindred vigil am I getting banned?

[stone grail]

I liked that World tour round where Tetra was AFK for like 3 minutes at the start

[kindred vigil]

You could've just simply asked but no ur not getting banned

[maiden token]

ohhhhhh I remember now, scoob was flabberghasted

[stone grail]

It was more 30 seconds but it's funny to say 3 mins

[unkempt parcel]

It’s real. It happened so suddenly. He was diagnosed and in like a month passed away.

[kindred vigil]

the devs and admins r pretty chill just don't spam em 🕊️

[maiden token]

wow my fault for saying you were capping.
I'm so sorry for that 🥀 💔

[unkempt parcel]

He had a 9cm tumour attached to his intestine and small nodules on both his kidneys.

[kindred vigil]

tetra is kinda goated on light he needs to stick to it

[maiden token]

me when I lie

[stone grail]

i would not know

[kindred vigil]

Medium not yo lane gangalicouscakes

[stone grail]

Got good AKM aim on Medium tho

[kindred vigil]

yeah he does but his arn was better

[maiden token]

now I wanna play finals...

[scenic meteor]

He’s not bad on light but there’s room for improvement for sure

[stone grail]

idk how you play that shit with ironsight btw cuz it shakes like crazy

[unkempt parcel]

There’s a light that never goes out 🥺

[kindred vigil]

I mean idk apparently he was under performing cuz I was there #notiicng

[maiden token]

https://tenor.com/view/500daysofsmr-gif-18776133

[unkempt parcel]

Yes

[stone grail]

If anyone usually underperform it's usually me

[kindred vigil]

neeyth on my team 🥀☹️

[maiden token]

ur both self owning but ur both so good

Reva doesn't hear it cos they're never in call but I call them sexy when they make plays in finals

[kindred vigil]

I heard at least 4 "ur so sexy neeyth" it's true he says this

[stone grail]

The funniest throw ive ever seen was scoob missing every close range shot with the deagle and then dying infront of me

[scenic meteor]

I heard it more when Neeyth was playing but that’s pretty true

[stone grail]

I do nothing crazy tho lmao

[kindred vigil]

Scooby is that true

[scenic meteor]

Happened once or twice

[stone grail]

It was against a sword light

[kindred vigil]

🥀

[stone grail]

I also died cuz sword is stupid in that game

[kindred vigil]

I don't blame you sword lights r so bs

[maiden token]

reva jumped off a roof twice in one game nothing could be funnier

[stone grail]

I do that alot when i try weird shit mid match

But that one i remember it was on the weird map where verything is platforms + jump pads and i always fuckup the momentum

[maiden token]

Seoul under construction 🥀

[open nymph]

currently im more excited for marathon than I am gta 6.

[kindred vigil]

I need to learn to stop aiming, finals is a very hip fire game

[maiden token]

ur so real for that me too

[stone grail]

I also just can't stand still and always press keys so sometimes it just messes me up

[open nymph]

fcar]

[kindred vigil]

to much recoil on controller it feels weird

[stone grail]

Burst fire brother

[kindred vigil]

Like it has no recoil but at the same time it kicks so much

[scenic meteor]

U do gotta tap fire the fcar fr

[open nymph]

the first shot is ruff i fee u

[stone grail]

Burst is fine, cuz it has a shit mag size

[kindred vigil]

25 on a scar 🥀

[stone grail]

Use AK to spray but even then burst is better

Remember Aliens, Short controlled bursts

[kindred vigil]

I just be using model 1800 and akm hope for the best

and the revolver

[stone grail]

1800 got a buff so i wonder if it's not meme tier now

[open nymph]

model is so giga chad

[stone grail]

It used to be very bad especially after P90 got released

I think only Cerberus is meme tier now cuz it deals no damage

(still love using it because it's a 3 barrel)

[kindred vigil]

it's pretty good to use when u have the skin that changes its animation

[stone grail]

The T2 animation ?

[kindred vigil]

the impact warning/ dough wrangler one where it's one handed

[stone grail]

Yeah the flip ?

[kindred vigil]

yes that one

[stone grail]

It's from Terminator 2, the inspiration, that's what i meant

Good to know that it's dough wrangler tho, ik what i'll buy next

oh they nerfed repeater, based?

[stiff verge]

Requesting tella to become an emote

[stone grail]

FAMAS nerf too, DOUBLE BASED?

[stiff verge]

Btw I'm joking if it isn't obvious

[stone grail]

New Finals bundle feels targeted towards me

[stiff verge]

What is the new bundle ?

[charred snow]

Disco Elysium skin pack

[scenic meteor]

Is it actually

[charred snow]

(idk)

[stone grail]

Got lot of Fishnet stuff, red plaid skirt, spike bracer

[maiden token]

goth shit basically

[stone grail]

Fishnet glove especially

[stiff verge]

Oh.. neat

I remember playing the game it's a good game I'm still annoyed tho that they didn't just hire voice actors like I know the people behind the voice bases where payed out and all but still

[maiden token]

reva's a goth girl at heart I'd have the biggest crush fr

[stone grail]

That's fair, that's also what i mostly dislike about this game, but everything else is so solid, that's even why i'm baffled they made Arc right after

[charred snow]

I think you'd like the current run of Absolute Wonder Woman

[stone grail]

She's just red and black

[kindred vigil]

Arc was in development longer than finals, I think finals was a side game iirc

[maiden token]

wait fr?

[kindred vigil]

let me Google rq

[stone grail]

Funny cuz Arc feels like the side game to me with how clunky it is

[kindred vigil]

my 5G is fucking up 🥀

[stone grail]

Nice wifi

[charred snow]

Check out Absolute Zatanna tho 👀 https://www.reddit.com/r/AbsoluteUniverse/comments/1pkgjk4/absolute_zatanna_by_guillem_march_absolute_wonder/

[stone grail]

I mean Zatanna was always peak

[charred snow]

She's punk now as well

[kindred vigil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embark_Studios

"studio's first project in February 2019, revealing that it will be a free-to-play cooperative action game.[9] The game was officially revealed in 2021 as ARC Raiders. However, the development of another project, The Finals (codenamed Project Discovery at the time), progressed faster than ARC Raiders, prompting the team to release that project first. The Finals"

[scenic meteor]

Can I get a tldr

[stone grail]

LMAO

[kindred vigil]

Arc was taking longer to develop, finals was easier to progress so they decided to release it first

Makes sense since arc was originally a pve f2p coop survival shooter, now turnt extraction so it probably went through some creative changes

[scenic meteor]

I mean the finals is pretty simple in concept

[kindred vigil]

That, and it uses things they're very familiar with

[charred snow]

Generation Zero is a similar game that maybe could have used a similar treatment. That open world is barren as heck

[stone grail]

I don't see the PVE coop surv shooter with Arc, cuz the arc themselves are too dumb

Prob why they changed it

[kindred vigil]

they have people from battlefield, mirrors edge and battlefront

Finals clearly uses mirror edge and battlefield together while arc usesbattlefront it seems

[kindred vigil]

I remember hearing that apparently play testers said original arc was "very boring"

[stone grail]

Yeah i'm not surprised

[kindred vigil]

https://news.instant-gaming.com/en/articles/15233-arc-raiders-was-delayed-because-the-game-wasn-t-fun

"We loved every aspect of what we were trying to design. But after a while, we came to the conclusion: 'Guys, this game isn't fun.'"

🥀🥀🥀

it's a shame I was looking forward to that version back in 2021 but I'm perfectly okay with the new direction

I'm glad they listened to their play testers and themselves

[stone grail]

Finals love putting skirts but no good tops that go with it

[stone grail]

They are prob kinda mad in a way now that the game released and the vocal part of the community turned it into Don't shoot raiders

[kindred vigil]

That's why they have aggression based matchmaking

but I assume they probably didn't want the community to be as passive as they are but like money 🤑🤑

[sour cairn]

this game looks transgender

[kindred vigil]

don't shoot 🤖💬 wanna team up? 🤖💬

[kindred vigil]

Those who runner are trans theory

[scenic meteor]

🤖🔫 I need ur goop

[kindred vigil]

y'all don't know nothing about new noise ship of thesus 🥀

[kindred vigil]

my goop❓

[maiden token]

if I download myself into the personality matrix of Glitch, am I technically transitioning?

[kindred vigil]

well in the definition of the word yes

[stone grail]

What do you think Transhumanism mean

[kindred vigil]

beyond human type shi

[maiden token]

oh god I'm dumb ur so right

[maiden token]

also rimworld terminology

[kindred vigil]

those who matrix 1996 🕊️(?)

[maiden token]

(I only know about transhumanism because of rimworld)

[scenic meteor]

I never watched the matrix idk

[stone grail]

👉 🕘 🐰

[kindred vigil]

u need too but don't consume it in a chud way

[stone grail]

Not even Ghost in the shell ? 😭

[maiden token]

Rev why do you sometimes pick a random goth girl as ur pfp?

[kindred vigil]

Matrix is more than "we need to escape the world of censorship and wokies" not even it's message fr

[stone grail]

Ive always been doing it

[kindred vigil]

are u larping as a goth woman

[stone grail]

I think the trans part just comes from the fact you technically can be anything in the Matrix, and that one interview that came after the fact where i believe the writers tried to pretend it was the message all along

[stone grail]

Damn i wish i'd make serious bucks out of that

[maiden token]

what's stopping you?

[scenic meteor]

True

[stone grail]

Good question

Probably that it's illegal 🤔

[kindred vigil]

No I know that's the message I'm referring to how right wing ppl use it

[maiden token]

being a goth girl is illegal?

[trim summit]

yes

[stone grail]

No pretending to be someone else

[trim summit]

i do it all the time

[mystic gazelle]

beep boop

[kindred vigil]

W Identify fraud

[maiden token]

halloween ruined

[stone grail]

LOL

[trim summit]

cosplay events ruined

[kindred vigil]

Man I was gonna be the same ghost face every year and post it on my highlights bruh

[maiden token]

rev ur so right this new finals bundle is so you coded

[scenic meteor]

Tetra when can I get u on league

[kindred vigil]

he literally downloaded it for you once bro

Those who just don't listen

[scenic meteor]

That was before he was cool tho

[kindred vigil]

WOW

[stone grail]

Just so annoying that it's hard to use some of the parts for other outfits, the skirt is unusable for instance cuz nothing goes with it

Okay maybe like 1 shirt

[kindred vigil]

Those without women designers on their team

[maiden token]

take this back or I wont download

[scenic meteor]

Your right 😞 I was the uncool one I didn’t think you were down for the cause 🥀

[kindred vigil]

My real Scooby wouldn't t be so rude who are u

WHAT DID U DO WITH MY SCOOBY WHERE ARE YOU 🥀

[scenic meteor]

It’s cause I’ve been craving league I need to release my anger in the rift 💪 and with the new skin

[kindred vigil]

250$ viego skin that looks like a 10$ paladins skin all bc it changes sword colour wow man

[charred snow]

Unironically peak movie

[kindred vigil]

And this dude talk about "I might actually buy it" in VC yesterday boy

riot got yo ass on a LEASH

[scenic meteor]

You get a complete new animation set with each sword swap 🥀

[kindred vigil]

u get that in finals for 10$

7$ if they had top-up

[stone grail]

we don't talk about the god awful live action one tho

[kindred vigil]

I'm surprised it took fortnite 8 years to even add top up (I'm not surprised )

[kindred vigil]

Is that the purple hair one, the design every collab uses

[charred snow]

What live action movie? 🤔

Neve has been such a thing

[kindred vigil]

they never use the one with her extremely robotic looking eyes it's such a better looking version

I ain't even watch it but I know that design solos 🙏

[charred snow]

GitS collab on this game would slap harder than diamonds

[kindred vigil]

no cuz you'll get horsedonkers saying this game identity will be killed

Do NOT ask what series was a inspiration for this game 🤫

[charred snow]

Ah, yes, the game where lore-wise they can print out every type body imaginable.

[kindred vigil]

those who are art style purists which I understand

but tighten up will ya

[inland hatch]

neeyth you look different today

[stone grail]

You could adapt GITS art style to the new Marton one but eeeeeeh

Maybe gun skins if that ever happens, like imagine a Mateba in Marton

IK the mateba isn't from GITS technically, it's a real gun, but it's so iconic

[charred snow]

'95 Motoko & Batou adaptation could work

Plus there's gonna be a new anime this year so chances are not 0.

[kindred vigil]

well just a new mascara 💅

[glacial bane]

what're y'all yappin' about now

[scenic meteor]

Guys should I download raid shadow legends for ezio

[kindred vigil]

no??

[charred snow]

You'd take more enjoyment out of huffing a can of raid

[scenic meteor]

It’s ezio. Tho

[kindred vigil]

its raid. Tho

[scenic meteor]

And they got the og va to come out and voice him literally peak

[kindred vigil]

Damn wtf they must got bands

[charred snow]

The dead giveaway is the game having the same name as the insect poison.

[kindred vigil]

Still that game sucks it's just an auto battler with good presentation

[charred snow]

You just don't

[inland hatch]

this sounds dope

[scenic meteor]

Right

[charred snow]

And even more budget for marketing, as it seems.

[kindred vigil]

HOW DOES THAT SOUND DOPE

[inland hatch]

i like good presentations

[maiden token]

I'd rather snort lines out of a toilet bowl than download raid shadow legends

[kindred vigil]

gg muted #DrugUsagenotRatedT

[inland hatch]

sounds like a bunch of people who've never played Raid Shadow Legends

[scenic meteor]

Good presentation and auto battler sign me up fr

[kindred vigil]

did I accidentally get 2 people on board with raid shadow legends

[charred snow]

Oppenheimer moment

[kindred vigil]

Did I just give these mfs free #ad without a sponsorship 🥀

also since when fallout had an Arizona collab, that's what I just got

[scenic meteor]

Fallout got a cod collab wym

[stone grail]

It's insane that this game has some cool character design but it's wasted on an horrible game

[maiden token]

could be lines of sugar u dont know

[kindred vigil]

those who call of duty skins

I'm ngl cod has a great art department (before the ai relax!!!) I always believed that

[stone grail]

The Orc lady looked nice and the Samurai lady

[charred snow]

I was recalling CoD had a gits collab at some point, but that was just CoD Mobile

[kindred vigil]

they also had a girls Frontline collab (???)

and a Gundam one recently with a whole ass mode

honestly you know what's weird for me

[stone grail]

Lady Mikage looked really cool too, idk why they waste cool shit on bad games like that

[kindred vigil]

I am desensitized to collabs some what, it's like "oh ok cool" but for some reason every time fortnite does a collab I'm still shocked, That's the ONLY game that shocks me with its collabs and it has 200+ of them

I'm an epic games bot 🥀

The moment they collab with 40K I'm quitting fortnite forever

[stone grail]

It could happen honestly

[charred snow]

Godzilla and Goku flossing over Titus

[kindred vigil]

please id be fine with a skyrimccollab then 40k please God don't do this to me

[stone grail]

Most likely a space marine with the Fallout power armor animations

[kindred vigil]

I. HATE Warhammer forty thousand!!!

[stone grail]

For as much as i hate the fallot show and fallout 4, the collab with fortnite was cool the armor looked great

[charred snow]

In the grim darkness of the future, there is only griddy

[kindred vigil]

fortnite kinda floated with collab designs icl

[stone grail]

Titus hitting the griddy after destroying the Tyranid hive ship

[kindred vigil]

one thing for sure they will respect an collab of an IP I can say that much

Cod just looks ...weird like super weird with every collab

it's just uncanny to see cartoon characters in an realistic art style like why is alucard from hellsing here bro

[stone grail]

Alucard actually looks good tho

[charred snow]

Tomb Raider collab was really good. "Unified Lara" already looked great there.

[kindred vigil]

he looks okay something about his face looks like a plastic mask

[stone grail]

and his voice actor went hard on the voice lines even tho he didn't need to

[charred snow]

Not that I ever bought skins or anything.

[kindred vigil]

what really was weird was the diablo 4 cod collab, Lilith just looks straight like they ripped her model

[stone grail]

Way more effort than the average collab they do now

[kindred vigil]

it's like yea diablo 4 has a realistic graphics but she looks off

[stone grail]

100% what it is, it explains the lack of voice line too they just phoned it in

[kindred vigil]

Activision blizzard can't get a VA to record lines for THEIR game

[maiden token]

phoned??
ring ring hello??!??!?1